1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater Only on. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: The Jubile Show. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 3: Julianne is on the phone today for to Catch a 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 3: Cheater and she's been with her boyfriend Kevin for two years, 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: but now she thinks he might have been messing around. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: So we'll see if we can help her out. Julianne, 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: sorry you have to come on the show this way, 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: but what's up? Why do you think Kevin might be 9 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: cheating on you? 10 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I really I'm not sure how to explain it, but 11 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: our relationship honestly has been really good so far. We 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: have such an open and honest relationship and I before 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: now have never really thought about Kevin cheating on me. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, as far as being together for two years, 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, the bedroom activities, they're amazing. Even two years in, 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people it kind of fizzles out. 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: But I feel like that we are able to be 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: open about our fantasies and such, which I think has 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: honestly brought us a lot closer. And you know, I 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: really think that we have a lot of trust and 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: honesty in our relationship. So I'm not sure like what's 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: going on with him lately, but it's just been a 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: little weird. 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: Okay, so what has changed? Everything sounds good? So is 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: the bedroom different now? 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean there's a couple things like I've seen you know, 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: your guys is to catch a cheeter videos on TikTok 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I just see a lot of 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: parallels between our relationship and what you guys are posting. 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: So like some of the stuff that people are saying, 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: like what he's working late or feeling distant, and you 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: feel like that's starting to check boxes for you. 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to start, we haven't been as active 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: in the bedroom. Like I used to have to push 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Kevin off of me playfully because he would just be 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: coming after me all the time. I'd be trying to 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: make lunch or something and I'd be like, come on, dude, 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: I got to eat real quick. 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: Uh huh okay. 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: But lately he won't touch me. He barely touches me anymore. 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: And he also did pull the cliche I'm working late things, 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: which that's not him. He's very type A about his 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: schedule and he comes to him the same time every 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: single night, and when he doesn't, I have to listen 45 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: to him complain a lot about how he got out 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: late that's just how it is. And now he just says, oh, 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm working late and there's no complaining. Did you ask 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: him about it? I did loosely. I haven't pressed him 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: about it, but I asked him, like, why are you 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: working late so much? And he just said that they 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: have extra work going on because someone's on leave. 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: Well could that be true? 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't think so. 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: Okay, is there anything else? 55 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? The final straw was that, you know, I may 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: have peeped at his phone the other day. You may have, right, 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, and I saw some some weird flirty messages 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: with some girl from his work named Alison, and like 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: they weren't totally sexual, but there was definitely something going on. 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: What did they say. They were just talking about, you know, 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: different experiences they had in relationships and what they like 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: about each other and how like she was basically complaining 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: about how her ex would never clean up after himself 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: and she noticed that Kevin's really good at work about 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: cleaning after himself. And I feel like, that's a weird 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: conversation with some guy just like that kind of flirty 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: and I was complaining about your man. Yeah, it was weird. 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I really don't understand, Like I really don't. Kevin and 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I have such a great relationship. I don't understand why 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: he would do this. I try to give him everything 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: that he asks for. I do anything that he wants, 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I feel so safe with him. He 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: protects me, he takes care of me, and you know, 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why he would do this to me. 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. 76 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: You already told us what grocery store he's a rewards 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: member at, So we'll play a song come back, and 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: then call him and pretend to be from the grocery 79 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: store and say that every single month, we choose one 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: lucky customer who gets a free flowers delivered from our 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: floral department, and we'll see if he sends those flowers 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: to you or to somebody else. 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, sounds good, Thank you, Yeah, pleacher. 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: To Catch a Cheater next, if you're just joining us 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: for today's to Catch a Cheater. Julianne is on the 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: phone and she thinks that her boyfriend of two years 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: named Kevin might be cheating. So we're about to call 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: him from the grocery store that he's a rewards card 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: member at and tell him that he's this month's lucky 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: winner of a free gift from us and its flowers 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: delivered from our floral apartment. We'll see if he believes that, 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: and if he does, if he sends the flowers to 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: his girlfriend Julianne or to somebody else, and then we'll 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: know if he's cheating or not. But before we call 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: him Julianne, don't you break down your situation again real 96 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: quick for us. 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: So, Kevin and I have been together for two years 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: and we've had a fantastic, open and honest relationship and 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: everything's been great until recently. I noticed a lot of 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: his behaviors match the to catch a cheater videos that 101 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: I see on TikTok, and so we haven't been as 102 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: active in the bedroom and he's working late all the time. 103 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: And he also was sending weird messages to his coworker. Yeah, 104 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: that part is really what stands out. 105 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 4: It is a huge flag to me. 106 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: Are you ready for us to see if we can 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: catch him if he is cheating? 108 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: I am okay, here we go. 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, this is corrible calling from I was looking 110 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: for our rewards card member named Kevin. 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Kevin. Hey, how are you? 112 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: Please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call. 113 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: I'm actually calling to say congrats. You're this most big winner. 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for shopping with us, Thank you 115 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: so much for your business. Yeah congratulations. 116 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: Yeah that's great. So what do I win? 117 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you know this, but every 118 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: single month, we choose one Rewards Card member to say 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: thank you very much bring such a loyal customer by 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: giving you a free gift. You've won thirty six long 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: stim red roses, a box of candy or chocolate, and 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: a card to be delivered to anybody that you want 123 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: with in the fifty United States, absolutely free from our 124 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: floral apartment. 125 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: That's impressive. That's a lot. 126 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: It's very simple. The first thing I would need would 127 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: be the first and the last name of the person 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: you want to send them to, and then if you 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: want to put anything on a card, and then the 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: address and that's it. 131 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah, the name is going to go to Alison. Alison. Okay, yeah, 132 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: and let me just say the note. 133 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 5: Can you say? It's just a small thank you for 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 5: everything you've done. You're the best thing in my life. 135 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Right now. 136 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: Okay, great, I have that all down, and now I'm 137 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: going to let you know that this is not the 138 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: grocery store at all. This is actually the Dubal Show. 139 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: It's a radio show. I'm Nina and I'm Jewbil and 140 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: we do a segment on the show called to Catch 141 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: a Cheater where we see who you send flowers to 142 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: if your significant other things you're cheating, and your girlfriend 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: Julianne is actually on the phone. 144 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: Really that's what this is. 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so no one's goetting anything here. 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Yes, Kevin, what the hell is going on right now? 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: Really? 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Yes? What the hell is going on with you and Alison? 149 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: Like? 150 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: What is going on? Your behavior has completely changed in 151 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. You're always working late and you're 152 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: not complaining about it. Let's start there. That's weird. And 153 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: then also you don't even want to touch me or 154 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: come to the bedroom very often anymore. I have to 155 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: drag you practically. And I did see the messages between 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: you and Alison on the phone. You checked my phone, 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: check your phone, and reason obviously because you're obviously being sneaky, 158 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: you're obviously going behind my back with Alison, and I 159 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: caught you. I caught you because I did go through 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: your phone. 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean uh yeah, yes, yeah, look her. 162 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: Are you serious, Kevin, Yes, yes, I look, I can't 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: take this anymore. 164 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 165 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: I should have ended this, this a long time ago, 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: but it's really hard to get out of this relationship. Uh, you, 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 5: Julian are a complete psychopath. To be honest, you scared 168 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: this out of me. 169 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Why what makes you say that you know what you're 170 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: talking about. We've been so open and honest about what 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: we both want, so I don't understand why this is 172 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: coming from Kevin. Like I have been such a good 173 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: partner to you. I've really done everything that you've asked. 174 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 5: No, no, no, are you kidding? Look, because we're on 175 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: the radio, I'll tell it like it is all right. 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: You should know this open and honest thing that she 177 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 5: talks about, it's forced, all right. She demands to know 178 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: every detail about my life. And I'm not being hyperbolic, 179 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 5: like she times me in the bathroom in case I'm 180 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: talking to girls on the phone. 181 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: She's gotten she's. 182 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: Gotten into my Instagram and she's unfollowed every girl I 183 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 5: follow at least twice, and she will literally like bite 184 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 5: me to leave a mark. So when I go with 185 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: my friends, other girls will know that I'm marked. I mean, 186 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 5: this is insane. And I knew you were gonna see 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: those messages eventually, so I was expecting to get caught. 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: We will sign you in the bathroom. I would not 189 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: do that. 190 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: She totally does. She totally does. I do. 191 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: And also we share passwords with the each other. She's 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: never been a big deal for me to see this 193 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: s up. I deleted some girls that were flighting into 194 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: your DMS, Kevin, and you were cool with it at 195 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: the time. 196 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: I was not cool with it. We do not share passwords. 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 5: Oh, this crazy girl, Okay, she waits till I'm asleep 198 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 5: and uses the facial recognition to get in my phone. 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: And I've thought her twice. 200 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 5: Doing that, and and the girls she sends rude messages 201 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 5: and then calls them names. 202 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: Closing is me okay, Kevin. 203 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: While you can be very upset about all these things, 204 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: and you have every right to be, because it's not okay. 205 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: You should have broke up with her and not cheated 206 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: on her, which should have been the wise manly thing 207 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: to do. 208 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, you're absolutely right. I should have had more 209 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: to call it off and do the right thing. But 210 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 5: I guess I was just hoping to get caught. 211 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: Well you're caught now, so congratulations. 212 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is over. 213 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 5: Just let me know when I could come, When you 214 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: can come to the apartment to go get your stuff. 215 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 216 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, it's fine. I think we'll be fine. 217 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I just saw him looked at his work, and I'm 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: sure to change his mind. 219 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: You're at his job. Yeah, I told you. She's like, though, 220 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: what the are you doing here? 221 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: I just figured we could talk in person, babe. 222 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh, Julianne. 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I think there's just been a misunderstanding because of all 224 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: the people on the phone. I think we just need 225 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: to talk one on one. Kevin, I think you'll understand, Julianne. 226 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: I think if you want to have a conversation, you 227 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 3: should wait till later. I don't think it's a good 228 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: idea to do that right now. 229 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at him now, he looks fine. 230 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to walk over there and try to talk 231 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: to him. I'll talk to you'all later. Thank you for 232 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: your house, Julianne, And I probably don't do that. 233 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: She just hung up. God, I'm going to the office 234 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: right now. What and they're both gone. 235 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: Isn't this kind of a lesson, you know, once those 236 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: flags start. 237 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: To raise, Well, that was crazy on all sorts of levels. 238 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, the 239 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Jewel shows to catch a cheater,