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Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck, Brian over there,

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Speaker 1: and Jerry flitted in and out like a little COVID

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Speaker 1: ferry and uh, this is this is stuff you should know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you want the COVID ferry to visit. Uh,

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Speaker 1: how about the COVID safety Faery. You want the soap ferry? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because the soap faery can take on the COVID ferry

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Speaker 1: and smack that bword down. Yeah. And more specifically, it

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Speaker 1: can pry it open and say, spill out your guts, yeah,

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Speaker 1: correct virus. It's pretty amazing what it does. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like soap just just from like just this research. I'm

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Speaker 1: and knowing how it actually works is really neat. And

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Speaker 1: hopefully this convinces some people that it does work better

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Speaker 1: than hand sanitizer. Yeah, rather than just running your your

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Speaker 1: Dr Brauner's because they are soap makers and they also requested,

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Speaker 1: um this this episode years ago. Yeah, they rode in

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Speaker 1: and we had their uh big Jumbo daddy uh liquid

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Speaker 1: had that that Casteel soap fight, the Great cast Steel

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Speaker 1: Soap Fight of of of the Odds. Yeah, twelve. No,

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Speaker 1: they're stuck good. And you know, if it wasn't for

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Speaker 1: like their stuff. I feel like you can do both. Now. No, okay,

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Speaker 1: So um, there's a very similar thing going on with

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Speaker 1: So so let's let's give an example here, Chuck. Let's

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Speaker 1: the other things I like about ket steel stub with

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Speaker 1: um Dr Bruner's and Emilies in particular, is that your

425
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: hands feel washed afterwards to it doesn't feel like you've

426
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: missed any like there's a residue. It's like it's gone,

427
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: but it also has left behind like a clean feeling.

428
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: It's it's just its own thing for sure. Yeah. And

429
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, since we're talking about this, I uh want

430
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: to say a huge thanks to people that went out

431
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 1: and bought stuff from her store after the Essential Oils episode.

432
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: UM We've given her plenty of shout outs over the years,

433
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: and there's always been a little little spikes in her business.

434
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: But I think the topic and small business and hurting

435
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: because of the coronavirus and everything kind of came together

436
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: and they've been overwhelmed with support and it's been really

437
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: really sweet and a little bit much even, but it's

438
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: been it's kind of like, be careful what you asked for,

439
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, right. That's that's um and Buzz corporate buzz speak.

440
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: They say, that's a good problem to have. Yeah, So

441
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: if you're gonna order soap, just wait a week or two. Okay,

442
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: fair warning, everybody or just be prepared to wait a

443
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: week or two. In the back end, Hey, by the way,

444
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: you can also order something now too that you have

445
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: to wait for, and that would be our book, an

446
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: incomplete compendium of mostly interesting things, which you can order

447
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: right now anywhere you buy books, and if you're lucky

448
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: enough to live in the United States and Canada currently,

449
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: you get a free poster as a gift or preorder. Wow,

450
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: that's that was a nice segue, my friend. Thank you

451
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: so for It took hundreds and hundreds of years, thousands

452
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: of years, Chuck, think about us, thousands of years after

453
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: the invention of soap before we finally started to use

454
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: it on ourselves. And then apparently it wasn't until after

455
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: the Civil War, at least in the United States that

456
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: that using soap really took off, and soap making and

457
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: the soap making industry became like kind of a thing

458
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: all around the same time. Yeah, like I think Ivory

459
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: soap was released in eight nine. Um, Paul Mallive was

460
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: released around the same time. And I never realized Paul

461
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: mall of soap is so named because it has palm

462
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: oil and olive oil in it. Did you know that

463
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. But you know, I know those are two

464
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: potential soap ingredients, and palm oil is a little controversial

465
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: these days because of the way it's sourced. Yeah, and

466
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have to go down that rabbit hole.

467
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: But just when you're shopping for stuff, just sort of

468
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: try and figure out where that stuff is coming from,

469
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. Um, and then let's see what else.

470
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: Life Boy, the one that Ralphie hated so much. I

471
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: was that Life Boy. Yeah, yeah, that one came out.

472
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: And what was remarkable about Life Boy, UM is that

473
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: it was Um. They were the ones who coined the

474
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: term body odor b O as part of a marketing

475
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: campaign to get you to actually buy in use soap.

476
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I feel like we must

477
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: have talked about about that in our body Odor episode,

478
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I do like that Little

479
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: Ivory story too, though. That Um. In eighteen seventy nine,

480
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: a soap maker at PNG made a mistake, as the

481
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: legend goes, and forgot to turn off the mixer and

482
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: then that whipped a bunch of air in there. This

483
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: is what happens when you over mixed something and uh

484
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: shipped him out anyway, because he was like, I don't

485
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: want to get, you know, pinned for this. And apparently

486
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote in We're like I love

487
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: that floating soap, and that was sort of always a

488
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: selling point for Ivory was that it floats. Yeah, and

489
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: the moral of the stories that they fired him anyway

490
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: for withholding the information. That's right, Jimmy Ivory. Yeah, they

491
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: kept his name. He kept his name. Uh. And then

492
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: the hand soap uh. In eighteen sixty five, William Shephard

493
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: patented the first liquid soap, but it took all the

494
00:27:54,640 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: way until nineteen eighty when you know soft soap came around. Yeah.

495
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Did you know the story from

496
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: the Minnetonka Corporation. I didn't previous to reading this. This

497
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: is so great. So the Minnetonka Corporation are the ones

498
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: who debuted soft soap. And before then it was like

499
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: you have bar soap, that was your option. But in

500
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Night they said, we're gonna release this and I think

501
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be a big deal. So we're gonna

502
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: go around and buy up all of the the soap

503
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: pumps that anybody could possibly use, and they cornered the

504
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: market on liquid soap, just from buying up all the

505
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: soap pumps. You think that's a good thing before they

506
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: release as far as like from the lens of a

507
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: robber baron. Okay, it's a great thing. It's like it

508
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: seems like a jerk move to me. At the very least.

509
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: It's a good story, you know. And everyone they talked

510
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: to you, they were like, oh, no, go out and

511
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: make liquid soap. What you're gonna put it in? Yeah?

512
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Deliver it by hand to

513
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: people and just be like here, hold your hands, to

514
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: cut your hands. We'll give you some of our liquid soap.

515
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: You gotta wrap in paper. I don't think so it's true.

516
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh and speaking you wrapped in paper, I have one

517
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: more little piece of lower soap. Lower. Do you ever

518
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: use Irish spring? I did in college. Okay, yeah, that's

519
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: the appropriate time to use Irish spring. Father um. Do

520
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you know that scent? There's actually a name for it.

521
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: It's not like publicly named, but internally I think Colgate

522
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: palm Olive. It's called Ulster scent Ulster fragrance um. And

523
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: when they came out with Irish Spring, it wasn't debuted

524
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: in Ireland. No one in Ireland invented it. It was

525
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: actually invented in Germany in nineteen seventy and then it

526
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: made its way to the United States in nineteen seventy two,

527
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: and initially for the first like decade that Irish Spring

528
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: was around. On the package it said a manly deodorant soap.

529
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: How interesting for men. They couldn't call it German spring either,

530
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: because that sounds like some kind of Nazi offensive or something.

531
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: They they called the Irish Spring, but in German. Remember

532
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: how it's pronounced. M hmmm, I don't remember that one.

533
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: You can't put two and two together from that. No, ye, Well,

534
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can find it while we're still talking. Okay,

535
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: So should we talk about how you should wash your

536
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: hands since that's relevant? Yeah? I think so. And I

537
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: know we talked about this some on the COVID episode,

538
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: But um, I love the way that this doctor put it.

539
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: It was a health official. I think that said wash

540
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: your hands like you've been chopping jalapenos, and you need

541
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: to change out your contact lenses. That's a really great advice.

542
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: It was sort of like when we did this reminds

543
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: me of when we did poison ivy and they said

544
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: you need to scrub like there's grease, like auto black

545
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: auto grease on your body. Do you remember saying that? No,

546
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: I mean that that was just the advice from the

547
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: poison IVY episode. Okay, but that's what I'm saying, Like,

548
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember giving that advice. I'm I'm impressed as

549
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: I remember that, because you gotta get that that the

550
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: poison of off your body and it's it's very greasy.

551
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: I got poison ivy again the other day. Man, It's terrible.

552
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: How bad. It was very concentrated in a small area

553
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: I think, on my genitals, on my ankle, around my ankle,

554
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: I think, but it was like um, but it was

555
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: just a study and self control not to touch it.

556
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: I had zero calumine lotion or anything like that that

557
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: I could use. It was bad. I officially get it now,

558
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: because I think when we recorded that I had not yet. Uh,

559
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was allergic or whatever. But I've

560
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: since gotten it a couple of times, including a couple

561
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, just like you. Wow, not much though,

562
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: just a couple of tiny little spots. Maybe yours was

563
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: sympathy poison ivy maybe because I had it, you know, yeah,

564
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: my genitals itched. Your genitals always itching sympathy from it? Oh? Man,

565
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: I think how many times have we said that? Now? Eight?

566
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: We should put in a little ding a buzzer or something.

567
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Let's see we can get Jerry to do that. All right? Hey,

568
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: do you want to know what Irish spring is in German? Yeah? Irish? Sure? Freeling? Yeah,

569
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: all right? How is my German great? Is that how

570
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: you would say it? Irish? Er? I guess? So how's

571
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: it spelled? Just Irish with an e R no I

572
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: r I s c h. Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right, okay,

573
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: and then freeling there's even an oom laut I love

574
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: tho zoom outs. So do you want to take a

575
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: break and talk about how to wash hands? Or do

576
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: you want to wash hands and then take a break. Now,

577
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: let's let's take that break. Okay, everybody, we'll be right back.

578
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wash our hands. We're gonna do it.

579
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: You gotta wet them, you gotta start with water, gotta

580
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: soap up, and then you gotta really start scrubbing, and

581
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: especially now these days when they've and this is just

582
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: you should just do this from now to the end

583
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: of time, now that we really know how to watch hands. Uh,

584
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, scrub those palms, scrub the backs, getting between

585
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: those fingies, getting getting those fingy nails. Uh. They say

586
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: to seeing Happy Birthday a couple of times. Sure, if

587
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: you know them. Um, I like to use Uh, I'd

588
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: like to use really hot water just because it makes

589
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: me feel like I'm getting them cleaner. It hurts me,

590
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: does it really? Yeah? He's cold water? No no, no, no,

591
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. Um, but I do like warm water, warm

592
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: towards the hot side, but definitely not hot like I

593
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't care drives it as hot? Yeah, like it's so

594
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: hot it can barely stand it. Really? Oh boy? That

595
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: to me, it's just a shy away from that. Uh.

596
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: And here's something that I've been wanting to say for

597
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: a long long time because this has been one of

598
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Emily's big uh sort of things. Is stuck in her craw? Is?

599
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: I guess that's not the right things. Something stuck in

600
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: your craw? No, that's not quite right, but you know

601
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, A thorn in her side? Okay, I

602
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: could see both working. Is that antibacterial soap is not

603
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: more effective people it's not. It's not it's not. No,

604
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: And in fact, it's actually kind of harmful in the

605
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: larger scheme of things. But it doesn't do anything that

606
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: soap can't do. No, you're falling for some marketing gobbledegook.

607
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: Stop it. And I mean it makes sense. You would

608
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: think like, Okay, I'm washing my hands, but I'm also

609
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: washing my hands with something that has an antibacterial agent,

610
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: and so it's killing stuff. And yes, it kills some things,

611
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: it's true, um, But the problem is is the stuff

612
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: that it doesn't kill stays around and evolves to be

613
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: resistant to those anti bio bacterial agents, right, And the

614
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: problem is that those same bugs aren't just on your

615
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: hands and don't just encounter soap. We use antibiotics against them,

616
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: but if they've learned to be resistant from soap washing

617
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: by you know, billions of people every day, um, it

618
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: makes it way harder to kill them with antibiotics. And

619
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: so they finally figured out that some of the antibiotic

620
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: resistant bugs that we were starting to see, we're basically

621
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: in training through antibacterial soap. And eventually the I think

622
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: the f d A band two of the ingredients that

623
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: that were commonly used in antibacterial soap. Right, Yeah, they

624
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: ban tri closen and triclocarbon and said use regular soap. Everybody.

625
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: The FDA said that it's not just me talking no,

626
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: And I mean, it's because is it that that regular

627
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: soap does all the same things that that anti bacterial

628
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: soap does too? And I have to say chuck. So

629
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about handwashing. One of the things that I

630
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: found astounding in all this is that so handwashing is

631
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: so prevalent now, but it's not like it was anything

632
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: new when the when the COVID pandemic came around, right,

633
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: But apparently it's still relatively new as far as handwashing

634
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: guidelines go. That wasn't until the eighties that the CDC

635
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: issued their first handwashing guidelines, and that was for hospitals.

636
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: Hospitals didn't have handwashing guidelines issued by the CDC until

637
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: the eighties. Isn't that astounding? It is? But I wonder

638
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: if that was just because they were like, uh, duh everybody,

639
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: and then someone said, well, you should probably just codify it.

640
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw that it was in response

641
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: to some hospital acquired infection outbreaks. So maybe the CDC

642
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: was like you know this right. And it turns out

643
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: that hospitals like no, not really yeah, very interesting, doctors

644
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 1: were walking around touching their genitals and doing surgery. Yeah.

645
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: So here's another thing. Liquid soap versus bar soap. You

646
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: would think that, and I think a lot of people

647
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: may be disgusted by bar soap that other people use,

648
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: especially when they're hairy. But they have done studies. They

649
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: did a study in nineteen sixty five where they contaminated

650
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: uh the hands of the researchers with five million bacteria

651
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: and then had them wash their hands and then had

652
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: other people afterward, and found that the bacteria was not

653
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: transferred to the second user. Uh. This was confirmed in

654
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: with another study. Uh. And what they came the conclusion

655
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: they came to basically is there could be some surface

656
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: bacteria on a bar soap that's just left out like that,

657
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: but it definitely doesn't transmit infection. Huh. Well why wouldn't it,

658
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, because they soap. They just showed that

659
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: it didn't. Huh. Yeah, they showed that it didn't transmit infection.

660
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's uh the

661
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: properties of the soap at work, or maybe it just

662
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: doesn't live that long on on a surface like that.

663
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see soap not being

664
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: a very hospitable surface for microbes. But when I do

665
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: pick up bar soap in the shower, like I always

666
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: give it a rints off first. You get it wet,

667
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: get thee get the layer of gunk off first. You know, Yeah,

668
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, And I think I think people probably

669
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: would be grossed out if public restaurants just had a

670
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: bar soapen there. But it's it's not gonna get you sick.

671
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: But but I get it. You know, you have those

672
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: pumps of individual soaps. I get it. It's true. Plus

673
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: also usually when you encounter liquid soap um it has

674
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: like other stuff in it that maybe moisturizes your hands

675
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: or does your things that a bar soap might not.

676
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: What's the deal with detergent so here's the thing. Most

677
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you have in your bathroom right

678
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: now that you consider soap are actually detergents. A detergent

679
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: is simply a synthetic soap. The only way for something

680
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: to qualify as a soap is for it to have

681
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: gone through supontification station. CRU's right past. I'm glad this

682
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: came up because Uh, Emily came through when I was researching, researching,

683
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, soap isn't even soap anymore.

684
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: She's like, they can, they can call it soap legally,

685
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: but it's not even soap. Yeah. So, so you've got

686
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: your fats and you've got your um alkaline, and you

687
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: put them together and they undergo supontification, and you have soap.

688
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: If you don't start with fats and alkalines and they

689
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: don't undergo spontification, you have something that does the same

690
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: thing and in many cases is even more desire, has

691
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: more desirable traits than just natural soap. But it's just

692
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: not soap. It's a detergent. And the first detergents, and

693
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: plenty of detergents still around today were derived from um

694
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: synthetic chemicals that came from petroleum. Actually, yeah, because the

695
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: deal was is once they figured out soap many many

696
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: years ago, they just washed everything with soap, uh, clothes

697
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: and your dishes, and they would clean floors and it

698
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: was you know, it's that's not what it was made for.

699
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: So it would leave a residue. It's called soap scum.

700
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: And especially when it's mixed with hard water, if it's

701
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: really high in mineral salt, magnesium and calcium, it's gonna

702
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: make a lot of soap scum. And it was a

703
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: big problem back in the old days when it would

704
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: be left over on your kitchen floor or you know,

705
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: big time on your washing machine. Yeah, well that was

706
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: a big, big problem because washing machines came out before

707
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: laundry detergent did, and it could really gum up the

708
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: works when you had a soap scum layer that was

709
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: hard as concrete on that's right. But detergent it's solved

710
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: all that it did um because detergent doesn't leave soap

711
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: scumb because it doesn't interact with calcium and magnesium in

712
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: hard water, which made it vastly preferable to use for laundry,

713
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: which is by the first detergents that they ever came

714
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: out with were laundry detergents, and specifically, from what I saw,

715
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: the first detergent was draft in, which is still around today.

716
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: You can get draft really yeah, yeah, it's still very

717
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: much around and in Canada it's called ivory snow because

718
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: Canadians just weird with everything. I've heard of Ivory Snow

719
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: didn't giving draft everything. Well, Draft came around and that

720
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: handled like pretty decently soiled things, but nothing nothing too heavy.

721
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: Uh And so was it the same company that went

722
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: on to create Tied. I'm pretty sure it was Procter

723
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: and Gamble that did Draft. Did they do Tied? To

724
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: mm hmm. I want to say yes, I want to too,

725
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get it. Would actually go

726
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: with yes, okay. Uh. The next one, yeah, the next

727
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: big one in three was Tied, and that was a

728
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: combination of these synthetic surfactants and something called Builders, and

729
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: the Builders kind of worked in concert with the synthetic

730
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: surfactants to just kind of get out tougher stains. And

731
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty six they brought it onto the test

732
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: market as a heavy duty detergent. Everyone loved it and

733
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: it's this is kind of cool, but where did you

734
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: get this? Actually, this piece, I think that one was

735
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: from Thought Company. And I also want to give a

736
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: shout out to another Thought Company piece that was written

737
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: by an historian named Judith Ridner who gave us a

738
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 1: lot of the history stuff too well. Tide has tried

739
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: to improve it a lot over the years, and has

740
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: not stopped. And it says that each year they basically

741
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: try and duplicate mineral content of the water in all

742
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: parts of the US. Like what what? What are all

743
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: the kinds of water that we have in the United States?

744
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: And let's do fifty test loads with tie just to

745
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: make sure we're still up to snuff. Yeah, every year,

746
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: fifty thousand test loads. Imagine being the person in charge

747
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: of that laundry, wouldn't you just go just totally out

748
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: of it? Pretty bad? Fifty thousand. I wouldn't make it

749
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: to fifty. Yeah, Undy taking a stand against laundry um.

750
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Although I have to say so. One of the things

751
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: we're talking about castile soap um in addition to just

752
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: being soap, it doesn't it's known to do a lot

753
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: of stuff, and one of the things supposedly is laundry.

754
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: So I did a test on a grease staying on

755
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: some shorts with some cast steel soap, and I will

756
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: report back eventually to let you know if it worked. Okay,

757
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: where was treated? It on the leg? Not too far

758
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: from the genitals. Now that you mentioned ding ding so

759
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: um so a detergent again, it's just a synthetic a

760
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: synthetic soap and it doesn't do anything differently. But the

761
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: reason why companies preferred detergents is because they can control

762
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: it a lot more. It's something that they create themselves.

763
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: They don't have to rely on nature. They don't have

764
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: to keep um a high priest on the payroll to

765
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: oversee the goat sacrifices to get the tall. Oh, it's

766
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: just a lot easier to control from beginning to end. Um.

767
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: The problem is is a lot of times some of

768
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: those stuff, some of those um synthetic detergents can be

769
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: um harsh on your skin. Yeah, they can dry things out,

770
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: It can be irritants for sure. If you have xema,

771
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: that's that's definitely something that you might or dermatitis. And uh,

772
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Emily has had a lot of success with people that

773
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: specifically use her soap because it's real soap and they

774
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: had excellent skin problems and that really helped it out. Yeah. Yeah,

775
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: because I mean, like even soap haz it's high on

776
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: the on the pH scale, higher than natural skin pH,

777
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: but it's usually much lower than say like a detergent.

778
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: The thing is is modern chemistry and modern soap bank

779
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: and can can adjust things as needed to make things

780
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: easier on your skin for sure. Yeah, and those detergents

781
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: aren't great for getting that that gray water getting into

782
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: the eventual fresh water supply. It's no good for animals

783
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: and fishies especially no supposedly you know how soap surfactants.

784
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: Detergents are as well, which means that they break the

785
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: surface tension of water, which makes it easier for for

786
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: fish to um absorb all the gunk that we put

787
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: in the water. Along with detergents too, so it's bad

788
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: on that side. And it also stretches out and breaks

789
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: through their the membrane that keeps them gooey, which is

790
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: not good for fish either. It's no good fish just

791
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: need to use soap. I don't know what their problem is.

792
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: Get clean you and smell so fishy? Right? Have you

793
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: got anything else about soap? Got nothing else? Use it? People?

794
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Wash your hands a lot, yep, wash your hands. Everybody

795
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: say you're abc, say happy birthday twice, but really get

796
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: a good latherer going and wash them a lot. Okay, Okay,

797
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: And since we said okay a couple of times and genitals,

798
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: god knows how many times, it's time for a listener

799
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: to me, I'm gonna call this hot off the presses. Uh.

800
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: You guys don't know this, but we are playing it

801
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: dangerously close here lately with our recording schedule, too close

802
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: for our comfort. So things that we're recording are coming

803
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: out days later, and that means the corrections are coming

804
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: just days later. So this was about the recently released

805
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: Billy the kid Win. Hey, guys, love the show. It

806
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: seriously keeps my work day interesting. Just listen to the

807
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: ability to kids short stuff and really enjoyed it. But

808
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: I thought i'd share a tidbit of info. You mentioned

809
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: that Billy went to slice up a bit of yearling.

810
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: Uh a k A horse meat for most coital snack.

811
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm from Wyoming and my family raised his horses as

812
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: well as beef and show cattle. I just thought i'd share.

813
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: In the livestock industry, technically almost all live stock is

814
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: a yearling once they've hit a year of age, especially

815
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: especially common to call younger butcher cattle yearlings. Um. And

816
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: then I looked up the movie The Yearling. Remember that

817
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 1: it's about that little baby deer. So oh, I thought

818
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: that was about a horse too. I think it's about

819
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: a deer or at least there's a deer on the cover. Well,

820
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: that's probably about a deer. That very misleading of it.

821
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: Was it either that or like the person who was

822
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: in charge of the cover design didn't bother to read

823
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: the book. Well, Jewel says this. While it's very possible

824
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: it was a horse, because people did eat horses back then.

825
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Yearling horses have don't have much meat on them, so

826
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: unless the family was really starving, it's unlikely they butcher

827
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: a horse that young for dinner. More than likely, Billy

828
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: was carving up a little bit of beef. Okay, that

829
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: makes a little more sense. But is this from Jewel?

830
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: Did you say as a Jewel? The singer, well, it's

831
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: from a Jewel. I don't know if I don't think

832
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: it's No, it's not because I'm looking at the last

833
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: name now, Okay, I don't know what Jewel's last name is.

834
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize she had a last name. I

835
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: want to say it's Cuture or something like that. Okay, Well,

836
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: either way, she's great because I was listening to some

837
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: of her old stuff not too long ago for SERI reason, yeah,

838
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is still really good music. Okay, Yeah,

839
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: give Jewel a listen, Chuck, I think you'd be like

840
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: Josh is right. Well, thank you Jewel for writing though. Yeah,

841
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: thank you other Jewel for writing in And if you're

842
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: the same Jewel, I'm onto you. If you want to

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Speaker 1: get in touch with this, like Jewel did, you can

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Speaker 1: send an email. Like Jewel did, go ahead and send

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Speaker 1: it off to Stuff Podcasts at iHeart radio dot com.

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Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeart Radio's

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Speaker 1: How Stuff Works for more podcasts for my heart Radio

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Speaker 1: because at the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or where

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