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Speaker 1: Good morning, Swirl and welcome to the No Dunks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, August twenty ninth, twenty

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Speaker 1: and filling in for JD today, promising to make the

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Speaker 1: five star rating and review. Yeah, we're still in the

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Speaker 1: dog days of the NBA summer, but we've got some

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Speaker 1: fun topics to throw some thumbs on. But before that,

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Speaker 1: tasted a podcast earlier this week with our guy Joel,

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Speaker 1: who is here in Atlanta all the way from Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: He was in studio talking to tasks about Joel's recent

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Speaker 1: trip to the Oakland Coliseum. You guys discuss the most

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Speaker 1: impressive MLB feats this season, like Aaron Judges, Homers Otani

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Speaker 1: joining the forty to forty club, the hilariously bad Chicago

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Speaker 1: White Sox didn't realize they never win a game. That

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Speaker 1: was news to me. But that's No Bunts. That's up

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Speaker 1: in the No Dunks feed, It's on YouTube, it's obviously

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Speaker 1: in your podcast feed. Task good time catching up with

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Speaker 1: Joel talking a little baseball.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Joel is a lot of fun to talk to

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Speaker 3: in person, reaching over and adjusting his mic right in

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Speaker 3: front of him. I don't know if you guys saw

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Speaker 3: the dog for the Dodgers throw out the first pitch

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Speaker 3: air quotes first pitch he ran Shoho Tani's dog ran

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Speaker 3: it from the mound to the plate.

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Speaker 4: Yep, too bad. We didn't have a chance to talk

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Speaker 4: about that. But it was fun.

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Speaker 1: They were doing like a bubblehead too right with him

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Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a gold O Tani bubblehead with his dog.

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Speaker 1: And it's like I saw like the lineup for the

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Speaker 1: was long. People love a bubblehead still, Isn't that weird?

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Speaker 5: Not like past peak bobblehead. But they're innovating. It's not

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Speaker 5: just bobbleheads these days. You can get a bobble arm.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't do anything. Yeah, like our buddy Grish,

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Speaker 1: My buddy gris, your buddy Grish, everybody's Buddy Grish. He

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Speaker 1: like gets all hyped for like the outcast bobbleheads here

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Speaker 1: at the Braves games, and like I know when he

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Speaker 1: goes like you know, attendant shoots up. People want these

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Speaker 1: things tasks. These are like, yeah, you can maybe sell

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought about going strictly for that. See they

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Speaker 1: Just do it again, do it again. The cell still

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Speaker 1: has something to say. Uh alright, So go check out

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Speaker 1: no Bunts task and Joel taking a little baseball. But

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Speaker 1: we are here on No Dunks today to talk about basketball,

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Speaker 1: and let's do it in the Updown Report. Six Yeah,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Scrillicks. The up Down Report thumbs up,

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Speaker 1: thumbs down on a bunch of topics. That's all we're

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Speaker 1: doing today. We got like eight or nine topics here

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Speaker 1: maybe the most insane NBA beef in a long time.

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Speaker 1: In an interview with The Wall Street Journal released last week,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards shared some opinions about the generations of players

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Speaker 1: before he was born. Okay, the money quote, the quote

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Speaker 1: They say it was tougher back then than it is now,

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Speaker 1: you here up or down on what we were calling

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Speaker 1: the skill beef between Anthony Edwards and then the OG's

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Speaker 1: the legends, most notably Magic and Isaiah Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Upper down on this, Well, I'm up because we get

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Speaker 3: this conversation. This is leading our show. There's a reason

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards got the biggest jump in national TV games

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Speaker 4: Talk and stand up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, But I am down on the statements.

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Speaker 3: Anthony edwards first comment when he was asked about older generations, well,

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch it back in the day, so I

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Speaker 4: And then he spoke on it immediately after.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, he was born in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: so he hasn't watched all of those players, then he

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Speaker 3: pinpoints one specific guy and one ability. Michael Jordan was

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Speaker 3: the only one that had skill. He obviously didn't watch match,

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Speaker 3: didn't watch Isaiah Thomas, and he didn't watch Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: all that much. To get the full story, you gotta

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Speaker 3: watch the entire game. And I know every conversation is

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Speaker 3: just about one particular thing you hate or you like.

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Speaker 4: It's not nuanced.

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Speaker 3: That's why people should listen and watch the No Dunk

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Speaker 3: because we watch every game. I mean, did you hear

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Speaker 3: what Rashid Wallace said recently in a podcast. It's the

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Speaker 3: same thing to me. Rashid Wallace a great defender, a

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Speaker 3: fantastic defender in the NBA. He said, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan wasn't all that good of a defender. I

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Speaker 3: saw him get burned all the time. Yeah, Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: got burned every clip that you watch. You watch Alan

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Speaker 3: Iverson do the crossover on him. Sure, a guy is

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Speaker 3: going to go buy a guy on a defensive play,

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Speaker 3: because that's basketball. It happens sometimes. But to get the

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Speaker 3: full picture, you gotta watch the whole game. And Isaiah

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Speaker 4: They were skilled.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are pissed off.

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Speaker 3: There are good players. There are a lot of good

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Speaker 3: like air fighting nobody when he gets into it, because

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Speaker 3: he starts conversing comments about other things that have nothing

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Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards said.

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Speaker 3: But Anthony Edwards wasn't all that grounded in his statement either,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know it's leading the show. It's fun

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so your thumbs up for creating content for us

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Speaker 1: here in the summer, but your thumb's down because it's

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Speaker 1: an insane statement from Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 2: Basically, well, come on, yeah, there's nobody else skilled.

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Speaker 1: TK your thoughts on the skill beef.

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Speaker 5: The only guy that's skilled is the guy that I

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Speaker 5: play exactly like.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 5: That hilarious task nailed all the best parts, like him

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Speaker 5: coming out, Anthony Edwards coming out and saying this means

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Speaker 5: that suddenly I got Ralph Samson clips coming through on

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Speaker 1: Oh we didn't have skills back then. Watch Ralph Samson

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Speaker 5: And then he really touched a nerve because Magic Johnson

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Speaker 5: of basketball players. He's always super positive. But Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: Have you anything in your life? Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Garnett went in as well, him and Paul Pierce

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Speaker 5: talking for about nine minutes about this. At one point,

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Speaker 5: Paul Pierce is like, he must be talking about guys

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Speaker 5: from the sixties. Couldn't believe it that it would be

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Speaker 5: guys from the two thousands that he was talking about.

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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan d battled, You know, Michael Jordan's at seventy

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Speaker 5: five plus years old. But obviously players these days are

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Speaker 5: more skilled. But there was obviously skills back in the

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Speaker 1: It's just the.

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Speaker 5: Way the game has been officiated. The physicality has changed

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Speaker 5: so different. Skills are more important now than they were then.

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Speaker 5: Postplay was more important in the nineties and two thousands.

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Speaker 5: The mid range game was more important in the nineties

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Speaker 5: That's a skill. Rip Hamilton had it. Does anybody in

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Speaker 1: Harkley at all?

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Speaker 5: But that was something that was important back then. So

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Speaker 5: the game has evolved. Anthony Edwards is right, there's more

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Speaker 5: surely that's the case. But at the top of level,

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Speaker 1: Yep, well said by both of you here. I did

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Speaker 1: love that part that task brought up where he says

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Speaker 1: can't speak on it, and then speaks on it. I

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Speaker 1: also then love Magic saying I'm not responding to players

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Speaker 1: who don't win championships, but then responds to players like

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards that didn't win championship. This is just a wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Chef's kiss summer content here of Anthony Edwards saying a

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Speaker 1: very weird thing, Like it's one like Magic Johnson and

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Speaker 1: be like, maybe he wasn't the most athletic guy in

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Speaker 1: he didn't have the athleticism about Michael George. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: starting five Netflix series that is gonna feature Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: as one of the guys, right, what is it? Lebron Tatum,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards some bonus and who's the fifth Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: Butler thank you, Oh my God. Like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that series is gonna be good, but you know

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Speaker 1: said either from Anthony Edwards. Lebron obviously is always a

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Speaker 3: It's all good for a few reasons. First, you learn

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Speaker 1: This one's fun. Goran Dragic he bid farewell to basketball

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Speaker 1: It was called the Night of the Dragon. Oh so good.

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Speaker 1: Great name. I thought, very cool The Night of the Dragon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing soccer out there. At some point Rasso

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Speaker 1: All of us. This was awesome though, Like it's pretty

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Speaker 1: a child. But they were having so much fun and

435
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Speaker 1: like that's a cool way. I would love to see

436
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: more of these, like for legends, you know, like that

437
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: that go away from the game or retire from the game,

438
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: like you know, either here Stateside or obviously in the

439
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: other countries. It was awesome. Boban Marioanovich splashing threes was

440
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts. He hit a couple like

441
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 1: some deep bombs the Giant. So go check the highlights out.

442
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty fun, like they're having the time of

443
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: their life. So all good, all right, next one. Jason

444
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: Tatum now has a permanent reminder of his record breaking

445
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three All Star Game performance that earned him

446
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 1: the Kobe Bryant and VP Award of that game. Tatum

447
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: shared an image of a new tattoo featuring the trophy

448
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: on his Snapchat story. I didn't know snapchat was still around,

449
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: but anyway, you know, someone some Celtics fan grabbed the

450
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: screen grab. There you're seeing it on YouTube here for everyone,

451
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: and we've got the split screen of him actually holding

452
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: that that Kobe trophy, which I totally forgot was a trophy.

453
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: Quite press but upper down tk on on Tatum's new

454
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Speaker 1: All Star Game MVP inc.

455
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Speaker 5: I think I'm up on this. It's weird to get

456
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 5: an All Star Game MVP tattoo, I'll say any And

457
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 5: it took me a long time to figure out where

458
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 5: on his body this tattoo actually is. Apparently the inner

459
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 5: side of his left knee, you know, not a place

460
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 5: of prominence, but I think that's a perfect place for

461
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: an All Star Game MVP. Significant accomplishment, no doubt about it,

462
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 5: but the biggest accomplishment in the NBA. No, he does

463
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 5: have a space on the back right of his back

464
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: that apparently is being saved for a Lario O'Brian trophy.

465
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 5: It's you know, the bottom, the bottom right quadrant of

466
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: his back. It's ready to lock one in there. I

467
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 5: think he should get it, But maybe he's got something

468
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 5: bigger and more elaborate plan that's gonna take a longer

469
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 5: time than he had returning from Paris and getting his

470
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Speaker 5: tattoo or whatever.

471
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum's got a lot of tattoos. He's got a

473
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Speaker 5: lot of tattoos specifically of himself, Like his own portrait

474
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 5: is on his body at least three different times, not

475
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 5: to mention different jerseys he's worn throughout his career. So

476
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 5: I assume he'll add the Lario B at some point,

477
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Speaker 5: So for now, I'm okay with the All Star Game MVP.

478
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Speaker 5: Though when I saw the headline, I was like, excuse me,

479
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 5: And then I was like that too.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that is so corny, like what are

481
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: you talking about? But then you're like you're reminded of

482
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Speaker 1: like Kobe being his like idol and and you know

483
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Speaker 1: it is the trophy named after because I think also

484
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: like maybe you couldn't see it there, like there is

485
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: like a twenty four right for Kobe, like in the

486
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: mamba sort of snake sort of pattern. So it's a

487
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 1: little makes a little bit more sense seeing it's like

488
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: his favorite player ever. But tasks are your thumb uper

489
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: thumbs down on this well.

490
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Speaker 3: After Trace said it was on his inner leg, I

491
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: had to go back and look at the photo that

492
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Speaker 3: I was evaluating today because I saw it on iminger

493
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Speaker 3: i am g u r as a website, and I

494
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Speaker 3: thought it was on the outside part of his thigh

495
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: because it is. It is upper leg, for sure, all

496
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: the hair is shaven, it's all cleared up for the

497
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: tattoo to go on. Yeah, it's hard to help if

498
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: it's the inside or outside of the thigh. It's a

499
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: thigh shot, that's for sure. But I'm I'm up on

500
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: it because it is named after Kobe. He revealed it

501
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: on Kobe's birthday on on Snapchat on August twenty third,

502
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: And it was back in twenty twenty three when he

503
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: won this thing and he said, quote, my first All

504
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 3: Star Game was in Chicago in twenty twenty when they

505
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: renamed the MVP after him, And I remember telling myself

506
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: that someday I got to get one of those.

507
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: And I got it.

508
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: And it took him a year and a half to

509
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 3: put it on as a tattoo.

510
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: And then people will.

511
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 3: Say, well, are you just getting that because he didn't

512
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: win the finals MVP months ago? In a weird comment.

513
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: I guess that's what's happening. But it's fine, it's fine,

514
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: and he will he will. When does the Larry O'Brian

515
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: Trophy get put on his Yeah? Yeah, because he did

516
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: just win one. Yeah, he's just waiting.

517
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he's confident they're going back to back. Maybe wait,

518
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: when's Larry O'Brian's birthday. I guess that's when he'll probably

519
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: announce it. I don't know. I forgot Kobe's birthday was

520
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: on the twenty third, and then obviously eight twenty four

521
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: is like Kobe Day, Mamba Day, I guess, right, because

522
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: of his two numbers. But yeah, you know this is

523
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: also like Tatum right now, weird summer for this guy

524
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: wins a championship, but somehow it was like QR rating

525
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: literally plummeted because of not playing some of the games

526
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: or not getting like prominently displayed for Tea USA. And

527
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: then he does this and people already have an opinion

528
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: about him. They think he's corny already, so they just

529
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: now he's just doubling down on that. But look, it's

530
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: I at least can tell what it is. I like that.

531
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: You see it, You're like, oh, yeah, that's that's the

532
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: MVP trophy from the All Star Game. So good job

533
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: by the tattoo artists, I guess. But yeah, I didn't

534
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: know he had three tattoos of himself on it.

535
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 5: I think I was going through, you know, some random

536
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: website that was decoding Jalen or Jason Tatum's eight tattoos

537
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 5: and it must have been old, because I think he

538
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: has way more than eight at this point.

539
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you got it. They got assume there's a

540
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: duce on him somewhere. There's a dude but his son.

541
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's a there's a Jason holding deuce for sure.

542
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: He's one of them. Yeah great, yeah, good, good, good good.

543
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: I had forgotten that Tatum scored fifty five points in

544
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. That's a record. I assume, right,

545
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: it's a record. He beat Anthony Davis, who I think

546
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: had it. Yeah, yeah, fifty five. Well, a lot of

547
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: defense being played in the All Star Game. Okay, next

548
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: one here, speaking of All Star According to the Athletics

549
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: Mike Vorkanoff, the NBA has filed trademark application requests with

550
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the USPTO for several twenty twenty five All Star Game

551
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: logos for the game coming up in San Francisco. We

552
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: are showing them to you here on YouTube, So podcast

553
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: listeners go check this out. Come over to the nodug's

554
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: YouTube page. Lots of cable cars, lots of lots of bridges.

555
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: But TK, are you up or down on some of

556
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: these you know, filed trademarks logos here.

557
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a three quarters up here, skeets,

558
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 5: because I like all of the logos that are not

559
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: the main logo. Starting in twenty eighteen, we got into

560
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 5: kind of like the banner template where it says h

561
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 5: NBA logo, NBA All Star the year, and then the

562
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: little horizontal name mark, which is pretty boring, especially when

563
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: you consider the previous designs that we had dating back

564
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: to the original All Star games, where they looked awesome,

565
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 5: Like they put a beer star for the one in

566
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: Milwaukee in the seventies. That looks cool. You got a

567
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 5: pepper for San Antonio, like things that are self identified

568
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 5: with the city. Doesn't look like you're just designing a

569
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 5: whole bunch of them at the same time that you

570
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 5: can use whenever it's time, which.

571
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: Is why the other three logos look pretty cool to me.

572
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 5: The two circle ones, you got the one with the

573
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 5: cable car, you got the bridge, and then you have

574
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 5: the star, which I think is awesome. That's like the

575
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: secondary logo they use for all of them, and all

576
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: of those have been pretty cool. So I like the

577
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: three that are like more San Francisco themed, and then

578
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 5: we got the boring one, which just looks like a

579
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: YouTube TV advertisement to me, you know, And that's what

580
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 5: the NBA Finals one looks like now as well, just

581
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: a little bit a little bland. But the other ones

582
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: that show the local flavor I think are pretty good.

583
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, which maybe hopefully find their way to like T

584
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: shirts and merch and stuff definitely could buy when you're

585
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: at the Ulstar game in twenty five tasks, what do

586
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: you think of those?

587
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trade did a great job of analyzing how thorough

588
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 3: it is, because I usually think of all Star logos

589
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: as those main ones, the banner ones, the single once,

590
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: but if you see them all together, you start thinking

591
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: of the city, because that's exactly what they did. Putting

592
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: the train the bart, I guess it's technically was that

593
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: one a bart?

594
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

595
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: Is it that Bay Area rapid transit? I guess it

596
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: is a cable car.

597
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: It's more of like the trolley or cable car. Yeah, yeah,

598
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: the one that we were on when we did like

599
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: our full host back in the day.

600
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Speaker 4: I guess so.

601
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: But there's no cable there, so it's yeah, but it's

602
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: it almost looks like a box. It almost looks like

603
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: a penalty box or something.

604
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Back up here, let's see.

605
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: Here that on the top left. I guess it's cable car.

606
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, without that.

607
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: Definitely, I don't remember. If you look closely, you can

608
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: see task stepping off it and we did our shoot there. Yeah.

609
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: Classic.

610
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: I guess I started thinking that as a BART, a

611
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: Bay Area rapid transit, because I want to.

612
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: Ride the Bart.

613
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 3: I've never ridden it, and I just like the name

614
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: of it. So if we're there in twenty twenty five,

615
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: I'd be happy to ride it.

616
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure. I'm sure we'll be there until.

617
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. I think you were on it once, sir.

618
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: I think we took it once when we were we

619
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: went and met like Mark Spears in Oakland when we

620
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: did our show in Oakland.

621
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Speaker 5: That one night we stayed in San Francisco and our

622
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 5: show was in Oakland.

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Speaker 1: I think we took it. I think we did take.

624
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: It once, right, Yeah, I remember. I remember us on

625
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: the ground on pavement. I thought we were talking to

626
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: somebody who was on a bike who literally just said

627
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: I came off of it, and that was about it.

628
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: But I don't remember being on it. I remember him

629
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: talking about it.

630
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: And we were on pavements.

631
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were on I thought you were going to

632
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: say that time that we were in the subway in

633
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 3: New York City where we saw all those vand Hughson

634
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: shirts that.

635
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: People were leaving.

636
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: People didn't want those. That was New York City. Yeah,

637
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 1: we'll have to check. We were the I think we

638
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: were on the part once. Yeah, unless you met us

639
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: there somehow, but I know I was on it once. Hey, look,

640
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: it's not that memorable. Oh no, ye, I believe it.

641
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: It's just a subway, just a.

642
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: Subway better than the one Atlanta. Then we're here in Atlanta.

643
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely better.

644
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm jealous of a city that's got

645
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: a good part.

646
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: It's a great name, for sure. Do the bart Man.

647
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: I do like a twenty five year anniversary of the

648
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: Vince Carter dunk contest in It was in Oakland, obviously

649
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: back in the day, and I was looking to see

650
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: maybe they'll do jerseys or something that kind of referenced

651
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: that era, since that was a notable All Star weekend.

652
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Speaker 5: That was when the players wore their own jerseys. I

653
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 5: think it was the Eastern Conference wore white, and then

654
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: the Western Conference wore their road jerseys. I wonder if

655
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Speaker 5: that's a potential impetus for running it back. I doubt it,

656
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 5: but it'd be cool. We've been asking for years to

657
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: just do that, just once at least. Yeah, I mean

658
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: it would be good timing with that anniversary, But nope,

659
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 5: We'll get a generic, boring ass looking blue and red

660
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: jersey for the East and West or whatever the teams

661
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 5: are divided. What do we do anymore?

662
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: I can't you remember? Do we draft teams? Still? Are

663
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: we back to conferences? I think we're back to conferences?

664
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Speaker 1: They changed it, right, like we had no draft this

665
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: past year. Yeah, we're back to normal. We're back back

666
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: We're back to basketball. Wasn't that still We're back to

667
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: basketball and it was one of the worst. Yep, he's

668
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: all pissed, all right, next one? Uh now, this will

669
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: take a little bit of a setup here, but I'll

670
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: explain the best I can. The NBA has asked a

671
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: judge to dismiss the lawsuit filed by Warner Brothers Discovery

672
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: last month against the league that wants the court to

673
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: enforce what WBD says are matching rights that would allow

674
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Speaker 1: it to retain a package of NBA media rights in

675
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Speaker 1: its next national media deal. We've talked a lot about this.

676
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you know what I'm talking about.

677
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: At its core here Warner Brothers says it's twenty fourteen

678
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: agreement with the NBA gives it the ability to match

679
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: a third party offer, and it's attempting to enforce that

680
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: in like New York City Supreme Court for the package

681
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: that the NBA sold to Amazon earlier this year. The NBA,

682
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: in its latest legal filing is saying that Warner Brothers Discovery,

683
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking like TNT here, TBS whatever, does not actually

684
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: have the right with regard to Amazon because the matching

685
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: rights clause in its twenty fourteen deal did not give

686
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: them the right to match Amazon's offer since Amazon intends

687
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: to broadcast the NBA over the Internet on a subscription

688
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: video on demand service. So the NBA is claiming that

689
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers Discovery the rights are for only linear cable

690
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: TV distribution, and that's why we've got this going on here.

691
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: So that was again a lot, but I wanted people

692
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: to know, are you up or down? Trey on the

693
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: NBA asking a judge here to dismiss the lawsuit regarding

694
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: matching rights? Am I the judge? Am I? Am? I giving?

695
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: Is this like in Roman times? I'm giving the verdict here?

696
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: My up means it's getting tossed out. Yeah, or you

697
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: could be he's the Southern lawyer. If you want it,

698
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: we don't got ourselves the case.

699
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Speaker 5: I don't know what it means, but I think the

700
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: NBA is saying here, hey, if you want to match

701
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: a deal, you got to actually pay for the one

702
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 5: that you're trying to match. You can't match the lower one,

703
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 5: and then get the higher package, getting the linear TV

704
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 5: plus streaming package versus just the streaming package. So I

705
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: think the NBA probably has solid footing here. And my

706
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: guess is the part of the reason that it took

707
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: so long to even get a deal done in the

708
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 5: first place, it's because they had to likely dot their

709
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: eyes and cross their t's to know how this part

710
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: of the deal is going to go down in the

711
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: appearing before judges and that kind of stuff. So it

712
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 5: seems more likely than anything that the NBA and Warner

713
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 5: will come to some sort of agreement where Warner makes

714
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 5: some sort of money for being out of the picture now,

715
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: but it doesn't cost the NBA all that much. But

716
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Speaker 5: I think we're just going to be looking at NBC,

717
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: Amazon and of course ESPNAB going forward.

718
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are definitely, I think right with what you

719
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: said about the NBA, saying, hey, hey, Warner Brothers, Hey

720
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: tn T whatever. If you wanted linear distribution like television rights,

721
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: you could have matched the more expensive third party offer

722
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: from NBC, because that's basically the one we're talking about.

723
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: But they were like, oh, we don't want that one,

724
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: We want the cheaper one, the Amazon one. Hey we

725
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: got HBO Max. We can stream stuff. You know. That's

726
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: where the conflict is. TAK what do you think about this?

727
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Are you over this media rights deal entirely? Or where

728
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: do you think this ends?

729
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, what Warner comes back with and says, hey, it's

730
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: not just about linear TV with us. We air stuff

731
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: on Max. We've got to deal with Bleacher Report that

732
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: we own, so we air stuff on there along with

733
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: our apps. You can still stream it. But Amazon streaming

734
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: service is better, let's be honest, and it is more

735
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: widely distributed in the world. And what this all comes

736
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: down to is those dollar dollar bills because TNT is

737
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: matching Amazon, which is far cheaper than NBC's offer towards

738
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Speaker 3: the NBA. Amazon's has reported one point eight billion per year.

739
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: NBC's is two point five billion per year, So it

740
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: looks like Warner Brothers wants to pay seven hundred million

741
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: dollars less per year. That's what it comes down to.

742
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: And all these details that we're working out about about

743
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 3: a subscription on video demand service service and all that,

744
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: it's what the lawyers are filing to basically say, yes,

745
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: they had those matching rights. But I remember twenty thirteen

746
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 3: when this thing was signed that everything as far as

747
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: like being a subscription service was just this like it

748
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: was like an add on. It was like this one

749
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: little line at the end that ESPN will look at

750
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: internet services next year when this deal starts. So that's

751
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: how far we've come. It's just the thing has changed.

752
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: NBA watching is changing, and Warrener Brothers had an exclume

753
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: of window months and months and months and months ago

754
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: to be able to negotiate with the NBA. I was

755
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: back in March and April, and they didn't come to

756
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: a deal because NBC offered way more and Warner Brothers

757
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: just didn't want to offer that much. That's what it

758
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: comes down to. In the end, it's them dollars, and

759
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: it's I'm down on it because yeah, TNT and TBS

760
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: and our our our sister friends back in the day

761
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: when we're at NBA TV, had a lot of people

762
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: that both worked on NBA TV and these companies and

763
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Bleacher Report as well, and so yeah, it just sucks

764
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: for them that they are going to be looking for

765
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: a different job. But that is what is going to

766
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: happen here. This is just a couple months of lawyers fighting.

767
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: Really is what it's going to be down to.

768
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Speaker 1: A good summer to be an NBA lawyer. I'll tell

769
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: you that, a lot of billable hours. I feel like

770
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: this summer. We've been saying this for a while, but

771
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: where this is going to end and you said it

772
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: there tk there will be some sort of settlement between

773
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: the NBA and Warner Brothers Discovery to basically, Okay, go away,

774
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: we don't want you anymore. I'm sorry. But will that

775
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: be a payment or will that be an agreement like, okay,

776
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: you can use our highlights still for this potential inside

777
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: show that you still maybe are doing or whatever else. Right,

778
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: there'll be something that they gain out of this. I

779
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: guess gain Warner Brothers Discovery than nothing I think was

780
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: what was going to happen here. But yeah, otherwise it

781
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: just this is good for lawyers, just making bank right now.

782
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: A couple more speaking of making bank, that Segue Duke

783
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: freshman forward Cooper Flag, the projected number one pick in

784
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: the twenty five NBA Draft, has signed a deal with

785
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: New Balance. The deal, which was first reported by ESPN.

786
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: We'll make Flag one of New Balance's star athletes, will

787
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: very likely include a signature shoe down the line. Flag

788
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: joins Kawhi Leonard, Jamal Murray, Tyrese Maxi as one of

789
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: MB's NBA headliners. But task, we'll start with you here.

790
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: Up or down on Cooper Flag signing a New batviolence

791
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: shoe endorsement deal.

792
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 3: Oh I'm up, Oh I am up. For a couple

793
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: of reasons, Cooper Flag is going to be good. You

794
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: can sign him to a deal now before he becomes

795
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 3: a college player, because he's going to be that good.

796
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 3: He's a great defender, he's a good offensive player. Yeah,

797
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: be period. He's just gonna be good. So all this

798
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: hype about a number one pick is going to be fulfilled.

799
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 3: This guy is just going to be great. So we're

800
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: gonna have a very different NBA Draft in twenty twenty

801
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 3: five than we did in twenty twenty with four where

802
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: it was pretty quiet. But this guy is obviously going

803
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: to be good and New Balance is cool. I know

804
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: it sounds really weird to say that for me, and

805
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: it was a different world for New Bounce for a

806
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: long time. But you mentioned some of those names that

807
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: NBA players have signed along with New Bounce. Those NBA

808
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: players you mentioned like Kawajabole, Murray Tyers, Maxie, It goes

809
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: on and on, Zach Levine, de Jonte Murray, Darius Garland,

810
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: Cameron Brink of the Los Angeles Sparks.

811
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: It goes on. It's just cool.

812
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: I went to the website and looked at New Balance

813
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: basketball shoes and they look good. Yeah, they're just that

814
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: never used to happen, right, They've a couple of Yeah, Matt.

815
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Bonner was wearing them.

816
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: That wasn't good.

817
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: I guess he's Jamal Murray wears those brown ones that

818
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: you don't like, Trey, but you know.

819
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: Just an unusual look for a basketball on court shoe.

820
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: They probably look good in person, because I'm with you.

821
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 5: I think the shoes look pretty good like the ones

822
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 5: he's wearing in the commercial, which I don't know if

823
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 5: that's his real driveway, but if it is cool and

824
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 5: if not, I think still a pretty solid spot. You know,

825
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 5: it just hit him out there warming up. But the

826
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 5: old New Balance basketball shoes like in the Bonner days.

827
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Speaker 5: My buddy from back home used to wear them in

828
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: college as well. They're just like the biggest, whitest shoe

829
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: you could possibly make, with the smallest N on the side,

830
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: no other design.

831
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Speaker 1: They were brutal. These aren't bad.

832
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: I'm kind of interested in trying a pair because they

833
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 5: are making a lot of gains in the basketball world.

834
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: I think this is a huge deal. Guy's gonna be

835
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: the number one draft pick. We know he's gonna make

836
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 5: it to the NBA and probably be successful the way

837
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: he was practicing against Team USA.

838
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: But he's going to Duke, like.

839
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: One of the longest running Nike schools out there, a

840
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 5: major college program. I think it's surprising that he would

841
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 5: sign with New Balance. The only negative I can see

842
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 5: with this is that the Boston Celtics rumors are going

843
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 5: to be insane for the entirety of this guy's career.

844
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 5: Not only is he white, he's from Maine, where there

845
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 5: are multiple factories for New Balance, which is based in Boston.

846
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 5: There are going to be rumors about this guy going

847
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: back to the Northeast for the entirety of his career.

848
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I think tam so at Duke, will he have to

849
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: wear Nikes? I don't know the rules now, Yeah, yeah,

850
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You would think he would have to, but

851
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works with the NIL.

852
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the first time New Bounce is

853
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: signing someone going into college. From what I remember, I think,

854
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: so none of these players that we mentioned from the NBA.

855
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: I don't think Camera Brink sign it before.

856
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she just signed it before going to WNBA.

857
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 3: All these players have been good, So yeah, it's totally different.

858
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: I think Connecticut's Page Bucher's she was the first college

859
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: athlete with her own signature shoe deal after she signed

860
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: the NIL contract with Nike. But yeah, now we got

861
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Flag here, but we'll have to see how that goes.

862
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, Celtics fans are gonna

863
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: want Flag for sure. They're gonna get greedy here. And

864
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: that was cool, Like he did talk about like this

865
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: sort of why he went with New Balance a little

866
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: bit right, like, look, he's getting a bag. I get that,

867
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: but like my mom used to go back to school

868
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: shopping there Yeah, like mom would take me to the

869
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: factory outlet and pick up some new balances. So good

870
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: for him. So he's already got that taken care of,

871
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: all right, Final one here in the updown report. This

872
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: has been blast. I'm glad we did this here last one.

873
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: NBA two K has revealed its top ten player ratings

874
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: featured in NBA two K twenty five. Raigning MVP Nikola

875
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: Jokic retained his position at the top despite slipping from

876
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: a ninety eight overall to ninety seven overall. Yeah, he

877
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: had a bad year last year. Yep, yep, just one

878
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: and now share his first place with two other Europeans.

879
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: You got Luca and Giannis. And there's a look at

880
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: the top ten. We're showing you on YouTube. So it's

881
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: it's the Joker, It's Luca, it's Jannis all at ninety seven,

882
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: it's Shay at ninety six, along with dwell Embiid. At

883
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: the ninety five overall you got Lebron, Steph and Tatum,

884
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: and then at ninety four you got Kevin Durant and

885
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. TK. You're a gamer? Are you up or

886
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: down on the top ten player ratings? Here for two

887
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: K twenty five. I'm up.

888
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 5: In general, I'm up because those are ten of the

889
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 5: top players in the NBA.

890
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: You could probably quibble.

891
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: After eight maybe about who's making the final slots there

892
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: nine to ten. I would personally have Kevin Durant one

893
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 5: percentage point higher. I would give him a ninety five

894
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 5: so that he's there with Lebron and Stephan. I think

895
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum is a ninety five. Well, I think Kevin

896
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: Durant is at least as good as Jason Tatum.

897
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's at the very least.

898
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: They got the top three players in the league right

899
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 5: in Jokich, Luca, and Yannis. I would also have them

900
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: one tiny little bit ahead of Shake gel jis Alexander.

901
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: So it's hard to like look at these and be like, okay, okay,

902
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: one points difference. How much does that make? Where does

903
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 5: the points come from? I don't honestly know how to

904
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 5: put Embiid in the mix here, because when he's playing

905
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: top five guy easily, and when he's looking out of

906
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: shape or coming back from an injury, not a top

907
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 5: five guy. So I think in general, you can you

908
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 5: turn injuries off in a two K twenty five. You

909
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 5: can okay, turn the sliders down? Yeah, just turn the

910
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: sliders down.

911
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: He's fine. You can play all eighty two games. You

912
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: can play forty eight minutes a night. Yeah, they did

913
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. It's a decent snapshot of probably

914
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: the top ten guys in the league. Task or are

915
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: there any omissions that you think should have been up there?

916
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: They did a very good job.

917
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: I would say if you look could MVP voting from

918
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: last year the people that are missing?

919
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: Where is Jalalen Bronson?

920
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: Right?

921
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: And Demanto Saboni's got lots of MVP votes? Well, I

922
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: guess he got three some tiny ones there or he

923
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: got three points. Those are the names, along with Devin

924
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: Booker that I would and Anthony Edwards that I would

925
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: start to look at. Where could I squeeze them into

926
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: this top ten?

927
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: That is very well done? Tray hit it.

928
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean you could you could bump up a KD.

929
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 3: Lebron still belongs there, There's no doubt about that. Luca

930
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: will probably come down at some point. I think he

931
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: is going to start the season.

932
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: A little bit.

933
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: Luca.

934
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think he's played as many games

935
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: as he's played this year ever in his career ever

936
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: in his life where he had to go into the

937
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: NBA finals and be the guy.

938
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: He saw him slow down in the NBA.

939
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: Finals, So maybe he's just got to chill a little

940
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: bit in October. But he'll still be one of the

941
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: best players in the league. So they did a good job.

942
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay, where's Wendy By this? Well? Yeah, where where is Wenby?

943
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's too far out. He's number eighteen. Yeah,

944
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: so will next in two K twenty six? Will he

945
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: be a top ten? Will he be a top five?

946
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Will he be top three?

947
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: US mark me down for he's a top ten NBA

948
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 5: two K twenty five player.

949
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: When they update the ratings later on in the season,

950
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: they update it. Wow, nice way to call that. I

951
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: forgot they could do that. Yeah, I was.

952
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: I went deep. I went to their website. I saw

953
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 5: their top one hundred. Who do you think the biggest

954
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 5: riser in the top one hundred spots is? He's at

955
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 5: number thirty six. He's a plus ten compared to last season,

956
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 5: like his overall rating got ten points.

957
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: He's at thirty. He's at thirty six. Now he's the

958
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: he's the thirty sixth best player. So that gives you

959
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of like a range of who you might be looking.

960
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: Six.

961
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: Assume he's a young guy, young guy, yep, like Jalen Williams.

962
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 5: No, he was a high riser as well, but not

963
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 5: the highest riser.

964
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: But for Tyres, Maxie is too low.

965
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: For Maxi, Jalen is pretty close. Who is it?

966
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 4: Shngoon Oh big.

967
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: Apello, No, he's a He's a good riser as well.

968
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 5: Chet Holmgren is the biggest riser. He's a plus ten

969
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: this season. He's an eighty seven overall. Number two highest riser.

970
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: Derek Lively, he's a plus nine to eighty one. Just

971
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 5: barely cracked the top one hundred at number ninety eight.

972
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: How about the biggest dropper in the top one hundred.

973
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: Lost six points off of his overall rating from last year.

974
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: He's down to an eighty nine, number twenty two in

975
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 5: the league according to NBA two k oh So still

976
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 5: pretty still very good, still a very good player, but

977
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 5: not a great last season, and he was banged up,

978
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 5: quite banged.

979
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 1: Julius Randall, No, No, not bad. Devine zach Lvin, No,

980
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: he's a bit lower.

981
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: This guy, this guy, you think if you get him

982
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, he's he's a he's a ninety five.

983
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: Jimmy Jimmy Butler. That's exactly right.

984
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: They went to the finals in twenty twenty three, had

985
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: an ok year last year, and they dropped him quite

986
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 5: a bit. You guys mentioned potential other number tens in

987
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards, Devin Booker, and Jalen Brunson. They're actually at

988
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 5: eleven to thirteen. They're all A ninety three. They're all

989
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: ranked exact same, one notch ahead of Donovan Mitchell. So

990
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 5: start bench cut Edwards, Booker, Brunson.

991
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: WHOA, that's tough. They're all ninety threes or like all

992
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: three of those guys too, oh man, start bench cut. Well,

993
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to cut Anthony Edwards.

994
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't understand what skill means. No skill, respect for magic.

995
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Get out of here. Let me start Brunson, Booker off

996
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: the bench because he doesn't respect the elders. Is out

997
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: of here. Perfect, That's where I'll go.

998
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't know the chet Holmgrig shouldn't have been on

999
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: the ratings two years ago.

1000
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: I didn't even play. I mean, I'm sure he was

1001
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: on the game.

1002
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's why he was so low he

1003
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 5: wants to have been like, yeah seventy something, yeah, seventy.

1004
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: So will any of you buy this game? Will you

1005
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: partake in this game?

1006
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 5: Well? I only play NBA two K on Switch, which

1007
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: is the worst possible platform for it, and it comes

1008
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 5: out the latest. So after we're like two thirds of

1009
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 5: the way end of the season, I'll slide into Ronnie

1010
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 5: two k's d MS and say, hey, you still got

1011
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 5: my photo in there?

1012
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Can I get a code? I need to play this

1013
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: game two or three times? Are we still in the game?

1014
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 5: I think so yeah. I feel like we signed lifetime contracts.

1015
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: I know, I think so far still appear in there.

1016
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 5: I remember I re upped once. They're like, hey, do

1017
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 5: you still want to be in this game? Like, hell, yeah,

1018
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 5: of course, I yeah.

1019
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: Maybe we are still in it. Commenting on your players,

1020
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: on your my players and your team. I love that.

1021
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Always tag us whenever you see us in the game,

1022
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: tweet at us or Instagram. Make sure you take us

1023
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: one of the no dunks guys for sure. All right, Well,

1024
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: maybe Tatum will get a tattoo of the he's on

1025
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: the cover. Yeah, I wonder if you throw that on

1026
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: his body. That's a serious accomplishment. I would say that's

1027
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: more impressive than winning an Ulster game.

1028
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 5: I would be curious to see the number of All

1029
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: Star Game m VPS players who have won it all

1030
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 5: time versus number of players who have been on an

1031
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 5: NBA two K cover.

1032
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. Chambers was never on a cover.

1033
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: That's right, an NBA game. I know that for sure.

1034
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 3: We got to play it, and we have to stream

1035
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: it when we do play it. Esh jumped in here

1036
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: and said, let's stream it.

1037
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: Lol.

1038
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: I'll produce it. Well he didn't say that part, but

1039
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm just adding that in for him. You'll produce it, yeah, sure, or.

1040
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: Just twitch it straight up? Twitch it all right? Yeah?

1041
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: But I also hate playing it on Nintendo Switch. Not

1042
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 3: fun Trey. But I do it only as a freebie.

1043
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 3: Only as a freebie. Come on, let's just when it's free.

1044
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, sure.

1045
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: And for me, I'm not always in need of the

1046
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 5: newest game because my general gameplay mode is spend days

1047
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 5: upon days upon days recreating faithfully my friends to make

1048
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 5: a team, the No Dunks team, creating you guys, adding

1049
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: six inches of height and fifty pounds of weight to

1050
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 5: all of us so that we're NBA size, throwing us

1051
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 5: into the NBA and then just running rough shot.

1052
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Through the league. Oh yeah, us A lot of time.

1053
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: You had the whole like no Dunks court that one year,

1054
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Yeah, it was.

1055
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: I can't remember which two K it was on. It

1056
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 5: was definitely on a PlayStation four and it was a

1057
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 5: lot easier to set up back then. So I thought

1058
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 5: about just going into the storage, pulling out my old

1059
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 5: PlayStation and hooking it up and running it back with

1060
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 5: our you know, twenty fifteen team or whatever it was,

1061
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 5: because I mean we had we had a great mix.

1062
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get King of the fourth Quarter Kenny Beacham,

1063
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: maybe he can create us. I would love to try

1064
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: and win the championship with us. You can make some

1065
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: content out of it. Well, we'll talk to him about

1066
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 1: that'd be fun.

1067
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: Oh maybe maybe that's part of the TNT deal, because

1068
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 3: I think we did it when we're on the Starters,

1069
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: which was obviously a sister company back then. I don't

1070
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: think there was a no dunks one.

1071
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: No, I thought he did. I can see the fluorescent

1072
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: court or somebody made it. Maybe it wasn't t K.

1073
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was a fan. I definitely had a

1074
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: Starter's team. I don't know if I've made a No

1075
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Dunks team, I don't know.

1076
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1077
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: It must have been a fan because I can picture

1078
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: like the neat, like the fluorescent colors and the purple

1079
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: and all that. I think if somebody made it. Yeah,

1080
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: so somebody else do that two K TWI whenever it

1081
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Speaker 1: comes out. I don't know if this thing is out yet.

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Speaker 1: I guess not. It's coming soon.

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Speaker 5: I see a lot of gameplay clips coming across the timeline.

1084
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Speaker 4: Now.

1085
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 5: There's apparently a new shot cancel feature where it looks

1086
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 5: like you're going for a shot but you can fake it.

1087
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Speaker 5: And so far, what I can tell is it's just

1088
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 5: a way to get away with double dribbles and travels.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, we got a bug fix that. I'm gonna

1090
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 5: have to fix that, guys. Okay, we'll look into that. Well,

1091
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: let's call it there. Oh my god, we somehow almost

1092
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 5: did an hour on the updown report. There was enough

1093
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Speaker 5: to talk about. Thank you, MBA, you always delivered. We

1094
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Speaker 5: will be back next week for a couple of shows.

1095
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Speaker 5: So hit the like button, subscribe, share the show, five

1096
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: star ratings and reviewatas.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing this week? You got a little trimp,

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00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: you lit a little beach.

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00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I headed south, you know, gonna go see that beautiful,

1100
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 3: beautiful panhandle.

1101
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh the panhandle nice?

1102
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: Nice, right on the water, close enough, you know, all

1103
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: those all those places you see with golf carts.

1104
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Speaker 4: We'll write it. We'll be riding a golf cart to

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Speaker 4: the beach.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, wow, call him King of thirty A because

1107
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: he's Kenny Beach in this weekend.

1108
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Speaker 1: Nice, well done. All right, you'll see us next week.

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Speaker 1: Until then, Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have

1110
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Speaker 1: a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember we'll be playing two

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Speaker 3: K twenty five live stream.

1113
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Speaker 5: Make it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna speak it into existence because Esh in

1115
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Speaker 3: the comments said we're doing it next week.

1116
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Speaker 2: So I'm going to speak into existence. If he's speaking

1117
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Speaker 2: into existence, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Esh, Let's make it. Embrace your controllers, people, m