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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, how you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good? How are you?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: Not too bad? Not too bad?

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Speaker 2: What's your name? Pal?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Madame is Tony?

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Tony? I'm doing good? How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Oh? You know, like I said, not too bad, just

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Speaker 5: kind of hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, well listen man, uh we can I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you know how any of this stuff works,

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Speaker 1: but if we can, we what do you want? Is

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Speaker 1: there anything in particular you want to talk about today?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. Well actually I have seen a few

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Speaker 5: of your streams. You really do sound different over the

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Speaker 5: phone as opposed to the stream.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well I kind of called me up gone for a second.

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Speaker 1: I I well, everyone kind of sounds the same over

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Speaker 1: the phone, so I guess that could be why. But well,

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Speaker 1: but anyway, man, I mean, what is it that you

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I've been like, uh, like struggling in my

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Speaker 5: like uh love life, you know, said ruality, that kind

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Speaker 5: of that kind of DeLeo.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 5: How so, so I've always been like straight, I've always

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Speaker 5: considered myself straight, I suppose. And you know, I was

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Speaker 5: on uh what you call it hinge and I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I ended up matching with somebody and it turns out

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Speaker 5: you know we got to talking and I did see

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Speaker 5: you know that's cool, that's fine. I don't know what

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Speaker 5: it was, but I just kept talking to her. We

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Speaker 5: you know, went on a couple of dates, and I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I just, uh, it's different. It is not

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Speaker 5: if it is. I don't want say it's like scary

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I guess tell me more about the the kind

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Speaker 1: of like you know, are you are you afraid of something?

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Speaker 2: Are you? Well, how would you describe your struggle with this?

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Speaker 5: Uh, there is a little bit of like m I

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Speaker 5: guess there's some sort of a stigma to it. You know.

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Speaker 5: I grew up, Yeah, I grew up Catholic, kind of

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Speaker 5: became Christian over all, like over later there was people

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Speaker 5: of grew up with that mindset for a while. Sure,

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Speaker 5: I'm twenty six right now. When I was in high school, though,

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Speaker 5: why why would like like it's supposed to be like

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Speaker 5: I keep like running in circles in my head.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry about it? Yeah, okay, yeah, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: right right, Like I know, like like my siblings, my

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Speaker 2: Sure m hm. So you kind of know in your

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Speaker 1: There's there's there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with your being

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Speaker 1: you're having some some dissonance with it.

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Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: Your what's your relationship like with your parents?

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Speaker 5: It's good for the most part. I got loved him, obviously.

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Speaker 5: I do find my mom kind of annoying, which is

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Speaker 5: a terrible thing to say. My dad, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: because I caught him cheating and I didn't talk to

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Speaker 5: So they have him in together since then. So he

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Speaker 5: if he still resents me or something for.

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Speaker 1: That sure, So man, listen, I think I mean this

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Speaker 1: is a this is a tough thing, like kind of

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Speaker 5: Well beyond beyond how they would feel from it, because like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, honestly, like they haven't like certain partner that's

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Speaker 5: Like that's not like the first time that like, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's different, not what I'm used to. But like I

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Speaker 5: I don't know you.

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Speaker 1: You you shut your you say you say you shut

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Speaker 5: Yeah, almost like that's you know, the first time I

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Speaker 5: saw them, like like we were like naked together, right

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Speaker 5: like I'm sorry, I got I know, Like I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying anything super crazy here, but like yeah, in that moment,

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Speaker 5: know what we're walking with down there, you know, it's

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Speaker 5: it's different from what I'm like actually like normally attracted.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm picking up what you're putting down for sure. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I mean look, let me ask you because I mean,

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Speaker 5: That's fair. That's a fair way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let me ask you this then, how

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Speaker 1: big of a deal is sex to you in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Is it important?

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Speaker 7: It is?

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Speaker 5: But it is not like, no, it's not my number

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Speaker 5: one goal, all right, It's like it's a thing that

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Speaker 5: that's not something I'm separated from, you know. I'm more

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Speaker 5: of like passionate, romantic, kind of like sensual person as

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Speaker 2: Like, oh I can.

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Speaker 1: I can tell I hear it in your voice, Tony

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Speaker 1: very passionate. Well, well, listen, Matt, I mean this is

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Speaker 1: the The thing is is that you can't force yourself

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Speaker 1: you almost have to weigh how important that is to

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Speaker 1: you know, and everyone everyone can make their own decision

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Speaker 1: as to how important.

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Speaker 2: That is to you.

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Speaker 5: Right mhm, I mean that doesn't make sense, that's at all.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: Are you what's what's kind of your your the status

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Speaker 2: Are you guys dating? Is there a uh? Is there

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Speaker 5: I've been seeing it like our second date was actually

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Speaker 5: New Year's there's not an official label work, like you know,

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Speaker 5: like we're dating quote unquote, but we're not like like

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Speaker 5: not talking to anybody else, she says, she's not talking

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Speaker 5: anybody else. I do believe us in that regard, but

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Speaker 5: that's that's where it is at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Apparently you told the call screen or you said that

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Speaker 1: you're debating experimenting with her penis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, So, like I mentioned, that's not something

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Speaker 5: that like I'm attracted to do. That's not something that

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Speaker 5: like I'm familiar with, but I do genuinely have feelings

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Speaker 5: for this person. Yeah, and you know, we we have

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Speaker 5: slept together and it's mostly like uh, I mean it's

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Speaker 5: just the basic you know, by the being got a bomb,

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Speaker 5: you know, and uh, I do want to like I

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Speaker 5: you know, like I actually like legitimately care that, like

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Speaker 8: I I was thinking to myself, like I would I

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Speaker 8: something I wouldn't actually normally.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, m hm, Tony, What do you do.

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Speaker 2: For a living. I'm very curious about you as a person.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I'm in the military. I'm about to get out.

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Speaker 5: I want to go back. I went to like, this

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Speaker 5: You know, I love cooking. Family has a restaurant, and

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do on your own, Tony.

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Speaker 5: That's a very good question. That's a very good question.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I do I do like cooking. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was really hoping you were

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Speaker 5: Hey, you know, fat Tonys or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I'd be kind of funny if any inkling of a

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Speaker 2: I want to be the guy that convinces you to

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I I cooking a pizza. You

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Speaker 2: The pizza. You definitely cooking the pizza.

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Speaker 2: You said you like, what do you cook? Tony?

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Speaker 5: I do mostly cook pastas. I make a lot of sauces.

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Speaker 5: I've dabbled in like Italian Mexican. I'm not you know,

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Speaker 2: What happens in Mexican What what?

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Speaker 10: What?

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Speaker 1: What is an Italian Mexican fusion dish?

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Speaker 5: You can take any sauce right, any pasta dish. You know,

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Speaker 5: I've made this weird uh lasagna with like well there's more.

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Speaker 1: All right, hear me out on this chicken parmesan tacos.

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Speaker 5: I've made those.

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Speaker 3: You have, I've made those?

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Speaker 2: What are they like?

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel like the idea of it worked

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Speaker 5: I feel like I can make it work. You know,

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Speaker 5: when people get chicken tomasan, you know, it's not like

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Speaker 5: It's not already pretty cut, it's not shredded.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: You you the name of it, the idea of it,

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Speaker 5: it's like a dream. You know, there's a way to

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Speaker 5: make it work. Being in you know, I've been four

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Speaker 5: experiment and do things again. I signed my life away

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Speaker 5: for a full years. Anybody out there, just real quick,

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Speaker 5: if you're thinking about doing the military, don't do it.

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Speaker 5: And if you do do it, don't join don't join

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Speaker 5: the Navy for the Marine Corps.

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Speaker 10: That's a funny, kase.

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Speaker 2: I've talked.

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Speaker 1: I've said this a bunch of times on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: then I talked to people where it's the opposite. You know,

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Speaker 5: Easiest thing in the world. It's a anger out of

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Speaker 5: ten flas stars.

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Speaker 1: Tony, I really, Tony. I want to see the universe

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Speaker 1: for you so badly. Where you open up your where

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Speaker 1: you just you defy your parents' wishes.

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Speaker 2: You you you.

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Speaker 1: Open your own Mexican Italian fusion restaurant, you date whoever

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Speaker 1: you want. I such a beautiful, beautiful life awaits you.

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Speaker 1: Should you make your own decisions.

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Speaker 2: I do see it.

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Speaker 5: Check it out.

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Speaker 3: Guido Beans, what is it? Guido bes Gueto bees?

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Speaker 5: Don't Guido beans like Guido is like an Italian Guido

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Speaker 5: Wiedo is an Italian name or whatever? The and then

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Speaker 5: beings because beaners, you know what I mean? You know

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Speaker 5: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I don't know absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I am all right.

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Speaker 2: I'll take your word for.

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Speaker 1: It, Tony, Is there anything else you want to say

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Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 5: I'man just to reiterate, if you're going to join the military,

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Speaker 2: Good to know.

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Speaker 1: I did watch after this they're going to make me

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Speaker 1: read a fucking ad for the US military or something

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Speaker 3: I swear to God, I wouldn't doubt it.

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Speaker 5: All right, take care, Tony, Hey, you as well appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of one more veal burrito. Guido Beans,

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Speaker 2: I'm there, Hi there.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hi?

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 4: My name is Daisy Joe.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Daisy Joe. How are you?

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Speaker 4: Is this wild?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 4: Why do you sound so?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that question. Really, I don't.

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Speaker 1: If I had an answer for you, I would tell you.

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Speaker 2: But I don't have an answer.

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I just said, you're like my mom.

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Speaker 2: What's your your Daisy Joe, what's going on, Daisy Joe?

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Speaker 2: How's life?

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Speaker 4: Life?

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Speaker 5: It exists?

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Speaker 4: We're here.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I have a story to tell you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you have a story to tell me. What's the story?

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Speaker 4: So, but I was like like eighteen or nineteen, I

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you were you were your parents were kind

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Speaker 2: It wasn't really your decision.

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Speaker 4: No, they forced me to go to school. I me

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Speaker 4: dropping out was like a whoa coat thing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty low like a right, Okay, So

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm liking the hardest part of my life. Right.

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Speaker 4: It's not. But I think that because I'm eighteen and

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Speaker 1: you hit a naked man, and so yet hit him.

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00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: I came really really close.

444
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so you thought you hit him, so you pulled

445
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: over to go talk to him.

446
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna cuts him out, but then I

447
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 4: start filing bad form.

448
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: Okay, and you let him ride so so so you

449
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: almost hit this guy, and then you stopped and went

450
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: to get out of your car just to yell at

451
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: this guy for being in the middle of the street.

452
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: And then you see that he's fully like.

453
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: All right, now, yeah, shorts on, they're just hanging off

454
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: his body. He's got nothing, but like.

455
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, So then you let

456
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: him ride on the top of your car.

457
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Because I haven't watched enough true crime ship yet,

458
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 4: I guess. Okay, it doesn't just wild doesn't stop there.

459
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 4: I sang hymnals to him too.

460
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: What is the climax of this story? How does this end?

461
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: So I dropped him off at this gas station in

462
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 4: the middle of nowhere, Arkansas, and I'm like, you need

463
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 4: to stay here because somebody in the morning, like you

464
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: can go to like a police station. Maybe you could,

465
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: you know, find some humanitarian resources, a shelter, your wife.

466
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 6: I don't know.

467
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 4: So I'm driving off and there's a semi coming and

468
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 4: as I'm driving away, he's like crying on the steps

469
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: and then I see him stand up as the semis

470
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 4: coming and he runs out in front of it, and

471
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: like I didn't actually see him go splat, but I

472
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: heard the like agonizing scream, and then I saw the

473
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 4: semi coming, and then I floored it. I was going

474
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: like one hundred and twenty because I didn't want to

475
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: see it happen. I was just like, you know, I

476
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: know what too plus two is.

477
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: You know, dude, what wait, okay, that's all right.

478
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: So so you dropped this guy off at a gas station.

479
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: He's a complete stranger, he's crying, he's basically naked, and

480
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: then you drop him off and you're like, look, man,

481
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: I you know, I I don't know you. I can't

482
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: really help you that further, but like stay here and

483
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, wait until the morning you can find someone

484
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: to help you.

485
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: And then you drive away. And then you as.

486
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: You're driving away, you see him run and jump in

487
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: front of a semi truck and get hit.

488
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I looked at that very last second it

489
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: could have been like super traumatizing, but it wasn't. I

490
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: was looking at the road and I was flooring it.

491
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: So okay, it was too disgusting, right.

492
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: Thing, How what do you what do you make of

493
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: this situation? Here, How did this affect you in any

494
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: way or what? What do you what's your observation here?

495
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 4: I do too dam much with people. I do too

496
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: damn much. That's how I get all much rumble. I

497
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 4: just do too damn much for people that Okay, I

498
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: don't even I don't know I need to be doing that,

499
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: you know?

500
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay?

501
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 4: What do you him on the size of round?

502
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: Sure?

503
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

504
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure? What do you?

505
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like you what makes you feel

506
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: like you do too much for people?

507
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: Because that could have gone like so bad. He could

508
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: have killed me, bro, he could have actually murdered me

509
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: mm hmm, but he didn't. He did like he did,

510
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 4: he murdered himself. He did the best case scenario almost.

511
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the best case scenario, but

512
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: it is what happened.

513
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: If somebody was gonna die, the best case scenario.

514
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So how old are you now?

515
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: Huh?

516
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: I said? How old? Yeah? All right?

517
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: So this happened four years ago? Yeah, all right, and

518
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: you felt as though the lesson you learned from it

519
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: was that you do too damn much for people. That's right,

520
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: and contemporarily, yes, put on yours before you help others,

521
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: and you know, there's.

522
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: A lot in that philosophy.

523
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: So today, you know, this having happened four years ago,

524
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: do you still feel as though you do too much

525
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: for people?

526
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: No? Okay, I think I stopped doing that. Okay, I

527
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: think I do other stupid shit now, but I don't

528
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: do that.

529
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Okay. What made you want to stop doing too much

530
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: for people?

531
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: Because instead of like, like it's just it's honestly, I

532
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: don't know why, maybe kind of think like it's really

533
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: not that rewarding because like I was the last person

534
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 4: that was ever kind to this man, you know, like

535
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: I sang to him, I gave him a ride, I

536
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: gave him potato chips and waters, and then none of

537
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: that mattered, you know, he still jumped in front of

538
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: a fucking truck. Like, it doesn't feel that good to

539
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: just be doing shit for people when you don't have

540
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: your own ship figured it out, you know.

541
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: Hmmm, It's an interesting way to think about it. So yeah, okay,

542
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: So you were telling me that at that time, you

543
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: were having to drop out of school even though you

544
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: wanted to go to school, and you didn't feel as

545
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: though you had your your life together.

546
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: Correct.

547
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh yeah, straight, out of high school.

548
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: So all right, and so you helped out this guy

549
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: by letting him ride on top of your car and

550
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: singing him lullabies and getting him to a place where

551
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: he could at least get some some you know, somewhere

552
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: somewhere better than the middle of the street.

553
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and it's like an southern Arkansas too, so

554
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: it was like field.

555
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

556
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: So so, so stick with you for a second. And

557
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: you now feel as though you need to work on

558
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: figuring out your own life before you help other people. Yeah, okay,

559
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you have yourself? And look,

560
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: nobody ever has themselves fully together? But do you feel

561
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: as though you're personally at a better place now than

562
00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: you were then?

563
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Yeah, oh my god.

564
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah okay, And do you feel as though you

565
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 7: have any desire to help people, like, let's say, let's

566
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 7: say that's something like that happened to you, now, would

567
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 7: you not have helped that guy?

568
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: If that happened now.

569
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 4: I probably honestly would have called the police station, And

570
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: that's what would have been me helping, or like something

571
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: like that, you know, sure, or if there's like a

572
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: shelter nearby or something some kind of something not.

573
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 9: Me, Okay, you know, I'm like, I mean, I get it.

574
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: I understand. You know.

575
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Look, you're an eighteen year old girl and this guy's,

576
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, a random guy on the side of the road.

577
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: I understand your your apprehensions in.

578
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: This, Like I pretend that I don't. Yeah, I don't know.

579
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: I don't know to what degree you're obligated to to

580
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: help other people, especially if you feel as though you

581
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: might be at risk. Yeah, you know, I'll do the

582
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: best you can, right, How do you feel like you're

583
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: gonna approach.

584
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: The world's moving forward?

585
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel a desire to help people

586
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: or do you sort of feel like it's better for

587
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: you to just completely focus on yourself.

588
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: I feel like there's ways you can help people without

589
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: like getting balls deep in it, you know.

590
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: Sure, Like.

591
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I don't pick up I used

592
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: to pick up people, like like even before that, I

593
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: like got somebody with me like a knife or something.

594
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: I like pick people up on the side of the

595
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: road all the time, like whatever. Like that's so which

596
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: that's like such an obvious it's like a landed ass example.

597
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 5: But like.

598
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I would I do like helping

599
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: people like I I wanna after the season of my

600
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 4: job and I'm gonna go to nursing school. That's a good,

601
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: healthy way.

602
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: To help people, I think. I think.

603
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: So that's a that's a bit more of a controlled

604
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: environment for helping people than the side of the road

605
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: in Arkansas.

606
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: True, you are correct.

607
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmm.

608
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that you have a sort of future

609
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: plan for you to, uh, you know, help other people

610
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: in a more control of the way. You bring up

611
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: an interesting, an interesting kind of moral delima that I'll

612
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: have to think about. Uh, Daisy, there's anything else you

613
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before

614
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: we go.

615
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 4: Don't pick up naked ass dudes on the side road

616
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: and put your own mask on before you try to

617
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: help other people, or you'll die or something. Or you

618
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: might not die, you might see somebody else die, and

619
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: that's weird.

620
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling, Daisy Joe.

621
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: You're welcome anytime.

622
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 10: Hi.

623
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: Bye. I just have to say the call screener wrote

624
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: down for her. H Daisy Joe has a story about

625
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: seeing a guy commit suicide. Says it's funny and light.

626
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: I guess that was I don't know.

627
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know. I like,

628
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: I get it.

629
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I don't get it. I'm not

630
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: gonna say I don't get it. There there is you.

631
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: When you pick up a naked man from the street,

632
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: you're running, you're running into you're you're not you're there's

633
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: some risk there. Undeniably, you can't deny that risk. But

634
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: is it worth the risk to help another person?

635
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

636
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't have an opinion on that, but we'll we'll,

637
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens to me next time I'm put

638
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: in a situation like that. Hi, Hello, how are you.

639
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 5: Man?

640
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 10: I'm good lyle how are you?

641
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there.

642
00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be conscious of the fact that it

643
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: I exist on the earth right now.

644
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 5: That's beautiful.

645
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 10: I'm working on the same thing, and mostly it's from

646
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 10: listening to your show and trying to be more open

647
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 10: and honest about my feelings and my situation with myself

648
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 10: and the people around me. It's huge for me to

649
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 10: start that.

650
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: That's a lot, that's that's spiritual.

651
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 10: I would agree. I mean, it's been a I've been

652
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 10: listening to your show for like, I don't know, probably

653
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 10: two years or so now, and you know, I don't

654
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 10: I hadn't really done much podcast listening before that, and

655
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 10: now I listen to multiple podcasts like THEO Vonn's Weekend

656
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 10: is Great and some other ones that I really enjoy,

657
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 10: but yours really helped with that personal you know, people

658
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 10: really open up on this show, you know, and it's

659
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 10: helped me open up to myself and to my family

660
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 10: and to my co workers about things that before I

661
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 10: would just not communicate about.

662
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: That's so fascinating to me, man, because I was thinking

663
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: about this the other day.

664
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Speaker 2: I I really.

665
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Speaker 1: You know, when I started my whole adventure on the internet,

666
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Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to be a comedian and I

667
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: did that for a long time, and I wanted to

668
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: make things that were just like expressly funny. And now

669
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: I've like accidentally created fucking Gecko Oprah for better or worse,

670
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I guess I'm I'm glad to

671
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: hear that it's helped you out in what seems to

672
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: be a pretty profound way.

673
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: What it has helped.

674
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Speaker 10: It's also been negative because it's helped It's brought out

675
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 10: a lot of like you know, when you're open and

676
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 10: honest with yourself. That can be you know, very intense

677
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 10: and very dark at times. To just like take your

678
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 10: situation as it is and try and be objective and

679
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 10: you know, really tell yourself what's going on. Yes, I've

680
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 10: been struggling with that too, but it's good and bad

681
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 10: because then you can try and rise above and grow

682
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 10: from the things that are possible to grow from.

683
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Man, you should be the therapy gecko.

684
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 10: Oh man, Man, I love your show. I love all

685
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 10: the guests you bring on, and you know, I definitely

686
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 10: would love to like do something like like that, but

687
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 10: I'm so busy.

688
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Listen, listen enough about enough about me. I want to

689
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: I want to know about you, Jordan. You're telling me

690
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff out here, all right. So, well,

691
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. Give me a minute.

692
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: So you.

693
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: Said you had to. You said you faced yourself and

694
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: that was negative. How is it negative?

695
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 7: Uh?

696
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 10: Well, I'm about to turn thirty, and you know, there

697
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 10: are certain aspects of my life that I thought I

698
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 10: would either have a not accomplished but kind of have

699
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 10: a roadmap to success for by the time I was thirty.

700
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 10: That some of those things I haven't even started. And

701
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 10: some things, you know, I'm you know, I'm working hard

702
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 10: and doing my thing, but you know, talking about like

703
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 10: retirement and trying to build like a network of different

704
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 10: means of income because one single income really just does

705
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 10: not fucking do it anymore. So you have to try

706
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 10: and increase, you know, not just your one revenue stream and.

707
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: Get a raise.

708
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 10: But you need a side hustle. Everybody needs a fucking

709
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 10: side hustle these days to survive.

710
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: So you're you're facing yourself and you're looking at your

711
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: situation and you feel as though as though, what, like

712
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: you haven't accomplished to things you hope you would accomplish

713
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: by now, or you haven't set yourself up for success

714
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: in the way you hope you would.

715
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, not that not accomplishments. It's more of like setting

716
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 10: myself up for success. Like, you know, there's certain situations

717
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 10: that I deal with on a day to day basis

718
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 10: that you know, I feel like I shouldn't have to.

719
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 10: Not that I'm better than or that you know, we

720
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 10: just you know, I just I put in, you know,

721
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 10: into my career a lot, and I make really good

722
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 10: food and I make I make good money, but things

723
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 10: are just so much more expensive and harder to attain

724
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 10: in this day and age, you know, than they were

725
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 10: even just a couple of years ago, so that I

726
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 10: haven't gotten raises you know, in in you know, going

727
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 10: with the the rise of cost of living, so it's

728
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 10: just difficult just to hang on to the same exact

729
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 10: standard of living, you know.

730
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the economy this is bad.

731
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Speaker 1: That's my only that's my only announce That's the my

732
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: complete and utter analysis of the economy, because I have

733
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: no idea how the world works. But yes, no, it

734
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: is fucked and things are getting a lot more expensive.

735
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Speaker 10: And smarter people than us can tell us why we

736
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 10: can just say economy bad?

737
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, for sure. All right, So.

738
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Speaker 1: I mean tell me, you're it sounds like you're in

739
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: this very lifey, spiritually space and you know you've been

740
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: struggling with things not being as sufficient as you thought

741
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: they were. What are some of the positives that you've been.

742
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 10: I have a beautiful family, and you know, I have

743
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 10: grown so much over the past few years in my

744
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 10: skill sets, and you know, I'm a chef and I've

745
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 10: learned so many different techniques over the past few years,

746
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 10: and I really have grown in the regional cuisines that

747
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 10: I know and the different ingredients that I know off

748
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 10: the top of my head. You know, I'm able to

749
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 10: put different dishes together based on different ingredients I've already tasted,

750
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 10: and I can do that in my mind as opposed

751
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 10: to not knowing how you know different things taste and

752
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 10: kind of having like question marks, if that makes sense,

753
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 10: you can kind of put the pieces together because you

754
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 10: have more of a palette and it you know, it's

755
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 10: that's been a huge ride for me over the past

756
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 10: few years, just that accumulation of knowledge what kinds of

757
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 10: things are good and bad?

758
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: You do you work at like a like a restaurant

759
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: of some kind or a food.

760
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 10: Truck or Yeah, I run two different restaurants. I wish

761
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 10: I ran a lemonade stand. Un run two different restaurant kitchens,

762
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 10: one of them pretty laid back, but one of them

763
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 10: pretty busy. Uh, it's it's just managing people. Yeah, Basically,

764
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 10: kitchen workers are hard workers and you know, it's the

765
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 10: backbone of society. But they don't make that much money.

766
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 10: So like I people that I can't pay that high

767
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 10: of a wage, so I lose quality people constantly to

768
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 10: new opportunities. So it's just a revolving door of people

769
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 10: that you train and leave, and train and leave, and

770
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 10: it's just how it is, though you get used to it.

771
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 10: It's crazy.

772
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: You said you wanted to tell you said specifically on

773
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: this thing that you wanted to talk about what you

774
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: deal with on a day to day basis. Was there

775
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: anything in particular that you had in mind.

776
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. You know, if you go out to a restaurant,

777
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 10: and you know, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to anybody,

778
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 10: but if you're at a restaurant and you're frustrated with

779
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 10: the staff, keep it to yourself. You know, we're already

780
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 10: doing the best that we can. Generally, not everyone is,

781
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 10: but most of us are doing the best that we can,

782
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 10: and we have minimal labor that we're allowed to use.

783
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 10: You know, you're like, oh, well, why aren't there enough

784
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 10: people we'll here? Well, it's because my boss said, I

785
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 10: can only have this much labor on my clock. Ever,

786
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, you know, you can't. Don't get mad at me, please,

787
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 10: you know, my my boss just tell me what to

788
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 10: do and we all do the best that we can.

789
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 10: And if you want to eat food, that you didn't cook.

790
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 10: You got to wait and you have to be humble,

791
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 10: or you've got to go home and cook your own food.

792
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 10: You know.

793
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, that's uh, I don't know.

794
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: That's just a mess. That's it's getting getting food.

795
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: I will say, the way that we get food nowadays

796
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: is always at least faster than how we got food before.

797
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: We had to actually kill chickens ourselves and extrapolate their

798
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: their organs and uh, you know, pray to God to

799
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: smite them with thunder to cook it. And now you

800
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: just kind of yell at a guy and he brings

801
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: you macerella sticks. So I think that this system we

802
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: have right now, you know, even though some people think

803
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: it's insufficient, I think it's pretty better than what we

804
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: had before, even though the economy. Actually, I'm gonna I

805
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: was gonna say, even though the economy is worse now

806
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: than it was then. I don't know anything about history

807
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: or the universe, but it's probably better than it was

808
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 1: back when we were hunting things.

809
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: There wasn't even money a.

810
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 10: Man. Other than that, I would like to tell you

811
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 10: know a story about a dishwasher that I had.

812
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, I go.

813
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 8: Light on.

814
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 10: I worked downtown. I had a really cool dishwasher and

815
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 10: he was most definitely a crackhead, but he was a

816
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 10: great guy. He just happened to smoke crack and come

817
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 10: to work basically every day. But he would come to

818
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 10: work every day in a three piece suit, uh you know,

819
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 10: dress pants, button up shirt and a tie sometimes the best.

820
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 10: And he would wash dishes in this super busy downtown

821
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 10: restaurant and crush it every day. And he was amazing

822
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 10: other than the fact that he would leave and do

823
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 10: some drugs and then come back to work, but he

824
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 10: would do this art. And last time I saw him,

825
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 10: he was downtown and he saw he was selling his

826
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 10: art on the street and he was making money and freedom.

827
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 10: If you're out there, keep doing your thing.

828
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: Wow, it sounds like crack is the best thing that

829
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: ever happened to that guy and empowered him to do

830
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: all these things.

831
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 10: I sure hope. So I hope he keeps going on,

832
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 10: maybe not doing the crack, but hopefully doing his art.

833
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: Look, here's the thing. It's probably not the suit.

834
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: Probably it's probably not the crack that gets him through

835
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: the day, but.

836
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: It's the one variable I can think of.

837
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 10: Would we all got to have something, man, I wouldn't.

838
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 10: I'm born and raised in Memphis. I've seen the spiral

839
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 10: of the drug epidemic personally. I went to public school, man,

840
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 10: people started doing cracking, like fucking middle school, dude. I

841
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 10: had a pregnant girl in my sixth grade class, Like

842
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 10: this is you know, this is real life. You know,

843
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 10: crack is terrible. Don't do crack, don't do heroin love

844
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 10: your friends, tell them to stop if they're doing crazy shit.

845
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: I hope that that's on the menu of your restaurant,

846
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: you know how they have like the about section.

847
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: You should put that on that which part.

848
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 10: Don't do crack?

849
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: I already forgot it. Don't do crack. That's good.

850
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 5: We'll listen to it maybe later.

851
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 10: Love you all.

852
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Thanks Jordan, take Caren.

853
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 10: But I really do appreciate you. Thank you so much

854
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 10: for everything to man. Keep doing it as long as

855
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 10: it fulfills you.

856
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: By I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. Thank you, Jordan.

857
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

858
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 10: Man.

859
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know. I had a friend

860
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: who smoked crack once and he said it was pretty good,

861
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: So you know, take that for whatever you will.

862
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, how are you.

863
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: Good?

864
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 5: How are you doing.

865
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing Okay, I'm a gecko on the computer. How's

866
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: life going.

867
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 6: It's uh, it's teetering right now, my friend teetering.

868
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Why Why is it petering?

869
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: Well, just uh, it just feels like my world kind

870
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 6: of crushing around me, simply because I'm in a dilemma

871
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 6: where I run the family business and my pops is

872
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 6: getting old and he's getting ready to retire and he's

873
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 6: leaning towards our not leaning towards, but he's planning on

874
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: giving this to me, and I'm just not feeling it,

875
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 6: not anymore. Have done that for too long, and the

876
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 6: only problem with me leaving is that if I leave,

877
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 6: the door is closed, and eventually I school over my bent.

878
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 5: So I don't know what to do.

879
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're telling me that your father has this

880
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: repair shop. He is retiring and either you take over

881
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: the business or the business closes.

882
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 6: Essentially, I'm going.

883
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: To give you my opinion immediately.

884
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: It sounds like this is totally his problem, dude, This

885
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: is not your problem at all. Uh, this is your

886
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: dad's business. This is this is your dad's Let mean,

887
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: I'll hear you out.

888
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: What are we gonna say?

889
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: We like?

890
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 6: So the only problem is is that I'm gonna be

891
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 6: leaving this to go do 'otentially the same thing, but

892
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna get paid more.

893
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

894
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 6: That's that's my main like my main guilt, I guess,

895
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 6: because like some of these thoughts, they're literally you can,

896
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 6: like less than a mile away from here. I would

897
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 6: physically pass by this location, you know, and I don't know.

898
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 6: It's kind of tough to I don't know, to.

899
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: Think about, Kevin.

900
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: You're your own person, okay, you don't. You don't owe

901
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: anything to your dad. Your dad's business is his responsibility.

902
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: So you know, you have your own life and you

903
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: make your own decisions that are the best for you,

904
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: not just you know, to to service your parents. Uh

905
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: tell me about your dad's reaction to all this?

906
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: What is he doing? Is he pressuring you any any

907
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: which way?

908
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 6: Well, so, like essentially, like you know, it's been I

909
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 6: don't working here since you know, I was essentially nine

910
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 6: years old, you know, just helping around or whatever. So

911
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 6: it's always been the idea. He's always put it into

912
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 6: my mind that this was going to be mine. The

913
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 6: only problem is now that I see once I get

914
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 6: older and stuff is like his business mentality, this isn't there.

915
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 6: So when I see that, you know, and I see

916
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 6: like other shops in the same field, you know, doing

917
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 6: these crazy things and advancing and everything, and I feel

918
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 6: like we're constant. I told him that, and he kind

919
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 6: of blew up at me, because, like I said, it's

920
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 6: a it's a horrible reality. But the reality is is

921
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 6: that if I leave, that's it. So he kind of

922
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 6: blew up at me and essentially kind of tried guilt

923
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 6: to me into it by telling me that. But I'm

924
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 6: I mean the way he treats me, in the way

925
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 6: kind of how it goes, you know, just I could

926
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 6: be working a lot less and getting paid at least

927
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 6: a little bit more or a lot more, depending on what.

928
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 5: Specifically or where I specifically choose to build.

929
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: Okay, so you told your father that, I'm sorry, did

930
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: you say that your dad has business practices that you

931
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: don't like.

932
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 6: I'm not business practices he just doesn't have. He I mean, like,

933
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 6: he's a smart man. This is his first business that

934
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 6: he's had. It's just that I feel like he's gotten

935
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 6: to the point where he got bored of the business

936
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 6: and he's no longer trying to put more money into it.

937
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 6: It's just whatever comes out of it comes out of it.

938
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 5: And that's it.

939
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 6: Which in my mind, you know, you have to put

940
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 6: money in. You have to spend money to make money.

941
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 6: You can't just be out of constant.

942
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 5: Just like anything else.

943
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 6: You have to put the effort in to get something out.

944
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean Kevin, what I said. You know,

945
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: it's still stands firm. Your dad not having a plan

946
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: for you know, his business opening or failing.

947
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's his problem.

948
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 7: You know.

949
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: It says you're twenty one years old, you're an adult,

950
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: You're your own person. You can still love your father,

951
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: you could still have a great relationship with your father,

952
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: but your father can't dictate what you do with your

953
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: life and the decisions that.

954
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: You make you and you can't let them.

955
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: Do that at this point, right.

956
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 6: I mean, like that's what I've been thinking too. And

957
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 6: you know, like my tool guys that come, because I

958
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 6: have my tool bodies that come, and like my snap

959
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: On and my mat Co and my Cornwall, they all

960
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 6: come and I have had the same conversation with them

961
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 6: just because they see all the same people in my field.

962
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 6: So maybe they have like job openings or somebody looking

963
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 6: for a job, and I talked to them and they

964
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 6: all tell me the same thing. But it just feels

965
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 6: like something in my heart or like something is just

966
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 6: like stopping me. I know, like mentally, I know that

967
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 6: I should I shouldn't like advance myself, I should be

968
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 6: better for myself. Well, but I don't know what's stopping me.

969
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

970
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 7: Have you.

971
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone against your father? Have you ever

972
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: entered into a conflict with him or disagreed with him?

973
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Or I guess I don't want to. I don't want

974
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: to say stood up to him because that seems a

975
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: little too dramatic.

976
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, Yeah.

977
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 6: I get you, and and to be honest with you,

978
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 6: like not really no, I don't know, just just how

979
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 6: my family grew up, you know, just what my dad says.

980
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 6: My dad says essentially just something I don't know. It's

981
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 6: not like he beat me or anything. It's not like

982
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 6: I was abused like torn like just it's just something

983
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 6: like it's something that's a part of me. What my

984
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 6: boy says, what my dad says, whether I like it

985
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 6: or not.

986
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, Listen while you're growing up.

987
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: You know, when you're sixteen, you know, before you're eighteen,

988
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: and and you know any time after the age of

989
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: eighteen where you find yourself financially dependent upon him. You know, yeah,

990
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: that's true. You know he's he's your dad, he's that's

991
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: the rules, whatever. But this is not the case anymore.

992
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: You're twenty one years old. You have your own skills,

993
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: you make your own money, you're your own person. And

994
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you might be having this

995
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: block because you've always lived by the philosophy that you know,

996
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: what Dad says goes. But now you are in a

997
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: position where you have transcended that you're an adult, you

998
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: can make your own decisions. And now I see it

999
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to have a rebirthing of your relationship

1000
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: with your dad that is based less upon you know,

1001
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: something authoritative or businessy or anything like that, and based

1002
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: solely upon he's your father and you love him, and

1003
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: that's that's the foundation of your relationship more so than uh,

1004
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, anyone having control over over anyone else.

1005
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 6: Right, right, I mean, but I guess my other problem

1006
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 6: is my my my only other problement is recently because

1007
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 6: I told him this like maybe three four days ago,

1008
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 6: like when I finally growed up the courage to talk

1009
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 6: to him, he kind of started giving me the cold shoulder.

1010
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 6: So I can only imagine if I really left you,

1011
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,479
Speaker 6: see what I mean. That's that's my my other other thing.

1012
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: About well, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, he's your dad needs to

1013
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: grow up.

1014
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say.

1015
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's given you the cold shoulder, if

1016
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: he's being you know, a baby about it, uh, you know,

1017
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: at a certain point, and it's it's it's it's I

1018
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: know it's hard because you don't want your dad to

1019
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: ignore you.

1020
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: But you can't.

1021
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: You can't bend to that. I mean, that's fucked up

1022
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: that he's giving you the cold shoulder. That that's not right,

1023
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: and you you don't. You can't be out here rewarding

1024
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: that kind of behavior bye by giving into it and

1025
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: and eventually eventually years will go by, your dad will

1026
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: get over it, you know, but you you need to

1027
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: be okay with him giving you the cold shoulder.

1028
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I.

1029
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 6: Knew, I knew this is this is essentially what everybody

1030
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 6: like everybody, it's a universe.

1031
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 5: You know.

1032
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 6: I gotta do what I gotta do.

1033
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Well, Kevin.

1034
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, man, and you know, congratulations to

1035
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: you for for finally taking this uh uh big step

1036
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: toward you know, becoming your own person. I think it's important,

1037
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: it's it's important you do this now because you need

1038
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: to free yourself from your father so that you can

1039
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: move on with you know, the growth in your life.

1040
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: And I know it's a tough thing to do, so

1041
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: i'm I'm I'm excited for you that you're.

1042
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Gonna do it.

1043
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you very much.

1044
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 5: You know that means a lot.

1045
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 6: I try to call you to the comminations will happen?

1046
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: Kevin? Is the anything else you want to say to

1047
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: the people the computer before we go?

1048
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, if everybody can look in their closets, in their attics,

1049
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 6: in their mom's houses or guitar Hero guitars and dongleswe

1050
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 6: you be having a very hard time trying to play

1051
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 6: some goddamn guitar hero.

1052
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 5: So you got to do me that favor. That'd be great.

1053
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: If anyone can find this man an any guitar Hero

1055
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: or rock band instruments, please let us know so we

1056
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: can get into him.

1057
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, post him online please and and don't charge

1058
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 6: one hundred fifty bucks. All right, that's kind of ridiculous.

1059
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to play rock down.

1060
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to side a business.

1061
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling Kevin.

1062
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1063
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: That's a tough situation, having to stand up to your parents.

1064
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad that the people around kay when he said,

1065
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: this is what everyone's been telling me. I'm glad that

1066
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: people around him have been telling him this true. And

1067
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: I think people know at this point, you know, it

1068
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: sucks to hear that his dad is being a baby

1069
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: about it. And that's fucking really hard because because I

1070
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: think from a it's interesting from our perspective, From the

1071
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: outsider perspective, this feels like, this feels very easy. This

1072
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: feels like the the notion of Okay, my father doesn't

1073
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: control me comes very easy when you're looking at it

1074
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: from an outside perspective. But I'm trying to I'm really

1075
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: thinking about it from Kevin's position, where you know, he's

1076
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: twenty one years old, so for twenty one years, his

1077
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: brain has been fully conditioned that what his father says

1078
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: goes and now he you know, it's not as easy

1079
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: for me as you know, for me to say, oh, well,

1080
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: your dad hasn't known you. It's like, great, it's easy

1081
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: to say, but the reality is is this guy's got

1082
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: to now be tasked with breaking twenty one years of

1083
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: conditioning in order to move forward, which is tough.

1084
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: I think he'll do it. I don't know.

1085
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: I never know if people are gonna actually do any

1086
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: of these things, but I hope he does, and good

1087
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: luck to him.

1088
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 5: Everything again goes on the line, taking your phone calls

1089
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 5: every nine. Everything goes to his eye. He's teaching you

1090
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 5: cloud in the metery of life, but he's not an expert.