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Speaker 1: This is Media Mash, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, drumping

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Speaker 1: wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of

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Speaker 3: Now your host new he scrugs.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to beautiful ox SNAr, California. Another practice day for

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Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. This is the Media Mash, our first

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Speaker 4: one of the twenty twenty five season. We got Nick Harris,

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Speaker 4: other four war star Telegram here, former NFL player, former

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboy draft pick, three time Emmy Award winner, and

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Speaker 4: you see him on the NFL Network because he's moving

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Speaker 4: on like Jefferson's.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah soomstar soupstar.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you in Los Angeles, it's the perfect place

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Speaker 4: to do all that. So let's start with Tuesday. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's let's let's work our way back to Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: In and out. Are you sure you won't to do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I do, I do. I do. That's why that's why

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Speaker 3: you're here. That's why we're.

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Speaker 4: Doing this show. And the Rams came to town and

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Speaker 4: the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was it. That was it. Rams

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Speaker 3: put in at work on you.

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Speaker 4: So Nick, you tell me your initial thoughts in what

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Speaker 4: you saw Kach Schattenheimer said, we were vanilla.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but hit me.

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Speaker 5: And I'm glad you said that because I expected that

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Speaker 5: going in. So that's why I was looking mainly at

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Speaker 5: trench work, because trench work, it doesn't matter if you're

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Speaker 5: a vanilla, doesn't matter if your chocolate strawberry, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: It's it's those one on one matchups, the intensity and

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Speaker 5: the trenches that still shows up at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day and these joint practices. That's not what I

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Speaker 5: saw on both sides of the ball, especially in the

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Speaker 5: run game. I started on the offensive side for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: and it was Chared Verse just blowing things up, multiple

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Speaker 5: tackles for loss in the early team periods, and then

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Speaker 5: I switched over to the defensive side, and it was

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Speaker 5: much of the same thing, especially in the defensive interior.

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Speaker 5: There was no push generated up front by those guys.

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Speaker 5: The only defensive tackle that I really saw showing up

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Speaker 5: And you know, there's a lot to learn, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot to take away from that. But when you preach

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Speaker 5: having a physical camp. When you preach having this intensity

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Speaker 5: that you want to bring to the field, and then

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Speaker 5: a RAMS team comes in here and just overpowers you physically.

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Speaker 5: It's a little concerning. I don't know if there's any

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Speaker 5: red flags you can take away from a joint practice

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Speaker 5: this early in the season, this early in camp, but

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Speaker 5: I think there are some things that you can say

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Speaker 5: that's not a good sign going towards the going towards

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Speaker 5: the season.

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Speaker 3: Media masage brought to you by Tostitos. All right, Isaiah,

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Speaker 3: stand back.

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Speaker 4: You and I chatted a little bit during the during

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Speaker 4: that practice with the Rams, and so give me your takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Let me preface my comments first by saying, we can't

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Speaker 1: get in there and really watch the film the nitty gritty,

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Speaker 1: the way in which we would during the normal season.

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Speaker 1: We don't have access to that film. But so we

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Speaker 1: are really basing a lot of our comments off of

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Speaker 1: what we just saw, right, And you're looking at twenty

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Speaker 1: you miss some things. But from what I saw, like

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Speaker 1: to your point, Nick, these the Rams won the trenches

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Speaker 3: One of the trenches. That's where my eyes went as well.

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Speaker 1: Also, I spent about seventy percent on Dallas Cowboys defensive

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Speaker 3: Now. The seemingly is a lot of depth.

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Speaker 1: They seemingly have had a lot of success against our

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Speaker 1: They had time to do so. So the defensive front

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Speaker 1: did not get a push the defensive backs. Yes, there's

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Speaker 1: Those things staying true regardless of how vanilla you are.

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Speaker 1: And I felt like our dbs were a little bit

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Speaker 3: That was something that was encouraging to see.

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Speaker 1: When time was created for the quarterbacks, receivers had time,

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Speaker 1: they were actually to get open. Other than that special teams,

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Speaker 1: I know I know it's not a popular topic, but

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Speaker 1: you know you have. But you have comane Terpin who's

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Speaker 4: And new staff, you can take some comfort in that.

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Speaker 4: And special teams three phases you want to win that

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Speaker 4: I've learned not to take that for granted. And Isaiah,

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Speaker 4: him credit. He didn't try to share code in terms

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Speaker 3: Now. He did say, you know, we were vanilla.

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Speaker 4: But I was like, I didn't know if they were

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Speaker 4: they would vanilla, but they do it that French one

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Speaker 3: I was like, who's thirteen? You know you look at

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Speaker 3: the I said, steps the.

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Speaker 4: Little dude from the Georgia who was supposed to make

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Speaker 4: Right right, So I'm like, okay, things have changed. And

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Speaker 4: It was a swore around around Aaron white Cotton because

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Speaker 3: Uh what happened? Did he say? What happened? Was he basically?

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Speaker 4: They kind of had the company line down, and like,

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Speaker 4: I asked, I asked coach Whitecott, what do you need

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Speaker 4: they said the defensive defensive shot Hubert about the defense

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Speaker 4: things different. So they're using it as a a teaching tool,

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Speaker 4: is what he said in his expectations. So that's to

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Speaker 4: Saturday is how do they make their adjustments. You've got

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Speaker 4: a little bit on film to see. Now if they

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Speaker 5: Know Schotenheimer has built this program off of their identity being, Hey,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be physical, we're gonna run the football, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna stop the run. We didn't see that on Tuesday,

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Speaker 5: so you would you would hope to see some improvement.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to flip your flip it on a

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Speaker 5: head and be one hundred percent successful on Saturday, but

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Speaker 5: you need to see improvement on Saturday. And if you don't,

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Speaker 1: Uh he did a I respect him for how he

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Speaker 1: responded to the media because you see him. He's probably

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Speaker 1: one of the most bubbly, outspoken, accessible coaches that I

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Speaker 1: you saw his mood change really when you know, post

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Speaker 1: practice when he had addressed to media. But he owned it.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, they got the they got the

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Speaker 1: brought up new in terms of PAD level and being

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Speaker 1: why you hear these coaches speaking to mental errors.

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Speaker 3: There's no excuse for that.

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Speaker 1: Hear these coaches talking about PAD level, There's no excuse

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Speaker 1: for that. So those are things that are all correct

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Speaker 1: he also sat up there and said, I got frustrated,

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, I took some shots and

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Speaker 1: I ran some plays that I didn't anticipate running because

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Speaker 1: I didn't want them to see it. But when you're

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Speaker 1: to put somebody back in their mouth, right, which is

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Speaker 1: why he called the deep bomb to Jalen Brugs from

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Speaker 1: you know with Joe Milden. You know, those are things

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Speaker 1: that he was like, he admittedly said, I wasn't supposed

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Speaker 3: Joe. Joe put that SF on it at least one yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he said it again.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, we planned to be vanilla in

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Speaker 3: Unless I get frustrated.

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Speaker 4: So I said, this is this is one of the

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Speaker 4: with former players. So explain pad level to people who

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Speaker 1: So both on the offensive line, it's really is at

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Speaker 3: I love DC. I love DC. But it's our video.

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Speaker 1: I want to know that Donovan Azeraku's not going to

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Speaker 1: get neuralized like he did against the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Right, He's a young guy.

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Speaker 1: We know what he's capable of, but I want to

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Speaker 1: see it in the game at the professional level.

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Speaker 3: So I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I want to get a boat of confidence with both

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Speaker 1: of those individuals. Somebody who hasn't been on the field

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Speaker 1: because due to injuries, and somebody who's fresh to the

447
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Speaker 1: NFL who's young. I want to see, can you go

448
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Speaker 1: too layers? Can you go two or three rotations deep

449
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Speaker 1: which your defensive ends when the season comes and presents

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Speaker 1: itself right, how nasty can Matt Eberflus get with these

451
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Speaker 1: fronts and personnel groupings, and how much trouble can he

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Speaker 1: provide to the offensive line and their protections. You need

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Speaker 1: to know what are these guys, what capabilities do they possess?

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Speaker 3: For me, it's the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: When Shinty comes is and as the head coach is

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Speaker 4: fris Conference is We're going to be a running football team.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be physical here. The Cowboys are basically

458
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Speaker 4: out here putting two more rookies with Booker and Thomas

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Speaker 4: and thomasin played last year. This is all of this

460
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Speaker 4: is basically in a rookie year. So we saw what

461
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Speaker 4: the issues were last year when they had two rookies,

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Speaker 4: and until you're doing it again and you've got a

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Speaker 4: new offensive line coach who's never coached in the National

464
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Speaker 4: Football League, I'm going to be very interested to see

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Speaker 4: how this first game looks.

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Speaker 3: Can they give Joe Milton time to throw?

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Speaker 4: Can they open up some holes so we could see

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Speaker 4: something from Jayden Blue and I fast forward to the

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Speaker 4: first game of the year, which will be Philadelphia. You

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Speaker 4: can't block the Eagles, baby, You're in trouble. And you

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Speaker 4: know what the history has shown us the last five years.

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Speaker 4: You leave that Cowboy defense on the field for thirty

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Speaker 4: minutes plus, you're usually going to find yourself on the

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Speaker 4: losing into football games. If they're going to protect the defense,

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Speaker 4: they've got to run the football and control the clock.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I'm looking at that offensive I need

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Speaker 4: it to be elite. I need them to at least

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Speaker 4: give the backs an opportunity to give Blue a hole

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Speaker 4: to see, give Milton an extra second to throw.

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Speaker 3: Because you talked about Isaiah when when they had a

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Speaker 3: little bit of time they can deliver. They could deliver.

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Speaker 4: And these receivers, you know they're good, yes, but you

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Speaker 4: know anytime a big fangios go figure out, hey, how

484
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Speaker 4: do I how do I how do I make this

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Speaker 4: offensive line? How do I run some stunts? How do

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Speaker 4: I get these guys off something they have not seen before?

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Speaker 4: So for me, it starts with the rams, and we

488
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Speaker 4: know whether it's vanilla or French vanilla. The Rams go

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Speaker 4: set up here and be physical with you, and so

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Speaker 4: meet the challenge.

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Speaker 7: You.

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Speaker 1: I have to add on to it. It's so hard

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Speaker 1: to pick one person. I picked two. Obviously I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pick two more. Okay, going to I went to the

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Speaker 1: d NS. Now I'm coming to the interior. Right, we

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Speaker 1: always we know that the interior defensive line has been

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Speaker 1: a topic of discussion for some years. Now for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: we obviously know who the starters are going to be.

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Speaker 1: Most likely it's gonna be Osa Digi Zu with the

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Speaker 1: brand new paycheck. And then you brought in Solomon Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Those are your two tried and true guys that you

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Speaker 1: can trust. Behind them, Behind them, you have the Mazzie Smith,

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Speaker 1: who is your first round pick from you know from

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Speaker 1: three years ago.

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Speaker 3: Now, what's he gonna do? You also had Jay Toya, right,

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Speaker 3: what's he gonna do?

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Speaker 1: You know? He reminds me of Gilbert Brown when I

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Speaker 1: see him out there with the pads on, you know,

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Speaker 1: the big body exactly.

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Speaker 3: But can those guys stop the run? Right, Mazzi?

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Speaker 1: He's at the point of his career now where at

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Speaker 1: that time in regardless of your first round pick or

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Speaker 1: your seventh round pick, if the team's invested in you,

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Speaker 1: you have to show something you have. You have to show.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I have my sentiments, I have my sentiments, but

516
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Speaker 3: just to give.

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Speaker 1: Him respect and coming up to this year, this these

518
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Speaker 1: three games, these three games are important for him to

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Speaker 1: disprove what everybody's beliefs are about him to this point.

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Speaker 1: And and you guys say, oh, it's not a regular season.

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Speaker 1: This is his regular season. And this is people are

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Speaker 1: asking questions about, you know, why isn't Micah getting paid?

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Speaker 1: In order to listen, I understand it from both ends,

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Speaker 1: from the player standpoint and from the business standpoint.

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Speaker 3: I need to see what I have do I need?

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Speaker 1: If if I'm the Jones right and I'm the upper management,

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Speaker 1: do I have that position taken care of?

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Speaker 5: If not talking about Detackle, yes, if not, I.

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Speaker 1: Need to look at my at my bank account and

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Speaker 1: go find figure out how I can go fill that void.

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Speaker 3: Right. So like there's a lot of moving parts right now.

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Speaker 1: You have two interior DEFENSI alignments that you were confident

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Speaker 1: with behind them who.

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Speaker 4: Bill Parcells used to quote Tom Landry and he said,

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Speaker 4: all right, by year three we got to see something yep.

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting when you said D's like, yeah, he

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Speaker 4: was around Belichick who learned from Parcels.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: It's year three and people can say, well it's this

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Speaker 4: third coordinator. Hey, it's time to show something. And Mozzi

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Speaker 4: when we interviewed him NICKI the other day, I said,

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Speaker 4: you've been out here, so he said the right things

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Speaker 4: saying is in doing. We have to see it, and

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Speaker 4: I don't care how vanilla they are.

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Speaker 3: Nick, you talked about trench works. Trenchwork.

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Speaker 4: You gotta show something here and it needs to start

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Speaker 4: on Saturday. I mean, there's no more excuses, there's no

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Speaker 4: more this or that. Show something because if not, I say, right,

549
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Speaker 4: this schedule and the teams they're playing, if you can't

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Speaker 4: stop me, we know what Philly's going to do. You

551
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Speaker 4: know what's coming Game one, you know what's coming. And

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Speaker 4: if Mazi can't be a contributor and help out, that's

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Speaker 4: going to be a problem. If they're going to be

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Speaker 4: a team that wants to compete for a playoff spot

555
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Speaker 4: and get back in and get back into the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: Mozzie Smith has to be a big part of the equation.

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Speaker 4: He has to be a contributing factor for this football team.

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Speaker 3: On defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when you talk about wanting to be physical,

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Speaker 5: it starts with the guys at the spine of the defense,

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Speaker 5: especially defensively, and it begins with Mozzie Smith. That's the

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Speaker 5: first guy you run into when you run down that spine.

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Speaker 5: And what was the quote he had the other day

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Speaker 5: when we were talking to him, It was like uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, is this going to be a breakout year

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Speaker 5: for you? He said something along the lines of, I

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Speaker 5: don't have any other choice, or like, it's when else

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Speaker 5: am I going to do it? So he at least

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Speaker 5: knows that there's some urgency, that there's some pressure around

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Speaker 5: what his spot looks like. But the thing about the

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Speaker 5: NFL right now, at the defensive tackle position, Let's say

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys moved on from Mossie Smith at the end

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Speaker 5: of camp. They're not going to. Let's say that they did,

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Speaker 5: he'd get picked up and he would play somewhere. You know,

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Speaker 5: that's how bad defensive tackle position is around the league.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: It's not to you know, give any excuses to this

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Speaker 5: team because they had a first round pick there and

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Speaker 5: they picked it on a guy that has not performed

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Speaker 5: to the guys that were picked behind him at his position.

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Speaker 5: But you know, there's a lot of teams that are

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Speaker 5: in similar straits. But for Mazzie Smith, when you factor

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Speaker 5: in the draft pick value, when you factor in the

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Speaker 5: experience he's had here now and a defensive front, defensive

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Speaker 5: line coach that has put a lot of effort and

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Speaker 5: attention into him this training camp, you want to see more.

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Speaker 5: You have to see more.

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Speaker 3: You have to see, you have to This is year three.

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Speaker 3: We need to see something here. Let's get our break

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Speaker 3: in here.

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Speaker 4: Isaiah, you mentioned something about Micah Parsons that I want

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Speaker 4: to dive into next week. Come back to Nick Harirri's

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Speaker 4: Fort Warstar Telegram, Isaiah, stand back. Dallas Cowboys NFL Network.

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Speaker 3: I new he Scruggs. You got Isaiah? Stand back? How

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Speaker 3: many of means you up for here at the end

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Speaker 3: of the month?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Only two? Man? I put in three? Man, But I'm

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Speaker 3: only got nominated for two. I'm mad.

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Speaker 5: Right, we'll be there. We'll get one.

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Speaker 3: Nick.

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Speaker 5: Nick, you you nominate to one documentary?

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Speaker 3: Okay, documentary, Oh the cow the Cowboys do really well?

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Speaker 3: Weep really well? Who's the competition? Looked at? Who you

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Speaker 3: conpeting against?

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Speaker 5: You got a couple of other cowboys documentaries? We got

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Speaker 5: a uh a Mavericks documentary I think, and then A

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Speaker 5: and M made one too. You know, you know I've

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Speaker 5: scouted the comp picked up I do not that's a problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but I'm taking my mama. I just figured that out yesterday.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be me and my mama and Echo Lounge.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a good time.

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Speaker 3: I gotta figureut who I'm taking.

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Speaker 5: The first is my first one. I take my first one.

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Speaker 1: I took my wife, then I took my mom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this would be my third appearance. I gotta figure out.

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Speaker 3: Who I'm rolling with that time. Yeah, so hard. But

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Speaker 3: you take you're taking the moms. That's good for your choice, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: good choice, bro.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully there's not a practice. You got the day off,

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Speaker 4: tell you tell your boss like, hey, I'm on this dad, and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all regardless of well, I don't think there's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a practice that day, but hopefully not.

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Speaker 3: Let's hope not. Let's hope not.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Isaiah last year was the wheelbarrow guy

650
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Speaker 4: because there was a practice that he just kept coming

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Speaker 4: up there, excepting the wars for Drew and everybody else,

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Speaker 4: like man, who got the wheelbrow take all these emmys back.

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Speaker 1: Here the Dallas they have the open practice night that

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Speaker 1: yeah they did, they did so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were up there, Isaiah back here again

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Speaker 4: again in that day, Yes you did. You made a

657
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Speaker 4: lot of speeches and thankfully you made your own as well.

658
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: So Nick is going to be good. I remember when

659
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 4: we got to see Kyle Yeomens when his first when

660
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: I gave him big hug off the stage in Isaiah too,

661
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: and yeah, so it was pretty cool man.

662
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: So good luck.

663
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Speaker 4: But the Cowboys always do well at the Lone Star Emmys,

664
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Speaker 4: and that's going to be the twenty fifth, uh echoed

665
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: lounge right across from Dallast matters practice silly all right,

666
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: back to the Cowboys here, and you spoke Isaiah about

667
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: one Michael Parsons here. You played the National Football League,

668
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: he played for the Cowvi, he's played for the Patriots.

669
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: You've seen contract situations happening, you definitely have seen them.

670
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Speaker 3: Here you are. You said that you're the belief this

671
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: is gonna get done. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna get done.

672
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: This is all posturing, this is all this is how

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Speaker 1: negotiations go down.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five.

676
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Speaker 1: You have you know, mister Jones, who's obviously had his

677
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: fair share of the seemingly it's every single year that

678
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: is going to be the case even going into the

679
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Speaker 1: next year. You guys can expect the same thing with

680
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Speaker 1: Tyler Smith that George Pickens wants to stick around. He

681
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: has a good year. You got two big names that

682
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to figure that out next year. So

683
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: get used to it, Cowboys Nation. But from a player standpoint,

684
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: you have never seen a player what do they call

685
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: it a lock in or a stand in? Whatever you

686
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: want to refer to it as hold in, hold in,

687
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: and be this bold with it.

688
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Right.

689
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Speaker 1: So I think Jerry Jones, and you've heard Jerry Jones

690
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: talk about respect for Michael Parsons. You've heard Jerry Jones

691
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: talk about how smart Michael Parsons is. You talked, you

692
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: heard him talk about how he is a unique individual,

693
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: and he respects him as a business. All the stuff

694
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: you're seeing it, you're seeing it, and Micah is going

695
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: about his business. What people don't see is Micah's in meetings.

696
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: What people don't see is Micah's in walkthroughs. What you

697
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: people don't see is Mike is still doing his workouts,

698
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: He's still doing his walkthroughs. He's still doing all the

699
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: things that you would do except for practicing.

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Speaker 4: Nick it was what white Cotton said about that yesterday. Yeah,

701
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Speaker 4: go ahead, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I asked him about, you know, what value has Michael

703
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: provided in these meetings by still being here? And he

704
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 5: said he's been great. He said, whether it's you know,

705
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 5: him being like hey, I see this, like hey keep

706
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 5: an eye on this, tackle doing this. Uh, And he

707
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: said he's really put his arm around some of the

708
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 5: younger guys. He wouldn't dive into names, but Shoty did

709
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: last week and he talked about Azaraku and how Micah

710
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: has really been able to help him here in his

711
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 5: rookie camp and helped kind of guide him along. But

712
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: whenever you talk to the coaching staff, I mean, it's

713
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: been nothing but great reviews about what Micah has provided

714
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: while he's been here. While since he's he hasn't been

715
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: on the field.

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Speaker 4: So I got to ask you this, Isaiah, because you're

717
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: over there working the NFL networking and Nick and I

718
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: we as media members, we have frustrations at times as

719
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 4: we watch some of the national people who push these narratives.

720
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: You're like, you know, like you don't know because you're

721
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: not there, So how do you go about educating your audience?

722
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: And even to some of the producers when they come

723
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: on to come up with the Cowboys storylines about what

724
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: the real is because you're.

725
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Here, No, I'm every time I go to the network.

726
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm fighting on behalf of the Cowboys organization. And it's

727
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: because obviously I have more insight, but I also understand

728
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: it from like I said, both both perspectives. Most people

729
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: take the fan route because that's what they know. I

730
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: understand it from the fan, the player and the business.

731
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Speaker 1: So I'm able to have this different perspective about how

732
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Jerry goes about his business. And I also understand how

733
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: hard it is to put together a winning roster. And

734
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: people think that you could just show up and get

735
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: to the divisional game, and people you don't want to

736
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: dart the Cowboys about how they haven't been there.

737
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Speaker 3: Look at the division right, Look at how challenging it is.

738
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Speaker 1: You know, in the last you know whatever fifteen years,

739
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: the you've had what four trips to the Super Bowl

740
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Speaker 1: out of your division?

741
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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

742
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Your division, not even I mean,

743
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: that's just difficult that you're facing every year. So putting

744
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: together a roster, having these guys at the top of

745
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: their pay brackets is just tough to put together a roster.

746
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Speaker 3: So I'm always fighting on their behalf.

747
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Speaker 1: But I educate the my crew, you know, in terms

748
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: of NFL network, whenever I see them, give them whatever

749
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: behind the scenes information that I have to help them

750
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Speaker 1: change their perspective because they are in a position to

751
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: push the narrative forward to the public eye. Because the

752
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: public they receive the information from us. They're not here

753
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: seeing the things that we see. Even in regards to Micah,

754
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: there's things that we see that we can't always speak on,

755
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: but we have that back in knowledge, right, so we're able.

756
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Speaker 3: To speak from it logically and not emotionally. So I

757
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: want to point this out and give me both of you,

758
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: give me your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: With the Tuesday practice and the families were over there

760
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: hanging out and uh one gentleman comedy talk saying, oh

761
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: this is Michael's mom. Then I'm thinking to myself, well,

762
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Speaker 4: you want to be traded, you want to be no

763
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: what what you know?

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Speaker 3: Family wouldn't be here. I'm just saying to myself, this

765
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: is like the Miles Garrette. I want to be traded?

766
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Speaker 3: How much? Okay, thank you?

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Speaker 5: That's my I'm glad we were able to speak this

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Speaker 5: up right.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking, if you were done, I don't

770
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Speaker 3: want to be here anymore.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't bring moms out here in the family, would you.

772
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Speaker 3: You were not? You were not. And that's why I said, like,

773
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: is you really done? Like we're done. If you're done,

774
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be here. You know, we've heard my I

775
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: say that. You know.

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Speaker 1: He he he protects his money, his cheddar, his paper,

777
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So he's not going to

778
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: get fined by not being here. But he also has

779
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: a bolt of confidence that he is going to get

780
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Speaker 1: the payday because he is here, he's present, The coaches

781
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: are still rolling him through or walk throughs all these

782
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of things. Like he's gonna get his money. There's

783
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Speaker 1: no question. He just understands this is a part of

784
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: the business. And mister Jones understands this is a part

785
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: of the business. You know, I'm mister Jones is not

786
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: afraid to talk to the media. He's not afraid to

787
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: answer these hard questions. He's not afraid to mind everybody

788
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: that he's in a position of power and that they

789
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: have a current contract. It's gonna get done, y'all. You

790
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: have to say what you got to say. You have

791
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: to do what you have to do in order for

792
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: something to get done. But ultimately his pockets are gonna

793
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: be heavy. He's got to wear some some nice little denims.

794
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: They hold that money up.

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Speaker 5: The only question I do have, though, I agree with you, Isaiah.

796
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: I think it gets done. The only question I do

797
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: have though, is if it's not done by week one,

798
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: does he hold out of games? And I think that's

799
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 5: probably a concern we would have.

800
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Speaker 3: As of right now, I don't foresee it going that far.

801
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: I think the Joneses will take it up to that

802
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: point we saw with Dak.

803
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: Where we're literally up to that point.

804
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Literally on game day right, So it might get to

805
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: that point. But Micah's in shape, Micah's inform. Micah knows

806
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: the communication, he knows the play calls, he knows all

807
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: the stuff so to be able to insert him. He

808
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: is out of everybody who's had to get their deal

809
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: done over the recent years, Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, Zach Martin,

810
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: those three guys in particular, Micah's necessity to be in

811
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: practice is the least of all those guys.

812
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: Let's be honest, he don't practice anyway.

813
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

814
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: But as a defensive end, I don't need to practice

815
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: because I can speak to or watch film to communicate

816
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: with my guys. As offensive lineman, I need to work

817
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: as a unit. As a receiver, I need to have

818
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: timing with my quarterback. As a quarterback, I need to

819
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: have timing with my receivers. Micah is the least netting.

820
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to know how to say it.

821
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be a brand.

822
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: You two guys are too young to remember.

823
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: But I remember when Laurence Taylor missed a whole training

824
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 4: camp and I think the first game was on Monday

825
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: Night football and he put he got on the field, he.

826
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Speaker 3: Just put on a show.

827
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 8: Yeah.

828
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, this is and I can't I said, yeah,

829
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: this is gonna be a problem because more people can

830
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: say I don't need to be a camp because you

831
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: just watched Lawrence Taylor put on an absolute show and

832
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: and Micah Parsons has ability to put on an absolute

833
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: show without having to be here day to day in camp.

834
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 4: So he's he's that kind a football player. Special player.

835
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Speaker 3: Here.

836
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Speaker 4: So Nick who signs first Hendrickson, Trey Andrisonati, Terry McLaurin, MICHAEH. Parson,

837
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: that's a good one right now, have asked for trades.

838
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 5: I would probably go with Hendrickson because I think Cincinnati

839
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: has finally got their their handle around everything else that

840
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: they were dealing with this offseason and now it's full

841
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: focus on Hendrickson. Hendrickson has been back at camp. I

842
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 5: would assume that that one gets done for really.

843
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say Micah Hendrickson. And I think Scary

844
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: Terry is my dude. I think he gets traded.

845
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see that.

846
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: I think he genuinely gets traded. I don't.

847
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Cincinnati has the money that Henderson wants.

848
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 5: That's fair.

849
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: So I think that that's gonna take.

850
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Speaker 1: That might go into the season for them to see that, hey,

851
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: we need this production. Mike is gonna get done before

852
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: the season starts, because there's no way to Mister Jones

853
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: allows some cowboys to touch to take the field on

854
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: opening night, Opening night against the Eagles without Michael Parsons

855
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: is not happening. It's listen, it's not happening. And I

856
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: that's that's where And I think Scary Terry. I think

857
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: I think they're legit and beefing. I think that's I

858
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: think that is legit.

859
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: Beef All right, guys, this was fun. This was fun.

860
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Speaker 3: I gotta go catch a flight here, Oh little.

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Speaker 4: Private, Yeah, I got feelings feeling American private, American Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris for Ward Star Telegracion, stand back Dallas Cowboys

863
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Speaker 4: and NFL that we're both Emmy nominated.

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Speaker 3: Guys right here, Hopefully.

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Speaker 5: Were you recording us this whole time?

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Speaker 3: Was not? But I can let me. I got you.

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Speaker 3: helped out. Right here. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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