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Speaker 1: do they do that pregame? Do they do half?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, we'll have that.
Speaker 1: Wow, we might actually talk a little basketball during a
Speaker 1: happy hour. You never know. Crazy things happened.
Speaker 5: They actually haven't announced the All Star Game and what's happening,
Speaker 5: but they're gonna announce the starter so I guess.
Speaker 1: So yeah, crazy crazy times. Okay, So yeah, that's all
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Speaker 1: answering your questions task it it.
Speaker 5: Started here we go. You guys are great sending in
Speaker 5: the emails. First one, Hey, sports fans, animal lovers, and
Speaker 5: compost enthusiasts. Yeah, that's right. With the high level that
Speaker 5: Lebron continues to play at and the inevitable arrival of
Speaker 5: Bronni James into the NBA, what would you prefer Lebron
Speaker 5: and his son being teammates or Lebron and Bronny playing
Speaker 5: against each other? Two to four times over the course
Speaker 5: of a season. Keep on trucking. That's from Nathan and Sunbury, Australia.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: Do you know him?
Speaker 4: I do know. We used to play cricket together and
Speaker 4: we battled on the basketball court a few times nights.
Speaker 1: A pretty good player play nice, nice. Nice.
Speaker 5: I definitely thought that was a setup for a joke.
Speaker 5: I didn't think that you knew Nathan. Nathan and Sunbury
Speaker 5: Yeah pretty.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, nice big Nathan's not Nathy.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, I'll answer this first because I had actually
Speaker 1: never thought about this. We have talked numerous times about
Speaker 1: Ronnie James is coming in the NBA and he is
Speaker 1: going to play on the same team as lebron James,
Speaker 1: Like we've we locked that in like two or three
Speaker 1: years ago, I think here on the show. So I'm
Speaker 1: still on board with that, But I actually hadn't taken
Speaker 1: a step back and went, hmm, would it be more
Speaker 1: enjoyable to see them go head to head? You know,
Speaker 1: get a couple of moments there where they are out
Speaker 1: on the perimeter and they're sizing each other up, or
Speaker 1: maybe Bronnie dunks on them or something like that, which
Speaker 1: is really exciting too. So I'm sort of torn. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to answer this. I think them being
Speaker 1: on the same team is inevitable. I think it truly
Speaker 1: does happen. But I'm not against this idea tray of
Speaker 1: them going one on one. Maybe we just get both.
Speaker 1: I don't know which order you'd prefer it, but nice,
Speaker 1: nice thinking here, Big Nathy in Sunbury. I like this.
Speaker 1: I'm not against seeing them matchup against each other, who
Speaker 1: can get the best of each other. Despite Lebron obviously
Speaker 1: being a little older, much older, twenty years plus than
Speaker 1: his son, what do you think.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him both as well, but we
Speaker 3: gotta see him on the same team. Everybody remembers Ken
Speaker 3: Griffy Junior and Ken Griffy Senior playing together on the
Speaker 3: Marinders iconic pictures. Did they face each other otherwise? I
Speaker 3: don't know. I can't track it down. It seems that
Speaker 3: interleague play wasn't a thing yet, so the Reds and
Speaker 3: the Mariners never squared off. They didn't make it to
Speaker 3: the World Series together, But that would be awesome to
Speaker 3: see too, because remember we watched Dwayne Wade and his
Speaker 3: son playing one on one this year and Dwaynel was
Speaker 3: just talking shit to Zaire telling him you're too small.
Speaker 3: How great would that be to see on an NBA
Speaker 3: basketball court Lebron just belittling his little son. That would
Speaker 3: be great. But uh, as long as they are on
Speaker 3: the same court, it's gonna be awesome to see happen,
Speaker 3: whether it be against each other, whether it be on
Speaker 3: the same team. But I imagine it will be on
Speaker 3: the same team.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Lee, Yeah, well, I was fortunate
Speaker 4: to play with my dad in the same team and
Speaker 4: try he did as well. I played with my two
Speaker 4: brothers as well. It is so much fun playing with
Speaker 4: like your parents or your brothers just in a game.
Speaker 4: So I want to see them together because also as well,
Speaker 4: I would like to see someone, you know, like a
Speaker 4: veteran guy, maybe post up Bronnie Junior and take him
Speaker 4: inside and score it, and then just watch the revenge
Speaker 4: from Dad coming out, you know, dunking on him or
Speaker 4: blucking him or doing something, because I think that's what
Speaker 4: you would see, you know, I think people would be
Speaker 4: like this and Lebron he was too good for us.
Speaker 4: But we're going to take it out a little bit
Speaker 4: on Bronnie Junior while we can. But then the big
Speaker 4: Lion comes back and he gets them back, so it.
Speaker 1: Would be good.
Speaker 4: But having said that as well, I mean, wouldn't it
Speaker 4: be awesome to see just Bronnie Junior with the game
Speaker 4: on the line. Dad comes out to pick him up
Speaker 4: one on one and Bronnie Junior breaks his ankle or
Speaker 4: something like that, you know, knocks one down and talks
Speaker 4: a little trash to his pops some on, Pops, You're done,
Speaker 4: your time's up. This is my game now, this is
Speaker 4: my league.
Speaker 5: You know, Bryan is probably collecting those top shot moments
Speaker 5: right now too. You guys got to get on the
Speaker 5: Bronni James top shot, his first one, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even exist yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, who knows.
Speaker 5: Maybe they're going to do high school moments soon.
Speaker 1: Geez, I hope.
Speaker 5: Sierra or Sierra High School whatever whatever this high school
Speaker 5: is called there in California.
Speaker 1: Get on it, guys, get on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with Lee on the ladder part there. I
Speaker 5: went back and forth on this one, Yeah, thinking, yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe want some griffy moments. Yeah, they played in the
Speaker 5: same outfield together.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that fun?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't really that fun.
Speaker 5: That's why it was so much fun.
Speaker 3: They both caught fly balls.
Speaker 5: Maybe I know I'm being sorry, that's I'm being sarcastic.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that fun, that's the whole thing. Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think they hit back to back Jack did. Yeah, see,
Speaker 5: it's pretty cool. That is cool. Listen, it's cool. Uh yeah,
Speaker 5: a man who's forty plus playing in MLB baseball, I
Speaker 5: mean that's it happens a heck of a lot more
Speaker 5: than a man who's forty plus happened playing in the NBA.
Speaker 5: So this is this is amazing that Lebron James is
Speaker 5: going to be able to do it. There's just no
Speaker 5: doubt that he will be able to do it. But yeah,
Speaker 5: the moments, the singular moments, if there's going to be
Speaker 5: a top shot moment, it's going to happen when those
Speaker 5: two are playing against each other, Like those are the
Speaker 5: more exciting moments. But you know, I went back and forth,
Speaker 5: like maybe Lebron is sitting that one time that they
Speaker 5: play each other, Like they don't play each other that
Speaker 5: many times if they're in opposing conferences, especially, so i'd
Speaker 5: rather that though, I think you'd get you know, just
Speaker 5: just maybe a more special moment if they're playing oppose
Speaker 5: each other, but you know, an alley oop from each other,
Speaker 5: I would be pretty friggin cool too. But yeah, one
Speaker 5: time head to head, I'd rather see that than eighty
Speaker 5: two games with each other. But it's fricking nuts that
Speaker 5: we're talking about man playing with his son. It's just foker.
Speaker 1: It's just I want to go back to the Ellis Klan.
Speaker 1: Did you all have Did you ever have all four
Speaker 1: of you out there on the court at the same time,
Speaker 1: with you and your two brothers and Dickie running the point.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if we had all fours. We definitely
Speaker 4: had the all three combinations at once, but I don't
Speaker 4: think we had all four of us one time. But
Speaker 4: really I don't think so we're all coaches Dad, Dad, Well,
Speaker 4: just because of the ages, Like by the time I
Speaker 4: started playing, you know, men's league, I was like thirteen,
Speaker 4: I guess, and my older brother was like seventeen, so
Speaker 4: he'd sort of moved on from the because it was
Speaker 4: a lower level men's league too. It was older men.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like like a sort of you know, the
Speaker 4: top grade level. It was like a C grade level,
Speaker 4: so he kind of moved on. My older brother so
Speaker 4: I don't think he ever played. He started out at
Speaker 4: one time. My dad took a charge on this guy, legit, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and the guy didn't like it and he and he
Speaker 4: threw a punch and connected. And my middle brother he
Speaker 4: jumped in and started throwing punches at the other guy.
Speaker 1: A weird basketball version of the Hanson Brothers. No, but
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, she took my corner man. Well,
Speaker 1: this guy, he he threw the punch of my dad
Speaker 1: like he was in the wrong because it was like
Speaker 1: he just got upset because he was was given an
Speaker 1: offensive foul and so he threw a punch with Dad
Speaker 1: wasn't looking connected. And then my other brother jumped in
Speaker 1: and he ended up getting suspended.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow, So yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Can't believe we never had all four of you out
Speaker 1: there at the same time though. That's that's almost disappointing.
Speaker 4: So maybe, but I doubt it. I doubt it just
Speaker 4: because of the ages we move.
Speaker 5: Maybe we can ask Nathan, he probably does.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was the big needsy in the post.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We won the championship a couple of times. Oh, on
Speaker 4: Dad's steam. So that was great.
Speaker 3: Sure, bro, what's Dickie's game? Like I hear you're talking
Speaker 3: about him taking charges. You're obviously a sharp shooter. Surely
Speaker 3: he passed the jeans down much like Dell did to
Speaker 3: staff and seth.
Speaker 4: Yeah dad can shoot, Yeah, Dad can shoot. He spread
Speaker 4: the floor a little bit. Uh, pretty sure. I've never
Speaker 4: seen him miss a free throw, to be honest with it.
Speaker 4: But he's got he's got he's got a unique style.
Speaker 4: He's almost got the power gasol style at the free
Speaker 4: throw line. You know, you sort of he just gets
Speaker 4: that one hand and just pushes through, knocks him in.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he'd be he'd be well into the range
Speaker 4: of his free throws. Mate, for sure. Yeahow so?
Speaker 1: And like was he was? He more of a shooter
Speaker 1: or a playmaker. If you had to pay.
Speaker 4: A shooter, I'd say.
Speaker 1: All the elis brother, that's why you couldn't play all
Speaker 1: for around.
Speaker 4: My middle brother wasn't really a great shooter, to be honest.
Speaker 5: He was more.
Speaker 4: He was more the footballer, the AUSSI rules football who
Speaker 4: was playing basketball.
Speaker 1: So it was a bit rough. And there's no footage.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have video or photos. I should say,
Speaker 1: every moment you've ever had in your life, tell me
Speaker 1: there's video footage of you like and your brother is
Speaker 1: playing with Dicky.
Speaker 4: There's no video footage in the late eighties early nineties,
Speaker 4: we didn't have the camp quarters up at the game
Speaker 4: like recording we should have. Would have been great to
Speaker 4: watch back now, but so good. There's probably a photo
Speaker 4: there somewhere. I'll see if I can dig one out.
Speaker 1: All right, great, Yeah he's retired though, from the game, right, Dicky.
Speaker 4: He retired, Yes, I think he retired at fifty. But yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot of championships up in the in the Yellstown geez.
Speaker 3: And he waited until his youngest was old enough to
Speaker 3: play with him in the league. You gotta love it or.
Speaker 4: It was so much fun, so much fun. But try you,
Speaker 4: I mean you and not Stavie. You played together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like your dad is good, but my
Speaker 3: dad could beat your dad.
Speaker 1: Sorry versus Dickie. Oh yeah, okay, good Bundy to watch that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah.
Speaker 3: So old guys flopping the entire time. That's one of
Speaker 3: the main things my dad taught me was how to
Speaker 3: take a charge. Every dad passes it down. I don't
Speaker 3: know why.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Let us start here to the beach step in
Speaker 1: the podcast. Okay, next one. We know Lee loves a
Speaker 1: beautiful shooter of the basketball see Klay Thompson or Dicky Ellis.
Speaker 1: I added that, and an incredible passer of the basketball
Speaker 1: see Draymond Green. But who's a wonderful rebounder of the basketball?
Speaker 1: Turn down? Love your thighs? Oh yeah, that's from Rob
Speaker 1: so Trey. Wow, you answer this one because you're the
Speaker 1: big beef man. You've been watching a million rebound highlight.
Speaker 1: Who's a beautiful rebounder, a wonderful rebounder.
Speaker 3: A wonderful rebounder. Well, let me take you to the
Speaker 3: meat market, skeets, it's time for a beef watch. He
Speaker 3: got eleven big beefs so far this season, three for
Speaker 3: Andre Drummond, two now for Ennis Cancer, and one each
Speaker 3: for Steven Adams, Clint Cappella, Rudy Gobert, Nicola Jokic, Demonta Sebonis,
Speaker 3: and Yonas Valanciunas. Shout out to the international beatmen. Those
Speaker 3: guys are eating beef. Personal favorites for me, Rudy Gobert
Speaker 3: a very stylish rebounder. He's got a lot of the
Speaker 3: Rodman to him, like grabbing the ball from away far,
Speaker 3: snapping it to his hands. He does a fancy pass
Speaker 3: once he gets it done. Also, really like Steven Adams
Speaker 3: is beef. He's got a scrappy, scrappy beef. He had
Speaker 3: his twenty rebounds, He's diving on the floor for every
Speaker 3: single one. He's just smashing his body into people. I
Speaker 3: think he had four points of that game, but had
Speaker 3: a huge impact on actually winning because he was all
Speaker 3: over the place on the glass. But once you're watching
Speaker 3: these rebound highlights, you do see that everybody's kind of
Speaker 3: got their own style to it. You know, I've end
Speaker 3: up watching twenty rebounds probably four times through just separating
Speaker 3: out figuring out which ones are the good ones. Blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. You notice the differences. But there is a
Speaker 3: simple qualification. To be a true wonder of rebounding. You
Speaker 3: need to lead the league in rebounding more than twice.
Speaker 3: More than two times. It's happened seven total times. You
Speaker 3: know that there are seven guys who have done it,
Speaker 3: and they're all legendary players, especially rebounders. Wilt Chamberlain, he
Speaker 3: did it eleven times. The best rebounder in basketball history,
Speaker 3: the fifty five rebound game. That's a record. That's a
Speaker 3: vintage Beef candidate. There's an iconic picture of him rebounding
Speaker 3: with like the ball sort of at his waist and
Speaker 3: his legs are sticking out completely sideways. Awesome. Dennis Rodman
Speaker 3: is the next name on the list. He led the
Speaker 3: league in rebounding seven times. He is the NBA rebounder
Speaker 3: because that's what he did. He made rebounding cool, snapping
Speaker 3: the board's legs sticking out. He had a seven crown
Speaker 3: on his shoe because he led it seven times in
Speaker 3: a row. Dennis rebound, Dennis rebound might as well just
Speaker 3: call him that love Yeah. Up next on our list
Speaker 3: Moses Malone. He led the league in rebounding six times.
Speaker 3: If you're playing pick up basketball, you missed two layups,
Speaker 3: like Lee Ellis, don't call me Dicky Ellis, but you
Speaker 3: put it back in. People are yelling, Moses Malone. That's
Speaker 3: what people know. If people know you as an incredible
Speaker 3: offensive rebounder, you're a legend, a wonderful rebounder of the game.
Speaker 3: Dwight Howard led the league in rebounding five times. I
Speaker 3: think that kind of goes unnoticed because we just assume
Speaker 3: he was, you know, maybe the best center of his
Speaker 3: generation at the time, certainly the best defensive center. But
Speaker 3: that gets lost because you kind of forget that rebounding
Speaker 3: is a huge part of defense. The possession doesn't end
Speaker 3: until you grab that board up next. Kevin Durant. Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 3: sorry of the Timberwolves. Back in the day, he led
Speaker 3: four times. You don't think of Kevin Garnett now as
Speaker 3: a great rebounder, but he led four times. I think
Speaker 3: it was four years in a row. And I love
Speaker 3: his rebounding highlights. If you just said to me, if
Speaker 3: you're just striking up a casual conversation with me about rebounding,
Speaker 3: he said, a all time, who's your favorite rebound highlights?
Speaker 3: And I said, you know Dennis Robbin number one, number
Speaker 3: two kg, because he would have some that it's like
Speaker 3: a tip dunk and he brings the ball back down
Speaker 3: to his waist and dunks it incredible. But his less
Speaker 3: notable rebound highlights. It looks to me like he's reaching
Speaker 3: in the backseat to grab something in the car, but
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to turn around, but somehow snaps the
Speaker 3: ball back. He's got so many of these. I remember
Speaker 3: he was even having them with the nets and that
Speaker 3: was like end of the year, end.
Speaker 1: Of his career.
Speaker 3: Kevin Gartnet, Bill Russell, another vintage Beef candidate, led the
Speaker 3: league in rebounding four times. Forty rebounds in a Game
Speaker 3: seven of the finals. That's a championship beef. Another vintage
Speaker 3: Beef candidate. Goodness, forty boards. Give me basketball back in
Speaker 3: my day, it was so cool about the rebound highlights
Speaker 3: we could have add back then. No, I am not
Speaker 3: looking forward, honestly to watching sixty year old rebound new
Speaker 3: highlights where there's one tall guy, literally, one guy who
Speaker 3: can jump, very funny, but our final wondrous rebounder Andre Drummond.
Speaker 3: He's led the league in rebounding four times. He's the
Speaker 3: reigning Beef king. But what Capella Am I getting this?
Speaker 3: I think Capella is actually leading the league in rebounding
Speaker 3: right now. And it's basically because if you remember when
Speaker 3: we had his we had his beef not too long ago.
Speaker 3: I said, this was a sloppy beef. This guy just
Speaker 3: keeps tapping the ball at the rim, he keeps missing
Speaker 3: his own offensive footbacks, and he is ahead of Andre
Speaker 3: Drummond on offensive rebounding percentage. And that is really the
Speaker 3: difference between these two. Capella is slapping the ball off
Speaker 3: the glass to himself. He might break the streak for
Speaker 3: Andre Drummond, but he's gonna have to do it another
Speaker 3: three times if he wants to be a wondrous rebounder
Speaker 3: of the basketball.
Speaker 1: Now, are you gonna count or bestow the rebound king,
Speaker 1: the big beef King on the guy with the most
Speaker 1: total rebounds in the season or rebounds per game because
Speaker 1: drummondsn't been in trouble right now if he's sitting.
Speaker 3: All this gamble total rebounds hmm, I mean for me,
Speaker 3: rebounds per game man role player game. Okay, sounds good
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: That's tough.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. Plus I also kind of want
Speaker 3: the beef King to be whoever has the most twenty
Speaker 3: rebound game.
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: True on games. But I'm deep in the rebounds now.
Speaker 3: I can't stop. I can't stop caring about rebounds.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean, you just want a good,
Speaker 1: really solid five minutes just talking straight rebound. I have
Speaker 1: nothing to add. I mean, you're the you're the expert.
Speaker 5: Lee.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you would throw in the mix
Speaker 1: as a wonderful rebounder? That Traye didn't mention this well.
Speaker 4: A fun rebounder to watch his Carlos Boozer when he
Speaker 4: would out rebound nobody and he'd grab that ball as
Speaker 4: if he was out mustling four other guys, he'd kick
Speaker 4: his leg out.
Speaker 1: I got that, Joe, You know, I guess Mellow is
Speaker 1: doing his thing too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, actually speaking of no I know it
Speaker 4: was a pretty aggressive rebound and he used to go
Speaker 4: and get the ball and hold onto it pretty tightly.
Speaker 4: But H haven't got that.
Speaker 3: Was his favorite player. Mmm.
Speaker 5: I like guys.
Speaker 3: The one guy I did not like to cut off
Speaker 3: from the list because of my qualifications. You got to
Speaker 3: lead the league more than twice, Ben Wallace, Oh, he
Speaker 3: only led the league in rebounding two times. Seems like
Speaker 3: one of an all time great rebounders to me, and
Speaker 3: he was, But he would playing at the same time
Speaker 3: as Kevin Garnett, White Howard, guys who are also wonderful
Speaker 3: rebounders of the basketball.
Speaker 1: There you go. So Shock never led the league in rebounding?
Speaker 5: Did he?
Speaker 1: Did he do it once? Maybe?
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But not more obvious?
Speaker 4: What about Elton brand He was a pretty good rebound too.
Speaker 4: For sort of what about this guy, Hey, what about
Speaker 4: this guy?
Speaker 1: Let's play that?
Speaker 5: Sure, I have the next evolution of this is guys
Speaker 5: who just box out and don't get the rebound, the
Speaker 5: sacrifice themselves for somebody else. So that's that's the ultimate rebounder.
Speaker 5: A guy who who actually I guess it's a rebound
Speaker 5: if it'll hit the floor and go to them, but
Speaker 5: they don't have to even move. They just box that
Speaker 5: guy out so hard that no one could get to
Speaker 5: it other than them. That's that's a rebound. That's a
Speaker 5: real rebound.
Speaker 1: That's a real man's rebounds, a real man's beef. I
Speaker 1: keep thinking of Josh Hart nearly fall, nearly tasting that
Speaker 1: beef this year with the what was it seventeen? I
Speaker 1: think he got to.
Speaker 4: Don't chitch got one in the bubble, didn't he? I
Speaker 4: think he had like a forty twenty ten games.
Speaker 1: That does sound right? Yeah, I mean yeah, daun chicch
Speaker 1: is like it's just like more like more likely. I mean,
Speaker 1: just the numbers the guy puts up Josh Hart g
Speaker 1: twenty rebounds in a game, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Or early?
Speaker 4: Well, let's play that game. Then, then like the young
Speaker 4: unlikely go to score fifties and most unlikely to grab
Speaker 4: twenty rebounds.
Speaker 1: Camaso, Yeah, he's scrappy. You can maybe do it all right,
Speaker 1: And you want to add to that incredible list there
Speaker 1: tasks that you would that you love to watch rebound
Speaker 1: Robin Lopez.
Speaker 5: I mean there was there's some good ones here in
Speaker 5: the chat. Actually, sept B writes, Steven Adams was the
Speaker 5: guy who literally boxed out every single possession while Russell
Speaker 5: Westbrook went and grabbed those rebounds his MVP year, that
Speaker 5: triple double. It's a very good point. King of the
Speaker 5: box at mister Steven Adams, and I was the king
Speaker 5: of the rebounds, So good for him. All right, let's
Speaker 5: move on. Hey, there, fellas. I was thinking of getting
Speaker 5: a car Heart NBA hat, but I just don't feel
Speaker 5: right wearing car heart merch when I am far from
Speaker 5: being a blue collar worker. Car Heart just feels like
Speaker 5: the type of thing you have to earn, not buy.
Speaker 5: I'm with you, what's something you want to buy but
Speaker 5: feel like you haven't earned. For me, it's giveaway items
Speaker 5: at sporting events. Sure I could buy it online, but
Speaker 5: there's something specially about showing up to a game three
Speaker 5: hours early. To get that cheaply made jersey or hat.
Speaker 5: Keep up the classics. That's from thanks for the email.
Speaker 3: Ben.
Speaker 5: Good call Carhart is something you earn.
Speaker 1: You got to earn that Cary put some time in
Speaker 1: at the factory, I get one of those. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: I do agree with that too. For me, with this question,
Speaker 1: what's something you want to buy but you feel like
Speaker 1: you haven't earned. I always want to buy, like new
Speaker 1: running gear. It's fun to buy obviously, just new gear
Speaker 1: or like the like clothes like shorts or shirts or whatever, hats,
Speaker 1: even shoes of course, like new running shoes. But my
Speaker 1: running game has fallen off a cliff as of late,
Speaker 1: so I I refuse to do it. I haven't earned it.
Speaker 1: I gotta get back out there start putting the miles again. Uh.
Speaker 1: And until I do that, you know, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to buy any new cool slick Tracksmith stuff or some
Speaker 1: new Nikes or whatever. So That's where I'm at with this.
Speaker 1: You gotta put some miles in out there to uh,
Speaker 1: to reward myself. Otherwise I'm just rolling with this old
Speaker 1: crap I got. But yeah, I mean kinds just U.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what my excuse is. I think
Speaker 1: I'm working too much at the factory. If I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: I got to check out every once in a while.
Speaker 1: You gotta stop working overtime, get out on the on
Speaker 1: the roads. But I don't know you guys have an answer, Tray.
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds like for you, you got to
Speaker 3: forget tracksmith and get on your car hearts rights working
Speaker 3: in the factory. What's more blue collar than making a podcast?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: That's right? Really really don't do anything with your hands.
Speaker 6: With it pretty much everything every single occupation out there
Speaker 6: think so I just I just broke it now on
Speaker 6: my microphone.
Speaker 3: If you tap too hard, it could be pretty dangerous
Speaker 3: here as the factory. It's one of the biggest workmen's
Speaker 3: comp hazards that we've got around here. I've got something
Speaker 3: similar to Ben. I don't think that I'm a leather
Speaker 3: jacket guy. I'd always kind of wanted to wear a
Speaker 3: leather jacket. But similar to how Ben is saying that
Speaker 3: he doesn't think he can pull off Carhart, it's a
Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy. If you don't think you can pull
Speaker 3: something off, you're not going to be able to pull
Speaker 3: it off. You need to wear the clothes. Don't let
Speaker 3: the clothes wear you. And for me, leather jackets very cool,
Speaker 3: incredibly cool. Lots of cool guys have worn them, but
Speaker 3: they're all like slick cool guys, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like the fawns. Yeah, cooler than the Leellis once said.
Speaker 3: Toless guys Leeellis has ever mentioned on the show are
Speaker 3: the Fonds and Styles Stilenski and if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: Styles also wore a leather jacket. I think I think
Speaker 3: that it's it's a tough thing to pull off. But
Speaker 3: leathers man like, if I had a if I had
Speaker 3: a motorcycle, surely I would have some leathers. But I
Speaker 3: think you got to get the motorcycle first.
Speaker 5: Yep, I got a nice leather and I just can't
Speaker 5: put it on. It was bought for me. I think
Speaker 5: my mom bought it for me a long time ago.
Speaker 5: Great gift because you know, a real leather jacket. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's an expensive jacket. It's and I wore it when
Speaker 5: I was young, but I can't put it on again.
Speaker 5: But I can't throw it out either. It's just too nice.
Speaker 5: Other jackets are real nice. But one day, one day,
Speaker 5: I'm going to put it on.
Speaker 1: But what's your concern with wearing it?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Like someone's gonna be like, so what you're riding? What's
Speaker 1: your hog? And you be like, I don't know, you're
Speaker 1: talking about my hog?
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's just not wearing a leather jacket. It's
Speaker 5: just it's like you, just like Trey was saying, it's
Speaker 5: I let it wear me. I guess it's kind of
Speaker 5: tough to pull off. But then you rocket and you
Speaker 5: feel obviously, you feel freaking cool. You feel like I
Speaker 5: feel like Fonds, I FEELIX styles. I think Lee likes
Speaker 5: David Beckham. I mean David Beckham could easily leather jacket. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I can wear anything.
Speaker 4: David Beckham could wear a tea towel and he'd look
Speaker 4: asome there. I mean, that's just the way he is.
Speaker 4: He's just got that style.
Speaker 5: And we wear a tetel on his hug.
Speaker 4: I mean, it wouldn't matter which teetwel he wore or
Speaker 4: where he wore it, just like, yeah, that's cool, that's fine.
Speaker 1: What about you, what's your answer for?
Speaker 4: Well, actually sort of similar to you there, because I
Speaker 4: saw Dee Brown is releasing the Omni Lights again. The
Speaker 4: pumps that he won the Slam Dunk Contest with. And
Speaker 4: I've got far too many basketball shoes in my house.
Speaker 4: But you know, under normal circumstances, you can say, well,
Speaker 4: I can justify it because I need these shoes for
Speaker 4: something or that, you know, But now there's no real
Speaker 4: reason why I need a new pair of the brown
Speaker 4: basketball Omni pumps. You have a pair of yeah, I do,
Speaker 4: I do, but they're not the exact ones that he
Speaker 4: re releasing, So I'm kind of like, I just kind
Speaker 4: of want them. You know, I had a pair when
Speaker 4: I was a kid, and now that he's re releasing them,
Speaker 4: they'll probably be you know, one hundred and eighty bucks
Speaker 4: or something that money that I don't need to spend
Speaker 4: on shoes that i'll barely wear. But if I see them,
Speaker 4: if it just comes across my timeline and they're like
Speaker 4: they're to say, grab a pair, I'm like, yeah, cl
Speaker 4: cl click boom done, I'll do it.
Speaker 5: But the pumps are called THEO they're called the omnies.
Speaker 4: Is that what they're called omni lights? I believe they
Speaker 4: were called yeah, the O g ones.
Speaker 5: What's funny is that I also I'm reluctant to pull
Speaker 5: the trigger on some omnies, the New Balance omnies, these
Speaker 5: these yes that colors that are awesome. I do the
Speaker 5: spurs are wearing. But I'm the same. I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: not out there on the court. I'm not punching the
Speaker 5: clock like I'm one of Jim Boylan's boys. So it's
Speaker 5: hard to pull the trigger on these things.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just like, I don't need it when
Speaker 1: you're not playing even basketball once a week or once
Speaker 1: every two weeks. Yeah, it's like, why do I need
Speaker 1: new shoes? You don't fashion? Now, you don't for the fashion.
Speaker 1: Where the hell are you going to show them off?
Speaker 1: I can't even see.
Speaker 5: You're falling out the trash, you know.
Speaker 3: Take a look at the Look at this guy. What's up, neighbor?
Speaker 1: Like my fiesta?
Speaker 6: Are you big?
Speaker 3: Sean Elliott? Guy? Look at these thrawing your leather jacket? Man?
Speaker 1: The man?
Speaker 4: So the boss says they got to pick up a
Speaker 4: cake of the.
Speaker 1: Okay, our next question, Hey guys. A few years ago,
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell and Ben Simmons had a bit of a beef.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we have talked sobou beef and hogs
Speaker 1: and everything in this one. So they had a little
Speaker 1: bit of a beef over who was Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: and at the time it seemed unanimous that if you
Speaker 1: were to start a franchise with one of those guys,
Speaker 1: it would be Ben Simmons. I think that's probably fair
Speaker 1: to say. At the time. At the time of this
Speaker 1: the Rookie of the Year beef, we had a bunch
Speaker 1: of who are the T shirt? Was it Donovan Mitchell?
Speaker 4: Mitchell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right, the T shirt?
Speaker 1: Yes, fast forward. The email continues fast forward to today,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that would be the case. So
Speaker 1: the question is who would you pick to start your
Speaker 1: franchise with now, Ben Simmons or Donovan Mitchell the show.
Speaker 1: This is from Kevin in Mississauga. Task do you know Kevin?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we go way back. Yeah, we played basketball together
Speaker 5: with our two dads and our six brothers, Big Kevy,
Speaker 5: Big Kevy Kevy, the post Rocket Kevvy. He was wearing
Speaker 5: the Omni Lights. No, this is a tough question, Kevin.
Speaker 5: It has become a very difficult question. I agree. Years
Speaker 5: ago Ben Simmons landslide, but Donovan Mitchell has expanded his
Speaker 5: game he's become incredible, but you're left in out in
Speaker 5: the question who would you pick to start your franchise with.
Speaker 5: I would pick Ben Simmons because it's difficult to build
Speaker 5: around Ben Simmons. But if you can pick him first,
Speaker 5: you can make a team around Ben Simmons. Well, donn
Speaker 5: of Mitchell. You can just add him to any team
Speaker 5: and it'll work. Ben Simmons, you need a special team
Speaker 5: around him. And I think Ben Simmons he still hasn't
Speaker 5: reached his ceiling. We saw him the other night, forty
Speaker 5: two point game where he was dominating against the Jazz
Speaker 5: on the inside, and he says he's been working on
Speaker 5: the mental part of his game. Is that's that's where
Speaker 5: he's growing. So I don't think we've seen that the
Speaker 5: best of Ben Simmons quite yet. And he's so special
Speaker 5: on the other end of the floor. I think you
Speaker 5: need a certain type of team around Ben Simmons. But
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that ceiling. I mean, now we
Speaker 5: know that he's a power forward essentially, or a point forward,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call. He's not a point guard
Speaker 5: in the traditional sense. I mean, positions are stupid, but
Speaker 5: he doesn't hit. He doesn't hit threes. He is now
Speaker 5: being a screener and a roller and he's an incredible defender.
Speaker 5: And you can't go wrong with either of these guys.
Speaker 5: Because Dono Mitchell you could easily build a team around too.
Speaker 5: But Ben Simmons, I think we're still waiting for the
Speaker 5: best Ben Simmons. Plus he's such a great defender. Man,
Speaker 5: this is this is wow.
Speaker 1: You're sort of still ultimately sticking with Ben Simmons.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just a believer, Like right today, if I
Speaker 5: want to win a game, probably like a series.
Speaker 3: Probably Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 5: But you know, both sides of the ball do count
Speaker 5: a little bit sometimes if you're trying to win a
Speaker 5: game and you're trying to win a series. And again,
Speaker 5: if we saw it without Joel un beating the lineup
Speaker 5: the other day against the Jazz, Ben Simmons was godlike
Speaker 5: and he had the lane to penetrate and see if
Speaker 5: if I know my team, I'm not putting in a
Speaker 5: jewel and bead type with Ben Simmons, even though Darren
Speaker 5: Moore has done a good job putting shooters around him.
Speaker 5: I know what I'm building, No one I'm building keV.
Speaker 5: You know I'm not going to build that team that
Speaker 5: we used to play on me you or Bros. Or
Speaker 5: dad's I mean that wasn't working. You know, if I knew,
Speaker 5: if I knew your dad was going to be on
Speaker 5: the team, I build a different team, keV, Kev's dad
Speaker 5: for Mississieta. We used to play at Square one. Yeah,
Speaker 5: oh of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: We'd go to earls after the game talk about our
Speaker 5: hogs and leather jackets. I'm kidding.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Kevin.
Speaker 5: And this is just a tough, tough one where you
Speaker 5: guys go, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this question to me, it's like almost the equivalent.
Speaker 1: It says something about you how you answer this tray.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, what do you prefer? Pepsi or coke?
Speaker 1: And like your answer tells me all I need to
Speaker 1: know about you when you tell me whatever. It is
Speaker 1: so like same thing with this in a weird way, Simmons, like,
Speaker 1: are you going with what Tasa is saying? You still
Speaker 1: see obviously the potential to him to bring it on
Speaker 1: both ends and go next level? Or Mitchell who's become
Speaker 1: better and better and better and this still probably hasn't
Speaker 1: hit his ceiling yet. Where are you going Trey Well.
Speaker 3: I prefer Coke skeats me. I hate you know, description wise,
Speaker 3: I think Tasks one hundred percent nailed it, but I
Speaker 3: almost come down on the other side of it, just
Speaker 3: because Donovan Mitchell, Ben Simmons impact wise, upside wise, I
Speaker 3: think they're both very similar to the same level right now,
Speaker 3: right like I mean, you're you're seeing Donovan Mitchell get
Speaker 3: better every single season. You're seeing Ben Simmons grow into
Speaker 3: becoming a little bit more of a scorer. Recently. We've
Speaker 3: seen in the past when Embiid was out they won
Speaker 3: thirteen games straight at the end of a season. Right Like,
Speaker 3: the shooters and defense around Ben is going to work,
Speaker 3: but we haven't got to see it for an extended season.
Speaker 3: And you just got to really trust yourself. If you're
Speaker 3: a GM, you got to believe you're a true man
Speaker 3: of genius to be able to build a team around
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons, because it's going to be a little bit trickier.
Speaker 3: Whereas Mitchell. There are other Mitchell types around the league,
Speaker 3: whether it be Steph Curry or Trey Young, scoring guards
Speaker 3: who are also solid distributors who you can build your
Speaker 3: offense around. And you know, for me, I do consider
Speaker 3: myself a true man of genius, but I'm also an
Speaker 3: idiot when it comes to basketball. So if you were
Speaker 3: going to tell me, hey, you're a GM, I'm saying,
Speaker 3: give me the guy who looks like all the other
Speaker 3: guys out there right now, give me Donovan Mitchell. He's
Speaker 3: contributing defensively, He's not on Simmons' level as a defender.
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons is a defensive Player of the Year candidate,
Speaker 3: whereas Donovan Mitchell is just a solid defender at this
Speaker 3: part part of a good team defense. Obviously with the Jazz,
Speaker 3: I think it just is a little bit simpler to
Speaker 3: build around Donovan Mitchell, and as a simpleton, I think
Speaker 3: that's where I'm going though, I do think that building
Speaker 3: around Simmons could certainly work. And you know, ask me
Speaker 3: a year ago, I'm taking benbo What do you think, Lely,
Speaker 3: This is a great question.
Speaker 4: It is a great question because Simmons has such a
Speaker 4: weakness in his terms of shooting the ball, which Donovan
Speaker 4: is great. And you know, if the game's on the
Speaker 4: line and one of them's got the ball in the hands,
Speaker 4: it's a tie game. Who would you rather have to
Speaker 4: make the play. I mean, you probably take Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 4: because he can hit that shot and Simmons maybe he can,
Speaker 4: maybe he can't. He's just not as confident like that.
Speaker 4: But Simmons defensively, his height, is athleticism, his speed, all
Speaker 4: those things, I think he has an advantage over Donovan,
Speaker 4: but Donovan can score fifty a little bit easier than
Speaker 4: Ben Mitchell Ben Simmons come together. But if we see
Speaker 4: more of the Ben Simmons we saw the other night
Speaker 4: against Utah, then I think Simmons runs away with it
Speaker 4: here because he's aggressive scoring effect him Again, you don't
Speaker 4: have to have that three pointer. You just have to
Speaker 4: make it so that the defenders can't stop you, and
Speaker 4: they couldn't stop him the other night. But we've seen
Speaker 4: so too many times as well where Ben Simmons will
Speaker 4: just have a three for five game, which is just
Speaker 4: you need more from that from your guy, from your
Speaker 4: franchise guy. So if he can improve that, But then
Speaker 4: again Donovan Mitchell, I mean, if he can improve his
Speaker 4: defense and maybe he just becomes an all round better
Speaker 4: player as well. So it is a great question. They're
Speaker 4: very different, but they're all so very the same and
Speaker 4: how impactful they can be. I probably leaned slightly towards
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons today, but it's very, very close.
Speaker 1: To start the franchise with. Well think I'm gonna split
Speaker 1: this up. I think I leaned towards Mitchell. But you
Speaker 1: guys are making great cases for both of them. Here.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you Jeene Simmons or Joni Mitchell.
Speaker 5: Oh, Geane.
Speaker 4: I saw Gene Simmons at the Canada cent a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago. They put on a show. You want
Speaker 4: to talk about a band?
Speaker 3: There we go, Here we go.
Speaker 4: He was breathing fire on stage there, Geene Simmons. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's what you want from your band. It's a watch Kiss.
Speaker 4: If you get a chance to see Kiss, go and
Speaker 4: see them for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, watch.
Speaker 5: Yes, That's why I always watch those challenge shows, you know,
Speaker 5: the Next Challenge show where guys are like swallowing swords
Speaker 5: and stuff because they're breathing fire. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 5: what you want in the show as you breathe fire.
Speaker 4: For sure. I mean I lost a little bit of
Speaker 4: its edge because a guy came out quickly with a
Speaker 4: rag and sort of put it around the fire like
Speaker 4: that took it at because It's one of those things
Speaker 4: you went, oh, got that and the big the big
Speaker 4: flame came out. But still I'm telling you they put
Speaker 4: on the show.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, let's hear it from you guys in the stream
Speaker 1: team with that one starting a franchise right now, or
Speaker 1: you go in Ben Simmons or Donovan Mitchell. I'm fascinating.
Speaker 1: We got to make that a poll.
Speaker 3: We'll do. It's already out, baby, check our YouTube page.
Speaker 1: Incredible stuff I'm interested to see. I think people would
Speaker 1: lean towards Mitchell if I'm being honest. I think the
Speaker 1: ultimate vote will side with him. But sixty forty, I
Speaker 1: think is where it's going to end. But get your
Speaker 1: votes in.
Speaker 5: Okay, people don't respect defense like they used to. You know,
Speaker 5: I like it Mitchell.
Speaker 1: Well with Mitchell, I mean there are like those variants,
Speaker 1: so the big swings, you can get an eight for
Speaker 1: thirty Mitchell game, right, I mean that happens with those
Speaker 1: type of guards. He just you know, doesn't have the
Speaker 1: three ball fall in that day whatever, the SHOT's not dropping.
Speaker 1: But then you get like those as we saw it
Speaker 1: in the bubble, like you know, hitting twenty out of
Speaker 1: thirty shots and seven of them are threes and he's
Speaker 1: like completely like dominating the game, sort of unlike a
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons has ever showed he can, at least offensively.
Speaker 1: I know he has that impact offensively, but like that,
Speaker 1: it's pretty special and at his age. And again, if
Speaker 1: we've talked about like the guys, it appears to be
Speaker 1: a Jim Ratt and just wants to get better and
Speaker 1: better and better. So that's why I lean towards him.
Speaker 1: But I get it too. I mean, the defense is
Speaker 1: it's important, that's fair.
Speaker 5: I mean Ben also has some single digit scoring games
Speaker 5: and doesn't doesn't really have it, doesn't show up entirely,
Speaker 5: and Mitchell's having far less of those disappearing act type games.
Speaker 5: But they're both getting better here. They're both getting a
Speaker 5: lot better. Kevin from Mississauga, My saga, bro, what a
Speaker 5: question respect respect to the sixth biggest city in Canada.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the seventh. I don't know. Moving on here,
Speaker 5: my now ex girlfriend decided to move a thousand miles
Speaker 5: away to be with her ex husband. What return? A
Speaker 5: few things make me happy these days, as you can imagine,
Speaker 5: but a beach stepping question would do wonders. I wanted
Speaker 5: to I wanted to include this question because I think Sean,
Speaker 5: the emailer here, deserves to have his question read. Felt.
Speaker 5: I felt something when I read this question. So, what's
Speaker 5: something you've lost that you never thought you would be without? Turnips? Turnips?
Speaker 5: We just had a tattoo turnip. Brownie's basket prays thank you.
Speaker 5: That's from Sean, so Lee something you never thought you'd
Speaker 5: be without?
Speaker 4: Well, you guys remember when we were at the NBA
Speaker 4: TV and Dicky sent over all my old posters and
Speaker 4: stuff for the wall and for you know, decorating our set. Well,
Speaker 4: I guess it was four or five years ago. Now,
Speaker 4: I decided I was going to set myself a little
Speaker 4: goal of trying to get every member of the Dream
Speaker 4: Team to sort of sign something of ours and send
Speaker 4: it back to the set. And so I tapped into
Speaker 4: a few of our contacts, one in Chicago and one
Speaker 4: in San Antonio, and I sent them out a poster,
Speaker 4: one of Scotti Pippen and one of David Robinson, a
Speaker 4: Hoop magazine poster that I'd had for thirty years, kept
Speaker 4: in a maculate condition by my dad, hoping how two
Speaker 4: contacts might be able to come through there, and both
Speaker 4: of them were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got ya,
Speaker 4: I got ya. No worries never came through, and I've
Speaker 4: never seen those posters again them. Yeah, I know it
Speaker 4: was tough. Yeah, I mean they might still have them somewhere,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean those those Hoop Magazine posters are
Speaker 4: pretty dear to me when I when I got them back,
Speaker 4: and then I just lost them forever. I mean Dad
Speaker 4: kept them in perfect condition. I have them for five
Speaker 4: minutes and boom they're gone.
Speaker 1: That sucks. I mean, did you end up getting autographs
Speaker 1: from the dream Team.
Speaker 4: One and no and spelled wrong. There's a bit of
Speaker 4: a story to that one too. It was Calm Malone
Speaker 4: of all people. I got in touch with his wife
Speaker 4: and h and so I sent him a Hoop Magazine
Speaker 4: poster and as a thank you, I sent him a
Speaker 4: Starter's T shirt. He signed the Starter's T shirt and
Speaker 4: sent back the poster and the T shirt.
Speaker 1: I do remember, you tell, I mean at least he
Speaker 1: sent it back. I mean, I guess when your nickname
Speaker 1: is the mailman, you do have to deliver it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just like, why would you sign
Speaker 4: the T shirt though not the poster?
Speaker 1: I mean, why would I think, why would you send
Speaker 1: me a T shirt?
Speaker 4: Because I had been communicating with his wife and saying,
Speaker 4: this is a like as a thank you have a
Speaker 4: T shirt, you know, hoping maybe you'd get a photo
Speaker 4: with the poster. Sign it. Anyway, tell me from.
Speaker 1: Your your big plans to get every dreunting number to sign.
Speaker 1: We have a signed starter's T shirt from karlme alone.
Speaker 4: Yeah somewhere. I don't know where that is anymore. I mean,
Speaker 4: I knew, I knew there was a couple that were
Speaker 4: going to be tough, Michael Magic, Larry. You know, we
Speaker 4: work with Charles. I thought that one would be fairly easy,
Speaker 4: to be honest, I didn't really want late. No, I
Speaker 4: was going to go eleven for twelve.
Speaker 1: The one we could have got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably would to come on the show an interviewed.
Speaker 4: Not everything, but anyway, there you go.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I hope somebody else is enjoying those Hoop magazine
Speaker 1: posters that you held on to for so dearly. That sucks.
Speaker 1: I can't believe both of them did make it back
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, Uh.
Speaker 3: Trey answer this one, Lee actually reminded me of something
Speaker 3: from when I was young. Sports Illustrated for kids, would
Speaker 3: always put the address of the team for whichever player
Speaker 3: they were profiling. You know, like I got a Carlos
Speaker 3: Valdorama autograph once upon a time, shout out to Carlos Valderrama.
Speaker 3: I lost that. Unfortunately, we'll never get it back. But
Speaker 3: the one regret I really have from that is that
Speaker 3: Dion Sanders was like one of my favorite guys back
Speaker 3: in the day, one of my favorite athletes I like lee.
Speaker 3: I sent him a bandana to sign and send back.
Speaker 3: Oh never got it back.
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, come on with these guys.
Speaker 3: And look, I never saw him wear it on the field,
Speaker 3: is either? So he wasn't using it. Give me back
Speaker 3: my band dam it was. It was vintage. I would
Speaker 3: love to have it these days.
Speaker 1: Do you think he possibly turned it into Aliela's hanky?
Speaker 3: What a thriller sign of disrespect? Fail him something? He
Speaker 3: turns it into a snot rag not prime time.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if that's disrespectful. I
Speaker 4: think that's like he's always keeping you close by. So
Speaker 4: look at this guy, said a handkerchief as a sign
Speaker 4: of respect. I'm going to use this handkerchief, Okay, change.
Speaker 3: My bid I like to now, I think that Deane
Speaker 3: Sanders has been carrying that in his back pocket for
Speaker 3: twenty five years.
Speaker 4: Santa's played basketball. Did anyone you know was he a
Speaker 4: good pick up player?
Speaker 3: Do we know? I would guess he was one of
Speaker 3: the best pick up players in any game he played.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything if that's the case. But the
Speaker 3: man was a professional athlete in two different sports. I
Speaker 3: imagine he can figure out basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah. People, you've already said you could beat Tiger Woods
Speaker 1: one on one. Do you think you could take on
Speaker 1: too Lely?
Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't seen him play, so you know
Speaker 4: he don't have either.
Speaker 1: I'm going with I'm leaning towards six or one. Did
Speaker 1: they say, what's up?
Speaker 3: Six foot one?
Speaker 1: That was?
Speaker 3: That was Tiger?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 4: Tygert oh Dian are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Well, Dion is almost the same size as Tiger, so
Speaker 3: both of them? All right, here's some things charity basketball game.
Speaker 3: Dion Sanders nineteen ninety one. Dion Sanders almost played in
Speaker 3: the NBA with the Atlanta Hawks. I don't know how
Speaker 3: fact toidle that is, but I mean, the guy was
Speaker 3: a quarterback in high school and he became the greatest
Speaker 3: cornerback in ANYFL history. Seems like he probably has good
Speaker 3: hand eye coordination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think he figured it out.
Speaker 3: He was in Rock and Jock. Gregsonat says that's where
Speaker 3: you show your skills Rock and Jack. If you hit
Speaker 3: a twenty five pointer, you know he's good.
Speaker 4: Terrell Owens, Terrell Owens was a pretty good boss.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: I think I remember seeing him put up some buckets
Speaker 4: in the Celebrity Game.
Speaker 1: He did any dunk?
Speaker 4: I think did he?
Speaker 5: I think so that he played at some point.
Speaker 1: Test Do you have something you've lost that you never saw?
Speaker 5: My answer to this question, no, I think I I
Speaker 5: answered this a few weeks ago with my athleticism. I
Speaker 5: mean it's a very similar question. I think something that
Speaker 5: I didn't have, So maybe I shouldn't have included it.
Speaker 5: But we got a great, great answers from you guys,
Speaker 5: so I'm glad we did. But yeah, it is my athleticism.
Speaker 5: There's no doubt. I mean, did I ever have it?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but yeah, I'll find it again. I
Speaker 5: gotta find it again when I move. I think I
Speaker 5: think I packed it somewhere. I'm moving soon. It's deep
Speaker 5: in a box. Gonna find it, Gonna find ready to.
Speaker 1: Buy yourself a brand new pair of shoes. Do unlock
Speaker 1: that athleticism again?
Speaker 5: That's it? Hey, do you get do you get in
Speaker 5: shape when you buy the gear or do you get
Speaker 5: in shape and then get the gear? That's the question,
Speaker 5: huge conundrum. Listen, when it gets warm again, everybody stay warm.
Speaker 5: That's when that's when my juices get flowing. No, that's
Speaker 5: when I get out there and I feel the tire
Speaker 5: mac underneath my feet get going. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 5: Get out there on Great Iron Battle with Dion Sanders. Okay,
Speaker 5: I don't really.
Speaker 1: Have a good answer for that one. I actually besides
Speaker 1: my innocence, but uh, I don't lose a lot of things,
Speaker 1: like I honest, Like I don't mean a humble brag,
Speaker 1: but I just do not lose things because of my
Speaker 1: you know O C. D. And I know where everything
Speaker 1: is at all times. And but I mean the problem
Speaker 1: with that is if it's not there for like one minute,
Speaker 1: I freak out because I'm like, I left it there?
Speaker 1: Where is it? It's like, okay, relax, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't really think of any I mean, things have been
Speaker 1: stolen from me, but that's not really losing it, is
Speaker 1: I had my watch stolen from the y m c
Speaker 1: A back at Strafford, had my bike stolen. I've told
Speaker 1: that story before. I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 4: In my backyard, you have the start as flag. Still
Speaker 4: you know where that is?
Speaker 1: I think I think it's in JD's house, in a
Speaker 1: box at JD's place. JD, I don't know if you're.
Speaker 6: Still listening, but yeah, it's somewhere.
Speaker 1: That we got to take care of that. We gotta.
Speaker 5: I'll come get that, JD. Yeah, oh yeah, JD. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you don't trust JD to hold on to it.
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't trust JD, but like he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, possibly looking to sell his house box to
Speaker 1: get Left Eye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not? You know all these great otographs pull
Speaker 4: of famous legends.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing. If you come get the flag, you
Speaker 6: have to get all of it, all of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, not that interested in some of those dunk costumes
Speaker 1: that you've got in boxes. I'll take it over the Okay,
Speaker 1: next one here, Good morning, Slash Afternoon. I would first
Speaker 1: like to say I'm a huge fan of the show
Speaker 1: and never miss an episode on Apple Podcasts. I listen
Speaker 1: to you guys every day on my way to school
Speaker 1: or work and any other time I get the chance.
Speaker 1: I'm also a huge Celtics fan and a Beantown girl,
Speaker 1: one might say, so obviously, I'm over the moon about
Speaker 1: the recognition Jalen Brown is finally getting as a star
Speaker 1: and the really strong young core we've established with Brown
Speaker 1: and Tatum. Earlier in the season, it was mentioned that
Speaker 1: Tatum could be a dark horse MVP candidate. I think
Speaker 1: he could easily be an MVP caliber player. But my
Speaker 1: question is, do you guys think that, because Brown is
Speaker 1: now putting up similar numbers to Tatum, that it's going
Speaker 1: to be nearly impossible for like Tatum to get any
Speaker 1: MVP love because of how E spread the offenses between them.
Speaker 1: Much love that's from Grace. She's a Beantown girl from Boston.
Speaker 1: Another great question here. I mean, you know, are silly
Speaker 1: questions we love, but our basketball questions we also enjoy.
Speaker 1: Like that Mitchell Simmons one this one task. Does Grace
Speaker 1: have a point here? Like Brown is playing so well,
Speaker 1: does it like they cancel each other out in some
Speaker 1: way for potential MVP?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. It's a very good question,
Speaker 5: but I think we're sort of caught in the moment here.
Speaker 5: Jaylen Brown's having a great, great season and Jason Tatum
Speaker 5: just hasn't been playing because of COVID protocol, so he
Speaker 5: hasn't been around. But I think it just helps to
Speaker 5: have a guy who's just as good. I think it
Speaker 5: just helps your MVP case because it just propels you
Speaker 5: up in the standings. And that's what it really comes
Speaker 5: down to. Teams have to be really good for a
Speaker 5: guy to win MVP, So if they're up higher in
Speaker 5: the standings, don't you guys just think that Tatum would
Speaker 5: get more recognition. I know, I know it's sort of
Speaker 5: an even balanced right now in this moment, Jalen Brown
Speaker 5: has had just as good a season but better, but
Speaker 5: better than Jason Tatum because he's been playing. But I
Speaker 5: think if you're playing full eighty two games, I think
Speaker 5: Tatum would get the recognition and just get more of
Speaker 5: it because they're good. I think the like, what are
Speaker 5: we looking at here in terms of a historical perspective,
Speaker 5: you know, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant kind of thing,
Speaker 5: like two guys who are really really, really good but
Speaker 5: would take votes away from each other. I think media
Speaker 5: just establishes one guy is a better guy and gives
Speaker 5: it to him, and it would probably be Tatum when
Speaker 5: it comes down to it for me, although you know,
Speaker 5: Brown is obviously absolutely incredible. I think if they're played
Speaker 5: a full season, I think there's no need to worry Grace.
Speaker 5: I think Tatum would get it, And yeah, he would
Speaker 5: be an MVP candidate if he played well. The Celtics
Speaker 5: would have to be better, but yeah, I think they
Speaker 5: would be better.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Trey, Yeah, I think task is
Speaker 3: exactly right. The rising tide lift all boat, as they're
Speaker 3: saying in the stream, team because if your team is good,
Speaker 3: if your team is the best team in the league,
Speaker 3: you can win MVP no matter who is on your team,
Speaker 3: unless you are the Warriors and your Curry and Durant
Speaker 3: and people just don't want to give it to you
Speaker 3: because they think it's too easy. But go back a
Speaker 3: little further. Lebron James won back to back MVPs with
Speaker 3: the heat. He was playing with Dwayne Wade, a Hall
Speaker 3: of famer, a guy who could get his own MVP votes,
Speaker 3: Chris Bosh, another Hall of famer. Keep going back, you
Speaker 3: can see Kobe one one didn't have anybody alongside of them,
Speaker 3: shack one one with Kobe right, like, you can easily
Speaker 3: win an MVP with another All Star Hall of Famer
Speaker 3: alongside you because your team is winning. As long as
Speaker 3: you're still the number one guy, you're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I guess that could be a little bit of a question.
Speaker 3: Will Jalen Brown ever pass Jason Tatum? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's more of a toss up now than
Speaker 3: it has ever been with the way Jalen Brown improves
Speaker 3: every single year. But certainly Tatum seems to be at
Speaker 3: least the one A right now to Brown's one B.
Speaker 3: And as long as he stays as the one A
Speaker 3: and the Celtics are able to get back into the
Speaker 3: championship contending picture MVP case right there.
Speaker 1: Right, can Tatum be the MJ and Brown is obviously
Speaker 1: then the Scottie Pippen Lee? You would think? I mean, also,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, it comes down to, like Tiger, who's
Speaker 1: taking the shot? I mean, more times than not, who
Speaker 1: are you going to be given the ball to? I
Speaker 1: would still think right now, despite how improved he's shown us,
Speaker 1: that it would still go to Tatum over Brown right
Speaker 1: in that instance, I would think, so yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I look at this as Tatum's team in
Speaker 4: that sense, like Tatum is the number one and Brown
Speaker 4: is He's the Pippen on that team. There, and just
Speaker 4: going back through history, teammates who are finished in the
Speaker 4: top five and MVP voting twenty fifteen to sixteen, Westbrook fourth,
Speaker 4: Durant fifth, two thousand and two, two thousand and three,
Speaker 4: Kobe third, Shack fifth, two thousand and one, two thousand
Speaker 4: and two, Sha third, Kobe fifth, and then ninety five
Speaker 4: ninety six, Jordan first, and Pippin fifth, So you know
Speaker 4: you can get there, though it is rare. Other than Jordan,
Speaker 4: I can't see anyone else unless you go back to
Speaker 4: Kareem and Willis Reid and those guys who's actually won
Speaker 4: it and his teammates finished in the top five. But
Speaker 4: the good thing is these guys have got similar games,
Speaker 4: players similar way, but they don't seem to get in
Speaker 4: each other's way, and they certainly don't seem to be
Speaker 4: in a little bit of a tug of war as
Speaker 4: to whose team it is. I think they get along
Speaker 4: really well. I think they've got great chemistry, and I
Speaker 4: think that's the thing for the Celtics. I don't think
Speaker 4: there's any like in a sort of fight there to
Speaker 4: see who really is the number one guy there, and
Speaker 4: they work well, so bright future with those two there,
Speaker 4: everyone else should put around them, I think is going
Speaker 4: to sort of fall in behind. So Brown has definitely
Speaker 4: improved a lot this season. But Jason Tatum, before he
Speaker 4: did miss time with the coronavirus, I think he was
Speaker 4: in that MVP conversation and he said just the other day,
Speaker 4: maybe before last night's game, he said he's started he's
Speaker 4: still feeling some of the effects of that. He gets
Speaker 4: tired more easily, more fatigued, and that does sort of
Speaker 4: if you look at the way he's played lately, he
Speaker 4: certainly hasn't been at that same level. So maybe he's
Speaker 4: finding his feet a little bit and just getting his
Speaker 4: win back. But yeah, both great players, and I ultimately
Speaker 4: think that if you're winning, they both do get their recognition.
Speaker 1: Okay, great question, Grease, We got one more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dunks. I recently came across an outdoor court near
Speaker 5: me and had such a strong desire to ball. There
Speaker 5: are way too many people there during the day, though,
Speaker 5: so my girlfriend and I decided to hit the court
Speaker 5: at early done. Crazy enough, we got a horse game,
Speaker 5: just like my throat is one second here.
Speaker 1: See this is tough work being a podcaster.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very hard, very hard. Crazy enough, we got a
Speaker 5: horse game in my horse throat is very clear now
Speaker 5: and it felt so good, even crazier. My girlfriend hit
Speaker 5: a legendary horse wedgie. Oh and accomplishment I have only
Speaker 5: dreamed of experiencing over the course of the year of
Speaker 5: no basketball, and you're seeing it now if you're with
Speaker 5: us in the stream team a very very dark wedgie
Speaker 5: because it's at dawn. So thanks for sending this one in.
Speaker 5: When have you felt one up by your significant other
Speaker 5: in something you have more experience in? Sincerely, Amaya and
Speaker 5: Sylvia in Atlanta, Trey. What's your answer for this one?
Speaker 3: Mine's horse related as well. I've never beat Laura and horse.
Speaker 3: We've been together now almost thirteen years. We've played a
Speaker 3: lot of times. She has a hoop outside of her parents' house.
Speaker 3: We always play when we go back, and you know,
Speaker 3: I still play pickup basketball. You know, prior to the pandemic,
Speaker 3: I would play every single week. I would play multiple
Speaker 3: times a week back when we first got together, and
Speaker 3: every time we would go play at her parents' house.
Speaker 3: She would beat me every single time. Every single time.
Speaker 3: It's quite similar to every time we would play horse
Speaker 3: in the cage with Skeets and Lee. I would lose
Speaker 3: every single time. I know what you're thinking, A knockdown
Speaker 3: and shooter like myself should be able to take a
Speaker 3: game off of whether it be Skeets or Lee or Laura.
Speaker 3: But no, because I don't have the focus for a
Speaker 3: whole game of Horse. Maybe pig would be better for me.
Speaker 3: But I'm trying dumb shots. I'm shooting the ball off
Speaker 3: the ground. I'm trying to bank it in off the top.
Speaker 3: We He'll go shoot a free throw, Laura will shoot
Speaker 3: a bank shot. Laura will shoot a seventeen footer and
Speaker 3: call a swish and knock it down. Meanwhile, I'm spending
Speaker 3: every one of my challenge shots trying to bounce it
Speaker 3: in off the glass. It never goes in. So she
Speaker 3: gets a shot, knocks down the seventeenth footer She's been
Speaker 3: shooting for twenty years. I don't practice seventeen footers. I
Speaker 3: play an efficient game, no long TuS, so this is
Speaker 3: completely virgin to me. Taking a seventeen footer it's a brick.
Speaker 3: I'm racking up numbers, racking up letters. Next thing you know,
Speaker 3: I got horse. We play Farmer's Chance. I miss again
Speaker 3: and she gets another. W sucks.
Speaker 4: Wasn't she a beautiful rebound of the ball and her
Speaker 4: die too? She was a beautiful rebounder of the ball. Indeed,
Speaker 4: she led a to school, didn't she? In reband? I
Speaker 4: think you've told me before.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Yes, she's great at boxing out too.
Speaker 1: Lee.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to mention it. She's really the rebound
Speaker 3: lover in this family. She's the one that wears a
Speaker 3: Horse Grant shirt or a Denis Rodman shirt. Around here,
Speaker 3: I'm wearing Michael Jordan. I'm trying to be the star.
Speaker 3: She's doing the dirty work, and that's why she gets
Speaker 3: the winds when we actually go against each other in
Speaker 3: basketball matchups.
Speaker 1: She just plays the fundamental horse game. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why playing Lee's infuriating too. And let's be honest, like
Speaker 1: I like to think, tell me if I'm wrong, trade
Speaker 1: I mix it up right. I know when I got
Speaker 1: to just take a jumper or a free throw to
Speaker 1: maybe get one, get a cheap one, get an easy one,
Speaker 1: But I'm trying those crazy over the backboard shots when
Speaker 1: you're not out there from half court. Lee Ellis is
Speaker 1: just like free throw after free throw after like left
Speaker 1: handed layup. You're like, what do we do with here?
Speaker 1: But it gets you a lot of victories. That just
Speaker 1: slow and steady, boring ass horse game. But I think
Speaker 1: it sounds like, yeah, Laura plays a similar game. Just
Speaker 1: knock down that little jumper and you can rack up
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of letters. Gets it works
Speaker 1: for you, guys.
Speaker 5: What's a farmer's challenge?
Speaker 3: Raight?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For a farmer's chance.
Speaker 3: Farmer's chance on an E. You know, say Laura makes
Speaker 3: the first shot, I miss on my attempt, so I
Speaker 3: get an E, but I get a farmer's chance. I
Speaker 3: get a second chance to make that last one. If
Speaker 3: I make it, I continue on with an S waiting
Speaker 3: for her to give me another E.
Speaker 4: Eventually, Oh okay, there you go. It's like a coach's
Speaker 4: challenge almost.
Speaker 3: It's similar to our coaches challenge. But it's also like
Speaker 3: you can tell I grew up in the Midwest, we
Speaker 3: had something called a farmer's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go next here for this for me with
Speaker 1: Nora a thing where I felt like one upped by
Speaker 1: her in something that I do more, have more experience
Speaker 1: quizzes like pub quizzes. Sure, you guys know, I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a good stretch there where we were going,
Speaker 1: you know, to the bar, like you know, once a week,
Speaker 1: maybe once every two weeks when Maddie always live in here.
Speaker 1: A lot of us would do it, you know, the team,
Speaker 1: the starters team at the time, we would all go
Speaker 1: out and have friends and I went to almost all
Speaker 1: of them. And you know, I'm fine, I'll chip in here.
Speaker 1: You know, we're getting a sports question. I'm pretty good,
Speaker 1: might get a weird video game question. I can help
Speaker 1: out a lot of the time. I'm just like, yep, okay,
Speaker 1: American history, I'm turning towards Trey or you know everybody,
Speaker 1: Jair or something like that. I'm not helping all that much.
Speaker 1: I am not a smart man. But Nora comes in
Speaker 1: every once in a while, like she wouldn't come all
Speaker 1: the time, and like she just knows. She's just one
Speaker 1: of those people that just knows a lot about a
Speaker 1: lot and it's really weird and you're like, how did
Speaker 1: you know that? Like, and especially in the pop culture
Speaker 1: like realm, like, that's her, that's her sweet spot. So
Speaker 1: she would just come in and I'm just like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'll run it up, guys, you know, like that's all
Speaker 1: I'm good for. Like I'll run her answer up to
Speaker 1: the quiz master because I'm not helping at all. I'll
Speaker 1: do the I got great penmanship, guys, you want me
Speaker 1: to write down, I'm pretty good speller. You don't need
Speaker 1: to tell me. Just tell me the answer and I'll
Speaker 1: write it down. So, yeah, Nora's Nora's good. H a
Speaker 1: very good random trivia and we put together a bit
Speaker 1: of a powerhouse team when it would be like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, TK, NORAA would be in the mix. Jared's
Speaker 1: pretty good. J JD. You're actually really solid. You're a
Speaker 1: bit older, so that helps. That's a compliment that's commed
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a bunch of young kids at
Speaker 1: these quizes. They don't know what's going on. In the seventies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm the history guy. Yeah to nineteen seventy to
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty five, I got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh and Mattio with music and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: that's his. So yeah, you guys had an again. I
Speaker 1: was just there for the ride. I was just there
Speaker 1: for the beer, popcorn and running it up to the
Speaker 1: quiz master, getting my steps in.
Speaker 3: Our sheets always looked great, though, Yeah, our sheets.
Speaker 1: Our sheets looked good. Yeah yeah, I mean, I get
Speaker 1: I can help in some categories, but a lot of them,
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm just looking around at everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who sang that song
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine and it went to number one
Speaker 1: and the UK only you know, like Matt can sing
Speaker 1: you the lyrics.
Speaker 4: To that, like get the guitar, you know, sounds like
Speaker 4: it was Keen Wild or someone like that, for sure.
Speaker 5: Sure, So I love to Nora and hers like there's
Speaker 5: like the accordion Grady and grad and Gardian eyes the
Speaker 5: accordion Great and Gordian open him up and you see
Speaker 5: what's inside of that accordion. There's a vast knowledge of
Speaker 5: a lot of topics.
Speaker 1: It is good to have on a team too, for sure,
Speaker 1: especially uh he knows his history. Yeah, you need you
Speaker 1: need your your your experts in all those o' feel
Speaker 1: like Trey and science and stuff like that is good man.
Speaker 1: You just get you just like that's the way to
Speaker 1: do it. It's it's a lot of fun. Man. I
Speaker 1: miss going out, miss seeing you guys in one of
Speaker 1: these days.
Speaker 3: Didn't we win the last trivia before Matt moved.
Speaker 1: To Damn right? Yeah? Because we were always the bridesmaid.
Speaker 1: We were coming second. Like I felt like every time
Speaker 1: we went out we could never win, win, but we
Speaker 1: did before Matt left. I think Matt says he still
Speaker 1: has that gift certificate. He was very proud that maybe
Speaker 1: I have. Maybe I got it somewhere, maybe I lost it.
Speaker 1: I lost something. I lost the what was it Albert's
Speaker 1: gift certificate? I don't know where we were.
Speaker 3: It was the local the local local.
Speaker 1: UH league for this.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So when I decided to start pursuing a career
Speaker 4: in sports media, I just started blogging. You know, blog
Speaker 4: Spot was the big thing back then. So my wife
Speaker 4: was very encouraging. She said, just just start blogging. You
Speaker 4: just never quite known. So I did. Right now. This
Speaker 4: was the first article I ever had published.
Speaker 1: Right, how do you have a photo of you with
Speaker 1: your first right?
Speaker 4: This is on this is on real GM right. Okay,
Speaker 4: So that was when I got one published. I was
Speaker 4: pretty excited. I was like, wow, I've had one published
Speaker 4: because I wrote a lot of articles and then I
Speaker 4: just sent emailed everyone I could possibly do, and you know,
Speaker 4: you get like two bites back. And so I wrote
Speaker 4: one for real GM and I was pretty excited. I
Speaker 4: was like, wow, I'm actually you know, it's published, and
Speaker 4: I was excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it was about I think it was after
Speaker 4: the two thousand and eight playoffs the Spurs didn't repeat
Speaker 4: and I did the old other Spurs done.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 4: I think that's what it was. I don't think it
Speaker 4: exists on that on the website anymore, but anyway, I
Speaker 4: was super pumped. I was like, wow, there's the first
Speaker 4: little step, because real GM is still a pretty respectable site,
Speaker 4: you know, and so to get my Arctic Club, I
Speaker 4: was excited. At this same time, my wife Roxanna was
Speaker 4: creating her own iPad excuse me, iPhone app.
Speaker 1: My waife is still jobs.
Speaker 4: Because we used to live right near the underground path
Speaker 4: there in Toronto, and Roxanna was like, this should be
Speaker 4: an app, This would be a great app. And so
Speaker 4: she would get up, like, you know, first thing in
Speaker 4: the morning on weekends, sometimes on Thursdays and Friday as well.
Speaker 4: I just walk around mapping the entire path right building
Speaker 4: her own app and the.
Speaker 1: Hold hold on, are you serious, I've never heard this story.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, she created map the Path for Toronto and
Speaker 4: it was the day on her own.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, she had to pay like a developer
Speaker 4: who actually put it together, but she was the one
Speaker 4: who did it all. And so on the day it launched,
Speaker 4: it took off. It really took off. And the next
Speaker 4: morning after it launched, I was walking over to the
Speaker 4: to the score and here she was on the twenty
Speaker 4: four hour.
Speaker 1: Newspaper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Daily on the front page, front page.
Speaker 1: Now, the mayor at the.
Speaker 4: Time, I can't remember his name actually who the mayor
Speaker 4: was at the time, but the Mayor's office of Toronto
Speaker 4: got a phone call from someone saying, oh, it's great
Speaker 4: you've got this app. You know, what's the story? And
Speaker 4: he was like, I have no idea what this app is.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. Roxanna also went on
Speaker 4: CP twenty four on that tech show that they did.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, she was on that. Yeah, she was
Speaker 4: on that. She was getting phone calls from news outlets
Speaker 4: asking her about it. A guy wanted to buy the
Speaker 4: data off her as well. Like people went crazy for
Speaker 4: it and yeah, and she was like, she's not the
Speaker 4: person who likes all that sort of attention. So when
Speaker 4: they called up and said, hey, we want to take
Speaker 4: a photo, I want to do a little article, she
Speaker 4: was like, Oh, I'm really nervous. I'm really nervous. And
Speaker 4: so I was just like, hmm, real GM, that's me.
Speaker 4: And here she is on a front page on page
Speaker 4: of the Daily You Downtown Toronto.
Speaker 1: I wish that was on the front page of the
Speaker 1: local man rates blog post.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So so yeah, she definitely won up to me.
Speaker 4: But I was very very excited for her, very happy
Speaker 4: for her, and yeah it was great.
Speaker 1: Well that's amazic. So what so what ended up? Like,
Speaker 1: are you guys rich because of those path.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, unfortunately we couldn't really get it quite off the
Speaker 4: ground because once we got to that point, we really
Speaker 4: needed a big cash injection to take it to the
Speaker 4: next level and we didn't quite have it at the time.
Speaker 4: And yeah, unfortunately didn't work out. But it was great.
Speaker 4: She had her own up and fun. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: amazing that day when you know, someone from the you know,
Speaker 4: the Mayor's office called her up and said, can you
Speaker 4: tell us about this app? And she was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I just created it myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She just like because she was getting lost in
Speaker 1: the path all the time and was like, we need
Speaker 1: a nap us down there.
Speaker 4: Basically that was exact actly what it was. And she
Speaker 4: had problems with the Wi Fi down there as well,
Speaker 4: because you know, it wouldn't pick it up. So I
Speaker 4: herd to hold design. She just walked down like shop
Speaker 4: to shop to shop drew. It took her months to
Speaker 4: put it all together, and it came together. It was
Speaker 4: really good. I really wish we could have pursued it
Speaker 4: a little bit more and had the you know, the
Speaker 4: money and the development and all that to put into it,
Speaker 4: because it was it was a great idea. I don't
Speaker 4: know if there's one now. There may be probably is
Speaker 4: one out there someway because this was like, yeah, like
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, so you know, the iPhone and
Speaker 4: apps were still very much in their infancy at that point.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. What a story. Yeah, yeah for the Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: for those that don't know Toronto, it's all this is
Speaker 1: all underground. You know, you don't want to go outside
Speaker 1: in the winter, right, So all these paths lead from
Speaker 1: building to building and they go through stores and like
Speaker 1: it's it is amaze down there. If you don't really
Speaker 1: know where you're going I guess they have a lot
Speaker 1: of signage now so they can point you in the
Speaker 1: right direction. Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 4: I mean we had the ideas of, like, you know,
Speaker 4: for the restaurants and stuff down there in the food court,
Speaker 4: you know, you get it. You get a disc town
Speaker 4: if you use the app, and shops would have sales
Speaker 4: and promotions. So we had the idea of how it
Speaker 4: was going to make money. But I mean I just yeah,
Speaker 4: you needed like sales team, pr team you needed and
Speaker 4: we needed more developers as well. Like the one guy
Speaker 4: did a great job, but he was just a guy
Speaker 4: who she just found on I don't know, and read
Speaker 4: it or somewhere she said, hey, can you do this.
Speaker 1: I like to think that Roxy asked you to help
Speaker 1: out and you're like, sorry, I'm writing about the spurs
Speaker 1: being done. Duncan looks washed.
Speaker 5: I gotta get this to try and get on dragons
Speaker 5: d then.
Speaker 4: I think it was I don't think it was around then,
Speaker 4: but no, yeah, we should.
Speaker 1: Have amazing, great story. I at least enjoyed that story.
Speaker 1: Maybe from Toronto, but I can't believe I've never heard
Speaker 1: that one to ask do you have.
Speaker 5: Anything or I mean, not anything that compares to that story,
Speaker 5: So I'll sit this one out. Yeah, man, I could
Speaker 5: see that on dragons. Then it's man, sorry, which is
Speaker 5: the original shark tank? American stole it?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it like actually walked it herself.
Speaker 4: And like, yeah, threw it. All were pre kids, pre kids,
Speaker 4: and we live right there on the path. So she,
Speaker 4: like I said, she was up first thing on weekends
Speaker 4: and spent hours down there, like three or four hours
Speaker 4: down there a day, just walking around, and she had
Speaker 4: this vision. She was putting it together. I was like, what,
Speaker 4: what's an iPhone? I didn't even have an iPhone? I
Speaker 4: was like what that She came back, you know, and
Speaker 4: you know, because it costs probably probably cost about ten
Speaker 4: grand in total, and I was a bit like whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 4: well just the developer, that was what he was charging
Speaker 4: and yeah, and then yeah, it was on the iPhone
Speaker 4: and it didn't work on the Android it sort of
Speaker 4: for the first day or so. Yeah, but they fixed
Speaker 4: that up. But she was she was a celebrity there.
Speaker 7: The task couldn't couldn't use it. Android doesn't work on
Speaker 7: not use it all right? Wow, what an ending to this.
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