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Speaker 1: My favorite clip of views when you told old boy

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Speaker 1: I bullied the bully and you said it, and you

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Speaker 1: said it with a calm voice, that cod like that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know.

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Speaker 3: So you know me and Boogie we always go at it.

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Speaker 3: That's my boy side, the Boogie. But you know he's

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Speaker 3: with Buddy Hill. You know.

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Speaker 2: You know Buddy Be talking a lot, so Buddy talking to.

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Speaker 1: Him, you know, Buddy Hill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Sacramento so I think, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Buddy, Yeah, that's playing with Be talking a lot of trash.

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Speaker 2: He talk a lot.

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Speaker 3: That's my boy though in a good way, but you

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Speaker 3: know he you know, he talked a lot of him

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Speaker 3: and Boogie was going at it. Boogie like boy, you know,

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Speaker 3: he on his I just sticking enough a buddy like, man,

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Speaker 3: chill out, leave him alone, just stall him out.

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Speaker 2: D boss.

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Speaker 3: Why I told Boogie Stolly out? You know from where

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Speaker 3: the bullies get bullied.

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Speaker 1: Did Yeah. When I heard that line, I was like, damn.

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Speaker 1: Like usually I don't say damn. When you said that,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, that's a tough line right there.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead at him shot.

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Speaker 4: That's what I feel like one of your ethos is

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Speaker 4: like if you think you bad, I'm the baddest alive.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like Zebo had that mentality too, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you think you're a bully, I'm a bully you. I

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Speaker 4: just I still love it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't try to bully you. Yeah, let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: I've always all the players that I respect, like I

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Speaker 1: don't give it to them then, but I give it

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Speaker 1: to you now. I always loved you, so I know

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Speaker 1: you t Mac, Vince Carter, Jason Williams and Ai like

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Speaker 1: I just I did.

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Speaker 2: I did try to believe now you just help you

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Speaker 1: You just yeah, but I never messaged you.

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Speaker 3: You always show love live on man.

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Speaker 1: I like a big dude that plays me because that's

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Speaker 1: our era. So like now when we're sitting up there

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Speaker 1: commentator were talking about these guys in the era, of

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Speaker 1: course we talk about what we know and they think

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Speaker 1: it's hating. Like I had to jump on Cat. Don't

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Speaker 1: know Cat know his mom rest in peace and know

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Speaker 1: his dad the beautiful And I told his mom and

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Speaker 1: dad said I'm gonna stay on him. You know what

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Speaker 1: they said, please do? They said, please do. So I'm

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Speaker 1: on them, not because I don't like him and I

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Speaker 1: I want you to go to that next level. Like

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Speaker 1: Cat reminds me, you inside outside pump fake could take

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Speaker 3: So that's why he's doing it, because you big bro.

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Speaker 3: That's motivation, because I see you getting on guys because

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Speaker 3: that means you believe in them, you see something in them.

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Speaker 3: So when you're getting on it, they think it's hating,

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Speaker 3: but I'll be sitting back watching. I'm like, no, that's motivation.

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Speaker 3: So that's why Cat going out there playing like a

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Speaker 3: dog because he hear you and him too, you know,

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Speaker 3: not just all the other noise, but he hear you

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Speaker 3: too for sure.

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Speaker 1: So the answer you just gave, how come many other

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Speaker 1: guys on that, like, how come they really think I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Having because they it's the new age, new era.

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Speaker 3: They don't understand it this, you know, it's that whole

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask you, Memphis, John Moran. You

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Speaker 1: know he went through the little stretches he went through.

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Speaker 1: You're a og. You ever trying to holler at them

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Speaker 3: Him for sure, you know, you know j he is

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Speaker 3: a special player. I always say he's special that you know,

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Speaker 3: we need him in Memphis. Man, that's that's the city,

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Speaker 3: that's the team, everything. One of the best players in

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Speaker 3: he's been through, you know, like I just tell him,

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Speaker 2: Just keep your head up high because I've been through

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And it ain't about It's about how you bounce back,

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Speaker 3: and how he bounce it back is being great.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: He got to keep on gaining and keep on moving

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Speaker 3: forward to what he's doing and stacking and stacking days

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Speaker 4: I think one thing that I see in Shack's game

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Speaker 4: else go man, sub me out. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: deal with it anymore. Like what does that do for

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Speaker 3: Man for me, you know what I did the game

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Speaker 3: and change. Guys don't only get double team no more.

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Speaker 3: They used to double teams out of me. They're talking

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Speaker 3: about catching on the block. I used to get mad

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Speaker 3: to Coach Cheeks pulled me to the side, says, Eboe,

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Speaker 3: that's a good thing in practicing. I'm like, damn, coach,

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Speaker 3: they only let me go one on one. When I

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Speaker 3: that's a good thing, is ebo. When you got too

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Speaker 3: they used to call me the black hole.

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Speaker 2: So when he got too so, uh, you know, it

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Speaker 2: made me work on that double team. But now guys don't.

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Speaker 3: It's not no really dominant force like that. Guys, I

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Speaker 3: don't get double team like how they used to be.

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Speaker 1: For me. It was I actually felt the same way,

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Speaker 1: and Jerry West said it's a sign of respect. But

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Speaker 1: I had to go to the next level because you're

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Speaker 1: getting doubles. You get in front and back and you

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Speaker 1: fifteen points. They say you need to dominate. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I got four people. Everybody used to say I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear that, Bruh, I got four on me.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that, like what you I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get it. I don't give who on you.

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Speaker 1: You need to give twenty eight thirty. If not, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep getting so so I just had to figure

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Speaker 1: it out. So, but you're right, a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: don't A lot of teams don't get double team right now.

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Speaker 4: I've always heard this where like, what would happen if

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Speaker 4: like if you two were born fifteen years ago, do

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Speaker 4: you think you would play any similarity like to how

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Speaker 4: you how you did play? Or do you think you

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Speaker 4: Like do you think you'd still be who you were?

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Speaker 1: Yes? But I know both of us would be making

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Speaker 1: similar amount of money because what a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. That' making two fifty. I'm gonna tell my

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Speaker 1: agent I want the I want that right there now,

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Speaker 1: two fifty. That's a starting number. Making two. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you twenty seven ten a night, because one, of

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Speaker 1: course they're gonna say, like, for example, Zebo, he gonna

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Speaker 1: shoot the jump up, but I'm gonna run right by him.

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Speaker 1: You better hit it as soon as he shoot. I'm

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Speaker 1: the middle of the lane. Everybody's gonna get three seconds.

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Speaker 1: And I was one of the first big guys that

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Speaker 1: three dribbles out. I've probably have been a lot of

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Speaker 1: slimmer because we'd be running more. But yes, my game

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Speaker 1: will be the same. Only time I was shooting three

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Speaker 1: you know, I try to give him, you know, the

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Speaker 4: Twenty three is a game. Would you be shooting in

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Speaker 4: today's being one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one, maybe two? You get one look one yeah, one,

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Speaker 4: He pulls a lottery ball every game. What do you think, Zebe,

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Speaker 4: You think you'd be the same or you think you'd.

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Speaker 3: Do the same, but more perimeter, you know, because how

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Speaker 3: they want to court open. Like you said, Shack, he's

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Speaker 3: I think because the game has changed and evolved to

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Speaker 4: Dude, look at Memphis Jaron Jackson Junior is like seven

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Speaker 4: I wonder what he would be like.

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Speaker 3: Man, he'd be in in pain. He gonna get back

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Speaker 3: in that pain. Gonna next year gonna be a big

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