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Speaker 2: I just want to make sure Aaron nobody else is

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Speaker 2: getting fired right Like this is like we are finally done,

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Speaker 2: whether it be in college football or the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: Like we're done now, We're done at nine at least

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I wasn't planning on opening the show like this,

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Speaker 3: but I did have this thought. Today Bills get blown

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Speaker 3: out in Denver.

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Speaker 2: I I know, I I know it could be ten

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Speaker 2: right because I was seriously thinking.

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Speaker 3: About it because I have been on if the Bills

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Speaker 3: do not make the Super Bowl, as Josh Allen's prime

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Speaker 3: is winding down, do you make the move? The problem is,

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Speaker 3: do you have to now hold on to Sean McDermott

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Speaker 3: for one year longer because all of the good candidates

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Speaker 3: may be gone by the time you're eliminated, even as

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Speaker 3: early as this coming Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I think the teams that have really good situations have

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Speaker 2: no problem if they need to move on from the

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Speaker 2: head coach because they think they can get the top candidates.

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Speaker 2: It's not who is available, meaning the candidates. It's not

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Speaker 2: what jobs are available, meaning the teams. It's the number

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Speaker 2: that is shocking to me, because I feel aarin that

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, we're heading into week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: We knew the Giants job was open in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We knew the Titans job was open in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. We knew those jobs were going to be filled.

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Speaker 2: We then assumed that there were rumblings maybe the Falcons

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, and all of our shouldn't

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Speaker 2: say all most of our NFL insiders that we talked

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Speaker 2: to and bring on say about a handful of openings.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say handful, four to six. Let's give leeway.

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Speaker 2: Three to seven is not a handful. Let's just say

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Speaker 2: four to six. And after the first twenty four hour

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Speaker 2: cycle that we had, we had six. Arizona got rid

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Speaker 2: of Gannon, Pete Carroll was out with the Raiders. I

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Speaker 2: mentioned Raheem Morris, Kevin Stefanski was done with the Browns,

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Speaker 2: and then a few days later it's John Harbaugh, and

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Speaker 2: then it's Mike McDaniel, and now it's Mike Tomlin stepping aside.

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Speaker 2: So we've got nine openings, the words of Ed Rooney,

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Speaker 2: nine nine openings in the National Football League. And again,

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Speaker 2: what is shocking to me, Aaron, is that now more

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Speaker 2: And I am trying to put my finger on why

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Speaker 3: So thinking about this and thinking about the raw numbers

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was noteworthy. The owner and his

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Speaker 3: he said for one more week, and then the insinuation

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Speaker 2: I thought that on the surface as well. On the surface,

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Speaker 2: my immediate gut reaction is this is a one off.

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Speaker 2: And this is what stood out to me was next

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Speaker 2: But if you think that this is a one off,

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Speaker 3: And we think the Chiefs will be bad next year too.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he needs a fresh start. I just mentioned Matt

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Speaker 2: point is is I'm adding names. Dan Quinn in Washington,

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Speaker 2: So it's the turnaround of the Patriots after one awful

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Speaker 2: let's make the run. And I just I don't think

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Speaker 3: By the way, a funner way to look at it is,

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Speaker 3: Like, how many guys could just have a train wreck

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Speaker 3: it's something that's a little bit of a cliche talking

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, you know you brought in your quarterback, the

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Speaker 2: Just like that. Jason Stewart, do you see any correlation

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Speaker 2: They haven't shown us, you know, anything different. We will.

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Speaker 6: The coaching world, in the sports world has completely changed.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's been forever since we've seen some

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Speaker 3: the schedule gets pushed back where that Sunday night game is.

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Speaker 3: The Sunday second game is basically an evening game, six

435
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Speaker 3: thirty Eastern start Rams versus Bears. You know that game

436
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Speaker 3: is gonna end at ten pm, and now you're asking

437
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Speaker 3: people to recommit to more football on Monday.

438
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Speaker 2: I'm with you, let's get it done on front. The

439
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: network portion of it is for ESPN. It's like, hey,

440
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: guess what, we got another Monday night football game. It's

441
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Speaker 2: just for the National Championship.

442
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Speaker 3: And it's for the branding. But I just, well, I

443
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: think it's a lame way to incorporate the brand.

444
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Speaker 2: I honestly, I was exhausted from watching Texan Steelers on

445
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Speaker 2: Monday night from what we had the previous two days

446
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Speaker 2: in the games and the tripleheader on Sunday, Like it

447
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 2: was just of the games of that magnitude. I'm like,

448
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: all right, now I got Texan Steelers still like, all right,

449
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: can't we move on? Can we get to the next weekend?

450
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Speaker 3: Well, and keep this in mind too, you're both someone

451
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Speaker 3: who works in sports media and is a college football fan.

452
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 3: Now imagine if you were neither, and how likely it

453
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Speaker 3: would be that you would turn on that game on

454
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Speaker 3: Monday night?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely. Now there's a reason that we're talking about

456
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Speaker 2: college football and the National Championship Game is our friends

457
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: over at bet online have used geo tagged data from

458
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Speaker 2: x in trying to find out who is rooting for

459
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Speaker 2: who in the National Championship Game. And I want to

460
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Speaker 2: bring in Iowa, Sam, because it's going to start our

461
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Speaker 2: midway segment. But Sam, if I were to tell you

462
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Speaker 2: of the fifty states, how many do you think are

463
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Speaker 2: cheering for Indiana, the favorite in the National Championship Game

464
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: on Monday, the number one seed, the top seed in

465
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Speaker 2: the game, in the in the bracket, the college football bracket,

466
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Speaker 2: how many of the fifty states, according to the data

467
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Speaker 2: accumulator by bet online, are cheering for Indiana over Miami.

468
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Speaker 3: Forty eight?

469
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Speaker 2: Forty eight? All right, thanks for playing the game. It

470
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Speaker 2: was only forty five. I was hoping you would say

471
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Speaker 2: I don't know twenty five and I say, no, Sam.

472
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Speaker 3: You want to believe this, I know better than that.

473
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Speaker 2: Well no, actually, because you're supposed to play along again

474
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Speaker 2: your low number.

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Speaker 3: Right, Jason, that was really legitimately guessing.

476
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Speaker 2: Let's try it. Let's try Jason. How many states do

477
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Speaker 2: you think Indiana has cheering for them? Of the fifty it.

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Speaker 4: Seems like it's like twenty five is probably split right

479
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Speaker 4: down the middle of Mexican.

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Speaker 2: Forty five's That was the reaction. I was looking for

481
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Speaker 2: forty five of the fifty states cheering for the unbeaten team,

482
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Speaker 2: the number one team in the country, the team that

483
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Speaker 2: is favored by eight and a half. America apparently is

484
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 2: loving Indiana or for some reason they've loved the winner.

485
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Speaker 2: But it's the Hoosiers who get all the love.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this. I'll give credit to one of our colleagues,

487
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: Rob Parker Odd Couple. I was a guest on the show.

488
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Speaker 3: I think it was before the Miami game. So, but

489
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Speaker 3: he made the argument to me, why is Indiana a Cinderella?

490
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Speaker 3: And I don't I'm paraphrasing here, So Rob, if you're listening,

491
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Speaker 3: I don't know the exact quote. But why are they

492
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Speaker 3: a Cinderella or why are they like a feel good story?

493
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Speaker 3: They have a highly compensated quarterback, both their coordinators are

494
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Speaker 3: highly compensated, and in the vacuum of in the nil era,

495
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Speaker 3: a lot of teams can be competitive financially. I thought

496
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Speaker 3: it was an interesting point, but it doesn't seem as though,

497
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Speaker 3: and I'm not criticizing rob in any way, shape or form,

498
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Speaker 3: it doesn't seem as though it's a point that most

499
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Speaker 3: of America seems to agree with because they do still

500
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Speaker 3: see it as a feel good story. Iowa, Sam is

501
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Speaker 3: so fired up in I'm So fired Up.

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Speaker 5: I think people, your average casual sports fan, college fella

503
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Speaker 5: fan has no idea about the compensation, about any of

504
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Speaker 5: that stuff. They just see the brand, They see the

505
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Speaker 5: logo on the helmet, and they know that Indiana has

506
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Speaker 5: been a basketball school for decades and has not never

507
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Speaker 5: been a football school.

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Speaker 3: Really quick two thoughts on that as well. I also

509
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: think the push pull of Signetti and Mendoza also makes

510
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Speaker 3: them more likable. We're like Yang, yes, yeah, like your

511
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: angry uncle that you love, but like you know, like

512
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Speaker 3: you don't try to have a conversation with him at

513
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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving and there's only like four topn He's pessimistic.

514
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Speaker 5: He's just like, no, I don't care. I think he's quirky, quirky.

515
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Speaker 5: He's idiosyncratic for sure. Yes, And then Mendoz is the

516
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: exact opposite. He's just I love smiling. Smiling is my

517
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Speaker 5: favorite minute, cheerful, always putting a positive spin on things.

518
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Speaker 3: He's a leader, so signetti.

519
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Speaker 2: But think about this. America loves an underdog. Since when

520
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: do they love a favorite? And it leads us.

521
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Speaker 3: He's not getting mad with you.

522
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Speaker 2: It's time for.

523
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Speaker 1: The Midway.

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, this is your baby. What are we discussing today?

525
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Speaker 4: I think that we just kind of roll with what

526
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Speaker 4: you guys are talking about now that I've just decided

527
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Speaker 4: in the moment, I think we can roll with what

528
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Speaker 4: you guys that were just talking about it. And also

529
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Speaker 4: I want to throw out, like what is what are

530
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Speaker 4: the teams that America has embraced the most? And also

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Speaker 4: the other side too, what are teams that of America

532
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Speaker 4: has hated the most?

533
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Speaker 3: And why?

534
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Speaker 2: And and on the on the heels of this Indiana

535
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Speaker 2: Miami argument, it was when Miami beat Ohio State, what

536
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Speaker 2: was so shocking to me as an Ohio State fan

537
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: was how many people were cheering for Miami. But it

538
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: wasn't shocking because I know people don't like the Buckeyes.

539
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: I get it. They were the defending national champs. There's

540
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Speaker 2: a lot to not like about them if you're a

541
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Speaker 2: fan of another school. Thought but I thought to myself,

542
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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would be as one sided as

543
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Speaker 2: it was, considering they were playing the you, they were

544
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Speaker 2: playing Miami, they were playing the Hurricanes. But as an

545
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: underdog story, like during that Cotton Bowl on that New

546
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: Year's Eve night, it sure seemed like a lot of

547
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Speaker 2: people were taking joy in Miami knocking off Ohio State.

548
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: So then I wondered to myself, all right, Ohio State

549
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: just really isn't like what are people coming around on Miami?

550
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: Maybe Miami isn't isn't the team that other fans didn't

551
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: like anymore? And then we see this Indiana graphic. Now

552
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering, is it more about Indiana? So I think

553
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: that they're all like connected in that way of who

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: do fans love and who do fans hate?

555
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Speaker 3: Well, if I can go first, well should I go first?

556
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: Because I actually have the counter to what you're saying.

557
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: I can think of a crazy beloved team that also

558
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: wasn't an underdog. It was actually an overwhelming favorite. And

559
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of curious.

560
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Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

561
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Speaker 3: When you talk beloved teams, this was before my time.

562
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Speaker 3: But the first team I think of the nineteen eighty

563
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: five Chicago Bears, like, and they were an overwhelming super

564
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Speaker 3: Bowl favorite. And I'm gonna ask you, guys, I was too.

565
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: I was born but actually I wasn't born, but I

566
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: was born a couple months later. I'm too young to

567
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: remember why they were so beloved.

568
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Speaker 4: Is it?

569
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Speaker 3: Is it solely because of the Super Bowl shuffle? Because

570
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: people still talk about the Chicago Bear nineteen eighty five

571
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears, like they won the Super Bowl three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that had I think that had a

573
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Speaker 2: portion of it. I think the character of the Fridge

574
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: was a portion of it as well. Also with the Bears.

575
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: In going back at that time, if you lead up

576
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Speaker 2: to eighty five, there was still a there was a

577
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Speaker 2: Washington won super Bowls, the Niners won super Bowls. What's

578
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: like the Bears were in and out, like it was

579
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Speaker 2: just all of a sudden, here the Bears are here.

580
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Speaker 2: They're absolutely dominant, full of personalities, which i've I think

581
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Speaker 2: you could say, you know, maybe a team like the

582
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, And this was before Jerry Rice was

583
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: with San Francisco. But you knew Joe Montana, you know,

584
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Speaker 2: you know, you knew the quarterbacks, you knew Joe Feisman

585
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: from Washington, you knew John Riggans late in his career.

586
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: But there were, yeah, there were. I think there were

587
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: just more personality. Raiders won the Super Bowl a couple

588
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: of years prior, and I think the Raiders were more

589
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: of like a villainous team, you know, a team that

590
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: nobody liked because of the silver and black. But I

591
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: think it was all of the personalities, whether it be

592
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Speaker 2: Jim McMahon, whether it be the Fridge, whether it be

593
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: Walter Payton. Why everybody liked that.

594
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 6: Dan You hit on it perfectly because other personalities on

595
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 6: the team, Ditka, their head coach. Even the atmosphere of

596
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 6: Soldier Field back then had a certain mystique to it.

597
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Speaker 6: And you mentioned Jim McMahon. He was one of the

598
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 6: top personalities in all of sports back then. With his headbands.

599
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 6: He would get fined by Pete Roselle for wearing the

600
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 6: headbands with messages on the side. So the next week

601
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 6: he wrote high Pete on his headband. He mooned a

602
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 6: helicopter at the Super Bowl, flying over Bear's practice. And

603
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 6: to this day, I mean they they inspired a whole culture,

604
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 6: Like the super Fans skit on Saturday Night Live, it

605
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 6: has lasted over the years.

606
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Roselle headband, yep, yep. That was very

607
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: in your face, but people loved it. They ate it up.

608
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: We had a we had a refrigerator Perry poster on

609
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: our fridge, like it was meant for the fridge and

610
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: that's what we had on it. And we weren't Bears

611
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: fans by any means. I think that's a I think

612
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: that's a really good call.

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Speaker 4: It's ironic. You say that because I had a Vinnie

614
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: Johnson picture on my microphone in the eighties. I don't

615
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: know about you, guys.

616
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Speaker 5: If you want to eat up, you have to keep,

617
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 5: you know, something in your fridge, and it might be sausage.

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Speaker 3: Sausage.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is.

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Speaker 3: I had a mailman poster on my mail box back

621
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Speaker 3: in the day.

622
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Speaker 2: By the way, good good job. The Duke Blue Devils

623
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: I think were the hated, hated team, and I grew up,

624
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: you talked about eighty five Bears, Like I remember Duke

625
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: always going to final fours and losing, and so then

626
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: them actually beating UNLV was an upset that people loved.

627
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 2: But I think ultimately it then even it turns, and

628
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: it may have even turned next year. Now I was

629
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: not a fan of the Fab Five by any means,

630
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: but like in a way, because Ohio State being a

631
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: rival of Michigan, there was no way I was gonna

632
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: like the Michigan squad. But because Michigan had these five

633
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: freshmen that were going on this unbelievable run and here

634
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: comes Duke going for back to back national championships, I

635
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: think that turned Duke immediately into a villain. And so

636
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: they were at one championship in and they were then

637
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: the bad guy, and I think they've been the bad

638
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: guy ever since.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny. Actually, the other day we

640
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: had in one of the TV studios I do the

641
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: late night show on Saturday that I hate, Christian Laitner

642
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: documentary was on, and I only bring it up because

643
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: in watching it, I wasn't watching it live here in studio.

644
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: I was doing a show. But I think even the

645
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: players on the ninety two team were shocked at how

646
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: quickly everything flipped for them from nobody believed you could

647
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: beat UNLV to oh, we hate you, now we're rooting

648
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 3: against you everywhere we go.

649
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that Kentucky game, like there was The reason

650
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: I bring up the Fab five is because they had

651
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: played in the regular season and so there was familiarity,

652
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: and then they ultimately played in the National championship game

653
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: in that ninety two year. But Kentucky, for as great

654
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: as the Kentucky story is now and their comeback, then,

655
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: I felt it was a different feel back then, where

656
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: because Duke still was kind of like Duke, Like you

657
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: look at that game, it was an amazing game, and

658
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: it's just continued to build and build and build, and

659
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: it meant so much to the Kentucky fans that that

660
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: is also spread outward. But that was the part of

661
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: the quick turn right Regional final. Then a week later

662
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: you're playing in a national championship game. Duke's going from

663
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: back to back. I think that, like Duke is the

664
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: ultimate team to hate place, everyone be quiet. Jason Stewart, Iowa, Sam.

665
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to offer up the the counter to Aaron's counter,

666
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: and I just wish there was an athlete named the

667
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: counter that I could say I put a picture of

668
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: him on my counter. So Aaron said that the Bears

669
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: were dominant, why were they so popular? And I think

670
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: it's because it lasted one year. Not only were they

671
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: popular in that one year. And I think that I

672
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: think your last statement is true. I think it speaks

673
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: to the power spoke to the power of MTV at

674
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: the time. But I think the Patriots are the counter

675
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: example of that. The Patriots winning for so many years

676
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: I think created this hatred, this national hatred for them,

677
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: so much so that I think the great example of

678
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: that is how much to do to flake Gate? Got

679
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: I think if Tom Brady were the quarterback of an

680
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: eight and eight team at the time, I don't think

681
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: the flake Gate rises to the level of him getting

682
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: even suspended and all that stuff. I think that there

683
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: was just so much hatred by the public and even

684
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: the media about that team that something like that rose

685
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: to the level of how do we knock these guys down?

686
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 4: So I think the Patriots are like the counter example.

687
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: If the Bears had run off three or four championships,

688
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: there would be this like fatigue, this fatigue that we

689
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: get with winners.

690
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that, and I

691
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: think that you're right about the Brady point. And I

692
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: still think that there is Patriots fatigue now because while

693
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: everybody is different there, I don't think any of us

694
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: want to see the Patriots ever as great of a story.

695
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: I haven't suffered enough. That's I was saying, you didn't

696
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: suffer long enough.

697
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Patriots in the end zone

698
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: of a Super Bowl again, like I need, I need

699
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: five more years of not seeing that. I'll take a

700
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: Broncos logo. I'll take a Texans end zone. I'll take

701
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: a Bills one. That would be great. But I don't

702
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: want to see New England. And I still think that's

703
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: left over from that.

704
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 5: And deflate gate was further amplified by Spygate. It was like, oh,

705
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: another thing that they're cheating. Like the people they're kind

706
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 5: of conspiracy minded out there. I don't know what happened

707
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: with deflake Gate.

708
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: I don't.

709
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: I mean we know, but we you know, we don't

710
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: know everything, and people think they know everything. But like

711
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 5: Spygate leading into deflake Gate, you know years later you're like, oh, same,

712
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: up to their same old cheating tricks, the cheating Patriots.

713
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 5: So it's like, okay, people deflate the football based on

714
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: their comfort level with their you know, how to grip

715
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: it and all that stuff. Other teams do that too,

716
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 5: but we looked at it, especially under a lens of

717
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 5: other cheaters.

718
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're spot on with that. Is I have.

719
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 6: Two teams to suggest to the group. One Nobody circus

720
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 6: the Wagons, like the Buffalo Bill. Yeah, it's part of it.

721
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 6: It's so sentimental. It's the four straight Super Bowl losses.

722
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: It's thankfully Marv Levy's still alive and going strong at

723
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 6: one hundred years old this year. And it's Bill's mafia.

724
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 6: It's the jumping through tables, it's the tailgating, it's the

725
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: national way that they travel to road games. So that

726
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 6: was one team that I was going to suggest. The

727
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 6: other team, and it's kind of a different curve here

728
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 6: is the Golden State Warriors. I thought they went from

729
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 6: a universally loved feel good story when they first started

730
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 6: their dynasty, but then when they acquired Kevin Durant, they

731
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 6: kind of turned into the evil Empire and they won

732
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 6: a championship post Vin Durant, and now it's kind of

733
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 6: the Draymond Green deal. But for a while there on

734
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 6: their ascent, I think, up until they acquired Kevin Durant,

735
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 6: they were a really good feel good story.

736
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

737
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: Can I piggyback on something?

738
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching one of our TVs had Lebron

739
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: James on how about Lebron James going from the ultimate

740
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: villain super team in Miami to the feel good brought

741
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: his hometown the first championship in however many years?

742
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, beating the Warriors, and it was in the Warriors.

743
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: I it was not a Bulls fan growing up. Set

744
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: it mind the Bulls seventy two one season going down,

745
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: but I changed quickly on the Warriors. I think even

746
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: before Isaac's pointed about Kevin Durant. But I think the

747
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant switch was the game changer. And then it

748
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: allowed Lebron and the Cavs actually some grace because they

749
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: won a title. And whether you if you didn't like Lebron,

750
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: you probably weren't gonna like the Caves no matter what

751
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: he did. But I do agree with Aaron that it

752
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: put him in more of a friendlier light, and then

753
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: if Golden State's the one that acquires Durant, then the

754
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: Calves aren't the villain with Lebron anymore. And yeah, I

755
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: think I think Calv's got some mileage out of Isaac's

756
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: point about the Warriors.

757
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: It also allowed Lebron to leave Cleveland without being the

758
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: villain of Well, you're not gonna beat the Warriors. So

759
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you came here, you want us a title.

760
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 3: It's clearly not gonna happen going forward.

761
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: So it's interesting. I'm gonna I'm gonna make a statement here,

762
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: and I'm really curious about Jason's thoughts on this. I

763
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: think sho Hey Otani is preventing the Dodgers from becoming

764
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: that hated team. I think that they're the now back

765
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: to back titles right now. But I think what Otani

766
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: does is so amazing and everybody is so captivated by

767
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: it that it puts a little bit of a buffer

768
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: of what I think most baseball fans would look at

769
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: and say, all right, well they want it again, spent

770
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: all this money, everybody signs with them, and this I

771
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: think that Otani's greatness in a way prevents people from

772
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: maybe being anti Dodgers or start to become anti Dodgers.

773
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 3: Food for thought before Jay stut jumpson, if they had

774
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: the best turn in baseball named sho Hey Otani and

775
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: a different person who was essentially the best pitcher in

776
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: baseball from Japan named Uh. I don't want to yeah, yeah, yeah,

777
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to start stereotyping Japanese nation.

778
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: Let's say say that.

779
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Let's say they were two equivalent players of show Hay

780
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: at the bat, but they were different people. I do

781
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: think that's an interesting point of people. Well, they're just

782
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: buying all the best players from Japan. Here we go,

783
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: even though Yamamoto basically turned into that in the playoffs

784
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: this year.

785
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying that if Otani wasn't the

786
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: two way star and it was two different people, would

787
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: we feel the same way? No, I think that we would.

788
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: They then would be unlikable.

789
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: Maybe I come at this from a much different perspective

790
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: because I am a Dodgers fan and I have seen

791
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: the hate that I get on Twitter for the Dodgers.

792
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: That's for you.

793
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: I think I think they are hated now. I think

794
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: there could be a U There could be somewhere in between.

795
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: Which is always uninteresting. And I know, but I don't

796
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: think they're beloved. I really don't. I don't think they're

797
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 4: love anyone outside of LA and I don't think they're hated.

798
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: Not yet.

799
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: Maybe another championship and maybe show Hayes the reason they're

800
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 4: in the middle.

801
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: How would you compare their perception to the early two

802
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 6: thousand Yankees.

803
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: So I've had this this conversation on my show with

804
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: Jason Martin, who's a Braves fan, and I said to him,

805
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: I said, I don't feel like people hate the Dodgers

806
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: like they hated the nineties two thousands Yankees, and he agreed.

807
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: I was gonna say too, I wonder if the way

808
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: this World Series played out, where first of all, you

809
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: follow the team on a day to day basis, but

810
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: nobody was talking about them as this unstoppable force. During

811
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: the regular season. All I heard was how terrible the

812
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: bullpen was, was gonna catch up with them? But also

813
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: Toronto was up three to two in that World Series.

814
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: Clearly you know what I was on air during Game seven.

815
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't remember all the lead changes, but Toronto had

816
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: two or three chances to seal that game. And I

817
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: think if like the Dodgers had swem this World Series

818
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: is that different than a gain than a World Series

819
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: where the Blue Jays were not only their equals, but

820
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: there were times where you felt like they were actually

821
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: probably will and should win.

822
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: The World Series. That may have been a factor, But

823
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't think that we've had enough time like to

824
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: look at it because we've been removed from baseball, like

825
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: in this upcoming baseball season is maybe more of a

826
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: look at it. But I would say during the season

827
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: you said that there were things with the Dodgers that

828
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: were red flags, So maybe we weren't talking about it,

829
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: but I think throughout the playoffs, and maybe I'm coming

830
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: from this as a Brewers fan who got swept by

831
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and to your point, but it does seem

832
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: when we were talking about the Dodgers, the phrase that

833
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: I heard was, I know they're good, but they're just likable.

834
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, Freddy freeman'sige, Oh so is Aaron Judge,

835
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: Like Aaron Judge is a likable player for the Yankees,

836
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Like there are very few unlikable players in Major League

837
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: Baseball that our stars are superstars. So I think it's

838
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Otani's greatness and just how rare he is that, as

839
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: they said, provides the buffer from a true hate for

840
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: the Dodgers that spend a lot of money and have

841
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: advantages that people think more advantages over their team or

842
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: other teams in baseball. There, and that's Iowa.

843
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: Sam very good.

844
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: I think also they had broken a long pennant drought

845
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, and then they went up against the Astros,

846
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 5: who we all know cheated, so maybe that bought them

847
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 5: a little bit of like they're the aggrieved Dodgers, and

848
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: they would have went on to lose another World Series

849
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 5: after that point.

850
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: But I also think that people will rush to say

851
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: that their twenty twenty title was a joke.

852
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: I think people also look at it is like, go

853
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 5: ahead and keep that twenty twenty because it was weird.

854
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 5: And then like when they finally won like one without COVID,

855
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 5: without a cheating scandal, it was back to back, and

856
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: now maybe they win a third one back to back

857
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 5: to back. It might they might start to wear out people.

858
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: We shall see in twenty twenty six. And that's the Midway.

859
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: The Midwell, by the way, the five states that, according

860
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: to the guests, ask you am met online that are

861
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: cheering for Miami Florida obviously ore agaon maybe because of

862
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: the loss, and maybe who knows, Crystal Ball ties North Carolina,

863
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: South Carolina and Kentucky. Otherwise, everybody else apparently is pro

864
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Indiana for that National championship games.

865
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: In Kentucky, the Indiana border state that is a rival

866
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: in Indiana in some ways.

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Speaker 2: He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Truer words were never spoken. He's Erintorres. I'm Dan Byer, Iowa, Sam,

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, Isaac Low and Cron hanging out. Isaac's gonna

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Speaker 2: be with us in about ten minutes or so to

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Speaker 2: give us an update of what's happening on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: A big happening when it comes to the NFL drafting

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Speaker 2: college football, but we switch our attention to the NBA

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Speaker 2: joining us now, Good buddy, our Fox Sports Radio NBA

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Speaker 2: insider Mark Medina joins us here on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: for the first time in twenty twenty six. Mark, Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year.

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Speaker 7: How are you happy? New year, Dan, we'll break the

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Speaker 7: Larry David rule. All good and happy for you. You're

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Speaker 7: killing all the shows.

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Speaker 2: No, well, I appreciate that Aaron and I are having

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Speaker 2: a good time, and yeah we're two weeks in. But

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Speaker 2: it's the first time I've spoken with Mark. Question. Everyone

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Speaker 2: wants to know, are you in on crypto or was

888
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Speaker 2: your exacked? That's what people want to know.

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Speaker 7: What's the it has been the ladder. I did not

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Speaker 7: cash out some crazy investment or bought some amazing car.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, for anyone else who can help me out,

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Speaker 7: I'm still trying to get the sort out so I

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Speaker 7: can tweet about basketball and not fake post.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was quite the quite the flex, you know,

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Speaker 2: first and escalate and then a look at your financial portfolio.

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Speaker 2: But it was very Unmadina like considering all the NBA

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Speaker 2: posts that were.

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Speaker 7: Made, so mart Mann, that's why I have strong instincts.

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Speaker 2: No, well, let's talk about what happened last night in

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Speaker 2: the Association, because Oklahoma City finally got the monkey off

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Speaker 2: their back, if you will, in beating the San Antonio Spurs.

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Speaker 2: Was it just another game? Was it more for Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City last night? What were your thoughts on the Thunder win.

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Speaker 7: No, not just another game. I think that this is

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Speaker 7: It's not going to be Lakers Celtics, but I think

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Speaker 7: that this is the next rivalry of the NBA. You

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Speaker 7: can tell that both teams don't like each other, especially

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Speaker 7: the Victor Wambanyama chet Hongering dynamic. But what does it

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Speaker 7: mean for the NBA playoffs? That is where I'm on shore,

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Speaker 7: because even though the Spurs, with exceptional last night, have

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Speaker 7: had their number in head to head matchups, I still

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Speaker 7: favored a Thunder in a playoff series, barring major injuries,

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Speaker 7: just because of the old adage of the been there before,

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Speaker 7: the continuity. There's not much of any hangover from the

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Speaker 7: championship last season. But the Spurs have shown they're the

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Speaker 7: real deal. Not only are they making the playoffs, it's

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Speaker 7: not just oh they're a young team on the rise.

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Speaker 7: They are here. It's Victor webber Yama. They got the

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Speaker 7: Spurs culture, they got this great dynamic backcourt, and the

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Speaker 7: Aaron Fox and Stefan Castle and so and then they

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Speaker 7: know how to coexist pretty well. So they are well

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Speaker 7: a machine. But if I had to predict seven game series,

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Speaker 7: it would go to the Thunderbut That's why it's going

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Speaker 7: to be compelling, assuming they match up.

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Speaker 3: So, Mark, I don't know if you were, you know,

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Speaker 3: been around the Lakers. I know you you are always

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Speaker 3: around the Lakers, I should say, so this story about

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Speaker 3: Lebron having to address something that Rich Paul said, I'll

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Speaker 3: just be honest. So I'm sure you have a relationship

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Speaker 3: with Rich Paul. I'm not trying to back you into

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Speaker 3: a corner. I don't really understand what the upside to

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Speaker 3: Rich Paul having a podcast is always going to do

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Speaker 3: is make people mad or not say anything. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: help his clients, it doesn't help him. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you have anything to really add to that situation,

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Speaker 3: but it feels weird that Lebron now has to address

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Speaker 3: things that his agent is saying publicly on a podcast.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's a fair question. And Aaron, I'm not

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Speaker 7: backed into a corner. I have relationships in the NBA,

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Speaker 7: but I have a job to do. And I don't

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Speaker 7: think that, even with the caveat, that every adult has

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Speaker 7: the right to pursue whatever business venture through the NBA. Lane,

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Speaker 7: I don't think that this is a good look for

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Speaker 7: Rich because perceived or real or a mix of both.

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Speaker 7: What he says is always going to be looked at.

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Speaker 7: This is a reflection of what Lebron James wants, even

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Speaker 7: though Lebron was very clear in the interview with ESPN

948
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Speaker 7: that that's not what he thinks. I think the other

949
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Speaker 7: thing is just it reeks of being Monday morning quarterback

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Speaker 7: and trying to be very influential on what teams should do.

951
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Speaker 7: And this isn't you know, someone like you and me

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Speaker 7: talking about what teams should do. We don't have any

953
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Speaker 7: roll or direct stake. This is an agent that can

954
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Speaker 7: have some sort of leverage. So yeah, it doesn't sit

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Speaker 7: well with people in the Lakers organization, and certainly shouldn't

956
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Speaker 7: sit well with you know, Austin Reeves's agent or anyone

957
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Speaker 7: else because you're just thinking the quiet parts out loud.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's almost the equivalent of when you know,

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Speaker 7: in laws insert themselves into private conversations or things with

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Speaker 7: your partner that shouldn't involve them. They have every right

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Speaker 7: to do it, but it's something they shouldn't do. So

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Speaker 7: that's my analysis on it.

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Another

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Speaker 2: story that caught a lot of people's eye was kind

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Speaker 2: of the I guess back and forth maybe the way

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Speaker 2: to put about it on what was happening with Anthony

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Speaker 2: Davis in his hand situation. You know, the report that

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Speaker 2: came out that said he was likely done for the season,

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Speaker 2: Davis refutes it. Then there's a second opinion. There's also

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Speaker 2: a trade deadline coming up in less than a month.

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Speaker 2: So where are we on Anthony Davis in what is

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Speaker 2: happening with the Mavericks? Big Man?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think what Ad was saying is technically

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Speaker 7: true by the letter of the law, that he's not

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Speaker 7: ruled out necessarily for the rest of this season technically,

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Speaker 7: But guys, let's just be real. You read it the

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Speaker 7: right of the wall, Anthony Davis's injury history. Where the

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Speaker 7: Mavericks are, you know, in this current standings uncertainty if

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Speaker 7: or when Kyrie Irving is even back. I don't think

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Speaker 7: that they formally decided that, nor have you know they've

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Speaker 7: made a medical diagnosis with doctors, but you connect the dots,

982
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Speaker 7: it seems like that's going to be the foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 7: But you know, until we get to that point, it's

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Speaker 7: not official. But I wouldn't be surprised. I would be

985
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Speaker 7: surprised if we see a d play in another basketball

986
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Speaker 7: game this season because of the injury history as well.

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Speaker 7: It's just the fact that it seems like this is

988
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Speaker 7: a lost season for Dallas outside of just seeing Cooper

989
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Speaker 7: flag contained a blossom of a great rookie.

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Speaker 3: So, Mark, I was on air on my Saturday show

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Speaker 3: the night that the Knicks were eliminated last year by

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers, and you know, we were one of

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Speaker 3: the first just shows to have and we might have

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Speaker 3: had you on that night, I can't remember, but the

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Speaker 3: conversation about at the time Tom Thibodeau and I just

996
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Speaker 3: bring it up because Nick's obviously sitting in second place

997
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Speaker 3: in the East. Do you believe that Mike Brown can

998
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Speaker 3: elevate them to that level that Tom Thibodeau couldn't or

999
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: is this just kind of a veteran team that's having

1000
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Speaker 3: success very similarly to the way that they have in

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Speaker 3: previous regular seasons the last couple of years.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, really good question, Aaron. I think that both things

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Speaker 7: can be true, but I think proportionally it's more of

1004
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Speaker 7: the fact that the Knicks have a really good roster

1005
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Speaker 7: and they've retained that and obviously starts with Jalen Brunson,

1006
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Speaker 7: but it also extends to Karl Anthony Towns being a

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Speaker 7: more complete player, eliminating a little bit some of his fouls.

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Speaker 7: But they also have just really great role players o

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Speaker 7: Giananobia Mikal Bridges is more consistent. Josh Hart, I do

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00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: think that Mike Brown's coaching has made a difference, specifically

1011
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Speaker 7: with the amount of pace that they play at. That's

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Speaker 7: a lot more than Tom Thibodeau did with the same

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00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 7: personnel last season. But I think both are great head coaches,

1014
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Speaker 7: are very well prepared, They know how to motivate players,

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Speaker 7: They had their respect. You know. They're both defensive gurus,

1016
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Speaker 7: but where I think Mike Brown has the edge over

1017
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Speaker 7: Thibodeau is on the offensive end. Ironically, at the beginning

1018
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Speaker 7: of Mike Brown's career, he wasn't known as an offensive guru,

1019
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 7: but he's innovated. He's been with the Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 7: as a key assistant under Steve Kerr. When he was

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Speaker 7: with the Kings, he got them moving at a very

1022
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Speaker 7: fast paced and I think that's carried over to the Knicks.

1023
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Speaker 7: But it always starts with talent. I think with the Knicks, specifically,

1024
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Speaker 7: the fact that they have the same core has made

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Speaker 7: a big difference that has allowed them to be a

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Speaker 7: real true contender.

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Speaker 2: In these all right, last one for me, Mark Mediina

1028
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Speaker 2: joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, and I just

1029
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Speaker 2: want to ask Jason Stewart. Jason, you have called, I

1030
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Speaker 2: believe the Washington Wizards the most irrelevant franchise in sports.

1031
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Speaker 2: He's nodding his head, yes. All right, So, for the

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Speaker 2: first time in about four years of sports talk radio,

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Speaker 2: I have a Washington Wizards question. How high could Trey

1034
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Speaker 2: Young take the Washington Wizards?

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Speaker 7: You know what, don't roll your eyes, but I can't

1036
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Speaker 7: think they can take them to the playoffs next season.

1037
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Speaker 7: And I'm I'm with Jason one hundred percent. Like they're

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Speaker 7: known as irrelevant. There's always been a running joke that

1039
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 7: me and some other media members have that the Washington

1040
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 7: Wizards historically have only existed solely so that every NBA

1041
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 7: team can have an eighty two game schedule. But here,

1042
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 7: shut me out, guys, Trey Young's on low risk here.

1043
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 7: They got him, you know, for a pretty good deal,

1044
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Speaker 7: only not only giving up CJ. McCollum and a first

1045
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Speaker 7: round pick and a role player because the market was depressed.

1046
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Speaker 7: They are aren't good right now, but they're going to

1047
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Speaker 7: protect their number eight pick. Trey Young might come back,

1048
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Speaker 7: but it's not going to be enough to affect the

1049
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Speaker 7: winning record. And when you look at this young core,

1050
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Speaker 7: Alex Sar, Trey Johnson, b lal Cole Bally, Keyshawn George,

1051
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 7: they're all pretty good individual pieces that if you combine

1052
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 7: them with someone like Trey Young, they could be a

1053
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Speaker 7: playoff team. And I think that they will. Also keep

1054
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 7: in mind, this isn't a functional front office anymore. Travis

1055
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 7: Schlank he used to be with the Hawks. He's the

1056
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Speaker 7: one that tore them down and built around Trey Young.

1057
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Speaker 7: He has a pedigree. He used to be at the

1058
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Speaker 7: Warriors front office. Michael Winger, he used to be with

1059
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Speaker 7: the Clippers with assembly in their roster. Now, you know,

1060
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Speaker 7: that's a whole other convo about Kawhi and Paul George.

1061
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 7: But from a talent acquisition standpoint, did a good job.

1062
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Speaker 7: He has background in OKC. So what I'm getting at, guys,

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Speaker 7: both things can be true current president time. The Wizards

1064
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 7: are relevant. They're a bad team, but I think that

1065
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Speaker 7: they truly are hey in the right direction because of

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Speaker 7: all the things I outline.

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Speaker 2: They have not been above five hundred since the twenty

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Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty eighteen season. They have not been above

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Speaker 2: four hundred since the twenty twenty two twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: So that's why we can hang a banner the first

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Speaker 2: time we've asked the Wizards question in four years on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Hey, good luck with the escalade, Mark,

1073
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: you know and the crypto. H No, we're kidding again.

1074
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 2: Mark Medina's X account has been hacked. If you can

1075
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: help him out by any way, please do so. Mark.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you in all seriousness report it on X. I'm

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Speaker 7: sure the more the merrier will get this all results

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Speaker 7: though it right, bastball Gun, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna do it right now.

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Speaker 2: R G underscore Medina. Everybody was wondering, Wow, Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty brashed with the crypto obviously hacked. Thanks Mark,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you against you man.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, guys your best.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get the Isay glowing crown at the

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Speaker 2: news desk for the least of what's happening on this Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: What's going on, Isaac?

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Speaker 6: There's a guy out there named David Kavucci, who puts

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Speaker 6: out a newsletter reporting on interesting information from college sports

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Speaker 6: that he gets from making Freedom of Information Act requests.

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Speaker 6: While today he reported on various travel expenses that Big

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Speaker 6: Ten universities spent for Big Ten Football Media Day in

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Speaker 6: Las Vegas this past summer, including this, the Nebraska contingent

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Speaker 6: had six hundred dollars worth of smash Burgers door dashed

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Speaker 6: directly to their private jet on their way out.

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Speaker 3: Of town for the flight home back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Ahh, that's one rule I'd like to follow.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: How about that little matt rule allowing the smash burgers

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Speaker 2: within the budget on the private jet. Weren't there some

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Speaker 2: schools like was it with basketball that didn't even bring

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Speaker 2: players or no, it was it was media members. Some

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Speaker 2: schools didn't even have media members go to Media Day

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Speaker 2: because of the travel. I think Penn State was one

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Speaker 2: of the schools. And you're like, at the time, we

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Speaker 2: think of Penn State national championship contender, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think they sent some guys to Las Vegas because of

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Speaker 2: the cost.

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Speaker 3: There was complaint about the how far away it is.

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Speaker 3: Except Vegas, you could probably get the cheapest hotel room

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Speaker 3: anywhere in the country of a major city, neither here

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Speaker 3: nor there, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: All I was Sam, I was just gonna bring up recently,

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Speaker 5: Isaac talked about Texas Longhorns balloon budget and you know

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Speaker 5: some places can't even send an assistant coach to media

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Speaker 5: days and the balloon budget.

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Speaker 3: What was it again, Isaac? It was right now, but

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Speaker 3: it was unbelievably it was like budget.

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Speaker 6: It was like over one hundred thousand dollars for the

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Speaker 6: athletic department for the whole year, just for.

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Speaker 3: The balloons and helium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but those numbers could be inflated.