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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. Richard Sarah's sitting

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Speaker 1: in for George Norri. Coming to you live from Coast Toronto,

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Speaker 1: Canada affiliate in Depth Radio News Talk ten ten. Lucy

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Speaker 1: Pringle is with us, one of the world's leading crop

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Speaker 1: circle photographers and researchers, and we are talking about the

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Speaker 1: energies of crop circles. That's the title of a book

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Speaker 1: she co authored along with James Lyons. Before the break,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the survey, the rather in depth

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Speaker 1: survey you send to people who go into crop circles

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Speaker 1: and report certain health effects, and I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: finish off with that before we move on. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that you said was people report this strange

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Speaker 1: metallic taste inside their mouth, and then as soon as

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Speaker 1: they leave the circle, that taste is gone, So that

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Speaker 1: energy is present inside the circle. Do they still Do

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Speaker 1: people experience that when they're simply looking at a photograph

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Speaker 1: or at a Slide's very interesting question to answer that.

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Speaker 1: I've never had a single report about that, So it

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Speaker 1: seems that there's some additional quality when you're actually physically

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Speaker 1: inside the circle to when you're you're looking at it

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Speaker 1: at a distance or pictures, et cetera. Now you sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. We've had the mental rarely is the largest

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Speaker 1: category where people's thought processes are affected. Short term memory loss,

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Speaker 1: feelings of panic and terror. I've had quite a few

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Speaker 1: of those, people just building up till it reaches a

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Speaker 1: state of terror and they rush out um evil feeling

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Speaker 1: of evilness. Then on the other side of the coin,

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Speaker 1: because you get this all the time, the sort of

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Speaker 1: completely diametrically different effects, feelings of peace and love and light,

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Speaker 1: disorientation and sense of the presence. Now, this again is

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Speaker 1: one that is quite often reported to me. It's a

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Speaker 1: very somebody else is in there. And I was a

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Speaker 1: very very curious, very curious story of a wonderful crops circle.

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Speaker 1: There was a bythorne in Cambridge, and there were a

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Speaker 1: group of people meditating inside the circle and they got

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Speaker 1: their eyes closed, and one of them heard somebody walk

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Speaker 1: up towards the circle and sit down beside her. Well

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Speaker 1: after they finished their meditation, she looked on and there

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Speaker 1: wasn't another person there, and she felt very very embarrassed

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Speaker 1: about this, and she didn't mention it until the person

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Speaker 1: who then was sitting beside her said, well, that person

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Speaker 1: who joined us in the circle, nobody had been there,

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Speaker 1: and it was almost as though it was the Geni Loci,

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Speaker 1: which was the guardian of the land. You know, um

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Speaker 1: people talk about the Guia, the Guyau complex. Well, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the earth being a living, breathing organism,

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Speaker 1: and it seems as that was the guardian of that circle,

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Speaker 1: it's really rather lovely. And I've had other reports like that.

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Speaker 1: Is it related to the proximity of some of these

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Speaker 1: megalithic structures like the stone circles that I have in Averbury? Well, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would think it is, but nearly where all these

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Speaker 1: on over ninety are on um chalk land, and there's

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Speaker 1: a very very important part of the whole formation process.

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Speaker 1: And just missed looking for an extraordinary story I had

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Speaker 1: sent to me by what very strange happening at astry.

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Speaker 1: I don't seem to be able to find it for

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Speaker 1: the moment where just to give you a resource of outline,

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Speaker 1: somebody there was there was a little family or a

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Speaker 1: group of people aren't camping very close to aistry in

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Speaker 1: one of the fields, and the next morning one of

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Speaker 1: them woke up very early and found himself the other

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Speaker 1: side of the fence. Now he had no recollection of

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Speaker 1: getting over the fence, and in any cases was barbois,

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Speaker 1: and he had no scratches on him, his clothes weren't torn.

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Speaker 1: He had no idea how that had happened. Suddenly he

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Speaker 1: the barb wire. Sense almost as if he had been

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Speaker 1: levitated exactly, or he'd been transported over me because these again,

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Speaker 1: as we were saying, the energies there is so powerful.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your co author, James Lyons. He's an

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Speaker 1: engineer and he specializes in aeronautical research. How did you

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Speaker 1: hook up with him? And how did he how does

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Speaker 1: he approach that any really interesting man. He is a

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Speaker 1: mainstream scientist obviously, and he's always been fascinated by dowsing

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Speaker 1: and generally a He's a man with a huge capacity

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Speaker 1: of investigation and a knowledge and um he retired like

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Speaker 1: so many scientists, they feel able to voice theories and

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Speaker 1: hypotheses which maybe would be in conflict with mainstream science,

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Speaker 1: and his scientific investigations may sound a little revolutionary at times,

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Speaker 1: but they will they will be proved true. He's ahead

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Speaker 1: of his time. He's a man who is ahead of

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Speaker 1: his time. He's absolutely brilliant. Well he sees he seems

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Speaker 1: to be drawing a connection between the formation of crop

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Speaker 1: in particular Auroras borealis. Aurora borealis. I'm sorry, what is

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Speaker 1: the connection that he drives between Aurora borealis and crop circles? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's written, But I think it stems from the fact

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Speaker 1: that many people ask, you know, how do these these

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Speaker 1: things appear? And from when? Whence they come? His basic

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Speaker 1: statement is that we must look. We need to start

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Speaker 1: with our solar systems and start with the Sun, which

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Speaker 1: is the key energy source, which is electrically charged like

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Speaker 1: the positive end terminal of a battery. I e. The

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Speaker 1: Sun is the positive end and the Earth is the

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Speaker 1: negative end. And I'm just reading here. What he says

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Speaker 1: is amist particles incessantly and this is termed the solar

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Speaker 1: wind um. At the moment, the Sun has on its

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Speaker 1: surface black looking surface features which from which spiraling tubes

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Speaker 1: of energy are omitted. These are so called torsion ways

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Speaker 1: because of this essentially twisting nature. These strike the magnetosphere

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Speaker 1: which surrounds the Earth. Is a there a charge particle

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Speaker 1: supported by the Earth's magnetic field. Breaking this there occasionally

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Speaker 1: breaks down and lets through these sun ways. They mainly

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Speaker 1: enter the Earth rather poles, which give rise to the

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Speaker 1: Aurora Boreas at the North Bowl and the Aurora Australasia

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Speaker 1: at the South Bowl. Breaking through at other points around

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Speaker 1: the Earth gives rise to very high altitude effects name

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Speaker 1: as sprites. Then he goes on to say all of

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Speaker 1: this is a source of electric charge we find around

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Speaker 1: the Earth. The Earth is negatively charged and acts like

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Speaker 1: the terminal of a battery. The charge which is within

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Speaker 1: the Earth is arranged into patterns like cymatic patterns on

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Speaker 1: side sand on a vibrating drum surface. These key structures

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Speaker 1: are north south east west grid patterns, which we detect

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Speaker 1: important because those are the main grid lines, but there

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Speaker 1: are thousands of smaller lines are stemming from these main

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Speaker 1: grid lines. And again we call them energy lines or

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Speaker 1: may lines, and all these all crops circles appear on

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Speaker 1: you have as as well. As there are so many

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Speaker 1: of these grids, they're obviously going have crossover points at

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Speaker 1: at several points. And these are the areas are huge,

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Speaker 1: huge electric energy. And if you will find that all

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Speaker 1: they're all on these noble points, so our cathedrals, so

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Speaker 1: our churches, and so our crop circles. But it all

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Speaker 1: sounds rather random, lucy, But obviously there's there must be

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Speaker 1: an intelligence behind this, that is, that is somehow manipulating

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Speaker 1: these forces that you just described manipulating the force. Now

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Speaker 1: I think that's a purely physical force, all right, But

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Speaker 1: but but I mean again it sounds random. So so

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Speaker 1: how are these how are these? I mean, and you

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Speaker 1: What is the intelligence behind what is the intelligence behind

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Speaker 1: this is actually pure basic physics. But this is actually

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Speaker 1: what happens um in the And Jim James goes on

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the cosmos. He goes down onto this

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Speaker 1: in in fair any good detail in the book. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that is I hate to say that.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is is basic physics the world.

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Speaker 1: And these are energy lines. You can't see them, but

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Speaker 1: just like elepricity, you can't see it. And that I

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Speaker 1: can tell you. I've got an energy line in my kitchen.

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Speaker 1: It's a very strong line and it's a very beneficial line.

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Speaker 1: But somebody told me because at midnight on the e

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Speaker 1: how this happened, but I didn't really believe this. And

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Speaker 1: wasn't there anymore. So I thought, well, I don't understand this,

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Speaker 1: I I didn't he so there, yes, that can happen.

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Speaker 1: So there were many many things we just well, I

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Speaker 1: simply don't understand at all. Many people who you know,

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Speaker 1: but some people certainly have talked about the presence of

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Speaker 1: of crop circles. But you seem to be suggesting this

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Speaker 1: is pure is purely a physics phenomena, purely physical. Um well,

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Speaker 1: I think the actual formation is purely physical, but the

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Speaker 1: a subject which is listarious. We don't know the answers

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