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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: Or my name is Dan Hansens and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: the Room Build the sub heroes, Mark Sessler and Greg Rosatal.
Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Oh, we're not tanking. The Jets
Speaker 1: aren't tanking. Bills aren't tanking. Bills aren't tanking. Sam Donald
Speaker 1: might be tanking. But that's save it for the Shepherding
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Speaker 1: know exactly who you are and what you're trying to do. Great,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm great? I'm great too. I'm happy
Speaker 1: because for the second straight week, a lot of great games.
Speaker 1: The It's interesting now that I think about I haven't
Speaker 1: even really thought about it. The NFL was at the
Speaker 1: center of the universe, or at least our country last
Speaker 1: week with all the anthem protests. It was not um
Speaker 1: as big as storyline, at least on the surface. Maybe
Speaker 1: we're into deep during Sunday's really know what's going on,
Speaker 1: But I didn't. It didn't sense to be near what
Speaker 1: was going on last week. And it's not that does
Speaker 1: mean the stories over, But this week I felt like
Speaker 1: it was more a standard NFL week and a lot
Speaker 1: of good games, fair, unfair, still, a lot statements still,
Speaker 1: every broadcast showing the national anthems, a lot of strong feelings,
Speaker 1: certainly turned down from a week ago. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: want to make it seem like I'm saying like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we're moving past that now. It's not that it was
Speaker 1: just exactly what you're saying that last week all that
Speaker 1: the NFL forget about the games, des abite, how good
Speaker 1: to get that was the story of the week. This week,
Speaker 1: that's still going on. But there's a lot of fool
Speaker 1: anytime you get into the second, third, fourth iteration of
Speaker 1: something that was very new and very unusual last week.
Speaker 1: It's going to take on a bit of it. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and then there's been a lot more in one tweet.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately there was. There were great games today, but there
Speaker 1: it was also tons of I felt like this was
Speaker 1: the first injuries really started impacting things. Sunday of the year.
Speaker 1: Hate that. Hate injuries. And there are some big ones
Speaker 1: to go over, including some of the new young stars.
Speaker 1: At least one new young star in this league impacted.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. So much to get to and uh,
Speaker 1: why don't we do it? Why don't we dive in.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go, let's do Let's start, gentleman. Uh and
Speaker 1: the loose cannon behind the glass, Let's start mile high.
Speaker 1: They're going empty from the war, all right, Tony, calm down.
Speaker 1: I love Tony Romo, by the way, and we all
Speaker 1: love Tony Romo. But his enthusiasm it's getting he's it's
Speaker 1: getting higher and bigger every week. By the end of
Speaker 1: the season, he's just gonna blow a gasket. A little
Speaker 1: worried about at one point, like his voice was completely
Speaker 1: shot because he was just shouting to he has Greg
Speaker 1: greg is absolutely because Greg, and Greg is the guy
Speaker 1: I think I'm wondering about someone who loves football. No
Speaker 1: matter what you could say, this game is trash, and
Speaker 1: he'll give you eight reasons why it's a great game.
Speaker 1: Romo and Greg just e to get into a car
Speaker 1: and drive around the country again. Sometimes I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: worried that Greg's gonna lose control of his bowels. Sometimes
Speaker 1: he's so excited during games. But what let's hear Romo again,
Speaker 1: first and ten from the one yard line. They're going
Speaker 1: empty from the war and what happened in touchdown? I
Speaker 1: think the raid drive, yeah, d it was incredible. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe they heard there was a little bit of incredulity.
Speaker 1: If I'm pronouncing that correctly, I know what you're trying
Speaker 1: to say. I think it's close. He was, he was surprised.
Speaker 1: And I also think it's just the stadium is so
Speaker 1: loud that he gets excited. He's almost trying to scream
Speaker 1: over the stadium. Is it incredulous? Incredulous is the root?
Speaker 1: But the t y ending? Do you know? Mark? They'll
Speaker 1: be like, you guys are both wrong, but I won't
Speaker 1: say what it is. You're both wrong, and I don't
Speaker 1: need to get into it. Let's move on, all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the game. Manuel loads it up, home
Speaker 1: run ball that should be picked it as at the
Speaker 1: eight justin sevens with an interception at the Denver eight
Speaker 1: yard line and Denver's football first and ten with one
Speaker 1: forty six left. That was Dave Logan with the call.
Speaker 1: Broncos safety Justin Simmons sword in the air and high
Speaker 1: pointed the game ceiling interception. Uh, ceiling a sixteen to
Speaker 1: ten win for the Broncos over the Raiders and a
Speaker 1: meeting of Forever rivals at Mile High. That costly pick
Speaker 1: was thrown by E. J. Manuel, as you heard, who
Speaker 1: replaced Derek Carr after Car exited the game in the
Speaker 1: second half with a lower back injury. He got kneed
Speaker 1: in the back. I believe Mark. There is some talk that, uh,
Speaker 1: that he has back spasms, but no, it's not some
Speaker 1: type of hardcore Tony Romo injury. At least that's the
Speaker 1: initial thought that he he dodged a bolt there. But Greg,
Speaker 1: this was kind of like a two thousand fifteen like
Speaker 1: Broncos win, right, score enough points, let your defense close
Speaker 1: it out. It was in that they dominated up front
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and that's what really
Speaker 1: impressed me. They ran the ball very well, and I
Speaker 1: think you gotta look at the game in two parts
Speaker 1: when they when car went out for the Raiders, it
Speaker 1: was almost as if the Broncos sat on that lead
Speaker 1: a little too much. But they were running the ball
Speaker 1: extremely well against Oakland. And more worrisome for the Raiders
Speaker 1: is that Denver was dominating the game up front when
Speaker 1: the Raiders had the ball. So now this is two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row that the Raiders, who people thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the best offensive line in the league,
Speaker 1: aren't blowing open any holes in the running game. Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lynch held to twelve yards. I believe they had twenty
Speaker 1: four yards as a teacher, but that's that's outrageous. And
Speaker 1: Derek Carr was taking some hits. I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: was just a field day on them, but Von Miller,
Speaker 1: Derek Wolf, Shelby, Harris Peco has been a big factor
Speaker 1: in terms of the running games. Shack Barrett, suddenly you've
Speaker 1: got one of the better fronts in the league. Along
Speaker 1: with your friends in the old No Fly Zone. You're
Speaker 1: trying to get the Rocky Mountain Avalanche, but it's not happening.
Speaker 1: And now you've had another star potentially in Justin Simmons.
Speaker 1: This is why they cut T. J. Ward because this
Speaker 1: guy is so athletic and he made a game ceiling
Speaker 1: so encouraging for Denver coming out of that loss in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: where I I looked at and said, after they had
Speaker 1: beaten the Cowboys so decisively the week before, is this
Speaker 1: gonna be a week to week type of team where
Speaker 1: you can't really predict what you're gonna get back to
Speaker 1: their formula with C. J. Anderson And how good does
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles look right now? He looks revived and young
Speaker 1: and powerful and fast. I think they have the kind
Speaker 1: of backfield where you can hit him in so many
Speaker 1: different ways. They're doing a nice job with him too,
Speaker 1: They're not over using him. I I imagine if he
Speaker 1: continues to look good week after week, he'll start to
Speaker 1: get more and more work. But C. J. Anderson is
Speaker 1: doing the job as the primary ball carrier, and then
Speaker 1: Charles is kind of the breath of fresh air. I
Speaker 1: would look out here on the on the Raiders side
Speaker 1: of the ball, you know they're gonna be putting a
Speaker 1: lot on Car if the running game can't get going.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not making any statements about Marshall Lynch maybe
Speaker 1: not being Marshall Lynch anymore. But since week two, this
Speaker 1: is three games now, he's averaging less than three yards
Speaker 1: to carry, so he has not been running people over
Speaker 1: with regularity like the old beast mode. And Car is
Speaker 1: gonna need help and you hope he's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the field. But this is two straight weeks now, Greg
Speaker 1: where the Raiders, who are supposed to be an a
Speaker 1: f C superpower, look highly mortal, especially on offense, and
Speaker 1: that's what they're supposed to be built around. Defense, played
Speaker 1: well enough to win. They they got enough stops. The
Speaker 1: Raiders actually moved the ball better when E. J. Manuel
Speaker 1: came in. I don't think that would continue for very long. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jack do Yo did say we should mention that he
Speaker 1: believes that cars back spasm should be cleaned up quickly.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you know that. Right off the bat.
Speaker 1: He said there'll be some precautionary tests they host the
Speaker 1: Ravens next week, but that I just think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really hard for any of these teams to go
Speaker 1: into Denver and get a win against this defense, because
Speaker 1: I still feel like they have room to grow on
Speaker 1: offense that they didn't even really show today. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. First down. Golf takes the hand off
Speaker 1: on the fly suite and throws down the seam. It's
Speaker 1: caught inside moves. Girl is gonna go turn five touchdown
Speaker 1: l A. Todd gurl Is fifty three yard catch and
Speaker 1: run put his team ahead in the third quarter. And
Speaker 1: Greg the legs areline or Legatron, it's really your choice,
Speaker 1: dealer's choice. Hit all seven of his field goal attempts
Speaker 1: Matron to lead the Los Angeles Rams to a thirty
Speaker 1: five to thirty upset win over the Cowboys in Big
Speaker 1: D Jared Goff didn't turn the ball over and Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley again played like a star. Uh And now the
Speaker 1: Rams are three and one, and let's face it, they're
Speaker 1: one of the NFL surprises at the regular season quarter pole,
Speaker 1: no way around it. It's it's incredible to me that, yes,
Speaker 1: there are some new pieces here, but what an indictment
Speaker 1: on the previous coaching staff to have so many similar
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, but it's it's that's why the Rams.
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and the combination of Sean mcvah and Wade
Speaker 1: Phillips have turned the Rams into the one of the
Speaker 1: most watchable, enjoyable, and encouraging stories of the NFL season,
Speaker 1: with so many of the same tools that the last
Speaker 1: coaching staff could not here. Here's one thing, and I'll
Speaker 1: say Fisher didn't do a good job with the talent.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if at that stage of his
Speaker 1: career if he was invested enough to really be a
Speaker 1: successful coach. But I will say that it's not all
Speaker 1: on Jeff Fisher. French instance, Andrew Wentwethers. He's become one
Speaker 1: of the top players on this team. He's had one hurry,
Speaker 1: I believe, all seasons, so all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: have a lockdown left tackle and that his wonders for
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. So by getting the right coaches around
Speaker 1: goth that's helped him a lot. But also there have
Speaker 1: been some big additions to this team. Let's sneed their
Speaker 1: general manager and Sean McVeigh, who's certainly part of the
Speaker 1: you know, player personnel process, but it's sneed running the show.
Speaker 1: Had an incredible offseason. Think of who who's you know,
Speaker 1: the weapons for Jared Goff, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods, Sammy Watkins,
Speaker 1: and Whitworth. So those are all pickups and they're all
Speaker 1: coming through. I do think it should be noted for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys who started out this game, well, they were
Speaker 1: missing Sean Lee. And when I saw that before the game,
Speaker 1: I thought this team is gonna have trouble getting stops
Speaker 1: as it was because they're missing two young players in
Speaker 1: the secondary. They're already not very good there and they're
Speaker 1: missing two key contributors. And then you take away Shaun Lee.
Speaker 1: I think you know, Dave Damask has the Jenga piece theory,
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee is the Jenga piece for that defense. And
Speaker 1: when he's not on the field, I expected the Rams
Speaker 1: to to get some points. Which, yeah, Rams of offensive
Speaker 1: line which has been so rough so many years. The
Speaker 1: Windward thing absolutely what. He's a huge edition. One sack
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys after after the Cowboys and Dallas looks
Speaker 1: so ferocious last couple of weeks with DeMarcus Lawris and
Speaker 1: Lawrence and company. And if you watch this game, um,
Speaker 1: you were taken by and hats off to Wade Phillips
Speaker 1: who got a game ball afterwards beating his old team,
Speaker 1: a team that he that fired him once upon a time,
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys were it was almost like they were
Speaker 1: toying with the Rams. In the first half of this game.
Speaker 1: Does Bryant was involved, Dak Prescott was making plays like
Speaker 1: an offensive rookie of the year. UH did last year's
Speaker 1: zeke looked like the zeke of last year. And just
Speaker 1: even when the Rams are doing a nice job usually
Speaker 1: with a zerline field goal to to stay in the
Speaker 1: game and within striking distance, you kind of had the
Speaker 1: feeling it was just a matter of time before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys put him away. So you really got to give
Speaker 1: the Rams a ton of credit for being able to
Speaker 1: stop that momentum on the road and then be able
Speaker 1: to take the game and then hold onto the victory.
Speaker 1: This is a big boy win. Jerry Jones said after
Speaker 1: the game he he's never seen an assistant coach do
Speaker 1: a better job, giving his old UH friend Wade Phillips
Speaker 1: some love. In terms of halftime adjustments, they came out
Speaker 1: after halftime three punts, an interception, and that's what turned
Speaker 1: the game around because the Rams never really stopped scoring.
Speaker 1: They only were punted twice the whole game, and they
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over that that's ridiculous they had.
Speaker 1: This is an incredibly explosive offense. It's one of the
Speaker 1: most fun teams in the the league. We know Chris Wessling's
Speaker 1: back at his abode enjoying this Rams victory today. He is,
Speaker 1: he's enjoying the Rams. He he pegged the Rams back
Speaker 1: in the summer as a team that can make up
Speaker 1: a playoff run this year. We all like the Rams,
Speaker 1: and geez, let's talk about it. The team. This is
Speaker 1: a very special honor. I think it's time to call
Speaker 1: a vote. Guys. That's the director's cut right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been dancing around the Rams for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks now, and we get we get a lot of
Speaker 1: slack about you know, not the instant messenger client. We
Speaker 1: of course, we get a lot of flak about you
Speaker 1: guys take so long to pick a team at all. Right,
Speaker 1: we've been waiting to be whole. We're missing we're missing
Speaker 1: one of the four horsemen. But here's the thing. West
Speaker 1: is plugged in on the Rams. He's been on board.
Speaker 1: We reached out to West. He he signed off on
Speaker 1: the idea of the Rams being of a team in
Speaker 1: etil so Let's let's put a vote. Let's take it
Speaker 1: to a vote. Let's send it to a vote. Listen, Mark,
Speaker 1: let's start right here. A lot of times it's the
Speaker 1: log jam between the four of us that cannot agree,
Speaker 1: and it's leaves so one or two people interested in
Speaker 1: the Team of at L two others typically faking it,
Speaker 1: or like last year, it created total division when we
Speaker 1: picked the vikings and then they crumbled. Near case paranoia,
Speaker 1: but yeah, paranoia division, You choose whatever words you do.
Speaker 1: No one right now you can look at this team
Speaker 1: and say they don't don't match the core elements of
Speaker 1: Team of a t L. What are those core elements
Speaker 1: for me? They have to be fun to watch. They're
Speaker 1: not getting in my way of like my personal team,
Speaker 1: and no one is at this point, So that's fine.
Speaker 1: Brows are doing a good job. Yeah, I am enjoying
Speaker 1: the coaching staff on down the coaching elements important to me.
Speaker 1: I easily happily sign off on the rams. Okay, I
Speaker 1: will second that absolutely. What do you like in a
Speaker 1: team of a tale. It's a fun team, it's a
Speaker 1: young team. You like the coaching staff, Son of Bums
Speaker 1: evolved involved, and it's a local team, and I know
Speaker 1: they're probably NFL fans in St. Louis. Was like, how
Speaker 1: dare you well? The Rams were in l A team
Speaker 1: before they were St. Louis team. It's not the same
Speaker 1: issue of betrayal that some people through out there with
Speaker 1: the with the Chargers. Uh and perhaps rightly so. So
Speaker 1: I don't that's not a hang up for me. So
Speaker 1: I rubber stamp it. Yes, West earlier already has signed off.
Speaker 1: So Greg, come on, don't don't do the Greg thing.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't do it. You gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: go with us on this one. Body all I I
Speaker 1: love it, And all I can think about right now
Speaker 1: is somewhere in the Paramore mansion. The Paramore is listening
Speaker 1: to this, and she is the biggest ms on the earth,
Speaker 1: and she is hoping and praying as this final vote
Speaker 1: sitting out there, and I just gotta say, this one's
Speaker 1: for the Paramore. Let's do it. So they are the
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen team of a t L slash a
Speaker 1: t N is the Los Angeles Rams. Do not let
Speaker 1: us down like the Vikings did last year. That's our
Speaker 1: only warning. I'm also and if it, if if the
Speaker 1: season takes on a weird thing. But is this the
Speaker 1: earliest we picked a team? I feel like the Panthers
Speaker 1: when we started this was around the same time. Other
Speaker 1: seasons it took way tothers was early week four or five.
Speaker 1: All right, enough of the naval gazing. Let's move on
Speaker 1: more football now, spot kick is on the way and
Speaker 1: over in and it is good. There we go, come
Speaker 1: to New England and beating the defending Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: New England Patriots in a wild one thirty three to third,
Speaker 1: and we said quickly, if you keep this game closed,
Speaker 1: grab can no wind but a fil go to win
Speaker 1: the game? When go Yeah, they're pumped up, and so
Speaker 1: am I w B Team Mick mixing with the call,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're heading to the throne of Slee's. You
Speaker 1: don't have a choice. She does not want to play this.
Speaker 1: Graham Gano hit a warty eight yard field goal as
Speaker 1: time expired, and the Carolina Panthers stud the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots at Gillette. It was yet another law David that
Speaker 1: Patricia's defense as New England surrendered four total yards uh
Speaker 1: and made Cam Newton look like an m v P again, Greg,
Speaker 1: this is becoming a theme. The Patriots have a big
Speaker 1: problem to solve. Well, there's no more use of the
Speaker 1: word stunned when the worst defense in the league loses
Speaker 1: a game. For the Patriots, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think there'll be the worst defense in the league at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, but right now they can't
Speaker 1: get stops, they give up yards, they give up points,
Speaker 1: they don't get turnovers. The Stephan Gilmour is gonna really
Speaker 1: get picked on this week in the Boston media, so
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes, because he had two key
Speaker 1: penalties in the game that kept drives alive, including the
Speaker 1: game winning drive. Otherwise the Panthers would have been punting
Speaker 1: right there, and everyone thought it was gonna be another
Speaker 1: miracle comeback victory where Tom Brady seemed destined. Who has
Speaker 1: too much on his soldiers right now again lead them back,
Speaker 1: But there are searching for answers on defense, and until
Speaker 1: they start stacking a couple of solid games, I don't
Speaker 1: think any result with this team is stunning. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the Paramore and our other throne of sleeves hit where
Speaker 1: the alien zap Foxboro and her words, how great for
Speaker 1: our planet? I'm not saying that it's great for everyone.
Speaker 1: I understand that tam Posey behind the glass is like
Speaker 1: very very horrified to witness this season thus far. But
Speaker 1: how was it when Danny A. Mendola took that gigantic
Speaker 1: hit by a great third down catch? But did that
Speaker 1: you know kind of hurt you too, aren't you a
Speaker 1: Patriots fan? I am? I. I have to get over
Speaker 1: it by the time we're taping. At the moment, I
Speaker 1: was certainly annoyed, but we gotta tape first and foremost.
Speaker 1: Greg is a master troll. Then, like, you're so excited,
Speaker 1: you're excited right now? Hey, Hey, here's here's a message
Speaker 1: to Patriots fans. It's Week four. You've won more games
Speaker 1: and more super Bowls than you could ever hope for,
Speaker 1: including two of the more fortunate ones. In the last
Speaker 1: three years as a Patriots fan, all I ever hoped
Speaker 1: to get to was that fourth super Bowl. They now
Speaker 1: have five. And news flash, football doesn't really matter that
Speaker 1: much for an organization like the Patriots until November December
Speaker 1: and rounding into form. So wait and see how this goes.
Speaker 1: But I think they've earned some benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: Your head on your pillow until the red Sox started
Speaker 1: playoff run on Wednesday. Yeah, we had it. We had
Speaker 1: an executive and this is an adult in our office
Speaker 1: who you know, who's experienced a lot of success and
Speaker 1: stormed out of his closed office, out of the out
Speaker 1: of the building in the English, you know, an old
Speaker 1: school Patriots fan. But the one caution I'd say is
Speaker 1: that again we say this every week. It's usually on offense.
Speaker 1: With the Patriots are one of the best teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL in the past, in this century of figuring
Speaker 1: out the issues and moving on. But I really think
Speaker 1: that something here feels a little bit different. They are
Speaker 1: shorthanded on defense, and I am almost a concerned about
Speaker 1: their offensive line. Brady again, that Brady is playing as
Speaker 1: well or better than he did yet last year. And
Speaker 1: there two and two, And I don't want to short
Speaker 1: change the Panthers, which we're going to because we gotta
Speaker 1: keep moving. We will, we will, and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into We're gonna get into him a little bit here
Speaker 1: and then just know that we're gonna talk about him
Speaker 1: during the week. But this was a huge, huge game
Speaker 1: for Cam Newton, who has had a lot of people
Speaker 1: across the football Cogniscenti asking whether he is healthy, whether
Speaker 1: you can throw the ball, then this was the m
Speaker 1: v P type game. Three touchdowns uh sixteen yards, he
Speaker 1: ran the ball well eight forty four and and another
Speaker 1: score uh. Kelvin Benjamin, who looked like he might have
Speaker 1: blown out of his knee last week, had four catches
Speaker 1: on four targets for a hundred and four yards, and
Speaker 1: they were able to close out the game, which teams
Speaker 1: struggled to do with Gilette. It was a big, big
Speaker 1: win for Carolina. A lot of blown coverages, but also
Speaker 1: accurate intermediate and down the field. I don't think Cam
Speaker 1: Newton's looked that bad all year. I think he's looked
Speaker 1: better than people think, and he's definitely a little more
Speaker 1: explosive as a runner. Then they used it more today,
Speaker 1: but when he's had to scramble this year, he's looked
Speaker 1: really good. And I think Devin fun just deserves a
Speaker 1: big time game ball. That's the first time that I've
Speaker 1: ever sam giving the game ball out. Fun just was
Speaker 1: clearly jump ship entirely on his team. He was clearly injured,
Speaker 1: had a big game seven for seventy and two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: fighting through a growing injury. He's on the sideline practically
Speaker 1: hobbles out on the field for a third and two.
Speaker 1: He runs the route, catches the first down that sets
Speaker 1: up the game winning field goal. If if it was
Speaker 1: some player that gets noticed, like that's a that was
Speaker 1: a willis Read type of moment, Like this is like
Speaker 1: a guy wisely cashing out on his like crispy cream
Speaker 1: stock right before the bottom falls out. That's the way
Speaker 1: it feels like with I was very disappointed when they lost,
Speaker 1: but you know, you move on, and finally before we
Speaker 1: move on, you know, over the years, it is literally
Speaker 1: years on this podcast, we've heard a lot of god
Speaker 1: Zolac all pumped up. So in this one case, I said, hey, Erica,
Speaker 1: would you mind grabbing the Patriot sound of the game
Speaker 1: winning field goal for Caroline as well? Love it, you know,
Speaker 1: with twelve attention, Scott, let's hear you in the staggered polars,
Speaker 1: the snap in the spot, the kick is airborne to
Speaker 1: the operrights to kick is good. Carolina has come into
Speaker 1: Foxborough and we'll go away with a thirty three thirty
Speaker 1: victory over the Patriots. Where are you, Scotty? Maybe it
Speaker 1: comes in after that cut I don't know. I'm very
Speaker 1: quiet though. All I heard was got it, got it
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, uh to ooh an overtime
Speaker 1: affair in the desert and back the throw goes Palmer
Speaker 1: looks the little throws in so for fits goes up.
Speaker 1: He begs the game when it catch, Larry Legend does
Speaker 1: it again a touchdown, Cardinals win. Wow, Larry Legend, is
Speaker 1: that being thrown around in Arizona? That's fair, But that's
Speaker 1: kind of Larry Bird's thing, isn't it. It was? They're
Speaker 1: playing on the fact that most Sapports fans, you know,
Speaker 1: under the a certain age, don't even have no memory
Speaker 1: of watching Larry Bird play. I mean, they're both undoubtedly
Speaker 1: named Larry in both our legends for sure, Dave passed
Speaker 1: with a call. Larry Fitzgerald's nineteen yard touchdown reception late
Speaker 1: in overtime gave the Arizona Cardinals a badly needed eighteen
Speaker 1: fifteen win over the San Francisco forty Niners. Uh, we
Speaker 1: now welcome in. He's our sixth man of the year.
Speaker 1: The ever muscular ever Ohien Ohio own, Ohio, ohioan ohioight, Ohiowan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got another Ohio i behind the glass. Lindsey Fulton
Speaker 1: joining the team. High Lenz, it's not out of Mike,
Speaker 1: but she waves. Yeah, she smiled anyway, The ever muscular
Speaker 1: Nick shook Nick. The Cardinals really needed this game, and
Speaker 1: that old Carson to Larry legend hook up ailed him
Speaker 1: out again. It was four quarters of not a lot
Speaker 1: of action, a lot of field goals. If you like kickers,
Speaker 1: you'll enjoy this game. Uh. And then it took you know,
Speaker 1: less than two minutes for them to get down the field.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there watching the game, going where was
Speaker 1: this the whole time? Why are they suddenly you know,
Speaker 1: finding spaces Rome? But you know, when you when you
Speaker 1: face a defense, it's kind of playing soft under trying
Speaker 1: to prevent a big play and then ultimately gives up
Speaker 1: the big play because they were coming. It was an
Speaker 1: overtime game where it's San Francisco, and I like this
Speaker 1: ten minute overtime. It puts it speeds everything up and
Speaker 1: makes everything a little more tense. And you saw in
Speaker 1: this game because they had a long field goal drive
Speaker 1: and suddenly the Cardinals didn't have a ton of time
Speaker 1: to score that touchdown. Or possibly it's a good point
Speaker 1: in greg but there is another overtime game will get
Speaker 1: to between the Jets and Jaguars where ten minutes led
Speaker 1: to no urgency. But I think it's a fan it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I have to agree to you. I thought
Speaker 1: as you watch the Forts methodically get down the field,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I've seen a team holding
Speaker 1: the ball that long in overtime, especially in a long time,
Speaker 1: if ever, so in this instance, I was like, this
Speaker 1: game is over. They're gonna keep this field go. There's
Speaker 1: no way they're gonna go eight yards down the field.
Speaker 1: They've been stuck all day. Because you've gotta give a
Speaker 1: lot of credit to the Niners pass rush. It's pretty
Speaker 1: good and they did a pretty good job for most
Speaker 1: of the game today until it really mattered most well,
Speaker 1: that would be my question, because they're own four and
Speaker 1: that is what it is. At the same time, they
Speaker 1: nearly beat a very good Rams team last week, overcoming
Speaker 1: some of their own mistakes early, and you go into
Speaker 1: overtime state they're in these games. At least, it's a
Speaker 1: much different situation than last year, for sure. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: feel any different about the Cardinals after watching this. No,
Speaker 1: the Cardinal's problem. They are tough watch because they can't
Speaker 1: protect Carson Palmer and other teams know it, and they
Speaker 1: t off on him a lot. The guys getting beat up.
Speaker 1: I mean he can't move either, right, so it's one
Speaker 1: of those bad combinations. I can't run the ball. No, No,
Speaker 1: I mean not really with any effectiveness. Uh that They
Speaker 1: did use Andre Ellington out of the backfield pretty well
Speaker 1: in the passing game today, which was encouraging to see.
Speaker 1: You like to see him get the ball in space.
Speaker 1: He was David Johnson before. David Johnson kind of not
Speaker 1: as good obviously, but played a similar roles. It's kind
Speaker 1: of amazing. Fitzgerald has a you know, an epic game
Speaker 1: winning overtime touchdown catch that he got shaken up and
Speaker 1: the same week that he set a record for receptions
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football had one of his all time games.
Speaker 1: Then it's like he's penning a memorable season even if
Speaker 1: the rest of the team isn't. Yeah, we'll see where
Speaker 1: they go because they show the ability to still score
Speaker 1: like they did today, that they're just not as good
Speaker 1: as they were a few years ago. Offensively, their defensive
Speaker 1: arians never puts in extra lineman. That's one thing that
Speaker 1: teams know is he does not believe in that. So
Speaker 1: they just it might be time to subscribe to that
Speaker 1: concept that well, they're they're five and a chip at most,
Speaker 1: and and that's not gonna help if you guys aren't
Speaker 1: blocking up the park. And one more note from this game,
Speaker 1: Tyrannt Matthew, who we talked about, Um, you know someone
Speaker 1: on the defense, some of these big names needs to
Speaker 1: step up. Eleven tackles in a sack. Uh. That's the
Speaker 1: type of game that they're looking for from Honey Badger
Speaker 1: and there are other star players as they try to
Speaker 1: to make something of a season that is lacking. David Johnson,
Speaker 1: let's move up Dalton back to throw again. Dumps it
Speaker 1: off by Bernard sprinting towards Nobody's gonna catch Giovanni Bernard
Speaker 1: as he takes it sixty one yards. About a three
Speaker 1: yard passed down field by Andy Dalton, and a sixty
Speaker 1: one yard sprint w c k Y, Dan Horde and
Speaker 1: Dave lap him with the call need to get healthy
Speaker 1: play the Browns. Andy Dalton threw four touchdown passes, including
Speaker 1: that sixty one yard connection with a Bernard, as the
Speaker 1: Bengals rolled to a thirty one seven win over UH.
Speaker 1: The winless Cleveland Browns shook the football. Cogniscent wrote the
Speaker 1: Bengals off at oh and three, and they might be
Speaker 1: still done even at one in three, but a comeback
Speaker 1: has to start somewhere in Cleveland was a good place
Speaker 1: to begin. Okay, So two things here. All this week
Speaker 1: I saw the hot pick and was to go Browns
Speaker 1: over Bengals. Browns are getting their first win this week.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are horrible, and and I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: did you guys not watch the game against the Packers
Speaker 1: last week? The Bengals were pretty competitive And right now,
Speaker 1: you know, are the Browns competing for the playoffs? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I know it's early, but they're just they're
Speaker 1: not at that level. Well, it's early and it's also
Speaker 1: too late. Yes, absolutely, And now the Bengals they're no,
Speaker 1: they're both not really good teams, but they're on totally
Speaker 1: different planes and there's a very large gap in between.
Speaker 1: And we saw that today. I don't think anyone expected
Speaker 1: it to be thirty one to nothing type of gap though,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's by I mean out. The Browns
Speaker 1: were very competitive the first two weeks. You could argue
Speaker 1: they outplayed the Ravens and Steelers for much of those games.
Speaker 1: Yet they're they're down thirty one nothing that it has
Speaker 1: to feel like a pretty big step backwards for this
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson regime. Yeah, he said it after the game.
Speaker 1: This is the worst they played all year and by
Speaker 1: a long shot. And it and it definitely looked like
Speaker 1: we talked about Joe Mixon maybe having a breakout game
Speaker 1: and no Danny Shelton, no Jamie Collins, that they'd be vulnerable.
Speaker 1: They actually did it. Okay job containing the run, but
Speaker 1: they let Andy Dalton, who's been, let's face it, dreadful
Speaker 1: this season, play play a lights out game twenty eight
Speaker 1: six four touchdowns. Um uh, Mark, We joked with you
Speaker 1: a lot about um me coming for your corner, and
Speaker 1: I I feel bad, I honestly do, because it feels
Speaker 1: like here we are again, it's October, and the Browns
Speaker 1: seem as lost as ever. I'm looking at the box
Speaker 1: score on my laptop here and under Cleveland passing it
Speaker 1: says no Cleveland passing, and under Cleveland rushing it says
Speaker 1: no Cleveland rushing. Obviously an error, but the entire team
Speaker 1: felt like an error today and it's it's a decisive
Speaker 1: step back in a game. This is Hugh Jackson. What coach,
Speaker 1: what head coach in the league outside of Marvin Lewis
Speaker 1: knows the Bengals better with so many of the same
Speaker 1: players in place, that this is the game. It goes
Speaker 1: both ways. But I I would just say that Cleveland
Speaker 1: still they've got a lot of young players on their team.
Speaker 1: It does not equate to talent necessarily, and they feel
Speaker 1: as far away right now as they did at any
Speaker 1: point last season. And I wonder how long you keep
Speaker 1: the faith of this of this of this city, who
Speaker 1: has packed this stadium year after year since the turn
Speaker 1: of the century, no matter what, and basically, through a
Speaker 1: lot of junk well, and they've also got again. If
Speaker 1: you look at the city of Cleveland, they have a
Speaker 1: win Indians team. They're pumped up trying to finally get
Speaker 1: a World Series win. You can't just assume forever these
Speaker 1: fans are just gonna wait for a brighter day, because
Speaker 1: you have to. You have to show some evidence and
Speaker 1: and we're gonna and we're gonna get to Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: in a bit like again, just like you passed on
Speaker 1: Carson once two years ago, now it looks like you
Speaker 1: might have passed on another superstar when you were at
Speaker 1: the top of the draft. Got it. It's just such
Speaker 1: a frustrating situation today. I started receiving the up Browns
Speaker 1: blew it on Watson texts, which I knew were gonna
Speaker 1: come if he put enough good games together. But yeah,
Speaker 1: with this team, this is the first time in the
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson era where I've watched them and thought they
Speaker 1: are at rock bottom. Now, last year, obviously you don't
Speaker 1: win a game until the very end of the season.
Speaker 1: Pretty much that was under a honeymoon scenario to something
Speaker 1: like that. And you and you knew the roster gutting
Speaker 1: and that was going to be part of it, Whereas
Speaker 1: now you're in your two and you come up with
Speaker 1: some optimism and the competitive for a couple weeks, and
Speaker 1: they take a step back against Indianapolis and today it
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, you know this, they might have
Speaker 1: to blow this up again and and quickly on the
Speaker 1: On the Bengals, no one rushes the pastor I think
Speaker 1: worse right now than than the Browns. So they make
Speaker 1: quarterbacks look healthy. Andy Dalton four touchdowns, five in completion.
Speaker 1: This is not a terrible team. They were aheaded in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. They you know, lost late to the Texans.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're good team, but there are still
Speaker 1: pieces there that if a couple of things had broken
Speaker 1: the way a little differently, they could easily be two
Speaker 1: and two or three and one now. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying there seems not over in a division that's a
Speaker 1: little weird. Well, I also think we a lot of
Speaker 1: credit is due to build Laser. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: he was already on the stage. That actually scared me,
Speaker 1: and I knew that coming that was serious. That was
Speaker 1: a lot of lasers. Uh. He's done a he's done
Speaker 1: a really good job just utilizing the talent that they
Speaker 1: weren't really using before and and and it wasn't that
Speaker 1: big of a change in scheme. But you know, a
Speaker 1: game like today, in a game like last week, really
Speaker 1: kind of got you familiar with their back and you
Speaker 1: see why coordinators get fired all the time, especially offensive coordinators,
Speaker 1: because it really does sometimes work. And give it, give
Speaker 1: a spark. Do you want to stick around? Shook for
Speaker 1: as we close out the a f C North, Let's
Speaker 1: close out the a f C North. Ben Getzler shotgun Snap,
Speaker 1: He's back, he waits, he pumps, he still pumps, he fires.
Speaker 1: That's a touchdown for ju Smith Schuster from my loving
Speaker 1: yard shop. Ben showed the patients of job Start pro Star.
Speaker 1: It's a bit much here, Caran ju Jus right to left.
Speaker 1: Nobody covering touchdown pitts for patients of job Reference in
Speaker 1: a huge spot. Bill Hillgrove of w d v E
Speaker 1: what it called, Ben Roethlisberger and ju Juice with Shuestar
Speaker 1: connected early and Levy on Bell finally busted out with
Speaker 1: one forty four yards and two scores to lead the
Speaker 1: Steelers to a nine win over the rival Ravens in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Mark This was the first Pittsburgh road win against the Ravens,
Speaker 1: and you know what, they made it look easy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I I thought coming out of that London
Speaker 1: game with the Ravens. I get it's the Steelers. They
Speaker 1: in theory or kind of loaded on paper. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen it all come to fruition on the field this season.
Speaker 1: But you're Baltimore. You gave up ten points over the
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season against the bottom of
Speaker 1: the barrel in the a f C North. I get that,
Speaker 1: But now you've given up seventy points in the past
Speaker 1: two weeks and you can't blame London. You can't blame
Speaker 1: the flight over, the hotel, accommodations, whatever it was you
Speaker 1: put in your body across the sea. You're now back
Speaker 1: and you just got waxed in a team against the
Speaker 1: team that you that you know so well. And it
Speaker 1: leaves me very concerned about the Ravens. I just think
Speaker 1: at this point they they're already back against the wall.
Speaker 1: And for Pittsburgh, I guess it was fair to wonder
Speaker 1: when Levan Bell would have this kind of game. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen, probably in his first appearance, but he
Speaker 1: was used heavily as a workhorse to James Connor, though
Speaker 1: I think it's a nice supporting guy to give him
Speaker 1: a spell here. And you're gonna fall apart if you
Speaker 1: have thirty nine touches every week for you know, eighty
Speaker 1: six yards. But that's a lot, Yes it is, yeah,
Speaker 1: But you know what, at the same time, he didn't
Speaker 1: get that training camp. And I know we're in week
Speaker 1: four now, so you we're past that, but he kind
Speaker 1: of needs that physical work outside of the practice fields
Speaker 1: to kind of finally get acclimated. And he is. And
Speaker 1: I think for the Steelers, we've talked about when are
Speaker 1: they finally going to be a balanced team, not so
Speaker 1: much past run but offense defense. It was one of
Speaker 1: our make the leap picks this year. They came into
Speaker 1: this game as the number four defense in the league
Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders, and they did another nice job.
Speaker 1: I know they're not playing it a great defense, but
Speaker 1: they get stuff onto it back. He had a huge
Speaker 1: plate in this game. You have Cameron Hayward playing really well,
Speaker 1: you have Shazire playing well. Like that, like this idea
Speaker 1: that the Steelers now can win a few different ways.
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't need to have the best offense in
Speaker 1: the LEA. Maybe they need to have a top ten
Speaker 1: offense our show. It's funny how we can kinda have
Speaker 1: similar group thinks group think on things. Earlier in the summer,
Speaker 1: we're all like, how are the Ravens gonna score points?
Speaker 1: That they seem like a total also run team, and
Speaker 1: then their defense heated up, and we're all like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna be frisky, maybe ten eleven wins.
Speaker 1: But now it's come for me, It's come full circle,
Speaker 1: and it's like, God, these guys are gonna struggle to
Speaker 1: score twenty points all year. That's gonna put too much
Speaker 1: pressure on the defense. And I'm back to thinking that
Speaker 1: this is a seven and nine team that needs reinforcements,
Speaker 1: and they used a bunch they invested a bunch of
Speaker 1: draft picks on the defensive side of the ball, and
Speaker 1: that I don't I don't want. Uh. You know, nobody
Speaker 1: is allowed to say anything bad about Ozzy Newsome's team
Speaker 1: building skills, and I'm certainly not an expert enough to
Speaker 1: do it, but I will because that's a type of
Speaker 1: man I am. He should have drafted some offensive players,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will rectify that in April. But
Speaker 1: the fourth year in a row. I mean, this has
Speaker 1: been Baltimore's offense from the passing game angle for so long. Now.
Speaker 1: I mean they they're trying. They're running the ball with
Speaker 1: Buck Allen and Alex Collins. They threw the ball forty
Speaker 1: nine times. Not one of those times did the team
Speaker 1: gain more than sixteen yards. I mean they hear the
Speaker 1: ball ten times to Macklin and pairman for twenty seven yards.
Speaker 1: They're just desperate. They're not an explosive offense at all.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. And their quarterback could have used
Speaker 1: a preseason in the summer, but the back injury didn't
Speaker 1: let him do it. Shook, Uh, thank you for stopping
Speaker 1: by reigning six Men of the Year. You're R j R.
Speaker 1: Smith Less tattoos, more shirts. I have the j R.
Speaker 1: Smith tattoo shirts. Off to the gym now, uh pumping, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pumping so much more? Something time like quickly that's my house,
Speaker 1: like eating tritos all right, Shook off to get a
Speaker 1: pump in. That's we say those type of things. That
Speaker 1: were that's what we say at the gym. Taple, Let's
Speaker 1: move on. That was a Sessler lock that came. Did
Speaker 1: you do it? I locked it up? Baby. That ends
Speaker 1: the slump, and what a slump it was. And I
Speaker 1: think if you were to actually look at the tail
Speaker 1: end of last season, you gotta bring it up. By
Speaker 1: the way. I know you're a humble man, but stand up,
Speaker 1: be brassy. Kind of totally forgot about it. I was,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm three feet away from Shook's upper body.
Speaker 1: I just like, I'm all discompared on Twitter. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that ends you. You were owing three unlocks. Your
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams still winless, but and your real team
Speaker 1: as well. But now you got along. It's it's season
Speaker 1: in general. Off to a banner, starts all right, let's
Speaker 1: move on. Speaking of locks. Matt Castle at quarterback. It
Speaker 1: takes the shotgun snafflis is on up the gut, they
Speaker 1: pick it up. Well, he fires, intercepted, picked off till
Speaker 1: call and he's gonna storm and for a score. High
Speaker 1: steps left side of the end zone, touchdown Texans fifty
Speaker 1: three fourteen with thirty one remaining. Hit the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: O Mark VanderMeer of k I L T with the call.
Speaker 1: Let there be no debate. The Houston Texans at long
Speaker 1: last have their franchise quarterback to Shaun Watson, threw for
Speaker 1: four touchdowns and ran for another, a dominant performance in
Speaker 1: the texans fifty seven to fourteen destruction of the so
Speaker 1: called Tennessee Titans. Calm down with that. Houston's fifty burger
Speaker 1: represents the most points scored in their sixteen year history.
Speaker 1: It also represents by far the most the size of
Speaker 1: lock off triumph of all times. Time we discuss this,
Speaker 1: they went shocker, this is man's best. Ready you'll read. Now,
Speaker 1: listen to the sounds from round the league. Okay, hold
Speaker 1: on a second, this was not played when you lost
Speaker 1: the lot, I would say, back the truck up here,
Speaker 1: just a few blocks please, because had you obviously we
Speaker 1: know the lock one in your favorite congratulations did it excellent?
Speaker 1: Looks like I'm just saying, what would what would that
Speaker 1: last two minutes have been like? Had Greg one probably
Speaker 1: less charismatic, I would say, yes, just what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is when you have a lock off, it happens rarely.
Speaker 1: And Greg defeated me in a lock off just last
Speaker 1: week was it? Or maybe the week before? Knows it
Speaker 1: went by as a whisper. So but in this case,
Speaker 1: when you have a lock off, and that means, if
Speaker 1: you're new to the show, you know, we both pick
Speaker 1: locks for we're more certain about any other team to win.
Speaker 1: And it just happened to be the same game. And
Speaker 1: then the team that you lock drops a fifty burger.
Speaker 1: That's bad. It's and it's a decise h victory for
Speaker 1: you and more importantly, maybe not to me, but more
Speaker 1: importantly more important, now, what could be more important? One
Speaker 1: A for the Texans, your one big, big, big victory
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, who, let's face it, the A
Speaker 1: s C right now is wide open with the Patriots
Speaker 1: having serious problems with no guarantee that they're going to
Speaker 1: get on track, at least not anytimes. It's interesting because
Speaker 1: you told me the whole season was canceled that before
Speaker 1: it started, there couldn't be any defensive problems or anything
Speaker 1: like I know everything like, oh, white football is unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Somebody's salty. Anyway. My point is the Houston Texans have
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and they have a defense, and they have
Speaker 1: pretty good coach. Ah They I think mark are a
Speaker 1: real team to reckon with in this conference. Now, I
Speaker 1: mean the last eight quarters by this offense, throw out
Speaker 1: the opener they lost with the hurricane situation, everything that
Speaker 1: happened to them, what they did against the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: and then what they did by capping it off today
Speaker 1: by utter destruction of Dick Lebou and the Tennessee Titans defense.
Speaker 1: Dick Lebou, who's something like twenty seven and five, I
Speaker 1: don't know the number, but it's close against rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 1: dominated today and Deshaun Watson is so fun to watch
Speaker 1: the way he extends the play and just the guy
Speaker 1: the vision today, the downfield passing, the whole Texans offense,
Speaker 1: which has been such a liability for so long under
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, has become the story of the a f C.
Speaker 1: And their defense is fine too, But it's like, whoever
Speaker 1: would have thought that Deshaun Watson, who all summer long
Speaker 1: we're being told is buried behind Tom's this guy Tom Savage,
Speaker 1: and here he comes. He looks like the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the conference right now. Fascinating turn of events. There's never
Speaker 1: been a greater call to deep six training camp coverage
Speaker 1: pseason games, and yet he struggled. Watson struggled more than
Speaker 1: the other rookie quarterbacks, no doubt. Well, then that's the
Speaker 1: other point though, His his quick his his transformation and
Speaker 1: his growth over the course of this first month andal season.
Speaker 1: It's tough to think of too many quarterbacks that have
Speaker 1: done it that quick well. The preseason is such a
Speaker 1: different thing because you're not game planning for a specific
Speaker 1: opponent all week and we're seeing and maybe O'Brien clearly
Speaker 1: didn't expect it to go this well, or else he
Speaker 1: would have been the Week one starter. But we're seeing
Speaker 1: the impact of O'Brien being able to tailor a game
Speaker 1: plan around Watson and just the special things when the
Speaker 1: lights turn on that Watson at the time, Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: at the time of his life today, Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: you sent like the guy from the football recap opener,
Speaker 1: Sergio dipp Oh. Well, thanks a lot for that reference.
Speaker 1: But I know, honestly, behind the scenes, Bill O'Brien and
Speaker 1: the Texans, Bill O'Brien has been at odds with that team,
Speaker 1: with the front office, They've gone through a million quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: He's never had a quarterback to work with. He finally
Speaker 1: does what a difference it I want you to have, Mark,
Speaker 1: I would love for you to have a confessional YouTube
Speaker 1: video or a Twitter video posted from a hotel room
Speaker 1: late tonight talking about your bill O'Brien, I won't be
Speaker 1: talking about that this This team is so much more
Speaker 1: interesting and entertaining in the future. Let's see how defense
Speaker 1: is it justin what you know Deshaun Watson's doing in
Speaker 1: the middle of November. The more shocking part of this
Speaker 1: game to me is the fact that, like Tennessee just
Speaker 1: last year in Jacksonville in Week sixteen, just when you
Speaker 1: think they finally turned the corner, they get hammered by
Speaker 1: a division opponent in a spot that you didn't expect. Yes,
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota got hurt in this game, but he had
Speaker 1: already been intercepted twice. The defense had given up thirty
Speaker 1: one points in the first five possessions for Houston, so
Speaker 1: it really wasn't about the injury to Marcus Mariota. It
Speaker 1: was a full scale beat down thirty three first downs
Speaker 1: to nine for the Titans. You just do not see
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. That's the type of thing you see,
Speaker 1: you know, when the SEC is scheduling nonconference people crazy.
Speaker 1: And just one more note to Tennessee fans, out there,
Speaker 1: respect and proper pronunciation is earned. Let's move on. Let's
Speaker 1: hope that hamstring is okay, m R I on Monday well,
Speaker 1: because otherwise it means a big dose of Matt Castle
Speaker 1: that no one on Earth needs right now. Stephen Housco
Speaker 1: from fifty six yards out, He's made nine in a
Speaker 1: row from fifty or more on its way and good
Speaker 1: Greg Gumble cbs with the call, Stephen House our top
Speaker 1: ten Gumble prosaic mundane call like that. You gotta go
Speaker 1: with it. That is a fifty six yard field goal,
Speaker 1: Greg Gumble, I'm speaking to with less than five minutes remaining,
Speaker 1: and it put the Bills ahead of the defending NFC
Speaker 1: Conference champions. He hit another fifty yard or a little
Speaker 1: bit later, final score seventeen. Because the Bills then went
Speaker 1: down and got to stop on defense deep in their
Speaker 1: own territory, the Falcons lost the game, also lost wide
Speaker 1: receiver Julio Jones, who exited with a hip injury. As
Speaker 1: for the Bills, Hey guys, Greg, look at the Bills
Speaker 1: three and one, first place in a f c S
Speaker 1: Talking to Greg Gumble or Greg ros I don't get
Speaker 1: excited all the Greg's sole possession of first place. This
Speaker 1: team is gonna give up some yards, and they did
Speaker 1: early in the game, but they they're just so well
Speaker 1: coached in terms of tackling and situational football and red
Speaker 1: zone defense. And you know, you have to mention that
Speaker 1: Julio Jones left this game in the first half with
Speaker 1: an injury, a hip injury. Mohammed Sanu went out quickly afterwards,
Speaker 1: and so suddenly their wide receivers are Taylor Gabriel and
Speaker 1: Justin Hardy. Those two receivers had eleven targets for twelve yards.
Speaker 1: That is a total disaster on the outside. But give
Speaker 1: the Bills defense credit for taking advantage, and especially Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor and Lashawn McCoy. Their numbers don't pop at you,
Speaker 1: but you can just find about four or five plays.
Speaker 1: Uh McCoy picking first down on a third and seventeen
Speaker 1: on a screen that keeps the drive going and they
Speaker 1: score a touchdown. Tyrod with a bomb that he escaped
Speaker 1: a couple of defenders and throws it down the fire.
Speaker 1: These are just kind of individual plays. It's not the
Speaker 1: scheme doing it. But they've made enough of these individual
Speaker 1: plays to win three out of four games. I'm really impressed.
Speaker 1: I like to we have a Sean Verse Shawn Lockoff
Speaker 1: in my book right now for a coach of the Year.
Speaker 1: You've got Sean McVeigh and Sean McDermott, who this is
Speaker 1: a team we're gonna keep saying that they talked about
Speaker 1: them tanking in August because of personnel moves they made.
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, like he did in Carolina, finds ways to
Speaker 1: take role players and really make them into big contributors.
Speaker 1: The Bills handled this game. This was on the road,
Speaker 1: by the way, I think that's like Buffalo has to
Speaker 1: be very seriously. How I would take them seriously like
Speaker 1: they have. They are extremely well coached. They're not an
Speaker 1: easy out and especially in Buffalo, I think they did
Speaker 1: this with that too starting defensive lineman as well. Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan certainly did not have a good day. But you
Speaker 1: have to give credit to the Bills from no and
Speaker 1: it's there's no hiding It's not like the Falcons are
Speaker 1: struggling on offense. But compared to last years, in this game,
Speaker 1: to lose the two guys they lost that Taylor gabriel
Speaker 1: Is night, they moved the ball. This was not a game.
Speaker 1: If you watch it that you think. Okay, the Bills
Speaker 1: were the better team necessarily, it was an even game
Speaker 1: if if anything, the Falcons moved the ball better. And
Speaker 1: let's let's face it, the Falcons were due a loss
Speaker 1: like this. They've been stealing wins for letch they earned,
Speaker 1: of course, but there were three and o easily could
Speaker 1: have been one and two and they kind of they
Speaker 1: were in striking distance and potentially stealing another game. So
Speaker 1: kudos to the Bills defense for getting the stop and
Speaker 1: getting the win. I want to play. We gotta keep moving,
Speaker 1: but I want to play um Our friend Lashawn McCoy
Speaker 1: man that maybe maybe he doesn't know how to tip
Speaker 1: too well, maybe he's not the best at organizing parties
Speaker 1: featuring both sexes, but the man really knows how to
Speaker 1: have a chip on the shoulder. Let's listen to Shady
Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game talks to the winter.
Speaker 1: We want we all room, please to night today want
Speaker 1: John Scott with that video on Twitter from spec News
Speaker 1: Buffalo's a theme. Cam Newton also was upset and why
Speaker 1: take him seriously? Because if if you told Bills fans
Speaker 1: who are down in the dumps four weeks ago that
Speaker 1: bye week four, you have back to back wins against
Speaker 1: the Broncos and Falcons. This is a legit team. A
Speaker 1: news flash though Airy Area reporter predicts reigning undefeated NFC
Speaker 1: champion team to win at home versus a team that
Speaker 1: has not made the playoffs this century. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not a shocking airpoint back. Maybe you shouldn't get so
Speaker 1: upset at the media there, Lashawn, but you do you buddy.
Speaker 1: Let's move on, Folcus shot not the spot kick on
Speaker 1: a way and it is no, it's good and it's
Speaker 1: good and side the left up right. The giants were offside,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter and the Giants are now. Oh
Speaker 1: and four was that Jerry Seinfeld that has sounded remarkably
Speaker 1: like a low level Jerry so come on bright like
Speaker 1: Jerry sein pepie, he's one of the best in the business,
Speaker 1: but he is well, so is Jerry Seinfeld his business well?
Speaker 1: Arguing that okay? Or was you're you're saying sign fell
Speaker 1: over the hill, I'm saying, I mean he's I don't
Speaker 1: think he's attempting to be you know this, move on, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm fine with moving on anyway. Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: through for three thirty two yards and three touchdowns with
Speaker 1: the old you know Sessler Seinfeld bit. It sounded every show.
Speaker 1: I would encourage you, if you're listening to this, to
Speaker 1: go back and say, did that sound a little bit
Speaker 1: like Jerry Seinfeld. I think I'm right, Okay. It also
Speaker 1: sounded a lot like Bob pop a lot like Bob
Speaker 1: Papa as well. Anyway, So Nick Folk kicked the thirty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal as time exp fired to give
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win over the winless New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Mark The Giants have no idea how to close out
Speaker 1: a game, and their season is effectively over on October
Speaker 1: one because of it. Go figure it's over. I mean
Speaker 1: it's I don't know what you can fly back into
Speaker 1: this thing, Nick Folk, by the way, I mean it
Speaker 1: had the Bucks not eked this one out, Nick Folk,
Speaker 1: who missed two field goals, makable field goals and an
Speaker 1: extra point. This team that has had kicker drama dating
Speaker 1: back for far too long at this point cannot have
Speaker 1: a kicker costing them seven points. The Bucks do not
Speaker 1: have all their issues figured out, but I will say this,
Speaker 1: it was impressive to see Jamis Winston start very hot.
Speaker 1: Then the team went into the tank for like thirty
Speaker 1: minutes of game time, and then they got themselves out
Speaker 1: of it and won this game with a really nice
Speaker 1: closing drive by by Jamis Winston. In the offense, this team, though,
Speaker 1: still needs there there elements missing that. I think it
Speaker 1: starts with the ground game. They did get an okay,
Speaker 1: he's Rogers, look okay, get Doug Martin backs. That will
Speaker 1: help a lot. If we get the Doug Martin we
Speaker 1: saw in the preseason. They're they're not all there. They
Speaker 1: play the Patriots Thursday night. Asked for the Giants. I mean,
Speaker 1: they a little bit of a spark on the ground,
Speaker 1: but there's really so They're so imbalanced, they're so one sided.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing first half passes for Eli Manning
Speaker 1: through something forty something by the end of the game.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a ridiculous model for offense. Wayne Gallman,
Speaker 1: am I supposed to know who that is? He was?
Speaker 1: He's been essentially you know, inactive week after week. He
Speaker 1: fourth okay, he looked okay, But again, you can't run
Speaker 1: behind this line. But like if you're in a week
Speaker 1: four in your seasons online and you're turning to Wayne
Speaker 1: Galman to save the day. The struggles that they've had
Speaker 1: to run the football. The Bucks were missing, you know,
Speaker 1: their two star linebackers in this game, Kwan Alexander and
Speaker 1: Lavonte David and and they're not everything's not clicking right now.
Speaker 1: But these are the types of wins that you gotta
Speaker 1: get to sort of start stacking. All right, some things
Speaker 1: went against them, they blew a lead. And I find
Speaker 1: it really interesting that for all the Mike Evans and
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson talk, I mean, the leading receivers on this
Speaker 1: team are Cameron brad and Adam Humphreys. Well, and this
Speaker 1: that shows how deep they are, that that they are deep.
Speaker 1: And they also it was a huge It was a
Speaker 1: big performance by O. J. Howard, who got as open
Speaker 1: as I've seen any tight end get all season long
Speaker 1: against New York's pretty good secondary for a wild fifty
Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown. That's the Giant. Things are now rolling
Speaker 1: downhill in a bad way. Uh and Ben back the
Speaker 1: News gotta watch out because now oh and four, this
Speaker 1: is really the Giants have had so much success. If
Speaker 1: you throw the seventies, they had a bad stretch of thing.
Speaker 1: Bad go of it. But you have to go back
Speaker 1: decades to find the last Giants team that started off
Speaker 1: this poorly, and it's a it's a big surprise. So
Speaker 1: Tampa gets the win. Up, banged up Tampa team still
Speaker 1: able to beat a desperate Giants team. That shows you
Speaker 1: how broken the Giants are. Let's check in with the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, which takes the shotguns now straight up the
Speaker 1: middle hand up too small, touchdown Philadelphia from pre r
Speaker 1: Meryl Ree wt e l what they called Wendel Smallwood
Speaker 1: found the end zone in the fourth quarter and Legarrett
Speaker 1: Blunt rumbled for a hundred and thirty six yards to
Speaker 1: help carry the Eagles to a win over the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. That's oh and four for the Bolts. So
Speaker 1: there are the two windless teams along with forty niners.
Speaker 1: Uh and then includes three home losses at the stubbed
Speaker 1: toe in a row, three in a row at the
Speaker 1: stubbed with a cross down rams off to a great start.
Speaker 1: This is a worst case scenario for the Spannos family
Speaker 1: and long suffering Chargers fans. Not only are you windless,
Speaker 1: not only is there a lot of criticism coming down
Speaker 1: on the organization and the home game experience with how
Speaker 1: many fans from other teams are pouring in to your
Speaker 1: soccer facility. You're now own for while the Rams are
Speaker 1: the talk of the NFC at three and one? What
Speaker 1: is it called the battle for l A fight for
Speaker 1: fight's over? It's October one and the fight's over. Let's
Speaker 1: face it, uh and uh and the same old story. Greg.
Speaker 1: I know you you always like to watch the Charges.
Speaker 1: You're a big fan of Philip Rivers and and they
Speaker 1: do do exciting things, but like this year, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've liked it this year. Yeah, they just
Speaker 1: the same old story with this team that they had
Speaker 1: a chance. And this happened last week as well. Greg.
Speaker 1: You set it downstairs to get one more chance, down
Speaker 1: to down three points, get off the field, uh, and
Speaker 1: have a chance to win the game, and the defense
Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run and they lost the game. They did,
Speaker 1: and it reminded it reminded me a lot of the
Speaker 1: that Chiefs game. And it reminded me a lot of
Speaker 1: what the Eagles did a week ago too. I think
Speaker 1: this Eagles team is getting a little bit of an
Speaker 1: identity and Doug Peterson has got to love it. Last
Speaker 1: week they run the ball a hundred and ninety three yards.
Speaker 1: They totally stopped the opposition uh forty nine yards when
Speaker 1: they played the Giants. This week, they rush it for
Speaker 1: two hundred and fourteen yards, including in the key moments
Speaker 1: of the game. I mean, football teams just live for
Speaker 1: that offensive line in and La Garrett Blunt just hammering
Speaker 1: things to close the game out. And they hold Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon the Chargers to fifty eight yards. It should be
Speaker 1: a lot less if it wasn't for one long random
Speaker 1: touchdown by my buddy what's his name, Eckler, Yeah, the rookie.
Speaker 1: I mean, this has not been a good Chargers offense,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what surprises. The offense has been mediocre,
Speaker 1: the defense, lagartt Blunt, La Gary Stiff arming people like
Speaker 1: beast Mode a sixty eight yard run which was a huge,
Speaker 1: huge play in the game. And Carson Wentz, who has
Speaker 1: been asked to do so much uh since coming to
Speaker 1: the Eagles. You know, this is a more manageable thing.
Speaker 1: You have him seventeen thirty two in a touch Let
Speaker 1: the running game take some heat off the kid behind center,
Speaker 1: and this is how you win games. I mean, they
Speaker 1: ran seventy four plays. That is an incredibly high amount.
Speaker 1: So they're a ball control team. And you said it.
Speaker 1: They're asking Wents to do less in his second year,
Speaker 1: then he had to do it in the rookie. I
Speaker 1: also think what helps Wentz is that former making the
Speaker 1: league candidate zach Ertz, how many good games years ago?
Speaker 1: That years, years and years ago. But I mean Earth's
Speaker 1: has been an incredibly reliable sort of safety blanket for
Speaker 1: for wins, and it adds a lot to pass in
Speaker 1: a year where there have not been a lot of
Speaker 1: reliable tight ends. And one last note before we move on,
Speaker 1: and I think this is an indictment of the defense
Speaker 1: and and the offense quite right, the coaching staff, and
Speaker 1: let's be honest. The quarterback to the Chargers in now
Speaker 1: five and twenty five and their last thirty games decided
Speaker 1: by one score. Can't close that games, can't win close games.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere in the league. Let's move on
Speaker 1: the next week. Chargers Giants, Oh my god, put me
Speaker 1: under the back of the shotgun brings get in motion
Speaker 1: from the left, breeze fakes again, a little shovel pass
Speaker 1: inside of Cameral running right side breaks and tackled down
Speaker 1: to the Gold on the ends. On touts down New
Speaker 1: Orleans Drew Brees through for two and sixty eight yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns, including that twelve yard connection with Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara as the Saints coasted to a twenty to nothing win.
Speaker 1: Oh for the list list. Miami Dolphins at Rainy Wembley Stadium,
Speaker 1: Greg kudos to Sean Payton and company for bouncing back
Speaker 1: with two straight excellent defensive performances to get their season
Speaker 1: back on back on track. But let's start with the
Speaker 1: Dolphins who seemed to be careening off the tracks. Here
Speaker 1: we are one last play j Cutler touchdown to DeVante
Speaker 1: Parker meaningless in Week three against the Jets, were one
Speaker 1: play away from back to back shutouts in the NFL
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. For a coaching staff um that's known
Speaker 1: for offense and a group of players that were expected
Speaker 1: to come together this year Devanty Parker, Kenny Stills, Jarvis Landy,
Speaker 1: j j I, Julius Thomas. I was gonna do them,
Speaker 1: making the leap one on them, and I ran out
Speaker 1: of time. I'm glad I didn't do it. Thank God
Speaker 1: for the unstoppable March of time. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: the Saints, who most people felt like they were gonna
Speaker 1: get waxed against Carolina. That was a very Adam West
Speaker 1: Batman line. Old Chum, the unstoppable march up time strikes
Speaker 1: on again. Transitions of the season. Let's clip that very
Speaker 1: odd you give thirteen points to the Panthers, you come
Speaker 1: out and this was one of the most I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Greg, I know you were up. How
Speaker 1: many of our listeners in London tweeted at us who
Speaker 1: were at this game painfully wondering at halftime if anything
Speaker 1: enjoyable would happen the entire time. It came around in
Speaker 1: the second half, but this is a big defensive, big
Speaker 1: defensive showing for New Orleans. Sorry UK fans, you are
Speaker 1: over too. Yeah, it's been it hurts, I wake up.
Speaker 1: I always am rooting for just good football and points
Speaker 1: and excitement, because you just want the brand of football
Speaker 1: to be exciting for anyone there that's enjoying it for
Speaker 1: the first time or they're a casual fan. And and
Speaker 1: the announcers, you know, Kevin Burkhart and Charles Davis, who
Speaker 1: play it very straight. In general, we're really making jokes
Speaker 1: about how loppy. The games they were dropping, they were
Speaker 1: there were no they were dropping because it was all
Speaker 1: penalties and mistakes and then a couple of things. Jay
Speaker 1: Cutler had to be looking up at that broadcast booth
Speaker 1: and thinking, oh, maybe I maybe I should be there
Speaker 1: because that was his team. He was gonna be with
Speaker 1: Burkhart and Davis and he has to doesn't He have
Speaker 1: to be in the back of his mind wondering like,
Speaker 1: well did I come back with? Well, it was the
Speaker 1: body language. And I don't want to read too much
Speaker 1: in you because I think it's just natural to spe
Speaker 1: this way between Adam Gaze and Cutler at the end
Speaker 1: of this game was negative. And I thought that Adam
Speaker 1: Gaze challenged the Dolphins this week when he called the
Speaker 1: offense essentially garbage. It's the thing where a team team
Speaker 1: either comes out and responds to that or they do
Speaker 1: what they happen today, and they really do look like that.
Speaker 1: When you said Jay Cutler and body language, I thought
Speaker 1: you were saying when he was split out wide in
Speaker 1: that wild card that was hung his hung his arms
Speaker 1: like a teenager that had to go to church on something. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was not effectively sort of playing that wildcat scenario.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit annoyed because I'm I'm not the
Speaker 1: only one, but so many of us got sucked in
Speaker 1: a little bit by the Cutler signing and this idea
Speaker 1: that oh, they're gonna be okay. You know that this
Speaker 1: given this change that I I was more than anyone,
Speaker 1: things could change. Maybe, But it also there's a very
Speaker 1: real don't know anything going to change, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's also a chance that Jay Cutler is washed up
Speaker 1: and that this it was a desperation signing and it
Speaker 1: might not work out and he might not even be
Speaker 1: on the field two weeks from now. We'll have to see.
Speaker 1: Let's give the Saints some love and some attention for
Speaker 1: for them, it was a beautiful game because their defense
Speaker 1: can now shut down problematic offenses. Yeah, they were playing
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, but it doesn't matter. They weren't a defense
Speaker 1: that could stop anyone. And they have a force safety
Speaker 1: look that they're showing now which is giving some opposition problems.
Speaker 1: Dime defense doing some pressures. Cam Jordan's playing very well,
Speaker 1: and on offense, it was possession football, even though it's
Speaker 1: a low scoring game. Every time they got the ball
Speaker 1: especially in the second half. It's it's a six minute drive,
Speaker 1: it's a five minute drive, it's it's a four minute drive. Really,
Speaker 1: throughout the game, they were moving the ball, keeping their
Speaker 1: defense on the field, and there's suddenly two and two.
Speaker 1: I mean they're in the mix. There's no reason they
Speaker 1: can't be in the mix. Believe Dan, you don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Seven and nine, moving on staff, it will take the snap,
Speaker 1: does gives to a mirror, A mirror hesitates fighting, it's
Speaker 1: on the two. It's one, the one to the end zone.
Speaker 1: Did he get in no signal yet, that's a touchdowns
Speaker 1: a touchdown. They need to look at that, and they
Speaker 1: did look at it and it was a touchouts. My boy,
Speaker 1: Dan Miller, former interview subject of the Pain Rankings, there
Speaker 1: would be no case keen of magic on Sunday in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: A mir abduel around for ninety four yards on that
Speaker 1: touchdown and Detroit's defense did the rest and a fourteen
Speaker 1: to seven win over the Vikings. Have a juicy juicy
Speaker 1: a tidbit coming up based on that score. Get excited
Speaker 1: America and overseas. The biggest story of this game, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: was injury Viking star rookie running back Dalvin Cook suffered
Speaker 1: a non contact a knee injury that is believed to
Speaker 1: be a torn a c L. They'll have tests on
Speaker 1: Monday to confirm it, but that's what the team fears.
Speaker 1: And based on Cook's uh, you know, face and his
Speaker 1: body language immediately after he seemed to know something very
Speaker 1: bad happened with his knee, market's terrible news. And it
Speaker 1: could have the effect of short circuiting another Viking season. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of you know, there aren't
Speaker 1: that many rookies that are playing a more pivotal workhorse
Speaker 1: role than Dalvin Cooking. And the team changed. The offense
Speaker 1: entirely changed after that because the drop off to Jerick
Speaker 1: McKinnon is steep, and there was a sequence in this game.
Speaker 1: You come, you're you're coming out a half time if
Speaker 1: you're the Vikings, you're up seven to three. McKinnon fumbles
Speaker 1: the ball in the second offensive snap of the third
Speaker 1: quarter for the Vikings. Detroit down seven to three, drives
Speaker 1: quickly for a field goal seven six. The next play
Speaker 1: for the Vikings on their possession, Dalvin Cook you can
Speaker 1: see him grabbing his knee a non contact injury loop
Speaker 1: using the ball a fumble again picked up by the Vikings,
Speaker 1: by the by the Lions. The Lions marched down for
Speaker 1: a touchdown, fourteen to seven. Game over. It was a
Speaker 1: very bizarre game. But you now have the Vikings team
Speaker 1: without Sam Bradford. Hopefully he'll be back soon, but you
Speaker 1: have essentially Dalvin Cook ripped out of this offense. It
Speaker 1: is a drastic loss. It's it's a It makes me
Speaker 1: look at Minnesota's season is potentially over. M I think
Speaker 1: that's that's going too far. If they might be, but
Speaker 1: if they get Bradford back. But you're right. I mean,
Speaker 1: when Latavius Murray was signed, people thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be the starter. So he's going to be the
Speaker 1: guy that I think they lean on in terms of
Speaker 1: running downs, but he hasn't really shown much special in
Speaker 1: Minnesota or Oakland for that matter. I think the receivers
Speaker 1: and Rudolph and the defense potentially, I mean, the defense
Speaker 1: played well enough the Lions at two fifty yards in
Speaker 1: this game. It's not like a lot of great offensive game.
Speaker 1: The Lions were going up and down the field. But
Speaker 1: they need Bradford back back. They absolutely uh do need
Speaker 1: him back. Guys, and I and I. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: who says no? It's but who says no? Game? I
Speaker 1: want to hear that tidbit that's coming up in a
Speaker 1: second Adrian Peterson, the Vikings say, now for a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick? Who says no? Adrian? The Vikings pick up
Speaker 1: the phone, call up the Saints offer fourth round pick
Speaker 1: for Adrian Peterson? Or who says yes? Who says no?
Speaker 1: I would I would say no if I were the
Speaker 1: Vikings to the Vikings would not. You just said yourself.
Speaker 1: It was a steep drop off to Jared. I don't
Speaker 1: view from what I've seen from Adrian Peterson as the
Speaker 1: answer on any level. I don't think the Vikings four
Speaker 1: carries today. I don't think the Vikings would trade a
Speaker 1: conditional seventh round pick for Adrian Peterson. I don't think
Speaker 1: they would sign him for the league minimum or give
Speaker 1: up anything. I think they rather have. That's just how
Speaker 1: I think they view him. Two Guystavius Murray and mckinn Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, listen, get back. I'm just saying throwing
Speaker 1: it out there. What else was doing for it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think they could find maybe there are some running
Speaker 1: backs out there that could be available. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think off the top of my head, but he's not
Speaker 1: the one. Sorry. Finally, my little tidbit the last time.
Speaker 1: The game ended with a fourteen to seven final score.
Speaker 1: Taking guests, everybody give me a year, Give me a year,
Speaker 1: Mark two thousand and seven, Greg nineteen six, Louis Cannon
Speaker 1: the correct answer. Week four of the two thousand four season,
Speaker 1: the Giants defeated Green Bay fourteen seven. This is the
Speaker 1: eighties six game that ended UH four seven NFL history
Speaker 1: including playoffs that uh The NFL media reach, what do
Speaker 1: I win? You know, win anything you get? Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: freak contest, great contest starting quarterbacks in that game. I
Speaker 1: believe we're two Hall of famers Bred five and Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1: How about that nice nice tid, bro nice tid that
Speaker 1: could come up potentially in the subreddit super contest. On
Speaker 1: Tuesday's episode, get ready Greg, because it's coming back. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to win it for the Jets. In overtime,
Speaker 1: Captain zero out of the hold of lock, edwards from
Speaker 1: forty one yards out the snow, The place is on
Speaker 1: the way end over and twards the up lights as
Speaker 1: down right down the Medal, Bob Yeah, Boba Susan and
Speaker 1: Marty Lions Uh. With the call, Chandler Cannon zero kicked
Speaker 1: a forty one yard field goal with twenty eight seconds
Speaker 1: left and overtime, lifting the Jets to a wacky, strange
Speaker 1: three to twenty win over the Jacksonville Jaguars at the
Speaker 1: Meadow ends a game that was ten ten UH at
Speaker 1: the half. The Jets got it up to twenty to
Speaker 1: ten and had the ball deep in UH in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: territory looking to put the game away, and then Myles
Speaker 1: jack had a really nice UH pick up of a
Speaker 1: backward pass from Josh mccounty, scoops up on a hop
Speaker 1: and sprints eighty yards the other way to make it
Speaker 1: a game. Josh McCown then threw a bad interception maybe
Speaker 1: not as fault the receiver slipped that led to a
Speaker 1: field goal. Twenty went to overtime, and then it got
Speaker 1: It got a little bit ugly because you had a
Speaker 1: game here with Blake Bortles. Stanks guys, I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy cannot make a play. Another terrible game, although he
Speaker 1: did not get helped out. The Jets won this game,
Speaker 1: but the Jaguars very easily could have won this game.
Speaker 1: In overtime there was around midfield. It was a third
Speaker 1: and three. Portals hadn't even thrown a spiral all game,
Speaker 1: let alone. Uh made a dynamic connection with a receiver
Speaker 1: and he throws a nice tight ball UH to Marquis
Speaker 1: Lee that would have set up the Jaguars first and
Speaker 1: ten right around the Jets thirty and Lee can't make
Speaker 1: the catch. UH. So instead of first and ten in
Speaker 1: field goal range, they punt uh and they never get
Speaker 1: a closer chance than that. Marquis Lee, by the way,
Speaker 1: a little later in overtime misjudged a punt which buried
Speaker 1: them back in deepen their own territory and then set
Speaker 1: up the Jets uh game winning drive. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Jaguars are a bad team, uh,
Speaker 1: because he certainly looked okay in winning two of the
Speaker 1: first three. But this is the type of losses that
Speaker 1: that bad teams start to accumulate where you come back
Speaker 1: but can't seal the game, and the Jets the scamp
Speaker 1: for Sam maybe not going to plan, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, two and two and they had their dignity
Speaker 1: intact as a franchise right now which a lot of
Speaker 1: people were not predicting last month. They're incredibly Maybe they're
Speaker 1: not a bad team, but they're erratic, is the nicest
Speaker 1: thing you can say about them. And everyone's gonna put
Speaker 1: it all on Boardles, but his top receivers are Alan Hernson,
Speaker 1: Market's Lee and the Jaguars defense gave up four hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one yards to the two thousand, seventeen New
Speaker 1: York Jets. So that's not the recipe. I know. They
Speaker 1: want to give the ball to Leonard for Net all day.
Speaker 1: They did. He got the ball twenty nine times between
Speaker 1: his catches and his rushing attempts. They have to score
Speaker 1: twenty points and win this game. That's their recipe. So
Speaker 1: you don't give up four hundred and seventy yards and
Speaker 1: all these points to the Jets. That's just not They
Speaker 1: can't be like that. Where are you at in because
Speaker 1: I would say you were having fun down Stamp for
Speaker 1: Salmon's gone. Dan's all in on them making the playoffs
Speaker 1: at this point. I would say I set it down.
Speaker 1: Stay at this point to be a little disappointing if
Speaker 1: they didn't make well, you were only slightly trolling in
Speaker 1: with that. Come right, And the problem for Greg is
Speaker 1: that it doesn't hurt me one bit because that kind
Speaker 1: of come out okay in this like the Alright, it's
Speaker 1: becoming clear now that the Jets are not horrendous and
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen now it's pretty clear after a week
Speaker 1: unless something changed. I know their schedule tightens up in
Speaker 1: the next few weeks, but uh, they are going to
Speaker 1: get beat by good teams like the Raiders handling them
Speaker 1: at home easily. Uh, but anytime they play a team
Speaker 1: that's like a middling or worst team, they're gonna hang
Speaker 1: with those teams and win some games that they're probably
Speaker 1: gonna end up winning five or six games. And that's
Speaker 1: going to be annoying in terms of them getting that
Speaker 1: quarterback they've been looking for for forty five years. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, there was something there was really
Speaker 1: pressing on me as a Jets fan, and I know
Speaker 1: not alone. First, rooting against the Jets is not a
Speaker 1: fun thing to do if you're an actual true fan.
Speaker 1: And second of all, it was shaping up as an
Speaker 1: embarrassing season where you were just gonna be uh monologue,
Speaker 1: late night show jokes and everyone NonStop memes on Twitter
Speaker 1: and that type of situation. It was kind of like
Speaker 1: that throughout the summer and then like talent scouts saying,
Speaker 1: this is the worst offensive collection we've seen the last
Speaker 1: thirty years, like stuff like that, Like you could forget
Speaker 1: all that now because Todd Bowls give him credit. This
Speaker 1: team is not embarrassing by any stretch. They're just another team.
Speaker 1: I'll give you this. Next week, you play the Browns.
Speaker 1: You're two and two. You play the Browns, and then
Speaker 1: you fast forward two weeks later you got the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: That's a winnable game, and that sandwich is a game
Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots. Can you imagine being three
Speaker 1: and two and dealing with the Patriots? If you ever
Speaker 1: ever ever pulled that off, you will be sky high.
Speaker 1: We have never seen a Dan that way in this show.
Speaker 1: That that would be these have possible things. You're gonna
Speaker 1: beat me and two? Going into the New England game,
Speaker 1: who would have thought, um, yeah, so bad luss with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. They went in there, did there? You already
Speaker 1: gave them the win over the Browns. Let's let's let's
Speaker 1: come down here. I'm not I feel nothing anymore, So
Speaker 1: I'm not angling for there's no psychological warfare curring there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bad lost by the Jaguars who still have a major
Speaker 1: quarterback problem, and and the Jets a nice win and
Speaker 1: blah paul by the way, get get comfortable in Matt Forte.
Speaker 1: Uh your turf toe, don't rush back because blah paula
Speaker 1: should be their lead guy. And even your boy Mark
Speaker 1: Elijah McGuire had a touchdown run that that electrified the
Speaker 1: metal lands. So it was a nice, nice effort by
Speaker 1: the team. And I just want to share one more
Speaker 1: thing about the Jets. Should I say it for Thursday?
Speaker 1: I could say it for Thursday. Let's hear from Keith.
Speaker 1: Is he in this show? No, Keith. Keith was tied
Speaker 1: up with some husband activities so he had to watch
Speaker 1: the game on the DVR. So we don't have Keith
Speaker 1: this week. Uh sounds mysterious. Yeah, you know, he's retired
Speaker 1: now and Keith and deb they do hirement fun things
Speaker 1: on the weekend, so he had to he's playing catchup.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a treat for him. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I will save my my jet other jet thought for
Speaker 1: another show because we're running a little late tonight. Uh.
Speaker 1: So that is uh, all the games leading into Sunday
Speaker 1: night football. So let's close it out with a little carry.
Speaker 1: Gore is the running back. They think it to him.
Speaker 1: Proscentis hit as he throws. Was the arm coming forward?
Speaker 1: You've got Bobby Wagner picking it up, then Bobby wage
Speaker 1: will take it in. So if the place stands as
Speaker 1: Procent goes down, and if the arm wasn't coming forward,
Speaker 1: it will wind up as he touched him. Yes, this
Speaker 1: one got out of hand in a hurry down fifteen
Speaker 1: ten at halftime, the Seahawks rip off what thirty six
Speaker 1: points in the second half. Thirty six plus ten equals
Speaker 1: forty six eighteen win over the Indianapolis Call to uh
Speaker 1: for a little bit while they're a little while there,
Speaker 1: they looked like they might have had a big upset,
Speaker 1: but it just wasn't happening, Uh, Mark Sessler. Uh. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks woke up, the defense woke up, and the better
Speaker 1: team prevailed in their home right. By the end of
Speaker 1: the game, it played out the way that I think
Speaker 1: during the week we thought it very look, I feel
Speaker 1: lucky that we're we had to get to week four
Speaker 1: for me to be blasted away by that hideous anthem,
Speaker 1: but the games an anthem called it an anthem onto you, Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm done, Come on, No, I just think I think
Speaker 1: it's I'm a little discouraged because the game I was
Speaker 1: so excited. The cults to me were thrilling tonight, and
Speaker 1: then the Wheels, I'm just gonna talk right to it
Speaker 1: on the talk of the Wheels just fell completely off.
Speaker 1: And this was the game Seattle needed. I mean to
Speaker 1: answer a lot of questions, and it starts with the
Speaker 1: way they ran the ball too. We'll see, and I
Speaker 1: feel for Alan, Chris and Michelle because they got America
Speaker 1: a dog again. Mostly, um, do you think Millionaire absolutely
Speaker 1: on the show? Not Martha's vine, your Gregg. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, what is that? What is that? Anyway? Any Way,
Speaker 1: a game that was so close at halftime got away,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe it will carry over for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and now they'll start scoring again. But this
Speaker 1: also is a game that started going downhill fast. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how much to put into that second half,
Speaker 1: because the first half, Greg was about as ugly as
Speaker 1: it gets. It was, But in the second half, for
Speaker 1: the second straight week, they found their magic and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson rushing for twenty three yard touchdown where he was
Speaker 1: really fired up afterwards. I like to see that. You
Speaker 1: could almost see the frustration from the start of the
Speaker 1: year coming out and then throwing a beautiful pass downfield
Speaker 1: where he's running across his body, and you think, well,
Speaker 1: can they do that every week? Can they rely on
Speaker 1: these crazy places? They've been relying on it since two
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, So it's really more than the The
Speaker 1: defense is good week after week, and we'll see about
Speaker 1: this performance. It doesn't really change my mind. They had
Speaker 1: two major injuries, though, and that seems to happen almost
Speaker 1: every week for the Seahawks. Uh, you lose Cliff Avril
Speaker 1: earlier in the game, and you lose Chris Carson to
Speaker 1: what looked like a pretty serious injury at running back.
Speaker 1: So even when they win, it seems like they lose
Speaker 1: it when the air cast comes out. It's never good
Speaker 1: at But the good news in the backfield was that
Speaker 1: someone emerged. And again hard to tell what to make
Speaker 1: of the second half of this going forward, but J. D. Mckiszick.
Speaker 1: He had an excellent cut and go run where he
Speaker 1: looked extremely fast and then later in the game, once
Speaker 1: the game had gotten out of hand, he had made
Speaker 1: a nice catch in the end zone for another touchdown.
Speaker 1: So maybe they unearthed a weapon in that back field
Speaker 1: that they can use. We'll see what happens next. Now,
Speaker 1: Thomas rawls a healthy scratch in this game. Eddie Lacy
Speaker 1: actually was running up pretty well when he didn't get
Speaker 1: some work in this game. Uh CG pro sise he
Speaker 1: got him in the mix as well, So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens going forward. No, Chris Carson, you could probably
Speaker 1: safely assume with the mckissic touchdown run which the three
Speaker 1: of us I think to stopped us in our tracks.
Speaker 1: And it's it was when you started. This game was
Speaker 1: just blown wide open at that stage that replay, they
Speaker 1: kept showing it in sort of three three quarters more
Speaker 1: like you know, speed motion. I wanted them to show
Speaker 1: it in real time because the speed and the quickness,
Speaker 1: the gout the seattle keeps unearthing these running backs out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. It's fun when the season starts to take
Speaker 1: shape and the games start to feel like they mean
Speaker 1: a little something. And next week the two and two
Speaker 1: Seahawks go on the road to the three and one
Speaker 1: first place all by themselves, I am, and you start thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, if the Rams can can win that game,
Speaker 1: then then you start worrying if you're a Seahawks fan,
Speaker 1: all right, and save for the preview pods. But nice
Speaker 1: little teeth, a little dish. Next time you hear from
Speaker 1: us will be on Tuesday, when we'll recap the Monday
Speaker 1: night football match up between Mark. I was looking at
Speaker 1: a clickbait article. Come on, the show is still going.
Speaker 1: It's the Redskins, it's the Chiefs. It's a pretty good
Speaker 1: money show I checked out about that was a bit
Speaker 1: of a lot of bifico there, Mark, I gotta be
Speaker 1: honest with I looked at something that caught the captured
Speaker 1: my attention on the internet. Do you care to share?
Speaker 1: Not really? Yeah, I didn't think so. So we will
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday recapping the Monday in a football game. Yes,
Speaker 1: the subreddit super Contest is back on Tuesday, maybe for
Speaker 1: the last time. Maybe it will keep going on. Greg,
Speaker 1: I know you're excited, so make sure you check out
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Speaker 1: uh signed up for the subreddit. Erica the Loose Cannon
Speaker 1: will be posting the latest UH qualification thread. I'll call it.
Speaker 1: I'm just making up stuff now and UH I'll be fun.
Speaker 1: You know better than to throw random, you know, quizzical
Speaker 1: type things at me late on a Sunday night, Dane,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. All right, let's go, let's go.
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