WEBVTT - What Upsets The Upset King Buster Douglas? 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.559 From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:19.000 podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:29.480 Papas and Olivia Arland Decker. Welcome to Unleashed from bet MGM, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.479 the King of Sports Books and Janice. What a weekend 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.200 for New York sports. The Giants and Jets both one 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.199 and overtime and avoid going oh and four. It's the 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.080 first time both teams have won on the same day 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.760 in nearly two years. That is absolutely wild and then 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.680 the Yankees one on a walk off single to clinch 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.440 a wild card spot. So your honest did you forget 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.200 how to celebrate properly? Because I can teach you, as 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.080 a packer and Chiefs fan what it's like to just 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:04.560 win and celebrate. Right. It's been a long time, even 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.479 with the Yankees, it's been a long time. So let's 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:12.440 go Yankees, and yes, congratulations to the Giants and Jets. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.440 What a weekend from New York. We needed it. Yeah, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.800 I think you did. I think you personally needed it. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.959 But it's such a great time of the year in 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.280 sports where we kind of get this buffet of options, right. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.480 The NFL and college football are in full swing. NBA 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.080 and NHL seasons begins soon. That's just a few weeks away, 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.760 and we've got a huge heavyweight boxing match this weekend, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.680 Fury of the Wilder Saturday Night in Vegas. I'll be there. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.360 I'll be ringside with our bed MGM family. I can't 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.640 wait to attend my first fight, and maybe more importantly, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.880 I'm really excited to scan the crowd for big celebs. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.440 Who do you think I'm gonna see? Oh? Man, everybody 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.240 could be there. Who knows? It's it's a I mean, 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.160 this is this is the thing about boxing that really 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.160 annoys me. I mean, we've been waiting for this fight 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.360 for so long. We've been we always wait for fight, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.160 So I mean it could be every celebrity from Los 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.960 Angeles flies in. Yeah, they got nothing to do, Hollywood 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.040 shut down. There was just a big strike, so who 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.639 knows they could all be there. Might have been seen 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.520 Jack Paul. You know what? That does nothing for me? 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.440 Like to me, he could walk in a room and 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.280 I'd barely recognize him. I'm serious. Yeah, I hear you. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.160 I know I'm the minority there, but I'm talking more 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.600 like what real housewives are going to be there. I'm kidding. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.960 I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Okay, we have the perfect guest 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.760 to help us preview this fight. He's credited with pulling 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.160 off what maybe the greatest upset in sports history. One 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.640 of the men who once held the belt, former undisputed 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.519 heavyweight champ Buster Douglas, joins the show. I can't wait 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.079 to pick his brain and of course have some fun 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.000 with them now. Honest, I wasn't born in when he 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.200 upset Mike Tyson. Do you remember where you were when 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.400 this happened. Yeah, I was full adult when this happened. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.000 That's the age difference between me and you. Like, I 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.959 was in uh, what was it, eighth grade or ninth grade? 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.760 I remember it was. Yeah, I remember where I was 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.800 for the O J trial. I remember where I was 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.280 for this. This was That's how big this moment was. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.960 Mike Tyson was absolutely indestructible at that point. Nobody and 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.880 their mother gave Buster Douglas a chance to win, and 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.679 when he when he won, like, it was one of 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.480 those things where everyone was calling everyone. There was no 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.119 internet then, believe it. I'm from a time before the Internet, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.880 and so the news didn't spread as quick and you 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.320 had to find out from a friend. And plus it 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.560 was in Tokyo, so it wasn't televised, you couldn't watch it, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.520 and so it kind of trickled out slowly and everyone 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.960 was in shock. Everyone just kind of walked outside and 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.640 looked around, like does anything make sense? Everyone just locked 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.120 out their door and looked around and waited to tell 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:47.680 their neighbor the news, Like what did you have to 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.760 wait for the nightly news that night to find out? Yeah? Yeah, 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.480 that was back when local news was big. Trucky Scarborough 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.400 was the biggest star in New York City. Okay, you 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.240 know I have so many more questions to a sky 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.440 about the late eighties and early nineties. We'll get to 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.720 that later. Plus, at the end of the show, we're 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.800 going to cut right to the chase and give you 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.080 great betting insight for this weekend Slate with Peter Andrew 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.160 from bet MGM. And you know we're gonna reveal who 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.400 lost our punishment picks and who has to read the 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.279 outro written for them by the winner. I've lost the 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.680 last three, honest, I'm eager for a little redemption because 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.960 I think my mother will ground me if I read 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.320 your crass language on air one more time and my 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.400 mom would say crass. Let me tell you right now, Olivia, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.719 this is just a fluke. Don't get used to it, Okay, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.320 looking forward to it. You know, one person who didn't 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.160 win this week was our bad Beat of the Week. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.599 It's our man, Aaron Bailey, Bad Beat all the Week. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.960 He got eight of nine in a one game parlay 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.000 Bangles and Jags Thursday Night Football. The one that he 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.200 didn't get was Jamaar Chase to score any time, which 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.480 seemed like a good bet. Chase got two touchdowns the 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.640 week before or it is obviously a favorite of Joe Burrows. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.880 They went from LSU too since you together, so tough 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.799 luck my man Aaron getting eight of your nine. That sucks. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.480 That's so close, but you actually did win here because 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.600 listen to this. He only bet ten bucks on this 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.520 whole part way and bet MGM is going to give 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.720 him a hundred for submitting is bad beat. So look, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.279 as long as Twitter doesn't go down, make sure you 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.400 submit your bad beat of the week to at bet 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.120 MGM and you two can win one dollars at bet 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.800 MGM will announce it on the show. Not a bad 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.640 pay day from my man Aaron, not at all, not 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.560 at all. Congrats Aaron. I like it. You know now 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.760 it's our favorite segment of the show. Janice, I love 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.960 this part. It's time for us to go off on 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.640 one topic we feel passionately about this week. Be honest, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:52.080 let's unleash. It's time. Okay, I want to go first 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.960 this week. I mentioned earlier, things are really shaping up 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.640 in college football and we're going into week six in 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.760 a twelve game season, which is crazy. So I know 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.839 you follow the NFL a little bit closer than college football, 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.560 and that's very East Coast of you, honest, So let 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.400 me fill you in my alma mater. The University of 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.080 Georgia looks like the best team in the country and 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.520 they're still number two in the national rankings behind Alabama, 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.599 which is infuriating. So let me spell this out why 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.240 this is so crazy. They're five and o, which other 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.159 teams in the country are too. But Georgia has two 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.560 top five wins, and you know, in college football it's 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.440 all about how you win because there's a committee who 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.719 seeds everyone for the playoff, and it really is kind 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.600 of opinion based. They'll have numbers back up their opinion. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.400 But you've got to win big. You got to run 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.520 up the score, right even when you don't have to, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.440 because you have to have these statement wins. Well, they 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.279 opened the season against number three Clemson, Clemson who everyone 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.040 touts every preseason. They held them to just a field goal. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.600 And then last weekend they had ESPN game Day their 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.440 home game, a lot of pomp and circumstance, and they 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.359 shut out number eight Arkansas, who everyone was saying, is 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.320 this blossoming giant in the SEC? Arkansas was kind of 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.360 becoming the sweetheart of the SEC. Well, Georgia one thirty 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:17.120 seven to zero without their starting quarterback. Honest, look at this. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:21.400 Alabama has faced zero top ten teams. The best they 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.320 got was Miami week one in Florida, who went on 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.520 to lose to Kentucky this weekend. They've also allowed two 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.560 touchdowns from both Mercer Do you even know where Mercer is? Jannice? No? 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.400 I know Ron Merson the basketball player, and that's about it, Okay, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:39.320 Mercers in Atlanta in Southern miss Currently, they have no 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.520 top ten teams on their remaining schedule, so that means 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.680 unless one of their future opponents really shoots up there, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.520 they're not going to beat a top ten team all 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.000 season and you just watch. They're still going to be 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.760 number one the a people week after week while Georgia 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.560 is putting together this monster resume with stiffer competition. I mean, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.400 do you get it? How fresh reading that is? It 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.080 does sound frustrating to me, and so does this college 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.920 football system. It's stupid, you know, it is kind of stupid. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.440 That's why they're going to expand the playoff and there's 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.240 gonna be a lot of change to college football. We 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.160 have touched on it in this show. And I know 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.560 you into American University. I'm pretty sure they don't even 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.800 have a football team. So are you ready to become 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.720 an honorary Georgia Bulldogs fan for the rest of the season. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.040 I am, and I have to correct you. It's the 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.120 American University, like it, it's the Ohio State. Yeah, we 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.680 don't have a football team. It was a small school 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.959 of five thousand. So I am a free agent and 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.560 you know I am now a Georgia Bulldog and I 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:42.319 am also a Toronto Raptor. Yes, well, we need national 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.199 advocates because everyone is blinded by the hound's tooth of Alabama. Okay, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.480 honest I feel better now it's your turn. Yeah, and 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.640 you're justified, Olivia. You know that that's this is one 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.240 time again where heart and head they aligned. So I'm 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.240 with you girl, I'm with you girl. Let's go Georgia. Yeah, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.160 all right out. Time to talk about something that nobody 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.760 has talked about. It's on nobody's mind. Urban Meyer, my 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.800 man who I would love to grab a beer with. Butter, 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.960 I'd love to meet you down in Jacksonville and hit 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.440 a bar and get some lap dances together. Give the 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.600 guy a break, man. I mean, we live in such 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:25.320 an era of snitches. I mean, he's Urban Meyer. He's 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.440 been a cocky asshole his whole life. This is not shocking. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.679 He went out and he unwinded a little bit. Maybe 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.600 that's when he gets his best thinking done when he 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.320 goes to his restaurant. He eats a nice fat steak 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.480 and he gets a lap dance from a twenty five 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.240 year old. Big deal. It's got nothing to do with 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.959 their football, even though they are alling four. If they 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.640 were four and oh right, he I think he would 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.360 still get in trouble for this. That's why I don't 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.760 like this. This is just gossipy news. He's a football coach. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.839 He's not a politician, he's not a religious leader. Leave 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.040 him alone, and can people please stop filming everything. Let 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.559 the guy get a lap dance, big deal. It's between 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.959 him and his wife and that's it. I mean, think 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.920 about it. JFK used to have hooker pool parties at 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.840 the White House. Okay, that's a known fact. But he 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.600 also saved the world from a nuclear war by having 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.360 back channel negotiations with CRUs Jeff with the Cuban missile crisis. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.400 So you know, if JFK was around now, he would 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.839 have got canceled and maybe the world would be blown up. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.360 I mean, just leave it alone. I mean, Martin Luther 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.200 King used to cheat on his wife too, but he 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.080 was the greatest civil rights leader this country has ever known. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.320 So this is canceled culture. To me, this is irrelevant. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.240 It's got nothing to do with football. You know, he's 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.320 got a rookie quarterback they're rowing for. He will figure 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.079 it out. He will turn it around in his second 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.520 year or third year. If he's not fired for this. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.880 I don't know what's going on, but this is what 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:57.480 you call bullshit. Yeah, I think the young woman at 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:04.440 the bar was just giving him some unnecessary roughness. Yeah, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.400 you know, or maybe listen, maybe she is a football 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.960 savant like you, and she was giving him a few 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.480 tips and the bars very loud. You know how bars 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.079 can be right, So maybe they just had to get 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.200 very close so he could hear her. I bet that 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:18.920 was it, you know what, You're right, And I think 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.600 she had like a Hitten playbook or something in the 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.280 back pocket of her jeans. Maybe that was it might 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.680 have been. No, look, this is this is my take 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.440 on this. I don't feel like we should politicize or 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:36.640 glamorize athletes or coaches and make them this moral compass. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.600 I've thought that for a long time, Like whatever the 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.440 hot topic of the day. I don't feel like we 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.120 need to demand athletes and coaches regardless. If they are 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.319 role models, if kids wear their jerseys, that's great. They 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.600 are entertainers. We pay money to watch them entertained. They 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.600 don't need to be our moral compass. If you want 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.280 a moral compass, read philosophy, go to church. Don't look 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.760 at urban Meyer for it's right and what's wrong. I 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.920 just I don't think that his marriage is any of 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.680 our business. And I cannot believe reporters at an actual 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.839 press conference asked if he apologized to his family. That 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.200 has nothing to do with football, that has nothing to 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.760 do with us. We don't know their marriage. Plenty of 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.080 people have different types of marriages, and his wife has 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.520 been liking tweets that have been having fun with this 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.400 whole thing. So I I have a hard time believing 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.040 that the family is very distraught over him kind of 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.960 canoe to ling with a young woman at a bar. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.440 Another thing, these camera phones everywhere. You know he's not 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.559 doing things that other people are not. Again, doesn't make 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.360 it right or wrong, but I think in general, if 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.800 he's being reprimanded at all, it's kind of like, dude, 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.800 be smarter, don't be in public. There are tons of people. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.640 He was taking post pictures with people, so I think 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.240 that's interesting. One thing that does look bad from a 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.400 team perspective is he didn't fly home with the team. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.520 That happens a lot, you know in sports if you 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.640 do have a bye week and off week and people 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.240 end up going to do so with their family or whatever. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.720 But not a good look that. Then he stayed in Columbus. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.280 He stayed in Ohio and did that. But I have 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.760 a friend on the team. I texted him, what's the vibe. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.400 They don't care, They're fine this. You better believe his 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:18.000 players are not upset at his moral judgment over this. Yeah, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.160 I mean it's it's really like people gotta stop film, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.360 you know. It's it's it's unfortunate because in comedy, you know, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.640 Dave Chappelle takes everyone's cell phone before he does any show, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.680 and it's like, people just stop recording and live your life. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.800 I mean, like, you know, stop making movies out of everything. 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.040 Can you imagine if Lawrence Taylor like had to deal 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.199 with people having cameras while he was you know, drinking 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.760 in between games and and you know, occasionally smoking a 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.360 little crack rock. Big deal. You know, he still did 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.520 his job on the football field and is the best 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.800 defensive player of all time. We got to stop this 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.880 puritanical purge and left football players be football players. It's 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.120 a stressful job, Jesus. That all being said, if it 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.360 was my husband or my dad, I'd belivid. So again, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.920 this isn't my take on how we behaved. He behaved poorly, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.640 and it's embarrassing and it's a bad look. That being said, 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.800 I don't think that's the media's business. I don't think 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.679 that's anything to do with football the way he's coaching 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.160 or his team. And he has a really spotty track 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.000 record as is, so this is not the first blooper 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.360 in his reel. Let's just say, yeah, well listen, Kevin Harland, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.920 let's get a beer together. Man. Were at least we're 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.920 in the same age bracket, so I'll make sure there's 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.960 no cell phones. Yeah, you're gonna be bored to death 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.440 if you go get a beer with my dad. It's 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.400 not gonna be like going to get a beer Urban Meyer. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.920 Let me tell you something. He's my favorite announcer, and 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.200 I've said that many times, and I mean it. It 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.360 would not be boring. I would love to pick his 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.480 brain about sports yea, and also about his daughter. How 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.440 did she become so talented and great? Oh see, now 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:46.920 you're the second up to me because you know you 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.760 lost punishment picks and you know I'm right in your 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.440 outro and you want me to be kind. But let's 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.520 move on and get to this weekend's fight, and let's 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.160 bring in someone who knows what they're talking about. A 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:07.840 former heavyweight champ Buster Douglas has come up now, let's 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.720 bringing our guest. He's a former heavyweight champion of the 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.520 world and pulled off one of the greatest upsets of 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.440 all time when he knocked out and undefeated Mike Tyson 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:21.560 in James Buster Douglas is here. Buster thinks, so much 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:26.080 for joining the show. How are you a good time? 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.960 Good good? You know, I want to just take you 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.280 back to that moment. I know you've been asked every 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.360 question under the sun about that fight, but it was 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.880 your second shot at the title, the second chance. First 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.560 time was against Tony Tucker, and you were actually given 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.280 more of a chance in that fight, not so much 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.480 the second time around against Tyson. Do you think that 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.800 helped you? We look at that chip on the shoulder 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.400 a lot in sports. Did that help? I think the 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.840 motivation was definitely there because you said I had a 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:00.400 little better appreciate you for it at to have him 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.760 on the first title shot, and I was really excited 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.760 about it and more determined than ever to succeed Buster. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.200 I was, you know that was I mean, that fight 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.960 shocked the world. I remember I got a call. I 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.160 remember where I was for that. I remember where I 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.840 was for the O J Verke I mean that was 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.640 big news when I was in high school. You were 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.560 you were on a six fight wind streak, though, I 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.360 mean you were looking the best you ever looked. Everyone 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.000 and the media was talking about how this was gonna 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:36.600 be just another tune up fight for Tyson. But do 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.000 you think Tyson knew that he had his handsful? Considering 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.760 how good you look preceding that fight, I mean you 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.960 were looking good six in a row. Yeah. I was 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.400 really worked hard and uh prepare you know, put my 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.440 all effort into it, and uh it was really excited 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.680 about being an opportunity to fight for the title again. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.720 I was more determined than ever and I felt very 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.800 confident going into the fight. Did you talk any ship 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.480 to him in the ring? No, No, you just went 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.440 to work. I was always telling not to run off. Yeah, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.040 I just went to where let my hands go, Let 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.320 my hands do the talking. I like that. So much 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.640 has been written about that fight. What's something that fans 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.320 or media may be surprised to know about that night 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.760 in Tokyo. Well, it was the fight was actually at noon, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:34.120 you know, at twelve o'clock noon Tokyo time, and uh, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.920 we were paying and training around that time and in 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.720 the ring and noon. We were trained the noon. Every 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.639 day I got up and round in the morning, Hey, breakfast, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.320 and went back to take a little nap and then 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.719 went back to the gym. So at twelve o'clock I 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:54.040 was preparing for the fight every day. When you were 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.359 out there in Japan, I mean you're training, You're burning 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.680 a lot of calories. You gotta eat. Uh get sushi? 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:05.000 You're a fan of sushi? Was the food weird? Not 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:15.680 at all? No, I mean uh American food and saying yeah, 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.280 basically saying died I was on when I was in 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.399 the United States. Have you ever tried sushi though? No, 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:27.720 not at all. Yeah, no, I feel you no my 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:34.720 cup of tea, I like like like flames and I 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:40.080 hear you buster. How much did your life change after 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.920 that fight? I mean all of a sudden, you're a 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.040 household name from boxing fans and beyond. I'm sure you 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.040 just went on a total circus of a media tour 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.120 and met all these people. What was the biggest change, Well, 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.840 just like you said, it was just a media circus 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.320 and I wasn't hired demand where everybody wanted to talk 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.639 to me, and no who I was, where I came from. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:07.359 It was like I was alien from another planet. But 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.400 you know what's interesting about that fight, not only did 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.879 you beat Tyson, but you really set the blueprint for 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.400 how to beat him afterwards by keeping him at bay 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.880 with the jab, keeping him away jab jab jab jab 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.240 jab jab jab. Did you know that that was gonna 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.920 be the key to fight them and to beat them 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.080 or did that just was was that something that came 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.040 to you while you were in the ring. No, this 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.480 is something my father and I discussed. He was telling me, 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.240 always telling me to be first, don't sit dren be looking, 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:40.000 let your hands go and and go from there. Yeah, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.359 because that jab really kept him away. Yeah, because you 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.640 see Lennox Lewis beat him that way, even if Vanderer 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.800 beat him that way, and that was the way just 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.240 like if anyone wanted to beat Tyson after that, you 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.160 really just kept him away, kept him from getting inside 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.560 with that job. So that was that's very interesting that 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.679 you kind of you beat Tyson, but then also people 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:06.280 copied you afterwards to beat them with the style. Correct. Yeah, Buster, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.000 Where do you think the sport of boxing has grown 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.160 since you've hung it up? And where do you think 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.560 it's going I think it's grown quite a bit, and uh, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.040 I think it says it still has a bright future, 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:23.639 you know, being a great sport that it is, you know, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.920 one on one individuals in the battle, battle lane it out. 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.960 I think it has It's gonna be around for a 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.800 long time to come, that's for sure. What do you 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.879 think about all the antics outside of the ring? That 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.040 has grown a great deal? Uh, you know, entering the ring, 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:46.639 it's very theatrical, you know, but you know, it doesn't 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.399 matter how you enter the ring is what you do 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.600 once you get inside there. That that has never changed. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.400 If the theatrics leading up to it has gotten pretty exciting. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.040 But so I want to ask you in that fight, 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.399 you actually got knocked out. So he felt Tyson's power 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.159 with that, with his famous uppercut that he puts so 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.840 many heads to sleep, which stretched so many people out 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:13.200 with What does Mike Tyson's power feel like? Well, it's 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.080 it's a force, you know, he has a lot of 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.919 force behind it as well the impact, you know, and 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.359 it really it doesn't feel like, you know, you've really 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:26.560 been hit. That's why it's so sweet and so sneaky. 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.159 It's not like you get crushed with it. It's a 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.879 it's a sneaky type of feeling, you know, it's a 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.800 delayed reaction. You know, it's kind of weird to describe it. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.840 But did he hit the hardest of anyone? No, not 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.520 at all. I've been here a lot harder. You know 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.639 before Wow, who hit harder than him had a small 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.199 partner to get hit pretty good. You know. He was 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:52.360