1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:08,388 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:23,988 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,388 --> 00:00:27,148 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, GMFP. Everybody live in LA and New York. 5 00:00:27,148 --> 00:00:30,868 Speaker 3: It's Thursday, March thirteenth. Jamie Artall, Peter Shreger, Kyle Brant. Okay, 6 00:00:30,908 --> 00:00:33,028 Speaker 3: you know those guys. Jason Colbinda here, you know him 7 00:00:33,028 --> 00:00:35,748 Speaker 3: from the Lions. He's a fullback, the little linebacker two 8 00:00:35,748 --> 00:00:40,628 Speaker 3: when you're talking, likes to hit people. Defensive lineman. Isaac Rochelle, 9 00:00:40,748 --> 00:00:42,028 Speaker 3: Isaac how many years in the league? 10 00:00:42,268 --> 00:00:42,588 Speaker 4: Seven? 11 00:00:42,908 --> 00:00:48,108 Speaker 3: Seven? Recently retired? Isaac Rochelle at the table. Yeah, people 12 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,268 Speaker 3: have a clap for you enough recently. So here we go. Isaac, 13 00:00:50,308 --> 00:00:51,668 Speaker 3: how was your first hour on GMFB? 14 00:00:52,108 --> 00:00:54,508 Speaker 4: Great? Great? You know, you guys are easy to talk to, 15 00:00:54,948 --> 00:00:55,908 Speaker 4: so we got a good crew. 16 00:00:56,348 --> 00:00:59,068 Speaker 3: We appreciate that so much. Editorially, Peter and Kyle give 17 00:00:59,108 --> 00:01:00,788 Speaker 3: you a heads up. Isaac's in the break, He's like, 18 00:01:01,388 --> 00:01:03,908 Speaker 3: do we ever just have like open conversation, Like, Isaac, 19 00:01:03,908 --> 00:01:05,988 Speaker 3: you got to tie to We'll bring it to the table. Okay, 20 00:01:06,028 --> 00:01:07,868 Speaker 3: So we're gonna throw some ideas at the wall and 21 00:01:07,908 --> 00:01:09,908 Speaker 3: we are going to cover everything that Rachelle. Let's talk 22 00:01:09,908 --> 00:01:12,308 Speaker 3: about over the next couple of days. Until then we're 23 00:01:12,308 --> 00:01:14,108 Speaker 3: in the midst of free agency. We got our guys, 24 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:18,628 Speaker 3: Ian Rappaport and Tom Pillasero in their NFL Network Insiders. Gentlemen, 25 00:01:18,788 --> 00:01:21,268 Speaker 3: let's go again, round the merry go round we go 26 00:01:21,428 --> 00:01:24,268 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Let's start off with the latest the quarterbacks 27 00:01:24,308 --> 00:01:26,228 Speaker 3: and make our way through Ian start the business. 28 00:01:27,628 --> 00:01:27,828 Speaker 5: Well. 29 00:01:27,948 --> 00:01:30,068 Speaker 6: When we last saw Aaron Rodgers, it was in the 30 00:01:30,068 --> 00:01:33,468 Speaker 6: tabloids wandering around a beach in Australia. Air POD's in 31 00:01:33,868 --> 00:01:36,548 Speaker 6: looking according to the headline Solemn, although I felt it 32 00:01:36,628 --> 00:01:39,268 Speaker 6: was more reflective, there's nothing to be solid about. Aaron 33 00:01:39,348 --> 00:01:43,028 Speaker 6: Rodgers is wanted by two teams, at least two pretty 34 00:01:43,068 --> 00:01:46,308 Speaker 6: good teams, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Of course, last year we're 35 00:01:46,588 --> 00:01:48,828 Speaker 6: basically at the end of the season a quarterback away 36 00:01:48,868 --> 00:01:51,228 Speaker 6: from being an excellent team defenses, ball, and he got 37 00:01:51,228 --> 00:01:53,068 Speaker 6: one of the best coaches in the NFL and Mike 38 00:01:53,148 --> 00:01:56,748 Speaker 6: Tomlins storied organization. The Steelers want Aaron Rodgers, and the 39 00:01:56,788 --> 00:01:58,788 Speaker 6: teams like money's not gonna be an issue. If he 40 00:01:58,948 --> 00:02:02,388 Speaker 6: chooses them, that deal will be done. Merk Giants showed 41 00:02:02,428 --> 00:02:05,788 Speaker 6: last year, especially at the end. If they competent quarterback play. 42 00:02:05,868 --> 00:02:07,828 Speaker 6: They will be just fine as well. They've also added 43 00:02:07,868 --> 00:02:11,068 Speaker 6: in free agency two key pieces in the secondary. Tom 44 00:02:11,308 --> 00:02:13,628 Speaker 6: Get Javon Holland you got Paulson Adebo. 45 00:02:13,868 --> 00:02:15,148 Speaker 2: Really just need a quarterback. 46 00:02:15,188 --> 00:02:17,948 Speaker 6: They have made it known they want Aaron Rodgers as well, 47 00:02:18,628 --> 00:02:20,948 Speaker 6: so he has taking his time the league year. The 48 00:02:20,988 --> 00:02:23,348 Speaker 6: start of the league year came and went. Literally nothing 49 00:02:23,388 --> 00:02:26,708 Speaker 6: happened revolving around Aaron Rodgers. We continue to wait, and 50 00:02:26,748 --> 00:02:29,668 Speaker 6: obviously he is not the only quarterback who is waiting 51 00:02:29,788 --> 00:02:31,108 Speaker 6: to see what Aaron Rodgers does. 52 00:02:32,708 --> 00:02:33,068 Speaker 5: That's right. 53 00:02:33,148 --> 00:02:36,748 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson also is looking at his future here in 54 00:02:36,868 --> 00:02:38,348 Speaker 7: terms of where he's going to end up, and a 55 00:02:38,348 --> 00:02:42,188 Speaker 7: lot of that is tied to where Aaron Rodgers ends up. However, 56 00:02:42,668 --> 00:02:45,908 Speaker 7: there is also the possibility of a third team entry 57 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:48,908 Speaker 7: in the mix. In fact, Russell Wilson today is headed 58 00:02:48,908 --> 00:02:51,748 Speaker 7: to Cleveland before we visit with the Browns. Of course, 59 00:02:51,828 --> 00:02:54,348 Speaker 7: the Browns on the number two overall pick one spot 60 00:02:54,428 --> 00:02:55,388 Speaker 7: above the Giants. 61 00:02:55,548 --> 00:02:57,908 Speaker 5: They can take a quarterback there, or. 62 00:02:57,788 --> 00:03:01,708 Speaker 7: They could potentially pivot and make an offer to Russell Wilson, 63 00:03:01,708 --> 00:03:04,348 Speaker 7: the guy that they saw in their own division last year. 64 00:03:04,668 --> 00:03:07,788 Speaker 7: The fascinating part about this will be if it goes 65 00:03:07,828 --> 00:03:11,868 Speaker 7: well with the Browns today, and if Cleveland indicates it 66 00:03:11,988 --> 00:03:15,148 Speaker 7: is willing and wants to move forward with Russell Wilson, 67 00:03:15,788 --> 00:03:19,508 Speaker 7: then at that point is their pressure on the Steelers 68 00:03:19,588 --> 00:03:22,148 Speaker 7: and the Giants to potentially say, you know what, We're 69 00:03:22,148 --> 00:03:24,988 Speaker 7: not going to continue to wait around for Aaron Rodgers. 70 00:03:25,148 --> 00:03:27,148 Speaker 7: We need to try to make a move on Russ 71 00:03:27,228 --> 00:03:30,588 Speaker 7: right now. If this visit passes without a deal in Cleveland, 72 00:03:30,668 --> 00:03:34,668 Speaker 7: Russ is scheduled to visit with the Giants tomorrow. Obviously, 73 00:03:34,708 --> 00:03:37,468 Speaker 7: the Steelers continuing at this point to sit and see 74 00:03:37,468 --> 00:03:40,388 Speaker 7: what Aaron Rodgers wants to do first. But like all 75 00:03:40,428 --> 00:03:43,468 Speaker 7: these things, Jamie, there's only so many spots, so many 76 00:03:43,548 --> 00:03:45,188 Speaker 7: chairs in this game of musical chairs. 77 00:03:45,228 --> 00:03:45,468 Speaker 4: Here. 78 00:03:45,988 --> 00:03:49,428 Speaker 7: Whenever there's a decision, whether it's Aaron Rodgers or potentially 79 00:03:49,428 --> 00:03:52,108 Speaker 7: even the Browns with Russell Wilson, this thing could begin 80 00:03:52,188 --> 00:03:52,828 Speaker 7: to move a little. 81 00:03:52,628 --> 00:03:53,148 Speaker 4: Bit more quickly. 82 00:03:53,148 --> 00:03:55,108 Speaker 3: I remember this time last year's TP, we saw Russell 83 00:03:55,108 --> 00:03:58,148 Speaker 3: Wilson like wandering around Newark Airport. Which plane is he 84 00:03:58,188 --> 00:03:59,828 Speaker 3: going to get on? So we got to track him 85 00:04:00,028 --> 00:04:03,108 Speaker 3: in the commercial airline business Ian and TP just a 86 00:04:03,148 --> 00:04:05,188 Speaker 3: quick follow up, I'd be read us not to ask 87 00:04:05,188 --> 00:04:06,908 Speaker 3: about one of those logos that we will not put 88 00:04:06,908 --> 00:04:09,948 Speaker 3: at the bottom of the screen, and the path of 89 00:04:09,988 --> 00:04:12,148 Speaker 3: the Brett Favera, if you will, the fact that he 90 00:04:12,188 --> 00:04:15,548 Speaker 3: goes Packers Jets Vikings. Is there any juice inside the 91 00:04:15,628 --> 00:04:18,988 Speaker 3: lemon of Aaron Rodgers potentially landing in Minnesota. 92 00:04:19,708 --> 00:04:22,788 Speaker 6: Well, Minnesota is a thing that Tom and I have 93 00:04:22,908 --> 00:04:25,828 Speaker 6: talked about. We've both checked on. We know that it 94 00:04:25,908 --> 00:04:28,268 Speaker 6: is a place Aaron Rodgers would love to play. I 95 00:04:28,388 --> 00:04:30,588 Speaker 6: knows it wouldn't be able to afford a huge contract. 96 00:04:30,588 --> 00:04:33,188 Speaker 6: Seems to be fine with that, and you know, looking 97 00:04:33,228 --> 00:04:35,148 Speaker 6: at the landscape of things, if you're a quarterback, and 98 00:04:35,148 --> 00:04:38,188 Speaker 6: I think Sam Darnold just learned this pretty well, Minnesota 99 00:04:38,268 --> 00:04:42,028 Speaker 6: Vikings is a fantastic, fantastic landing spot. Just doesn't seem 100 00:04:42,068 --> 00:04:44,108 Speaker 6: like as of right now, there's been any traction with 101 00:04:44,148 --> 00:04:46,148 Speaker 6: the Vikings and to go down that way. 102 00:04:46,588 --> 00:04:49,108 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is a first rounder. Last year. 103 00:04:49,188 --> 00:04:51,268 Speaker 6: I liked him a real lot in training camp, had 104 00:04:51,268 --> 00:04:53,588 Speaker 6: a really solid performance, showed a ton of potential, got 105 00:04:53,588 --> 00:04:56,228 Speaker 6: injured so obviously didn't play last year. But it seems 106 00:04:56,268 --> 00:04:59,228 Speaker 6: Tom that the direction the Vikings are going are JJ 107 00:04:59,348 --> 00:05:03,148 Speaker 6: McCarthy and then maybe a veteran behind him rather than 108 00:05:03,548 --> 00:05:06,748 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers for year, wait on JJ McCarthy and kind 109 00:05:06,748 --> 00:05:08,748 Speaker 6: of proceed from there. As of right now, that seems 110 00:05:08,788 --> 00:05:10,308 Speaker 6: to be the direction for the Vikings. 111 00:05:10,428 --> 00:05:11,388 Speaker 2: It would be a surprise. 112 00:05:11,508 --> 00:05:14,348 Speaker 7: It would be a surprise if Aaron Rodgers ends up 113 00:05:14,348 --> 00:05:16,748 Speaker 7: in Minnesota. He and Kevin O'Connell do have a relationship. 114 00:05:16,828 --> 00:05:19,908 Speaker 7: They're about the same age, they're both California guys. 115 00:05:19,908 --> 00:05:21,828 Speaker 5: They've known each other for years here. 116 00:05:21,868 --> 00:05:25,028 Speaker 7: But just based upon how they've approached this, they did 117 00:05:25,068 --> 00:05:26,748 Speaker 7: make an offer to Sam Donold. They made an offer 118 00:05:26,748 --> 00:05:29,068 Speaker 7: and tried to resign Daniel Jones, but once it got 119 00:05:29,068 --> 00:05:31,748 Speaker 7: to that point again they're exploring options, rule nothing out. 120 00:05:31,868 --> 00:05:33,908 Speaker 7: But it seems like the focus at this point is 121 00:05:33,908 --> 00:05:38,348 Speaker 7: figuring out how to best build the room around JJ McCarthy. Also, Jamie, 122 00:05:38,388 --> 00:05:42,668 Speaker 7: you mentioned the Brett Favre path from Green Bay to 123 00:05:42,788 --> 00:05:44,788 Speaker 7: New York and then evntion to the Vikings. He did 124 00:05:44,828 --> 00:05:46,748 Speaker 7: not sign that year in two thousand and nine with 125 00:05:46,788 --> 00:05:50,548 Speaker 7: the Vikings until August eighteenth. If we get to August 126 00:05:50,628 --> 00:05:54,628 Speaker 7: eighteenth and we don't know where Aaron Rodgers is going still, 127 00:05:54,668 --> 00:05:57,148 Speaker 7: I think that me and Ian are going to just 128 00:05:57,228 --> 00:06:00,828 Speaker 7: be exiting this job. We're gonna let Isaac Carshaw, who 129 00:06:00,908 --> 00:06:03,468 Speaker 7: did a great job on Good Morning Football covering. We'll 130 00:06:03,548 --> 00:06:06,028 Speaker 7: let Jason Cobin, who is dressed like a muscled up 131 00:06:06,108 --> 00:06:08,988 Speaker 7: Kurt Cobain nineteen ninety four, go ahead and handle this story. 132 00:06:09,228 --> 00:06:11,748 Speaker 7: You don't need us at that point. You guys take 133 00:06:11,828 --> 00:06:13,868 Speaker 7: it from here. I've got like a July first cut 134 00:06:13,908 --> 00:06:14,508 Speaker 7: off on this thing. 135 00:06:14,588 --> 00:06:16,708 Speaker 3: And Cato has never seen a circus like they did 136 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:19,028 Speaker 3: when Rogers signed to training camp with the Vikings on 137 00:06:19,068 --> 00:06:20,948 Speaker 3: August eighteenth. Guys, appreciate it. We'll talk to you a 138 00:06:20,948 --> 00:06:22,588 Speaker 3: little bit. Wow, I've never seen that set up here. 139 00:06:22,628 --> 00:06:24,828 Speaker 3: We go three and out, So let's let's play that game. 140 00:06:24,868 --> 00:06:28,148 Speaker 3: We're going to start with the rating ap NFL MVP 141 00:06:28,468 --> 00:06:30,308 Speaker 3: Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. He met with the media on 142 00:06:30,308 --> 00:06:33,548 Speaker 3: Wednesday to discuss his new six here, three and thirty 143 00:06:33,588 --> 00:06:35,908 Speaker 3: million dollar deal, and he was asked, now that he 144 00:06:36,028 --> 00:06:38,748 Speaker 3: has this massive deal and faith from the Bills that 145 00:06:38,828 --> 00:06:41,268 Speaker 3: this is his home forever, does that prove that he 146 00:06:41,308 --> 00:06:42,948 Speaker 3: has figured everything out? 147 00:06:45,308 --> 00:06:48,628 Speaker 8: This doesn't mean I'm I've arrived. You know, I got 148 00:06:48,668 --> 00:06:51,508 Speaker 8: to continue to get better and find ways to help 149 00:06:51,548 --> 00:06:54,268 Speaker 8: this team. Get over that hump and win a Super Bowl. 150 00:06:54,388 --> 00:06:56,548 Speaker 8: So that's what we're going to continue to try to do. 151 00:06:56,708 --> 00:06:59,228 Speaker 8: This is home to me and it'll never not be home. 152 00:06:59,308 --> 00:07:03,668 Speaker 8: And yeah, I'd love to continue to play here as 153 00:07:03,668 --> 00:07:06,148 Speaker 8: long as as I can. And when it's time to 154 00:07:06,148 --> 00:07:08,988 Speaker 8: put the cleats up, hopefully that'll be a Buffalo. 155 00:07:08,708 --> 00:07:12,108 Speaker 6: Got anything earmarked, Maybe a bigger ring, perhaps with the 156 00:07:12,108 --> 00:07:13,108 Speaker 6: winning coming up. 157 00:07:13,548 --> 00:07:17,628 Speaker 8: I'll be your ring, you said, yeah, No, I think 158 00:07:17,668 --> 00:07:18,748 Speaker 8: she likes the one she's got. 159 00:07:20,788 --> 00:07:22,868 Speaker 3: People in Western New York really love hearing that out 160 00:07:22,868 --> 00:07:24,788 Speaker 3: of Josh Allen. Buffalo is home and it will be 161 00:07:24,868 --> 00:07:27,188 Speaker 3: for his football career. Peter, let's open it up to 162 00:07:27,228 --> 00:07:30,028 Speaker 3: the AFC and what the Bills are trying to accomplish 163 00:07:30,308 --> 00:07:33,628 Speaker 3: on that side of the NFL. Which team in the AFC? 164 00:07:33,748 --> 00:07:37,148 Speaker 3: Peter moves the gap closer, makes it smaller to catch 165 00:07:37,188 --> 00:07:39,668 Speaker 3: the Chiefs and their appearance in the Super Bowl every year. 166 00:07:40,828 --> 00:07:43,788 Speaker 9: You know, it's interesting because Buffalo has made some really 167 00:07:43,788 --> 00:07:45,508 Speaker 9: big moves, but they also have said goodbye to a 168 00:07:45,548 --> 00:07:47,668 Speaker 9: lot of key players. I think Mac Collins was a 169 00:07:47,668 --> 00:07:49,228 Speaker 9: big loss, and I don't think we're going to talk 170 00:07:49,228 --> 00:07:51,428 Speaker 9: about that enough. It just kind of got washed away 171 00:07:51,428 --> 00:07:53,268 Speaker 9: as going to the Patriots, Mac Collins, their leading receiver. 172 00:07:53,468 --> 00:07:56,308 Speaker 9: Do you know only five percent of the Bill's salary 173 00:07:56,308 --> 00:07:59,108 Speaker 9: cap right now is dedicated to the wide receiver position. 174 00:07:59,468 --> 00:08:01,988 Speaker 9: It's a wild number. And that's Khalil Shaki of course. 175 00:08:02,228 --> 00:08:03,708 Speaker 9: And then they brought in the new help this year. 176 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:06,628 Speaker 9: But we'll see Buffalo. I think they're right there obviously. 177 00:08:07,188 --> 00:08:11,388 Speaker 9: I think Denver jumped leaps and bounds this week. I 178 00:08:11,428 --> 00:08:15,868 Speaker 9: think bringing in guys like Drake Greenlaw and Teleanoah Hufanga. 179 00:08:16,388 --> 00:08:18,908 Speaker 9: These are veteran defensive guys that can shore up the 180 00:08:18,948 --> 00:08:22,428 Speaker 9: defense even more and give Mahomes nightmares. 181 00:08:22,788 --> 00:08:24,228 Speaker 2: I look at these four moves here. 182 00:08:24,268 --> 00:08:26,948 Speaker 9: They're not going to be the Aaron Rodgers signing or 183 00:08:26,988 --> 00:08:28,228 Speaker 9: the Sam Darnold. 184 00:08:27,868 --> 00:08:29,388 Speaker 2: Signing on your bottom line ticker. 185 00:08:29,868 --> 00:08:32,788 Speaker 9: But these are veteran guys that take a young Broncos 186 00:08:32,828 --> 00:08:37,228 Speaker 9: team and makes them better. They also added Darren Rizzy 187 00:08:37,388 --> 00:08:41,228 Speaker 9: as their special teams quarterat. I love the Rizzi, I 188 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:44,668 Speaker 9: love the Rizzler doing the chin thing. I am a 189 00:08:44,708 --> 00:08:47,428 Speaker 9: fan of what Rizzy's got to bring on special teams. 190 00:08:47,708 --> 00:08:48,828 Speaker 2: That's an upgrade. 191 00:08:49,068 --> 00:08:51,628 Speaker 9: I think the Broncos, who finished in third in the 192 00:08:51,668 --> 00:08:55,748 Speaker 9: AFC West last year, I think the Broncos got really, 193 00:08:55,828 --> 00:08:59,068 Speaker 9: really better over the last few days and key spots 194 00:08:59,108 --> 00:09:02,868 Speaker 9: at safety at linebacker, and they not only close to 195 00:09:02,868 --> 00:09:05,708 Speaker 9: Gavin in the AFC West, they got better and might 196 00:09:05,748 --> 00:09:06,748 Speaker 9: be challenging. 197 00:09:06,348 --> 00:09:08,108 Speaker 2: For the AFC as a whole this year. 198 00:09:08,628 --> 00:09:10,788 Speaker 9: I'm all in on Denver this offseason, and I think 199 00:09:10,828 --> 00:09:12,988 Speaker 9: the hype is going to be real in August when 200 00:09:12,988 --> 00:09:14,948 Speaker 9: we start seeing bo Nicks at training camp be the 201 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:17,628 Speaker 9: true leader of the team. I still want to see 202 00:09:17,628 --> 00:09:19,188 Speaker 9: what they bring it at running back and who they 203 00:09:19,188 --> 00:09:20,868 Speaker 9: get in the draft. I think Denver could be a 204 00:09:20,908 --> 00:09:22,868 Speaker 9: real viable candidate in the AFC this year. 205 00:09:23,108 --> 00:09:25,388 Speaker 1: You're setting up those chips to ride this Broncos thing 206 00:09:25,428 --> 00:09:26,308 Speaker 1: for the next ten years. 207 00:09:26,308 --> 00:09:26,468 Speaker 4: Now. 208 00:09:26,708 --> 00:09:28,828 Speaker 5: I can see you working, and I respect it. 209 00:09:29,108 --> 00:09:31,508 Speaker 1: I'm going to say something that everybody said last year 210 00:09:31,868 --> 00:09:33,988 Speaker 1: and fewer people are going to say this year. I 211 00:09:34,028 --> 00:09:36,428 Speaker 1: like the Texans. I like where the Texans are going. 212 00:09:36,708 --> 00:09:38,708 Speaker 1: I like this dream thing last year and win the 213 00:09:38,748 --> 00:09:39,228 Speaker 1: whole Super Bowl. 214 00:09:39,228 --> 00:09:39,548 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. 215 00:09:39,748 --> 00:09:40,348 Speaker 5: They had a very. 216 00:09:40,228 --> 00:09:42,948 Speaker 1: Fine season, but it ended with them scoring fourteen points 217 00:09:42,948 --> 00:09:47,068 Speaker 1: against the world champs. And they add now names guys, 218 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:49,348 Speaker 1: you know, Christian Kirk, who I don't think was the 219 00:09:49,348 --> 00:09:51,348 Speaker 1: superstar he was paid to be in his last stop. 220 00:09:51,388 --> 00:09:53,188 Speaker 5: Will have a nice role here. He doesn't have to 221 00:09:53,188 --> 00:09:53,748 Speaker 5: do everything. 222 00:09:53,828 --> 00:09:56,308 Speaker 1: Braxton Barrios, she love them on social media, love them 223 00:09:56,348 --> 00:10:00,028 Speaker 1: on special teams. Justin Watson, mister faithfull in the back 224 00:10:00,068 --> 00:10:01,868 Speaker 1: of the end zone for the Chiefs for so long. 225 00:10:02,188 --> 00:10:03,548 Speaker 5: Those are guys you can count on. 226 00:10:03,628 --> 00:10:06,108 Speaker 1: And then the Peace Stavris, the stunts in the bottom 227 00:10:06,188 --> 00:10:09,548 Speaker 1: right corner. Someone has a personal foul coming their way 228 00:10:09,548 --> 00:10:11,428 Speaker 1: for punching the safety of the Houston Texas. 229 00:10:11,428 --> 00:10:12,988 Speaker 5: His name is CJ. Gardner Johnson. 230 00:10:13,228 --> 00:10:15,468 Speaker 1: He's showing up, and I think they need a little 231 00:10:15,468 --> 00:10:17,548 Speaker 1: bit more of that, especially in the secondary. I love 232 00:10:17,588 --> 00:10:19,908 Speaker 1: their defense, but I like what he brings as well 233 00:10:19,948 --> 00:10:22,628 Speaker 1: as the new offensive coordinator on that side. The Texans 234 00:10:22,668 --> 00:10:25,068 Speaker 1: will not be the darling team this year. Peter covered 235 00:10:25,068 --> 00:10:25,948 Speaker 1: that in his dissertation. 236 00:10:26,028 --> 00:10:28,788 Speaker 5: That'll be the Roka. This will be the team that 237 00:10:28,948 --> 00:10:30,188 Speaker 5: is not being looked at. 238 00:10:30,188 --> 00:10:32,468 Speaker 1: And remember what they did to the Chargers and Herbert 239 00:10:32,468 --> 00:10:35,068 Speaker 1: and Harbaugh. Don't think that they're just gonna go away 240 00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:36,228 Speaker 1: and lie down and go to sleep. 241 00:10:36,268 --> 00:10:36,468 Speaker 4: Now. 242 00:10:36,628 --> 00:10:37,588 Speaker 5: I like the Texas. 243 00:10:37,628 --> 00:10:41,668 Speaker 1: No crazy superstars, but good players, fast players and players 244 00:10:41,668 --> 00:10:44,148 Speaker 1: that have been there yes, the Texans in twenty twenty 245 00:10:44,268 --> 00:10:46,108 Speaker 1: five the alternative choice. 246 00:10:46,188 --> 00:10:47,468 Speaker 5: What do you say of Benda. 247 00:10:47,708 --> 00:10:48,628 Speaker 4: Kyle, I hear you. 248 00:10:48,748 --> 00:10:50,988 Speaker 10: I don't love the fact that they didn't re sign 249 00:10:51,108 --> 00:10:53,828 Speaker 10: Laramie tunsl I think that really rubbed the players the 250 00:10:53,868 --> 00:10:56,508 Speaker 10: wrong way. I think Christian Kirk and Burials are similar players. 251 00:10:56,548 --> 00:10:58,628 Speaker 10: Barrels is going to be more of a returner than 252 00:10:58,668 --> 00:11:00,668 Speaker 10: a real offensive threat for them. So I just don't 253 00:11:00,708 --> 00:11:03,588 Speaker 10: see the help for CJ. Stroud and especially tang Dell 254 00:11:03,628 --> 00:11:05,268 Speaker 10: with the knee injury. It looks like he might not 255 00:11:05,308 --> 00:11:07,668 Speaker 10: even play this next season. Not a believer, but I 256 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:10,508 Speaker 10: will say the Ravens, I'm a big believer in they 257 00:11:10,508 --> 00:11:13,188 Speaker 10: bring in d Hop another weapon for Lamar Jackson, pair 258 00:11:13,268 --> 00:11:16,108 Speaker 10: him up with Rashad Bateman on the outside. I mean, 259 00:11:17,068 --> 00:11:20,028 Speaker 10: and Isaac knows this. Coaches come in all the time 260 00:11:20,028 --> 00:11:22,868 Speaker 10: in the media rooms and they say more games are 261 00:11:23,028 --> 00:11:25,308 Speaker 10: lost in the NFL than they are won. And if 262 00:11:25,348 --> 00:11:28,108 Speaker 10: you look at that game against the Bills, Mark Andrews 263 00:11:28,268 --> 00:11:30,388 Speaker 10: with a fumble that we really don't see out of 264 00:11:30,388 --> 00:11:33,508 Speaker 10: Mark Andrews. We saw the infamous cat Steady missed in 265 00:11:33,508 --> 00:11:36,828 Speaker 10: that two point conversion. The Ravens lost that game. I 266 00:11:36,868 --> 00:11:39,068 Speaker 10: don't feel like the Bills won that game, and I 267 00:11:39,068 --> 00:11:40,828 Speaker 10: think that if they did go and play the Chiefs, 268 00:11:40,828 --> 00:11:42,908 Speaker 10: I think the Ravens win that game. They re signed 269 00:11:42,948 --> 00:11:45,908 Speaker 10: Ronnie Stanley to make sure that Lamar Jackson's blind side 270 00:11:46,068 --> 00:11:48,908 Speaker 10: is still protected. I'm a big, big Lamar Jackson fan 271 00:11:49,028 --> 00:11:51,188 Speaker 10: and believer. I think the Ravens are the ones who 272 00:11:51,188 --> 00:11:53,228 Speaker 10: have closed the gap with the Kansas City Chiefs. 273 00:11:54,308 --> 00:11:56,988 Speaker 11: Out of everybody I've heard, that makes the most sense. 274 00:11:57,308 --> 00:12:00,388 Speaker 11: But why are we not talking about the Buffalo Bills. 275 00:12:00,628 --> 00:12:03,148 Speaker 11: I mean we just heard, we just heard from Peter 276 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:05,948 Speaker 11: mac Collins is gone. Let's not forget that. Josh Palmer 277 00:12:05,988 --> 00:12:09,028 Speaker 11: came over. They're adding threats. Really, they're the Charges of 278 00:12:09,028 --> 00:12:10,668 Speaker 11: the East now because they brought over Bosa. 279 00:12:11,108 --> 00:12:13,028 Speaker 4: But I love this team. 280 00:12:13,068 --> 00:12:14,868 Speaker 11: I mean, the only thing they really needed to add 281 00:12:14,948 --> 00:12:16,748 Speaker 11: was another minute to the clock and they would have 282 00:12:16,748 --> 00:12:18,028 Speaker 11: won the last two years. 283 00:12:18,348 --> 00:12:21,468 Speaker 4: But this is a this is an old line right now. 284 00:12:21,268 --> 00:12:23,988 Speaker 11: That is really really good, ready to go. You just 285 00:12:24,108 --> 00:12:26,148 Speaker 11: extended Josh Allen. We just heard from him. This is 286 00:12:26,188 --> 00:12:28,828 Speaker 11: his home, like he's a comfortable I'm going to be 287 00:12:28,948 --> 00:12:31,388 Speaker 11: here and it's just going to keep getting better and 288 00:12:31,388 --> 00:12:34,908 Speaker 11: better offensively for them and again this edition of Joey 289 00:12:34,908 --> 00:12:36,468 Speaker 11: Bosa I think really is going to take it over 290 00:12:36,508 --> 00:12:39,668 Speaker 11: the edge I played with him. I love Joey, and 291 00:12:39,788 --> 00:12:43,188 Speaker 11: Joey with this deal that he just got, he's not 292 00:12:43,268 --> 00:12:45,388 Speaker 11: excited about this. I mean, he just saw forty million 293 00:12:45,428 --> 00:12:48,348 Speaker 11: dollars go and he's seeing himself as one of the 294 00:12:48,388 --> 00:12:50,788 Speaker 11: best guys in the NFL. He's going to be hungrier 295 00:12:50,828 --> 00:12:53,308 Speaker 11: than ever. And he's a technician, really good player. I'm 296 00:12:53,348 --> 00:12:54,508 Speaker 11: excited to see him ball. 297 00:12:54,668 --> 00:12:56,548 Speaker 3: All right, Welly, let go of von Miller and to 298 00:12:56,588 --> 00:12:59,428 Speaker 3: bring on Joey Bosa. Hopefully that's the difference maker for 299 00:12:59,468 --> 00:13:01,868 Speaker 3: them defensively, to bring up the intensity second down? Peter, 300 00:13:01,948 --> 00:13:02,348 Speaker 3: what's up? 301 00:13:02,788 --> 00:13:04,868 Speaker 2: Can I ask real quick? I want to He played 302 00:13:04,908 --> 00:13:08,548 Speaker 2: with Bosa for a long long time there in LA. 303 00:13:08,668 --> 00:13:11,668 Speaker 9: Obviously we talk Nick Bosa as the defensive player of 304 00:13:11,668 --> 00:13:13,588 Speaker 9: the year. We always know, like the Bosa brothers. What 305 00:13:13,628 --> 00:13:17,028 Speaker 9: does Joey Bosa bring to a team other than what. 306 00:13:16,988 --> 00:13:17,828 Speaker 2: We know on the field. 307 00:13:17,868 --> 00:13:19,068 Speaker 9: Is he a guy in the locker room that can 308 00:13:19,148 --> 00:13:21,148 Speaker 9: rally the troops and run a defensive line room. 309 00:13:21,388 --> 00:13:22,868 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the thing with Joey. 310 00:13:22,908 --> 00:13:25,348 Speaker 11: Every single day you're getting the same thing, which is 311 00:13:25,508 --> 00:13:26,468 Speaker 11: really beneficial. 312 00:13:26,588 --> 00:13:26,948 Speaker 4: Jason. 313 00:13:26,988 --> 00:13:29,068 Speaker 11: You know this, The worst thing you can have with 314 00:13:29,108 --> 00:13:31,228 Speaker 11: a coach or a teammate is somebody who you don't 315 00:13:31,228 --> 00:13:33,068 Speaker 11: know what you're gonna get. You know what you're gonna 316 00:13:33,068 --> 00:13:35,748 Speaker 11: get with Joey. And not to mention he's with the Bills. Now, 317 00:13:35,828 --> 00:13:37,988 Speaker 11: go run the tape from twenty twenty when he played 318 00:13:37,988 --> 00:13:40,228 Speaker 11: the Bills. This is a guy who's great against the 319 00:13:40,268 --> 00:13:42,388 Speaker 11: great against the run. He's gonna do what he needs 320 00:13:42,428 --> 00:13:44,588 Speaker 11: to do, set in the edge and TFLs, all these 321 00:13:44,588 --> 00:13:46,908 Speaker 11: things that matter, and he's gonna rush the passer. I 322 00:13:46,948 --> 00:13:50,508 Speaker 11: think they're getting just a very consistent, great player across 323 00:13:50,508 --> 00:13:51,428 Speaker 11: the board that went. 324 00:13:51,268 --> 00:13:53,228 Speaker 3: Well for him that year and they played the Chargers, 325 00:13:53,228 --> 00:13:54,188 Speaker 3: played the Bills in twenty times. 326 00:13:54,228 --> 00:13:56,028 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I mean this guy at six TfL's. I 327 00:13:56,068 --> 00:13:58,988 Speaker 11: was on the sideline watching this game like I didn't 328 00:13:58,988 --> 00:14:02,148 Speaker 11: even know I know, right, Yeah, six TfL's is crazy. 329 00:14:02,228 --> 00:14:04,828 Speaker 3: That is crazy. Second down, Peter removed, and we're looking 330 00:14:04,868 --> 00:14:08,268 Speaker 3: at Shador Sanders as QUB one in Cleveland or New 331 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:10,788 Speaker 3: York next year. What do you think about this? You 332 00:14:10,828 --> 00:14:12,828 Speaker 3: ready to commit his name to one of those logos 333 00:14:12,828 --> 00:14:13,708 Speaker 3: at the bottom of the screen. 334 00:14:14,908 --> 00:14:17,308 Speaker 9: Well, you start looking at the musical chairs that Tom 335 00:14:17,348 --> 00:14:20,108 Speaker 9: Pellisera was talking about, and they get filled one by 336 00:14:20,148 --> 00:14:23,108 Speaker 9: one by one. Let's say the Titans, who didn't address 337 00:14:23,188 --> 00:14:25,748 Speaker 9: quarterback at all, let's say they're going cam Ward. 338 00:14:25,828 --> 00:14:26,788 Speaker 2: Just let's just say that. 339 00:14:27,028 --> 00:14:29,628 Speaker 9: Then you have teams two in Team three and that's 340 00:14:29,668 --> 00:14:32,548 Speaker 9: Cleveland and that's the Giants. Russell Wilson is visiting these 341 00:14:32,548 --> 00:14:36,228 Speaker 9: two teams today. I would imagine Russell Wilson will end 342 00:14:36,348 --> 00:14:39,268 Speaker 9: up with either Pittsburgh, New York or Cleveland as a 343 00:14:39,348 --> 00:14:42,028 Speaker 9: veteran guy. And then it's like, all right, well, we 344 00:14:42,068 --> 00:14:44,788 Speaker 9: have the second and third pick. I think Shador Sanders 345 00:14:44,828 --> 00:14:47,108 Speaker 9: could still go as high as number two in this draft. 346 00:14:47,188 --> 00:14:48,748 Speaker 9: I still think it could go as high as number 347 00:14:48,748 --> 00:14:51,188 Speaker 9: three in this draft. And I think eventually he will 348 00:14:51,188 --> 00:14:53,948 Speaker 9: be quarterback one of whatever team drafts. And I know 349 00:14:53,988 --> 00:14:56,188 Speaker 9: there's a lot of mock drafts that have Shador Sanders 350 00:14:56,468 --> 00:14:57,388 Speaker 9: slipping all the way. 351 00:14:57,308 --> 00:14:58,068 Speaker 5: To the end of the first raft. 352 00:14:58,308 --> 00:15:01,508 Speaker 9: It's not even about Shadoor and him, it's about the 353 00:15:01,628 --> 00:15:05,468 Speaker 9: lack of quarterbacks about these teams need to fill holes. 354 00:15:05,908 --> 00:15:09,828 Speaker 9: So through the Giants and it's Russell Wilson or it's 355 00:15:09,828 --> 00:15:13,068 Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers, you still need a quarterback for the future 356 00:15:13,988 --> 00:15:16,788 Speaker 9: at Shador Sanders, by all accounts, is the number two guys. 357 00:15:16,828 --> 00:15:17,708 Speaker 2: So it's almost like. 358 00:15:17,948 --> 00:15:22,508 Speaker 9: Do you need Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter or Shador Sanders. 359 00:15:22,548 --> 00:15:23,668 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. 360 00:15:23,788 --> 00:15:26,188 Speaker 9: I would think quarterback is the most important position. And 361 00:15:26,228 --> 00:15:28,668 Speaker 9: if you value him in that way, what's the difference 362 00:15:28,708 --> 00:15:33,948 Speaker 9: between drafting him second overall or him going eighth, ninth, tenth, fifteenth, sixteenth. 363 00:15:34,508 --> 00:15:36,428 Speaker 9: I still think Shador Sanders is going to be a 364 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:39,028 Speaker 9: first round pick, and I still think it's very possible that. 365 00:15:38,988 --> 00:15:40,468 Speaker 2: He could be the quarterback. 366 00:15:40,068 --> 00:15:43,388 Speaker 9: One in both Cleveland and the Giants, and he'll meet 367 00:15:43,428 --> 00:15:44,108 Speaker 9: with these teams. 368 00:15:44,268 --> 00:15:46,348 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. I don't know about Cleveland. 369 00:15:46,588 --> 00:15:49,308 Speaker 9: I know the Giants did not spend an entirely long 370 00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:51,788 Speaker 9: amount of time with him at the Combine, and so 371 00:15:51,828 --> 00:15:54,428 Speaker 9: you saw this stuff like he was brash at the Combine. 372 00:15:54,548 --> 00:15:56,188 Speaker 9: I didn't report that. I don't know if he was 373 00:15:56,188 --> 00:16:00,388 Speaker 9: brash and arrogant combine. I don't know that was a 374 00:16:00,548 --> 00:16:02,948 Speaker 9: report that was taking. I do know that the Giants 375 00:16:03,028 --> 00:16:04,948 Speaker 9: and spend a lot of time in talking to starts. 376 00:16:04,948 --> 00:16:07,308 Speaker 9: They're like, oh, we'll get to know Shador quite well 377 00:16:07,348 --> 00:16:08,868 Speaker 9: over the next few weeks. And oh yeah, by the way, 378 00:16:09,308 --> 00:16:12,508 Speaker 9: we have been to visit Shador and see games quite 379 00:16:12,548 --> 00:16:15,748 Speaker 9: amount of times, so it's like the combined fifteen minute interview. 380 00:16:15,788 --> 00:16:18,268 Speaker 9: It's almost, let's meet everyone else. We know Shador and 381 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:19,628 Speaker 9: we know we're gonna have to get to know him. 382 00:16:19,748 --> 00:16:21,468 Speaker 9: I still think he's very much in line to be 383 00:16:21,508 --> 00:16:22,988 Speaker 9: the second or third pick in this draft. 384 00:16:23,148 --> 00:16:25,148 Speaker 1: I see both those logos for Shador and I like 385 00:16:25,188 --> 00:16:28,468 Speaker 1: each of them. I want Shador to land somewhere that's interesting, 386 00:16:28,708 --> 00:16:30,628 Speaker 1: that's all I care. I don't want him to go 387 00:16:30,668 --> 00:16:34,028 Speaker 1: to just a solid franchise that's sort of average. I 388 00:16:34,028 --> 00:16:35,948 Speaker 1: want him to go somewhere that has a character based 389 00:16:35,948 --> 00:16:38,868 Speaker 1: around it, that has personality. Both of these are amazing. Obviously, 390 00:16:38,908 --> 00:16:41,428 Speaker 1: the New York thing in the New York media, that thing, 391 00:16:41,508 --> 00:16:44,148 Speaker 1: the history there is a huge, huge deal for us 392 00:16:44,148 --> 00:16:46,548 Speaker 1: to celebrate. And then if he goes to Cleveland, like, 393 00:16:47,028 --> 00:16:50,188 Speaker 1: is the Quarterback Street going to be broken by Deon Sanderson? 394 00:16:50,628 --> 00:16:52,308 Speaker 1: Is he going to be He's gonna be quarterback number 395 00:16:52,308 --> 00:16:54,948 Speaker 1: forty one since they moved back to Cleveland. Is he 396 00:16:54,988 --> 00:16:58,308 Speaker 1: going to join like the Kevin Hogan, Jason Campbell, you 397 00:16:58,388 --> 00:17:00,388 Speaker 1: know all the names on the back of the Jersey Club. 398 00:17:00,748 --> 00:17:02,148 Speaker 5: Is he the messiah to do that? 399 00:17:02,268 --> 00:17:04,068 Speaker 2: Because that would be absolutely incredible. 400 00:17:04,468 --> 00:17:07,588 Speaker 1: My wish is just goes someplace interesting, please, And I'm 401 00:17:07,588 --> 00:17:09,668 Speaker 1: not going to name the franchises that aren't that interesting. 402 00:17:09,708 --> 00:17:10,428 Speaker 5: You know who they are. 403 00:17:10,668 --> 00:17:13,788 Speaker 1: It's these two and the quarterback is fascinating. 404 00:17:13,828 --> 00:17:15,028 Speaker 5: Either one of these is final with me. 405 00:17:15,548 --> 00:17:15,748 Speaker 4: Yeah. 406 00:17:15,748 --> 00:17:18,708 Speaker 10: I think to me, Shador Sanders looks better in Cleveland. 407 00:17:18,868 --> 00:17:21,588 Speaker 10: I think that offensive line wise, Cleveland has set up 408 00:17:21,588 --> 00:17:22,268 Speaker 10: a little bit better. 409 00:17:22,628 --> 00:17:24,828 Speaker 2: Perennial Pro bowler and Joe Patonio. 410 00:17:24,468 --> 00:17:26,748 Speaker 10: Jack Conklin has been a guy who's been very consistent 411 00:17:27,148 --> 00:17:30,428 Speaker 10: year after year. Jerry Judy in that stretch with Jameis Winston, 412 00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:32,428 Speaker 10: I mean he was really going off. 413 00:17:32,668 --> 00:17:34,828 Speaker 4: Shador is a guy who's very accurate. He can air 414 00:17:34,868 --> 00:17:35,508 Speaker 4: that ball out. 415 00:17:35,548 --> 00:17:37,988 Speaker 10: You know you got some solid Batch and Drome Ford, 416 00:17:38,148 --> 00:17:40,068 Speaker 10: you got David and Jok who could be your security 417 00:17:40,068 --> 00:17:43,308 Speaker 10: blanket at tight end. I'm just not a believer in 418 00:17:43,308 --> 00:17:45,868 Speaker 10: that giant team. We know that rookies do a lot 419 00:17:45,988 --> 00:17:48,668 Speaker 10: better when they have a good defense. Cleveland has a 420 00:17:48,668 --> 00:17:52,108 Speaker 10: good defense. Their only question that quarterback last year. A 421 00:17:52,188 --> 00:17:54,708 Speaker 10: question on that team last year was that quarterback and Obviously, 422 00:17:54,788 --> 00:17:57,108 Speaker 10: Deshaun Watson has not been getting it done. I think 423 00:17:57,108 --> 00:17:59,348 Speaker 10: he's better in Cleveland in my opinion. 424 00:18:00,388 --> 00:18:02,268 Speaker 11: Do I just want to remind everybody, do we know 425 00:18:02,268 --> 00:18:05,988 Speaker 11: who Shador's father is? You would think that he wants 426 00:18:06,068 --> 00:18:09,428 Speaker 11: his son to play in Cleveland. It's a it's a 427 00:18:09,508 --> 00:18:11,508 Speaker 11: no if you don't know what the answer is. I 428 00:18:11,548 --> 00:18:14,308 Speaker 11: think he fits very well with the Giants. And again 429 00:18:14,348 --> 00:18:18,428 Speaker 11: I mentioned this earlier day Ball he came into a situation. 430 00:18:17,988 --> 00:18:21,548 Speaker 4: Where he inherited Daniel Jones. This was not his choice. 431 00:18:21,828 --> 00:18:24,188 Speaker 11: And you're dealing with the day Ball, who sees himself 432 00:18:24,228 --> 00:18:27,908 Speaker 11: as a quarterback producer. He's building quarterbacks, he builds greatness. 433 00:18:28,068 --> 00:18:30,628 Speaker 11: He's gonna want his guy. I think Shador fits so 434 00:18:30,708 --> 00:18:33,188 Speaker 11: well in this situation with the Giants. Not to mention 435 00:18:33,268 --> 00:18:36,708 Speaker 11: the market, I like the market for his dad. Excuse me, 436 00:18:36,788 --> 00:18:40,308 Speaker 11: I mean for Sudure. Yeah, for sure, Dore. It's just 437 00:18:40,348 --> 00:18:43,468 Speaker 11: a good situation for him. So I like him in 438 00:18:43,508 --> 00:18:44,588 Speaker 11: the Giants uniform. 439 00:18:44,748 --> 00:18:46,508 Speaker 3: We have a good Freudian slip on this show. 440 00:18:46,748 --> 00:18:49,628 Speaker 4: Yeah, but is it a good situation though? 441 00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:52,868 Speaker 10: Like I watched Sakwon Barkley in that New York Giants 442 00:18:52,868 --> 00:18:55,708 Speaker 10: offense and that offensive line is what you want. Like, 443 00:18:55,748 --> 00:18:58,828 Speaker 10: Shador is not Dione Sanders from an athletic standpoint, He's 444 00:18:58,828 --> 00:19:01,068 Speaker 10: not gonna be running out of the pocket out running DNS. 445 00:19:01,068 --> 00:19:02,388 Speaker 4: He doesn't have that type of speed. 446 00:19:02,828 --> 00:19:06,508 Speaker 10: We all know what the confidence what getting sacked a 447 00:19:06,508 --> 00:19:08,628 Speaker 10: bunch of times as a rookie can do for a 448 00:19:08,708 --> 00:19:09,628 Speaker 10: rookie's confidence. 449 00:19:09,868 --> 00:19:12,028 Speaker 2: It can be disaster over there in New York. 450 00:19:12,068 --> 00:19:14,708 Speaker 10: I don't think the offensive line questions are answered over there. 451 00:19:14,748 --> 00:19:17,188 Speaker 10: I just don't think he will be set up for success. 452 00:19:17,268 --> 00:19:19,428 Speaker 10: Then you add the New York media to that equation, 453 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,988 Speaker 10: plus the fact that there's already hate that he's getting 454 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:24,268 Speaker 10: left and right just because of Deon Sanders Sun, I 455 00:19:24,268 --> 00:19:27,868 Speaker 10: think New York Giants is an absolute disaster if goes there. 456 00:19:27,988 --> 00:19:30,508 Speaker 3: I mean it's really hard to call one organization a 457 00:19:30,548 --> 00:19:32,708 Speaker 3: disaster and then not look at the other one and 458 00:19:32,748 --> 00:19:35,068 Speaker 3: the t shirt of quarterbacks that have been through there too. 459 00:19:35,148 --> 00:19:37,948 Speaker 3: So it's been a challenging time at that position for 460 00:19:37,988 --> 00:19:38,908 Speaker 3: those organizations. 461 00:19:38,988 --> 00:19:41,668 Speaker 11: Yes, Isaac, Yeah, I mean, look I get it, I 462 00:19:41,668 --> 00:19:44,068 Speaker 11: get what you're saying. Let's look at Shador in college. 463 00:19:44,108 --> 00:19:46,188 Speaker 11: How many times was he sacked over the last two years. 464 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:48,148 Speaker 11: I think it was like ninety times he was sacked. 465 00:19:48,348 --> 00:19:50,508 Speaker 11: He's used to getting sacked, not saying that's what we want. 466 00:19:50,308 --> 00:19:51,468 Speaker 4: The standard to be in the NFL. 467 00:19:51,748 --> 00:19:54,628 Speaker 11: The Giants understand the picture that they need to create. 468 00:19:54,788 --> 00:19:57,148 Speaker 11: Do not think they're sitting around talking about their draft 469 00:19:57,148 --> 00:19:59,388 Speaker 11: picture and we need to build an O line. 470 00:19:59,428 --> 00:20:01,508 Speaker 4: We get to build a team around Shador. 471 00:20:01,628 --> 00:20:04,308 Speaker 11: And this market, I mean, this is the new norm 472 00:20:04,468 --> 00:20:07,188 Speaker 11: with the market and these guys wanting to take advantage 473 00:20:07,188 --> 00:20:08,748 Speaker 11: of it. You just got to get used to it. 474 00:20:09,748 --> 00:20:10,428 Speaker 4: Let me talk about it. 475 00:20:10,588 --> 00:20:14,228 Speaker 5: I'll ask you. You played for the Chargers. 476 00:20:14,788 --> 00:20:17,908 Speaker 1: Eli was sitting there and the Manning family decided, we 477 00:20:17,948 --> 00:20:19,028 Speaker 1: are not going to be a Charger. 478 00:20:19,068 --> 00:20:20,748 Speaker 5: We don't like what we see in that organization. 479 00:20:20,828 --> 00:20:23,948 Speaker 1: And they're always kind of talking about it in different phrases, 480 00:20:23,988 --> 00:20:26,588 Speaker 1: but they decided not to be You mentioned it, so 481 00:20:26,668 --> 00:20:29,668 Speaker 1: finish it. Can you see the Sanders family as a 482 00:20:29,708 --> 00:20:32,468 Speaker 1: group if Shador is drafted by the Cleveland Browns or 483 00:20:32,548 --> 00:20:34,388 Speaker 1: that they know is going to declining to play there 484 00:20:34,388 --> 00:20:35,548 Speaker 1: and pulling that power move. 485 00:20:35,428 --> 00:20:37,268 Speaker 4: And what would you think of it? Well, first off, 486 00:20:37,348 --> 00:20:40,668 Speaker 4: would I be surprised? No? Can I see it happening? Also? 487 00:20:40,788 --> 00:20:43,668 Speaker 11: No, I think just for the game and the reverence 488 00:20:43,708 --> 00:20:46,028 Speaker 11: of the game. I think Dion is smart enough to 489 00:20:46,108 --> 00:20:49,228 Speaker 11: understand that exists. I can't see him doing that, doing 490 00:20:49,268 --> 00:20:51,828 Speaker 11: something that extreme, but you know, maybe a tennis card. 491 00:20:52,308 --> 00:20:54,028 Speaker 4: He's got that personality. 492 00:20:55,028 --> 00:20:57,828 Speaker 9: I would just also add this the reports that he 493 00:20:58,028 --> 00:21:00,988 Speaker 9: was arrogant in brash you in meetings or was this 494 00:21:01,108 --> 00:21:02,108 Speaker 9: interested in meetings. 495 00:21:02,588 --> 00:21:04,348 Speaker 2: There are teams that will henry. 496 00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:07,308 Speaker 9: They have quarterbacks that might not have been even taking 497 00:21:07,348 --> 00:21:09,388 Speaker 9: their time in fifteen minutes. It's like, I owe Schador 498 00:21:09,428 --> 00:21:11,348 Speaker 9: Sanders that it was obviously that's fine, that's on the side. 499 00:21:11,388 --> 00:21:12,628 Speaker 4: She never treated me in that way. 500 00:21:13,068 --> 00:21:17,228 Speaker 9: However, we have no idea if Shador Sanders has already 501 00:21:17,228 --> 00:21:19,788 Speaker 9: been told by a team that hey, like just hang 502 00:21:19,868 --> 00:21:22,388 Speaker 9: tight like we got you, don't worry about it, and 503 00:21:22,388 --> 00:21:25,788 Speaker 9: that would totally change the tenor of all of this stuff. Now, 504 00:21:25,988 --> 00:21:28,308 Speaker 9: I can't confirm that a team has done that. It's 505 00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:30,948 Speaker 9: playing with fire unless you know for sure lockdown that 506 00:21:31,068 --> 00:21:32,428 Speaker 9: like a team is like, if you're on the board, 507 00:21:32,428 --> 00:21:34,828 Speaker 9: we got you, and they probably wouldn't do that in February. 508 00:21:35,348 --> 00:21:37,948 Speaker 9: But there are so many conversations being had behind the 509 00:21:37,948 --> 00:21:40,588 Speaker 9: scenes that we don't see, that aren't on podiums, and 510 00:21:40,588 --> 00:21:43,428 Speaker 9: that certainly aren't on Twitter from unverified accounts. 511 00:21:46,628 --> 00:21:48,668 Speaker 3: All Right, Jasic Coabin and I were just talking about 512 00:21:48,668 --> 00:21:51,108 Speaker 3: the definition of a fullback because in my twenty plus 513 00:21:51,148 --> 00:21:53,348 Speaker 3: years of watch in the NFL, I still am trying 514 00:21:53,388 --> 00:21:56,028 Speaker 3: to stick the landing on what is a fullback? Who 515 00:21:56,108 --> 00:21:58,308 Speaker 3: is that guy? But it's not just a how you're 516 00:21:58,348 --> 00:22:00,268 Speaker 3: built and what you do within an offense. There is 517 00:22:00,308 --> 00:22:03,668 Speaker 3: a mentality to playing fullback. So Cabinda's here, he played 518 00:22:03,668 --> 00:22:06,308 Speaker 3: fullback and line in the NFL. Jason, We're not just 519 00:22:06,348 --> 00:22:09,588 Speaker 3: going top five fullbacks. What are you top fiving for 520 00:22:09,708 --> 00:22:10,228 Speaker 3: us today? 521 00:22:10,268 --> 00:22:13,628 Speaker 10: We're doing top five guys who carry the fullback mentality 522 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:17,068 Speaker 10: to their positions, not necessarily fullbacks, but guys that have 523 00:22:17,108 --> 00:22:20,788 Speaker 10: a fullback mentality, guys that seek out contact, physicality for 524 00:22:20,828 --> 00:22:21,628 Speaker 10: the love of the game. 525 00:22:21,668 --> 00:22:23,468 Speaker 3: All right, let's go who is at number five? 526 00:22:23,668 --> 00:22:27,508 Speaker 10: Number five? We have actually a rookie, Malik Mustafa. I'm 527 00:22:27,508 --> 00:22:30,148 Speaker 10: only stay Brown talk about this guy on his podcast. 528 00:22:30,468 --> 00:22:34,308 Speaker 10: This guy is an absolute missile, always looking for contact. 529 00:22:34,468 --> 00:22:36,788 Speaker 10: I mean the guys like got two percent body fat, 530 00:22:36,988 --> 00:22:40,828 Speaker 10: I mean, fast, physical in the run game, TFLs, laying 531 00:22:40,828 --> 00:22:43,228 Speaker 10: out hits as a safety. I mean, this guy plays 532 00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:45,228 Speaker 10: the game the right way. I mean, look at this 533 00:22:45,348 --> 00:22:49,308 Speaker 10: dude diving for interceptions. He just makes it happen getting 534 00:22:49,308 --> 00:22:51,548 Speaker 10: the ball out here on trade McBride, I hate to 535 00:22:51,588 --> 00:22:53,228 Speaker 10: even put a rookie on here, but when I saw 536 00:22:53,268 --> 00:22:56,188 Speaker 10: this guy on tape, he was so physically impressive that 537 00:22:56,228 --> 00:22:58,108 Speaker 10: I just absolutely could not leave him. 538 00:22:58,028 --> 00:22:58,388 Speaker 4: Off the list. 539 00:22:58,428 --> 00:23:00,228 Speaker 3: Well, he's got a rookie anymore. He's got one tree's 540 00:23:00,308 --> 00:23:02,668 Speaker 3: under adults, we can call him a sophomore. At number 541 00:23:02,668 --> 00:23:05,628 Speaker 3: five on your fullback mentality list, number four, I know 542 00:23:05,668 --> 00:23:06,748 Speaker 3: Peter's going to like this one. 543 00:23:06,828 --> 00:23:09,508 Speaker 10: Number four is Vita Vea, and this guy has such 544 00:23:09,548 --> 00:23:10,508 Speaker 10: a fullback mentality. 545 00:23:10,548 --> 00:23:11,828 Speaker 4: He's a defensive tackle. 546 00:23:12,108 --> 00:23:14,908 Speaker 10: He actually does get used as a fullback in their 547 00:23:14,948 --> 00:23:18,988 Speaker 10: offense in goal line and shorten down in distance situations. 548 00:23:19,948 --> 00:23:23,108 Speaker 10: Nose tackle bulldozes through the center and the guard gets 549 00:23:23,108 --> 00:23:25,708 Speaker 10: plenty of sacks. I mean, absolute run stopper. This guy 550 00:23:25,788 --> 00:23:29,628 Speaker 10: is unblockable, super physical and athletic at the size of 551 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:31,268 Speaker 10: three and forty pounds. 552 00:23:31,308 --> 00:23:32,068 Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? 553 00:23:32,428 --> 00:23:34,388 Speaker 10: Who the heck stopping this guy coming through the goal 554 00:23:34,428 --> 00:23:37,308 Speaker 10: line on the one yard line? Absolutely nobody, And I 555 00:23:37,348 --> 00:23:40,028 Speaker 10: think his conversion rate on the goal line is a 556 00:23:40,268 --> 00:23:40,988 Speaker 10: crazy numb. 557 00:23:41,068 --> 00:23:43,188 Speaker 3: I mean the grip strength on anybody to get a 558 00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:44,868 Speaker 3: hold of a jersey and hang on as I put 559 00:23:44,908 --> 00:23:48,548 Speaker 3: to get on the homes. That's wild, all right. Number three, 560 00:23:48,828 --> 00:23:51,028 Speaker 3: this guy is like Sneaky my favorite player in the 561 00:23:51,108 --> 00:23:51,708 Speaker 3: NFC West. 562 00:23:51,788 --> 00:23:54,148 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy I absolutely love. 563 00:23:54,188 --> 00:23:56,188 Speaker 10: I've had the chance to play against him plenty of times. 564 00:23:56,188 --> 00:23:59,148 Speaker 10: Plays the game the right way, Buddha Baker, let's go. 565 00:23:59,428 --> 00:24:02,588 Speaker 10: This dude plays the game with his hair on fire 566 00:24:02,668 --> 00:24:05,668 Speaker 10: and contributes to the defense and any in every way, 567 00:24:05,788 --> 00:24:08,988 Speaker 10: whether it's blitzing the quarterback, whether it's making TFOs behind 568 00:24:09,028 --> 00:24:10,948 Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage. You see him there getting down 569 00:24:11,028 --> 00:24:13,308 Speaker 10: David Montgomery, a great running back. You see him getting 570 00:24:13,308 --> 00:24:14,188 Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers. 571 00:24:14,228 --> 00:24:14,388 Speaker 4: Like. 572 00:24:14,548 --> 00:24:16,428 Speaker 10: This guy plays with his hair on fire, and you 573 00:24:16,428 --> 00:24:17,988 Speaker 10: can tell you the type of dude who's been playing 574 00:24:18,068 --> 00:24:20,708 Speaker 10: this game this exact same way for all of his light. 575 00:24:21,228 --> 00:24:24,268 Speaker 10: Every single time he is on the field, he is 576 00:24:24,388 --> 00:24:26,268 Speaker 10: coming for you. You don't care who you are, you 577 00:24:26,268 --> 00:24:28,308 Speaker 10: don't care how big you are, and he's not that big, 578 00:24:28,468 --> 00:24:30,508 Speaker 10: but man, he plays with a big heart, and that's 579 00:24:30,588 --> 00:24:33,348 Speaker 10: what the game is all about. Man, Buddha Baker, absolutely 580 00:24:33,468 --> 00:24:34,868 Speaker 10: love this dude right here. 581 00:24:34,948 --> 00:24:37,148 Speaker 3: I like that at five and four, you would have thought, oh, 582 00:24:37,148 --> 00:24:39,268 Speaker 3: we're going with a certain body type, and then you 583 00:24:39,348 --> 00:24:41,228 Speaker 3: hit us with the Buddha baker, which you said, it's 584 00:24:41,308 --> 00:24:44,788 Speaker 3: changes the stature of the full back mentality. So where 585 00:24:44,788 --> 00:24:45,788 Speaker 3: do you go with number two? 586 00:24:46,148 --> 00:24:47,708 Speaker 10: Number two, we are going to go with a guy 587 00:24:47,948 --> 00:24:51,388 Speaker 10: also really love also lines up sometimes in the backfield. 588 00:24:51,388 --> 00:24:55,868 Speaker 10: But George Kittle another do it all guy, absolutely selfless 589 00:24:55,868 --> 00:24:57,788 Speaker 10: because as a fullback, you gotta be selfless. You don't 590 00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,748 Speaker 10: care what the stats, you don't care if you get catches, 591 00:24:59,868 --> 00:25:01,868 Speaker 10: you don't care if all you gotta do all. 592 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:03,708 Speaker 2: Game is get pancakes. 593 00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:06,468 Speaker 10: Like this guy does gaming and game out. He wants 594 00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:09,388 Speaker 10: to freaking finish you, whether you're a linebacker or you're 595 00:25:09,428 --> 00:25:12,148 Speaker 10: a defensive end on the line of scrimmage. I absolutely 596 00:25:12,228 --> 00:25:14,348 Speaker 10: love the way this dude plays a game of football. 597 00:25:14,348 --> 00:25:15,748 Speaker 5: And look how much fun this guy has. 598 00:25:16,068 --> 00:25:18,828 Speaker 10: I mean, he's celebrating whether he's scoring a touchdown, whether 599 00:25:18,828 --> 00:25:21,188 Speaker 10: he's getting a first down, or whether he's putting somebody 600 00:25:21,268 --> 00:25:23,668 Speaker 10: in the dirt. And that is what the fullback mentality 601 00:25:24,028 --> 00:25:27,148 Speaker 10: is all about. George Kittle, shout out to you at 602 00:25:27,188 --> 00:25:29,308 Speaker 10: the tight end group. Man, you play with a fullback mentality. 603 00:25:29,388 --> 00:25:32,148 Speaker 3: I mean, Denzel told us football is fun, especially if 604 00:25:32,188 --> 00:25:33,868 Speaker 3: you're a fullback. Is the end of that quote. And 605 00:25:33,868 --> 00:25:35,628 Speaker 3: remember the Titans. Who is number one on your list? 606 00:25:35,748 --> 00:25:38,508 Speaker 10: And number one we've got an absolute freak of nature. 607 00:25:38,588 --> 00:25:40,268 Speaker 10: I got the chance to play with this guy for 608 00:25:40,308 --> 00:25:44,388 Speaker 10: a few years, Pine Sewel. This dude is the type 609 00:25:44,388 --> 00:25:46,668 Speaker 10: of guy when you see him in practice, you just 610 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:47,628 Speaker 10: say to yourself. 611 00:25:47,348 --> 00:25:49,428 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I'm so glad he's on. 612 00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,588 Speaker 10: Our team because when you see this guy block and 613 00:25:52,708 --> 00:25:55,588 Speaker 10: good dudes through the ground, not on the ground, through 614 00:25:55,628 --> 00:25:57,788 Speaker 10: the ground. That's the type of mentality he has. He 615 00:25:57,828 --> 00:26:00,348 Speaker 10: has great feet, he's a great athlete. I mean what 616 00:26:00,468 --> 00:26:02,868 Speaker 10: offensive line mean. Do you know lines up at wide 617 00:26:02,868 --> 00:26:05,708 Speaker 10: receiver and actually catches up hats for a first down. 618 00:26:05,988 --> 00:26:07,868 Speaker 10: That's a type of stuff that Ben Johnson was doing 619 00:26:07,868 --> 00:26:10,908 Speaker 10: this with this guy because he can absolutely. 620 00:26:10,428 --> 00:26:13,948 Speaker 2: Do it all. He is nasty, plays the game with attitude. 621 00:26:14,068 --> 00:26:15,948 Speaker 10: I remember a clip when I saw him holding up 622 00:26:15,948 --> 00:26:18,628 Speaker 10: Aaron Donald his rookie year and he wasn't backing down 623 00:26:18,628 --> 00:26:21,308 Speaker 10: to anybody. That's a type of do Penee sewell is 624 00:26:21,508 --> 00:26:23,988 Speaker 10: And man, if you're on the opposing team, look out 625 00:26:24,028 --> 00:26:27,548 Speaker 10: because he is a twent willions type of nasty offensive 626 00:26:27,548 --> 00:26:28,548 Speaker 10: lineman over at tackle. 627 00:26:29,028 --> 00:26:31,588 Speaker 3: I love this list. We've never had a list like this. 628 00:26:31,788 --> 00:26:34,668 Speaker 3: You took a position, you went with the definition of it, 629 00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:36,308 Speaker 3: and then you slapped his top five on it, and 630 00:26:36,308 --> 00:26:37,628 Speaker 3: here we are. You're probably your. 631 00:26:37,588 --> 00:26:38,668 Speaker 2: Listaul I love it. 632 00:26:38,748 --> 00:26:39,268 Speaker 4: I love it. 633 00:26:39,388 --> 00:26:43,388 Speaker 10: Pene sewel Man absolute dog pro bowler and gonna be 634 00:26:43,428 --> 00:26:44,428 Speaker 10: a perennial pro bowler. 635 00:26:44,468 --> 00:26:46,628 Speaker 4: I would say for the next seven attends. 636 00:26:46,668 --> 00:26:49,828 Speaker 3: Kyle, our resident historian on Fullbacks your thoughts. 637 00:26:51,268 --> 00:26:53,468 Speaker 1: We see a lot of top five lists. This was 638 00:26:53,508 --> 00:26:55,748 Speaker 1: a great one. This was special, This was original. I 639 00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:58,148 Speaker 1: like seeing Malik Lustafan and a player that strikes me 640 00:26:58,148 --> 00:27:00,188 Speaker 1: as someone who should have been playing in the seventies 641 00:27:00,308 --> 00:27:02,108 Speaker 1: or the eighties, but he's still. 642 00:27:01,828 --> 00:27:02,428 Speaker 5: Doing his thing. 643 00:27:03,468 --> 00:27:07,108 Speaker 1: Pennae Sewell is the rare, rare offensive lineman on our 644 00:27:07,148 --> 00:27:09,428 Speaker 1: program to win Angry runs, and he did it in 645 00:27:09,508 --> 00:27:13,388 Speaker 1: such glorious fashion. We got such a kick out of it. Copinda, 646 00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:15,628 Speaker 1: just tell us what we don't know about Sewol. 647 00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:16,868 Speaker 5: We see he's powerful a lot. 648 00:27:16,948 --> 00:27:17,228 Speaker 4: Love this. 649 00:27:17,588 --> 00:27:19,428 Speaker 1: Take us in the locker room, talk about this play. 650 00:27:19,508 --> 00:27:20,908 Speaker 5: Just talk Sewol. You can't be wrong. 651 00:27:21,028 --> 00:27:23,788 Speaker 10: Today was actually supposed to throw the ball on this play, Like, 652 00:27:23,828 --> 00:27:25,828 Speaker 10: what off is the lineman? Have you ever seen get 653 00:27:25,948 --> 00:27:30,228 Speaker 10: schemed up to throw a freaking past? That's how athletic 654 00:27:30,268 --> 00:27:33,268 Speaker 10: this guy is. On a football field, he legitimately can 655 00:27:33,388 --> 00:27:34,068 Speaker 10: do anything. 656 00:27:34,148 --> 00:27:35,228 Speaker 4: He has soft hands. 657 00:27:35,428 --> 00:27:37,468 Speaker 10: But in the run game, my goodness, he's got some 658 00:27:37,508 --> 00:27:38,108 Speaker 10: bear paws. 659 00:27:38,348 --> 00:27:41,228 Speaker 11: He's gonna put them on you. 660 00:27:41,508 --> 00:27:44,268 Speaker 4: Geez a sel well a doll. 661 00:27:44,828 --> 00:27:45,668 Speaker 2: I love this dude. 662 00:27:45,748 --> 00:27:48,508 Speaker 9: I also love vitevea quick story if you want to 663 00:27:48,508 --> 00:27:50,668 Speaker 9: make it personal, which we always do on our show. 664 00:27:50,948 --> 00:27:54,548 Speaker 9: The Bucks were doing their creamsicle jerseys and they reached 665 00:27:54,588 --> 00:27:56,348 Speaker 9: out to the show and said, Okay, do you guys 666 00:27:56,348 --> 00:27:59,108 Speaker 9: want Mike Evans, do you want Baker Mayfield? I said, 667 00:27:59,188 --> 00:28:00,708 Speaker 9: I don't know if it's possible, but can I get 668 00:28:00,748 --> 00:28:05,148 Speaker 9: a Vita Veya creamsicle jersey? They're like, yeah, there is 669 00:28:05,188 --> 00:28:07,948 Speaker 9: no other players jersey I wear around the house or 670 00:28:07,988 --> 00:28:10,988 Speaker 9: around Brooklyn, New York, more than just my Vita Vea creamsicle. 671 00:28:11,308 --> 00:28:13,588 Speaker 2: I love embodying the Vitavea. 672 00:28:13,068 --> 00:28:17,388 Speaker 9: And I think he embodies the fullback mentality perfectly Well done, Jason. 673 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:19,428 Speaker 3: Covinda, Isaac your thoughts on the list. 674 00:28:19,828 --> 00:28:23,028 Speaker 11: I really just wanted to see a Jason Cobnda clips slip. 675 00:28:22,788 --> 00:28:24,748 Speaker 4: In there like can we have just put you in five? 676 00:28:24,988 --> 00:28:26,668 Speaker 4: Just because just for fun? 677 00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:27,188 Speaker 3: Honorable. 678 00:28:27,668 --> 00:28:31,028 Speaker 11: Here's my question, though, is this the future of full back? 679 00:28:31,108 --> 00:28:33,868 Speaker 11: Talk like the mentality and not the actual position. Because 680 00:28:33,868 --> 00:28:37,708 Speaker 11: I'm looking around the league. You see Yushek just got released, 681 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:40,908 Speaker 11: which you know the forty nine Ers community was devastated 682 00:28:40,948 --> 00:28:43,148 Speaker 11: by that, I think because they also love his wife. 683 00:28:43,308 --> 00:28:46,348 Speaker 11: But what is the future of the full back position? 684 00:28:46,828 --> 00:28:47,068 Speaker 4: Yeah? 685 00:28:47,148 --> 00:28:49,588 Speaker 10: I think the full back position has been revolutionized by 686 00:28:49,588 --> 00:28:51,268 Speaker 10: guys like Jews, by guys like c J. 687 00:28:51,428 --> 00:28:52,828 Speaker 4: Ham who can do it all, who. 688 00:28:52,668 --> 00:28:54,708 Speaker 10: Could come in on third down and pass protect, who 689 00:28:54,708 --> 00:28:56,548 Speaker 10: can catch passes out of the backfield. 690 00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:57,588 Speaker 4: We've seen guys like. 691 00:28:57,548 --> 00:29:00,348 Speaker 10: This or become more athletic at the position, and we 692 00:29:00,428 --> 00:29:02,828 Speaker 10: still have the traditional guys like the pat Riccards, like 693 00:29:02,868 --> 00:29:05,108 Speaker 10: a guy like Vita Vea there at goal line and 694 00:29:05,148 --> 00:29:07,548 Speaker 10: short down and distance. But I think when you have 695 00:29:07,588 --> 00:29:09,788 Speaker 10: an athletic fullback, there's just so much you can do 696 00:29:09,868 --> 00:29:11,828 Speaker 10: with him at the f You can split him out wide, 697 00:29:11,828 --> 00:29:13,668 Speaker 10: you can have him as a cupcake tight end, you 698 00:29:13,668 --> 00:29:15,308 Speaker 10: can put him in the backfield, you can line them 699 00:29:15,388 --> 00:29:17,468 Speaker 10: up at running back. I mean there's just so much 700 00:29:17,508 --> 00:29:19,548 Speaker 10: you can do with them. And I think the fullbacks, 701 00:29:19,588 --> 00:29:21,868 Speaker 10: and especially even the alec ingoles, the fullbacks who are 702 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:24,908 Speaker 10: more versatile in that sense, are now looking looked at 703 00:29:24,948 --> 00:29:28,668 Speaker 10: as more like chess pieces than necessarily your traditional. 704 00:29:28,148 --> 00:29:30,628 Speaker 4: Fullback of the old days of the eighties and nineties. 705 00:29:30,668 --> 00:29:32,068 Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, Isaac. 706 00:29:31,908 --> 00:29:33,228 Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say, I'll tell you this. 707 00:29:33,348 --> 00:29:36,428 Speaker 11: As a defensive lineman, when I'm game planning for an offense, 708 00:29:36,748 --> 00:29:40,908 Speaker 11: there's nothing worse than an offense that efficiently uses a fullback. 709 00:29:41,188 --> 00:29:43,348 Speaker 11: I mean, it's literally the nightmare because they can use 710 00:29:43,388 --> 00:29:46,548 Speaker 11: them for disguises, they can use them to run right 711 00:29:46,588 --> 00:29:49,708 Speaker 11: through you and block you, they can go out for 712 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:51,908 Speaker 11: a path, like, there's so many things that they can do. 713 00:29:52,028 --> 00:29:54,628 Speaker 11: So it's really a position that I wish was more 714 00:29:54,628 --> 00:29:56,548 Speaker 11: prevalent because it's a threat. 715 00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:57,068 Speaker 4: It's tough. 716 00:29:57,108 --> 00:29:58,868 Speaker 3: Do you want to line up and be like, hey, guy, 717 00:29:59,188 --> 00:30:02,308 Speaker 3: what are you doing this down? Because it's an absolute 718 00:30:02,308 --> 00:30:02,868 Speaker 3: mystery to. 719 00:30:02,828 --> 00:30:06,348 Speaker 11: You, totally Yeah, can you guys just give me your yeah? 720 00:30:06,388 --> 00:30:07,428 Speaker 4: Yeahah yeah. 721 00:30:07,988 --> 00:30:10,548 Speaker 11: And you see these offenses that use them, it helps 722 00:30:10,548 --> 00:30:10,868 Speaker 11: a ton. 723 00:30:11,068 --> 00:30:13,108 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's not easy to find good ones, you know. 724 00:30:13,148 --> 00:30:15,188 Speaker 10: And I think when you put a fullback on the field. 725 00:30:15,308 --> 00:30:17,228 Speaker 4: It dictates what the defense has to do. 726 00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:20,148 Speaker 10: You gotta go base when you have a fullback on 727 00:30:20,228 --> 00:30:22,308 Speaker 10: the field, and when you have a fullback that can run. 728 00:30:22,268 --> 00:30:23,508 Speaker 4: Routes like Kyle Juice. 729 00:30:23,868 --> 00:30:27,428 Speaker 10: Like now you're out here creating some mismatches in the 730 00:30:27,468 --> 00:30:29,828 Speaker 10: past game when you have base personnel on the field 731 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,268 Speaker 10: and you're expecting some type of ISO or you know, 732 00:30:32,428 --> 00:30:35,028 Speaker 10: lead zone or whatever the case is. So I love 733 00:30:35,148 --> 00:30:37,988 Speaker 10: the fullback position and what it can do for an offense. 734 00:30:37,668 --> 00:30:38,548 Speaker 4: If you've got a good one. 735 00:30:38,588 --> 00:30:41,508 Speaker 3: Sometimes my eyes can glaze over with too much football talk, 736 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:43,748 Speaker 3: but I've never been more intrigued by the cupcake tight end. 737 00:30:43,828 --> 00:30:45,548 Speaker 3: Coming up on, I'm going to do a top five 738 00:30:45,588 --> 00:30:46,508 Speaker 3: cupcake tight ends. 739 00:30:46,508 --> 00:30:46,988 Speaker 2: What is that? 740 00:30:47,068 --> 00:30:48,708 Speaker 3: I need the definition of it, and we're going to 741 00:30:48,748 --> 00:30:51,828 Speaker 3: figure it out with Jason Cremer. The top five cupcakes 742 00:30:51,988 --> 00:30:55,788 Speaker 3: and an off season thing that feels like a June segment. Oh, 743 00:30:55,868 --> 00:30:58,188 Speaker 3: Smortes is where it's at. I like when the frosting 744 00:30:58,308 --> 00:31:00,268 Speaker 3: is actually in the middle of the cupcake. Look at 745 00:31:00,268 --> 00:31:03,388 Speaker 3: Piney Sewell, oh my god, there he is number one 746 00:31:03,668 --> 00:31:05,588 Speaker 3: fullback for men to Jackson. 747 00:31:07,228 --> 00:31:10,268 Speaker 5: Make that the league logo. That's our Jerry West. 748 00:31:15,548 --> 00:31:17,668 Speaker 1: Understand this if you're a young person, if you're gen 749 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:21,708 Speaker 1: Z red Rover. Red Rover is a game of weaponized 750 00:31:21,708 --> 00:31:23,468 Speaker 1: closed lines on the playground. 751 00:31:23,468 --> 00:31:24,868 Speaker 5: You would line up with one. 752 00:31:24,628 --> 00:31:27,548 Speaker 1: Side, like it's the damned Civil War versus you know, 753 00:31:27,628 --> 00:31:29,548 Speaker 1: the North and the South, and you'd line up and 754 00:31:29,588 --> 00:31:32,588 Speaker 1: hold hands and you'd make a whole line, and then you'd. 755 00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,988 Speaker 2: Say, red Rover, send Anthony on over. 756 00:31:35,308 --> 00:31:40,628 Speaker 12: Anthony, with a fifty yard head start would sprint into 757 00:31:40,788 --> 00:31:44,188 Speaker 12: your hands to try to break the tie, which either 758 00:31:44,308 --> 00:31:47,748 Speaker 12: he injured your wrist or was completely closed line and 759 00:31:47,828 --> 00:31:51,428 Speaker 12: nearly decapitated. Honestly, I think there's something in me that 760 00:31:51,628 --> 00:31:54,028 Speaker 12: really Red Rover is the original story for angry runs 761 00:31:54,068 --> 00:31:54,308 Speaker 12: Like that. 762 00:31:54,388 --> 00:31:56,548 Speaker 5: Was me back in like nineteen eighty nine. 763 00:31:56,788 --> 00:31:59,108 Speaker 1: And right now they're like Dodgeball doesn't exist anymore. 764 00:31:59,148 --> 00:31:59,748 Speaker 5: It's too violent. 765 00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:02,628 Speaker 2: Red Rover made Dodgeball look like a snugglefest. 766 00:32:04,468 --> 00:32:06,748 Speaker 3: Great, Kyle, listen. I talk to my mom every day 767 00:32:06,748 --> 00:32:09,348 Speaker 3: after the show. Oftentimes it's about her grandkids. Yesterday it 768 00:32:09,388 --> 00:32:11,108 Speaker 3: was her takes on Red Rover. We do not care 769 00:32:11,148 --> 00:32:14,388 Speaker 3: about resonating with the young crowd anymore. That take on 770 00:32:14,428 --> 00:32:16,988 Speaker 3: Red Rover yesterday, Kyle, it reached generations, and so we 771 00:32:17,028 --> 00:32:20,028 Speaker 3: appreciate that on GMFB, and it also lent us to 772 00:32:20,028 --> 00:32:23,228 Speaker 3: our conversation today, players that we are going to call 773 00:32:23,308 --> 00:32:26,548 Speaker 3: out around the league that we think will break through 774 00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:29,748 Speaker 3: in their red rover fifty yard head start into their 775 00:32:29,828 --> 00:32:32,748 Speaker 3: line opposing line next season. Each have to pick a 776 00:32:32,748 --> 00:32:35,828 Speaker 3: player in the NFL, and you think this guy will 777 00:32:36,108 --> 00:32:37,948 Speaker 3: win the battle when it comes to one on run 778 00:32:37,988 --> 00:32:41,388 Speaker 3: playing red rover next season in twenty twenty five. You guys, ready, 779 00:32:42,188 --> 00:32:42,628 Speaker 3: here we go. 780 00:32:42,708 --> 00:32:43,828 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go all right over. 781 00:32:45,548 --> 00:32:46,268 Speaker 2: Who do we. 782 00:32:46,148 --> 00:32:48,788 Speaker 3: Think is going to Peter You're gonna have a breakthrough 783 00:32:48,868 --> 00:32:49,708 Speaker 3: season next year? 784 00:32:50,988 --> 00:32:53,628 Speaker 9: Okay, well, we have the Manning brothers, we have the 785 00:32:53,668 --> 00:32:54,548 Speaker 9: Bosa brothers. 786 00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:56,748 Speaker 2: I'm going with two different players. 787 00:32:56,428 --> 00:32:59,388 Speaker 9: Who I think are both going to have huge breakout 788 00:32:59,428 --> 00:33:02,348 Speaker 9: seasons next year because of the workload they're going to get, 789 00:33:02,508 --> 00:33:04,508 Speaker 9: because the opportunity that have been given to them. 790 00:33:04,868 --> 00:33:08,708 Speaker 2: I'm going with Chase and Sidney Brown. I like it 791 00:33:08,748 --> 00:33:10,308 Speaker 2: our Canadian twin. 792 00:33:10,148 --> 00:33:12,908 Speaker 9: Brothers who I think both are going to breaks through 793 00:33:12,948 --> 00:33:15,788 Speaker 9: next year. Chase Brown is the running back for the 794 00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:18,548 Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals on a team that is going to be 795 00:33:18,628 --> 00:33:20,948 Speaker 9: throwing the ball over because I do believe Jamar, Chase 796 00:33:20,988 --> 00:33:23,628 Speaker 9: and Tiggins. We figured out and they did not bring 797 00:33:23,628 --> 00:33:26,788 Speaker 9: in one of these veteran running backs to challenge Chase Brown. 798 00:33:26,828 --> 00:33:30,428 Speaker 9: Why Chase Brown was awesome last year? Chase Brown filled 799 00:33:30,428 --> 00:33:32,828 Speaker 9: in for Joe Mixon and then was actually better in 800 00:33:32,908 --> 00:33:34,028 Speaker 9: that Bengals offense. 801 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:35,268 Speaker 5: His brother. 802 00:33:35,708 --> 00:33:38,828 Speaker 9: His brother is Sidney Brown, who just saw the entire 803 00:33:38,948 --> 00:33:43,468 Speaker 9: Eagles veteran defensive backfield be either cut, traded or let 804 00:33:43,508 --> 00:33:44,708 Speaker 9: walk in free agency. 805 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:48,908 Speaker 2: James Bradberry's not back. We know that Chauncey. 806 00:33:48,468 --> 00:33:52,348 Speaker 9: Gardner Johnson's not back, and of course Isaiah Rodgers and 807 00:33:52,428 --> 00:33:55,828 Speaker 9: Darius Slay are not coming back either. Insert Sidney Brown, 808 00:33:56,068 --> 00:33:59,468 Speaker 9: who they believe in, they really like in Philly. He 809 00:33:59,628 --> 00:34:01,948 Speaker 9: just didn't get the same playing time because of that 810 00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:03,708 Speaker 9: loaded defensive backfield. 811 00:34:04,028 --> 00:34:08,028 Speaker 2: I've got the brothers Brown both both. 812 00:34:07,908 --> 00:34:11,948 Speaker 9: Being breakout players next year. Chase and Sidney, enjoy your 813 00:34:11,948 --> 00:34:13,788 Speaker 9: off season, come ready to play because I think they're 814 00:34:13,788 --> 00:34:15,308 Speaker 9: gonna be household names next season. 815 00:34:15,668 --> 00:34:18,348 Speaker 5: That's a Super Bowl matchup that would be fun. Peter, 816 00:34:18,588 --> 00:34:20,388 Speaker 5: would you say you belong to a hive? Is there 817 00:34:20,428 --> 00:34:21,508 Speaker 5: a hive you belong to? 818 00:34:21,668 --> 00:34:23,588 Speaker 1: Like something online that you just love and like I'm 819 00:34:23,588 --> 00:34:24,828 Speaker 1: in Are you in the White Lotus Hive. 820 00:34:24,908 --> 00:34:26,148 Speaker 2: I'm in the White Lotus Hive. 821 00:34:26,388 --> 00:34:27,828 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to join a hive. 822 00:34:27,908 --> 00:34:28,828 Speaker 2: What HI you want to be on? 823 00:34:28,868 --> 00:34:30,468 Speaker 5: All right, So there's a hive out there. 824 00:34:31,188 --> 00:34:34,388 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about joining the Joshua Palmer high Let's go 825 00:34:34,668 --> 00:34:38,348 Speaker 1: right or Lobsky's in it. Craig hullerback from Spotify's I'm 826 00:34:38,348 --> 00:34:41,308 Speaker 1: thinking about joining the Joshua Palmer hive now that he 827 00:34:41,308 --> 00:34:44,868 Speaker 1: has joined Buffalo. This is a very very important transaction 828 00:34:45,028 --> 00:34:48,268 Speaker 1: because the Bills do not need him to beyond reread. 829 00:34:48,348 --> 00:34:49,988 Speaker 1: They really need him to make like a couple of 830 00:34:50,068 --> 00:34:52,228 Speaker 1: plays in a playoff game. Everything the Bills do in 831 00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:54,868 Speaker 1: terms of adding players, whether it be Bosa or Palmer's like, 832 00:34:55,188 --> 00:34:57,948 Speaker 1: just give us that special play in that playoff game 833 00:34:57,948 --> 00:34:59,468 Speaker 1: that you know we're going to be in. And the 834 00:34:59,468 --> 00:35:03,148 Speaker 1: Palmer Hive is fascinating because the let's dive into the 835 00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:05,748 Speaker 1: tape crowd. They love him and they will talk to 836 00:35:05,748 --> 00:35:08,628 Speaker 1: you about his route win rate and all that stuff 837 00:35:08,668 --> 00:35:11,148 Speaker 1: where maybe the massive statistics had never been there with 838 00:35:11,188 --> 00:35:13,108 Speaker 1: the Chargers, the talents, the. 839 00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:15,348 Speaker 5: Separation, all of that is there. 840 00:35:15,948 --> 00:35:17,948 Speaker 1: And just show up and make a few plays for 841 00:35:18,028 --> 00:35:20,508 Speaker 1: josh Allen who when he starts his season as the 842 00:35:20,508 --> 00:35:23,508 Speaker 1: reigning MVP, We'll break the huddle with his wide receivers, 843 00:35:23,668 --> 00:35:28,148 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, and Joshua Palmer. That is a 844 00:35:28,228 --> 00:35:30,668 Speaker 1: crew that has a ton of potential and outside of 845 00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:34,468 Speaker 1: Shakir does not have that production. If he becomes something, 846 00:35:34,748 --> 00:35:36,268 Speaker 1: and a lot of people will know a lot about 847 00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:38,788 Speaker 1: football will tell you that he will, the Bills have 848 00:35:38,908 --> 00:35:41,788 Speaker 1: something very special. And if he becomes nothing, we might 849 00:35:41,868 --> 00:35:43,988 Speaker 1: be doing the same thing over and over where we 850 00:35:44,028 --> 00:35:45,468 Speaker 1: need some of the stuff and make a play. 851 00:35:45,228 --> 00:35:45,788 Speaker 5: And they don't. 852 00:35:46,188 --> 00:35:48,108 Speaker 1: I haven't joined the hive yet, but I'm feeling out 853 00:35:48,148 --> 00:35:50,228 Speaker 1: my application. I may submit it. I've seen a little 854 00:35:50,228 --> 00:35:52,748 Speaker 1: more time. But that's my guy, the Joshua Palmer Hive. 855 00:35:52,788 --> 00:35:54,068 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how it is, Kyle. 856 00:35:54,108 --> 00:35:55,948 Speaker 3: We got the Swifties, we got the bee Hive. What 857 00:35:55,988 --> 00:35:57,948 Speaker 3: about like the palm pods? Like, what do you think 858 00:35:57,948 --> 00:35:59,588 Speaker 3: about that? As a crime? 859 00:35:59,908 --> 00:36:02,628 Speaker 1: I'm in and we need more pods in the world, 860 00:36:02,708 --> 00:36:03,788 Speaker 1: So that sounds perfect. 861 00:36:08,508 --> 00:36:11,708 Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with second year player who just got 862 00:36:11,708 --> 00:36:17,508 Speaker 10: given the keys to Atlanta, Michael Pennix, junior at quarterback. 863 00:36:17,868 --> 00:36:19,588 Speaker 2: I mean comes in as a rookie. 864 00:36:19,708 --> 00:36:21,308 Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know if I've seen a rookie 865 00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:24,588 Speaker 10: have more adversity during a college career. Has all first 866 00:36:24,948 --> 00:36:28,708 Speaker 10: four of this seasons at Indiana University ended because of injury. 867 00:36:28,908 --> 00:36:31,748 Speaker 10: He transfers to Washington and we all saw that miraculous 868 00:36:31,868 --> 00:36:34,868 Speaker 10: run they made. He becomes the first team All Americans, 869 00:36:34,988 --> 00:36:38,348 Speaker 10: second and Heisman voting. He ends up replacing Kirk Cousins 870 00:36:38,388 --> 00:36:40,668 Speaker 10: last year and looks pretty damn good. And he's got 871 00:36:40,668 --> 00:36:43,588 Speaker 10: some pieces around him. He's got darn All Mooney, He's 872 00:36:43,628 --> 00:36:46,788 Speaker 10: got Kyle Pitts, he's got Drake London and a great 873 00:36:46,948 --> 00:36:49,748 Speaker 10: explosive running back in but John Robinson, I think this 874 00:36:49,748 --> 00:36:51,548 Speaker 10: guy is set up for success, and this will be 875 00:36:51,628 --> 00:36:54,108 Speaker 10: his first year with the keys to the city and 876 00:36:54,108 --> 00:36:56,868 Speaker 10: the keys to this offense. I think Michael Pennock Junior 877 00:36:56,948 --> 00:36:58,108 Speaker 10: is going to ball. 878 00:36:57,908 --> 00:36:59,108 Speaker 5: Out in Atlanta next year. 879 00:36:59,268 --> 00:37:01,828 Speaker 11: Red Rover, I have to say, speaking of Red Rover, 880 00:37:01,908 --> 00:37:03,188 Speaker 11: I have to say this real quick. I don't know 881 00:37:03,268 --> 00:37:06,028 Speaker 11: it's better Kyle describing Red Rover. Are you looking at 882 00:37:06,108 --> 00:37:09,668 Speaker 11: Dan Campbell, It's like, I mean, the intensity is legit. Yeah, 883 00:37:09,668 --> 00:37:12,668 Speaker 11: But my pick, he's gonna love this. He's a new 884 00:37:12,668 --> 00:37:15,948 Speaker 11: girl Dad Roberts. Fulane with the Patriots. I think he 885 00:37:16,068 --> 00:37:19,268 Speaker 11: is such as come right, I love this guy. I mean, 886 00:37:19,308 --> 00:37:22,148 Speaker 11: the way that he plays it's so I mean, he's 887 00:37:22,188 --> 00:37:24,388 Speaker 11: really slept on. I mean this guy, he's had over 888 00:37:24,388 --> 00:37:26,828 Speaker 11: one hundred and forty tackles each season in the last 889 00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:29,148 Speaker 11: two years. He's played well. He's a leader, He's a 890 00:37:29,148 --> 00:37:32,828 Speaker 11: green dot guy. Also Vrabel. The way that he's built 891 00:37:32,828 --> 00:37:36,108 Speaker 11: this Patriots defense, it's like he's hand picking guys. Flaine 892 00:37:36,228 --> 00:37:38,548 Speaker 11: is going there with an absolute purpose. 893 00:37:38,988 --> 00:37:39,868 Speaker 4: The only thing. 894 00:37:39,748 --> 00:37:41,748 Speaker 11: That I'm excited about, or that I want him to 895 00:37:41,828 --> 00:37:44,708 Speaker 11: do and I'm excited about him doing, is just taking 896 00:37:44,708 --> 00:37:46,748 Speaker 11: the ball away. I think if he adds that piece 897 00:37:46,788 --> 00:37:49,068 Speaker 11: to this, I mean, he's gonna be the guy that 898 00:37:49,108 --> 00:37:50,148 Speaker 11: people are talking about. 899 00:37:51,068 --> 00:37:54,028 Speaker 3: Kyle, are we going to play like freeze tag next? 900 00:37:54,108 --> 00:37:55,588 Speaker 3: And then we're going to have a take on that, 901 00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,108 Speaker 3: like what's your next backyard childhood game that you're going 902 00:37:58,188 --> 00:37:59,748 Speaker 3: to make into content for GMFB. 903 00:38:01,308 --> 00:38:03,748 Speaker 5: No cuts, no butts, no coconuts. We'll do some of 904 00:38:03,788 --> 00:38:05,388 Speaker 5: that go all day long. 905 00:38:06,068 --> 00:38:08,268 Speaker 1: Do you know, like, do you know Red Rover You're 906 00:38:08,308 --> 00:38:10,228 Speaker 1: from a different generation. I thought it was like too 907 00:38:10,308 --> 00:38:12,028 Speaker 1: violent for your crowded did you ever call that? 908 00:38:12,148 --> 00:38:15,468 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, if you're talking to me, listen. I'm from Georgia. 909 00:38:15,628 --> 00:38:18,308 Speaker 11: I'm from the Red Clay. I know about Red Rover. 910 00:38:18,428 --> 00:38:19,348 Speaker 11: I came up on that.