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Speaker 2: You know, the second biggest fight is going to be

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Speaker 3: You know more about AI, which has me more worried,

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Speaker 5: So fast here now with AI, we have evidence now

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Speaker 6: We can create infinite universes. This is like the fuel

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Speaker 2: There's never been a technical project of this complexity, of

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Speaker 7: Two pasts, two futures teaching Sam to think or being

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Speaker 8: Wow, AI is really gonna you know, it's gonna it's

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Speaker 8: gonna scale to the moon.

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Speaker 9: Have you ever looked at the moon and wondered if

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Speaker 7: And tonight, ladies and gentlemen, I have to tell you

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Speaker 10: What will it take to collapse the distance between idea

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Speaker 4: This technology saved my voice to build machines that build

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Speaker 8: You know, this whole thing is going to reshape the economy.

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Speaker 8: there now. You know, these systems are different from ordinary software.

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Speaker 8: You don't write every line of code right building ordinary software,

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Speaker 4: The Moon's a screen.

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Speaker 11: Everything we've been looking at it's fake.

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Speaker 6: People love the Newsara, and I also think it is

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Speaker 6: add An I Elaheing Tetragrammaton I said, will mostly be great.

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Speaker 6: There will be some adjustment that society has to go through.

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Speaker 6: And just like with chat ChiPT we were like, the

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Speaker 1: There should be a prohibion against building this stuff at

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Speaker 4: This is the climate screen of a dying regien. Pray

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Speaker 4: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.

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Speaker 4: He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying

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Speaker 6: And where do people like that go to?

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Speaker 4: Share the big line, Mega media.

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Speaker 12: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 11: Here's your host, Stephen k.

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Speaker 4: Ban Thursday twenty three October. You're Arler, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Were absolutely packed this morning and this afternoon. Let's get

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Speaker 4: editor for all things transhumanism. Do we have a cut,

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Speaker 4: Let's do the cut. Do we have the cut from

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Speaker 4: Steffie Rule. Let's play that, and then we're going to

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Speaker 4: jump on what happened yesterday and where we go from here,

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Speaker 4: whether the quo vadis whither thou goest? Okay, let's hit it.

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Speaker 4: One hundred public figures signed a letter that they want

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Speaker 10: But is that really going to do anything?

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Speaker 13: I mean, two years ago.

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk signed a very similar letter that did nothing.

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Speaker 10: Of course he did not sign it today, but these

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Speaker 14: How are these three going to navigate the complaints coming

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Speaker 4: That's slightly confusing. I'll break it all down for you.

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Speaker 4: would say prominent people, but Meghan The Financial Times of London,

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Speaker 4: they will go for clickbait. It was Steve Bannon and

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Speaker 4: Meghan was it, markle Merkle Markel. I don't follow this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Was what was the warning shot you gave in your

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Speaker 15: There, Steve, You've got two main factions that are fighting

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Speaker 15: That includes AGI, that includes artificial super intelligence.

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Speaker 4: Why is that a problem? Why is that that's the

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Speaker 11: Well, on the other side.

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Speaker 13: Marco Rubio is in Israel this morning as the Trump

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump knew that and use that leverage.

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Speaker 4: Eric Cortellessa joins us. Eric an incredible interview, And I

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Speaker 4: might add, I guess, I guess did you or somebody

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Speaker 4: get the the the attention of the Time the Time

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Speaker 4: Time magazine editors. Because I compare the two covers. My

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Speaker 4: understanding is President Trump is loving this cover, not just

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Speaker 4: as a power shot, but over the top of it. Folks,

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Speaker 4: if you haven't gotten this week's Time Magazine, if you're

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Speaker 4: part of the word imposse in a big Trump fan,

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Speaker 4: which you know you are, you might want to go

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Speaker 4: out and buy a copy of that's because it's extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: You might want to frame it or get it's got

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Speaker 4: President Trump at the Resolute Desk in a power shot

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Speaker 4: with the flags and back of him, and then it's

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Speaker 4: got Trump World up at the top above time. I'm

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Speaker 4: my understanding is the President of the United States is

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Speaker 4: loving that compared to your one leg You did an

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Speaker 4: amazing story of the week before, right, but they had

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Speaker 4: somehow an editor picked a shot that President Trump wasn't

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Speaker 4: particularly fond of giving what his hair looked like.

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Speaker 7: That's right, he made his opinion known.

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Speaker 4: He's not shot. How did you get in to get

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Speaker 4: this interview? Because President Trump, you actually walk through the

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Speaker 4: entire thing and it's it's and for the Israel First crowd,

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Speaker 4: the televivil evends and these guys are lying and spinning.

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Speaker 4: It's right there in the president's own words, sir.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, we had been in talks about doing a story

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Speaker 7: like this before he went to Israel in Egypt to

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Speaker 7: announce the deal. And you know, basically it was a

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Speaker 7: pretty straightforward request. Conversations with with Trump and his key

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Speaker 7: envoys in the region on the issues, Jared Kushner and

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Speaker 7: Steve Witkoff, a kind of blow by blow of what

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Speaker 7: went down, and you know it was so fascinating talking

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Speaker 7: to both the President Trump and the people around him.

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Speaker 7: Was the way in which, over successive years he had

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Speaker 7: built up such leverage over nata ya Who because of

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Speaker 7: his popularity with Israeli public. You know, in the first term,

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Speaker 7: remember he recognized Jerusalem is Israel's capital, moved the embassy there,

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Speaker 7: He recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Goal on Heights, He

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Speaker 7: pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. He broker the

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Speaker 7: Abraham Accords that normalized relations between Israel and all these

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Speaker 7: Gulf Arab countries. In the second term, after he went

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Speaker 7: along with the Iran attacks striking the nuclear facilities, he

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Speaker 7: had such good standing among the Israelis where he could

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Speaker 7: really put the squeeze on nata Yaho because if he

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Speaker 7: turned against Nntayaho would face way more domestic peril than

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Speaker 7: he ever would if one of his predecessors had attacked him,

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Speaker 7: because it always looks strong to the Israeli right if

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Speaker 7: you're standing up to a democratic president exerting pressure on Israel.

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Speaker 4: So between his ability to put.

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Speaker 7: Neta Yahoo in that heart place and the relationships that

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Speaker 7: he had and Jared Kushner and Whitcoff had with these

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Speaker 7: Arab countries who could put the squeeze on Hamas he

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Speaker 7: was able to sort of capitalize on this moment and

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Speaker 7: get the ceasefire deal that returned all the Israeli hostages.

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Speaker 4: I think it was Henry Loose, the founder of Time magazine,

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Speaker 4: and I think it was Teddy White, Theodore White when

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Speaker 4: he got Theatre White. I think it was when he

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Speaker 4: was bringing him into the magazine that the phrase the

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Speaker 4: first cut of history, the first, the first, the first

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Speaker 4: draft of history. He wanted Loose wanted Time magazine to

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Speaker 4: be the first draft of history. I believe that's the story.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that you're following in the in the

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Speaker 4: in the lineage of Theodore White and what Henry Loose

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Speaker 4: because the magazine for years kind of lost his way,

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Speaker 4: but a blockbuster interview with the President United States about

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Speaker 4: the topic that took up so much of his attention

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Speaker 4: for so long. Do you feel like you're in the

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Speaker 4: lineage of the Theatre White and this is actually the

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Speaker 4: first cut of hit. People will refer to this and

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Speaker 4: use this as they write about this ddible time in history.

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Speaker 7: Well, I certainly hope so I mean that was the aim,

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Speaker 7: you know, the first draft of history, as we say,

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Speaker 7: and you know, look, these are direct accounts from Trump,

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Speaker 7: from American officials, from Israeli officials about what went down,

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Speaker 7: and there's just a sequence of events that all played

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Speaker 7: against each other.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: For instance, in February, Netanyahu and Trump agreed to give

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Speaker 7: Iran a sixty day window to try to negotiate a

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Speaker 7: framework for a nuclear deal. Iran didn't come to any

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Speaker 7: agreement within those sixty days. That is what Netagnah, who

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Speaker 7: exploited to then attack Iran. And it was a combination

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Speaker 7: of Trump believing that the Iranians were trying to play

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Speaker 7: him and not actually come to a deal and weigh

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Speaker 7: success the Israelis were having in this operation that he

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Speaker 7: joined in. But he was also, as you know, very

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Speaker 7: very reluctant to get America entangled in some sort of protracted,

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Speaker 7: sustained war, and he's he's avoided that. But I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, coming off of that, which Trump sees as

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Speaker 7: monumental in his ability to bring the parties to a table,

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Speaker 7: and then with the way they were able to sort

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Speaker 7: of take advantage of the crisis of the Doha Tech

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Speaker 7: really shows the way that they're they're wheeling and dealing

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Speaker 7: in the region in a way that a previous president's

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Speaker 7: just haven't.

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Speaker 4: I want you to stick around if you can, for

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Speaker 4: one more segment. I want to go into because today

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Speaker 4: the Secretary of State is en route Mark Rubio to

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Speaker 4: kind of relieve the Vice president. You got, you got Jr.

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Speaker 4: And Witkoff there they're now in there now. I think

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Speaker 4: over in Doha, the UAE to go into Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 4: to talk to the golf emirates in the Saudis about this.

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Speaker 4: This is the concept of NETANYAHUO said yesterday, We're not

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Speaker 4: a protectorate, We're not a client state. We're actually in

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Speaker 4: a partnership. Of course, we argue here in the warm

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Speaker 4: totally differently. But a lot of activity have gone on

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Speaker 4: in the last twenty four hours that looks like the

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Speaker 4: United States is having to babysit this deal because the

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Speaker 4: net Yahoo, not the Isrosia. Netanyahu does one any part

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 4: What I can't get over. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 4: first draft of history. You don't see this type of

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Speaker 4: writing and reportage and talking to principles. There's almost no

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Speaker 4: you know, anonymous sources. You're talking to principles about what

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Speaker 4: happened in the moment in one of the most important things.

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Speaker 4: And I've said, hey, the Middle East, the side show

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Speaker 4: is yours, a side show to a sideshow, but it

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Speaker 4: has taken front and center. This summer, We're gonna have

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Speaker 4: harnwell on. I mean, President Trump now is back into

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Speaker 4: the Putin thing. He's got bessent with the Chinese. We're

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Speaker 4: trying to stop the Third World War. But this has

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Speaker 4: been gnawing at him and obviously been quite important and

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Speaker 4: first draft of history, you actually see it from the

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Speaker 4: It's from President Trump's own thinking and own voice. And

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Speaker 4: then the other principles now taught me because you know,

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Speaker 4: we're not net in Yaho fans here. And the reason

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Speaker 4: we're not net in Yaho fans this Greater Israel project,

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Speaker 4: which they kind of undertook and dragged the United States alone.

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Speaker 4: And this is why I say, hey, these guys are

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Speaker 4: protector They're not allies. I've never been allies. You've got

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Speaker 4: to get this thing under control. He's going to drag

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Speaker 4: us into a bunch of different wars over there. The

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Speaker 4: founders of the Nation of Israel had a very different

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Speaker 4: idea about Israelis about Israel's sovereignty, did they not?

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Speaker 7: Well, absolutely, I mean it was all based on the

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Speaker 7: notion of Israeli sovereignty and self determination, that the Jewish

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Speaker 7: people could have a nation state of their own and

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Speaker 7: their ancestral homeland and would not need to rely on

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Speaker 7: the rest of the world for the security of the

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Speaker 7: Jewish people. That was the lesson of World War two.

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Speaker 4: And exactly when they said never again. It wasn't just

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Speaker 4: the fact that they're going to take it and not

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Speaker 4: fight initially when they see threats, but they would not

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Speaker 4: be dependent upon anybody else. They would do it themselves.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 7: And of course the Desionist project began way before World

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Speaker 7: War Two, but that was the great lesson of the Holocaust.

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Speaker 7: We cannot rely on world powers to ensure our security.

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Speaker 7: And so there is, you know, a segment of the

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Speaker 7: has engineered the US Israel relationship because they're so dependent

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Speaker 7: have full freedom of movement and sovereignty in the way

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Speaker 4: All this is my point. If they want to do

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Speaker 4: the Greater Israel project, go for it, but it's on

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Speaker 4: your own if you want to actually work with President

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Speaker 4: Trump form Middle East peace. And let's talk about today

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Speaker 4: because you're reporting. If you read Eric's piece, and I

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Speaker 4: strongly recommend you go online or particularly if you're a

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Speaker 4: President Trump fan, get a copy, get a copy of this,

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Speaker 4: particularly the stunning cover in the reporting inside. But today

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Speaker 4: you know JD was there yesterday, he's coming back there.

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Speaker 4: And listen, it's a they're doing a relay to babysitting

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Speaker 4: net Yahoo. You have the vice president at first, you

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Speaker 4: have a Jarrett and Wickoff the two negotiators. Then the

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Speaker 4: Vice President goes over and now he's coming back, and

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Speaker 4: they don't want they don't want nen yahuo un chaperone.

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Speaker 4: So they're sending Rubio over there right now. And I'm

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Speaker 4: sure they're gonna send other guys afterwards, because ya who.

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Speaker 4: First off, they had the Kanesse what JD vance is there?

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Speaker 4: The Vice President of the United States. They pass something

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Speaker 4: that's actually counter to the twenty point deal. Correct, they

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Speaker 4: actually say they actually say that we're gonna send more

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Speaker 4: settlements or more sovereignty over Judeo Samara. Right, that's right,

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Speaker 4: that's right.

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Speaker 7: Emotion to annex the West Bank, which you know the

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Speaker 7: administration is vehemently against. It's not too too similar to

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Speaker 7: when the net Who government early in Obama's administration, when

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Speaker 7: But you know, It was very interesting timing because of

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Speaker 7: my conversation with President Trump. I asked, you know, what

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Speaker 7: would be the consequences if Natagna who capitulated to the

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Speaker 7: extremists and his coalition who want to annex the West Bank.

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Speaker 7: These are people like in Tamar ben vere Belizel Schmo, Trick,

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Speaker 7: guys in his cabinet, guys in his cabinet who he

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Speaker 7: leed in in order to form a government. And Trump

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Speaker 7: said to me, that will not happen. I gave my

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Speaker 7: word to the Arab countries that will not happen. And

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Speaker 7: then critically, he said Israel would lose all of its

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Speaker 7: support from the United States if that happened.

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Speaker 11: That was quite a direct.

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Speaker 3: State.

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Speaker 4: Dude, that's just not a scoop. That's a bombshell because

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Speaker 4: he's given it to him with both barrows right there.

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Speaker 4: Net I don't mess around with this. And listen, I've

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Speaker 4: never been a two state guy. But you essentially have

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Speaker 4: a two state. You have Qatar financing it, you got

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Speaker 4: two million Palestinians going to stay in Turkey's going to

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Speaker 4: be the security essentially guarantor of the organizer of the

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Speaker 4: UAE troops and the Egyptian troops and what's maybe some

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Speaker 4: Saudi troops. A you're gonna have Arab legion there overseen

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Speaker 4: by the Turks except Netanya, who says, yesterday when he's

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Speaker 4: there with JD the Times of Visuals got a quite

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Speaker 4: frankly brutal story. I put it up on Ghetter. He goes,

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Speaker 4: you know, I haven't made you know this and he says,

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Speaker 4: I haven't determined what world Turkey's going to have, like

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Speaker 4: what I think that's been decided? Right, And he's so,

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Speaker 4: you've got the over Judaea, Samarra, You've got now the

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Speaker 4: Turkish guarantee. The most stunning thing to me has happened

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Speaker 4: in the last forty eight hours is Jared Kushner and

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Speaker 4: Wikoff go have a direct presentation by the IDF and

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Speaker 4: the Ideas Headquarters, an actual presentation of the military situation

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Speaker 4: and security situation in Gaza and my understanding and basically

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Speaker 4: being a report of there. Netnya, who didn't know that

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Speaker 4: was going to happen, and they he always, you know NETNYA,

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Speaker 4: who's political team always baby says that Jared and Wickoffs saying,

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Speaker 4: not we want to hear it, we want to hear it. Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: So they show up before they leave and I don't

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Speaker 4: even think they call the game when they leave to

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Speaker 4: say we're taking off, we're going to Saudi Arabia. This

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Speaker 4: and then NETA who said yesterday over we're not a protector,

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Speaker 4: we're not a client state. Well, I would think the

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Speaker 4: President the United States would beg to differ, but this

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Speaker 4: pushback like netna who pushing back on Turkey as a

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Speaker 4: security guaranteur, net NYA who not wanting to actually had

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Speaker 4: the idef because the idea's kind of punched out on

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Speaker 4: this thing. Give a thing, NETNYA, who's saying, well, I

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Speaker 4: got to determine what the real terms of this are

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Speaker 4: going to be. And you know, putting all this issues

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Speaker 4: with Hamas, who seems to me are now basically going

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Speaker 4: on with Cutter if he continues to force this that

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Speaker 4: he's he's the determining factor in this Middle East deal.

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Speaker 4: Given your understanding what the President told you in this

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Speaker 4: exclusive interview, how do you think this plays out?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think you know, Donald Trump and the administration

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Speaker 7: are going to make clear, no, we actually have a

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Speaker 7: role for Turkey. This is very deliberate and it was

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Speaker 7: part of the upshot of the conversations after the Doha

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Speaker 7: attack where they brought in the cutteries, they brought in

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Speaker 7: the Egyptians, and they brought in Turkey. Turkey was so

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Speaker 7: important because it's a NATO ally, so they could provide

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Speaker 7: guarantees to Hamas that if they broker the deal and

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Speaker 7: if they stuck by it, they would be a pathway

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Speaker 7: toward Phase two, which is this next part which has

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Speaker 7: all these thorny issues that tries to have a permanent,

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Speaker 7: final settlement of the conflicts. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 7: the Trump administration is going to allow for the Turks

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Speaker 7: to be ostracized from the process.

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Speaker 11: So that's something that.

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Speaker 7: They're very likely to put the hammer on.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the situation You've been doing this

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Speaker 4: for a while where you have two lead negotiators, Kushner

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Speaker 4: and Witkoff, and Jared's the architect of the Abraham of Courts,

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Speaker 4: which is really a business deal, and that's why the

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Speaker 4: diplomatic court doesn't really embrace it and doesn't understand it.

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Speaker 4: You have the two guys that are his lead negotiator.

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Speaker 4: One's the architect of the overall kind of framework for

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Speaker 4: the region. You've got you have the Vice President of

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Speaker 4: the United State, so when that goes to Israel, it's

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Speaker 4: a big deal because it very rarely happens. And you've

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Speaker 4: got then the Secretary of State all working a problem

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Speaker 4: kind of as a relay race. That baton passed the other.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever encountered any time, but any administration's ever

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Speaker 4: done anything like this.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty unprecedent, and it's pretty new and unique. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, usually in previous administrations, you have a Secretary

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Speaker 7: of State, you have a National Security advisor, and they

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Speaker 7: kind of go along and they are usually seasoned diplomats.

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump didn't want season diplomats, although Jared Kushner certainly

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Speaker 7: has diplomatic experience. From the first term. He wanted people

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Speaker 7: who came from real estate deal makers who spoke his language.

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Speaker 11: So he brings in.

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Speaker 7: Whitcoff, you know, another real estate magnet. He brings in Kushner,

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Speaker 7: also in real estate. But the family's bridge to the

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Speaker 7: Middle East because they have certain relationships that can enable

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Speaker 7: them to move forward in ways that they felt like

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Speaker 7: they were stalled from.

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Speaker 4: Are they getting blowback inside of Israel of being too

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Speaker 4: close to Cutter particularly, but maybe some of the other

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Speaker 4: golf emirates.

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Speaker 7: There's certainly segments that are step to call of that.

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Speaker 7: And even you know Ron Dermer, the former ambassador to

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Speaker 7: the United States for Israel, he's currently now in the

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Speaker 7: in the govern.

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Speaker 11: He's he's very.

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Speaker 7: Against involvement with the Cutteries. He doesn't trust them at all,

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Speaker 7: and there are others who feel the same way. So,

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Speaker 7: but the Cutteries have been that bridge to Hamas. I mean,

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Speaker 7: they're those chief mediators. If not for the relationship with

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Speaker 7: the Cutteries, they would not have had the same ability

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Speaker 7: to bring them to the table.

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Speaker 4: Look, I said forever in the first trip we made.

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Speaker 4: They're the railhead of financing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

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Speaker 4: and Turkey are kind of the muscle for the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 4: But it was Netanyahu that really when we say the

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Speaker 4: bridge to the Hams, it was Netnya who really brought

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Speaker 4: the Cutteries in. I mean, he's been working and working

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Speaker 4: with the Cutteries for years. It's the Cutteries money that

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Speaker 4: kind of kept Moas going for a while, right, so

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Speaker 4: he he and.

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Speaker 7: He actually allowed for the Cutteries to bring in not

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Speaker 7: just a funnel money, to bring in suitcases full of

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Speaker 7: cash to keep Hamas afloat in years before the attacks

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Speaker 7: on seven. So there's a reckoning in Israel about the

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Speaker 7: security failures that led to this terrible slaughter of civilians.

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Speaker 7: And part of the reason is because Natagna, who had

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Speaker 7: very deliberately wanted to keep Hamas and the fotel At

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Speaker 7: Palestine authority in West Bank divided so that there would

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Speaker 7: be no unified Palestinian leader or entity that could say

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Speaker 7: yes to negotiations in any kind of meaningful way.

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Speaker 4: Next Thursday, the twentieth, we're gonna I'm gonna take an

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Speaker 4: entire hour. There's a book out called While Israel Slept,

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Speaker 4: but it's two of the top israelis about military technology

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Speaker 4: and intelligence. This book, if you haven't gotten it, is

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Speaker 4: a page turner. They're going to be here, at least

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Speaker 4: the cats is going to be here, the two authors.

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get both. We're gonna spend an

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Speaker 4: entire hour and break down everything that led up to

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Speaker 4: October seventh. And then the Idef's response, Well, I've got

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Speaker 4: you for a couple of minutes covering the White House.

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Speaker 4: You're a very tough reporter, but you're a very people

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Speaker 4: know he's a tough guy. They ask tough questions, you

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Speaker 4: won't back off, but you're a fair guy. And being

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Speaker 4: tough and fair you get kind of scoop after scoop

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Speaker 4: on some of the major things going on in the

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Speaker 4: White House in the world. Why are so many of

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Speaker 4: your colleagues just when when President Trump opens up those

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Speaker 4: bylats which you cover every day, they still can't get

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Speaker 4: off the Trump derangement syndrome. Don't they understand that if

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Speaker 4: you're tough, but if you're fair, you're going to get

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Speaker 4: this White House? Caroline Levitt, and particularly the president because

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Speaker 4: he reads everything and he watches everything, that he's going

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Speaker 4: to give these guys a shot.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think tough but fair is a good mantra.

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Speaker 7: I found that President Trump, you know, he certainly wants

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Speaker 7: you to be fair, but you know, if you're rigorous

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Speaker 7: with him, if you're tough, he kind of respects that

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Speaker 7: a little bit more than if you're not. So you know, look,

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Speaker 7: I just try to ask probing, smart, rigorous questions that

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Speaker 7: I think will elicit newsmaking answers and that will provide

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Speaker 7: insight into what President is doing behind the scenes, give

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Speaker 7: us a sense of how this administration is really unfolding,

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Speaker 7: and so that was certainly the mission of this interview

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Speaker 7: in previous interviews, and you know, I'm just glad that

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Speaker 7: we were able to get some of that insight into

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Speaker 7: this milestone of a deal. We'll see if the piece holds,

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Speaker 7: but obviously piece it's.

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Speaker 4: A blockbuster, and everybody can't recommend strong enough for the

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Speaker 4: for Grace and Mode to push it out, but people

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Speaker 4: get the hard copy of the magazine. You're gonna want

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Speaker 4: to keep this one last question. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: you give up any confidences, but I assumed the President

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Speaker 4: the United States, and particularly giving his relationship what he feels,

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Speaker 4: I think he can talk to you, was not thrilled

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Speaker 4: by the last cover of Time magazine. Can I say that?

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Speaker 4: Is that an understatement?

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Speaker 7: Well, he certainly made that known.

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Speaker 4: So this photograph is going to be one for the ages,

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Speaker 4: and particularly You've got that iconic Time magazine and then

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Speaker 4: right above it Trump's World, and it's a brilliant piece.

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Speaker 4: I want to thank you for coming over a shred.

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Speaker 4: I know you're extremely busy day. Great hit on morning,

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Speaker 4: Joe and the war room really appreciates you coming.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me appreciate it. Okay, we're in a pivot.

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Speaker 4: Now we've got O'Keeffe, big deal over the at the

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Speaker 4: Small Business Association. From his investigation, Harnell was going to

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Speaker 4: join us. Hey, folks, this thing in Russia starting to metastasize.

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Speaker 4: Was Medvev basically came out with both barrels and said, hey,

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Speaker 4: what President Trump's proposing to do on some of the

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Speaker 4: restrictions on oil, some of the sanctions he put put on.

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Speaker 4: He called it an i quote from him, an act

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Speaker 4: of war. So we have active economic warfare between the

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Speaker 4: Chinese companies party in the United States over heavy rare earth.

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Speaker 4: Medvev is calling what President Trump's doing with the sanctions

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Speaker 4: of Russian oil quote an act of war, economic warfare.

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Speaker 11: All next in the.

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Speaker 1: War room, maybe this would take it down.

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Speaker 4: For the world of the Hot Kong. We will fight

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Speaker 4: till the rock God, we will joiced with war. Let's

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Speaker 4: take down. Use your host, Stephen k bas Okay, James

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Speaker 4: O'Keeffe joins us. I got Scott Presler on deck. By

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Speaker 4: the way, so at six o'clock night, I was going

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Speaker 4: to have the folks in Maine a bunch of breaking scandals.

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Speaker 4: There also talking about Cutter, what's going on with the

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Speaker 4: folks in Idaho. So with Jampack also Irish. This the

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Speaker 4: cultural nationalism they're coming after in the Great Britain and

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Speaker 4: in Ireland. We're going to have Mike Walsh. Michael Walsh

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Speaker 4: going to join us live at six Doctor Thayers. So

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Speaker 4: we were jammed all throughout the day. I want to

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Speaker 4: get James O'Keefe. O'Keeffe, your investigation is leading not just

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Speaker 4: to a series of massive scalps coming out of the

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Speaker 4: Small Business Administration, but I think it's going to lead

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Speaker 4: to a rethinking in the Trump administration, starting with Scott

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Speaker 4: bess and the team over at Treasury about exactly what

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Speaker 4: in the hell's going on with some of these programs

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Speaker 4: that have gone a little bit under the radar, but

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Speaker 4: people are just stealing cash with both hands. James O'Keeffe,

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Speaker 4: your investigation and the results so far.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, last night the Treasury Secretary of Scott Bessett said

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Speaker 9: that they are suspending all of the contracts and task

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Speaker 9: orders with this group. We uncovered pending an investigation to

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Speaker 9: allegations two hundred and fifty three million dollars in Treasury

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Speaker 9: administered contract value. We also have Kelly Loffler. The SBA

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Speaker 9: put out a statement saying they launched an investigation into

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Speaker 9: this so called eight A racket. This is the minority

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Speaker 9: owned businesses that act as passed throughs and show companies

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Speaker 9: Steve and then subcontract out to firms like Eccentri and

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Speaker 9: McKenzie and Steve. Last yesterday I also talked to the

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Speaker 9: Department of Justice. Someone in the Anti Trust Division called

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Speaker 9: me and said they're launching a criminal investigation, and we

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Speaker 9: have released another lot of updates. Here a second video. Yesterday,

873
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Speaker 9: I have another guy in this organization, this this federal contractor,

874
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 9: admitting to one hundred million dollar fraud. So this whole

875
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Speaker 9: scheme is racket. These show companies that act as minority firms,

876
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Speaker 9: but they're not actually minority firms. This is a one

877
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 9: hundred billion dollar scam. But what's different in this time?

878
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Speaker 9: And I've known you for fifteen years, As it looks

879
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Speaker 9: like they're actually suspending the contracts, the government's doing something

880
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Speaker 9: about it. I know it's a start. We hope the

881
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 9: Department of Justice arrests these people, but they told me

882
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Speaker 9: yesterday they are launching a criminal investigation.

883
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Speaker 4: So big news here Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on.

884
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Speaker 4: Suspending the contracts immediately cuts off the cash going through it.

885
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: That's huge. And we got Scott involved. That's even bigger

886
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: than the SPA because he's got to prove the check.

887
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: So that's massive. But Gail Slater, who were very close

888
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: to runs Antitrust, she's a hammer. You're telling me that

889
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 4: the anti trust people reached out to you that they're

890
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: beginning a criminal investigation.

891
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 9: Yes, on background, they did, and I want them to

892
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 9: go public.

893
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: I hope they do.

894
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 9: But in the meantime, they told me that they're launching

895
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 9: an investigation. Yes, and I really I recognize the government

896
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Speaker 9: shut down right now, so there's a bunch of bureaucracy

897
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Speaker 9: with all that. And but what people really want, which

898
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 9: is I know what you want, what we want. We

899
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 9: want justice, we want accountability. We want people arrested if

900
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 9: they're breaking the law, which in this case, if they're

901
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 9: doing less than fifty one percent of the works as

902
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 9: general contractors, they are breaking federal law. So if I

903
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 9: did this, Steve, if you did this, we'd be in jail.

904
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Speaker 9: We still five hundred dollars would be in prison. And

905
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Speaker 9: this is one hundred billion dollar fraud so breaking. Yes,

906
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 9: the answer your question is Gail did Gail tweeted at me?

907
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: Actually yesterday?

908
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 9: So so huge developments here.

909
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Speaker 4: You've been doing this now, you know, over a decade,

910
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: almost twenty years, from Acorn to now. Have you ever

911
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 4: seen a government move as quickly? I mean you came

912
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: on the show on Tuesday? Was it Wednesday? I mean

913
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Speaker 4: it's except forty eight hours. You've put up a these

914
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: videos you've been doing by the way, people should know,

915
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: and this is the power of O'Keefe. These operations are impossible.

916
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: You've been nine months in working this through the nine months,

917
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Speaker 4: but go ahead, people.

918
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 9: People have a false impression that this is some type

919
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 9: of you know, dating app meeting. This was not a

920
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 9: dating app encounter with these officials. We had to set

921
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 9: up a fake website, pose as a headhunter that did

922
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 9: similar work to what these eight a minority owned subcontractors do.

923
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Speaker 9: We had to find a hobby of the subjects that

924
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Speaker 9: we were investigating, meet with them under that pretense, simultaneously

925
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Speaker 9: bring up, oh what a coincidence we do something similar.

926
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Speaker 9: Then we had to offer a job to these people,

927
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Speaker 9: meet with them in restaurants two three times, uh focus

928
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Speaker 9: on multiple employees in the same firm to prove it

929
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Speaker 9: wasn't an isolated incident. And then in that meeting, I

930
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 9: wore this ridiculous disguise, Steve. People say, how could they

931
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 9: not recognize you with this absurd with this absurd wig.

932
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Speaker 9: I did that intention to show the incompetence and the corruption.

933
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Speaker 9: It's not just they're corrupt, they're incompetent, and I think

934
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Speaker 9: it's the goofiness. You know, the Acorn video from sixteen

935
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Speaker 9: years ago led to the congressional defunding of Acorn. That

936
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Speaker 9: was a Democratic controlled House and Senate eighty three to

937
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 9: seven in the Senate. It's a changed world. But with

938
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Speaker 9: Scott Bessett's statement, he says, quote, taxpayer dollars must be protected.

939
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Speaker 9: Will not tolerate schemes that try to gain small business programs.

940
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Speaker 9: So it appears as though Kelly Laffler at the SBI

941
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Speaker 9: Treasury Secretary of Scott Bessett and the individual you mentioned

942
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Speaker 9: in the Any Trust Division of the Department Justice are

943
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Speaker 9: taking this very seriously. I've never seen hundreds of millions

944
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Speaker 9: of dollars of contract suspended in all the investigations I've done.

945
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Speaker 4: In fifty immuniately and potential coronel. By the way, in

946
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: Acorn you were the mac Daddy. This week you were

947
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: a willy Wonka. I mean this is more of the top.

948
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Speaker 4: And don't, by the way, don't denigrate your dating apps.

949
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Speaker 4: I mean the war room here were we're mesrized by

950
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Speaker 4: those hits you've done. There, James, we got about a minute.

951
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: Where is this going, this investigation going, where are you

952
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: driving it? And where do people get more information about

953
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: it from your site?

954
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 9: Well, we have more whistleblowers coming to us now, We've

955
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 9: got twenty or thirty whistleblowers. So Senator Grassley wants to

956
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 9: talk to the whistleblowers that are seeing this firsthand. We're

957
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 9: also thinking about finding a keytam lawsuit. We're saving the

958
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 9: taxpayers money. And we have another video dropping today of

959
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 9: my encounter with this director of Contracts where I take

960
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 9: off the wig, I say who I really am.

961
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Speaker 4: We get a reaction.

962
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 9: I think what we need to do is we need

963
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 9: to have a massive, brave whistleblowers coming forward with their

964
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 9: fraud and take the one hundred billion dollar program down,

965
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 9: get it taken completely down.

966
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Speaker 4: Where do people go James to get to O'Keefe media

967
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: group and to get all the current content you're putting.

968
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Speaker 9: Up okeef mediagrip dot com, support us, donate us, reach

969
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Speaker 9: out there, okeethmdiagrip dot com.

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Speaker 4: Thank you brother, looking forward to the next chapter in

971
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: this getting immediate results. Secretary of the Treasury and Kelly Laffer,

972
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: head of SBA, say hey, all these contracts are immediately suspended,

973
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: full stop. Gail Slater, the hammer that runs the antitrust

974
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: division at Maine Justice, is saying, Hey, guess what I

975
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna have to investigate this. It looks like

976
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: it could be some criminal activity. James O'Keefe is on

977
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Speaker 4: the ramparts turbulence geopolitically in the Third World War. Russia's

978
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: calling President Trump's actions and active war. She is actually

979
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 4: in an active war economically against the United States. Scott's

980
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: best is trying to unwind that Birch Gold. Take your

981
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984
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Speaker 4: to Philip Patrick team and guess what. Hang on because

985
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a bumpy ride. Shortbreak Scott Presler. Next

986
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Speaker 4: in the war room,