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<v Speaker 1>Patriots Unfiltered the world's original podcast. Patriots Unfiltered brings you

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco as they bring you in depth coverage of the team.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a red shirt rookie at that point, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>really that's his rookie season essentially too. So now we're

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<v Speaker 2>really not talking about them, really knowing.

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<v Speaker 3>And Lazarre.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everybody nailed it.

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<v Speaker 4>He joined as always by our bark. Here is Evan

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<v Speaker 4>Lazar and Alex bars I have my ups and.

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<v Speaker 2>Downs and then we're gonna do ups and downs. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because they got a new phone. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they went in the new phone. Of course he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>They did. I have I haven't. I did it, but

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<v Speaker 4>I did it before I got the new phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he is loving this new pid. All I hear about,

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<v Speaker 2>like five years, all I hear about is how he

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<v Speaker 2>has a new phone. At this one does this? It

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<v Speaker 2>does that like you're like a kid on Christmas. That

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<v Speaker 2>that gets a new PLAYSTATIONE toys? Oh my god, look

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're you're old. Too old for toys, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Never too old for toys. Never too old for toys.

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<v Speaker 4>You're never too old for candy. Happy Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>How was your Halloween? Uneventful?

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<v Speaker 3>It was?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to remember what the game was. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 4>was that Jets Steelers game or no Jets?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>That was? That was? That was scary game.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen. Tonight's game should be better. Tonight's game should

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<v Speaker 4>be good.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. How do you like your phone?

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<v Speaker 4>I like it? How do you like your new computer?

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<v Speaker 4>It's great. You came to me the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. I had a I had a big

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<v Speaker 2>smile on my face. I I this is gonna sound

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<v Speaker 2>like such a snobby thing to say, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say it anyways. So when I started here, they gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a PC. And I'm not a PC guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Mac guy and I've been.

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<v Speaker 4>It's you just be careful with sponsors here and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a very good point. So I'm a one computer

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<v Speaker 2>company guy and not another computer company guy. And after

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<v Speaker 2>my time here, finally I've convinced the right people to

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<v Speaker 2>give me the right computer.

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<v Speaker 4>And I am beaming. I am that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's got a great big screen and the

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<v Speaker 2>brightness and the batteries fantastic. It's so fast. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's a machine. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a machine. It's a computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a fantastic machine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna judge you for joying that I have

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<v Speaker 4>my new toy I enjoy it. I'm still enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you're enjoying your new toy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I my friend had a corol.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I had a tough time figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>where I wanted to start today because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of mixed feelings about the Patriots right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Drake May is really showing us exactly what we all

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see. And there's two things that I keep

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to from a big picture sense. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually talking to John Rook about this on the

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<v Speaker 2>playbook yesterday and I really felt like it was a

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<v Speaker 2>good conversation. You know, There's there's two conversations to be had.

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<v Speaker 2>One is all the little things that are going wrong

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<v Speaker 2>week to week with this team that are stacking up

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<v Speaker 2>to losses and the frustration of losing, and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating as fans, as as people that cover the team,

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<v Speaker 2>as the team itself, Like no one likes to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>No one likes losing. I understand that, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the the big picture thoughts that I keep coming back

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<v Speaker 2>to are one every time I want to come on

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<v Speaker 2>here or and written and just come on and rip

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching staff for the lack of details or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they're not doing right in my eyes. Right from my perspective, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to always like see the forest for the

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<v Speaker 2>trees a little bit and recognize that this team doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole lot of talent on the roster, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're not asking like Vince will Fork to

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<v Speaker 2>plug the A gap, right, You're not asking Richard Seymour

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<v Speaker 2>to rush the passer like you're You're asking guys and

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<v Speaker 2>expecting things out of guys that frankly, uh, either weren't

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be there or aren't really up to the task.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I come on here and I take

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<v Speaker 2>shots at the coaching staff or I critique the coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have to keep reminding myself of that. The

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<v Speaker 2>other element of it that I keep reminding myself of

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<v Speaker 2>is when we came into this season, if we came

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<v Speaker 2>out of it feeling like they have a franchise quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in Drake May. Like, isn't this season sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>win just by that, right, Like just because you found

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<v Speaker 2>the guy at quarterback and you feel really good and

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<v Speaker 2>not like Mac Jones rookie year good, Like this guy

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<v Speaker 2>can actually be a potential top five quarterback MVP type

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback in this league. Like if I had told you

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<v Speaker 2>that Alex back in August that we would feel by

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<v Speaker 2>January that Drake May was truly a franchise quarterback type guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was right. I was head of the curve.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, like if I told you

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<v Speaker 2>that that was cemented this season, just make just play along.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there were talks of all votes if I

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<v Speaker 4>remember Craig Pro Bowler all pro one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them, and look who.

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<v Speaker 4>Is right, I'm setting I'm giving you credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you're who was I know the clips

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<v Speaker 2>out there because there's that and I forget his name,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy who watches the show who pulls clips.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the day of the Eagles practice and he

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<v Speaker 4>tweeted out your quote about Drake May.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not ready to do any

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<v Speaker 2>victory laps yet. It's too early and there's still things

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<v Speaker 2>that he needs to work on, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that. It's not a finished product yet. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't sit here and say that he's where He's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I expected, which I think is different from what

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<v Speaker 2>others expected. Like I am not surprised, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to Drake yet, but like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>surprised by anything that we're seeing from Drake may because

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<v Speaker 2>I always knew that he was capable of doing the

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<v Speaker 2>things he's doing right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I would say he slightly surpassed my expectations. Now

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<v Speaker 4>there are things he needs to work on, and those

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<v Speaker 4>don't like the issues he's having. I'm not gonna sit

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<v Speaker 4>here and say there aren't issues. He's a rookie quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>From the issues, I don't think there's been anything that's

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<v Speaker 4>an issue that I look at and I say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't expect that to be a problem, right, the turnovers,

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<v Speaker 4>reckless play for lack of a better word, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>exactly the word I want to use, but maybe being

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<v Speaker 4>too reckless at times, Like he needs to be better

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<v Speaker 4>about that stuff. But I wouldn't say it's surprising, like

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<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what you were signing up for. You

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<v Speaker 4>knew you got what you signed up for with Drake may.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there hasn't been a ton that you look

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<v Speaker 4>at one way or the other and say, well, that

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<v Speaker 4>was unexpected.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exactly and this is a sort of part

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<v Speaker 2>of my point, right, this is exactly what I expected

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<v Speaker 2>him to be in his rookie season. I expected because

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<v Speaker 2>Frank this is exactly what he was at North Carolina. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>he was better at taking care of the ball at

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, but it's also college versus the NFL, but

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<v Speaker 2>in general at North Carolina, and if you actually watch

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<v Speaker 2>their games and talk to people down there and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, they'll tell you that he has five plays

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<v Speaker 2>a game that make your jaw drop. Whatever it's throws,

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<v Speaker 2>running out of st ructure or whatever, he has five

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<v Speaker 2>plays a game that just make you go, holy crap,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is incredible. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some bumps along the way, and sometimes the results

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<v Speaker 2>as a team, the wins and losses don't always come

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<v Speaker 2>to fruition, and you wonder how much of that is

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<v Speaker 2>him and how much of that is what's around him,

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<v Speaker 2>And you have that whole conversation. But back to the

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<v Speaker 2>original point, I want to give some grace to the

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff because of what they're working with. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that they're working with great tools, right. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, they're doing things that shouldn't be about talent, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're doing things that are just hurting the team

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<v Speaker 2>and making it more difficult for the team to win

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<v Speaker 2>that have nothing to do with talent. You know, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about lineup changes, and we're potentially going to see another

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<v Speaker 2>one on the offensive line on Sunday. I still have

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<v Speaker 2>not heard a great explanation from Gerrodmeo or Alex Van

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<v Speaker 2>Pelt as to why Laden Robinson started that game on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday against the Titans and Jeffrey Simmons, I still haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard a great explanation. If they had come out and

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<v Speaker 2>they had said two things that I think would have

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<v Speaker 2>been good explanations. We felt like the right side of

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson and on when it was going to allow us

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<v Speaker 2>to run the football. I could hear that those two

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<v Speaker 2>guys are are are strong, powerful, good run blockers. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear that, but they didn't run the ball

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<v Speaker 2>effectively one and two that they haven't said that. Number two,

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<v Speaker 2>if they had said at this point in our season.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're two and six or two and seven now,

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<v Speaker 2>we just want to play the kids, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to develop the roster and play the kids and

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<v Speaker 2>see what these guys get. I got so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can get to next offseason. Okay, fine, I can hear

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<v Speaker 2>those explanations. But if you're just trying to win the

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<v Speaker 2>game on Sunday, like that was not That was not

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<v Speaker 2>the way to do it, right, Like that was a

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<v Speaker 2>good decision.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it wasn't. It annoyed me, Like we talked so

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<v Speaker 4>much about building the continuity and it felt like they

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<v Speaker 4>were starting to do it and to make that move

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<v Speaker 4>at the expense of your best offensive lineman and I

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<v Speaker 4>get it. You want to play the kids, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is my theory. They just like Ladon Robinson he was

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<v Speaker 4>the draft picks City still wasn't. Michael Jordan wasn't. And

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<v Speaker 4>they want to get the kid in there and make

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<v Speaker 4>it work. And I mean they they were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>in camp. Remember thinking he was like, They're like, we

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<v Speaker 4>think he can be one of the best guards in

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<v Speaker 4>this league. Like three weeks in a camp when I

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<v Speaker 4>said is that they were very I remember them being

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<v Speaker 4>like oddly high on him. Early and King.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I think he's got a potentially bright future,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt about that. But right now, as a

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<v Speaker 2>pass protector, Leyden Robinson is not NFL caliber. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting a guy out there, and yeah, maybe you're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>to develop him and all that, and I get that,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're putting a guy out there that at the

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<v Speaker 2>moment cannot pass protect at an NFL level. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>Bears front doesn't have a Jefferyson in the middle. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Montes Sweat's a really good edge rusher if he plays

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<v Speaker 2>in this game, but they don't really have They don't

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<v Speaker 2>even have a Devandre Sweat, the kid from Florida. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>blanking on his name right now as a decent player,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not. He's not Jeffery Simmons, right, So they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have one of those guys. But we're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Monday, Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday in practice, we're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see another offensive line combination. You know, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>on Wenny Wet left guard, Leyden Robinson in at right guard,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're starting to see more changes to this offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>The sequence before the half, which Alex Van Pelt said

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<v Speaker 2>today was the most disappointing two plays of the entire

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<v Speaker 2>game on Sunday was also to me still not still

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a great explanation Like his explanation today of

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<v Speaker 2>when you're running downhill two plays in a row you

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to get a yard does not explain

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<v Speaker 2>to me why you're prioritizing the yard in the two

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<v Speaker 2>minute drill, right, Like, if you throw the ball on

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<v Speaker 2>second and third down and you find a completion, the

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<v Speaker 2>assumption is is that you're going to pick up the

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<v Speaker 2>first down organically, like you shouldn't have to be stressed

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<v Speaker 2>about picking up a yard, you know. So they went

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<v Speaker 2>in there, they put they kind of put the offense

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<v Speaker 2>back into the four corners and they just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>parked the car to prioritize a yard. And then his

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<v Speaker 2>lament is, well, we couldn't, we couldn't pick up the yard, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you throw on second and one and Drake

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<v Speaker 2>may hits a ten yard pass on second and one,

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<v Speaker 2>then we don't even have to worry about third and one, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, That's where I don't understand that one. And

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<v Speaker 2>we can obviously get into this as well a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit in overtime. Taking the wind or not taking the wind,

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<v Speaker 2>or whichever way you want to put it. Kicking, let's

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<v Speaker 2>call it not factoring in the wind. Not factoring in

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<v Speaker 2>the wind to not confuse people. It's just what's the

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<v Speaker 2>word like?

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<v Speaker 3>It just is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not paying attention to the details right like, And you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be more buttoned up than that. Which way

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<v Speaker 2>the wind is blowing has nothing to do with who

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<v Speaker 2>is playing left guard for you right or who is

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<v Speaker 2>playing defensive tackle for you against the run, or.

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<v Speaker 4>We have an all Pro team out there the winds

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<v Speaker 4>and it might be mitigated, but it's all the more reason.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is something I talked about this coaching staff

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<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of the year, like they were gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to elevate the players right, the roster being what

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<v Speaker 4>it is, all the more reason, every little detail right

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<v Speaker 4>has to be locked down. I found the Laden Robinson quote.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I remembered it a little bit. It

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<v Speaker 4>was also after the first regular season game. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>in camp. Yeah, this was in response to the first game.

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<v Speaker 4>After the Bengals. There was a point during training camp

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<v Speaker 4>where not only myself, but I think the other coaches

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<v Speaker 4>saw it. Who was this Girod. Sorry, Okay, there was

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<v Speaker 4>a point in time during training camp where not only myself,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the other coaches saw it. We said, Laydon

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<v Speaker 4>Robinson has an opportunity to be a special player in

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<v Speaker 4>this league. He's tough, he'll move guys off the line

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<v Speaker 4>of scrimmage. He can't do it all. His overall effort

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<v Speaker 4>and mentality is something that when you think about changing

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<v Speaker 4>the culture, he's definitely one of those guys that fits

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<v Speaker 4>into that box. He did a great job now saying

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<v Speaker 4>that it's only one game, we'll see how that continues

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<v Speaker 4>to progress going forward. That sounds like a guy that

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna try to And granted this was two months ago,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's the description of a guy the coaching staff

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<v Speaker 4>believes should be in the lineup no matter what. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and you go to that culture stuff. So that's where

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, again, I'm not telling you Laydon Robinson is

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna suck for all of eternity. But he's not

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<v Speaker 4>ready yet. Yeah. You even look at Mike go and

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<v Speaker 4>when who was a great calm for this. He sat

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty one and I know there were some external

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<v Speaker 4>circumstances there, but he's sat in twenty one and it

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<v Speaker 4>made him a better player in twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like Leyden Robins.

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<v Speaker 4>So you just said a lot. So I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to well like for the plus, I want to get

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<v Speaker 4>to it. Lane Robinson being in the lineup right now

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<v Speaker 4>is not what's best for Ladon Robinson. It's also not

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<v Speaker 4>what's best for Drake May. I get play the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand that you play the kids as a baseline,

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<v Speaker 4>understand what you have. I think they should more or

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<v Speaker 4>less know where Laydon Robinson's aut at this point, and

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't look like a guy who should be on

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<v Speaker 4>the field, especially when your best offensive lineman is right

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<v Speaker 4>guard and you keep moving him around. You're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to allow him to maximize his game. You're risk agitating

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<v Speaker 4>the guy. I know he just got paid, but you're

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<v Speaker 4>risk agitating the guy. I just Laydon Robinson is not

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<v Speaker 4>a guy. If anything truim it left. But he's liability

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<v Speaker 4>and pass protection right now. And how many times have

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<v Speaker 4>I said this with the receivers. Ideally, what's best for

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<v Speaker 4>Drake May and what's best for Laydon Robinson is the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing right now, It's not and you have to

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<v Speaker 4>default to the quarterback for the end of the half thing.

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<v Speaker 4>People probably have the speech memorized at this point, right,

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<v Speaker 4>like I haven't been like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot and bothered by the end of the half stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, this isn't usually because I don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>because you.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't believe that the clock matters a football game. Play

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<v Speaker 4>forty minutes, play seventy minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't care that aside, The part that annoyed me

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<v Speaker 2>about the end of the half was the play call,

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<v Speaker 2>like deciding to run the ball. So the way it

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<v Speaker 2>has something to do with managing the clock or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that like this, it's about the actual play calling

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<v Speaker 2>of running the football there, And I get it, you think, so,

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<v Speaker 2>but what's the goal? Like this, what's the goal? So

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<v Speaker 2>you pick up the yard? Sorry, but just like what's

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<v Speaker 2>the goal? Like, you pick up the yard? And now

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<v Speaker 2>it's first and ten at what the you know, forty

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<v Speaker 2>yard line, let's call it, right, They gained twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>yards on first first down, you know to Kendrick Bourne,

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<v Speaker 2>back to back plays, I think it was twenty three yards, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, an out route to the sideline

0:16:59.538 --> 0:17:01.378
<v Speaker 2>that the Titans were just giving them. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to take anything away from Drake or Kendrick Bourne,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it wasn't exactly thrown into a key hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking like it's first and ten, let's call

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<v Speaker 2>it from their own forty yard Yeah, so riped the

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<v Speaker 2>like what's the goal?

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<v Speaker 4>But like, but the situation plays into that. On one hand,

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<v Speaker 4>like you have less time, even more reason to go

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<v Speaker 4>for the chunk. The other one is, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 4>they're watching these right, would you say they got too

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<v Speaker 4>cute in that situation? Would you say they may be

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<v Speaker 4>overthought it? Let me use that. Would you say they

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<v Speaker 4>overthought the situation?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if overthought are too cute, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>right word for it. I just feel like their priorities

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<v Speaker 2>are out of whack. Like, in my opinion, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation, the most important thing things are the clock,

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<v Speaker 2>the field position in getting points.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so but this is my point. You're saying, like

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<v Speaker 4>the clock, the situation does matter. The situation it was

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<v Speaker 4>in emphasizes the mistake of the play calling right, And

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<v Speaker 4>this is my point. For whatever reason it is. When

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<v Speaker 4>you get the ball inside of two minutes at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the first half, you have the ball, the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing you cannot do is give the ball back

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<v Speaker 4>to the opponent. Ideally want to score, that's great, touchdown

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<v Speaker 4>would be preferred. You take a field goal in some cases,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are some instances, like I know people didn't

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<v Speaker 4>like they ran to the clock out against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand the frustration with that, but at least you

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<v Speaker 4>picked the lane. At least you picked the lane. And

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<v Speaker 4>also it's like, yeah, you're starting quarterback got hurt. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. But they had a plan and they

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<v Speaker 4>executed it. They've had six of these opportunities now this year, which,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, is kind of wild that this is

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<v Speaker 4>coming up every single almost every single game. They've had

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<v Speaker 4>it six times in nine games where they get the

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<v Speaker 4>ball with a minute and a half to two minutes

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<v Speaker 4>to go. Yeah, and multiple timeouts and it's either go

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<v Speaker 4>try to score or take the ball to the half.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing you absolutely cannot do is punt or

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<v Speaker 4>turn the ball over, like you can't give the ball back.

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<v Speaker 4>I give them credit for one and a half of six,

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<v Speaker 4>right that the Texans game they got although it took

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<v Speaker 4>Drake May going so the man.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's the thing is like the Texans one they

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<v Speaker 2>got by default, and I have a bigger point about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But sometimes sometimes like I don't necessarily hate if the

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<v Speaker 4>plan is sometimes counting on Drake Man to be Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they're and overall back like fine, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I give them that. I give them half of a

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<v Speaker 4>credit for the Jets one because they executed a plan.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it wasn't the plan that should have been, but

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<v Speaker 4>they executed a plan. So that's that's a twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>percent success rate in what is a crucial especially when

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<v Speaker 4>some of these have been potential double scores that was

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<v Speaker 4>the other twenty five, or they've set up on the

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<v Speaker 4>inverse double scores for the other teams. Now, they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get burned as bad as they should have in this

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<v Speaker 4>one because Tennessee also threw up all over themselves. That

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<v Speaker 4>was also a terrible, too terrible two minutes roll by

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<v Speaker 4>the Titans. It wasn't the worst two minute display we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen this way. By the year the Miami game, both

0:19:47.618 --> 0:19:50.658
<v Speaker 4>teams still worse. But the point being, you should not

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<v Speaker 4>be succeeding twenty five percent of the time in what

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<v Speaker 4>are massively key situations in football games, and it Girad

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<v Speaker 4>Mayo talked about we can't be mistake repeaters right early

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<v Speaker 4>in the year. It's time and time and time again.

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<v Speaker 4>And they did it the first time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Mayo acknowledge we have to be better. They did it

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<v Speaker 4>the second time, Mayo acknowledged it was just like the

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<v Speaker 4>first time. We screwed that up six times in I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what are we doing? Yeah? What are are they not

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<v Speaker 4>learning anything?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't And this is my bigger point of

0:20:22.018 --> 0:20:25.178
<v Speaker 2>it all when it comes to this situation, and really

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<v Speaker 2>the win situation too, they just don't have control of

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<v Speaker 2>the situation, like they don't know. I'd doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they have a plan, like they don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do. So they get caught in like this

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<v Speaker 2>middle sort of situation of like, you know, okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>go past pass on the first two plays of.

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<v Speaker 4>The two minute drill.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're in second and one, and now we're running

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<v Speaker 2>right and we're just we're getting caught in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>here of all, right, are you being aggressive or are

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<v Speaker 2>you being conservative? Like why did you throw the ball

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<v Speaker 2>on the first two plays of the drive if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be conservative, because well so, then get on

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<v Speaker 2>second and third down.

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<v Speaker 4>Is conservative? There's been times they've gone like run past

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<v Speaker 4>pass and it was, you know, the approach conservative versus aggressive.

0:21:07.418 --> 0:21:10.858
<v Speaker 4>I think they overthought it and they got too I

0:21:10.938 --> 0:21:14.538
<v Speaker 4>think the overall approach was being aggressive. But they saw

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<v Speaker 4>the second and one and their eyes lit up and

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, ooh, easy, first down, right. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it was suddenly, let's get conservative. That's like the whole

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<v Speaker 4>thing to me though, because I know that's ultimately a

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<v Speaker 4>conservative approach. But I don't think they got to the

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<v Speaker 4>fort like when I you're conservative two minute drill. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they got to the forty and decided, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we gotta start running the clock. Yeah, right. I think

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<v Speaker 4>they got that point and said, all right, let's pick

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<v Speaker 4>up a quick first down and boom, we'll get back

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<v Speaker 4>to throwing the ball. Right when like second and one,

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<v Speaker 4>take a shot that's like the cleanest and when I said, like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the most obvious opportunity to take a shot, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>Well the Bears are probably gonna sit on it and

0:21:49.258 --> 0:21:51.658
<v Speaker 4>fall back. Then he hit pop Douglas on an underneath

0:21:51.658 --> 0:21:52.898
<v Speaker 4>the cross and let him run with the ball in

0:21:52.938 --> 0:21:56.658
<v Speaker 4>his hands, like you have so much at your disposal

0:21:57.098 --> 0:22:00.578
<v Speaker 4>in that situation, if you're the Patriots twice. Yeah, and

0:22:00.618 --> 0:22:01.898
<v Speaker 4>they didn't take advantage.

0:22:01.498 --> 0:22:04.578
<v Speaker 2>Of I think your point about what their thought process

0:22:04.738 --> 0:22:07.498
<v Speaker 2>was was spot on. Yeah, it's second and one. The

0:22:07.698 --> 0:22:10.498
<v Speaker 2>opponent probably thinks we're going to try to take that shot,

0:22:10.898 --> 0:22:13.858
<v Speaker 2>so instead we're gonna hand it. Gun run, by the way,

0:22:13.978 --> 0:22:16.697
<v Speaker 2>is what they ran. We're gonna gun run, I think

0:22:16.738 --> 0:22:20.018
<v Speaker 2>it was with Jamichael Hasty, and maybe we pick up

0:22:20.258 --> 0:22:23.058
<v Speaker 2>a free eight yards on this gun run right here

0:22:23.378 --> 0:22:25.018
<v Speaker 2>gives us a new set of downs, and now we're

0:22:25.058 --> 0:22:27.498
<v Speaker 2>around midfield, and then maybe we'll take a shot when

0:22:27.538 --> 0:22:28.578
<v Speaker 2>we're around midfield.

0:22:29.098 --> 0:22:30.138
<v Speaker 4>I can hear all that.

0:22:30.818 --> 0:22:34.018
<v Speaker 2>And this is where execution versus process comes in, Like

0:22:34.098 --> 0:22:36.138
<v Speaker 2>if they pick up the blocks and they make that happen,

0:22:36.218 --> 0:22:39.338
<v Speaker 2>and we're probably not necessarily talking about it in this way.

0:22:40.098 --> 0:22:45.898
<v Speaker 2>I just philosophically, I just disagree with prioritizing the first

0:22:45.978 --> 0:22:48.258
<v Speaker 2>down there. I just don't agree that that is the

0:22:48.338 --> 0:22:51.018
<v Speaker 2>most important thing. I think the most important thing are

0:22:51.098 --> 0:22:53.578
<v Speaker 2>the clock in the field, position that you're in right

0:22:53.738 --> 0:22:56.458
<v Speaker 2>yards yards in the clock are the two things you

0:22:56.498 --> 0:23:00.618
<v Speaker 2>should be prioritizing there, not the first down. And the

0:23:00.738 --> 0:23:03.018
<v Speaker 2>last thing I want to say about this whole spiel

0:23:03.698 --> 0:23:06.058
<v Speaker 2>with the wind situation in overtime.

0:23:06.538 --> 0:23:09.018
<v Speaker 4>So I've been touched on that. It just can't There's

0:23:09.058 --> 0:23:10.298
<v Speaker 4>there's no way around it. Can't have it.

0:23:10.378 --> 0:23:12.778
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna draw it up, all right, I'm gonna

0:23:12.818 --> 0:23:15.298
<v Speaker 2>draw it up because I want to show everybody here

0:23:15.778 --> 0:23:17.098
<v Speaker 2>why I think that you.

0:23:17.258 --> 0:23:18.898
<v Speaker 4>Need like a sharpie or something that's not gonna show

0:23:18.938 --> 0:23:20.458
<v Speaker 4>up on a white piece of paper. I think it's

0:23:20.498 --> 0:23:22.298
<v Speaker 4>not gonna show up. Can we zoom in? Do we

0:23:22.338 --> 0:23:26.177
<v Speaker 4>have a sharpie back there? I want to get a water.

0:23:26.458 --> 0:23:28.898
<v Speaker 2>I want to show you guys if I can with

0:23:29.018 --> 0:23:34.658
<v Speaker 2>this sharpie. Hey, I'm gonna try. I personally, and look

0:23:34.738 --> 0:23:38.298
<v Speaker 2>I got I got pushed back from on PU for

0:23:38.418 --> 0:23:40.538
<v Speaker 2>this because it was a little bit of a homer

0:23:40.618 --> 0:23:44.018
<v Speaker 2>take a little bit of a drake, may take shocker.

0:23:45.778 --> 0:23:50.338
<v Speaker 2>I personally think that taking the wind or not or

0:23:50.378 --> 0:23:53.898
<v Speaker 2>whatever the heck we're talking about, failing to factor in

0:23:53.938 --> 0:23:59.698
<v Speaker 2>the wind, sure, failing the factor in the wind cost

0:23:59.778 --> 0:24:03.058
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots a walk off sixty yard touchdown in overtime.

0:24:03.138 --> 0:24:05.338
<v Speaker 4>Troy Brown and my uh, Tom Brady and Troy Brown

0:24:05.378 --> 0:24:05.738
<v Speaker 4>in Miami.

0:24:05.818 --> 0:24:07.898
<v Speaker 2>That was my if we consume it on this this

0:24:08.098 --> 0:24:10.178
<v Speaker 2>is the play call right there?

0:24:10.218 --> 0:24:10.378
<v Speaker 4>You go.

0:24:11.138 --> 0:24:14.418
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So these crossing routes here, this like little leak

0:24:14.458 --> 0:24:17.378
<v Speaker 2>out route into that flat, and this crossing route right

0:24:17.418 --> 0:24:19.818
<v Speaker 2>here right. The idea here is to hold the post

0:24:19.858 --> 0:24:21.738
<v Speaker 2>safety up here at the top of the screen. This

0:24:21.978 --> 0:24:24.298
<v Speaker 2>right up here at up top, that's a moni hooker

0:24:24.538 --> 0:24:27.258
<v Speaker 2>right like that. You didn't draw the defenders. I ran

0:24:27.298 --> 0:24:29.538
<v Speaker 2>out of space. Uh that that that's a moni hooker

0:24:29.618 --> 0:24:31.618
<v Speaker 2>right up here, right. So what you want to do

0:24:32.018 --> 0:24:33.978
<v Speaker 2>is what they're gonna do is they're gonna roll out

0:24:34.418 --> 0:24:35.578
<v Speaker 2>Drake May to his right.

0:24:36.138 --> 0:24:38.098
<v Speaker 4>Oh, this is in I thought that was the whole drawing. Okay,

0:24:38.138 --> 0:24:38.858
<v Speaker 4>this is in progress.

0:24:38.898 --> 0:24:42.058
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're gonna roll Drake May out to the right.

0:24:42.218 --> 0:24:44.698
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna roll out right, and then what he's gonna

0:24:44.738 --> 0:24:46.978
<v Speaker 2>do is he's gonna hope that this safety right up

0:24:47.058 --> 0:24:51.418
<v Speaker 2>top here amani hooker is going to follow him right

0:24:51.738 --> 0:24:54.578
<v Speaker 2>to the right, thinking that he's gonna throw this second

0:24:54.658 --> 0:24:57.898
<v Speaker 2>level crosser right here that I drew. Guess what happens.

0:24:58.178 --> 0:25:01.058
<v Speaker 2>He rolls to his right, The crosser runs to the right.

0:25:01.338 --> 0:25:03.898
<v Speaker 2>Where does a moni hooker go? He goes with Drake

0:25:03.978 --> 0:25:07.498
<v Speaker 2>May and the crossing ground. Kaishan Boody is now one

0:25:07.578 --> 0:25:08.058
<v Speaker 2>on one.

0:25:09.018 --> 0:25:13.618
<v Speaker 4>A little bit other way by the way, all right, whatever,

0:25:13.658 --> 0:25:14.098
<v Speaker 4>just keep going.

0:25:15.298 --> 0:25:17.938
<v Speaker 2>Kaishan Boudy now is one on one on the post

0:25:18.818 --> 0:25:23.818
<v Speaker 2>up top right. If Drake May who has a howitzer,

0:25:24.058 --> 0:25:26.058
<v Speaker 2>he's got a rocket and we know it, he can

0:25:26.178 --> 0:25:30.058
<v Speaker 2>launch it right this throw right here, the roll right

0:25:30.178 --> 0:25:32.498
<v Speaker 2>throw back to the post on the left. We have

0:25:32.618 --> 0:25:36.418
<v Speaker 2>watched every single quarterback for like five years make this

0:25:36.538 --> 0:25:37.458
<v Speaker 2>throw at his pro day.

0:25:37.698 --> 0:25:40.937
<v Speaker 4>Right. This is the pro day throw Wilson.

0:25:41.178 --> 0:25:43.498
<v Speaker 2>This is the Zach Wilson throw that's turned into every

0:25:43.538 --> 0:25:46.058
<v Speaker 2>single big arm quarterback making this throw in the pro day.

0:25:46.378 --> 0:25:48.258
<v Speaker 2>I am telling you right now, I've seen Drake May

0:25:48.338 --> 0:25:51.338
<v Speaker 2>make that throw a dozen times, a dozen times.

0:25:51.898 --> 0:25:52.778
<v Speaker 4>And what happens.

0:25:53.298 --> 0:25:56.218
<v Speaker 2>He rolls to his right, the ball gets caught up

0:25:56.218 --> 0:25:57.858
<v Speaker 2>there in the air, and all of a sudden, the

0:25:57.938 --> 0:25:59.818
<v Speaker 2>Moni hooker is on the other side fielding it like

0:25:59.858 --> 0:26:03.138
<v Speaker 2>a punt that didn't that's not Drake May. Right, Drake

0:26:03.218 --> 0:26:06.138
<v Speaker 2>May can get the ball there, no problem. So I

0:26:06.178 --> 0:26:08.698
<v Speaker 2>don't know if Kaishan Boody catches it. I don't know

0:26:08.738 --> 0:26:11.098
<v Speaker 2>if he if he, you know, doesn't get tackled right

0:26:11.178 --> 0:26:13.738
<v Speaker 2>by the corner that's covering him in coverage. Hey, it's

0:26:13.778 --> 0:26:16.658
<v Speaker 2>all possible, right, I'm telling you it's all possible. What

0:26:16.738 --> 0:26:18.578
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you is that the wind made it ten

0:26:18.658 --> 0:26:20.458
<v Speaker 2>times harder for him to get the ball there than

0:26:20.498 --> 0:26:23.538
<v Speaker 2>it needed to be. If Drake May is throwing with

0:26:23.578 --> 0:26:26.698
<v Speaker 2>the wind at his back. I feel really, really strongly

0:26:27.098 --> 0:26:29.978
<v Speaker 2>that that play is completed to Kaishan Boody and we

0:26:30.058 --> 0:26:33.178
<v Speaker 2>were taught about a totally different game. And that's why

0:26:33.298 --> 0:26:35.658
<v Speaker 2>right there that the coaching staff, in my opinion, not

0:26:36.058 --> 0:26:39.658
<v Speaker 2>prioritizing the wind in that situation really cost them. And

0:26:39.978 --> 0:26:43.578
<v Speaker 2>that part of it is extremely frustrating because that is

0:26:43.938 --> 0:26:47.018
<v Speaker 2>in it's a controllable, right, there's things that you can't control,

0:26:47.098 --> 0:26:49.018
<v Speaker 2>and the things that you can't control that is a

0:26:49.138 --> 0:26:52.258
<v Speaker 2>controllable and the Patriot should have been on that. And

0:26:52.538 --> 0:26:54.898
<v Speaker 2>hopefully you guys could actually see what I drew up,

0:26:55.258 --> 0:26:59.218
<v Speaker 2>but enough people have posted it on Twitter. I don't

0:26:59.258 --> 0:27:02.458
<v Speaker 2>think that Kendrick Bourne falling down had as much of

0:27:02.538 --> 0:27:05.578
<v Speaker 2>a role in it. It obviously wasn't ideal. I'm not

0:27:05.698 --> 0:27:08.378
<v Speaker 2>in a Moni hooker's head like maybe it did play

0:27:08.418 --> 0:27:10.378
<v Speaker 2>a role, but it looked to me like he was

0:27:10.418 --> 0:27:13.858
<v Speaker 2>already opening to the post before Kendrick Bourne slipped down.

0:27:14.458 --> 0:27:16.658
<v Speaker 2>But obviously it could have been a factor on the play.

0:27:17.018 --> 0:27:19.298
<v Speaker 2>I think the wind was the biggest factor. I think

0:27:19.378 --> 0:27:21.417
<v Speaker 2>Drake May under throwing the ball deserves a little bit

0:27:21.418 --> 0:27:25.778
<v Speaker 2>of Christms as well, obviously, but the coaching staff, Again,

0:27:26.098 --> 0:27:28.978
<v Speaker 2>these are just things that are actively hurting the team.

0:27:29.698 --> 0:27:32.858
<v Speaker 2>And I really felt like watching it live, I felt

0:27:32.938 --> 0:27:35.618
<v Speaker 2>like watching it on film. Uh that Kaishan Boody was

0:27:35.658 --> 0:27:38.378
<v Speaker 2>open on the play, and I definitely think that Drake

0:27:38.458 --> 0:27:40.738
<v Speaker 2>May is capable of getting him the football there. And

0:27:40.978 --> 0:27:42.978
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we did that. See a little drawing. What

0:27:43.298 --> 0:27:47.378
<v Speaker 2>do you what did you think about that, that whole situation. Yeah, regardless,

0:27:47.538 --> 0:27:49.458
<v Speaker 2>like you just got to be aware enough take the wind.

0:27:49.458 --> 0:27:51.218
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, Like the ball definitely got caught up

0:27:51.258 --> 0:27:55.578
<v Speaker 2>as a complete I don't know, I'm but yeah, I

0:27:56.258 --> 0:27:59.178
<v Speaker 2>you things like that changed the game and the things

0:27:59.218 --> 0:28:02.258
<v Speaker 2>that people you know used to get bled a lot, right, No,

0:28:02.538 --> 0:28:06.338
<v Speaker 2>that it the win. Remember like when he took the bill,

0:28:06.418 --> 0:28:09.098
<v Speaker 2>took the win against against Denver and everybody thought, no,

0:28:09.258 --> 0:28:10.778
<v Speaker 2>these things impact the football game.

0:28:11.098 --> 0:28:13.098
<v Speaker 4>Not every time. You don't know how they're gonna do it,

0:28:13.218 --> 0:28:15.818
<v Speaker 4>But leave no stone unturned.

0:28:16.098 --> 0:28:19.417
<v Speaker 2>That was you know, look I were I'm gonna get

0:28:19.418 --> 0:28:21.458
<v Speaker 2>to Alex man Peltier in the second. I do think

0:28:21.618 --> 0:28:24.258
<v Speaker 2>there's some things that you can criticize him for, but

0:28:24.498 --> 0:28:29.818
<v Speaker 2>I really liked the intent of that play because to me,

0:28:29.978 --> 0:28:33.098
<v Speaker 2>that was, uh, let's go freaking win the game, right,

0:28:33.218 --> 0:28:35.778
<v Speaker 2>And like, I love that mindset. That's the mindset I

0:28:35.858 --> 0:28:37.698
<v Speaker 2>want Drake to have. That's the mindset I want the

0:28:37.738 --> 0:28:41.738
<v Speaker 2>team to have. Yeah, let's go win the f and game.

0:28:42.178 --> 0:28:45.138
<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately, the situation just didn't allow them to go

0:28:45.218 --> 0:28:47.938
<v Speaker 2>ahead and make that play happen the way that it should.

0:28:48.298 --> 0:28:50.218
<v Speaker 2>If you watch the play back, like a Moni hooker

0:28:50.338 --> 0:28:53.898
<v Speaker 2>is not there at first, right, he kind of drifts over,

0:28:54.098 --> 0:28:56.378
<v Speaker 2>just like I described, and he drifts back into the

0:28:56.418 --> 0:28:58.498
<v Speaker 2>middle of the field when he sees Drake May load up.

0:28:58.858 --> 0:29:00.658
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that he would have recovered to that

0:29:00.778 --> 0:29:03.938
<v Speaker 2>post as quickly as he needed to if the ball

0:29:04.138 --> 0:29:06.138
<v Speaker 2>had been thrown on the line, like Drake May could

0:29:06.298 --> 0:29:08.618
<v Speaker 2>throw it, and I know he's capable of throwing it.

0:29:09.338 --> 0:29:11.818
<v Speaker 2>I he feelded it like like it looked like Devin

0:29:11.898 --> 0:29:14.898
<v Speaker 2>mccordy picking off Zach Wilson, Like it was like an armbrunt. Yeah,

0:29:14.978 --> 0:29:16.818
<v Speaker 2>that that's not how Drake May throws a deep ball.

0:29:17.178 --> 0:29:17.738
<v Speaker 4>We all know that.

0:29:18.258 --> 0:29:20.738
<v Speaker 2>Uh so that part of it was was too bad

0:29:21.938 --> 0:29:23.938
<v Speaker 2>in terms of Drake May. I do want to talk

0:29:23.938 --> 0:29:26.298
<v Speaker 2>about the pros and cons. You're smiling over there a

0:29:26.338 --> 0:29:29.938
<v Speaker 2>lot of people. No, no, I just somebody send me

0:29:30.018 --> 0:29:32.258
<v Speaker 2>something drawing. I thought I did a good job.

0:29:32.898 --> 0:29:35.418
<v Speaker 4>You did do a good job with that. USF they

0:29:35.538 --> 0:29:38.218
<v Speaker 4>play at the Buck Stadium right now. Yeah, they're building

0:29:38.258 --> 0:29:40.338
<v Speaker 4>it on campus stadium. They just release the renderings.

0:29:41.498 --> 0:29:42.898
<v Speaker 2>Why is this what you're smiling?

0:29:43.178 --> 0:29:45.778
<v Speaker 4>Because if you're gonna make a rendering of your stadium,

0:29:46.138 --> 0:29:48.658
<v Speaker 4>why would you make that the score in the rendering?

0:29:49.218 --> 0:29:52.778
<v Speaker 4>It's twenty eight three? What do they have? What's that

0:29:52.858 --> 0:29:54.538
<v Speaker 4>have to do with anything? Why would you pick the

0:29:54.618 --> 0:29:56.218
<v Speaker 4>most like? Why would you use that score?

0:29:56.458 --> 0:29:58.938
<v Speaker 2>What does use USF care about twenty eight to three?

0:29:59.258 --> 0:30:01.178
<v Speaker 4>Everybody knows what twenty eight three is. Why would you

0:30:01.218 --> 0:30:04.338
<v Speaker 4>put yourself up twenty eight three? You're inviting jokes, people like,

0:30:04.658 --> 0:30:06.978
<v Speaker 4>I'm smiling because some people are sending me twenty eight

0:30:06.978 --> 0:30:07.458
<v Speaker 4>three jokes.

0:30:07.538 --> 0:30:10.258
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this is a sick o thing, is yes?

0:30:10.298 --> 0:30:10.698
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah?

0:30:10.698 --> 0:30:11.258
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah?

0:30:11.418 --> 0:30:14.458
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, all right, Calm down over there, Okay,

0:30:15.338 --> 0:30:18.018
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Drake may I know I

0:30:18.178 --> 0:30:19.978
<v Speaker 2>just said that he probably would have hit a sixty

0:30:20.018 --> 0:30:22.138
<v Speaker 2>five yard touchdown if it wasn't for the wind. That

0:30:22.258 --> 0:30:26.418
<v Speaker 2>probably sounds like a excuse me, a giant excuse uh.

0:30:27.018 --> 0:30:29.218
<v Speaker 2>I had all three of the turnovers in this game

0:30:29.458 --> 0:30:32.098
<v Speaker 2>at least partially on him, if not fully on him.

0:30:33.418 --> 0:30:36.058
<v Speaker 2>I think the first one is just obvious, right, I mean,

0:30:36.098 --> 0:30:36.418
<v Speaker 2>it's just.

0:30:36.458 --> 0:30:37.058
<v Speaker 4>A bad play.

0:30:37.418 --> 0:30:41.898
<v Speaker 2>It's a mac Jones esque interception just can't happen. The

0:30:41.978 --> 0:30:44.778
<v Speaker 2>fumble God to have a better internal clock and better

0:30:44.858 --> 0:30:47.898
<v Speaker 2>pocket awareness than that, especially because he starts on the

0:30:47.978 --> 0:30:50.218
<v Speaker 2>left side of the field when his eyes are on

0:30:50.298 --> 0:30:52.218
<v Speaker 2>the left side of the field, like he should be

0:30:52.258 --> 0:30:54.178
<v Speaker 2>able to see out of the corner of his eye

0:30:54.938 --> 0:30:57.618
<v Speaker 2>that arden Key is getting around Vederian low right, like

0:30:57.698 --> 0:31:00.418
<v Speaker 2>that should be in his peripheral vision and he should

0:31:00.458 --> 0:31:03.858
<v Speaker 2>be able to spot that happening. I do think he

0:31:04.018 --> 0:31:06.898
<v Speaker 2>was trying to underhand it to Jamichael Hasty, So the

0:31:07.058 --> 0:31:09.578
<v Speaker 2>underhand early on in the game that worked to Ramandra

0:31:09.658 --> 0:31:12.458
<v Speaker 2>Stevenson might have kind of give him a false sense

0:31:12.498 --> 0:31:14.738
<v Speaker 2>of security a little bit to try that sort of thing,

0:31:15.178 --> 0:31:17.258
<v Speaker 2>And so instead of, you know, getting two hands on

0:31:17.258 --> 0:31:20.858
<v Speaker 2>the football and protecting the football. He tried to lateral

0:31:20.978 --> 0:31:24.738
<v Speaker 2>it out to hasty wasn't the best decision. And then

0:31:24.778 --> 0:31:28.298
<v Speaker 2>obviously the picking in overtime too was an underthrown maybe

0:31:28.298 --> 0:31:31.258
<v Speaker 2>a little bit late on the pass as well. The

0:31:31.378 --> 0:31:34.898
<v Speaker 2>thing that I would say with Drake though, on top

0:31:34.938 --> 0:31:36.738
<v Speaker 2>of the fact that I think that he's on the hole,

0:31:37.138 --> 0:31:40.258
<v Speaker 2>I had him with like sixteen plus plays in this game,

0:31:40.298 --> 0:31:42.618
<v Speaker 2>which is a really high number, really good number.

0:31:43.178 --> 0:31:43.898
<v Speaker 4>I think on the hole.

0:31:43.938 --> 0:31:47.338
<v Speaker 2>He's playing very very well outside of the turnovers. But

0:31:47.458 --> 0:31:49.538
<v Speaker 2>what I see with Drake a lot right now, and

0:31:49.618 --> 0:31:52.218
<v Speaker 2>the scrambles I think backed this up. I thought all

0:31:52.258 --> 0:31:55.338
<v Speaker 2>of eight of his scrambles in this game were legitimate scrambles,

0:31:55.418 --> 0:31:57.538
<v Speaker 2>meaning he wasn't hit in the top of the drop

0:31:57.578 --> 0:32:01.658
<v Speaker 2>and leaving early or missing open receivers and running instead.

0:32:01.938 --> 0:32:04.738
<v Speaker 2>Like it wasn't the young quarterback stuff that sometimes you

0:32:04.858 --> 0:32:07.538
<v Speaker 2>hear about or you see about. What I'm seeing a

0:32:07.578 --> 0:32:10.338
<v Speaker 2>lot with Drake, and the numbers back this up. He's

0:32:10.538 --> 0:32:12.898
<v Speaker 2>one of the best quarterbacks in the league out of structure.

0:32:12.978 --> 0:32:15.458
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the best scrambling and running quarterbacks in

0:32:15.538 --> 0:32:18.498
<v Speaker 2>the league. Already like three and a half starts into

0:32:18.538 --> 0:32:22.298
<v Speaker 2>his NFL career, but right now they're way too reliant

0:32:22.538 --> 0:32:25.618
<v Speaker 2>on him being Superman. And when you force your young

0:32:25.738 --> 0:32:28.978
<v Speaker 2>quarterback to play like Superman and drop back to pass

0:32:29.058 --> 0:32:31.818
<v Speaker 2>fifty three times, then you're gonna have some negative plays

0:32:31.858 --> 0:32:33.738
<v Speaker 2>on top of the positive plays, and they're gonna be

0:32:33.818 --> 0:32:38.218
<v Speaker 2>turnovers and there's gonna be issues. So I bring into

0:32:38.218 --> 0:32:40.258
<v Speaker 2>a question a lot of things, and you know, the

0:32:40.338 --> 0:32:42.138
<v Speaker 2>scheme I think is one of them, Like I think

0:32:42.378 --> 0:32:46.178
<v Speaker 2>too much of the scheme right now is just like

0:32:47.378 --> 0:32:49.698
<v Speaker 2>you know, f it, Drake, go do something right, like

0:32:49.818 --> 0:32:52.058
<v Speaker 2>go go, go make a play kid, And I.

0:32:52.418 --> 0:32:55.698
<v Speaker 4>Think he's starting to internalize that, which is where you

0:32:55.778 --> 0:32:58.658
<v Speaker 4>get into this conversation of worrying about bad habits. Like yeah,

0:32:58.658 --> 0:33:05.018
<v Speaker 4>tweeted this after the game. Everything about Drake May's approach

0:33:05.138 --> 0:33:09.698
<v Speaker 4>right now screams an internal to me, screams an internal

0:33:09.818 --> 0:33:12.338
<v Speaker 4>dialogue of I guess I'll have to do it myself.

0:33:12.898 --> 0:33:15.058
<v Speaker 4>And I kind of understand why he feels that way.

0:33:15.498 --> 0:33:17.898
<v Speaker 4>You have receivers dropping balls left and right, the offensive

0:33:17.938 --> 0:33:20.338
<v Speaker 4>line can't block the play callings a little vanilla eight.

0:33:21.418 --> 0:33:23.458
<v Speaker 4>I sort of get why he feels like that and look,

0:33:23.818 --> 0:33:27.298
<v Speaker 4>you drafted the kid third overall, Like you do want

0:33:27.378 --> 0:33:30.218
<v Speaker 4>him to carry your offense, absolutely, but as a rookie

0:33:30.818 --> 0:33:33.498
<v Speaker 4>to do it to this extent, it's gonna create a

0:33:33.578 --> 0:33:37.138
<v Speaker 4>very volatile situation. And you've seen very volatile play. There's

0:33:37.178 --> 0:33:39.338
<v Speaker 4>been some incredibly high highs. But he has turned the

0:33:39.378 --> 0:33:41.498
<v Speaker 4>ball over six times in essentially three games.

0:33:41.658 --> 0:33:45.338
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he just has the highest turnover where the

0:33:45.418 --> 0:33:47.058
<v Speaker 2>play right in the NFL, right right, So like.

0:33:47.178 --> 0:33:52.098
<v Speaker 4>Look, long term, the help should be coming and we

0:33:52.178 --> 0:33:55.098
<v Speaker 4>can do DK Metcalf, T Higgins, Will Campbell, whatever we

0:33:55.218 --> 0:33:58.018
<v Speaker 4>do that to the cows come home. Those guys aren't

0:33:58.018 --> 0:34:00.418
<v Speaker 4>getting here for a couple more months at least, So

0:34:01.098 --> 0:34:03.778
<v Speaker 4>you to me right now, they need to find a way,

0:34:04.058 --> 0:34:06.418
<v Speaker 4>work with him to find a way. And this is

0:34:06.458 --> 0:34:08.937
<v Speaker 4>where we get into the Josh Allen of it all.

0:34:09.378 --> 0:34:11.938
<v Speaker 4>Where I get it. He's never gonna be a traditional

0:34:12.738 --> 0:34:14.857
<v Speaker 4>drop back, three step, hit the back foot, get it

0:34:14.978 --> 0:34:17.178
<v Speaker 4>out passer. Turnovers are always going to be a point

0:34:17.178 --> 0:34:18.937
<v Speaker 4>of his game, a part of his game. He's never

0:34:18.978 --> 0:34:21.817
<v Speaker 4>gonna play the cleanest quarterback game ever. But you live

0:34:21.858 --> 0:34:23.417
<v Speaker 4>with it because of some of the things he can

0:34:23.458 --> 0:34:28.098
<v Speaker 4>do out of structure. But you don't want him mentally

0:34:28.618 --> 0:34:31.857
<v Speaker 4>becoming so reliant on again, And I guess I'll just

0:34:31.938 --> 0:34:35.218
<v Speaker 4>have to do it myself, right, And is there a

0:34:35.378 --> 0:34:37.738
<v Speaker 4>way they can take some of the load off of

0:34:37.817 --> 0:34:41.818
<v Speaker 4>him with the way things exist right now, to just

0:34:41.938 --> 0:34:45.098
<v Speaker 4>get to the end of the year without again making

0:34:45.178 --> 0:34:48.178
<v Speaker 4>him do too much? At some point the offense is

0:34:48.218 --> 0:34:50.858
<v Speaker 4>gonna be built significantly around him, saysn't. He's saying, you

0:34:50.938 --> 0:34:53.138
<v Speaker 4>got it, you can't let the kid do anything, But

0:34:53.418 --> 0:34:55.178
<v Speaker 4>it's there's there's too much on the plate right now,

0:34:55.498 --> 0:34:56.058
<v Speaker 4>there's too much.

0:34:56.458 --> 0:34:58.098
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's a great way of putting it, like,

0:34:58.138 --> 0:35:01.418
<v Speaker 2>how do we get through the next seven was it

0:35:01.738 --> 0:35:03.018
<v Speaker 2>nine games? Seven games?

0:35:03.178 --> 0:35:05.778
<v Speaker 4>Nine game played? Nine? They played nine? So eight eight games?

0:35:06.258 --> 0:35:06.817
<v Speaker 2>Bad at math?

0:35:07.298 --> 0:35:08.138
<v Speaker 4>How can we don't do math?

0:35:08.178 --> 0:35:08.218
<v Speaker 5>On?

0:35:08.458 --> 0:35:11.498
<v Speaker 2>How can we get through the next eight games with

0:35:11.778 --> 0:35:12.818
<v Speaker 2>him having Yeah.

0:35:13.178 --> 0:35:14.338
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna answer the question.

0:35:14.218 --> 0:35:19.098
<v Speaker 2>Oh, with him developing good habits and making plays, but

0:35:19.298 --> 0:35:22.498
<v Speaker 2>not having him default to playground mode so often.

0:35:23.498 --> 0:35:26.978
<v Speaker 4>One way, there's a couples. One way start running the football.

0:35:26.978 --> 0:35:30.778
<v Speaker 2>Well, start right, Like that's that's I've I feel like

0:35:30.858 --> 0:35:33.138
<v Speaker 2>that's something that they've always wanted to do. But that's like,

0:35:33.458 --> 0:35:35.018
<v Speaker 2>you know, well, easier said than done.

0:35:35.058 --> 0:35:37.857
<v Speaker 4>He's their leading rusher since he took over as the starter,

0:35:37.938 --> 0:35:39.738
<v Speaker 4>and he only played a quarter of one of those games.

0:35:39.978 --> 0:35:42.297
<v Speaker 4>Not only is he their leading rusher Evans since Week six,

0:35:43.058 --> 0:35:47.098
<v Speaker 4>he has more rushing yards than everybody else combined by

0:35:47.218 --> 0:35:51.258
<v Speaker 4>like fifty. Like part of it I think right now

0:35:51.618 --> 0:35:56.538
<v Speaker 4>is teams are just they're not They can key in

0:35:56.658 --> 0:35:59.058
<v Speaker 4>on him so much because there's no run game, and

0:35:59.178 --> 0:36:02.058
<v Speaker 4>that's only gonna get worse. I think the quickest way

0:36:02.098 --> 0:36:04.458
<v Speaker 4>out of this is to start establishing the run.

0:36:04.818 --> 0:36:07.498
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a lot of those lines. I think my

0:36:07.818 --> 0:36:13.258
<v Speaker 2>biggest complaint right now with Van Pelt is that the

0:36:13.418 --> 0:36:17.458
<v Speaker 2>offense to me is way too We're going to force

0:36:17.618 --> 0:36:20.378
<v Speaker 2>Drake into our scheme versus we're going to cater the

0:36:20.418 --> 0:36:23.138
<v Speaker 2>scheme to Drake, and there's got to be some sort

0:36:23.178 --> 0:36:23.658
<v Speaker 2>of balance.

0:36:24.698 --> 0:36:25.337
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think.

0:36:25.498 --> 0:36:27.338
<v Speaker 2>I'm not one of these people that thinks that should

0:36:27.338 --> 0:36:29.738
<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent just everything that Drake wants to

0:36:29.818 --> 0:36:33.698
<v Speaker 2>do or that's best for Drake, because way I look

0:36:33.738 --> 0:36:37.098
<v Speaker 2>at it, and I think this is gonna I don't

0:36:37.138 --> 0:36:40.658
<v Speaker 2>know one hundred but I'm curious about how this goes

0:36:40.698 --> 0:36:44.138
<v Speaker 2>with Jayden Daniels because I think right now, the scheme

0:36:44.218 --> 0:36:47.378
<v Speaker 2>that Cliff Kingsbury is running in Washington for Jaden Daniels

0:36:47.818 --> 0:36:52.418
<v Speaker 2>is very much basically just LSU's offense. Like they're basically

0:36:52.538 --> 0:36:57.218
<v Speaker 2>just running LSU's offense at a pro level. And more

0:36:57.298 --> 0:37:00.218
<v Speaker 2>times than not, maybe with Jayden Daniels it will just

0:37:00.338 --> 0:37:03.538
<v Speaker 2>won't happen and he just transcends this. But more times

0:37:03.578 --> 0:37:05.858
<v Speaker 2>than not, the league catches up to that kind of thing, right,

0:37:05.938 --> 0:37:08.378
<v Speaker 2>you know, they'll catch up to it. So eventually you

0:37:08.578 --> 0:37:11.898
<v Speaker 2>have to play a traditional quarterback, like you have to

0:37:11.898 --> 0:37:14.618
<v Speaker 2>play drop back quarterback, and it's not all gonna be

0:37:14.738 --> 0:37:16.778
<v Speaker 2>bells and whistles, and it's not all gonna be college

0:37:16.818 --> 0:37:20.058
<v Speaker 2>offense and RPO and zone read and all that kind

0:37:20.098 --> 0:37:22.698
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. With that being said, it's it would be

0:37:22.818 --> 0:37:26.378
<v Speaker 2>nice to dabble in that kind of thing. And especially

0:37:26.978 --> 0:37:30.338
<v Speaker 2>because their traditional run games going nowhere, and therefore, i

0:37:30.458 --> 0:37:32.778
<v Speaker 2>as Van Pelt told us today, their play action passing

0:37:32.818 --> 0:37:35.738
<v Speaker 2>game is going nowhere. The Patriots, in my mind, need

0:37:35.818 --> 0:37:38.458
<v Speaker 2>to be more creative on first and second down, and

0:37:39.218 --> 0:37:42.378
<v Speaker 2>the way to be creative, if you ask me, and

0:37:42.658 --> 0:37:44.777
<v Speaker 2>I've kind of flip flopped on this because I sort

0:37:44.818 --> 0:37:47.898
<v Speaker 2>of heard last week what Van Pelt was saying about

0:37:48.538 --> 0:37:52.698
<v Speaker 2>incorporating more design runs for Drake May in the offense

0:37:53.058 --> 0:37:56.018
<v Speaker 2>and how it was gonna leave him vulnerable to even

0:37:56.098 --> 0:37:59.818
<v Speaker 2>more body blows than what he's already being susceptible to.

0:38:00.538 --> 0:38:04.018
<v Speaker 2>But I think you almost have to to create some

0:38:04.138 --> 0:38:06.938
<v Speaker 2>more easy offense on first and second down. And let's

0:38:06.978 --> 0:38:09.698
<v Speaker 2>not lose sight of the fact that just because he

0:38:09.898 --> 0:38:12.738
<v Speaker 2>has the option to run on his zone read or

0:38:12.818 --> 0:38:16.297
<v Speaker 2>the option to run on an RPO doesn't necessarily mean

0:38:16.378 --> 0:38:19.018
<v Speaker 2>he has to run. And a lot of it is

0:38:19.178 --> 0:38:21.738
<v Speaker 2>just eye candy or just sort of gravity for the

0:38:21.818 --> 0:38:24.858
<v Speaker 2>defense that if you're running a zone read, like you

0:38:25.098 --> 0:38:28.578
<v Speaker 2>have to respect the backside with the quarterback, Like you

0:38:28.658 --> 0:38:30.978
<v Speaker 2>can't just crash down on the running back because he

0:38:31.058 --> 0:38:34.018
<v Speaker 2>has a threat there to keep it. Or maybe there's

0:38:34.098 --> 0:38:37.058
<v Speaker 2>like a slant coming into the window for a linebacker

0:38:37.138 --> 0:38:39.098
<v Speaker 2>and you have to make that decision. Am I going

0:38:39.178 --> 0:38:41.338
<v Speaker 2>to crash into the hole and into the line of

0:38:41.378 --> 0:38:43.938
<v Speaker 2>scrimmage here or am I gonna play the pass? And

0:38:44.098 --> 0:38:48.098
<v Speaker 2>those types of things just open up space for whether

0:38:48.178 --> 0:38:50.458
<v Speaker 2>it's a throw, a pass, a run for the quarterback

0:38:50.538 --> 0:38:53.578
<v Speaker 2>or run for the running back. So seeing more of

0:38:53.658 --> 0:38:56.138
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff I think is almost a must

0:38:56.258 --> 0:38:59.938
<v Speaker 2>because their offense right now, in my mind, is too

0:39:00.098 --> 0:39:03.258
<v Speaker 2>drop back centric, and it's too difficult for them to

0:39:03.378 --> 0:39:07.018
<v Speaker 2>execute consistently, not just for Drake, but also for the

0:39:07.058 --> 0:39:09.698
<v Speaker 2>pieces around it, Like you need receivers to run good

0:39:09.778 --> 0:39:13.058
<v Speaker 2>routes and get open, and spacing and timing and rhythm

0:39:13.178 --> 0:39:16.218
<v Speaker 2>and offensive line to pass protect, and like all these

0:39:16.298 --> 0:39:18.938
<v Speaker 2>things need to marry together for them to execute plays

0:39:19.018 --> 0:39:21.818
<v Speaker 2>after play after play after play. And there's just a

0:39:21.938 --> 0:39:25.258
<v Speaker 2>lot on Drake's shoulders to make that happen right now.

0:39:25.338 --> 0:39:28.418
<v Speaker 2>And that's why every you know, ten five, I think

0:39:28.418 --> 0:39:31.418
<v Speaker 2>it's five point seven percent of the time an overworthy play,

0:39:31.578 --> 0:39:35.378
<v Speaker 2>which is a high number. So I love in the

0:39:35.498 --> 0:39:38.458
<v Speaker 2>past what we've seen, you know, with these types of quarterbacks.

0:39:39.338 --> 0:39:43.018
<v Speaker 2>I call him Philly style RPOs. I love the Eagles

0:39:43.298 --> 0:39:45.458
<v Speaker 2>RPO package. I think it's one of the best the

0:39:45.538 --> 0:39:49.138
<v Speaker 2>league has ever seen. In Philly style RPOs, there are

0:39:49.218 --> 0:39:52.618
<v Speaker 2>three options. He can hand the ball off, he can

0:39:52.698 --> 0:39:54.938
<v Speaker 2>run it himself, or he can throw it. It's the

0:39:55.098 --> 0:39:58.618
<v Speaker 2>modern day triple options. Yeah, and it's almost like three.

0:40:00.098 --> 0:40:03.018
<v Speaker 2>It's it's almost like two separate plays in one where

0:40:03.218 --> 0:40:06.098
<v Speaker 2>the inside handoff is kind of the first play this

0:40:06.338 --> 0:40:08.858
<v Speaker 2>and then the second play is run or pass for

0:40:08.938 --> 0:40:11.698
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback once he decides to keep the football and

0:40:11.778 --> 0:40:13.858
<v Speaker 2>he sort of gets on the edge and has some space.

0:40:14.338 --> 0:40:16.498
<v Speaker 2>We've seen Jalen Hurts really be the best at it,

0:40:16.618 --> 0:40:19.618
<v Speaker 2>but other teams have run this with mobile quarterbacks, especially

0:40:19.738 --> 0:40:22.658
<v Speaker 2>young ones. You know, Anthony Richardson's like those types.

0:40:22.498 --> 0:40:24.298
<v Speaker 4>Of it's all over college football.

0:40:24.338 --> 0:40:28.058
<v Speaker 2>This is so you know, you give him like it's

0:40:28.138 --> 0:40:30.858
<v Speaker 2>like you know, usually the Eagles like to run like

0:40:31.458 --> 0:40:34.297
<v Speaker 2>curl flat or you know, stick or whatever, where it's

0:40:34.458 --> 0:40:36.937
<v Speaker 2>just like a slant you know, or a curl route

0:40:37.298 --> 0:40:39.938
<v Speaker 2>right with a little flat attached to it on the

0:40:40.018 --> 0:40:42.298
<v Speaker 2>back side of the play, and then he reads the

0:40:42.378 --> 0:40:45.138
<v Speaker 2>defender you know, on that side of the field to

0:40:45.698 --> 0:40:47.618
<v Speaker 2>determine whether he's going to give it to the back

0:40:47.778 --> 0:40:49.418
<v Speaker 2>or he's going to keep it, and then he has

0:40:49.458 --> 0:40:51.778
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of options, you know, all over the place.

0:40:52.378 --> 0:40:56.018
<v Speaker 2>That's not a traditional West Coast offense thing like that's

0:40:56.058 --> 0:41:01.258
<v Speaker 2>not a Shanahan Tree Stefanski, you know, McVeigh laflor, Like,

0:41:01.338 --> 0:41:03.978
<v Speaker 2>they don't really run that kind of stuff conventionally. But

0:41:04.578 --> 0:41:08.018
<v Speaker 2>when you can't conventionally run the football, this is the

0:41:08.058 --> 0:41:10.818
<v Speaker 2>way that you sort of unlock your early down offense.

0:41:11.298 --> 0:41:13.818
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like that's something that Drake's done in

0:41:13.858 --> 0:41:16.098
<v Speaker 2>the past at North Carolina. I think it's something that

0:41:16.138 --> 0:41:19.058
<v Speaker 2>he'd be comfortable with doing. And it also allows him

0:41:19.098 --> 0:41:20.938
<v Speaker 2>to just be an athlete out there, and it sort

0:41:20.938 --> 0:41:24.058
<v Speaker 2>of simplifies reads for him and things like that. I'm

0:41:24.098 --> 0:41:26.938
<v Speaker 2>not saying that has to be their entire early down offense,

0:41:27.498 --> 0:41:30.978
<v Speaker 2>but I definitely think that would help their early down offense.

0:41:31.058 --> 0:41:33.098
<v Speaker 2>And and then you save the good drop back plays

0:41:33.138 --> 0:41:35.978
<v Speaker 2>for third down and and maybe mitigate how often you

0:41:36.138 --> 0:41:38.897
<v Speaker 2>have to actually go to your drop back game because

0:41:38.938 --> 0:41:41.898
<v Speaker 2>right now, to me, it's not just that they're passing

0:41:41.938 --> 0:41:44.858
<v Speaker 2>a lot, it's that they're dropping back a lot. Like

0:41:44.938 --> 0:41:48.658
<v Speaker 2>there's no play action, there's no bells and whistles to

0:41:48.738 --> 0:41:52.618
<v Speaker 2>what they're dropping in emotion of screen. Right it's all

0:41:52.898 --> 0:41:56.938
<v Speaker 2>just Drake to id coverage, read it out receivers to

0:41:57.018 --> 0:42:00.777
<v Speaker 2>get open blockers to block like, it's all just on execution. Then,

0:42:00.818 --> 0:42:02.658
<v Speaker 2>at that point, and we know that they have a

0:42:02.778 --> 0:42:06.698
<v Speaker 2>talent gap disadvantage a lot of weeks that's said, all right, Uh,

0:42:07.538 --> 0:42:09.098
<v Speaker 2>is there anything else on Drake that I wanted to

0:42:09.138 --> 0:42:09.418
<v Speaker 2>get to.

0:42:10.338 --> 0:42:13.578
<v Speaker 4>I say again, like I'll give the other side of it,

0:42:13.698 --> 0:42:16.098
<v Speaker 4>because I know how you view them, Like the turnovers

0:42:16.178 --> 0:42:18.698
<v Speaker 4>do need to come down, Yeah, the turnovers do.

0:42:19.018 --> 0:42:21.018
<v Speaker 2>But this to me, like that's why I'm talking about

0:42:21.058 --> 0:42:24.578
<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff because I think the turnovers are

0:42:24.858 --> 0:42:27.777
<v Speaker 2>happening at such a high volume because of the high

0:42:27.898 --> 0:42:30.098
<v Speaker 2>volume of throws that he's making. I get that, but

0:42:30.218 --> 0:42:32.378
<v Speaker 2>but the fumbles things like that, like this is a

0:42:32.418 --> 0:42:34.178
<v Speaker 2>Bears defense that does turn the ball over in the

0:42:34.218 --> 0:42:36.777
<v Speaker 2>mount This would be a good week for him to show.

0:42:37.378 --> 0:42:39.058
<v Speaker 4>And because I see people say, how can you say

0:42:39.058 --> 0:42:40.818
<v Speaker 4>he played well? He turned the ball over three times?

0:42:41.258 --> 0:42:44.178
<v Speaker 4>And this goes back to what I said at the beginning,

0:42:44.298 --> 0:42:48.538
<v Speaker 4>I'm not his plays surpassed my expectations a little bit.

0:42:48.538 --> 0:42:49.618
<v Speaker 4>I thought there'd be a little bit more of a

0:42:49.698 --> 0:42:51.258
<v Speaker 4>learning curve than this. But I expected you're going to

0:42:51.298 --> 0:42:53.858
<v Speaker 4>see some really impressive, high level, big time throws and

0:42:53.898 --> 0:42:56.178
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna see some turnovers. If he's still turning the

0:42:56.218 --> 0:42:59.658
<v Speaker 4>ball over like this in January, I'm gonna be pretty worried.

0:42:59.898 --> 0:43:02.817
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he's still turn next year, just even next year,

0:43:03.058 --> 0:43:04.938
<v Speaker 4>I think, just because of the supporting, because of the talent.

0:43:05.098 --> 0:43:07.578
<v Speaker 4>But like the way he's turning the ball over is

0:43:07.618 --> 0:43:09.258
<v Speaker 4>not sustainable. It me be clear about it.

0:43:09.418 --> 0:43:11.538
<v Speaker 2>I would say the reason why they're losing games is

0:43:11.578 --> 0:43:12.298
<v Speaker 2>because he's turned.

0:43:12.378 --> 0:43:16.338
<v Speaker 4>Because yeah, I'm with doing that. It's not sustainable. But

0:43:16.818 --> 0:43:19.578
<v Speaker 4>he's four starts into his career. There were no expectations

0:43:19.618 --> 0:43:22.178
<v Speaker 4>of them making the Super Bowls here, but you gotta

0:43:22.218 --> 0:43:24.578
<v Speaker 4>see signs of improvement. You opened up by talking about, well,

0:43:24.618 --> 0:43:27.738
<v Speaker 4>what was this season really about? Do they a franchise quarterback?

0:43:28.058 --> 0:43:30.258
<v Speaker 4>I would add to that as a whole, especially from

0:43:30.298 --> 0:43:34.578
<v Speaker 4>the quarterback and the coaching staff, the quarterback, the people

0:43:34.698 --> 0:43:37.338
<v Speaker 4>you want to be here beyond this year. So you

0:43:37.378 --> 0:43:39.818
<v Speaker 4>can also throw in guys like Christian Zales. Yeah, you

0:43:39.898 --> 0:43:43.498
<v Speaker 4>can throw in a guy like like uh White, the

0:43:43.578 --> 0:43:46.658
<v Speaker 4>young receivers even like even the guys that aren't playing

0:43:46.698 --> 0:43:48.978
<v Speaker 4>well but ideally are part of this core moving forward.

0:43:50.258 --> 0:43:51.978
<v Speaker 4>And Alex van Pelt is a big part of this too.

0:43:52.658 --> 0:43:55.498
<v Speaker 4>Are you better in December and January than you were

0:43:55.538 --> 0:43:57.857
<v Speaker 4>in September? That doesn't mean it has to look great,

0:43:58.178 --> 0:44:00.618
<v Speaker 4>but is it? And the growth isn't gonna be linear.

0:44:00.738 --> 0:44:02.978
<v Speaker 4>Maybe two steps forward, one step back, but like, at

0:44:02.978 --> 0:44:04.818
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, are they better at the

0:44:04.898 --> 0:44:06.658
<v Speaker 4>end of the year than they are now. So Drake

0:44:06.738 --> 0:44:09.338
<v Speaker 4>being where he is right now, the turnovers are concerning,

0:44:09.418 --> 0:44:12.498
<v Speaker 4>but fine, cut them down. Same thing for Alex man Pelt.

0:44:12.858 --> 0:44:16.898
<v Speaker 4>I do understand to an extent if the offense is

0:44:16.978 --> 0:44:18.898
<v Speaker 4>a little more stripped down at this point because you're

0:44:18.898 --> 0:44:21.658
<v Speaker 4>trying to ease the kid in. Yeah, you can't run

0:44:21.698 --> 0:44:24.018
<v Speaker 4>a striped down offense for twelve games, right, so it's

0:44:24.098 --> 0:44:26.778
<v Speaker 4>been four so far. I don't as I've seen some

0:44:26.818 --> 0:44:28.378
<v Speaker 4>people talk about the play calling, and you just kind

0:44:28.418 --> 0:44:31.178
<v Speaker 4>of talked about it. If the planner early was we're

0:44:31.218 --> 0:44:33.538
<v Speaker 4>gonna keep it pretty black and white for him through

0:44:33.578 --> 0:44:36.578
<v Speaker 4>the first month, just to get him going. I understand that.

0:44:36.658 --> 0:44:38.818
<v Speaker 4>I know it's frustrated to watch. I understand that. I

0:44:38.898 --> 0:44:41.858
<v Speaker 4>don't think he like, Okay, he's checked the box for

0:44:41.978 --> 0:44:45.058
<v Speaker 4>the black and white stuff. Let's start mixing in some color, right,

0:44:45.178 --> 0:44:47.698
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's let's let's get the So my question is

0:44:47.858 --> 0:44:50.658
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you like my it's I feel like,

0:44:50.818 --> 0:44:52.938
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but like,

0:44:53.018 --> 0:44:55.338
<v Speaker 4>I feel like some people harp way too much on

0:44:55.418 --> 0:44:58.898
<v Speaker 4>the actual sequencing of play calls, Like I think that's important.

0:44:59.018 --> 0:45:01.258
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he like runs the ball too much on first down,

0:45:01.378 --> 0:45:05.058
<v Speaker 2>or my bigger problem with Van Pelt right now is

0:45:05.178 --> 0:45:08.058
<v Speaker 2>play design, right, which are two different things, like what

0:45:08.178 --> 0:45:11.458
<v Speaker 2>are the actual designs or the concepts that you're running

0:45:12.138 --> 0:45:16.178
<v Speaker 2>in this offense and for this offense, because I'll just

0:45:16.258 --> 0:45:19.018
<v Speaker 2>give you another example that's not even Drake related, like

0:45:19.098 --> 0:45:21.898
<v Speaker 2>they're running a ton of outside zone still, yeah, and

0:45:21.978 --> 0:45:23.937
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think they have the horses up front,

0:45:24.098 --> 0:45:25.858
<v Speaker 2>or I don't really think that it fits for ma

0:45:25.898 --> 0:45:29.417
<v Speaker 2>Andre Stevenson all that well to be so outside zone.

0:45:29.578 --> 0:45:32.058
<v Speaker 4>So just let me see it develop, like, let me

0:45:32.178 --> 0:45:34.458
<v Speaker 4>see it progressively get better as the year goes on.

0:45:34.578 --> 0:45:36.738
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of what I'm looking for here. And you know,

0:45:36.818 --> 0:45:38.138
<v Speaker 4>it's a good week to start it. You know, he

0:45:38.258 --> 0:45:40.818
<v Speaker 4>had the first two starts. Are they gonna start ramping up?

0:45:40.938 --> 0:45:42.258
<v Speaker 4>He gets hurt, he didn't have a full week of

0:45:42.338 --> 0:45:46.498
<v Speaker 4>practice last week. Okay, Like he's good, And it'd be

0:45:46.538 --> 0:45:49.218
<v Speaker 4>great if I could say they have an offensive line set. Unfortunately,

0:45:49.258 --> 0:45:50.418
<v Speaker 4>we might not be able to say that.

0:45:50.698 --> 0:45:57.698
<v Speaker 2>He is Van Pelt capable of designing an offense that

0:45:57.938 --> 0:46:00.018
<v Speaker 2>factors in Drake's mobility, because.

0:45:59.778 --> 0:46:01.578
<v Speaker 4>It's just in just evolving the offense as a whole.

0:46:01.698 --> 0:46:05.018
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because right now I feel like Drake's mobility is

0:46:05.018 --> 0:46:08.337
<v Speaker 2>all out of structure, right it's all scrambles on drop back,

0:46:08.898 --> 0:46:11.898
<v Speaker 2>And the problem with that is that it's not really

0:46:13.098 --> 0:46:15.618
<v Speaker 2>yet and maybe it will in terms of game plan

0:46:15.738 --> 0:46:17.538
<v Speaker 2>and like now we have to rush him differently, or we.

0:46:17.618 --> 0:46:20.458
<v Speaker 4>Have to spy him or aren't spying yea, or even

0:46:20.458 --> 0:46:21.458
<v Speaker 4>already that that's.

0:46:21.338 --> 0:46:26.018
<v Speaker 2>A factor, but it's not building his mobility into the offense.

0:46:26.658 --> 0:46:29.338
<v Speaker 2>Like building his mobility into the offense is the stuff

0:46:29.338 --> 0:46:31.658
<v Speaker 2>that I was just talking about with Philly or what

0:46:31.778 --> 0:46:35.298
<v Speaker 2>the Washington commanders are doing with Jayden Daniels. That's using

0:46:35.898 --> 0:46:39.618
<v Speaker 2>his mobility as like a trump card, no pun intended, right,

0:46:40.098 --> 0:46:41.817
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that ability there.

0:46:41.898 --> 0:46:43.498
<v Speaker 4>And like I said last week, I agree with the

0:46:43.578 --> 0:46:46.538
<v Speaker 4>general consensus of we don't want to overrun him because

0:46:46.538 --> 0:46:49.578
<v Speaker 4>we don't want the physical toll. Like yeah, I'm I'm

0:46:49.698 --> 0:46:52.778
<v Speaker 4>all for airing on the side of run him not

0:46:53.018 --> 0:46:56.178
<v Speaker 4>enough first, run him too much. But they have some

0:46:56.378 --> 0:46:59.738
<v Speaker 4>room before they even get to like they're not even

0:46:59.898 --> 0:47:01.658
<v Speaker 4>close I think to that line right now, they can

0:47:01.698 --> 0:47:03.337
<v Speaker 4>afford to get a little closer to that line.

0:47:03.418 --> 0:47:06.058
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd run less, Like I really do, because

0:47:06.698 --> 0:47:09.898
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that it would always be it. You

0:47:10.138 --> 0:47:11.897
<v Speaker 2>think it's own read and you think of like Lamar

0:47:12.058 --> 0:47:13.898
<v Speaker 2>Jackson running the ball like in a game ten to

0:47:13.938 --> 0:47:16.458
<v Speaker 2>fifteen times, like in a playoff game or something like that,

0:47:17.018 --> 0:47:19.138
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that would necessarily be the case.

0:47:19.178 --> 0:47:22.858
<v Speaker 2>It's more just threatening the defense and making the defense

0:47:22.978 --> 0:47:26.738
<v Speaker 2>respect the fact that Drake Mays has the athleticism to

0:47:27.138 --> 0:47:29.378
<v Speaker 2>to make you pay on a run like that, and

0:47:29.698 --> 0:47:31.978
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to. Like last week, I watched the

0:47:32.098 --> 0:47:35.778
<v Speaker 2>Cardinals Bears game right on film. The Cardinals ran for

0:47:35.858 --> 0:47:39.018
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and thirteen yards against this Bard's defense, who

0:47:39.378 --> 0:47:42.018
<v Speaker 2>are terrible against the run, which we'll get to later

0:47:42.138 --> 0:47:44.338
<v Speaker 2>in the show. But they ran for two hundred and

0:47:44.418 --> 0:47:46.858
<v Speaker 2>thirteen yards on the ground. We want to guess how

0:47:46.898 --> 0:47:50.698
<v Speaker 2>many of them were by Kyler Murray? A lot six

0:47:51.738 --> 0:47:53.058
<v Speaker 2>oh six.

0:47:53.298 --> 0:47:54.498
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So you should be able to run the ball

0:47:54.538 --> 0:47:54.857
<v Speaker 4>this week.

0:47:55.178 --> 0:47:58.138
<v Speaker 2>So Kyler Murray ran for six yards in the entire game.

0:47:59.338 --> 0:48:03.258
<v Speaker 2>But Kyler Murray's legs are factors on these plays that

0:48:03.298 --> 0:48:05.898
<v Speaker 2>they're running, right, Like his threat of being able to

0:48:05.978 --> 0:48:08.498
<v Speaker 2>keep the football is a factor, but he's not actually

0:48:08.578 --> 0:48:11.818
<v Speaker 2>going out there and literally keeping the football, So I

0:48:11.898 --> 0:48:16.218
<v Speaker 2>think that that's big and it will help him, I believe,

0:48:16.298 --> 0:48:18.938
<v Speaker 2>cut down on turnovers and cut down on some of

0:48:18.978 --> 0:48:21.498
<v Speaker 2>the mistakes because it's a different type of offense, right

0:48:21.538 --> 0:48:24.658
<v Speaker 2>It's an unconventional type of offense. I just think their

0:48:24.738 --> 0:48:28.618
<v Speaker 2>offense is too old school right now for what they have.

0:48:28.978 --> 0:48:31.058
<v Speaker 2>Personnel wise, you got it, there's got to be some

0:48:31.178 --> 0:48:34.058
<v Speaker 2>more creativity and some more bells and whistles to what

0:48:34.178 --> 0:48:35.978
<v Speaker 2>they're doing, and there just.

0:48:36.058 --> 0:48:36.578
<v Speaker 4>Isn't right now.

0:48:36.618 --> 0:48:38.778
<v Speaker 2>And you have a young quarterback as now trying to

0:48:38.818 --> 0:48:42.178
<v Speaker 2>read through progressions and id coverage and keep himself protected

0:48:42.338 --> 0:48:44.698
<v Speaker 2>and all these different types of things. I don't blame

0:48:44.818 --> 0:48:47.538
<v Speaker 2>him for just defaulting to running on some of these

0:48:47.618 --> 0:48:50.978
<v Speaker 2>plays because it's like nobody's open the line, I got

0:48:51.138 --> 0:48:53.258
<v Speaker 2>pressure coming off the left side, Like what else am

0:48:53.298 --> 0:48:53.938
<v Speaker 2>I gonna do here?

0:48:54.178 --> 0:48:55.058
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm just gonna run?

0:48:55.658 --> 0:48:57.817
<v Speaker 2>And I get where his head is at with all

0:48:57.898 --> 0:49:02.498
<v Speaker 2>of that, and I think managing it almost helps, Like

0:49:02.578 --> 0:49:06.258
<v Speaker 2>I think incorporating it into the offense almost helps him

0:49:06.298 --> 0:49:08.138
<v Speaker 2>manage scrambling, Like, well.

0:49:08.058 --> 0:49:09.498
<v Speaker 4>How it makes sense? Do it less?

0:49:10.138 --> 0:49:12.018
<v Speaker 2>The last thing I want to say about Drake May

0:49:12.298 --> 0:49:13.818
<v Speaker 2>and then we can do three up, three down and

0:49:13.898 --> 0:49:17.378
<v Speaker 2>open up the phone lines and the emails. The big

0:49:17.458 --> 0:49:20.178
<v Speaker 2>thing that I was really impressed with and have been

0:49:20.218 --> 0:49:25.857
<v Speaker 2>impressed with throughout is his ability right now to throw

0:49:25.978 --> 0:49:28.578
<v Speaker 2>in in the pocket is better maybe that I expect.

0:49:28.658 --> 0:49:31.738
<v Speaker 2>This might be the one area where I'm actually I

0:49:31.858 --> 0:49:37.058
<v Speaker 2>think that was maybe exceeding expectations. I would say below expect.

0:49:37.178 --> 0:49:38.938
<v Speaker 2>I did not expect him to turn the ball over

0:49:39.178 --> 0:49:43.098
<v Speaker 2>this much. He didn't play like this in college.

0:49:44.258 --> 0:49:44.618
<v Speaker 4>Anymore.

0:49:44.698 --> 0:49:45.658
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fair.

0:49:46.018 --> 0:49:48.777
<v Speaker 4>He's in the AFC, so it's close. But that's fair.

0:49:49.298 --> 0:49:49.938
<v Speaker 4>That's the bills.

0:49:50.258 --> 0:49:52.178
<v Speaker 2>But you know, in terms of the one thing that

0:49:52.178 --> 0:49:54.618
<v Speaker 2>I think might be a little bit better than expected

0:49:54.778 --> 0:49:57.778
<v Speaker 2>is you know, just some of the completions for example

0:49:57.818 --> 0:50:00.418
<v Speaker 2>to Hunter Henry in this game, where like they bring

0:50:00.538 --> 0:50:03.338
<v Speaker 2>pressure and he just knows exactly where he's going with

0:50:03.418 --> 0:50:06.018
<v Speaker 2>the football to beat pressure. You know, sighted just hot

0:50:06.098 --> 0:50:09.018
<v Speaker 2>wrote boom ball is out like top of the drop

0:50:09.538 --> 0:50:14.258
<v Speaker 2>on time, really iding you know, pressure and rotation really well.

0:50:14.858 --> 0:50:17.658
<v Speaker 2>That type of stuff is is is pretty next level

0:50:17.938 --> 0:50:21.178
<v Speaker 2>for a young quarterback to be doing that kind of

0:50:21.218 --> 0:50:24.738
<v Speaker 2>stuff already is really impressive. The fourth down throw it

0:50:25.338 --> 0:50:26.938
<v Speaker 2>the gotta have it for it down late in the

0:50:26.978 --> 0:50:31.138
<v Speaker 2>game to Hunter Henry, Like, that's conventional from the p offense.

0:50:31.218 --> 0:50:33.978
<v Speaker 2>That's not the last play of the fourth quarter right

0:50:33.978 --> 0:50:36.897
<v Speaker 2>where he's running around like a crazy person. That that's

0:50:37.378 --> 0:50:39.418
<v Speaker 2>a really good, nice conventional player. I thought he made

0:50:39.458 --> 0:50:42.738
<v Speaker 2>a really great throw, not the crossing route, not the

0:50:43.138 --> 0:50:45.938
<v Speaker 2>highlight throw, but the one to pop Douglas on the

0:50:45.978 --> 0:50:48.098
<v Speaker 2>little out out of empty where he kind of dropped

0:50:48.098 --> 0:50:49.778
<v Speaker 2>the arm angle a little bit and just sort of

0:50:49.818 --> 0:50:50.857
<v Speaker 2>put it out there for him.

0:50:51.178 --> 0:50:52.258
<v Speaker 4>A really nice throw.

0:50:52.338 --> 0:50:55.298
<v Speaker 2>Like those are the conventional offense types of throws that

0:50:55.458 --> 0:50:58.578
<v Speaker 2>give you a lot of positive vibes about Drake. All right,

0:50:58.858 --> 0:50:59.578
<v Speaker 2>did you do three up?

0:50:59.618 --> 0:51:01.018
<v Speaker 4>Three down? I did two and four?

0:51:01.098 --> 0:51:03.658
<v Speaker 2>But yes, you did it though I did it, all right,

0:51:03.818 --> 0:51:04.018
<v Speaker 2>you go.

0:51:04.818 --> 0:51:06.378
<v Speaker 4>I've been doing it like I do it every week.

0:51:06.378 --> 0:51:09.418
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why this is a thing. First up,

0:51:09.858 --> 0:51:13.538
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna sound weird. Ramandre Stevenson, outside of what he

0:51:13.778 --> 0:51:17.818
<v Speaker 4>like the running game, is struggling as a whole again.

0:51:17.898 --> 0:51:21.338
<v Speaker 4>He is I think seventy six yards total in the

0:51:21.418 --> 0:51:26.098
<v Speaker 4>last three weeks, eighty three before contact or eighty three

0:51:26.178 --> 0:51:29.777
<v Speaker 4>after contact. Yeah, so we're still on this thing where

0:51:31.178 --> 0:51:35.418
<v Speaker 4>he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage regularly. I

0:51:35.418 --> 0:51:37.058
<v Speaker 4>think he's doing as much as he can. But when

0:51:37.098 --> 0:51:39.458
<v Speaker 4>you look at what he did catching the football, when

0:51:39.498 --> 0:51:41.178
<v Speaker 4>you look at what he did as a pass protector,

0:51:41.498 --> 0:51:43.458
<v Speaker 4>Drake had that one scramble late. Was it on the

0:51:43.538 --> 0:51:46.858
<v Speaker 4>final drive of regulation or an overtime where it should

0:51:46.858 --> 0:51:49.337
<v Speaker 4>have been like a three or four yard scramble, gets

0:51:49.338 --> 0:51:51.378
<v Speaker 4>out in front, set a nice block in overtime and

0:51:51.458 --> 0:51:53.377
<v Speaker 4>it ends up being like I think, a fifteen yard gain.

0:51:54.218 --> 0:51:57.378
<v Speaker 4>Vermondra Stevens his usage rates up over fifty percent, Like

0:51:57.738 --> 0:52:00.458
<v Speaker 4>he's still doing a ton for them, And I know

0:52:00.498 --> 0:52:02.058
<v Speaker 4>people are gonna roll their eyes. How are you having

0:52:02.058 --> 0:52:04.258
<v Speaker 4>a running back when they can't run the ball. They

0:52:04.338 --> 0:52:06.338
<v Speaker 4>need to run the football better. I don't if we

0:52:06.418 --> 0:52:09.418
<v Speaker 4>were to list the biggest issues with their inability to

0:52:09.498 --> 0:52:11.818
<v Speaker 4>run the ball, I don't know that ramondra Stevenson in

0:52:11.858 --> 0:52:14.258
<v Speaker 4>the top three right now. Like he's doing his part,

0:52:14.538 --> 0:52:17.098
<v Speaker 4>He's doing as much as he can. He's finding other

0:52:17.138 --> 0:52:21.018
<v Speaker 4>ways to contribute. He was good for them in this game. Yeah.

0:52:21.138 --> 0:52:21.618
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

0:52:21.978 --> 0:52:25.218
<v Speaker 2>The play the underhand flip. We talked about it deefly earlier.

0:52:25.858 --> 0:52:29.458
<v Speaker 2>That's just a great individual play by Ramondre Stevenson too,

0:52:29.578 --> 0:52:31.777
<v Speaker 2>Like it's a great play by Drake obviously as well,

0:52:32.298 --> 0:52:34.978
<v Speaker 2>but he takes out the blitzing linebacker, chops down. The

0:52:35.018 --> 0:52:39.018
<v Speaker 2>blitzing linebacker gets back up off the ground after chopping

0:52:39.058 --> 0:52:42.138
<v Speaker 2>the guy down, makes himself available to the quarterback and

0:52:42.338 --> 0:52:44.258
<v Speaker 2>is the outlet for Drake may on the play with

0:52:44.658 --> 0:52:47.337
<v Speaker 2>under pressure like that. That's a really heads up play

0:52:47.418 --> 0:52:49.898
<v Speaker 2>by him too, And obviously the touchdown at the end

0:52:49.898 --> 0:52:52.138
<v Speaker 2>of regulations are really heads up play by him as well,

0:52:52.218 --> 0:52:54.098
<v Speaker 2>and just a good play just to box out the

0:52:54.138 --> 0:52:57.258
<v Speaker 2>guy and make the catch. So I understand where you're

0:52:57.258 --> 0:53:00.178
<v Speaker 2>coming from with Vermandre. I just mentioned him. My number

0:53:00.178 --> 0:53:02.418
<v Speaker 2>one up again was Hunter Henry. I just think that

0:53:02.498 --> 0:53:05.338
<v Speaker 2>he's been one of their best players overall this season.

0:53:05.898 --> 0:53:09.698
<v Speaker 2>Seven catches on eight targets fifty six yards, just whenever

0:53:09.778 --> 0:53:11.458
<v Speaker 2>they really need to have it, you know, the fourth

0:53:11.498 --> 0:53:14.698
<v Speaker 2>down play I just mentioned earlier that now was the

0:53:14.778 --> 0:53:17.578
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Henry. A couple of really good throws over the

0:53:17.618 --> 0:53:20.538
<v Speaker 2>middle against blitzes where he's just right where he needs

0:53:20.578 --> 0:53:23.178
<v Speaker 2>to be, right where the quarterback is expecting him to

0:53:23.258 --> 0:53:26.498
<v Speaker 2>be an on time. Just such a quarterback as best

0:53:26.538 --> 0:53:29.498
<v Speaker 2>friend type of player for a young QB. I just

0:53:29.578 --> 0:53:32.777
<v Speaker 2>think that if I had to rank the Patriots' best

0:53:32.818 --> 0:53:36.337
<v Speaker 2>players on the year. I might have Hunter Henry as

0:53:36.378 --> 0:53:39.458
<v Speaker 2>their best overall player right now. He's certainly been pretty

0:53:39.498 --> 0:53:40.978
<v Speaker 2>much the only consistent on offense.

0:53:41.098 --> 0:53:43.338
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's saying something. Yeah, he was good in

0:53:43.418 --> 0:53:46.098
<v Speaker 4>this game. He's been really good. Yep. Next again, this

0:53:46.178 --> 0:53:48.857
<v Speaker 4>is gonna sound weird to some people. Jilawnie tovai better

0:53:48.938 --> 0:53:51.937
<v Speaker 4>game is the second game. He did have one play.

0:53:52.098 --> 0:53:54.178
<v Speaker 4>He had two plays where he got shook out of

0:53:54.218 --> 0:53:55.498
<v Speaker 4>his shoes. One of them ended up coming back on

0:53:55.538 --> 0:53:58.178
<v Speaker 4>a penalty, but made a couple stops against the run,

0:53:58.498 --> 0:54:01.178
<v Speaker 4>was all over the field, made nice play on that interception. Yeah.

0:54:01.538 --> 0:54:03.777
<v Speaker 4>I just it's trending in the right direction with him,

0:54:03.778 --> 0:54:05.938
<v Speaker 4>which is good because that I don't know that that

0:54:06.058 --> 0:54:08.258
<v Speaker 4>totally fixes the defense, but that would be a big help.

0:54:08.298 --> 0:54:10.258
<v Speaker 4>If he can start getting comfortable more off the ball.

0:54:10.498 --> 0:54:11.897
<v Speaker 4>I didn't think we were going to see that either,

0:54:11.938 --> 0:54:13.618
<v Speaker 4>but he's starting to look more comfortable in that role.

0:54:14.098 --> 0:54:16.538
<v Speaker 4>So encouraging sign that he's maybe starting to turn.

0:54:16.458 --> 0:54:19.218
<v Speaker 2>Down Definitely better, Definitely a step in the right direction.

0:54:19.258 --> 0:54:21.258
<v Speaker 2>I thought he gave up some plays too in this game.

0:54:21.418 --> 0:54:23.417
<v Speaker 2>Thirty two yarder on the fort opening drive.

0:54:23.458 --> 0:54:24.418
<v Speaker 4>It was a little bit him.

0:54:24.858 --> 0:54:27.018
<v Speaker 2>I gave up a twenty four yard catch and coverage,

0:54:27.458 --> 0:54:29.618
<v Speaker 2>but he also made some more splash plays this week,

0:54:29.698 --> 0:54:29.938
<v Speaker 2>so he.

0:54:30.458 --> 0:54:33.258
<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't be incoverage. Like, I just don't necessarily fault him

0:54:33.258 --> 0:54:34.898
<v Speaker 4>for that because he is not a player that should

0:54:34.898 --> 0:54:35.378
<v Speaker 4>be in coverage.

0:54:35.458 --> 0:54:37.538
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't blame him for it that much either.

0:54:38.098 --> 0:54:40.058
<v Speaker 2>My next one, you're not going to believe this. I

0:54:40.098 --> 0:54:44.178
<v Speaker 2>went with special teams Marcus Jones. I thought Marcus Jones,

0:54:45.218 --> 0:54:48.338
<v Speaker 2>his forty yard return and his twenty five yard return

0:54:48.418 --> 0:54:51.658
<v Speaker 2>both set up scoring drives for the Patriots without that

0:54:51.778 --> 0:54:54.178
<v Speaker 2>twenty five yard return at the end of regulation that

0:54:54.298 --> 0:54:56.738
<v Speaker 2>got them to the fifty yard line and started that

0:54:56.898 --> 0:54:58.777
<v Speaker 2>drive in plus field position. Like, I don't know if

0:54:58.818 --> 0:55:00.458
<v Speaker 2>they score on that drive.

0:55:00.698 --> 0:55:02.498
<v Speaker 4>Talk about in a game that had its share of

0:55:02.578 --> 0:55:05.578
<v Speaker 4>dumb coaching decisions. Yeah, hunting the pall the Marcus Jones

0:55:05.658 --> 0:55:09.578
<v Speaker 4>right there. It's not quite Matt Dodge DeShawn Jackson Raclet

0:55:09.578 --> 0:55:12.458
<v Speaker 4>to metal Life, but there's some similarity.

0:55:12.578 --> 0:55:15.618
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what the hell was Brian Callahan thing? Yeah, No,

0:55:15.778 --> 0:55:19.618
<v Speaker 2>it was a He was impactful on returns in this game,

0:55:19.978 --> 0:55:22.738
<v Speaker 2>and he's a weapon. He's a weapon. He's on the

0:55:22.818 --> 0:55:24.658
<v Speaker 2>list right now for me, you know, not not a

0:55:24.738 --> 0:55:28.098
<v Speaker 2>ton of guys that really deserve Pro Bowl, you know,

0:55:28.178 --> 0:55:31.098
<v Speaker 2>sort of recognition or potential. But right now, I know

0:55:31.258 --> 0:55:34.178
<v Speaker 2>Cliff Raymond's having a huge return season for Detroit. But

0:55:34.578 --> 0:55:37.538
<v Speaker 2>if Marcus Jones mixes in a return touchdown here at

0:55:37.618 --> 0:55:39.978
<v Speaker 2>some point, I think he has a really good chance

0:55:40.018 --> 0:55:42.698
<v Speaker 2>of being a Pro Bowl returner. Yeah, all right, who's

0:55:42.818 --> 0:55:44.218
<v Speaker 2>got you got one more?

0:55:44.338 --> 0:55:47.498
<v Speaker 4>No? You only did two? All right, honorable mention for me,

0:55:47.578 --> 0:55:47.937
<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

0:55:47.978 --> 0:55:49.898
<v Speaker 2>I always say fully up, just because it's hard to

0:55:50.258 --> 0:55:52.698
<v Speaker 2>put anybody in the run defense fully up. I thought

0:55:52.738 --> 0:55:57.498
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Jennings was good in this game. Five stuffs, four hurries.

0:55:57.618 --> 0:56:00.218
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's really big production. I think he's doing

0:56:00.338 --> 0:56:03.418
<v Speaker 2>his job on the defense and in the run game specifically,

0:56:03.498 --> 0:56:06.098
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really seem like the runs that are to his

0:56:06.218 --> 0:56:08.458
<v Speaker 2>side he's getting like crack blocked and things like that,

0:56:08.658 --> 0:56:11.817
<v Speaker 2>you know, not necessarily his fault. So I would say

0:56:11.858 --> 0:56:13.898
<v Speaker 2>that he's one of the few guys that is pulling

0:56:14.418 --> 0:56:16.498
<v Speaker 2>his weight on the defensive side of the ball. All right,

0:56:16.538 --> 0:56:19.618
<v Speaker 2>let's go to the downs, because there were certainly a

0:56:19.618 --> 0:56:20.218
<v Speaker 2>lot of choices.

0:56:20.338 --> 0:56:22.498
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, we already did two of these off

0:56:22.538 --> 0:56:25.338
<v Speaker 4>the top. So just the coaching. Ye whether it be

0:56:25.578 --> 0:56:27.178
<v Speaker 4>the or there's one thing we didn't cover. So we

0:56:27.218 --> 0:56:29.178
<v Speaker 4>talked about the end of the half. Yep, we talked

0:56:29.178 --> 0:56:31.938
<v Speaker 4>about the win thing. We talked about changing the offensive line,

0:56:31.978 --> 0:56:33.898
<v Speaker 4>which I had Laiden Robinson, is it down. You just

0:56:34.018 --> 0:56:37.258
<v Speaker 4>got bullied out of that game. We're just staying on

0:56:37.338 --> 0:56:40.138
<v Speaker 4>the the uh, not going for two at the end

0:56:40.138 --> 0:56:40.578
<v Speaker 4>of regulation.

0:56:40.738 --> 0:56:42.938
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good point. I'm glad you brought that up.

0:56:43.858 --> 0:56:46.817
<v Speaker 2>I hear both sides of it. For what it's worth,

0:56:46.858 --> 0:56:49.738
<v Speaker 2>the Nerds supported their decision to kick. I could not

0:56:49.938 --> 0:56:53.258
<v Speaker 2>believe that they actually did it. They said to kick

0:56:53.298 --> 0:56:54.938
<v Speaker 2>again for Tampa. Yeah.

0:56:55.178 --> 0:56:57.578
<v Speaker 4>I'm being dead serious when I say this. I always

0:56:57.578 --> 0:56:59.618
<v Speaker 4>thought the little graphic that comes up that says go

0:56:59.778 --> 0:57:02.178
<v Speaker 4>or kick, Yeah, I always thought they were making up

0:57:02.218 --> 0:57:06.338
<v Speaker 4>the number because I had never seen I had never

0:57:06.418 --> 0:57:08.618
<v Speaker 4>seen that graphic say kicked before in my life. I

0:57:08.778 --> 0:57:11.618
<v Speaker 4>had never seen that until that game. I was shocked.

0:57:11.698 --> 0:57:13.978
<v Speaker 4>I always thought they just they only had one version

0:57:13.978 --> 0:57:15.898
<v Speaker 4>of graphic that said go because they were trying to

0:57:15.938 --> 0:57:18.378
<v Speaker 4>further the analytics agenda. I didn't even know a kick

0:57:18.458 --> 0:57:20.338
<v Speaker 4>version of that graphic exists. Existing.

0:57:20.458 --> 0:57:22.378
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they would. They said it was close, it

0:57:22.458 --> 0:57:25.338
<v Speaker 2>was like three percentage points, but it definitely favored kick.

0:57:25.418 --> 0:57:28.218
<v Speaker 2>And my guess is that that was a big part

0:57:28.258 --> 0:57:30.938
<v Speaker 2>of the decision making. I know that irks you probably

0:57:30.978 --> 0:57:33.538
<v Speaker 2>inerks a lot of people that they're if.

0:57:33.458 --> 0:57:35.578
<v Speaker 4>They arrive at the right decision, they arrive at the

0:57:35.618 --> 0:57:38.458
<v Speaker 4>right decision. Well, no, the analytics people can't get mad

0:57:38.858 --> 0:57:41.538
<v Speaker 4>if if blindly following the math is the answer and

0:57:41.578 --> 0:57:43.378
<v Speaker 4>the math goes against what they want because a lot

0:57:43.378 --> 0:57:45.818
<v Speaker 4>of the analytics people don't want analytics. They're just impatient

0:57:45.938 --> 0:57:48.258
<v Speaker 4>and go for too. I want to see gopher to

0:57:48.698 --> 0:57:50.978
<v Speaker 4>well over time. No, you have the ball where you're

0:57:50.978 --> 0:57:52.898
<v Speaker 4>not like, No, that they're just I think a lot

0:57:52.938 --> 0:57:54.898
<v Speaker 4>of the analytics communities is just impatient and they don't

0:57:54.978 --> 0:57:58.618
<v Speaker 4>like the hard nosed football that involves, you know, establishing

0:57:58.658 --> 0:57:59.898
<v Speaker 4>to run multiple players whatever.

0:58:00.018 --> 0:58:02.458
<v Speaker 2>But is this because they're nerds? Is that what you're saying?

0:58:02.578 --> 0:58:06.578
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I don't really get that, but like I actually

0:58:06.618 --> 0:58:09.618
<v Speaker 4>went back and looked because I regardless of whether to

0:58:09.658 --> 0:58:11.098
<v Speaker 4>go for it or not, and I actually there's a

0:58:11.138 --> 0:58:14.978
<v Speaker 4>fail fair football conversation be at here. Math aside. I

0:58:15.098 --> 0:58:17.378
<v Speaker 4>do understand the argument to go for two. I think

0:58:17.418 --> 0:58:20.018
<v Speaker 4>it's a flavor thing. I won't say somebody's wrong if

0:58:20.058 --> 0:58:22.858
<v Speaker 4>they say they should go for two, I would kick it,

0:58:22.978 --> 0:58:26.258
<v Speaker 4>but I get it's a real, like good, legitimate football debate.

0:58:26.698 --> 0:58:29.218
<v Speaker 4>What I would say is the amount of and this

0:58:29.298 --> 0:58:31.978
<v Speaker 4>goes to the Tampa game too, the amount of people

0:58:32.178 --> 0:58:37.218
<v Speaker 4>surprised that the Patriots didn't go for two. That was

0:58:38.098 --> 0:58:40.698
<v Speaker 4>surprising to me that if you're saying, well, what do

0:58:40.738 --> 0:58:42.058
<v Speaker 4>you mean you don't go for two? What are you

0:58:42.138 --> 0:58:44.498
<v Speaker 4>talking about? I went back and looked the idea that

0:58:44.578 --> 0:58:46.538
<v Speaker 4>it's like some given in the NFL that you go

0:58:46.698 --> 0:58:50.258
<v Speaker 4>for two. There is not the case, and it never

0:58:50.338 --> 0:58:52.298
<v Speaker 4>has been. It's a college football thing. So all the

0:58:52.298 --> 0:58:54.298
<v Speaker 4>people that tell me college football is two amateur and

0:58:54.378 --> 0:58:55.538
<v Speaker 4>then come at me and say you should go for

0:58:55.618 --> 0:58:58.658
<v Speaker 4>two there, Well, there's one hundred and twenty something teams

0:58:58.698 --> 0:59:00.298
<v Speaker 4>that are doing that, especially if you're on the road.

0:59:00.978 --> 0:59:02.978
<v Speaker 4>And I went back to twenty fifteen because that's when

0:59:02.978 --> 0:59:05.778
<v Speaker 4>they moved the pat back. There have been six, well

0:59:05.818 --> 0:59:09.338
<v Speaker 4>now seven instances, but before the Patriots, six instances where

0:59:09.378 --> 0:59:11.858
<v Speaker 4>a team scored a touchdown in the final ten seconds

0:59:11.858 --> 0:59:14.098
<v Speaker 4>of the game to make it a one point game

0:59:14.498 --> 0:59:17.218
<v Speaker 4>pending the extra point of the You get what I'm saying.

0:59:18.018 --> 0:59:21.178
<v Speaker 4>Of those six teams, four kicked the extra point. Okay,

0:59:21.298 --> 0:59:24.018
<v Speaker 4>Now three of the four lost in overtime, so maybe

0:59:24.058 --> 0:59:26.138
<v Speaker 4>you look at that and whatever, we'll change their minds.

0:59:26.178 --> 0:59:28.458
<v Speaker 4>Now one team went for one team got the two

0:59:28.498 --> 0:59:29.898
<v Speaker 4>that went for it, the other one didn't. Now there's

0:59:29.938 --> 0:59:32.938
<v Speaker 4>one of them Baltimore right against Kansas City. I honestly

0:59:32.978 --> 0:59:34.658
<v Speaker 4>think it was the Chargers against Kansas City. There's a

0:59:34.698 --> 0:59:36.618
<v Speaker 4>Kansas City and there I remember that was the charge.

0:59:36.938 --> 0:59:39.418
<v Speaker 4>The point. These are all different teams with different circumstances.

0:59:39.458 --> 0:59:41.698
<v Speaker 4>This is why I hate the man that shouldn't inform

0:59:42.018 --> 0:59:45.698
<v Speaker 4>what the Patriots did. But what it does inform is saying, well,

0:59:45.738 --> 0:59:48.858
<v Speaker 4>everybody goes for two. There they don't. They really don't.

0:59:49.178 --> 0:59:53.098
<v Speaker 2>So my my, my feeling on the Gopher two thing

0:59:53.818 --> 0:59:58.258
<v Speaker 2>is if they had scored the touchdown on a conventional play,

0:59:58.818 --> 1:00:03.818
<v Speaker 2>not a eleven point seven to five second ridiculous, uh,

1:00:04.098 --> 1:00:07.338
<v Speaker 2>you know, circus play. Like if they had scored on

1:00:07.458 --> 1:00:13.098
<v Speaker 2>a conventional play, then I would have felt more inclined

1:00:13.098 --> 1:00:15.498
<v Speaker 2>to go for two. Not because of the fatigue factor

1:00:15.578 --> 1:00:18.698
<v Speaker 2>as much, but I just would have felt if I

1:00:18.818 --> 1:00:20.498
<v Speaker 2>was drawed, Mayo, I would have felt a little bit

1:00:20.498 --> 1:00:22.858
<v Speaker 2>more confident in actually getting the two points right, you

1:00:22.898 --> 1:00:25.298
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, Okay, we just ran a play.

1:00:25.818 --> 1:00:28.098
<v Speaker 2>It just worked a perfection and we you know, he

1:00:28.218 --> 1:00:30.138
<v Speaker 2>hit the back of his foot and hit and hunter

1:00:30.138 --> 1:00:32.538
<v Speaker 2>Head real wide open walking into the end zone on

1:00:32.618 --> 1:00:35.538
<v Speaker 2>the touchdown, Like what we we can we can do this,

1:00:35.658 --> 1:00:38.258
<v Speaker 2>we have this down asking to go for two there,

1:00:38.298 --> 1:00:40.698
<v Speaker 2>I think is is asking a lot of Drake may

1:00:40.778 --> 1:00:42.698
<v Speaker 2>because now you're he's got to go back out there

1:00:42.978 --> 1:00:45.498
<v Speaker 2>and probably do the same exact thing that he just did, right.

1:00:45.578 --> 1:00:47.738
<v Speaker 4>And And that's why you know, I always said, you've

1:00:47.778 --> 1:00:49.498
<v Speaker 4>heard me say this, Evan, when it comes to go

1:00:49.778 --> 1:00:52.778
<v Speaker 4>or not go, And this is why I can't stand

1:00:52.818 --> 1:00:56.178
<v Speaker 4>the math. The decision to go forward or not is

1:00:56.578 --> 1:00:58.058
<v Speaker 4>only as good as the play you call.

1:00:58.178 --> 1:01:00.138
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if they had if I had confidence, I

1:01:00.218 --> 1:01:02.258
<v Speaker 2>agree with you on the on that mostly, but like

1:01:02.338 --> 1:01:04.738
<v Speaker 2>even more now, like if I had confidence that they

1:01:04.818 --> 1:01:07.298
<v Speaker 2>had some like cheeky two point conversion play that was

1:01:07.338 --> 1:01:11.778
<v Speaker 2>actually gonna take everybody by surprising, not anything too like crazy,

1:01:11.858 --> 1:01:14.058
<v Speaker 2>but not like a trick play. I'm just saying, like,

1:01:14.178 --> 1:01:16.338
<v Speaker 2>you know, something like an RPO that we were just

1:01:16.418 --> 1:01:19.178
<v Speaker 2>talking about, or a roll out play or something that

1:01:19.418 --> 1:01:22.818
<v Speaker 2>was actually like oh wow, like they've practiced that clearly

1:01:23.098 --> 1:01:25.298
<v Speaker 2>a hundred times and like, you know, have it down.

1:01:25.898 --> 1:01:27.858
<v Speaker 2>Then I would have I would have been impressed. I

1:01:27.898 --> 1:01:30.338
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I was really expecting that, right.

1:01:30.298 --> 1:01:32.378
<v Speaker 4>Like, no, that's the thing. If they're looking at it

1:01:32.458 --> 1:01:34.138
<v Speaker 4>and look, it brings up a different issues. You should

1:01:34.138 --> 1:01:35.698
<v Speaker 4>go in every game with three or four two point

1:01:35.698 --> 1:01:38.258
<v Speaker 4>places you feel good about. But they struggled to get

1:01:38.298 --> 1:01:40.418
<v Speaker 4>the one yard earlier in the game. They were struggling

1:01:40.578 --> 1:01:42.578
<v Speaker 4>to get in. I can't run the ball right, they

1:01:42.618 --> 1:01:45.138
<v Speaker 4>were struggling to get in from the five earlier. It's like, yeah,

1:01:46.418 --> 1:01:48.338
<v Speaker 4>even if you're like, yeah, going for two here makes

1:01:48.338 --> 1:01:49.698
<v Speaker 4>a ton of sense, but we don't have a play

1:01:49.778 --> 1:01:51.658
<v Speaker 4>that we think can pick it up. Well, then what

1:01:51.778 --> 1:01:54.498
<v Speaker 4>you're just gonna lose the game out of pride in

1:01:54.578 --> 1:01:57.938
<v Speaker 4>the overall decision, Like I just the decision to go.

1:01:58.418 --> 1:01:59.938
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about the math. I care about what

1:02:00.098 --> 1:02:01.778
<v Speaker 4>is your play? How good do you feel about the

1:02:01.818 --> 1:02:04.178
<v Speaker 4>play you were calling? And I understand if they didn't

1:02:04.178 --> 1:02:05.898
<v Speaker 4>feel good about the play in that situation.

1:02:05.658 --> 1:02:08.338
<v Speaker 2>All right, what's your Because we both had coaching as

1:02:08.378 --> 1:02:11.418
<v Speaker 2>a as a doubt. So what's your next Jonathan Jones?

1:02:12.018 --> 1:02:14.138
<v Speaker 4>He just he I don't know if it's I know

1:02:14.218 --> 1:02:17.698
<v Speaker 4>he's dealing with injuries or age or whatever. Like they

1:02:17.778 --> 1:02:20.298
<v Speaker 4>were picking on him in this game, and he was struggling.

1:02:19.938 --> 1:02:24.098
<v Speaker 2>To step slow these days. Yeah, and look the touchdown

1:02:24.178 --> 1:02:26.858
<v Speaker 2>pass that he gave up to Westbrook and kna is

1:02:26.898 --> 1:02:28.818
<v Speaker 2>a tough route to cover. Circus were out in the

1:02:28.898 --> 1:02:29.338
<v Speaker 2>red zone.

1:02:29.378 --> 1:02:31.538
<v Speaker 4>And it's also guides much bigger than Yeah, and he.

1:02:31.578 --> 1:02:34.098
<v Speaker 2>Has the whole side of the field to get open, right, Like,

1:02:34.178 --> 1:02:36.898
<v Speaker 2>that's a tough route, uh, to cover for anybody. But

1:02:36.978 --> 1:02:40.178
<v Speaker 2>it does feel like the Houston game this game, like

1:02:40.298 --> 1:02:42.498
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Jones getting picked on a little bit. I think

1:02:42.538 --> 1:02:45.898
<v Speaker 2>I texted you this during the game actually about moving

1:02:45.978 --> 1:02:46.578
<v Speaker 2>him to safety.

1:02:46.618 --> 1:02:47.618
<v Speaker 4>It was the after.

1:02:49.018 --> 1:02:52.138
<v Speaker 2>Not this season. It's probably not the best time.

1:02:52.178 --> 1:02:54.058
<v Speaker 4>I might do it this season because their safety plays

1:02:54.098 --> 1:02:54.658
<v Speaker 4>not great either.

1:02:54.978 --> 1:02:58.498
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's one of those things where usually when a

1:02:58.538 --> 1:03:00.698
<v Speaker 2>player starts to lose a step and can't run with

1:03:00.818 --> 1:03:04.578
<v Speaker 2>receivers anymore at corner, you know, the conventional wisdom is

1:03:04.618 --> 1:03:08.258
<v Speaker 2>to then move them you can have a second Yeah, Yeah,

1:03:08.378 --> 1:03:11.738
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a potential move for him. All right,

1:03:12.658 --> 1:03:16.338
<v Speaker 2>So you had Jonathan Jones, so I had Michael Jordan

1:03:17.258 --> 1:03:21.218
<v Speaker 2>as my number two down. I thought Laden Robinson honorable

1:03:21.338 --> 1:03:24.138
<v Speaker 2>mention in this as well, but he didn't play as

1:03:24.218 --> 1:03:26.058
<v Speaker 2>much and it's not his fault that he was playing.

1:03:26.218 --> 1:03:29.818
<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you this, do you think so

1:03:29.938 --> 1:03:31.858
<v Speaker 4>they may to change on the interior, right? And Ben

1:03:31.898 --> 1:03:33.418
<v Speaker 4>Brown also had his worst game of the year, and

1:03:33.498 --> 1:03:35.338
<v Speaker 4>I know he'd been struggling last couple of weeks, but

1:03:35.418 --> 1:03:37.698
<v Speaker 4>this was such a drop off. And I actually I

1:03:37.778 --> 1:03:40.538
<v Speaker 4>want to add one honorable mention of the ups Jeffrey Simmons,

1:03:40.858 --> 1:03:43.538
<v Speaker 4>one of the most underrated players in the league. Yeah,

1:03:43.938 --> 1:03:44.778
<v Speaker 4>dude is a stud.

1:03:44.938 --> 1:03:46.138
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll get to that in a second.

1:03:46.498 --> 1:03:50.778
<v Speaker 4>But point B, do you think that it is related

1:03:51.178 --> 1:03:53.618
<v Speaker 4>that they made a change on the interior when the

1:03:53.698 --> 1:03:57.298
<v Speaker 4>interior had been working and other guys on the interior

1:03:57.378 --> 1:04:00.538
<v Speaker 4>started to struggle in addition to Leydon Robinson.

1:04:00.778 --> 1:04:03.098
<v Speaker 2>I will allow for the fact that that might be

1:04:03.498 --> 1:04:06.058
<v Speaker 2>a factor in all of this, but I would also

1:04:06.218 --> 1:04:09.898
<v Speaker 2>say that Michael Jordan, just to stick with him for

1:04:09.938 --> 1:04:14.098
<v Speaker 2>a second, his film has been on a decline for

1:04:14.218 --> 1:04:16.858
<v Speaker 2>about a month now, I would say, and all this

1:04:17.058 --> 1:04:19.538
<v Speaker 2>moving around that they're going to do on the offensive

1:04:19.618 --> 1:04:22.498
<v Speaker 2>line potentially for Sunday, that I know is going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a lot of heat, and I agree with some

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<v Speaker 2>of it to an extent, But at this point, it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely does feel like Michael Jordan is teetering on unplayable

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<v Speaker 2>for them on the offensive line, and I certainly understand

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<v Speaker 2>that Michael Jordan is not a part of their future

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<v Speaker 2>on the offensive line. So getting a guy like Leyden

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson or even city So who they hate, apparently getting

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<v Speaker 2>one of those two guys in.

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<v Speaker 4>There, not one of those two guys City So.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting one of those two guys in there just to

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<v Speaker 2>try to develop a younger player when the guy yet

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<v Speaker 2>you have, the veteran that you have starting isn't playing

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<v Speaker 2>well anyways, does make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they're going to get to that by moving

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<v Speaker 2>on WHENU to left guard and starting Robinson, maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make much sense.

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<v Speaker 4>But the idea of well, if.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's not gonna play well anyways, and let's just

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<v Speaker 2>handed to the kids that in theory I think I

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<v Speaker 2>can get.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think there's a chance they are holding out

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<v Speaker 4>and saying we'll make the change when cole Strange comes back.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like that idea, and I do think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, I know a lot of people have had

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<v Speaker 2>conversations about Cole Strange playing center. I definitely think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point that he's more needed at left guard than

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<v Speaker 2>he is at center. Now, Ben Brown was rough in

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<v Speaker 2>this game too, but I thought Ben Brown was fine

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<v Speaker 2>for what he is.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>My bigger complaint or problem with this whole thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>just to have the numbers for you, I had Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan with five quarterback pressures allowed in this game. The

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<v Speaker 2>bigger problem that I had with this game. And this

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<v Speaker 2>goes back, you know, years and years with Belichick in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, like there's there's certain guys we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, not to talk about Bill. Let's we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this all the time, Tuesday players, right, who's

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<v Speaker 2>the Tuesday players on the opponent? You get into the

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<v Speaker 2>game plan meeting, you get the coaches together, you say,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the one guy on defense for the Tennessee Titans

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<v Speaker 2>or the two guys on defense for the Tennessee Titans

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<v Speaker 2>that we cannot allow wreck this game, that we can't

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<v Speaker 2>let it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Jeffrey Simmons. But the way Jiraw talked about it

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<v Speaker 4>after the game, talking about making surprise right, which who's

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<v Speaker 4>the first first player drawd Mail brought up on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 4>when he broke down to Jeffrey Simmons. So when you

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<v Speaker 4>come into this game, it's not even like lineup is

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<v Speaker 4>number one. We've we've already gotten over that, right, We've

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<v Speaker 4>already gone over that. I should say the lineup is

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<v Speaker 4>a big part of it, but I would also just

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<v Speaker 4>say the pass protection plans a big part of it

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Like there's no reason, you know, Tovandre Sweat's

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<v Speaker 4>a decent player against the run, he's excellent, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>not a pass rusher. So there's really no reason that

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Simmons should have ever been one on one in

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<v Speaker 4>this game. Like you slide the line to Jeffrey Simmons,

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<v Speaker 4>it's very easy to do. The center is the midpoint

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<v Speaker 4>of the offensive line. You slide half slide one way,

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<v Speaker 4>you man to man the other side, right, so you

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<v Speaker 4>have three guys sliding and you have two guys man

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<v Speaker 4>to man on the other side. Usually you you know,

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<v Speaker 4>slide towards the play that the way you're running to

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<v Speaker 4>play right the first read and in the progression, but

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<v Speaker 4>you can mess with it and you slide to protection.

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<v Speaker 4>So the entire game, Ben Brown should have been opening

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<v Speaker 4>to Jeffrey Simmons his side of the right, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you have two guys on him the entire game. Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's the way that it should have been, the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that it wasn't is just bad coaching. Like, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>bad coaching. So I had Michael Jordan, I had you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you could put Ben Brown in this conversation. You can

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<v Speaker 4>put Layden Robinson in this conversation. But the end, all

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<v Speaker 4>the end, you know, the end, this whole rant. The

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<v Speaker 4>interior offensive line by the Patriots got their ass whipped

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<v Speaker 4>in this game. And that is not just on them,

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<v Speaker 4>it's also just on the coaching as well. So you

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<v Speaker 4>have to do a better job in general.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I understand why they're gonna take Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>out of this, out of the lineup, because he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been very good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah again, I think there's a better way to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Put him with you. Last one, last one, Bryce Bearinger, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, your boy. He had a couple of shanks, like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't have that. He had a big shank, lady,

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<v Speaker 2>He had a really.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So yeah, there's not like there's no I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how much would editorialize that the guy was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the best punters in the league to start the season.

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<v Speaker 4>He's cooled off a little bit, out kicked his coverage

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<v Speaker 4>in Jacksonville, shanked a couple punts of week. Gotta get

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<v Speaker 4>back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a This isn't a Jake Bailey did too

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<v Speaker 2>many squats scenarios?

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<v Speaker 4>Hope not? Yeah, I hope not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was squats, right, was it squats? I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the hair is back or something like that. Squats

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<v Speaker 2>my last down. And I've said this before, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for people that listen to all of our shows.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm repeating myself a little bit. But every single Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>Film Monday one of my favorite days of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I get to sit down, I get to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch The Loving Mondays is so on brim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get to watch the film. It's great. I

1:09:03.777 --> 1:09:06.737
<v Speaker 2>sit in with my laptop for like twelve straight hours

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<v Speaker 2>and watch film, and it's my favorite day of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I have started to dread watching the Patriots defense. I've

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<v Speaker 2>started to dread it because their run defense is so

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<v Speaker 2>tough to watch. It is so difficult to watch, like

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<v Speaker 2>it from alignment to fits to getting off blocks, fundamentals,

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<v Speaker 2>pad level, you know, I discipline, iding rushes like all

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<v Speaker 2>of it, all of it is just is just really

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<v Speaker 2>tough to watch. So I'll give you one example, I

1:09:41.857 --> 1:09:44.218
<v Speaker 2>could give you a billion. Obviously, in overtime they just

1:09:44.298 --> 1:09:47.218
<v Speaker 2>get there, blown off the line of scrimmage like this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't anything creative in overtime. It was just like against

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville in London, We're coming at you. You can't stop us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're doing, right Like, It's just that right

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<v Speaker 2>there is It sucks the soul right out of you,

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<v Speaker 2>right like that. The fact that you can't just line

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<v Speaker 2>up and stop somebody in the run game is just

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult to watch. But the thirty two yarder by

1:10:09.657 --> 1:10:12.458
<v Speaker 2>Tony Pollard on the opening drive of this game for

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans, which they scored a touchdown on, they ran

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<v Speaker 2>a front that I haven't seen them run a ton

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<v Speaker 2>where they have a four technique, So a defensive end

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<v Speaker 2>straight up over the tackle right, he's right lined up

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<v Speaker 2>right over the left tackles Jeremiah Farms. There's nobody outside

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah Farms, like there's nobody. There's no edge defender, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no outside linebacker standing up, there's no Anthony Jennings over there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no number nobody. So what do the Titans do?

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<v Speaker 2>They just motion a tight end into the formation and

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<v Speaker 2>they crack block Jeremiah Farms and they get the easiest

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<v Speaker 2>edge of all time. Like it's just easiest edge ever,

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<v Speaker 2>and they get the the DB's in the fit and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're just running downhill at two hundred and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and ninety pound defensive backs right, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that to me, is not necessarily you know, DeMarcus

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<v Speaker 2>Covington said today that the dbs need to do a

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<v Speaker 2>better job in the run game. You should help out

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<v Speaker 2>the dbs, right, Like, why is there not an edge

1:11:11.378 --> 1:11:14.298
<v Speaker 2>defender there to set the edge of the defense, Like

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<v Speaker 2>having a hand in the dirt, defensive lineman inside the tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>be your furthest player out on the line of scrimmage

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<v Speaker 2>on that side of the ball just doesn't make logical sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I watched their run defense and there's just times

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, who in this gap? Like who's assigned

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<v Speaker 2>to this gap? Like there's nobody in the gap, So

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<v Speaker 2>that is that on the players that they're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>aligned correctly on the field. Is that on the coaches

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<v Speaker 2>for the fronts they're running or what they're coaching in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of alignment. What I'm basically getting at is is

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<v Speaker 2>that this is not talent. This is details. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>all it takes is being sharper on these details and

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<v Speaker 2>better with your fundamentals, and their run defense will get better.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter that they don't have Vince will Fork

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<v Speaker 2>or a Juwan Bentley or whichever player of from the

1:12:05.737 --> 1:12:07.977
<v Speaker 2>Patriots pass that you want to point at that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a good run defender. They have enough guys that

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<v Speaker 2>can stop the run. Davon Godshaw is a really good

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<v Speaker 2>nose tackle, Anthony Jennings is a really good edgesetter. They

1:12:17.458 --> 1:12:20.258
<v Speaker 2>need to deploy these guys better than what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>or they need to get the players on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page and to buy into what they're doing. Way too

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<v Speaker 2>many blown fits, blown gaps, poor assignmon sound football, and

1:12:29.737 --> 1:12:32.737
<v Speaker 2>poor formation on the defensive side of the ball. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a painful watch to watch their run defense right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's not up to it's not NFL standard, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's taking away from my mondays Alex. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>most important thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it hasn't been good plan and simple.

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<v Speaker 2>guys have been waiting, so I appreciate it. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam is in Connecticut. What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Sam?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>You hear me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Go forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Sam?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, awesome. I had one question that I want

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<v Speaker 5>to ask you guys. You guys want to do it

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit, but I just want to ask about

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<v Speaker 5>the run game in general. Well, what do you think

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<v Speaker 5>the main issue is with the run game? Is if

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<v Speaker 5>mostly on scheming? I know you guys are talking about

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<v Speaker 5>that a lot earlier. Has it been at all in

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<v Speaker 5>the on the players? I don't know how Gibson's really

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<v Speaker 5>been doing individually. I know Stevenson, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of the year was breaking a lot of tackles.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to I want to figure out who if

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<v Speaker 5>it was. Those two things are a big part of

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<v Speaker 5>it was offensive line, uh, rush blocking and if that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of took a decline, and I kind of wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to know, you know why you guys think that fell

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<v Speaker 5>off so much just since the beginning of the season.

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<v Speaker 5>If if it was maybe you know, difference with Drake

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<v Speaker 5>May playing at quarterback and defenses are kind of treating

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<v Speaker 5>it differently. I just love to hear you guys talk

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<v Speaker 5>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for the call.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's a good Uh, it's a good question. So

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things that I see with their run game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then als obviously give your thoughts. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>number one thing to me is uh, And I've been

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<v Speaker 2>We've been saying this going back to the Patricia years,

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<v Speaker 2>like they just don't have the offensive linemen to block

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<v Speaker 2>an outside zone system. Like I just don't believe that they,

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<v Speaker 2>from a personnel standpoint, have the right people to block it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know on when who kind of gets used

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<v Speaker 2>as like the perfect example because he's a three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty pound guy. But I would just say across

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<v Speaker 2>the board. They don't have the athletes for it. So

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<v Speaker 2>outside Zonetah. You know, you look at teams that run

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of system, they have a lot of I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>just to use a patriot, like, they have a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of cold strangers, right, Like they have a bunch of athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a bunch of lean, very athletic interior players

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<v Speaker 2>especially that can horizontally move at that ninety degree angle

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<v Speaker 2>and reach blocks on the line of scrimmage. So a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of outside zone is that you're gonna you know,

1:15:16.537 --> 1:15:19.058
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to the left side, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a guy right in your gap on your outside hip,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to reach that player and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to turn him some you know, out of that gap,

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<v Speaker 2>and that takes a lot of athleticism and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of explosiveness out of your stance. So if they want

1:15:35.058 --> 1:15:37.298
<v Speaker 2>to be that kind of team, and they truly want

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<v Speaker 2>to commit to being an outside zone run team, which

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<v Speaker 2>I do think they do, because that's what Gerrod Mayo

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<v Speaker 2>said when he was hired, that he kind of infatuated

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<v Speaker 2>by that system, by the Shanahan Tree, then you need

1:15:49.497 --> 1:15:52.418
<v Speaker 2>to draft for that system, like you need to go

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<v Speaker 2>out and draft lineman that fit the mold of that system.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily think Caden Wallace or Laden Robinson are

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<v Speaker 2>outside zone offensive linemen. So I would say, on the

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<v Speaker 2>one hand, I definitely will continue to harp and pound

1:16:09.418 --> 1:16:12.097
<v Speaker 2>the table for them to just go downhill at people again,

1:16:12.458 --> 1:16:16.017
<v Speaker 2>like run some gap schemes guys like run some duo,

1:16:16.497 --> 1:16:20.897
<v Speaker 2>run some lead, run some power, and just downhill right

1:16:20.978 --> 1:16:24.178
<v Speaker 2>at them, like take on Win, you take Robinson, take

1:16:24.218 --> 1:16:26.617
<v Speaker 2>these big guys and get them moving off the line

1:16:26.617 --> 1:16:29.817
<v Speaker 2>of scrimmage. Right now, the push that they're generating is

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<v Speaker 2>not good enough. And I don't think it's totally on them.

1:16:32.258 --> 1:16:33.458
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it is scheme.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with that, But I also think and

1:16:37.298 --> 1:16:38.897
<v Speaker 4>maybe they're going away from this, and we talked about

1:16:38.937 --> 1:16:41.097
<v Speaker 4>maybe Laden Robinson went in last week because they wanted

1:16:41.098 --> 1:16:43.657
<v Speaker 4>a guy who was primarily a run blocker. With Drake

1:16:43.777 --> 1:16:46.137
<v Speaker 4>May coming in, they're putting more emphasis or they're putting

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<v Speaker 4>more attention on getting players in who are better pass blockers,

1:16:48.777 --> 1:16:50.617
<v Speaker 4>and they just don't have a ton of guys who

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<v Speaker 4>are solid in both regards right now. They don't even

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to moving a guy like Mike and

1:16:54.978 --> 1:16:58.017
<v Speaker 4>Winn who's right guard to right tackle. That's a move

1:16:58.098 --> 1:16:59.937
<v Speaker 4>you make in regards to the run game. You're not

1:17:00.018 --> 1:17:02.297
<v Speaker 4>making that to do a better job protecting the quarterback.

1:17:02.418 --> 1:17:05.937
<v Speaker 4>So how much can you do about that right now?

1:17:06.018 --> 1:17:08.057
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can keep Mike going win right guard.

1:17:08.138 --> 1:17:10.178
<v Speaker 4>That's one way to help it. But some of it

1:17:10.298 --> 1:17:12.857
<v Speaker 4>to me not a personnel thing in the sense, well

1:17:12.897 --> 1:17:14.737
<v Speaker 4>it is, I guess the personnel thing in the sense

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<v Speaker 4>of who they have available. But I think because of

1:17:16.897 --> 1:17:18.857
<v Speaker 4>who they have available, the coaching staff at times has

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<v Speaker 4>to choose do we want guys who are better pass blockers,

1:17:22.458 --> 1:17:24.258
<v Speaker 4>better run blockers, because there are gonna be guys that

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<v Speaker 4>have significant weaknesses at one or the other. And with

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<v Speaker 4>Drake may In, the emphasis is on protecting the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fair point. I just say the other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, quickly, they they're running a lot of they're

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<v Speaker 2>running a lot of plays to the weak side of

1:17:38.657 --> 1:17:42.777
<v Speaker 2>the formation, so away, so away from where the tight

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<v Speaker 2>ends or this or so even sometimes the jumbo tight end,

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<v Speaker 2>like the tackle eligible.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that typically lends itself when you do

1:17:51.978 --> 1:17:54.817
<v Speaker 2>that is that you're one on one on the back side,

1:17:55.098 --> 1:17:59.817
<v Speaker 2>so you you technically have the numbers to that side

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<v Speaker 2>of the field because the defense is getting tilt over

1:18:02.058 --> 1:18:03.937
<v Speaker 2>to the side that the tight end is on, so

1:18:04.098 --> 1:18:06.857
<v Speaker 2>you should have a numbers advantage running there. But the

1:18:06.937 --> 1:18:10.458
<v Speaker 2>problem is is that it's everybody's on their own right,

1:18:10.577 --> 1:18:12.097
<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's one on ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Across the board, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, last week we talked a lot about

1:18:15.258 --> 1:18:18.057
<v Speaker 2>that goal line run that won the game against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in that instance, you have the polers, So you

1:18:20.857 --> 1:18:23.857
<v Speaker 2>have what they call fixers, right, the guys that if

1:18:23.897 --> 1:18:25.937
<v Speaker 2>the guys on the line of scrimmage blow their block,

1:18:26.218 --> 1:18:28.777
<v Speaker 2>you have like a second wave almost of blockers that

1:18:28.817 --> 1:18:32.138
<v Speaker 2>can then make them right and fix the problem when

1:18:32.178 --> 1:18:34.577
<v Speaker 2>you're running weak side and you don't have fixers, you

1:18:34.617 --> 1:18:36.857
<v Speaker 2>don't have pollers coming from the other side of the field,

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<v Speaker 2>then those guys, if they blow their block, that's it

1:18:39.537 --> 1:18:42.178
<v Speaker 2>that the runs over. And that's what I'm seeing a

1:18:42.258 --> 1:18:44.777
<v Speaker 2>lot of on film. Like they early on in this game,

1:18:45.777 --> 1:18:48.537
<v Speaker 2>they made Cities so eligible. A couple of times they

1:18:48.657 --> 1:18:51.497
<v Speaker 2>ran lead with the full back being City so in

1:18:51.577 --> 1:18:54.937
<v Speaker 2>the backfield and Ramandri Stevenson didn't run behind City, so

1:18:55.537 --> 1:18:58.298
<v Speaker 2>he ran the other way. So that to me, I

1:18:58.458 --> 1:19:00.458
<v Speaker 2>just don't it doesn't add up to me like that.

1:19:01.378 --> 1:19:03.937
<v Speaker 2>I watched that play and was similar to watching the

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<v Speaker 2>run defense. I'm like, that doesn't look right, Like you

1:19:07.058 --> 1:19:09.697
<v Speaker 2>have the whole run set up to run behind city.

1:19:09.777 --> 1:19:12.897
<v Speaker 2>So but then Drake May and Ramandri Stevenson are He's

1:19:12.978 --> 1:19:15.697
<v Speaker 2>going left, and both the cornerback and the running back

1:19:15.737 --> 1:19:17.697
<v Speaker 2>are on the same page about which way he's going.

1:19:17.777 --> 1:19:20.537
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't like there was like some weird exchangeer

1:19:20.857 --> 1:19:24.018
<v Speaker 2>or snafu back there. To me, they they pointed the

1:19:24.098 --> 1:19:26.537
<v Speaker 2>run in the wrong direction. I don't know if that's

1:19:26.697 --> 1:19:29.697
<v Speaker 2>just as simple as a screw up or if there

1:19:29.937 --> 1:19:33.418
<v Speaker 2>was something more at play there at philosophical.

1:19:32.777 --> 1:19:34.617
<v Speaker 4>Thing, but I just don't.

1:19:34.697 --> 1:19:36.697
<v Speaker 2>I don't care for it, Alex. I don't like, why

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<v Speaker 2>put a three hundred pound lineman at full back and

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<v Speaker 2>then not run behind him?

1:19:41.857 --> 1:19:43.777
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it goes back. They did this in

1:19:43.857 --> 1:19:46.178
<v Speaker 4>the Seattle game. Remember where they ran the unbalanced line.

1:19:46.178 --> 1:19:48.418
<v Speaker 4>They had Hunter henry at left tackle and they they

1:19:48.697 --> 1:19:52.817
<v Speaker 4>ran they ran behind Hunter Henryett left tackle, Like this

1:19:53.018 --> 1:19:56.338
<v Speaker 4>is it's not the first time they've tried something or

1:19:56.378 --> 1:19:58.178
<v Speaker 4>they've tried that a couple of times this year, and yeah,

1:19:58.218 --> 1:19:58.497
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1:19:58.857 --> 1:20:01.897
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fullback's great. Full back helps so much to me

1:20:02.018 --> 1:20:02.737
<v Speaker 2>in the run game.

1:20:03.418 --> 1:20:05.138
<v Speaker 4>If they're gonna keep running this offense, you want to

1:20:05.138 --> 1:20:06.937
<v Speaker 4>see him, because I've gotten this question a lot, do

1:20:06.937 --> 1:20:08.458
<v Speaker 4>you want to see him add a true fullback and

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<v Speaker 4>incorporate it next year?

1:20:09.577 --> 1:20:11.537
<v Speaker 2>I don't want them to keep running this offense, but

1:20:11.657 --> 1:20:14.497
<v Speaker 2>if they if they insist on running or even.

1:20:14.418 --> 1:20:16.817
<v Speaker 4>A more developed version of this offense. Basically, if Van

1:20:16.937 --> 1:20:19.138
<v Speaker 4>Pelt's next back next year, even if they add in

1:20:19.298 --> 1:20:20.897
<v Speaker 4>some of the pistol stuff and some of the design

1:20:20.978 --> 1:20:24.058
<v Speaker 4>quarterback run stuff, do you think that there's room to

1:20:24.138 --> 1:20:26.937
<v Speaker 4>incorporate a full back into a version of this offense. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, But in order to do that, this is not

1:20:29.737 --> 1:20:31.657
<v Speaker 2>a James Devi Jakob Johnson.

1:20:31.817 --> 1:20:33.017
<v Speaker 4>No, it's it's.

1:20:34.497 --> 1:20:35.697
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's used check.

1:20:35.817 --> 1:20:39.178
<v Speaker 4>Like who was the guy they had the Packers, ironically

1:20:39.298 --> 1:20:41.737
<v Speaker 4>not Dalton Keene. They had him and he opted out

1:20:41.777 --> 1:20:42.897
<v Speaker 4>the COVID year and then he retired.

1:20:43.018 --> 1:20:46.657
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they needed like a more athletic full back

1:20:46.737 --> 1:20:48.378
<v Speaker 2>because he's going to have to block out on a

1:20:48.418 --> 1:20:50.818
<v Speaker 2>perimeter and some are just a little bigger.

1:20:50.577 --> 1:20:52.978
<v Speaker 4>Than Jahem Bell. I don't think Jaeen Bell is quite.

1:20:52.978 --> 1:20:56.178
<v Speaker 2>I think Jaaine Bell has potential to be that guy though,

1:20:56.338 --> 1:20:58.178
<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't mind at least trying to see if

1:20:58.218 --> 1:21:00.497
<v Speaker 2>he could do it. Honestly, I think he has a

1:21:00.617 --> 1:21:04.977
<v Speaker 2>chance to. But oh, Danny Vitel, Danny Vitel, Yes, I

1:21:05.058 --> 1:21:07.737
<v Speaker 2>remember Danny Vittel. I thought Danny Vitel was going to

1:21:07.777 --> 1:21:09.257
<v Speaker 2>be a thing for a second.

1:21:09.458 --> 1:21:11.977
<v Speaker 4>I well, he was. They signed him to be a thing,

1:21:12.018 --> 1:21:13.537
<v Speaker 4>but he Yeah, it was the COVID year and he

1:21:13.577 --> 1:21:15.458
<v Speaker 4>opted out and then he retired. How much I think

1:21:15.497 --> 1:21:17.218
<v Speaker 4>they even like extended him, They signed him for a

1:21:17.218 --> 1:21:17.817
<v Speaker 4>one year deal.

1:21:18.098 --> 1:21:19.857
<v Speaker 2>How much podcast time do you think you and I

1:21:19.978 --> 1:21:21.617
<v Speaker 2>wasted talking about Danny Vittel.

1:21:21.897 --> 1:21:24.218
<v Speaker 4>At least at least weren't doing podcasts that year, that's

1:21:24.218 --> 1:21:25.138
<v Speaker 4>the one you weren't doing.

1:21:25.298 --> 1:21:27.218
<v Speaker 2>That's true. We would have done a lot, at least

1:21:27.298 --> 1:21:27.897
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes.

1:21:28.018 --> 1:21:30.657
<v Speaker 4>It was. It was it was a cosmic happening that

1:21:30.737 --> 1:21:33.458
<v Speaker 4>that that was the one year we weren't doing podcast.

1:21:33.138 --> 1:21:35.298
<v Speaker 2>We didn't get to talk about Danny Vitel together.

1:21:35.418 --> 1:21:37.258
<v Speaker 4>That's what they get to do with Danny vital Who

1:21:37.338 --> 1:21:39.458
<v Speaker 4>else did we missed that year probably a lot, but

1:21:39.617 --> 1:21:42.418
<v Speaker 4>Danny Cam because he was still here to twenty twenty one. Yeah,

1:21:42.418 --> 1:21:44.817
<v Speaker 4>we never got to talk to mere Bird. Underrated player.

1:21:44.978 --> 1:21:48.057
<v Speaker 2>Underrated player, under I mean that underrated respect on Demir

1:21:48.098 --> 1:21:51.458
<v Speaker 2>Bird's name, I mean he had, he had. They replaced

1:21:51.537 --> 1:21:53.298
<v Speaker 2>him Nelson waiting for an hour and seven.

1:21:53.737 --> 1:21:56.897
<v Speaker 4>They replaced him with Nelson Aglore and they both have

1:21:57.058 --> 1:21:58.218
<v Speaker 4>like equal productions. Yeah.

1:21:58.258 --> 1:21:59.458
<v Speaker 2>Year, now Demir Bird could fly.

1:21:59.697 --> 1:22:00.017
<v Speaker 4>All right.

1:22:00.298 --> 1:22:04.777
<v Speaker 2>Steve is in New Jersey. What's up, Steve? Steve are

1:22:04.777 --> 1:22:05.057
<v Speaker 2>you there?

1:22:06.378 --> 1:22:08.777
<v Speaker 4>That's my fault. I talked to me, you did, Stevie?

1:22:08.817 --> 1:22:11.617
<v Speaker 2>All right? Steve calls back if if you're still there?

1:22:11.697 --> 1:22:13.657
<v Speaker 2>All right. Todd is in North Carolina? What's up?

1:22:13.697 --> 1:22:13.817
<v Speaker 4>Todd?

1:22:15.458 --> 1:22:18.137
<v Speaker 3>So before you got on you Evan, and just after

1:22:18.218 --> 1:22:20.458
<v Speaker 3>you left yesterday I talked to Jog a little bit

1:22:20.657 --> 1:22:23.857
<v Speaker 3>and John felt that ADP was brilliant and that he's

1:22:23.897 --> 1:22:26.218
<v Speaker 3>being kind of held back. He's not allowed to be

1:22:26.338 --> 1:22:29.138
<v Speaker 3>creative and not allowed to do as much. And then

1:22:29.178 --> 1:22:32.178
<v Speaker 3>in the chat today for PU there's a guy who

1:22:32.617 --> 1:22:35.258
<v Speaker 3>gave us a quote from Mayo on w E I

1:22:35.458 --> 1:22:38.097
<v Speaker 3>saying that you know he's in the headset, he's making

1:22:38.178 --> 1:22:41.937
<v Speaker 3>the calls for the offense and that's how it works.

1:22:42.018 --> 1:22:46.098
<v Speaker 3>So he's actually doing offense and I don't like the

1:22:46.178 --> 1:22:48.338
<v Speaker 3>sound of that. And then I was thinking about that.

1:22:48.418 --> 1:22:50.977
<v Speaker 3>You combine that with may talking about how proud he is.

1:22:51.018 --> 1:22:53.537
<v Speaker 5>Of all the audibles he's had to make, and I'm.

1:22:53.378 --> 1:22:56.378
<v Speaker 3>Beginning to wonder, like just who is coaching what and

1:22:56.737 --> 1:22:58.977
<v Speaker 3>who's doing what? And it's starting to make me a

1:22:59.018 --> 1:23:01.257
<v Speaker 3>little concern. What do you guys think about the coaching

1:23:01.338 --> 1:23:04.138
<v Speaker 3>and is AVP brilliant and being held back?

1:23:04.258 --> 1:23:06.177
<v Speaker 4>I'll take it off, thanks Todd.

1:23:06.298 --> 1:23:09.897
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Gerrod Mayo is is is coaching or

1:23:10.258 --> 1:23:12.537
<v Speaker 2>super involved in the offense. I don't think.

1:23:12.617 --> 1:23:14.817
<v Speaker 4>I don't get that impression. I don't think so either.

1:23:14.978 --> 1:23:18.378
<v Speaker 2>Now being on the headset, like obviously every head coach

1:23:18.537 --> 1:23:22.097
<v Speaker 2>is on the headset and is in that you know, okay,

1:23:22.497 --> 1:23:26.298
<v Speaker 2>you know sometimes like maybe he wants to explain how

1:23:26.298 --> 1:23:29.057
<v Speaker 2>they want to handle a certain situation, right to Alice

1:23:29.138 --> 1:23:31.658
<v Speaker 2>Van Pelt, like you know, you mentioned in the situation

1:23:31.817 --> 1:23:34.418
<v Speaker 2>before halftime against the Jets, like let's just run it

1:23:34.458 --> 1:23:36.817
<v Speaker 2>out here, let's see yeah, right, that sort of thing.

1:23:37.497 --> 1:23:39.737
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that's definitely possible. But I don't

1:23:39.737 --> 1:23:43.217
<v Speaker 2>think Girod Mayo's is getting in there and calling plays

1:23:43.657 --> 1:23:46.897
<v Speaker 2>like and you know he shouldn't be being in Drake Mayzier,

1:23:47.138 --> 1:23:51.017
<v Speaker 2>He's not. Now, do I think Alex van Pelt's being

1:23:51.058 --> 1:23:54.217
<v Speaker 2>held back? No, I think this is Alex van Pelt's offense.

1:23:54.218 --> 1:23:55.977
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the offense they've run in Cleveland.

1:23:56.258 --> 1:23:57.897
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the offense he ran in Green

1:23:57.978 --> 1:24:00.697
<v Speaker 2>Bay with Mike McCarthy. It's the offense that Mike McCarthy's

1:24:00.777 --> 1:24:03.617
<v Speaker 2>running in Dallas with the Cowboys right now. Like, this

1:24:03.817 --> 1:24:06.017
<v Speaker 2>is the offense I don't. I don't think that there's

1:24:06.138 --> 1:24:08.178
<v Speaker 2>some secret sauce that's being missed from this.

1:24:08.258 --> 1:24:11.298
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think there's to an extent of him

1:24:11.338 --> 1:24:13.218
<v Speaker 4>being held back by the personnel. And I think he

1:24:13.258 --> 1:24:16.298
<v Speaker 4>even talked about this that like the execution is limiting

1:24:16.378 --> 1:24:18.937
<v Speaker 4>some of the things they can do. But in that

1:24:19.178 --> 1:24:20.378
<v Speaker 4>sense he might be being held there.

1:24:20.497 --> 1:24:23.737
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I just don't think that from a creative sense,

1:24:23.817 --> 1:24:25.617
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think that he's not a this wizard

1:24:25.777 --> 1:24:28.018
<v Speaker 2>that we're missing out on. I wish he was, Like

1:24:28.098 --> 1:24:30.697
<v Speaker 2>I wish that was the case, because you would think

1:24:30.777 --> 1:24:33.298
<v Speaker 2>by you know, four or five starts in with Drake

1:24:33.378 --> 1:24:34.977
<v Speaker 2>May maybe we'd start to see some of that.

1:24:35.058 --> 1:24:37.098
<v Speaker 4>Well. I think this is the week, like and you

1:24:37.178 --> 1:24:38.937
<v Speaker 4>have the concussion in the middle there, which maybe throws

1:24:38.937 --> 1:24:40.937
<v Speaker 4>a ranch into that this is the week where that

1:24:41.458 --> 1:24:43.098
<v Speaker 4>element of it should start ramping up.

1:24:43.298 --> 1:24:45.097
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, I do want to talk a little

1:24:45.098 --> 1:24:45.537
<v Speaker 2>bit of Bears.

1:24:45.777 --> 1:24:49.217
<v Speaker 4>Marine. The we actually did like a pretty solid Bears preview,

1:24:49.497 --> 1:24:50.897
<v Speaker 4>more of a preview than we usually do. We were

1:24:50.897 --> 1:24:53.017
<v Speaker 4>talking Bears early in the show. I'm not saying we can't.

1:24:53.018 --> 1:24:53.857
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying no, I.

1:24:53.897 --> 1:24:55.817
<v Speaker 2>Want to talk a little bit about Caleb, but I

1:24:55.897 --> 1:24:58.098
<v Speaker 2>also want to get the emails up and Marine, the

1:24:58.178 --> 1:25:00.577
<v Speaker 2>email is not logged in. If you can come help

1:25:00.617 --> 1:25:03.777
<v Speaker 2>me with that, thank you. I want to talk a

1:25:03.817 --> 1:25:09.258
<v Speaker 2>little bit about Caleb because look, it's a conversation and

1:25:10.497 --> 1:25:12.897
<v Speaker 2>I like hand up. I'm not going to change my

1:25:13.018 --> 1:25:15.057
<v Speaker 2>mind or act like I didn't feel this way during

1:25:15.138 --> 1:25:17.537
<v Speaker 2>the draft. I had Caleb as the number one quarterback

1:25:17.537 --> 1:25:19.737
<v Speaker 2>in the draft. I had him as the slam Dug

1:25:19.817 --> 1:25:22.617
<v Speaker 2>number one pick. I would have taken him number one

1:25:22.657 --> 1:25:26.258
<v Speaker 2>overall if I was Ryan Pace and Matt Eberflus and

1:25:26.258 --> 1:25:28.977
<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bears. So I don't fault them for anything

1:25:29.058 --> 1:25:32.937
<v Speaker 2>that they did. But now, in hindsight, with the benefit

1:25:33.018 --> 1:25:36.817
<v Speaker 2>of it, Jading Daniels has certainly outplayed Caleb Williams. That

1:25:37.497 --> 1:25:41.258
<v Speaker 2>goes without saying, and I think there's a case statistically,

1:25:41.338 --> 1:25:44.258
<v Speaker 2>obviously in a much smaller sample size, that Drake may

1:25:44.338 --> 1:25:46.577
<v Speaker 2>has at least played just as well, if not better

1:25:47.298 --> 1:25:50.218
<v Speaker 2>than Caleb Williams as well, despite the fact that Caleb

1:25:50.258 --> 1:25:53.138
<v Speaker 2>Williams has a great supporting cast on paper, or a

1:25:53.218 --> 1:25:55.617
<v Speaker 2>much better one at least in the Patriots. I mean,

1:25:55.657 --> 1:25:59.098
<v Speaker 2>I remember coming into the season with Chicago Alex that

1:25:59.378 --> 1:26:01.977
<v Speaker 2>people are saying that this might be the best setup a.

1:26:02.058 --> 1:26:06.097
<v Speaker 4>Number one pick has ever had. Yeah, in Chicago with Caleb.

1:26:06.298 --> 1:26:09.777
<v Speaker 2>So what are your thoughts so far on Caleb and

1:26:09.857 --> 1:26:13.937
<v Speaker 2>what he's done? You know, because I've been I've been

1:26:13.978 --> 1:26:16.137
<v Speaker 2>a little underwhelmed. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not coming

1:26:16.178 --> 1:26:18.537
<v Speaker 2>on here and trying to, you know, bash him to

1:26:18.577 --> 1:26:21.018
<v Speaker 2>make Drake look better, I promise, but I just have

1:26:21.098 --> 1:26:22.177
<v Speaker 2>been a little bit underwhelmed.

1:26:22.817 --> 1:26:25.537
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's been inconsistent, I think would be the

1:26:25.577 --> 1:26:27.577
<v Speaker 4>best way to put it. He's had some games where

1:26:27.617 --> 1:26:29.617
<v Speaker 4>he's looked unbelievable, but it was really like a four

1:26:29.697 --> 1:26:31.378
<v Speaker 4>game stretch there in the middle of the year. He

1:26:31.418 --> 1:26:33.577
<v Speaker 4>didn't start the season strong. He hasn't been good the

1:26:33.657 --> 1:26:36.818
<v Speaker 4>last two weeks since the buy. So he's thrown nine touchdowns,

1:26:37.338 --> 1:26:41.537
<v Speaker 4>but they've come in four total games. And on one hand,

1:26:41.657 --> 1:26:44.418
<v Speaker 4>for a young quarterback, yeah, consistency is one of the

1:26:44.418 --> 1:26:46.338
<v Speaker 4>tough things. But this is like to an extreme, especially

1:26:46.378 --> 1:26:48.697
<v Speaker 4>when you factor in the talent he has around him.

1:26:48.737 --> 1:26:50.258
<v Speaker 4>And I think we talked about this when he was

1:26:50.298 --> 1:26:53.937
<v Speaker 4>at un and c usc was he going to be

1:26:54.058 --> 1:26:57.017
<v Speaker 4>able to three step drop get the ball out right?

1:26:57.098 --> 1:26:59.378
<v Speaker 4>For the concerns we talk about with Drake may and

1:26:59.497 --> 1:27:01.418
<v Speaker 4>his inability to play in structure, a lot of that's

1:27:01.458 --> 1:27:05.258
<v Speaker 4>there with Caleb too, and the offense Shane Waldern is calling,

1:27:05.338 --> 1:27:08.298
<v Speaker 4>for whatever reason, is like incredibly structure based. I think

1:27:08.298 --> 1:27:10.697
<v Speaker 4>you could argue it's more structure based than what the

1:27:10.777 --> 1:27:13.777
<v Speaker 4>Patriots are calling for May or at the very least,

1:27:15.218 --> 1:27:18.338
<v Speaker 4>Williams is more adhering to the structure. He's less willing

1:27:18.378 --> 1:27:21.977
<v Speaker 4>to break the structure, and so he's fighting himself. He's

1:27:22.018 --> 1:27:25.098
<v Speaker 4>fighting himself and something's got to give. And I know

1:27:25.178 --> 1:27:27.298
<v Speaker 4>people in Chicago are not happy with Shane Waldern, and

1:27:27.338 --> 1:27:29.977
<v Speaker 4>I get that, whether that's him, whether it's Williams, like,

1:27:30.058 --> 1:27:33.178
<v Speaker 4>it's just the flashes are there. But I think they

1:27:33.298 --> 1:27:34.977
<v Speaker 4>just have him fighting himself too much. Yeah.

1:27:35.018 --> 1:27:37.338
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's funny with Shan Waldron because when

1:27:37.378 --> 1:27:40.817
<v Speaker 2>I watch the Bears offense right now, in their system,

1:27:40.897 --> 1:27:42.497
<v Speaker 2>I see a lot of the same things that the

1:27:42.577 --> 1:27:47.458
<v Speaker 2>Patriots run. Conceptually offensively, they run a West Coast offense

1:27:47.577 --> 1:27:51.737
<v Speaker 2>just like the Patriots. Waldron is a McVeagh guy, you know,

1:27:51.857 --> 1:27:55.537
<v Speaker 2>came from the Rams, you know, the Seahawks via the Rams,

1:27:55.978 --> 1:27:59.458
<v Speaker 2>but followed Sean McVay from Washington when McVay was the

1:27:59.737 --> 1:28:02.697
<v Speaker 2>OC there to Los Angeles, right, So this is a

1:28:02.777 --> 1:28:07.418
<v Speaker 2>true mcveay guy. But Waldron at least to this point,

1:28:07.458 --> 1:28:09.178
<v Speaker 2>and he did a little bit more in Seattle. So

1:28:09.258 --> 1:28:12.177
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is a rookie quarterback thing more than anything.

1:28:12.298 --> 1:28:15.737
<v Speaker 2>But they don't motion much. They don't do much in

1:28:15.897 --> 1:28:19.577
<v Speaker 2>terms of their pre snap to alter the defense or

1:28:19.617 --> 1:28:22.737
<v Speaker 2>affect the defense, just like the Patriots. And I see

1:28:22.777 --> 1:28:26.497
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the same sort of rudimentary route concepts

1:28:26.617 --> 1:28:28.577
<v Speaker 2>right like we're gonna run a high low over here,

1:28:29.138 --> 1:28:31.218
<v Speaker 2>or we're gonna run stick over there. We're going to

1:28:31.338 --> 1:28:34.497
<v Speaker 2>run all curls here on third down or whatever. Like,

1:28:34.617 --> 1:28:39.138
<v Speaker 2>It's all just kind of stuff that frankly, people have

1:28:39.258 --> 1:28:42.218
<v Speaker 2>been running since like high school, right, And I think

1:28:42.258 --> 1:28:44.458
<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of that. I think they're spacing

1:28:44.577 --> 1:28:46.657
<v Speaker 2>and the way that they set up the reads for

1:28:46.817 --> 1:28:50.017
<v Speaker 2>Caleb has put a lot of pause into his decision

1:28:50.098 --> 1:28:52.737
<v Speaker 2>making and has caused problems for them as well. So

1:28:52.937 --> 1:28:54.857
<v Speaker 2>I put a lot of it on the design of

1:28:54.897 --> 1:28:58.378
<v Speaker 2>the offense and the offensive coordinator. With that being said,

1:28:58.418 --> 1:29:01.617
<v Speaker 2>I agree with everything that you said about this was

1:29:01.857 --> 1:29:05.777
<v Speaker 2>the question mark coming into his career with Caleb was

1:29:06.298 --> 1:29:09.897
<v Speaker 2>was he going to be able to operate on time,

1:29:10.138 --> 1:29:12.617
<v Speaker 2>in rhythm, in structure. Like we know that he can

1:29:12.657 --> 1:29:15.137
<v Speaker 2>do all the great stuff when the play breaks down,

1:29:15.458 --> 1:29:18.058
<v Speaker 2>but was he going to be able to play conventional

1:29:18.178 --> 1:29:21.458
<v Speaker 2>quarterback at a high enough level to make it worth

1:29:21.497 --> 1:29:24.497
<v Speaker 2>it right to make this all go? And so far,

1:29:24.817 --> 1:29:27.057
<v Speaker 2>I would say he struggled with that a little bit,

1:29:27.178 --> 1:29:31.617
<v Speaker 2>you know, growing on time, throwing accurately with timing and

1:29:31.697 --> 1:29:34.298
<v Speaker 2>rhythm and anticipation down the field. A lot of the

1:29:34.418 --> 1:29:38.017
<v Speaker 2>time when you see quarterbacks misthrows, it's not because they're

1:29:38.218 --> 1:29:41.418
<v Speaker 2>they can't control the ball, it's because they're not anticipating,

1:29:41.617 --> 1:29:44.577
<v Speaker 2>or they're timing is off, so they're throwing late, or

1:29:44.577 --> 1:29:46.777
<v Speaker 2>they're throwing early, and now all of a sudden, a

1:29:46.817 --> 1:29:49.098
<v Speaker 2>ball that actually would have been perfectly fine looks like

1:29:49.178 --> 1:29:51.657
<v Speaker 2>it's a bad throw. So I see a lot of

1:29:51.697 --> 1:29:55.458
<v Speaker 2>that with Caleb as well. But if you're the Bears

1:29:55.497 --> 1:29:58.017
<v Speaker 2>and I know this is already happening, there's a lot

1:29:58.138 --> 1:30:01.418
<v Speaker 2>of Justin Field's PTSD, just like we have some mac

1:30:01.497 --> 1:30:04.897
<v Speaker 2>Jones p atsd here. So a lot of the issues

1:30:05.537 --> 1:30:08.458
<v Speaker 2>when you talk about, you know, reading the field, anticipation

1:30:09.018 --> 1:30:11.178
<v Speaker 2>like that type of stuff, A lot of that was

1:30:11.338 --> 1:30:14.258
<v Speaker 2>the knocks on Justin Field. So this sounds familiar for

1:30:14.378 --> 1:30:17.298
<v Speaker 2>Chicago fans. And they also hate their coordinator. So all

1:30:17.338 --> 1:30:19.777
<v Speaker 2>of this sounds a lot the same as some of

1:30:19.817 --> 1:30:22.378
<v Speaker 2>the things that we've dealt with here over the last

1:30:22.418 --> 1:30:27.937
<v Speaker 2>couple of years with Chicago. What do you think though,

1:30:28.018 --> 1:30:30.218
<v Speaker 2>You're still in on Caleb and like, you know what

1:30:30.378 --> 1:30:32.418
<v Speaker 2>you you expect to see out of him on Sunday.

1:30:32.497 --> 1:30:35.338
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's still has some talent. I you know,

1:30:35.418 --> 1:30:39.418
<v Speaker 4>I'm expecting him to make some plays, but I think

1:30:39.497 --> 1:30:42.817
<v Speaker 4>again he's they're not allowing him to go fully into

1:30:42.857 --> 1:30:45.018
<v Speaker 4>his bag. And I wouldn't be surprised if if this

1:30:45.138 --> 1:30:47.537
<v Speaker 4>game turns into a little bit of a slog. You know,

1:30:47.617 --> 1:30:49.218
<v Speaker 4>there might be flashes here and there, but I'm not

1:30:49.298 --> 1:30:51.537
<v Speaker 4>expecting like three hundred yards or three touchdowns or anything

1:30:51.577 --> 1:30:52.338
<v Speaker 4>like that. Yeah.

1:30:52.458 --> 1:30:56.058
<v Speaker 2>So really his best game has been in London against Jacksonville,

1:30:56.418 --> 1:30:59.058
<v Speaker 2>which is not a very good team as we know.

1:30:59.258 --> 1:31:01.458
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, like Mac Jones this week, that's the that's

1:31:01.458 --> 1:31:02.258
<v Speaker 4>the word on the street, that.

1:31:02.258 --> 1:31:03.617
<v Speaker 2>Is the word on the streat. I might actually watch

1:31:03.657 --> 1:31:05.458
<v Speaker 2>that on tape just to see what he looks like.

1:31:05.657 --> 1:31:08.778
<v Speaker 4>I'm curious. Yeah, I'm curious. He had a good preseason.

1:31:08.978 --> 1:31:11.097
<v Speaker 2>We could do a Mac Jones minute next week maybe

1:31:11.138 --> 1:31:12.617
<v Speaker 2>if I if I have time, I think I think

1:31:12.657 --> 1:31:14.537
<v Speaker 2>we should. Yeah, I'll see if I have time.

1:31:15.138 --> 1:31:18.137
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but what if he's like good, he's really good,

1:31:19.378 --> 1:31:19.897
<v Speaker 4>and I think.

1:31:19.777 --> 1:31:22.378
<v Speaker 2>We have really good I think he could be serviceable.

1:31:22.537 --> 1:31:24.537
<v Speaker 4>We always know, I mean, like in this one game,

1:31:24.617 --> 1:31:26.817
<v Speaker 4>what if he's really good, I think we have a Jones.

1:31:27.458 --> 1:31:31.217
<v Speaker 4>They are no, they played the Eagles last week. It's Vikings,

1:31:31.978 --> 1:31:34.378
<v Speaker 4>so it's Brian Flores's Brian Flores.

1:31:34.458 --> 1:31:35.577
<v Speaker 2>He is not gonna be really good.

1:31:37.418 --> 1:31:41.577
<v Speaker 4>I think Peterson totally like dumped on Sam Darnald today too.

1:31:41.978 --> 1:31:44.378
<v Speaker 2>Yikes, Peterson talks at but he he.

1:31:44.577 --> 1:31:46.857
<v Speaker 4>He, he has his thoughts on quarterbacks. Hung on. I

1:31:46.897 --> 1:31:50.378
<v Speaker 4>want to see if I can find the quote, so yeah,

1:31:50.577 --> 1:31:54.697
<v Speaker 4>Peterson or Peterson p E t or p E d

1:31:55.058 --> 1:31:59.418
<v Speaker 4>Doug Peterson's with the d okay? Uh.

1:32:00.777 --> 1:32:02.458
<v Speaker 2>Other thing on the Bears that I had a thought

1:32:02.497 --> 1:32:04.337
<v Speaker 2>on as well, hang.

1:32:04.138 --> 1:32:07.097
<v Speaker 4>On, Doug Peterson asked earlier why Sam Donald has turned

1:32:07.138 --> 1:32:12.177
<v Speaker 4>it around this year? Justin Jefferson. I mean, he's not wrong,

1:32:12.458 --> 1:32:15.418
<v Speaker 4>it's but remember what he said about Mac and the

1:32:15.817 --> 1:32:17.617
<v Speaker 4>he's not New England anymore. He goes back to his

1:32:17.697 --> 1:32:22.338
<v Speaker 4>Patriots ways. He's not the fraid just rip on quarterbacks.

1:32:22.418 --> 1:32:23.218
<v Speaker 2>That's that's not right.

1:32:23.617 --> 1:32:23.777
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1:32:24.138 --> 1:32:26.258
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, the other thing I had a thought on with

1:32:26.338 --> 1:32:30.697
<v Speaker 2>the Bears is that, you know what, I I was

1:32:30.777 --> 1:32:35.057
<v Speaker 2>impressed with their process this offseason. And as we start

1:32:35.098 --> 1:32:37.737
<v Speaker 2>to turn the page into the offseason, we'll obviously have

1:32:37.817 --> 1:32:40.937
<v Speaker 2>a lot more conversations about this next you know, in

1:32:41.018 --> 1:32:44.737
<v Speaker 2>the next six months or whatever. But they did all

1:32:44.777 --> 1:32:48.137
<v Speaker 2>the right things to try to make this thing viable.

1:32:48.418 --> 1:32:52.977
<v Speaker 2>Like if you're the Patriots trading out of a top pick,

1:32:53.058 --> 1:32:54.897
<v Speaker 2>Let's say they get the number one pick like Chicago

1:32:54.978 --> 1:32:57.178
<v Speaker 2>had a couple of years ago. They trade out of

1:32:57.258 --> 1:33:01.137
<v Speaker 2>it to Carolina. Carolina takes Bryce Young. That obviously hasn't

1:33:01.178 --> 1:33:02.937
<v Speaker 2>worked out, But that's not the point I'm driving at.

1:33:03.497 --> 1:33:05.937
<v Speaker 2>The picks that they got back for that trade were insane,

1:33:06.218 --> 1:33:09.178
<v Speaker 2>Like they got four picks back and DJ Moore. So

1:33:09.298 --> 1:33:14.658
<v Speaker 2>they've used those picks on Darnell Wright, Tyreg Stevenson. Ironically,

1:33:16.737 --> 1:33:20.817
<v Speaker 2>now Caleb Caleb was Carolina's pick technically number one overall

1:33:20.897 --> 1:33:25.017
<v Speaker 2>last year, and then they still have Carolina's twenty twenty

1:33:25.058 --> 1:33:28.218
<v Speaker 2>five second as well, and then they traded one of

1:33:28.258 --> 1:33:31.617
<v Speaker 2>the picks for Montees Sweat, and they traded a pick

1:33:31.777 --> 1:33:34.577
<v Speaker 2>for Keenan Allen right like, and they have all this surplus.

1:33:34.937 --> 1:33:37.177
<v Speaker 2>So they did a nice job. I think of rebuilding

1:33:37.258 --> 1:33:39.737
<v Speaker 2>this roster, and I just look at it and think,

1:33:39.937 --> 1:33:43.097
<v Speaker 2>if Elliott Wolf can pull off something similar, maybe it's

1:33:43.178 --> 1:33:46.458
<v Speaker 2>not quite the Hall because I don't know if teams

1:33:46.458 --> 1:33:49.058
<v Speaker 2>are gonna look at any of these quarterbacks like they

1:33:49.138 --> 1:33:52.057
<v Speaker 2>looked at Bryce Young, but if he can pull off

1:33:52.098 --> 1:33:54.857
<v Speaker 2>a similar trade down and then just kind of fan

1:33:54.978 --> 1:33:58.298
<v Speaker 2>out those assets with trades and with draft picks, like

1:33:58.418 --> 1:34:00.298
<v Speaker 2>I think that this is a pretty good blueprint for

1:34:00.338 --> 1:34:00.937
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots.

1:34:01.138 --> 1:34:02.977
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean we've used the Texans a lot, but

1:34:03.418 --> 1:34:07.137
<v Speaker 4>the Bears path is certainly there for its absolutely therefore.

1:34:07.378 --> 1:34:09.378
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean, look, the Bears are four and four.

1:34:09.657 --> 1:34:11.817
<v Speaker 2>They're not terrible. They're not as good as they want

1:34:11.857 --> 1:34:14.058
<v Speaker 2>to be. The other couple of things I had on

1:34:14.138 --> 1:34:16.497
<v Speaker 2>the Bears and I want to talk about their defense too.

1:34:18.497 --> 1:34:22.057
<v Speaker 2>I think Keenan Allen might be kind of washed, Like, yeah,

1:34:22.258 --> 1:34:26.537
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look great for him. DJ Moore some weird

1:34:26.657 --> 1:34:28.097
<v Speaker 2>attitude stuff going.

1:34:27.978 --> 1:34:29.657
<v Speaker 4>On with it. Walked off the field mid play.

1:34:29.897 --> 1:34:32.098
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like walk off the field. His body language on

1:34:32.218 --> 1:34:34.777
<v Speaker 2>film is terrible. Like remember you're talking about the receivers

1:34:34.777 --> 1:34:36.817
<v Speaker 2>earlier on in the season with their body language like

1:34:36.897 --> 1:34:40.018
<v Speaker 2>Polk and Pop Douglas. It's similar with DJ Moore, and

1:34:40.058 --> 1:34:41.977
<v Speaker 2>I get it, like sometimes he's open and he's not

1:34:42.018 --> 1:34:44.418
<v Speaker 2>getting the ball and receivers are gonna get frustrated by that.

1:34:44.857 --> 1:34:47.458
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen a receiver walk off the field like

1:34:47.537 --> 1:34:50.777
<v Speaker 2>that before mid play. I don't care if you got hurt, Like,

1:34:50.857 --> 1:34:53.737
<v Speaker 2>I just have never seen that before. That was crazy.

1:34:54.338 --> 1:34:59.537
<v Speaker 2>His press conference this week was odd, weird, just talking

1:34:59.577 --> 1:35:03.537
<v Speaker 2>about that situation and just kind of like making light

1:35:03.617 --> 1:35:05.777
<v Speaker 2>of the fact that he just quit in the middle

1:35:05.817 --> 1:35:08.577
<v Speaker 2>of a play, and then also kind of not really

1:35:08.697 --> 1:35:10.817
<v Speaker 2>backing his head coach, like it was just a weird

1:35:10.978 --> 1:35:14.137
<v Speaker 2>vibe out of him in the press conference. And Roma

1:35:14.218 --> 1:35:16.937
<v Speaker 2>Dunsay is a good young player, but I think his

1:35:17.058 --> 1:35:19.737
<v Speaker 2>timing with Caleb is a problem right now. They're still

1:35:19.777 --> 1:35:24.098
<v Speaker 2>trying to work out. And I haven't necessarily seen the

1:35:24.218 --> 1:35:27.458
<v Speaker 2>explosive element to Romadonsay's game yet. I think he's a

1:35:27.537 --> 1:35:29.817
<v Speaker 2>really good receiver at the first two levels of the

1:35:29.897 --> 1:35:33.298
<v Speaker 2>defense already, but I haven't necessarily seen a guy that's

1:35:33.378 --> 1:35:36.178
<v Speaker 2>running by anybody or making any putting any fear into

1:35:36.218 --> 1:35:38.657
<v Speaker 2>anybody down the field. So what I'm trying to get

1:35:38.697 --> 1:35:40.937
<v Speaker 2>out with all of this is that the Bears offense

1:35:41.058 --> 1:35:44.418
<v Speaker 2>just looks dysfunctional, like they look kind of broken. Their

1:35:44.458 --> 1:35:49.257
<v Speaker 2>tape last week was terrible. They're spacing their execution body

1:35:49.378 --> 1:35:51.817
<v Speaker 2>language like across the board. And this is a team

1:35:51.857 --> 1:35:53.418
<v Speaker 2>that's four and four and two games out of a

1:35:53.458 --> 1:35:55.697
<v Speaker 2>playoff spot. It's not like they're out of it, so

1:35:55.817 --> 1:35:59.897
<v Speaker 2>that whole Bears operation offensively. They're twenty seventh in the

1:35:59.978 --> 1:36:04.218
<v Speaker 2>league in DVOA. They're just kind of look like a

1:36:04.258 --> 1:36:06.897
<v Speaker 2>team that sort of quit on the coaching a little bit.

1:36:07.178 --> 1:36:10.258
<v Speaker 2>I've been surprised to see how far, fast and quick

1:36:10.338 --> 1:36:13.537
<v Speaker 2>that's fallen off the rails you mentioned earlier in the

1:36:13.617 --> 1:36:16.697
<v Speaker 2>show Running the Football maybe a little bit this week.

1:36:17.258 --> 1:36:20.857
<v Speaker 2>This Bears run defenses is horrid. It's very bad. They're

1:36:20.937 --> 1:36:24.137
<v Speaker 2>thirtieth in DVA against the run. They're very bad against

1:36:24.178 --> 1:36:27.058
<v Speaker 2>schemes with pullers. So once again I am demanding to

1:36:27.138 --> 1:36:30.338
<v Speaker 2>see some downhill schemes, some gap schemes, pull, some go

1:36:30.817 --> 1:36:33.657
<v Speaker 2>and get downhill. At this Bears defense, they are giving

1:36:33.737 --> 1:36:38.577
<v Speaker 2>up seven yards of carry seven against pulling concepts right,

1:36:38.737 --> 1:36:42.977
<v Speaker 2>whether it's power, counter, g lead, whatever, seven yards of

1:36:43.058 --> 1:36:46.577
<v Speaker 2>carry is a huge number, so they are susceptible to that.

1:36:47.298 --> 1:36:49.937
<v Speaker 2>The two guys that worry me on the Bears defense,

1:36:50.577 --> 1:36:53.857
<v Speaker 2>obviously Montes Wet if he plays, is a problem out

1:36:53.897 --> 1:36:57.538
<v Speaker 2>on the outside. Tremaine Edmonds is a really good coverage linebacker,

1:36:57.657 --> 1:37:00.098
<v Speaker 2>and he's one of those guys that is going to

1:37:00.138 --> 1:37:03.057
<v Speaker 2>be hunting against a rookie quarterback right for a bad

1:37:03.138 --> 1:37:06.258
<v Speaker 2>throw over the middle that he can maybe intercept. But

1:37:06.338 --> 1:37:08.338
<v Speaker 2>what do you see about this Bears defense, because I

1:37:08.418 --> 1:37:11.857
<v Speaker 2>do think the Patriots might have some trouble passing the ball.

1:37:12.138 --> 1:37:15.258
<v Speaker 2>It's a pretty good pass defense, but they struggle a

1:37:15.338 --> 1:37:16.097
<v Speaker 2>lot against the run.

1:37:16.497 --> 1:37:18.298
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you, to get right game for somebody on

1:37:18.338 --> 1:37:21.018
<v Speaker 4>the ground, Yeah, to get right game for somebody, but

1:37:21.138 --> 1:37:22.857
<v Speaker 4>really on both sides of the ball. But yeah, this

1:37:22.937 --> 1:37:25.178
<v Speaker 4>is a Bears team that it hasn't done a good

1:37:25.258 --> 1:37:27.817
<v Speaker 4>job against the run by any metric. They're twenty ninth

1:37:27.897 --> 1:37:30.138
<v Speaker 4>in the league allowing five yards per carry, five even

1:37:30.178 --> 1:37:36.017
<v Speaker 4>yours per carry. I feel like a broken record because

1:37:36.018 --> 1:37:38.178
<v Speaker 4>I think we said this, not obviously not last week,

1:37:38.178 --> 1:37:39.458
<v Speaker 4>but I think we said it two weeks ago, like

1:37:39.537 --> 1:37:41.937
<v Speaker 4>this is a Patriots chance just start running the ball.

1:37:41.978 --> 1:37:44.137
<v Speaker 4>But this really is a Patriots chance to start running

1:37:44.138 --> 1:37:46.058
<v Speaker 4>the ball. And That's what I'm looking at. Like, I

1:37:46.098 --> 1:37:48.098
<v Speaker 4>don't know that Drake May needs to go out and

1:37:49.258 --> 1:37:52.657
<v Speaker 4>have this massive game. Obviously people want the quarterback duel

1:37:52.697 --> 1:37:55.418
<v Speaker 4>between him and Caleb Williams, but I think just as

1:37:55.497 --> 1:37:57.577
<v Speaker 4>much if the Patriots come out run the ball well

1:37:57.617 --> 1:38:00.137
<v Speaker 4>and win off that I think you feel good about it. Yeah,

1:38:00.338 --> 1:38:00.857
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

1:38:01.138 --> 1:38:03.977
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think this is a game that I would

1:38:04.018 --> 1:38:06.617
<v Speaker 2>be disappointed if they can't run the ball at all

1:38:06.697 --> 1:38:08.537
<v Speaker 2>in this game. They should be able to run the

1:38:08.577 --> 1:38:11.098
<v Speaker 2>ball against the Bears. This is a scheme game to

1:38:11.178 --> 1:38:13.617
<v Speaker 2>me as much as it is about a mentality thing

1:38:13.657 --> 1:38:15.497
<v Speaker 2>with the run game. There's a way to run the

1:38:15.537 --> 1:38:18.217
<v Speaker 2>ball against the Bears. There's a blueprint against the Bears

1:38:18.378 --> 1:38:20.737
<v Speaker 2>of how to run the football. The Cardinals just did

1:38:20.817 --> 1:38:22.897
<v Speaker 2>it last week with two hundred and thirteen yards on

1:38:22.978 --> 1:38:26.458
<v Speaker 2>the ground. Like, just follow the brew print, don't overthink it,

1:38:26.617 --> 1:38:30.097
<v Speaker 2>don't get too fancy, don't be running outside zone against

1:38:30.098 --> 1:38:32.418
<v Speaker 2>the team. I can't stop a power scheme right like

1:38:32.577 --> 1:38:36.257
<v Speaker 2>run downhill out this team, pull some guards, get Ramondre

1:38:36.338 --> 1:38:38.817
<v Speaker 2>Stevenson going, and then maybe Drake May only has to

1:38:38.897 --> 1:38:41.097
<v Speaker 2>drop back to past thirty times instead of fifty three

1:38:41.298 --> 1:38:43.937
<v Speaker 2>and we don't see as many turnovers in as many

1:38:44.058 --> 1:38:48.338
<v Speaker 2>catastrophic plays. So that's the Bears. I'm really curious about

1:38:48.378 --> 1:38:53.378
<v Speaker 2>how this goes for Caleb because so far it's been

1:38:53.418 --> 1:38:55.897
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of what some people that were anti

1:38:56.058 --> 1:38:58.577
<v Speaker 2>Caleb were worried about. Yeah, they look right so far.

1:38:58.617 --> 1:39:00.378
<v Speaker 4>And this is gonna be one where like if they lose,

1:39:00.458 --> 1:39:03.418
<v Speaker 4>for what the national viewers of this Patriots team, Yeah,

1:39:03.577 --> 1:39:05.857
<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be some big time questions he's gonna have

1:39:05.937 --> 1:39:08.617
<v Speaker 4>to face. And this was my take on the leadership

1:39:08.737 --> 1:39:11.817
<v Speaker 4>questions about Caleb Williams coming into the draft, was is

1:39:11.857 --> 1:39:12.657
<v Speaker 4>he the best leader?

1:39:12.817 --> 1:39:12.857
<v Speaker 5>Like?

1:39:12.978 --> 1:39:16.977
<v Speaker 4>No, probably not. If he's winning games, I think he'll

1:39:17.018 --> 1:39:19.097
<v Speaker 4>be fine. If he's losing games, it doesn't really matter

1:39:19.178 --> 1:39:20.937
<v Speaker 4>what kind of leader he is because the team's losing.

1:39:21.418 --> 1:39:22.737
<v Speaker 4>And this is where you're kind of getting to a

1:39:22.777 --> 1:39:26.977
<v Speaker 4>precipice where is, regardless of how he's handling himself as

1:39:26.978 --> 1:39:28.777
<v Speaker 4>a leader, is he gonna start losing guys because the

1:39:28.817 --> 1:39:30.017
<v Speaker 4>results aren't there on the field.

1:39:30.178 --> 1:39:33.977
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good point. And look, we said some

1:39:34.098 --> 1:39:37.418
<v Speaker 2>similar things about the Jaguars with Doug Peterson, and obviously

1:39:37.458 --> 1:39:39.737
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars played for him in London in that game

1:39:39.777 --> 1:39:42.218
<v Speaker 2>and they won that game pretty handedly, and and all

1:39:42.258 --> 1:39:45.537
<v Speaker 2>that stuff sort of quiets down. But nobody's see hotter

1:39:45.697 --> 1:39:48.098
<v Speaker 2>right now than Matt Eberflus, Like Matt Eberfu's on a

1:39:48.178 --> 1:39:51.537
<v Speaker 2>red hot seat. They lose on a hail mary against Washington.

1:39:51.897 --> 1:39:54.657
<v Speaker 2>That was an ugly, ugly sequence for coaching. You know,

1:39:54.737 --> 1:39:56.537
<v Speaker 2>the free yards that they gave up on the play

1:39:56.577 --> 1:39:59.418
<v Speaker 2>before the hail mary, the way they defended the Hail Mary.

1:39:59.577 --> 1:40:03.418
<v Speaker 2>I obviously put most of it on Tyreeks not having yeah,

1:40:03.497 --> 1:40:05.617
<v Speaker 2>being a knucklehead, but also at the same time, like

1:40:05.737 --> 1:40:08.497
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's coaching, like that's you need to have

1:40:08.617 --> 1:40:11.857
<v Speaker 2>your team buttoned up in those big situations. And then

1:40:11.897 --> 1:40:14.138
<v Speaker 2>they come out the following week against Arizona and get

1:40:14.178 --> 1:40:16.298
<v Speaker 2>their doors blown off of them by the Cardinals who

1:40:16.378 --> 1:40:20.817
<v Speaker 2>are frisky, Like the Cardinals have played well, especially lately,

1:40:21.378 --> 1:40:23.298
<v Speaker 2>but still you go in there and you basically have

1:40:23.418 --> 1:40:26.577
<v Speaker 2>no offense and you're twenty nine to nine, get blown out,

1:40:26.657 --> 1:40:31.097
<v Speaker 2>can't stop the run. No offense sounds familiar, like those

1:40:31.098 --> 1:40:34.378
<v Speaker 2>are bad football team boxes that they are checking. So

1:40:35.458 --> 1:40:38.018
<v Speaker 2>I would say that if the Bears lose to the

1:40:38.098 --> 1:40:40.218
<v Speaker 2>Patriots on Sunday, which I picked the Bear so I

1:40:40.258 --> 1:40:42.657
<v Speaker 2>don't think they will. But if the Patriots beat the

1:40:42.697 --> 1:40:46.378
<v Speaker 2>Bears on Sunday, if Mattiberflues gets fired Monday morning, I

1:40:46.537 --> 1:40:47.418
<v Speaker 2>will not be surprised.

1:40:47.458 --> 1:40:48.418
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised either.

1:40:48.497 --> 1:40:51.258
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's either him or Shane Waldron's going

1:40:51.617 --> 1:40:53.258
<v Speaker 2>I don't know which one might be Waldron, he.

1:40:53.657 --> 1:40:55.777
<v Speaker 4>Might have it might be Waldron, but somebody. Yeah, I

1:40:55.777 --> 1:40:57.737
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be surprised if somebody gets the ax for that.

1:40:57.937 --> 1:41:00.338
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's open up to some of

1:41:00.378 --> 1:41:02.577
<v Speaker 2>these or read some of these emails, I should say,

1:41:02.737 --> 1:41:04.537
<v Speaker 2>a couple of good ones, and if you want to

1:41:04.617 --> 1:41:06.458
<v Speaker 2>join in the last twenty minutes here of the show,

1:41:06.537 --> 1:41:09.537
<v Speaker 2>eight five to five, Pats five hundred is the phone number,

1:41:09.617 --> 1:41:11.657
<v Speaker 2>and we'll just kind of let you guys take us

1:41:11.697 --> 1:41:14.097
<v Speaker 2>here to the end at four o'clock, So make sure

1:41:14.497 --> 1:41:16.777
<v Speaker 2>feel free to call in and give us your take.

1:41:16.897 --> 1:41:20.897
<v Speaker 2>But we have a lot of emails here Alex about

1:41:21.018 --> 1:41:23.418
<v Speaker 2>all of our takes, you know, about the coaching and

1:41:23.497 --> 1:41:26.737
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff, just asking us why we

1:41:26.897 --> 1:41:32.338
<v Speaker 2>are not throwing more criticism at and about the front office.

1:41:32.378 --> 1:41:35.857
<v Speaker 2>And look, I'll just put this out there. In season,

1:41:36.298 --> 1:41:39.378
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really like too focused on the personnel train,

1:41:39.577 --> 1:41:42.258
<v Speaker 2>like I yeah, but like right now where I'm in

1:41:42.298 --> 1:41:44.218
<v Speaker 2>the weeds, like I'm in the trenches, I'm in the

1:41:44.378 --> 1:41:48.138
<v Speaker 2>x's and o's, I'm on the film like we we

1:41:48.298 --> 1:41:50.577
<v Speaker 2>are in we love the off season, like we are

1:41:50.617 --> 1:41:53.458
<v Speaker 2>an off season podcast. But that the time right now

1:41:53.617 --> 1:41:56.817
<v Speaker 2>is not about the roster. So that's sort of part

1:41:56.857 --> 1:41:59.218
<v Speaker 2>of why I I don't necessarily bring up Elliott wolf

1:41:59.298 --> 1:41:59.537
<v Speaker 2>A Ton.

1:41:59.777 --> 1:42:02.458
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm with you, and I think I've said my

1:42:02.577 --> 1:42:05.098
<v Speaker 4>piece plenty on the construction of this offensive line or

1:42:05.178 --> 1:42:09.258
<v Speaker 4>lack thereof, like major, major miss. I assume that's because

1:42:09.298 --> 1:42:11.617
<v Speaker 4>the deadline. I know people with the emails, because the deadline,

1:42:11.617 --> 1:42:14.777
<v Speaker 4>I know people were upset. The big move was never there.

1:42:15.458 --> 1:42:18.018
<v Speaker 4>It was just never there, nothing that made sense. I

1:42:18.178 --> 1:42:20.137
<v Speaker 4>will say, I think it is a miss not moving

1:42:20.218 --> 1:42:23.177
<v Speaker 4>one of kJ Osborne or Taekwon Thornton, if not both,

1:42:23.617 --> 1:42:25.977
<v Speaker 4>I understand they want to get value for the player.

1:42:26.537 --> 1:42:28.497
<v Speaker 4>kJ Osborne is not going to be here next year.

1:42:28.777 --> 1:42:31.777
<v Speaker 4>Taekwon Thornton maybe because he has another year on his contract.

1:42:31.817 --> 1:42:35.418
<v Speaker 4>You trade in the offseason whatever. kJ Osborne is not

1:42:35.418 --> 1:42:37.697
<v Speaker 4>gonna be here for next year. A sixth round pick

1:42:37.817 --> 1:42:40.018
<v Speaker 4>isn't a lot, but it's something else you have to

1:42:40.098 --> 1:42:41.657
<v Speaker 4>throw into a trade that you don't have. If you

1:42:41.777 --> 1:42:44.458
<v Speaker 4>let Osborne walk, even a seventh round pick pick swap

1:42:44.617 --> 1:42:46.497
<v Speaker 4>right seventh becoming a sixth you don't have that. They

1:42:46.497 --> 1:42:48.218
<v Speaker 4>have a ton of seventh round picks they could have

1:42:48.258 --> 1:42:51.777
<v Speaker 4>pick swapped or something. Not getting that deal done is

1:42:51.777 --> 1:42:53.777
<v Speaker 4>a miss. Yeah, I don't know the I mean, here

1:42:53.817 --> 1:42:55.298
<v Speaker 4>we go. We did it. We did five minutes on

1:42:55.338 --> 1:42:57.138
<v Speaker 4>them not getting that deal done. I don't know that

1:42:57.178 --> 1:42:58.497
<v Speaker 4>we were going to open up the show. I don't

1:42:58.497 --> 1:42:59.977
<v Speaker 4>know that we were gonna do half an hour on

1:43:00.098 --> 1:43:03.897
<v Speaker 4>them not trading kJ Osborne. But to your point, I've

1:43:03.978 --> 1:43:06.897
<v Speaker 4>said my piece on the construction of this roster, it's

1:43:07.537 --> 1:43:09.977
<v Speaker 4>they were misses this offseason. They were significant misses this

1:43:10.058 --> 1:43:12.657
<v Speaker 4>offseason in the draft as well. It's looking like but

1:43:13.577 --> 1:43:16.737
<v Speaker 4>we'll we do that in January. We don't really do

1:43:16.857 --> 1:43:19.098
<v Speaker 4>a ton of that November because it's just we'll get

1:43:19.138 --> 1:43:21.098
<v Speaker 4>on the coaching staff in November. We talked about the win,

1:43:21.178 --> 1:43:23.418
<v Speaker 4>we talked about changing the offensive line. Yeah, that's this

1:43:23.537 --> 1:43:24.338
<v Speaker 4>time of year. Yeah.

1:43:24.697 --> 1:43:29.617
<v Speaker 2>My thing on Elliott Wolf, the one thing that I

1:43:29.697 --> 1:43:34.137
<v Speaker 2>would give him right now is the grace of last

1:43:34.298 --> 1:43:39.657
<v Speaker 2>off season, him and Grodmeo's first on the job and

1:43:40.098 --> 1:43:42.777
<v Speaker 2>just being close to it a little bit like obviously

1:43:43.617 --> 1:43:45.897
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to overplay that, like I'm not close

1:43:45.978 --> 1:43:47.577
<v Speaker 2>to it, but you know what I'm trying to say,

1:43:49.298 --> 1:43:51.458
<v Speaker 2>it was a whirlwind, Like it was a lot like

1:43:51.577 --> 1:43:55.617
<v Speaker 2>you you changed hands, right, you changed regimes? You what

1:43:55.817 --> 1:43:59.097
<v Speaker 2>the greatest head coach of all time walks out the building.

1:43:59.697 --> 1:44:02.378
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people realize just how much of a

1:44:03.018 --> 1:44:07.258
<v Speaker 2>infrastructure Bill had built here over twenty plus years. I

1:44:07.338 --> 1:44:10.418
<v Speaker 2>know that sounds like it should be obvious. And so

1:44:11.178 --> 1:44:13.897
<v Speaker 2>a lot was going on. They had a really bad

1:44:14.018 --> 1:44:18.937
<v Speaker 2>roster that they inherited. They had no quarterback, and they

1:44:19.018 --> 1:44:22.657
<v Speaker 2>really had no culture or nothing to attract free agents

1:44:22.697 --> 1:44:26.138
<v Speaker 2>with other than money. So I look at what they

1:44:26.218 --> 1:44:29.098
<v Speaker 2>did in the off season, and I say, if they

1:44:29.218 --> 1:44:31.977
<v Speaker 2>came out of that off season last year with Drake

1:44:32.058 --> 1:44:35.657
<v Speaker 2>May as a franchise quarterback, then I'm not saying that

1:44:35.697 --> 1:44:37.537
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving them an A, but I'm giving them a

1:44:37.577 --> 1:44:41.057
<v Speaker 2>passing grade. Right, I give him a C minus at

1:44:41.098 --> 1:44:41.777
<v Speaker 2>the bare minimum.

1:44:41.857 --> 1:44:44.937
<v Speaker 4>So I said on the night they took May, I

1:44:45.058 --> 1:44:47.857
<v Speaker 4>said they had a good draft by drafting Drake May,

1:44:47.897 --> 1:44:50.737
<v Speaker 4>they had a good draft. The rest of the rounds

1:44:50.777 --> 1:44:53.338
<v Speaker 4>two through seven will decide if it's a good draft

1:44:53.418 --> 1:44:55.218
<v Speaker 4>or great draft. And you were not a great. No,

1:44:55.338 --> 1:44:56.857
<v Speaker 4>we're certainly not a great. But they had a good

1:44:56.937 --> 1:44:59.138
<v Speaker 4>draft taking Drake Right, there was all the temptation to

1:44:59.178 --> 1:45:01.497
<v Speaker 4>trade down. Do you move down for JJ McCarthy, Do

1:45:01.577 --> 1:45:04.537
<v Speaker 4>you take a tackle or receiver? I know it's oh,

1:45:04.657 --> 1:45:07.697
<v Speaker 4>he made the obvious decision. He didn't. He didn't. He did.

1:45:07.937 --> 1:45:10.017
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the people saying that are the same

1:45:10.058 --> 1:45:11.697
<v Speaker 4>people who wanted them to take JJ McCarthy.

1:45:11.857 --> 1:45:14.777
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I just I feel really good about

1:45:14.817 --> 1:45:15.218
<v Speaker 2>that pick.

1:45:15.338 --> 1:45:16.058
<v Speaker 4>I think we all do.

1:45:16.897 --> 1:45:19.937
<v Speaker 2>And they went through free agency. And if you want

1:45:19.937 --> 1:45:22.977
<v Speaker 2>to blame Elliott Woolf for this, then then fine, Like

1:45:23.018 --> 1:45:24.817
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to tell you how to think. But

1:45:24.937 --> 1:45:28.378
<v Speaker 2>they went through free agency, and they tried to throw

1:45:28.418 --> 1:45:31.537
<v Speaker 2>a bag of money at Calvin Ridley, and Calvin Ridley

1:45:31.657 --> 1:45:34.017
<v Speaker 2>just didn't want to come here. They couldn't attract him

1:45:34.058 --> 1:45:37.178
<v Speaker 2>to come here. He picked the Titans over the Patriots.

1:45:37.218 --> 1:45:39.577
<v Speaker 2>But really, just talking to some of the Tennessee people

1:45:39.697 --> 1:45:42.298
<v Speaker 2>last week in the lead up to that game, they

1:45:42.978 --> 1:45:45.497
<v Speaker 2>felt like it was never the Patriots versus the Titans.

1:45:45.537 --> 1:45:48.097
<v Speaker 2>It was really the Titans versus the Jaguars, right going

1:45:48.138 --> 1:45:50.697
<v Speaker 2>back to Jacksonville, Like the Patriots were kind of the

1:45:50.817 --> 1:45:53.777
<v Speaker 2>third team and that entire thing. So they couldn't get

1:45:53.857 --> 1:45:56.697
<v Speaker 2>Calvin Ridley, they couldn't lure Calvin Ridley here. So if

1:45:56.697 --> 1:45:59.138
<v Speaker 2>you want to criticize Elliott wolf for not being a

1:45:59.218 --> 1:46:02.497
<v Speaker 2>better closer in terms of that deal, then I guess

1:46:02.577 --> 1:46:05.177
<v Speaker 2>I can hear that, but the top of the market

1:46:05.298 --> 1:46:09.417
<v Speaker 2>free agents were not interested in signing with the Patriots.

1:46:09.978 --> 1:46:12.737
<v Speaker 2>They couldn't get those guys to take their money like,

1:46:12.857 --> 1:46:16.218
<v Speaker 2>they just couldn't. So that was a big piece of it.

1:46:17.657 --> 1:46:20.178
<v Speaker 2>And then the draft is where I really have my

1:46:20.298 --> 1:46:24.738
<v Speaker 2>second guesses. But what I'm getting at is next offseason.

1:46:25.258 --> 1:46:27.497
<v Speaker 2>And I understand that there's not a lot of faith

1:46:27.978 --> 1:46:31.138
<v Speaker 2>in Elliott Wolf running the show next off season for

1:46:31.218 --> 1:46:34.258
<v Speaker 2>some people. But next off season to me is the

1:46:34.338 --> 1:46:39.857
<v Speaker 2>off season where I need to see multiple blue chip

1:46:40.178 --> 1:46:44.137
<v Speaker 2>caliber players added to this roster. You don't have a quarterback,

1:46:44.218 --> 1:46:46.097
<v Speaker 2>like you don't need a quarterback. Excuse me, as whatever

1:46:46.298 --> 1:46:49.338
<v Speaker 2>it's not, it's not on the list. And so now

1:46:49.418 --> 1:46:52.298
<v Speaker 2>when you have your first round draft pick, you're gonna

1:46:52.298 --> 1:46:54.497
<v Speaker 2>be taking a position player. You're not gonna be taking

1:46:54.537 --> 1:46:57.458
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback, which is huge. Don't And and this is

1:46:57.577 --> 1:47:00.218
<v Speaker 2>maybe another piece of it too for me, as you

1:47:00.298 --> 1:47:02.817
<v Speaker 2>and I are as big of draft nerds as you'll

1:47:02.857 --> 1:47:05.338
<v Speaker 2>find in this market, I think I'm comfortable with saying

1:47:05.418 --> 1:47:08.458
<v Speaker 2>that that we are two of the guys that nerd

1:47:08.537 --> 1:47:10.537
<v Speaker 2>out more about the draft. I watch them when the

1:47:10.617 --> 1:47:14.057
<v Speaker 2>time comes that nerd out about the draft more than

1:47:14.178 --> 1:47:18.697
<v Speaker 2>just about anybody. It is incredibly hard to build your

1:47:18.737 --> 1:47:21.218
<v Speaker 2>team on Day two and day three picks. So when

1:47:21.258 --> 1:47:23.338
<v Speaker 2>you take the day one pick out, because that has

1:47:23.418 --> 1:47:26.257
<v Speaker 2>to go to the quarterback. And what we're really talking

1:47:26.298 --> 1:47:32.218
<v Speaker 2>about is Cadaen Wallace and Leyden Robinson and Marcella's dial.

1:47:32.418 --> 1:47:34.817
<v Speaker 4>Especially when you miss runs a key position.

1:47:34.978 --> 1:47:40.217
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jaheim Bell, Like we're talking about guys, Yeah, Javon Baker,

1:47:40.857 --> 1:47:43.378
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Polk is the one that I will not give them, you.

1:47:43.458 --> 1:47:45.817
<v Speaker 4>Said day two and three. I know, but what do

1:47:45.857 --> 1:47:47.817
<v Speaker 4>you mean not give them? What do you mean?

1:47:48.338 --> 1:47:51.497
<v Speaker 2>I guess I should have rephrased from day two and three.

1:47:51.577 --> 1:47:54.737
<v Speaker 2>You're right, I did phrase it that way. Outside of

1:47:54.777 --> 1:47:57.577
<v Speaker 2>the top fifty, all right. Anything outside of the top

1:47:57.657 --> 1:48:00.857
<v Speaker 2>fifty to me is you're you're playing darts. Yeah, you're

1:48:00.937 --> 1:48:01.458
<v Speaker 2>throwing dart.

1:48:01.497 --> 1:48:02.737
<v Speaker 4>You want to hit on one or two of those

1:48:02.777 --> 1:48:03.338
<v Speaker 4>guys ideally?

1:48:03.497 --> 1:48:06.378
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And when you say hit, it's that they can

1:48:06.458 --> 1:48:08.657
<v Speaker 2>play in the NFL. It's not that those guys are

1:48:08.737 --> 1:48:11.617
<v Speaker 2>star players for you on your team. It's that you

1:48:11.777 --> 1:48:14.298
<v Speaker 2>hit on a guy, uh, you know, in the third

1:48:14.458 --> 1:48:18.338
<v Speaker 2>round that can competently play the position you drafted him.

1:48:18.378 --> 1:48:21.897
<v Speaker 2>To play. That's a different conversation than what the Patriots see.

1:48:21.897 --> 1:48:26.258
<v Speaker 2>The Patriots need frontline, blue chip, top of the roster talent,

1:48:26.817 --> 1:48:30.338
<v Speaker 2>so they're not talking about guys that just fill in

1:48:30.537 --> 1:48:34.937
<v Speaker 2>the roster. Right, So I give them that grace because

1:48:35.737 --> 1:48:38.657
<v Speaker 2>this off season they're gonna have one hundred million dollars

1:48:38.697 --> 1:48:41.537
<v Speaker 2>in cap space. I don't I gave him one off

1:48:41.577 --> 1:48:43.617
<v Speaker 2>season for the excuse that nobody wants to come here.

1:48:43.657 --> 1:48:44.577
<v Speaker 2>I don't give you two.

1:48:44.897 --> 1:48:47.098
<v Speaker 4>Right now that they've seen Drake May, the hope is.

1:48:47.138 --> 1:48:49.737
<v Speaker 2>That close the deal?

1:48:50.298 --> 1:48:50.418
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1:48:50.978 --> 1:48:53.777
<v Speaker 4>And then Drake May. Remember when they sent Tom Brady

1:48:53.857 --> 1:48:56.458
<v Speaker 4>and Kelly Olynnock to try to send Kevin Durant signed

1:48:56.497 --> 1:48:58.418
<v Speaker 4>Kevin Durant? Where's that on the cape on the Vineyard?

1:48:58.458 --> 1:49:01.858
<v Speaker 2>It was actually as actually the Hampton and the Hampton's.

1:49:01.497 --> 1:49:05.817
<v Speaker 4>Whatever, Get Drake May and throw Jason Tatum on the

1:49:05.857 --> 1:49:08.737
<v Speaker 4>Oh no it'll be April. He'll be playing, but maybe

1:49:08.737 --> 1:49:10.418
<v Speaker 4>they have an off day. Throw Jason Tatum on the

1:49:10.458 --> 1:49:11.897
<v Speaker 4>plane out there to go get your receiver.

1:49:12.098 --> 1:49:15.497
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that that's I gave him one off season

1:49:15.617 --> 1:49:17.617
<v Speaker 2>with that, right, You really don't have an identity, you

1:49:17.697 --> 1:49:19.777
<v Speaker 2>don't have a culture. Nobody knows what's going on here.

1:49:19.897 --> 1:49:23.098
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a tough situation to walk into as a

1:49:23.298 --> 1:49:26.777
<v Speaker 2>free agent with options like Calvin Ridley, like picking the

1:49:26.817 --> 1:49:29.978
<v Speaker 2>Patriots in that spot, it was always a little bit unrealistic.

1:49:30.537 --> 1:49:33.257
<v Speaker 2>So I gave him that for one year. Next offseason,

1:49:33.298 --> 1:49:36.338
<v Speaker 2>I don't give him that. And with the draft right now,

1:49:36.458 --> 1:49:38.697
<v Speaker 2>and it's early, and I know everybody's kind of has

1:49:38.777 --> 1:49:40.857
<v Speaker 2>this take right now that the draft stinks sat aside

1:49:40.857 --> 1:49:43.937
<v Speaker 2>of Drake May, but calling for what it is, it

1:49:44.218 --> 1:49:44.937
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like a.

1:49:44.937 --> 1:49:46.378
<v Speaker 4>Great draft anything.

1:49:46.497 --> 1:49:49.418
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the pick that I really hold against them

1:49:49.418 --> 1:49:53.697
<v Speaker 2>a lot is Jalen Polk. And again, just like with Caleb,

1:49:53.817 --> 1:49:56.817
<v Speaker 2>this isn't revisionist history. I wrote it at the time,

1:49:57.378 --> 1:49:59.777
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't the biggest fan of Jalen Polk's coming into

1:49:59.817 --> 1:50:01.697
<v Speaker 2>this draft. I'm not saying I thought that he's stunk

1:50:01.978 --> 1:50:04.777
<v Speaker 2>or couldn't play. I definitely didn't see this Like I

1:50:04.817 --> 1:50:07.817
<v Speaker 2>thought that he was going to be like everybody else

1:50:07.937 --> 1:50:11.977
<v Speaker 2>kind of did, like a steady Jacoby Meyers, Tyler Boyd

1:50:12.138 --> 1:50:15.737
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know, type of player. Like I thought that

1:50:15.857 --> 1:50:18.258
<v Speaker 2>that was sort of where he was going to fit

1:50:18.378 --> 1:50:23.378
<v Speaker 2>into an NFL hierarchy, probably like a solid to low

1:50:23.497 --> 1:50:27.817
<v Speaker 2>end number two receiver, right, And that's good. The Patriots

1:50:27.857 --> 1:50:30.378
<v Speaker 2>needed somebody like that. I think they still need somebody

1:50:30.657 --> 1:50:35.298
<v Speaker 2>like that. But my concerns with him are all the

1:50:35.418 --> 1:50:38.897
<v Speaker 2>concerns that we're seeing on the field, you know, which

1:50:38.978 --> 1:50:44.617
<v Speaker 2>is separation ability, diamondamic route running ability, the reliance on

1:50:44.897 --> 1:50:48.777
<v Speaker 2>contested catches or catches in traffic, and finishing through contact.

1:50:49.218 --> 1:50:51.857
<v Speaker 2>It's one thing to finish through contact and make all

1:50:51.897 --> 1:50:55.817
<v Speaker 2>those contested catches playing at the college level. This level,

1:50:55.897 --> 1:50:59.138
<v Speaker 2>the physicality is much more significant. And maybe it's just

1:50:59.178 --> 1:51:02.058
<v Speaker 2>an adjudtment that he has to go through, but he

1:51:02.338 --> 1:51:04.977
<v Speaker 2>that skill was always going to make or break his

1:51:05.138 --> 1:51:07.817
<v Speaker 2>NFL career. Yeah, whether he could finish through contact at

1:51:07.857 --> 1:51:10.977
<v Speaker 2>this level or not was always going to determine his

1:51:11.138 --> 1:51:13.777
<v Speaker 2>success or failure in the NFL, and so far he

1:51:13.857 --> 1:51:16.817
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been able to. So right now, that pick is

1:51:16.857 --> 1:51:20.418
<v Speaker 2>looking trending towards the wrong direction. I hate using the

1:51:20.458 --> 1:51:23.338
<v Speaker 2>word bust this early on in a player's career, but

1:51:23.458 --> 1:51:25.177
<v Speaker 2>it's not trending in a great direction.

1:51:25.298 --> 1:51:25.378
<v Speaker 3>Well.

1:51:25.418 --> 1:51:27.298
<v Speaker 4>I also think when you look at and there was

1:51:27.338 --> 1:51:29.937
<v Speaker 4>reporting at the time that they were considering moving into

1:51:29.937 --> 1:51:32.298
<v Speaker 4>the back end the first round and yeah, whether that

1:51:32.418 --> 1:51:35.057
<v Speaker 4>be for a receiver like Xavier ly Get or maybe

1:51:35.098 --> 1:51:37.537
<v Speaker 4>a tackle. You know, what would that have cost? Probably

1:51:37.617 --> 1:51:41.298
<v Speaker 4>that what was it, thirty fifth pick that that whatever

1:51:41.298 --> 1:51:43.537
<v Speaker 4>their original second round pick was thirty fifth, thirty six,

1:51:43.617 --> 1:51:46.137
<v Speaker 4>and you had all those picks, stock Pole in the fourth.

1:51:46.657 --> 1:51:50.018
<v Speaker 4>So if you could Jalen Polk and then one of

1:51:50.258 --> 1:51:55.057
<v Speaker 4>Leyden Robinson or Javon Baker. Yeah, instead of those guys,

1:51:55.098 --> 1:51:56.777
<v Speaker 4>you could have had xavierly Get, or you could have

1:51:56.817 --> 1:52:01.298
<v Speaker 4>had Tyler Geitton or whoever. Right, Patrick Paulman like starting

1:52:01.298 --> 1:52:03.897
<v Speaker 4>to look like maybe investing those picks and moving up

1:52:04.657 --> 1:52:05.577
<v Speaker 4>might have helped them out more.

1:52:05.937 --> 1:52:08.817
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a tough one and I think it's also tough.

1:52:08.857 --> 1:52:11.697
<v Speaker 2>And I again, you can go look up my wide

1:52:11.737 --> 1:52:15.937
<v Speaker 2>receiver rankings, Like you traded the pick that was Lad McConkie,

1:52:16.497 --> 1:52:19.017
<v Speaker 2>and Lad McConkie's had a much better rookie season than

1:52:19.098 --> 1:52:21.537
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Polk has has been much more productive.

1:52:21.418 --> 1:52:22.537
<v Speaker 4>And Ladi McConkie's.

1:52:22.577 --> 1:52:24.777
<v Speaker 2>The difference between the two of them was Lad McConkie

1:52:24.897 --> 1:52:27.058
<v Speaker 2>was much better and more dynamic at the top of

1:52:27.098 --> 1:52:29.218
<v Speaker 2>his routes to create separation. He was a much better,

1:52:29.897 --> 1:52:32.497
<v Speaker 2>more you know not much better route runner necessarily, but

1:52:32.617 --> 1:52:35.937
<v Speaker 2>like just a more dynamic route runner, more explosive route runner.

1:52:36.418 --> 1:52:39.178
<v Speaker 2>Then Jalen Polk was in college and so far Lad

1:52:39.338 --> 1:52:42.057
<v Speaker 2>McConkie has been a hit for the Chargers and your

1:52:42.098 --> 1:52:45.458
<v Speaker 2>guy hasn't been. So that group of five we always

1:52:45.537 --> 1:52:50.017
<v Speaker 2>said this at the time. You know, Polk, mcconkee, leget Coleman,

1:52:50.178 --> 1:52:53.057
<v Speaker 2>Kean coleman in Buffalo. I think there was one more

1:52:53.178 --> 1:52:55.737
<v Speaker 2>right that went and that uh in that run in

1:52:55.817 --> 1:53:01.378
<v Speaker 2>the early second Rad McConkie, McConkie, Coleman, Polk.

1:53:02.697 --> 1:53:04.378
<v Speaker 4>There's one. There's one or two more. I think that

1:53:04.537 --> 1:53:07.298
<v Speaker 4>was it. Like well, Brian Thomas Junior went no, no,

1:53:07.418 --> 1:53:10.298
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna like like twenty twenty five draft hang.

1:53:10.218 --> 1:53:13.018
<v Speaker 2>On well Worthy obviously is one of them too, but

1:53:13.058 --> 1:53:14.977
<v Speaker 2>he was a worthy one of twenty eight. Yeah.

1:53:15.138 --> 1:53:18.817
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Piersall went at thirty one, get Coleman. So four

1:53:18.857 --> 1:53:21.138
<v Speaker 4>in a row. Pierre saw to get Coleman, McConkie, the

1:53:21.218 --> 1:53:23.537
<v Speaker 4>last two picks the first, the first two picks of

1:53:23.537 --> 1:53:25.977
<v Speaker 4>the second, Patriots had the mconkee pick. They traded out.

1:53:26.258 --> 1:53:27.937
<v Speaker 4>They moved down a couple spots for a Polk.

1:53:28.258 --> 1:53:30.737
<v Speaker 2>So he's going to be compared to those guys, fair

1:53:30.817 --> 1:53:32.537
<v Speaker 2>or not, for the rest of his NFL career, And

1:53:32.617 --> 1:53:34.938
<v Speaker 2>right now it's looking like all those guys are contributing

1:53:35.058 --> 1:53:38.817
<v Speaker 2>more to their teams than Jalen Polk. Although I will

1:53:38.857 --> 1:53:41.577
<v Speaker 2>take a small victory lap on Keon Coleman because yeah,

1:53:41.657 --> 1:53:43.857
<v Speaker 2>he's been great. Yeah he's been exactly what I thought.

1:53:43.937 --> 1:53:47.138
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take this call from Tim and and

1:53:47.138 --> 1:53:48.817
<v Speaker 2>then we'll wrap up the show. What's up Tim?

1:53:50.418 --> 1:53:53.497
<v Speaker 6>Hey, guys, let's do a Boston Sports minute here. My

1:53:53.617 --> 1:53:55.897
<v Speaker 6>Celtics will loss bother you at all. I'm not sure

1:53:55.897 --> 1:53:57.697
<v Speaker 6>how many teams would be in that game down two

1:53:57.697 --> 1:53:59.777
<v Speaker 6>of the three best players, but I mean it was

1:53:59.817 --> 1:54:01.577
<v Speaker 6>the first good defense they faced, and they got held

1:54:01.577 --> 1:54:03.537
<v Speaker 6>to forty points in the first half. I mean, I'm

1:54:03.577 --> 1:54:05.218
<v Speaker 6>glad they figured it out in the third, but still

1:54:05.258 --> 1:54:07.737
<v Speaker 6>a little worrying. What do you guys think about Kada?

1:54:07.978 --> 1:54:09.097
<v Speaker 6>Do you see anything real in him?

1:54:09.817 --> 1:54:10.857
<v Speaker 2>I love this help out there.

1:54:10.937 --> 1:54:14.537
<v Speaker 4>Thanks thanks for the car literally talking about this earlier a.

1:54:14.537 --> 1:54:18.098
<v Speaker 2>Little Boston Sports minute. Why God threw a throwback my

1:54:18.258 --> 1:54:21.177
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the Celtics. I am never going to panic

1:54:21.338 --> 1:54:24.378
<v Speaker 2>over a game in November. It's just way too early

1:54:24.458 --> 1:54:26.737
<v Speaker 2>in the season for me to feel that way, and

1:54:26.777 --> 1:54:30.097
<v Speaker 2>they've really played great outside of this first half last

1:54:30.218 --> 1:54:34.418
<v Speaker 2>night in that game, But I would say that the

1:54:34.538 --> 1:54:38.138
<v Speaker 2>one thing that does concern me, like a tiny little bit,

1:54:38.338 --> 1:54:40.977
<v Speaker 2>I guess with the Celtics is that right now they've

1:54:40.978 --> 1:54:44.017
<v Speaker 2>been really reliant on like Peyton Pritchard and Derek White

1:54:44.138 --> 1:54:47.458
<v Speaker 2>and those guys just unking up threes and making them

1:54:48.098 --> 1:54:50.217
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too much. But maybe that's just because

1:54:50.298 --> 1:54:52.897
<v Speaker 2>you know, Brezingis and Jalen are Is playing and they

1:54:53.058 --> 1:54:55.178
<v Speaker 2>become a little bit more balanced. So once those guys

1:54:55.258 --> 1:54:58.538
<v Speaker 2>get back. But overall, I'm not concerned at all. I'm

1:54:58.578 --> 1:54:59.418
<v Speaker 2>not super concerned.

1:54:59.498 --> 1:55:02.458
<v Speaker 4>One thing from last night, and you kind of mentioned

1:55:02.498 --> 1:55:04.458
<v Speaker 4>that the need to make threes with the Warriors didn't

1:55:04.458 --> 1:55:06.378
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why they didn't do it. More was

1:55:06.538 --> 1:55:09.897
<v Speaker 4>they just came right up and played essentially like when

1:55:09.937 --> 1:55:12.138
<v Speaker 4>I say press coverage, I mean in the football sense. Yeah,

1:55:12.218 --> 1:55:14.258
<v Speaker 4>press coverage of the on the guys with the ball

1:55:14.498 --> 1:55:16.897
<v Speaker 4>and dared them to drive to the basket. And that

1:55:17.018 --> 1:55:19.218
<v Speaker 4>possession the last possession at the end of the first half.

1:55:19.538 --> 1:55:21.738
<v Speaker 4>Here we go again, talking possession at the end of

1:55:21.778 --> 1:55:24.738
<v Speaker 4>the first half. It's it's I think it was was

1:55:24.818 --> 1:55:28.378
<v Speaker 4>Derek White and Drew Holliday or Peyton Pritchard and Drew Holiday.

1:55:29.458 --> 1:55:30.858
<v Speaker 4>The two of them are just kind of stay next

1:55:30.858 --> 1:55:32.698
<v Speaker 4>to each other at the top of the key, passing

1:55:32.738 --> 1:55:35.298
<v Speaker 4>the ball back and forth. Well, the Warriors defenders are

1:55:35.338 --> 1:55:37.977
<v Speaker 4>right there in their chest, like Tatum needed to move

1:55:38.058 --> 1:55:40.017
<v Speaker 4>off the ball or go to the basket or something.

1:55:40.098 --> 1:55:42.977
<v Speaker 4>And it goes back to what's been a core problem

1:55:43.058 --> 1:55:45.017
<v Speaker 4>for this team, which is when the three is not falling,

1:55:45.098 --> 1:55:48.257
<v Speaker 4>what's playing b playing. Bee has been attacking the basket,

1:55:48.338 --> 1:55:50.937
<v Speaker 4>but their two best players in attacking the basket are

1:55:51.018 --> 1:55:54.098
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Brown and Chris SOPs Porzingis. So, you know, to

1:55:54.258 --> 1:55:57.057
<v Speaker 4>lose by six the way they played without those two guys,

1:55:57.138 --> 1:56:00.658
<v Speaker 4>I'm not super worried about it, you know, late in

1:56:00.738 --> 1:56:02.818
<v Speaker 4>the game. I think they could have had some better possessions.

1:56:03.218 --> 1:56:05.058
<v Speaker 4>The one thing is like, yeah, it would have been

1:56:05.098 --> 1:56:07.298
<v Speaker 4>nice to beat Steve Kerr after the whole Olympics thing.

1:56:07.338 --> 1:56:10.138
<v Speaker 4>But Tatum played well. I do like Kita now you

1:56:10.338 --> 1:56:11.977
<v Speaker 4>put him, you called it Robert Wakes.

1:56:12.618 --> 1:56:14.098
<v Speaker 2>I'll get to that in a second. All right, just

1:56:14.178 --> 1:56:16.218
<v Speaker 2>one really quick thought and then we'll get to that.

1:56:16.778 --> 1:56:19.498
<v Speaker 2>So last night. One thing that I did notice, and

1:56:19.618 --> 1:56:23.418
<v Speaker 2>they love the high pick and roll action, and the

1:56:23.578 --> 1:56:27.458
<v Speaker 2>Warriors kept on pushing them to further and further out,

1:56:27.818 --> 1:56:29.818
<v Speaker 2>and so now all of a sudden, the high pick

1:56:29.858 --> 1:56:31.498
<v Speaker 2>and roll is happening like almost at.

1:56:31.418 --> 1:56:33.458
<v Speaker 4>Half court, right, but you're not able to just pull

1:56:33.538 --> 1:56:33.937
<v Speaker 4>up the three.

1:56:34.058 --> 1:56:36.578
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I thought that was a big reason why.

1:56:36.818 --> 1:56:39.538
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we'll get to Takeda here in a second,

1:56:39.618 --> 1:56:43.298
<v Speaker 2>but the big reason why they're saying the Celtics were

1:56:43.298 --> 1:56:46.218
<v Speaker 2>really successful with the high pick and roll is that

1:56:46.338 --> 1:56:49.818
<v Speaker 2>they they had that ability to get to the nail

1:56:50.098 --> 1:56:52.018
<v Speaker 2>right right at the free throw line. And when you

1:56:52.058 --> 1:56:53.897
<v Speaker 2>get to the nail, and then you would always have

1:56:53.937 --> 1:56:55.778
<v Speaker 2>a guy in the dunker spot, right, and it just

1:56:55.897 --> 1:56:58.138
<v Speaker 2>kind of opens up almost like in football, where you

1:56:58.258 --> 1:57:00.458
<v Speaker 2>have like levels to the offense where you have like

1:57:00.538 --> 1:57:02.658
<v Speaker 2>the three point shooter, you have the guy at the

1:57:02.738 --> 1:57:04.498
<v Speaker 2>nail at the free throw line, and then you have

1:57:04.578 --> 1:57:06.698
<v Speaker 2>the guy in the dunker spot right by the basket.

1:57:07.018 --> 1:57:09.258
<v Speaker 2>And when the Warriors were pushing them out, like how

1:57:09.298 --> 1:57:12.018
<v Speaker 2>many times I felt like Jason Tatum high pick and

1:57:12.138 --> 1:57:16.217
<v Speaker 2>roll is getting the ball at like almost on the logo,

1:57:16.498 --> 1:57:18.498
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, this doesn't know good like you

1:57:18.538 --> 1:57:21.538
<v Speaker 2>can't shoot from out here. So yeah, I saw a

1:57:21.578 --> 1:57:23.978
<v Speaker 2>little bit of that with the Warriors defense.

1:57:23.618 --> 1:57:25.698
<v Speaker 4>And now you look for and look, it'll change when

1:57:25.858 --> 1:57:27.698
<v Speaker 4>when Brad they were able to play that way because

1:57:27.818 --> 1:57:30.057
<v Speaker 4>Brown and more importantly Porzingis weren't in their play. Yeah,

1:57:30.458 --> 1:57:32.937
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a blueprint game maybe for the Celtics,

1:57:32.978 --> 1:57:35.498
<v Speaker 4>showing a way to play them and we'll see, Like

1:57:35.578 --> 1:57:39.418
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised, it's I know if the Nets Friday,

1:57:39.458 --> 1:57:41.937
<v Speaker 4>their next big game is they have the Hawks for

1:57:42.058 --> 1:57:44.858
<v Speaker 4>the NBA Cup, I think one Monday or Tuesday.

1:57:44.897 --> 1:57:46.298
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like the NBA Cup? Is that a

1:57:46.338 --> 1:57:46.778
<v Speaker 2>bad take?

1:57:46.858 --> 1:57:47.458
<v Speaker 4>I hate that?

1:57:47.538 --> 1:57:47.858
<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish they didn't nonsense with the floors.

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<v Speaker 2>The floors non like I remember last year when they

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<v Speaker 2>had to score a certain amount of points to make

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<v Speaker 2>the knock around. I was into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Look it's fun, it makes it early it Now I

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<v Speaker 4>worry they're going to expand it like every good thing,

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<v Speaker 4>like don't take it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Far, but give your quick anyway, because.

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<v Speaker 4>They well it's I wouldn't be surprised they start seeing

1:58:07.978 --> 1:58:09.818
<v Speaker 4>that defense from they have like the Hawks, they have

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<v Speaker 4>the Calves coming up. He's a good player. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>good player. You know how how I've long been annoyed

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't seem to value height or size or

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<v Speaker 4>ability at the rim. They played basketball and they don't

1:58:22.897 --> 1:58:24.738
<v Speaker 4>like tall guys. It's true, but like you have a

1:58:24.858 --> 1:58:28.418
<v Speaker 4>seven footer can't shoot a lick, but he can. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a factor at the rim on both ends of the floor.

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<v Speaker 4>Not saying that has to be your superstar. He's not

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<v Speaker 4>prime shack. They shouldn't treat him like it. But he

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<v Speaker 4>can give you a good ten to twelve minutes a night.

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<v Speaker 4>And when he comes in the game, the energy changes

1:58:39.698 --> 1:58:42.218
<v Speaker 4>every time. When they put him in late in the third,

1:58:42.298 --> 1:58:44.578
<v Speaker 4>early in the fourth quarter and he blocks a shot

1:58:44.738 --> 1:58:46.057
<v Speaker 4>or he puts down to the you know, a big

1:58:46.098 --> 1:58:48.818
<v Speaker 4>alley oop or something, and like for these teams that

1:58:48.937 --> 1:58:51.218
<v Speaker 4>are going to defend the Celtics and take away the three,

1:58:52.378 --> 1:58:54.097
<v Speaker 4>they kind of have to change it up a little

1:58:54.098 --> 1:58:56.017
<v Speaker 4>bit when he's on the floor. So I don't think

1:58:56.018 --> 1:58:59.578
<v Speaker 4>he's Robert Williams. Robert Williams was another level of explosive.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my comparison. He Robert willis a Rober Williams

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<v Speaker 4>also six nine.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's like, at worst right now, the way he's

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<v Speaker 2>playing right now, he's like discount Robert Williams. Right, he

1:59:09.658 --> 1:59:10.337
<v Speaker 2>so Robert.

1:59:10.098 --> 1:59:12.418
<v Speaker 4>Williams remember had that little bit of a jumper. He

1:59:12.538 --> 1:59:14.738
<v Speaker 4>could also run up and down the floor. Kita is

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<v Speaker 4>not as big of a part of the fast break. Yeah,

1:59:17.298 --> 1:59:21.818
<v Speaker 4>and Rob Rob right, but like again, I think just

1:59:21.897 --> 1:59:25.178
<v Speaker 4>giving you I'm trying to I'm blanking on the name.

1:59:25.178 --> 1:59:26.458
<v Speaker 4>Who's the guy that had a couple of years ago

1:59:26.498 --> 1:59:28.738
<v Speaker 4>they got at the trade deadline and he was just like, no,

1:59:28.937 --> 1:59:32.258
<v Speaker 4>they didn't. He played in Toronto for a long time. Toronto.

1:59:32.538 --> 1:59:34.658
<v Speaker 2>No, uh are you thinking of Capella?

1:59:34.818 --> 1:59:34.858
<v Speaker 3>No?

1:59:34.978 --> 1:59:36.618
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, it was that's who I think

1:59:36.658 --> 1:59:39.017
<v Speaker 2>of when Seuta he's bigger.

1:59:39.778 --> 1:59:41.338
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't like a great player, but.

1:59:42.018 --> 1:59:44.698
<v Speaker 2>He's an energy big you know that's what that's Okada

1:59:44.897 --> 1:59:45.618
<v Speaker 2>is and uh.

1:59:45.778 --> 1:59:48.578
<v Speaker 4>Amir Johnson Oh yeah yeah. So it's were like he

1:59:48.618 --> 1:59:50.578
<v Speaker 4>didn't play a lot, but they put him here Johnson

1:59:50.618 --> 1:59:52.258
<v Speaker 4>in the game with all these shooters around him, and

1:59:52.258 --> 1:59:54.858
<v Speaker 4>he was just like, all right, you can't totally crash

1:59:54.978 --> 1:59:56.858
<v Speaker 4>the three point line. Yeah, because we have this guy

1:59:56.858 --> 1:59:58.897
<v Speaker 4>and he'd give him, he'd give him ever play. He

1:59:59.018 --> 1:59:59.818
<v Speaker 4>was also six or nine.

1:59:59.818 --> 2:00:03.818
<v Speaker 2>But I like Kida perfect uh rim running five like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just exactly what they need for their type

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<v Speaker 2>of offense, and they're gonna be spaced in five out

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff. So now you have

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that can you know, be there at the

2:00:13.538 --> 2:00:16.338
<v Speaker 2>rim with offensive rebound, dunk on dudes, all that kind

2:00:16.378 --> 2:00:18.897
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. I really like his game and I like

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<v Speaker 2>how his game fits with them, And I also think

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you look at the East and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at some of the teams they might need to

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<v Speaker 2>go through, like imagine in a series against Joel Embiid

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<v Speaker 2>in the sixers, and yeah, he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the butt to joelan and be because.

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<v Speaker 4>Of how energetic he assuming place. You got another one

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<v Speaker 4>like Jared Allen good.

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<v Speaker 2>Play, yeah, yeah, just you know, painting the butt guy

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, Joelan b doesn't want to run around

2:00:41.578 --> 2:00:43.178
<v Speaker 2>with a guy like that, Like he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hustle on the boards with a guy like that. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>that That's what That's what Keida brings to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do like him.

2:00:49.937 --> 2:00:52.017
<v Speaker 4>He tailed Celtics talk going to catch twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go and see that some people definitely shut

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<v Speaker 2>us off. That's okay. We were two hours into the

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<v Speaker 2>show anyways, and we had uh, We're about to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>it up really quickly to end this Boston Sports minute.

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<v Speaker 2>You have thirty seconds on the Red Sox offseason where

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<v Speaker 2>they are apparently suitors for Juan Soto, which none of

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<v Speaker 2>us believe.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about once I've seen today. Like Taoscar Hernandez,

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<v Speaker 4>Garrett Crochet would be good additions, would be Righty's please?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>He sound so much like White Sox. We're not on Soo,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna go for uh, Tioscar Hernandez.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, they're never gonna get soda. If they added like

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<v Speaker 4>Hernandez and Crochet and another right handed bat and the bullpen,

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<v Speaker 4>like those four collectively would be more than Soto to me,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they need multiples like the Patriots. Right Soto is

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<v Speaker 4>you add the quarterback and that's gonna make a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the end of the day, there's eight other

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<v Speaker 4>guys in the lineup and they just don't have the

2:01:44.778 --> 2:01:47.818
<v Speaker 4>pieces right now. I'd rather see them take a wider approach,

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<v Speaker 4>but get some legitimate like n He's not Soto, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's a legitimate middle of the order. Bat. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Crochet is a legitimate top end of the rotation. Guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll believe when I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So tonight Bruins Tonight, see if they rebound from

2:02:02.258 --> 2:02:05.378
<v Speaker 2>getting blown out again by the Toronto Mapleus the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>So in my house, the Bruins are a big topic

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<v Speaker 2>of stress right now, and they'll is our household. So

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully they turn it around. And tonight I'll probably watch

2:02:15.858 --> 2:02:19.257
<v Speaker 2>that Bruins game, maybe watch a little bit of Baltimore Cincinnata.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be a fun game, and I might crack

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<v Speaker 2>open a little bud Light. And it's easy to drink,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to enjoy. It's bud Light, the official beer

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<v Speaker 2>sponsor of the New England Patriots. Thanks for let it

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<v Speaker 2>sticking around and letting us do a throwback Boston Sports

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<v Speaker 2>minute from the Cleanest Days. People remember that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good time. You still do it right.

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<v Speaker 4>Occasionally we have that's usually an off season thing. We

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<v Speaker 4>don't do it with thunder.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, We'll be back next week the Los Angeles Ramps,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm really looking for to effort in person and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, waving high to a tight pants guy can't wait,

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<v Speaker 2>but until then, signing off for Algus Bart, I'm eving Blazaar.

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