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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience.

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Speaker 1: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit.

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Speaker 2: Down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our

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Speaker 2: favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we are

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Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 1: Hey, rain drops.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode of Reality with the King, we are

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Speaker 2: going to dissect the reason why Garcel Bouvet left The

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Speaker 2: Warehousewives of Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: She quit, She quit the show. She did not get fired.

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Speaker 2: All of my sources who are credible have confirmed that

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Speaker 2: Garcel in fact did quit. Before we dive into it,

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 1: Really talk about Garcel Bouvet.

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Speaker 2: I decided to do this episode solo, okay, because I

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Speaker 2: wanted y'all to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.

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Speaker 2: So call me mister ed Honey. It's the Kentucky Derby, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I am an equestrian like Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 1: And I here.

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Speaker 2: All things circle back to Teddy. I'm here to give

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Speaker 2: the real reason why she left. In my opinion, Hey Tama, judge,

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Speaker 2: see what I did there. But before we get into that,

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Speaker 2: I want to start this episode off bye making sure

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Speaker 2: we do one thing, and that's give Garcel Bouvet her flowers.

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Speaker 2: What we're not going to do is negate her contributions

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood. She has had a long career, and I

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Speaker 2: have said this on my platform many times right that

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Speaker 2: in the black community, Garcell is an icon to us.

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Speaker 2: We know who she is. She has starred the music videos,

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Speaker 2: notably Luther Van Draws music video. She was fancy on

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Speaker 2: the long running series A Jamie Fox Show. She is

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Speaker 2: somebody who we all love in this community. And what

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do is make sure that we give Garcel

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Speaker 2: bove her props. In the words of Fatera Parks Okay

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Speaker 2: Season four reunion, Garcel is pre Housewives. Housewives did not

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Speaker 2: make Garsel. Garcila made Housewives of Belly Hills interesting when

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Speaker 2: she got on, not that it wasn't interesting before she

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Speaker 2: got on. But what we're not gonna do is pretend

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Speaker 2: like when Garcel got on, she didn't stir the pot.

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Speaker 2: And when I say stir the pot, I mean she

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Speaker 2: added something into the gumbo that was that show. She

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Speaker 2: was a forced multiplier. She was somebody who had an opinion.

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Speaker 2: When Garcella was announced as a housewife, we all were

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Speaker 2: like gagging. And when I say we all, I'll speak

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Speaker 2: for my community, the black community. We all gaged because

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Speaker 2: it was like, oh my god, somebody of Garceabluby's stature

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Speaker 2: is joining a reality show.

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Speaker 1: It was a big deal. It really was a big

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Speaker 1: deal for us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And when she got on the show, I loved

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Speaker 2: everything about her. She's first of all, she's beautiful, she's funny.

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Speaker 2: Her friendship with Denise rich Church and Lis Sarranda were

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Speaker 1: That's why she immediately.

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Speaker 2: Became the fan favorite, because she was a breath of

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Speaker 2: fresh air, a breath of fresh air that I even

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Speaker 2: felt like Beverly Hills needed at that time. On the show,

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Speaker 2: what We're not Gonna do is at like Beverly Hills

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Speaker 2: has been that girl for fourteen consecutive seasons. Okay, they

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Speaker 2: had this housewife called Joyce Honey that we Joyce's gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Joyce was not that girl. A lot of the girls

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Speaker 2: that came on were not that girl. Garcel came on

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Speaker 2: and brought something to the show. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: negate that, whether you like her or not, you're not

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Speaker 2: going to negate that. She made her season on the

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Speaker 1: She was a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what happens oftentimes when it comes to anyone who

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Speaker 2: that Garcell has said, and this podcast Reality for the King,

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Speaker 2: we go deeper in terms of the psychology of these

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Speaker 1: A fucking fact. Okay, Garcel was.

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Speaker 2: The fan favorite when she got on the show her

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Speaker 2: a publication during an interview, she called herself a fan favorite.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when she did that. I stopped in

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Speaker 2: Said, baby, whatever you do, do not drink the kool

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Speaker 2: aid that is social media, because how would you know

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Speaker 2: Reading the comments. Do you know what I'm saying? Like,

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Speaker 2: there's no scoreboard on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: With Stephen A. Smith where they're tracking your stats.

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Speaker 2: There's no stats on the Bravo board of the Real Housewives.

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Speaker 1: So when you make a.

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Speaker 2: Statement of that magnitude that you're the fan favorite, the

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Speaker 2: reason why it stopped me in my tracks is because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, ooh, Garcel, whatever.

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Speaker 1: You do, do not believe.

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Speaker 2: The hype, because when it comes to the audience, they

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Speaker 2: And one thing Tama Judge has said, You're only as

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Speaker 2: good as your last episode. You're only as good as

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Speaker 2: your last episode. Okay, reality TV audiences are fickle because

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Speaker 2: they base their attraction. Let's have a real conversation, rain Drops, we.

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Speaker 1: Do it too.

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Speaker 2: I am a fan and a viewer of reality television

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Speaker 2: before I became the producer. When we watch reality stars,

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Speaker 2: we watch you based on.

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Speaker 1: Huh do I like you or not? We don't know

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Speaker 2: We're only basing things off of what we see on

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Speaker 2: the show, which is why we can love you one

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Speaker 2: biggest Kyle Ritriss fan that you would ever meet in life.

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Speaker 2: This season, Kyle, my girl was looking good. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna lose my credibility and not call things out that

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Speaker 2: wrong for texting PK without texting Dery. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: I hate Kyle. It just means Kyle bib don't look

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Speaker 1: Sis.

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Speaker 2: But I will always ride for Kyle. She's my girl.

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Speaker 2: Let me ride Exhibit MTV show. That's all I'm saying

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Speaker 2: featuring Doctor Drane Snoop the Chronic album, Just saying, AnyWho,

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Speaker 2: I digress. So I was worried about gar Sub because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, baby, you come from Hollywood. This is different, baby,

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Speaker 2: Reality TV is different. You're not the fan favorite in

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to.

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Speaker 2: So, Garseil ventured into a new genre of entertainment, and

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Speaker 2: They love you one day, hate you the next. And

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Speaker 2: I do believe that Garcel drank the kool aid and

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Speaker 2: I love her.

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Speaker 1: I love Garcel, but I gotta keep it honest here.

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Speaker 2: She drank it, okay, added some Domino sugar in it,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, A lemon slices of lemon.

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Speaker 1: She drank the kool aid.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but she's not the first to do it, and

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Speaker 1: A lot of these girls drink the kool aid. Okay.

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Speaker 2: What happened to Garsel in terms of her quitting the

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Speaker 2: show conveniently before the trailer of the Real house Voss

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Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills was released, everything is done in a

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, oh, two things right. Number One,

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Speaker 2: we all know that the real housewife status on the

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Speaker 2: it was also strategic in my opinion to say it

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Speaker 2: But she also said these women aren't my friends, so

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Speaker 1: Let's say it before the finale number two.

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Speaker 2: The trailer is going to be released, and I need

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Speaker 2: at the reunion. Garcel presidence of her housewives has definitely

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Speaker 2: And what Carlos King ain't about to do is allow

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Speaker 2: She may not have been Phoebe on Friends Child, but Baby,

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Speaker 2: Let's be clear, we love Garcel Buvet. Housewives has been

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Speaker 2: great for Garsel and vice versa. She has used a

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Speaker 2: commercials like Garsel is that Girl, and she has deserved

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Speaker 2: every single accolade. And we are proud of Garcel. What

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Speaker 2: happened to Garsel this season? This was her toughest season,

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Speaker 2: and it makes me a little bit sad because I

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Speaker 2: don't like when people have great seasons and they stay

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Speaker 1: But the moment you have one bad season.

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Speaker 2: And when I say one bad season, I mean in

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Speaker 2: on Twitter and social media turned on Garsel. I was shocked.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming. And if Carlos King didn't

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Speaker 2: did not see that comment, bitch, Garcel did not either.

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Speaker 2: Garcel had a very tough season, not only on the show,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of people like Garsel, we see you

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Speaker 2: for who you are.

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Speaker 1: Now. This is what they said, honey.

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Speaker 2: People were calling Garcel out for the way she treated Duritt,

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Speaker 2: for her intimating that the robbery was stage for her.

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Speaker 1: Really, these are what people were saying.

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Speaker 2: They felt like Garsel was doing too much to derete

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Speaker 1: Okay, girl, give it up, give it up delicious. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Shut out to New York Tiffany Pollard, give it up delicious.

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Speaker 2: And if you believe the hype, you also have to

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Speaker 1: It goes hand in hand. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Y'all like each other the way I like the cashier

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Speaker 2: It's based on a convenience. We are two new women

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Speaker 1: I'll watched that two child. Oh my gosh, you want

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Speaker 1: No, let's be real, child.

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Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,

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Speaker 2: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 2: Just because we have an opinion about somebody doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: are trying to pit Bows and Garsel against each other,

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Speaker 2: y'all go to Augusta, Georgia and her mother, Reba reads

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Speaker 1: If Garcel does not call out.

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Speaker 2: Rebus microaggressions the way she did the read Houston, we

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Speaker 2: the blinders on when it comes to Reba. If Dereet

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Speaker 2: Sutton and Garcel are now having issues because there is

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Speaker 2: no real friends say this to each other, Hey, you

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Speaker 2: didn't have my back.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you stand up for me? Why didn't you

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Speaker 1: back me up?

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Speaker 2: This isn't a juvenile record back that ass up like

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Speaker 2: juvenile two thousand's like back up? What friends talk like this.

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Speaker 2: I've had friends since I was eleven years old. When

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Speaker 2: we go to the drag brunch, we don't say, well, damn, bitch,

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Speaker 2: you didn't have my back when this drag queen was

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Speaker 2: dancing to Lady Gaga instead of Christina Aguilera. No friends

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Speaker 2: talk like that, Hey, you didn't defend me.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh. We all have our own thought.

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Speaker 2: When you guys watched reality TV, anytime you see a

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Speaker 1: That's called an alliance.

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Speaker 2: So when Garcelles said on the region trailer, these aren't

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Speaker 2: my real friends, will bet you by golly wow. Because

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Speaker 2: I got read for filth, you're.

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Speaker 2: But when Garcel says that, oh my gosh, Garcel, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're not your friends. I told you girl, so na't

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Speaker 2: believe the hype. I call things like I see it,

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Speaker 2: and one thing about me. You guys may get things late,

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Speaker 2: and when I say late, you'll catch on to that shit. Late,

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Speaker 2: Garcela and Sutton will not be friends after this season.

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Speaker 2: You would not see them take trips to Augusta you

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Speaker 1: Sutton's main road that she lives on.

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Speaker 2: Heydari, garcel and someon would not be friends in three

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Speaker 2: years And I've called that shit out three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Once again, Carlos Cleo King has been right, because I

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Speaker 2: She's directing, she's acting, and she deserves all the blessing

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Speaker 2: that God has given her. She doesn't want to do

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Speaker 1: That is Bowse and Dereed.

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Speaker 2: Y'all, I love Sutton this season, and y'all mad at

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Speaker 2: me for loving son. Oh my gosh, what she said

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Speaker 2: about the wallet is so goach. It's so gross. Who

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Speaker 2: that when Linda Thompson, who was married to Bruce Jenner

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Speaker 2: was watch season I want to say season five of

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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills Housewives, Linda Thompson made a comment about something

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Speaker 2: what this This is how people talk in the nine

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Speaker 2: to two one oh shit? But I don't take things

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Speaker 2: like so when Linda Thompson said something about being so

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Speaker 2: it's the same episode where fay Resnik told Brendy Lambville,

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Speaker 1: Be a lady.

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Speaker 2: So rain drops homework assignment. Watched that episode. Linda Thompson

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Speaker 2: So I love that something was herself, But again was

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Speaker 2: that's why she's leaving the show. To me, it has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with everything she said. Yes, she is

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Speaker 2: that's not I just don't think that's fair, which brings

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Speaker 2: Moore of all the housewives across all franchises, has had

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Speaker 2: The more meant let's have a real conversation. Kenya got

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Speaker 2: Kenya has had bad seasons and still showed up.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: At least a Vanda Pump quit the show and then

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Speaker 2: not show to the reunion. I love Garsella, but I

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Speaker 2: the reason why I'm saying this is because I watched

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Speaker 2: the trailer. There's a new trailer that came out recently

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Speaker 2: where Garcilla says, well, I'm the bad guy. Is that

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Speaker 2: the end of the world that you're the bad guy

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Speaker 2: in one season? Garsell, you're very opinionated, and that's great,

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Speaker 2: that's fantastic. You had an opinion since you got on

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Speaker 2: your other cast mats to say, Okay, okay, we see

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Speaker 2: we're coming for you, like, oh, we're coming for you.

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Speaker 2: We're coming for you, We're coming for you, we are

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Speaker 2: that interesting. These girls are coming for Garcel because they're

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Speaker 2: let's talk talk cash money shit, and you oftentimes don't

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Speaker 2: have that same energy in their faces. That's that's how

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Speaker 2: the I promise you, that's how the girls are feeling.

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Speaker 2: They're say, Okay, Garcil, girl, let's go. That's why Erica

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Speaker 2: Jane ain't tripping, Erica Jane said on watching What Happens Live.

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Speaker 2: When Garcel listen Erica through the first shade right when

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Speaker 2: and the will Smiths and the Eddie Murphy's of the

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Speaker 2: Garcels shaded Erica by saying, well, at least I'm married

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Speaker 2: Then Erica said, bitch, I got one better for you.

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Speaker 2: We both marry ugly white men. I believe she said

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Speaker 2: we both married old, ugly white men. So girl, stop,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But to be that's fun shade.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fun shade. I am disappointed that Garcela left.

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Speaker 2: Kenya Moore never left, never left, and no housewife has

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Speaker 2: ever had it worse than Kenya Moore, Teresa Judie never left,

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Speaker 2: stood there ten toes down and said, let's go. That

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Speaker 2: is the fan favorite for five seasons and they have

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Speaker 2: one bad season and it's like, well, I gotta go,

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Speaker 2: bitch times calling me honey, I guts to go. I

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Speaker 2: more of her, and I also wanted to see the

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Speaker 2: trying to pit Bulls and Garcilla against each other. All

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Speaker 2: black people do not have to agree on the same

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Speaker 2: topic in every fucking situation. It's okay for a black

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Speaker 2: person to disagree or have a difference of opinion with

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Speaker 2: another black person.

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Speaker 1: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's a difference between eviscerating a black person when you're

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Speaker 2: a black person, that's disgusting to like go out of

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Speaker 2: your way to inviscerate them. But if I feel like, well,

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Speaker 2: I think Dere's cool, Well, I don't think Dure's great.

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Speaker 1: All right, girl, I think you tried it. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think you tried it. That's okay to to to try to.

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Speaker 2: Say, well, bowls you should be having guarcils back or garcidl, Well,

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Speaker 2: you should be having bows back, unless it's a topic

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Speaker 2: about the happenings of the black community.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Bolls in Garceell should have each other's back just because

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Speaker 2: they're both black women. These are two strong Black women

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Speaker 2: with different walks of life and views and opinions, and

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Speaker 2: it's okay for them to not.

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Speaker 1: Agree on every single thing.

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Speaker 2: Y'all are pitting these women against each other, and I

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Speaker 2: don't like it one thing about black people in the

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Speaker 2: majority of white spaces.

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Speaker 1: And I'll speak from experience.

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Speaker 2: I have ninety five percent of my career been the

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Speaker 2: only black person in the room. And one thing that

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Speaker 2: anybody who knows we can say is when a black

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Speaker 2: person would enter, I'll say, come here, we're best friends,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk, and I'm gonna get to know

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Speaker 2: you and I'm gonna help you. And it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: mean this person are going to agree on every fucking

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Speaker 2: thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: Who wants to live a life that way.

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Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to go out of my

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Speaker 2: way to diminish you, disrespect you.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to uplift you.

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Speaker 2: Is the reason why one of my good friends is

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Speaker 2: Justin Selvester Okay, he is one of my good friends

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Speaker 2: who I love.

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Speaker 1: I met him at the gym.

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Speaker 2: We have the same trainer, and we were introduced and

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Speaker 2: I said, first of all, Justin, I'm a fan of yours.

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Speaker 2: I think you're the greatest thing on e and we're

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Speaker 2: going to be best friends.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That was it.

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Speaker 2: I saw a gay black man who looked like me,

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Speaker 2: and I said, come here, I love you and he said, no, bitch,

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Speaker 2: I love you.

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Speaker 1: You're Carlos King. I said, bitch, you're Justin Sylvester. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's one of my good friends.

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Speaker 2: I do that all the time every time I meet

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Speaker 2: a black person, when we're in predominantly white spaces, I

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Speaker 2: go out of my way to be like, come here,

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Speaker 2: we're going to have a conversation and get to know

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Speaker 2: each other and give each other spaces to relate.

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Speaker 1: Give each other. Also the t like, look, girl, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get this, do that. Look boy.

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Speaker 2: Do That's what I do to all my friends in

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Speaker 2: this industry. Me and Carrama Brown, our good friends, Me

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Speaker 2: and Scott Evans are great, Like, I love all these

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Speaker 2: people because we all know what it's like to be

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Speaker 2: the only and one thing me and my tribe that

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Speaker 2: we do. We help each other, but it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that we all agree on a topic. It's okay to

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Speaker 2: disagree on something. Me and Justin Sylvester disagree on several things,

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Speaker 2: and we keep it pushing because we're individuals. But the

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Speaker 2: moment something happens within our community, me and Justin be like, okay, bitch,

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Speaker 2: what be doing you know what I'm saying, That's what

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Speaker 2: we do. And I wanted to see Garcel and Bowls

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Speaker 2: have that level of friendship. So I'm also sad that

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Speaker 2: Garcel isn't coming back to the show because I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to see the possibilities of the power dynamics between

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Speaker 2: her and Bows, because they are both beautiful, strong, amazing

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Speaker 2: women who are very different but can compliment each other

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Speaker 2: in a very interaction. And I am sad that we're

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Speaker 2: not going to get that anymore, or get that in general.

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Speaker 2: And even if Bows and Garsel disagreed after reunion, it's

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Speaker 2: a fucking reunion. You're supposed to disagree. Oh sorry, I

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Speaker 2: have to vent for a second, but I'm back. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: I am going to miss garsela on the show. I

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Speaker 2: thought she brought value to it. I thought she brought

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Speaker 2: opinions to it, beauty to it, and just relevance in

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Speaker 2: terms of her very different view on this world. And

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Speaker 2: what's going to be interesting is to see how Sutton

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Speaker 2: fares without Garcel, mark my words, her rain drops. Come

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Speaker 2: next season, Sutton and Kyle are going to be besties.

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Speaker 2: And you heard it here first, because with Garsel out

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Speaker 2: of the web. It is now time for Sudden to

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Speaker 2: play cash that.

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