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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. I am John SCHMALKI is

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Speaker 1: Lance Medal. The phone numbers two one, nine, four or

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Speaker 1: five one three. Hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter if you

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Speaker 1: want to get in touch with us that way you can.

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Speaker 1: Will be taking your calls all show long as we

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Speaker 1: have one more week of the off season programming remaining.

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Speaker 1: Last week, the Giants had their mandatory mini camp, but

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Speaker 1: which the attendance was spectacular. Everyone was here, um except

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Speaker 1: for Sambo who with some personal things that need to

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Speaker 1: take care of, but otherwise everyone else was here. That

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Speaker 1: was Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. This week you have the

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Speaker 1: four remaining o t s. The media availability this week

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Speaker 1: will be Tuesday, which is tomorrow. So no really no news,

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Speaker 1: but lands your ball thoughts in terms of what you

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Speaker 1: think the most important developments of the spring thus far,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably point to the wide receivers and I think

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Speaker 1: the work that they got in over the last few practices,

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Speaker 1: specifically in mandatory minicamp. I think that's a position of

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Speaker 1: great depth on this team, and I think that it's

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Speaker 1: easy to overlook that position because of the departure of

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, but I think it's gonna be a true

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Speaker 1: spread the wealth mentality this season, John, And you look

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Speaker 1: at what Golden Tate I think has brought to the table.

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Speaker 1: He can be a consistent playmaker. Sterling Shepherd much more comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll stay healthy this season within the system. And

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Speaker 1: I like the guy's battling for the third spot. I've

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Speaker 1: written about this on Giants dot Com. I've talked about

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Speaker 1: it on social media. Checked out Factor Fiction and Cover

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Speaker 1: three by the Way, which are up on John Indeed,

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Speaker 1: in which we talked about a lot of the teams

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into on today's show. Corey Coleman is

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Speaker 1: one guy in particular that I think is important to

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Speaker 1: note battling for that third wide receiver spot. You know

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Speaker 1: Benny Fowler who was with the team last year, Cody

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Speaker 1: Lattimer hopefully staying fully healthy because he flashed last season

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Speaker 1: unfortunately could not stay in the field, spent most of

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Speaker 1: the year on i R. So you list all those

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Speaker 1: players and a Russell Shepherd, who I think has the

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Speaker 1: capacity to contribute as a wide receiver, showed it last season.

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Speaker 1: He's mainly known as a special teamer. You take all

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Speaker 1: of that into consideration. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that I think in make somewhat of an indentation

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Speaker 1: on offense this season. Not to mention also Darius Slayton,

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Speaker 1: who pat Shermer by the way, is ranting and raving

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Speaker 1: about it, and maybe I'm throwing out a little bit

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Speaker 1: Slayton John he's been very positive. They like the strides

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Speaker 1: he's made since rookie Minnie camp where he had the

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Speaker 1: case of the drop seas. So you know, every day

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Speaker 1: it seems as if a wide receiver standing out a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver is doing something. I understand there's no physical

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Speaker 1: activity to the point of where guys are being tackled,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that they're running good routes, they're making plays,

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Speaker 1: they're getting in sync with the quarterbacks, I think that's

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Speaker 1: encouraging it. And that's the position that I watched the

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Speaker 1: don't see a lot of takeaways from the defensive side

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Speaker 1: the open field. Well, the only thing I could take

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Speaker 1: from the defensive side of the ball is well, who's

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Speaker 1: covering the wide receivers, right quarterbacks, and that and and

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Speaker 1: and and and that's really all you can see. And

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Speaker 1: I think the story for me, and I think Darius

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Speaker 1: Slayton's emergence has been in a very good one. I

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Speaker 1: think he has done a lot better. And I think

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Speaker 1: you hit all the nails in the head perfectly, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna add to that. He's fast, he's separated,

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Speaker 1: I think those are all really good things. Um. I

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Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, He's exceeded my expectations. He's

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Speaker 1: I've been impressed with his performance. Um. I think you

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Speaker 1: the offense last Wednesday, specifically in mandatory mini camp, had

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Speaker 1: main takeaway from me from the off season program so

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Speaker 1: far has been DeAndre Baker for a player to take

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Speaker 1: himself from the second team to the first team before

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Speaker 1: Mini camp even gets here. Two perform so well the

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Speaker 1: I think that says a lot. And he was a

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Speaker 1: positive for I think most corners that are comfortable playing

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Speaker 1: press coverage John because it's almost as if they have

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Speaker 1: to tap into other facets of their skill set that

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Speaker 1: So that actually, I think it's gonna bode well for

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Speaker 1: been extremely active during the off season program. John he

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Speaker 1: mainly why he wasn't very active. But prior to that,

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Speaker 1: on the football. And here's another thing that I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this was lacking from the team, but Peppers,

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Speaker 1: to me, has brought a different flavor attitude to the

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Speaker 1: bringing that competitive fire to the field, and that's a

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Speaker 1: there's some friendly competition going on, even when you can't

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Speaker 1: I even think Shermer is welcoming that at this point

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Speaker 1: And I've written this a couple of different times. I

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Speaker 1: And I think the energy you see on the field

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Speaker 1: While there's energy and a lot of competitiveness, and guys

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Speaker 1: competitive football, and I think it makes people more motivated

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Speaker 1: no one's doing that. But Patremers made the point too.

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Speaker 1: because you could argue when Oldell Beckham was on this team, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't see that philosophy changing. However, Peppers is a starter,

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Speaker 1: If Peppers does take control of both of those jobs

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Speaker 1: what's up, hey, guys, Thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Love your show. Thank you for calling. Carl. Time send

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Speaker 1: You guys have been talking about depth on the dB

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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, called Carl, Carl, Carl, let us respond

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Speaker 1: And Alans is the captain of the Corey Coleman fan club,

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Speaker 1: I've said this multiple times, Carl. I understand the hype

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Speaker 1: he's not coming back. I'm thinking that the reason the

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Speaker 1: Giants let him go, it's just like they let Shocky

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Speaker 1: go when they wanted Eli to take over as the

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Speaker 1: team leader, is to move on and let Barkley, who

431
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Speaker 1: was a great, great player and a great just a

432
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Speaker 1: great guy. I love him, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: reason that you know, they let beck him go. I'm

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Speaker 1: just looking at your opinion. I just want to tell

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Speaker 1: you it was a great show fariety and it's a

436
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Speaker 1: great show period. I love it. Thank you, John, I'll

437
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Speaker 1: take your answer off the I appreciate the calling. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. Thank you for being a fan of

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Speaker 1: the team for uh such a long time. Only Paul

440
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Speaker 1: de Tino, has you beat kid? Um? Yes? Um. You know,

441
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: when you look back and you look at the reasons,

442
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Speaker 1: I think there are a few ways you look at it. One,

443
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Speaker 1: I think they like the more diversified offense, and there

444
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Speaker 1: is a use and advantage of having a guy like

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Speaker 1: Beckham that has the gravity that he has on offense,

446
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Speaker 1: and no one would argue that take a player like

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Speaker 1: that off the team, they're gonna better offensively. That's not

448
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: the point we're trying to make But if you look

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Speaker 1: at how the offense operating the games Beckham was out

450
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Speaker 1: last year, they didn't really score many fewer points. They

451
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Speaker 1: spread the ball a lot, a lot more. Evan Inghram

452
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Speaker 1: was a bigger part of it. They ran the ball

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Speaker 1: a lot more. And I just think that they believe

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Speaker 1: that the offense, while maybe not as good without Beckham,

455
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Speaker 1: if you improve the offensive linelight they did with Kevin

456
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Speaker 1: Zeitler and MS, the offense maybe would only be slightly worse.

457
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Speaker 1: But then you could take the resources you're putting into

458
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Speaker 1: Beckham starting next year. Obviously you have the you know,

459
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Speaker 1: the contracts store on on the books this year in

460
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Speaker 1: terms of dead money, but then then you can use

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Speaker 1: that money to help the d fence or a different

462
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Speaker 1: part of the field to supplement what you already think

463
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Speaker 1: is a good enough offense based on how you played

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Speaker 1: end of last season. And again the small sample size,

465
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Speaker 1: you can't take everything out of that correct And most importantly, guys,

466
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Speaker 1: and this is really the biggest point, is that they

467
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Speaker 1: feel like they got good value for him, and they

468
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Speaker 1: got value for the player, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: relitigate that today, So please, no Beckham trade. Cossel so

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Speaker 1: I'm banking you, But that's how I look at it.

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Speaker 1: At least, Yeah, additional assets to address other areas of

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Speaker 1: the team, specifically the defensive side of the ball, John,

473
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Speaker 1: which we knew I had a lot of question marks

474
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Speaker 1: entering this offseason, and Dave Gettleman felt with some additional

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Speaker 1: draft picks that could give them an opportunity to move

476
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Speaker 1: in the right direction there. As far as the way

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Speaker 1: that the caller worded it in terms of Beckham versus Barkley,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily buy that argument. First of all, you

479
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Speaker 1: could have multiple leaders on your team simultaneously, John, So

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a matter of all. You know,

481
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Speaker 1: there's too many personalities in the locker room here. We

482
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Speaker 1: can't balance it. And remember Oldell Beckham. Not that this matters,

483
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Speaker 1: but Odell Beckham was not a team captain, so it

484
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Speaker 1: wasn't as if he was jockeying for position with somebody

485
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Speaker 1: else on offense. Not that you have to have a

486
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Speaker 1: captain label, John to be a leader on the team.

487
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Speaker 1: There's multiple leaders, But I don't buy in the fact

488
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Speaker 1: that there wasn't room for two guys on offense. I

489
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Speaker 1: do think there's some truth to it and John Marred

490
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Speaker 1: talked about this when he was asked about it at

491
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Speaker 1: the owner's beings. I think it was over this year

492
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Speaker 1: and look and look just they're just so much. And

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Speaker 1: I talked about his gravity on the football field, right,

494
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Speaker 1: like attracting defenders. There's just so much gravity around him.

495
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Speaker 1: And some of it's not his fault. Some of it

496
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Speaker 1: is about the stuff that he does off the field.

497
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Speaker 1: How much attention to grabs and then the players are

498
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Speaker 1: asked about it and it can service a distraction. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's probably in the formula too.

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Speaker 1: But again, the trade would not have been made unless

501
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Speaker 1: the Giants thought they got really good value for the

502
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Speaker 1: player and they got more or equal than what they

503
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Speaker 1: gave up. And that's the key to the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Dave get him and talked about after

505
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Speaker 1: the trade was made. And they think what they brought

506
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Speaker 1: in can help the team win. That's what matters. Marko,

507
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Speaker 1: North Carolina's up next, they mark what's up? Hey, how

508
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Speaker 1: are you doing? I was kind of talk about like

509
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Speaker 1: the offensive line, like pretty much like last year, it's like, well,

510
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Speaker 1: the Giants will go as far as the offensive line

511
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Speaker 1: will take them, you know. And I think this year

512
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing, um, because I think

513
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the other stuff got addressed, like secondary

514
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Speaker 1: of the corners. I mean, we for years needed a

515
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Speaker 1: third or fourth corner. Now we got six and seven corners.

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Speaker 1: You know. Well, but keep in mind they're they're all

517
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Speaker 1: relatively young. Barney is one of my favorite guys. My gosh,

518
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Speaker 1: Now he was a great player, man, remember, and Lanche

519
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: has made the point mark. The Giants have depth a corner,

520
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Speaker 1: but it's a lot of inexperienced depth. They only have

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Speaker 1: a few guys that have played a lot. Tony Lippets

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Speaker 1: one of the vets, but he hasn't played a lot

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Speaker 1: of snaps in this league. Uh. Hamilton's another guy out there,

524
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Speaker 1: but he hasn't played a lot of snaps in this league.

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Speaker 1: Jenkins is your guy at corner that's played a lot.

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Speaker 1: So uh, young corners in this league and sometimes have

527
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Speaker 1: a rough education early on in their careers. And the

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Speaker 1: Giants are gonna hope that they're young dbs learned quick

529
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Speaker 1: and learn early. And you don't have those rough patches

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Speaker 1: during the regular season. And they said you have them

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Speaker 1: during the preseason. Instead, right, like a few years ago

532
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Speaker 1: in Seattle. I mean, they had all kinds of good

533
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Speaker 1: corners and safeties, and you know, they were young players,

534
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Speaker 1: so I mean they made it, made it happen like

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Speaker 1: they were. Those guys were vets, though, Mark the camp Chancellors,

536
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Speaker 1: the Earl Thomas Is, the Richard Sherman's, the Browners, those

537
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Speaker 1: guys are all vets. They were young vets, but there

538
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Speaker 1: were vets they had experience under different I mean this group,

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Speaker 1: with the exception of Jenkins. I mean Grant Haley is

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Speaker 1: one of the Vets in the group, and he barely

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Speaker 1: has been on an NFL field much. He wasn't even

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Speaker 1: on the ross of the first six seven games of

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Speaker 1: last year. So you know, that says a lot. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, there's volume, but but I just want

545
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Speaker 1: to make it clear, and this is not being a

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Speaker 1: Debbie Downer. This is just the reality. There's a distinct

547
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Speaker 1: difference between volume versus proven depth. I think the Giants

548
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: have volume. I don't know if they're in the proven

549
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Speaker 1: depth department yet. I think we gotta see that and

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Speaker 1: that will be determined based on production this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the veteran safeties, though we're brought in will

552
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Speaker 1: help that out. Jack Rabbit too, I mean, you know,

553
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: but at any rate, the offensive line was the main

554
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Speaker 1: reason I call um, you know, the you know, our

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Speaker 1: starting tackles as it were on paper, are currently as

556
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Speaker 1: it were, injured but are recovering. Um. But you know

557
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: the depth chart, I mean, Chad Wheeler, I guess would

558
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Speaker 1: be a swing tackle if you were to just look

559
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Speaker 1: at paper, you know, without pads or anything, you know,

560
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Speaker 1: just looking at it. And you know, Chad Wheeler is

561
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Speaker 1: consistently needed help. And of course he was better than

562
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Speaker 1: Flowers obviously, but I mean, you know, like getting Flowers,

563
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Speaker 1: he was a high pick when we got him, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's still I think it's almost like you have to

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Speaker 1: have veteran tackles come into to play the spots, which

567
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Speaker 1: they did bring in. So I mean there's hope there,

568
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Speaker 1: But as far as the depth chart goes on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, I think we're hurting, you know, yeah, Market

570
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Speaker 1: The good thing is that whoever doesn't win the battle

571
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Speaker 1: between Hallapeo and Spencer, probably that's gonna be your backup

572
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: guard slash center. So I think you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: good starting quality player there, Chad Wheeler, who started a

574
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Speaker 1: lot of games last year fourteen. If I'm not mistaken, right,

575
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Speaker 1: Um Flowers gotta let go of after week two? That

576
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: sounds about right. And you know, he played a lot

577
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Speaker 1: of games last year. And if he's your swing tackle,

578
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: a guy that start a few last year in a

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Speaker 1: group that did pretty well in the last eight games

580
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: as an offensive line, I think him as a swing guys. Okay,

581
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Speaker 1: do you try to find somebody better? Absolutely, the Giants

582
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: always and look out for those guys. But I do

583
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Speaker 1: think they liked the way Chad Wheeler progressed this offseason

584
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Speaker 1: after his first first season playing in a in a

585
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Speaker 1: lot of games and playing real football. So I do

586
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Speaker 1: think they like the way that he's progressing. We'll see

587
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: how that translates once the pads come on. What is

588
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: it his third year now or this is his third year,

589
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: but his first year was was pretty much a red

590
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Speaker 1: shirt year, not because of injury, he was just basically

591
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: didn't play a whole lot in the first season, right,

592
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Speaker 1: And I think been played left tackle as well, So

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00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: that's yeah, he's actually even probably he's probably played more

594
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: snaps and left tackle in his career than right. If

595
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Speaker 1: you go back to college, Mark he was a left

596
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: tackle at USC, so he's gonna be comfortable moving over

597
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: to the left side. In terms of the starter is

598
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: real quick. I think it's gonna be above average, too

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00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: good a plus group as a run blocking unit and

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Speaker 1: as pass blockers, because I think Zeitler and Reremer's and

601
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Hernandez are all very good run blockers. Then if you

602
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: get to the pass blocking nothing for me, and this

603
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: is important, the Giants are not going to have to

604
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Speaker 1: limit what they do offensively because of this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I cannot say that last year, the year before that,

606
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Speaker 1: of the year before that, of the year before that,

607
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Speaker 1: where you had to limit the amount of five or

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Speaker 1: seven step drops, the type of passage you can call,

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00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: the type of protections you can call because of the

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Speaker 1: group on the offensive line. Might this group not be

611
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: a top ten pass blocking line? No, maybe not, But

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: that's okay. They're gonna be good enough to hold their

613
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: own and give Manning enough time to throw the ball,

614
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: complete passes and give Pat Charmer leave to call whatever

615
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: place he wants and run his offense the way he wants.

616
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Speaker 1: Because their veterans they know what they're doing and they're

617
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: not gonna have those types of jail breaks that we've

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Speaker 1: seen here before, right, which pretty much that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, as long as the offensive line

620
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Speaker 1: can stay healthy, I think we'll be in really good shape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's always the key. You can say that

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Speaker 1: pretty much for any team. Thank you, Mark, you don't

623
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Speaker 1: want to have to continually move guys around and appreciate

624
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: the phone call. One other players that I would throw

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00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: out in terms of death Brian Halleck, who is still

626
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: on the roster. He's been with a few NFL teams

627
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: during the course of his career. Practice squad here last

628
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: year towards the talent of last season, got into a

629
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Speaker 1: game or two, so you know, he's somebody else that

630
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna move around. And if he does

631
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: make the roster, he could be sort of a swing

632
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: tackle too. So monster guys like six nine presidency, big boy.

633
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Speaker 1: Fourth year in the league, so he has been around

634
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: the block a little bit. And here's the other thing

635
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: to keep in mind. If you look across the league, John,

636
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: you know people who call up well, you know, I'd

637
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: be nice if the Giants had, you know, two or

638
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: three established tackles as the backups. There are teams that

639
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: are still looking for starters at tackles. Nobody is in

640
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: the luxury in this league of having two or three

641
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: guys with multiple years starting at right and left tackle

642
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: and they're your fifth, your sixth, and your seventh offensive line.

643
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: It's just that's not how the NFL works. Most teams

644
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: are relying on guys who are young. They have potential,

645
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: but they don't have a great deal of experience. I

646
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: think the Eagles may have been the exception the year

647
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. They had a lot of

648
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: guys that fell too. They could plug in who were

649
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: former starters or fill in players here or there. But

650
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: most teams are relying on young players. Giants are not

651
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: necessarily on an island all by themselves. Thaves are relying

652
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: for the young players of starters on the offensive line James,

653
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: let alone their swing guys. So to have a guy

654
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: with three years of experience that started fourteen games for

655
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: you last year's or swing tackle, there are worse positions

656
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: to be in two, four or five one three more

657
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: recent new Jerseysum next time? Oh what's up? USh Man?

658
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: So I just want to touch on a few things. Uh.

659
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I think like from position wise, I think the defensive

660
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: line is a reasonably optimism. I think linebacker, it's pretty

661
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: much the same quarterback. We know we got there. I

662
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: think the dbs there's a reason to be optimistic there. Um.

663
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: I had a quick question for you. I've got two

664
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Speaker 1: factor fictions there. But I got a quick question for

665
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: you on John. Do you think if you were the

666
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: head coach right and you guys are just talking about

667
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: the optensive line, would you play them extendedly in the

668
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: pre game? What do you consider so they can jail?

669
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like, um, you know, probably leave them like

670
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: out there there a little bit in third you know,

671
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean the first two games, and then I would glorious,

672
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I would play them as much as I play my

673
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: other starter. So I play him about a quarter in

674
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: week one, I play him two quarters in week two.

675
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: In Week three, I play them into the third quarter

676
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: if that's what you're doing with the rest of your offense,

677
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: and then make whatever decision you want in week four

678
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: based on what they did before. I don't think you

679
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: need to play them four quarters in any of those

680
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: pre season games because quite frankly, these guys are all veterans.

681
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the only you know, two guys on the

682
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: of the group that maybe might not have that much

683
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: playing experience are will her Nanez, who played all year

684
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: as a rookie, but it's the only one year experience,

685
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: and then Halapio, who does a lot of in game experience.

686
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Everyone else, including Spencer Polly, has been around the block

687
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot of times in this league. So no, I

688
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: don't I wouldn't play them more than usual in the

689
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: preseason unless there are signs that they needed, which I

690
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: don't think is going to be the case. We'll keep

691
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: in mind Solder had offseason surgery. I don't think they're

692
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna press him. Soldier also is coming off an entire

693
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: season that he played next to her Nandez, so I

694
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: don't think the urgency to get them additional reps when

695
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: they've already played next to each other. If Pully wins

696
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: the center job, then Hernandez has plenty of experience playing

697
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: next to Pulley because he was primarily the center for

698
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: the most of last season. And the right side, which

699
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: is really the only new entity of the line. Assuming

700
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Speaker 1: Remers wins out, Yeah, Remers and Zeitler want to gain

701
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: some experience next to one another, which I'm sure is

702
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: gonna come in camp. But they're also, as you mentioned, John,

703
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: they're proven veterans. It's not as if you're throwing two

704
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: rookies in there. Zeidler. Zeidler has been with a different

705
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Speaker 1: right tackle, I want to say, in each of the

706
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: last five seasons. So if there's any guy on this

707
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: planet that knows what it's like to get used to

708
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: a new player on the fly, it's Kevin Zeigler. That

709
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: goes back to when he's with Cincinnati before Cleveland. I

710
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: need a pro ball about which just a great play.

711
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's necessarily through the roof to

712
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: get them all out there. Okay, And that's that's all

713
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: fair points. And um also just quick announces. I think

714
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: that I would like to see uh Ausi Grossis continue

715
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: on his upward trajectory. I think he was like most

716
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: improved Giant last year in my opinion, and I like

717
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: what's doing yesterday. I thought Dixon was doing great things

718
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: punt the ball last year. And quickly about Grant Haley,

719
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he wasn't shopped Liver out there last year.

720
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I thought he got overlooked because the defense wasn't that great,

721
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: because I don't think he was just getting told up

722
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: out there. So I think it's now more than I agree.

723
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: By the way, I also think he's outplayed Julian Love

724
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: so far this spring, so he is doing all he

725
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: can to hold onto that slot corner job. And I agree.

726
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: I think he was overlooked a little bit in the

727
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: last season, no doubt. So here here's like the two.

728
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: The first one, the first sactis fiction is Sterling Shepherd

729
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: is gonna have more yards and touchdowns than Golden take

730
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: and Evan Alim. Will he out scores them and touchdowns?

731
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: And will he has also more yards than them? That's

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Speaker 1: the first one I'm gonna say fiction. I think Sterling

733
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: Shepherd will probably have more receiving yards than the other

734
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Speaker 1: two guys, but I think Evan Ingram will have more touchdowns. Yeah,

735
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Speaker 1: I would go fiction too. I actually think Golden Taid's

736
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna have more receiving yards than Sterling Shepherd. I think

737
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Speaker 1: Taid's gonna finish with probably the team high. I could

738
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Speaker 1: see him being in that nine hundred range. I think

739
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Speaker 1: he'll just miss out on a thousand, and I think

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Speaker 1: Evaning will probably will be the top guy in touch.

741
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Speaker 1: The more reason, the fact that you can ask that

742
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: question if we don't immediately just give you the same name,

743
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: I think tells you how balanced this offense can be

744
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: and how much versatility Mike Shool and Pat Sherm are

745
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: gonna have each week designing their scheme to take advantage

746
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: of the weakness of defenses, which is a good thing. Okay,

747
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: what's your second factor fixture and so so that's the

748
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: perfect state to my next one. So now we all

749
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: understand I'm not going to touch on o death thing,

750
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: but we all understand that he's gone. So it's just

751
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: Si Kwan's second year and I think, in my opinion

752
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: of offense is gonna open up more. And like you said,

753
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: with the flexibility, now, which one of the receivers out

754
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: of Evan Ingram, Shepherd and Take will uh state Kwon

755
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: Barkley out received as far as receptions um in this

756
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: upcoming season? Who would we have more receptions than this

757
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: season between those three guys, Shepherd, Take and Evan Ingram

758
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: and I take it off. I appreciate it more. Thank you,

759
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: good question. We kind of had this debate a little

760
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: bit on on The Factor Fiction and Cover three on

761
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: the internet as well, and on the show Just for

762
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: Fun well, and we even talked about a few shows

763
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: ago about Barkley's reception totals. We were having an entire

764
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: discussion about the ninety one last season. Yeah, it was

765
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: to provide contact, correct, and it was broken up. I

766
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: think thirty three and fifty front end, back end, some

767
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: front when I did a lot of the heavy lifting

768
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season. Fifty eight and

769
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: thirty three that's what it was. Fifty eight in the

770
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: first half of these season, and thirty three and the

771
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: second half that's what it was. Yeah, things changed right

772
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: after the by I believe Shepherd and Tate will both

773
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: have more receptions than say, Kwon Barkley, but I believe

774
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Barkley will have more receptions than Evan Ingram. That's what

775
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I would vote. What It shocked me though, if Barkley

776
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Speaker 1: was second on the team and catches and only one

777
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Speaker 1: of the receivers had more catches than them, though, wouldn't

778
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: surprise me. I think Barkley will be somewhere between seventy

779
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: and seventy five in terms of catches. Yeah, I mean

780
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: I still think eight is a reasonable expectation. Wouldn't rule

781
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: that out, but I'm with you. I think Barkley having

782
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: more receptions than Ingram I don't think that's a stretch

783
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I think that's reasonable. Once again,

784
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna look to not just dump it

785
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: off to the running back this season, assuming that the

786
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: play of the offensive line improves. So that is going

787
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: to take away opportunities from Barkley as opposed to last

788
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: season where he was sort of that security blanket. But

789
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: I also think the Giants realized when they could get

790
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Barkley out in open space and they can run screens

791
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: and utilize him as a receiver, it makes the offense

792
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: that much more dangerous. So I don't think that facet

793
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: of the offense is going to be removed, but I

794
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: think he could reasonably still finished second on the team

795
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: in total receptions. I'm with you there. I think that's fair.

796
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I think he will have

797
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: anywhere between fifteen to twenty fewer catches. I think he's

798
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: probably gonna have just as many yards, and I think

799
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna have just as many or of not more

800
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: meaningful catches like isolated on third down, get him one

801
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: on one with somebody, make the big play, catch the

802
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: ball over the middle, make the middle linebacker and miss

803
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: run for a big game. I think the reason he

804
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: had so many catches last year and ninety one, besides

805
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: the fact he's super talented, is that what you said

806
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: before Lands is accurate, that there were a lot of

807
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: oh boy, Eli is gonna get crushed. He's got to

808
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, dump at the s quan,

809
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: and we saw that in a lot of games, especially

810
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. I just don't think that's gonna

811
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: be the goal. So I think they'll need him less

812
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: in pass pro to some extent, and I think they'll

813
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: try to get him out more either coming out of

814
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: the backfield one on one and the slaughter outside one

815
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: on one, and they'll try to take advantage of those

816
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: matchups for more big plays rather than those kind of

817
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: dink and dunk throats. Yeah, and it was more of that,

818
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: as you noted, as opposed to well, the Giants were

819
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: trailing and as a result they had to throw the

820
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: ball and trying to pick up an easy first down

821
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: as to get it to the running back. I mean

822
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: most of the games the Giants were in the thicker things,

823
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: just couldn't close out contest. So I don't think there

824
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: were enough lopsided games last season to say that was

825
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 1: the reason why the running back was being utilized, because

826
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: they needed to move the ball quickly, get it up

827
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: the field, and Eli felt that was the best game plan.

828
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: You know. I think he did a couple end of

829
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: the game though, when you're down two scores late and

830
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: the Giants kind of got a late touchdown, and he

831
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: might have got some yards and catches on some of

832
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: those late drives to when teams were playing prevent I

833
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: think that is fair and some earlier in the season,

834
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: because in the second half of the season there were

835
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: certainly a lot of close games, and you look at

836
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: the last quarter of the season specifically where it was

837
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: back and forth and the other reason why. And I

838
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: know it's a different offense and different personnel, but you

839
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: look at Christian McCaffrey's numbers, which actually increased. Now I'm

840
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: not saying one is gonna move up from ninety one,

841
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: but the Panthers continue to realize McCaffrey is a strong

842
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: asset as a receiver, and I think the Giants view

843
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: Barkley in the same way. I do think the big

844
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: difference though, if you look at the weapons around around

845
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: the Giant on three lett in Columbia, Maryland. Hey, Len, Hey, guys,

846
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: how you doing doing great? Hey? John? Out of respect

847
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: for your request, I'm going to stay off any Beckham questions. Okay,

848
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: if you have a lot at maybe maybe it'll Yeah,

849
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: I'll manage to stay off of um. Listen, it's a

850
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: it's a great time here to be excited, and I'm

851
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: partially excited. I just can't. I can't generate full optimism.

852
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm looking forward to being surprised in September.

853
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I really am. I want to be surprised. I want

854
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: the team to be better then I think it's gonna be.

855
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm still a little down on the personnel

856
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: and that what we have. Let me let me ask

857
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: you A who's running with the so called ones at

858
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: left tackle during minicamp and O T A S Are

859
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: you there? Yeah? Yeah, you're talking about who's replaced Nate Solder. Yeah,

860
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: left tackle Brian Mahalak has been Sorry, let I zoned

861
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: that there first was my fault? Yeah? Yeah? Okay, Um,

862
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: is there an injury. I'm hoping I didn't put you

863
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: to sleep, John, No, No No, that's okay, I am. I'm

864
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: actually scanning through Twitter for tweets for later in the show.

865
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: That's sultaneous. Ya okay um. Is there an injury situation

866
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: with the safety Chandler? Yes, I don't know if we

867
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: ever announced that. Do we announced what his injury is?

868
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: Do we know what his injuries? I don't think so. Yeah,

869
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't been I honestly don't know what it is

870
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: either way, Um, he has not been practicing. So yes,

871
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: that is correct. I think I want to say it

872
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: has to do with soreness. I believe patran ingram to.

873
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember. It could have been, but

874
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: don't call me on that, okay, okay um At lance

875
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: On Coleman, I kind of got a little chuckle when

876
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: you talked about it all being in Corey's hands, and

877
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: I got a little worried about Corey because he has

878
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the best hands. I mean, I don't

879
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I want to be optimistic about Corey as a receiver,

880
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: not as you know, fifth fifth guy gets a uniform

881
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: returning kicks. I'm talking about a guy who can go

882
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: out there and and play fifty plays, fifty five plays

883
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. I just don't have that kind of

884
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: confidence in the guy. Yet He's got to catch some

885
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: key passes in key situations for me to get to

886
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: that point about Coleman, and Frankly, I'm not far behind,

887
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, with Ladimer. My my last recollection of Ladimer.

888
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: While he did make a spectacular catch in Game sixteen

889
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: down the left sideline um fourth down against the Cowboys,

890
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: first down pass from me line, you know, catch the ball,

891
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: keep the drive alive. That that's my last recollection of Lattimer.

892
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: I have trouble getting that out of my mind. I

893
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: think both of those guys, to me, makes if they're

894
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: regular wide receivers, may fall into the category of coach killers.

895
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: But remember, I want to be surprised when we get

896
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: to September. Well, I just don't understand how Lattimer as

897
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: a coach killer though. You just commended him on making

898
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: a catch, though, so why would you throw him in

899
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: on the coach killer label because he dropped that fourth

900
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: down pass. For the way you were selling it was

901
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: as if he made a big play. I misheard you,

902
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: That's why. Well, but once again, those guys are not

903
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: defined by one catch during the course of their careers.

904
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: Considering the sample size is not overwhelming. So I think

905
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: we got to see what both of them could do

906
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: moving forward. I don't think there's a lot to go

907
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: by Cody Lattimer and Denver was barely utilized as a

908
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver in fairness. And Corey Coleman, you know, he

909
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: was hurt in each of his first two seasons at

910
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland because he broke his hand twice, and then he

911
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: was moved around. He had a cup of coffee in Buffalo.

912
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: In New England, he was barely there. And then with

913
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: the Giants, he joined the team in October, he was

914
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: on the practice squard. He was called up about a

915
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: week later and wasn't out there for very many snaps. So,

916
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: once again, the sample size is so small for both

917
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: of those guys to label them as coach killers when

918
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: we really haven't seen what their true potential is. I

919
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: think he's going a little too far at this point. Well,

920
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: what year is Latimer going into? Latimer played out his

921
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: rookie contract. What is he going into his fifth year?

922
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: This is Latimer's It was kind of a leading question

923
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: to be able to say, when is this guy going

924
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: to show it to us? But but once again, you

925
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: have to have playing time in order to show it. Lane, Well,

926
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: did you want me to do what you mean by playing? What?

927
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean by playing times? The fact that

928
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: he had some injuries in Denver? No, I'm talking about

929
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: he was barely utilized as a wide receiver. He was

930
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: a special teamer. I mean, think about the guys ahead

931
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: of him on the depth. I'll bring up you his

932
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: offensive snaps in Denver. There were not a lot of

933
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: fensive snaps that he logged in his first three seasons

934
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: at Denver. Okay, I guess my point is I'm putting

935
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Latimer into a proven and that's fair. I don't I

936
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: don't disagree and can't get that optimistic until Corey shows

937
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: me something. Okay, But but my point is in his

938
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: total record lance and this this may I may be

939
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: way off on this, but let me let me make

940
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: a guess. He's played more games than he has receptions

941
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: in terms of Cody Latimer you're referring to. Yeah, I

942
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: mean we can look at him. Maybe totally wrong on that, now,

943
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: that's probably right. I would bet I think look look

944
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: like he's bottom on. You're right, there should be skepticism,

945
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: and legitimate skepticism for anybody passed the top two guys.

946
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: Why they haven't done anything yet. So I get where

947
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: you're coming from. But I can tell you that type

948
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: Tolbert loves Cody Laddimer to death. He thinks he's a

949
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: real good player. And even if he's not here, and

950
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't not here as a primary third receiver, he

951
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: could very well be here as a special teamer because

952
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: he's such a good gunner, for one, and he's also

953
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: a potential return man on kick So they do value

954
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: with skills that even beyond just being a receiver. Okay,

955
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: if if I hadn't made the promise here, John, I'd

956
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: say to you at this point, my you know, my

957
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: point would be, how do we get those receptions back

958
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: from what we're gonna miss with Odell. But let's let's

959
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: not go over there. Let's not let me let me

960
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: ask him. I don't think you have before you go on,

961
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: Before you go on, Latimer, let him go get that.

962
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Let me let me jump in here, because

963
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: you're dancing around like ballerina. Here. Fifty one games Latimer

964
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: played forty five receptions. By the way, real quick, by

965
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the way, really quick, Golden Tate's gonna make up for

966
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: a lot of those. Odell Beckham catches a lot of them. Okay, John,

967
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: give me I know Lancers numbers because she gave it

968
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: to us last week. Give me give me Tates numbers,

969
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: um eighty seventy nine catches nine hundred twenty three yards

970
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: in six seven touchdowns. Okay, um again, Remember I'm looking

971
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: to be surprised in September. I see Golden take given

972
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: us Ruben Randall like numbers, which was okay when you

973
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: had Beckham on the other side, or Nicks or Nicks

974
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: Ruben Ruben Randalls type numbers sixty eight hundred and eight.

975
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: You're you're rise. That would be one of the worst record,

976
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: one of the worst years in Golden Tate's career, right, okay,

977
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: all right, you know, just okay, I get it. That's

978
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: where I'm going. I get it. You're right, you're right

979
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: about that. But that's where I think, Well, if that's

980
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: where he ended went to surprise me, please, can I

981
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: say something about the offensive line? You got it? Okay, okay,

982
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: real quick, I'll make it quick and lands and Paul

983
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't like this when I raised it in a different

984
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: vein two weeks ago. But I really do believe this

985
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Wheeler lost his job at left tackle. If he loses

986
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: his job at right tackle, wy would you want him

987
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: on this team? When did he lose his job at

988
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: left tackle? Yeah? Well they went out and signed the

989
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: seventeen millions dollar the left tackle. Yeah, because he wouldn't

990
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: have done that if they thought wheel could play left tackle. Well, yeah,

991
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: because Solder is a better player. Losing your job is

992
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: different than a team bringing in a player that that

993
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: was an upgrade. The way the situation was at that point,

994
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: we really, Oh man, you don't think they really you

995
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: don't think they were looking to replace Wheelers. They was

996
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: just this opportunity they were they were of course they

997
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: wanted to improve it the position, and of course len

998
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler is an undrafted free agent out of USC

999
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Nate Solder is a starter for a Super Bowl multiple

1000
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning team. I mean, I mean, come on,

1001
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: you're comparing apples and it doesn't. All it means is

1002
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: that if you have an opportunity to go out and

1003
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: get a guy that started a left tackle for a

1004
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning team, and he's approven veteran, and he's

1005
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: logged a lot more snaps. What GM in their right

1006
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: mind would not try to do real quickly, real saying

1007
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: if you believe that, if you're if you're the management

1008
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: of you know, football operations, guys, if you if you

1009
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: believe that that Wheeler can handle left tackle, which at

1010
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: that particular point, which still go on and getting a

1011
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: solder There are levels of handle what what? What has handled? Mean? Though?

1012
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: For example, Lenn, I could look at Chad Wheeler, is

1013
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler is a great swing tackle who in the

1014
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: event of an injury, I'd feel confident you can give

1015
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: two and will be okay. And you need guys like

1016
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: that on your team. I think we can find guys

1017
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: like that. Listen, I'm okay to you the competition at

1018
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: right tackle. I'm just saying, if he loses the right

1019
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: tackle competition, if we can find somebody better, I'm sure

1020
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: they'll try and then will thank you. I appreciate the car,

1021
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: but also, Len, you're not necessarily guaranteed to bring in

1022
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: a guy September one or two after final cuts. I

1023
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: don't know the exact count dark top of my head.

1024
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: That is immediately going to know your system better than

1025
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler is going to come in. Spencer Pulley claimed

1026
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: off of waivers last year. It took him nearly half

1027
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: the season for him to get fully comfortable with the Giants.

1028
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: And Pulley was a guy who had started sixteen games

1029
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: the previous season with the Chargers. So you want to

1030
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: pull off a guy in the straight, fine, pull a

1031
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: guy over the street. But if you think you're gonna

1032
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: snap your fingers and he's gonna come in and it's

1033
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna be magic, then you've got another thing coming. And

1034
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: and when you use the expression, lose your job, Like

1035
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers lost his job last year, they found somebody

1036
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: else on the roster and they got rid of Flowers.

1037
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: And Flowers was also a first round pick. And if

1038
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: if week thirteen last year, after Wheeler had started seven,

1039
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, eight, nine games, whatever it was, ten games,

1040
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: they benched him for Brian Mahallak, you know what I

1041
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: would say, Yeah, Chad, we all lost his job. It's

1042
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: different than going out and getting out. Like my members

1043
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: that's been around the block, it has done this a

1044
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: long time now, are we telling you? Look, we were guys,

1045
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: we talked the offseason about John's dames up here to

1046
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: write tackle. It's the top three spot we needed to

1047
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: get better at. So we're not under any illusions of

1048
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: what the situation was. But it's just the phrasing lose

1049
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: your job. I think is is a little bit different

1050
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: depending on the situation. Well, but John, before you jump

1051
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: to a call or a tweet here, then using lens logic,

1052
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,959
Speaker 1: that's saying that if Halapio doesn't win against Pulley, that

1053
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: there's no value in keeping him on the roster. R

1054
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: his good point that that's the same logic Lenn, that

1055
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: you're thrown out here. And Halapio to me still has

1056
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: value because he can play garden center. But Pully just

1057
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: may outplay him. He may lose out in the competition.

1058
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just throwing out a hypothetical. One

1059
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: other thing that I wanted to throw in here, John too,

1060
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, explain more context to what Lenn was slightly

1061
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: firing back with. I just looked up Cody Lenimer's snap

1062
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: counts with the Denver Broncos for each of his four

1063
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: seasons in Denver before he signed with the Giants in eighteen.

1064
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: He played no more than thirty three percent of the

1065
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: offensive snaps, and that progressively improved. He went from three

1066
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: percent to seventeen percent to thirty three percent. That was it.

1067
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: That was the gist of what he got out of

1068
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: his offensive snap counts. He was not a wide receiver

1069
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: in Denver, Okay. You could go back and forth with

1070
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: me all you want. They believed he had an opportunity

1071
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: to be a wide receiver with the Giants and that

1072
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: was one of the attractive reasons why he signed here,

1073
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: in addition to Tyke Toilbert having faith in him as

1074
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver's coach. So the sample size and proven

1075
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: snaps of Cody Latimer being a wide receiver, it's minute,

1076
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: there is I agree with lenn it's showed me time.

1077
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: It's proved time because he was hurt. But I don't

1078
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: want to hear as if he's beyond the time of

1079
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: being a productive wide receiver. Same thing with Corey Coleman.

1080
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman too very small sample size because he was

1081
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: banged up each of his first two seasons in Cleveland.

1082
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: It's time for tweets. You know we got imaging chet

1083
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: do I thank you two ones real quick for today. Well,

1084
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm Gonna. Well, I'm very kind of addressed earlier. Kyle

1085
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Johnson of England gets hurt again this year and has

1086
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: an up and down year, Do you consider trading him

1087
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: after the season. Well, then you're not gonna get a

1088
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: lot for him if he's coming off a real injured year.

1089
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: So that's something you would address when you get there.

1090
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: But like I said last week, I think you need

1091
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: him to win one on one matchups as a mismatch

1092
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: guy Titan, especially when them thirteen not here anymore. Just

1093
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: like Corey Coleman, I would argue the opportunity is massive

1094
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: for Evan Ingram. It is because he can stay healthy.

1095
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: He could play play all sixteen games. He could very

1096
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: well if the ceiling plays out the way that perhaps

1097
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: we're speculating, Evan Ingram could be second on the team

1098
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: in multiple categories. I don't think that's crazy at all.

1099
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: Jason Honeywell at Honeywell, Jason doesn't jibro Peppers have history

1100
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: of fumbling on returns. If I'm not mistaken, it's been

1101
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: an issue. Wouldn't that worry the coach is more than

1102
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: saying healthy? Thanks guys? Well, Jason, I looked at his

1103
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: NFL stats he did have five fumbles as a rookie

1104
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: and Cleveland, which I did not remember. Shockily enough, I

1105
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: was not locked into the OHN sixteen Cleveland Browns two

1106
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: years ago. But good memory, Jason, good call on that.

1107
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: He only had two last year. So that is something

1108
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure the coaches have talked about with him in

1109
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: terms of ball protection, and yeah, that would be a concern. Um,

1110
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: they have not verbalized that concern at all with us

1111
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: this year here, the baby of room been asked about

1112
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: it yet either. But that's a good point and I

1113
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: will keep mine on that moving forward. It's good and

1114
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: it's only a concern if it shows up in rears

1115
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: its ugly head with the Giants again. Yeah, if it

1116
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: shows up in preseason, then obviously there'll be a big

1117
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: spotlight on it. All Right, we got three more calls.

1118
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Let's get him in before we say goodbye. Scott and

1119
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: Virginia's up next they Scott, Hey, guys, how's it going?

1120
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: Love your show? Thank Yeah. I have a quick comment

1121
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: regarding what Betcher said last week in the media. Gett

1122
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: mentioned that, Um, basically, the way the locker room is

1123
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: or the meeting room is with the players is they're

1124
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: not asking questions about you know, what the playbook is

1125
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: or what is this play? It's like they're taking it

1126
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: to another level where they're asking questions like, Okay, I

1127
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: understand this play, but if the offense runs this and

1128
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: exploits this, then what do we do? And that just

1129
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: was so promising to hear. And I don't know what

1130
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: your take is from like the sidelines or whatnot, if

1131
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: you can kind of see that kind of playing out

1132
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: in minicamp or not. It's hard from that angle, I

1133
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: think to see that Scott. But what I will say

1134
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: is this, And I know some people saw this as

1135
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: a negative with better last year and that you know,

1136
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: you didn't see him blitz a lot. He didn't do

1137
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff he did in that Rizona.

1138
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: People like, well, that's not the guy we brought in here,

1139
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: why is and he doing it to me and almost

1140
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: a awkwards way, it's a positive because he looked at

1141
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: his roster, he looked at the strengths and weaknesses the

1142
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: players on his roster, and he adjusted the way he

1143
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: called the game so in a way that he failt

1144
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: it would work even though it's not what he wants

1145
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: to do. And I think that shows you a defensive

1146
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: coordinator that's willing to adjust as not going to be

1147
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: stubborn and can make those adjustments along the way. And

1148
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Scott the other thing to note with respect to your point,

1149
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: and I did hear those comments, and I thought that

1150
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: was interesting too, with what Betris said about the evolution

1151
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: of his defense. But there's familiarity with the opposing offense

1152
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: that they're going up against in practice every day. So

1153
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, if you really want to see the stride Scott,

1154
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: that they make in terms of making sure offenses don't

1155
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: expose their weakness areas, they've got to go up against

1156
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: an opponent that there's not that familiarity with and then

1157
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: you'll truly know that the conversations that are going on

1158
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: in April and may in the classroom really get to

1159
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: the point where you're seeing the results on the field.

1160
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: Good point. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I

1161
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: like that. And to add to the point of the

1162
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: blitzing going down from Arizona, my understanding was he kind

1163
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: of was afraid to blitz because the secondary there were

1164
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: a lot of holes back there, so you couldn't rely

1165
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: on the coverage on the back end to kind of

1166
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: put himself at risk. So maybe that's skewed the blitz

1167
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: person eage and whatnot. So I think it just seems

1168
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: like he brought in players that fit the scheme that

1169
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: maybe will help that percentage go up and he can

1170
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: do more of you know, what he's prone to do

1171
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: and what he's successful at doing in Arizona. Yes, Scott,

1172
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: not again, I appreciate the call. Thanks a lot. I agree.

1173
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: That's probably the reason James Betcher has never verbalized that,

1174
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: nor would he ever because he would never take shots

1175
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: at his players that were on the field from last year.

1176
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, if you don't think your guys

1177
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: can cover for long back there, you're not gonna blitz

1178
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: as much and put him out on islands. It's just

1179
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: kind of the way it goes hand at hand. And

1180
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: also be aware related to that, John, if we're talking

1181
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: about it's such a young secondary, how much of a

1182
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: risk does he truly want to take this season. I'm

1183
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: not saying that the numbers are not going to approve,

1184
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: but do you want to leave all your young guys

1185
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: op said Genora's Jenkins on islands. You don't think the

1186
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: opposed quarterback is gonna start to pick on a rookie

1187
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: more so than Genora's Jenkins. He's gonna have to wait

1188
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: and see with that. Yeah, your second, there's only me

1189
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: as good as your worst cover, guys, because the teams

1190
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: will attack them again again. Tito in Alabama. He's up

1191
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: next day, Tito. Hey, guys, listen, first time caller. Enjoy

1192
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you, Hey, listen big time. Eli Manning

1193
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: fan and I think what we have to keep in

1194
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: check is is that you know, our receivers and our

1195
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: teams falling down on Eli and he's getting all the

1196
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: criticism and you know, looking for a new quarterback. I

1197
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: think Eli's like best game I ever saw, and I've seen,

1198
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: you know a lot of them, including the Super Bowls.

1199
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Was he came out fire on that Packers game. On

1200
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he did he could not miss and our

1201
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: receivers could not catch them ball. You're right about that. Yeah,

1202
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: And and I mean, I so I can understand Land

1203
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, these guys have to step up,

1204
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: and they really do. They all have to step up.

1205
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know the Scots, but

1206
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: I mean, how many drop balls were there last year

1207
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: from our receivers and including Beckham had him. Um, I

1208
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: know Evan Ingram had like you know, Key one as well,

1209
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: and I think he's really one of the major guys

1210
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: that have to step up this year. And I know

1211
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: you guys feel had a bunch of calls before in

1212
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: the last week and stuff about him, and you guys

1213
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: are pretty high on him. But in fairness, I'm not

1214
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: as high as on him as you guys. Or he's

1215
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: gotta he's the first round draft to he has to

1216
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: start making some serious place. No, Tino, you're right, you know, Tino,

1217
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: You're Tino. You're a hundred percent right. He's got all

1218
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: the physical ability to be that matchup night and there.

1219
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: But you're right, he's gotta do two things. He's got

1220
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: to stay healthy and he's got to cut that on

1221
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: the drops, and he cut that on the drops last year.

1222
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: He did a better job with that. But yes, you're correct,

1223
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: the potential is there. Has he shown he can be

1224
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Graham matchup tight end consistently yet though he

1225
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: has not so when that you we saw flashes in

1226
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: the final four games of last season. His numbers were consistent.

1227
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: He was a top playmaker for the team. But once again,

1228
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: I would say, just like I voiced with the wide

1229
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: receiver is also of relatively small sample size, so he

1230
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 1: gets thrown in that show me label, no doubt about

1231
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: it as well. And I can tell a point and

1232
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: real quick, Tito. I looked it up. According to Pro

1233
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: Football Focus, drops last year Stolen Shepherd eight, Barkley five,

1234
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: Ingram three, Beckham three, uh Goldman to Ellison to Coleman.

1235
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: Shepherd and Fowler each had one. So there were twenties

1236
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: six total from the team last year according the Pro

1237
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: Football Focus. And how did that rank amongst like the

1238
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: NFC with an average that at that I don't have

1239
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: for you. Sorry, alright, alright, no problem. I know you

1240
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: guys got a lot of college and hey, appreciate the call, Tito.

1241
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I'll try to look up the other at least the

1242
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: three teams in the division as Charlie and Portland. Maine

1243
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: makes his point to close out the program, chuckles, Hey, John,

1244
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing? Could be better? You just called,

1245
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: but anyway, go ahead, Hey, I got I got one

1246
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: thing and then another. You know, you guys use a

1247
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: lot dispray. You know that's fair, and I want to

1248
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: know what that means? Does that mean mediocre, Like your

1249
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: point is half and half. Yeah, for you, it means

1250
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: mediocre for you, it means mediocre for everybody else. When

1251
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: I say that's fair, that means that that's a notable

1252
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: point and it's a point that you should take it.

1253
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: Think it's Charlie for me, Charlie. When I say that's fair,

1254
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: it might be a criticism I don't necessarily personally agree with,

1255
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: but based on the information available, I understand why somebody

1256
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: would make a criticism like that. That's why I use it.

1257
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: So you don't you know, if if someone like if

1258
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: you come out and say a point like, oh, I

1259
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: think this guy doesn't have any left in the tank,

1260
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe based on what you've seen, I'm like,

1261
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: all right, that's a fair point. I don't agree with you,

1262
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: but I at least I understand where you're coming from.

1263
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: That's kind of when I use the word fair for you, Charlie, though,

1264
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: will give grading like I'll say that's fair fair. I

1265
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: don't know what you were saying for or or if

1266
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: these different context, what is Charlie's mental health? You could

1267
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: say it's fair. It's fair, yeah, but fair for him,

1268
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: that's good. That's uh. Some a respectable number. And or

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00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: if I asked Lens, how do you feel in Charlie

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00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: calls and he says, uh, not really fair, then that's bad. Hey,

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00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: look I'm gonna tag team match with Len. He just

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00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: tagged me on Mac on the ring, Chad about Chad Wheeler.

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: This guy hasn't been a he. I mean, he was

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00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: graded like under fifty for Pro Football Focus as a

1275
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: as a right tackle. And this guy, why do you

1276
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: want this guy as your swing tackle? Charlie? I didn't, Charlie.

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00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: First of all. First of all, we called you called

1278
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: up two months ago and yelled at me about what

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00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: a huge upgrade Wheeler was over Flowers that I tried

1280
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: to tell you he wasn't. Now you're calling up you

1281
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: try to throw the guy off the dad team. Look

1282
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: present upgrade over Flowers because the least Wheeler has a

1283
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: better attitude than Flowers ever had. That was the upgrade Wheeler.

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01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: That Wheeler does have a better Okay, So so, Charlie,

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: So if you don't want Wheeler on the team, who

1286
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: are you now? Hot on the trails of who's the

1287
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: next guy that should replace him? Andrew Davis is out there?

1288
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: Bring him in of course, it's of course a guy

1289
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: that your butcher is named number one, which I'm not surprised.

1290
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: Number two, it's not even a guy on this roster. Which,

1291
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: so at least you consistent, Charlie, I'll give you credit

1292
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: for that. Somebody up in September. I'm telling you pick

1293
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: him up. Andrew Davis. Andrew Davis. Did you know about

1294
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: how good of an offensive line and Andrew Davis, by

1295
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, Charlie, just magnificent. Oh so now it's

1296
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: a dance. And so now now you're just gonna find

1297
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: some random guy not named by the way, maybe Brian

1298
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: Mallick beats out Chat Wheeler for the swing tackle spot.

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: That's not impossible. Sure he can, Charlie. I'm not well, Charlie.

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that if Wheelers who you wind

1301
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: up with, at least it's somebody that you've seen play

1302
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: before and you know it's a clue of what he's doing.

1303
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: The Air Force here, Okay, good, Well, that's good. At

1304
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: least we are well protected. Well well, hopefully hopefully the

1305
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: people at the Army finally found you and they're gonna

1306
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: put you back in the hole where they found you.

1307
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: They're focusing on the truth threats to this country. That's good.

1308
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad that the government is going to work. You want.

1309
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: You're narrative about, oh, anybody could getting You're just like

1310
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: from going through the parking lot to uh to uh,

1311
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, the training room and and uh, the same

1312
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: as somebody catching up on the NFL. I'm sure the

1313
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: percentages are totally not Do you have the numbers in

1314
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: front of you, Charlie, Yeah, I do, a high just

1315
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: like if you were driving would be you would have

1316
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: a higher percentage of getting it an access. That's true.

1317
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: That's sure, Thank you, Charlie. Yeah, great, I gotta tell

1318
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: you the fairy tale numbers that Charlie throws out of

1319
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: Paula Tino's walks can be perilous though, first of all,

1320
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: downright frightening. He took it to hyperbole three four times

1321
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: of what normally I would say, which I'm not necessarily surprised. Yeah,

1322
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean I was tongue in cheek with respect to

1323
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: a guy walking to the locker room or whatever. I

1324
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: really truly meant an offensive player, defensive player of special

1325
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: teams played to me, you have an exposure of getting hurt,

1326
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's a crazy line at all,

1327
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: as if special teams plays are ten times safer than

1328
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: any other place, So when you're running up the field

1329
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: and you're trying to block eyes, there's no chance that

1330
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: you could twist an ankle or get hurt or go

1331
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: down awkwardly. Kamar, Charlie, thank you Lens, no problem, and

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: thank you callers, Thank you polks on Twitter, and join

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01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: us tomorrow for another episode of Big Blue Kick Golf

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Corps Light. We have practiced later on today.

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Speaker 1: We'll have those reports on the website later on in

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01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: the afternoon, and then of course tomorrow morning. Make sure

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Speaker 1: he checks out again on giants dot com for more

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01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: on the last few o t s and then Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kick Golf Live returns tomorrow at twelve. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you then, everybody, Audios, how going