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Speaker 1: Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for Secret Invasion episode six,

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Speaker 1: the series finale, and you're not gonna want to be spoiled.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason and I'm Rosie Night, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to xt Revision, the Crooked Media podcast where we dive

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Speaker 1: deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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Speaker 2: In this episode, in the airlock, we're digging into Secret

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Speaker 2: Invasion episode six. We made it, guys, can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: We've reached the finale. The finale is here. The finale

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Speaker 2: is over, so we're gonna talk about it. We have endured,

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Speaker 2: we have endured, and we have survived. And in nerd

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Speaker 2: out a theory on the possible MCU connections spinning out

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Speaker 2: of Secret Invasion.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next Secret Invasion episode six. We're stepping out

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Speaker 1: of the airlock for the finale of Secret Invasion episode

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Speaker 1: six home directed by Ali Salim, written by Kyle Bradstreet

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Speaker 1: and Brian Tucker, and we open with Vara leaving the shootout.

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Speaker 1: I think from the episode, there's scroll blood all over

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Speaker 1: the place, and she's got her little gun toning backpack

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Speaker 1: and she's leaving and she gets a call from her

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Speaker 1: legal husband, Nick Fury Nicolas. He says, hey, I'm going

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Speaker 1: away shortly.

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Speaker 3: Why like this every time?

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Speaker 1: Apparently he never calls her, That's why she answered the phone.

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Speaker 1: She's like, this must be serious.

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Speaker 3: She's like, oh, he guess he's getting too space again.

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Speaker 1: Also, did they unintentionally reference I will survive? Is this

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Speaker 1: like all an unintentional reference to the lyrics if I

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Speaker 1: will survive? Anyway? So he says, yes, I'm going to space,

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Speaker 1: and Vera's like, no, you should, you should stick around,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, no, okay. At New scroll Os, a

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Speaker 4: To the gate.

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Speaker 1: The guards are like stop the guards who are Scrolls

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Speaker 1: who are disguised as humans, as Russians. This car doesn't stop,

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Speaker 1: so they open fire on it. They just perforate this car,

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Speaker 1: and then they walk up to it. There's no one

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Speaker 1: are dead. Who is it? It's Nick Fury, back on

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Speaker 1: his I'm a super spy ship and I'm not washed anymore.

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Speaker 1: He's ready.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to trick them with the old empty car trick,

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Speaker 2: and then cut to the credits.

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Speaker 3: After that shocking reveal.

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Speaker 1: At President Ritson's bedside, where again somebody is the shocking

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Speaker 1: paucity of anybody plays around the American president.

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Speaker 2: You will never hit me asking for the Secret Service

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Speaker 2: to be in attendance, but in this case, where is

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Speaker 2: the secret Cabinet?

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Speaker 3: Like it feels like this is why for his children,

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Speaker 3: I or anyone in it at.

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Speaker 1: Least be video linked to like then the Joint Chiefs

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Speaker 1: or something. Because Scroti is here and he's just like like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I know you're going through it right now. You're probably

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Speaker 1: dealing with like a concussion extress disorder shock of like

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Speaker 1: almost dying. But you need to attack Russia and you

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Speaker 1: need to attack this Russian base where the scrolls are

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Speaker 1: and need to do it now.

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Speaker 3: Also, wasn't that the plot of the last episode?

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Speaker 2: Like this seems like it's slightly reductive, but also I

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Speaker 1: He's on the fence about it. It's like, on the

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Speaker 1: don't know. It kind of means World War three. Some

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Speaker 1: admiral is like, I don't know, maybe we should just

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Speaker 3: You don't need to do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm his number one most trusted advisor.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only was in the Avengers.

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Speaker 2: His aunt didn't show up when he got shot and

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Speaker 2: then they assassinate him. There hasn't been any kind of

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Speaker 1: Let me just talk about my roady bonafides iron Man

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Speaker 1: two and three? Uh, how to me heard of it?

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Speaker 1: How about that big fight at the at the German

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Speaker 2: And the MCU president that we've never seen before. Of course,

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Speaker 1: So let's snook Russia. Then he's like, and just to

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Speaker 1: Scrodi then hands the President a speech that he's written himself.

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Speaker 3: What is going on here? Did he drug the president

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Speaker 2: Girls have like a hypnotic tendency that they can use here.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the President's is just going along with it.

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Speaker 1: We should ask our founders if you can just walk

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Speaker 3: You read this?

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Speaker 2: You just cameras, it's gonna be all over the world, sir.

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Speaker 2: I made sure it had lots of good rhymes.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Fury is making his way into the new scroll

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Speaker 1: Os base and he's finding uh, just scrolls dead everywhere

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Speaker 1: for reasons that we're not sure about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is this scrolls from gravits?

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Speaker 3: Little fight?

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Speaker 2: Also, this will be a recurring theme in this episode conversation,

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Speaker 2: but like, what is the How can Fury not be

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Speaker 1: Taking massive doses and he's like coffee.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, He's like, oh yeah, but that's like that

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions about the radiation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Where's Gravic?

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Speaker 1: Gravic is over by his super scroll machine. That's where

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Speaker 1: Gravic is like, hey, you just came here by yourself,

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Speaker 1: Like? What up? And Gravic talks about his human form.

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Speaker 1: He's like, this is the you never asked me about

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Speaker 2: This is like this moment because Kings of Benadeera is

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Speaker 2: Fury essentially used They're using a lot of political analogies

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of real life and analogus here that

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Speaker 3: Fury asked him to kill him.

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting, And it's literally like thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: He says something really interesting, which is you pimped us,

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Speaker 2: And he has passed so many he sells this he

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Speaker 1: Everybody is acting their ass off in this.

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Speaker 2: They know is the finale, even if we might not

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Speaker 1: They give me I'm gonna I'm gonna kill you, Nick Fury,

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Speaker 1: And also look at this, and then he takes out

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Speaker 5: It's not just the Avengers, every Power, every all three

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Speaker 3: They are included in the tiny harvesting. I don't know

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Speaker 1: That's apparently with a little like a c tic with

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Speaker 2: And then they put it all in the and they

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Speaker 1: So Fury is like, here's my deal. You take this

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Speaker 1: you wanted this, Now get out of here. Call the

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Speaker 1: attacks of vac here. While this is going on, someone

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Speaker 1: It's just like the darts cut out of shadows and

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a city right where where

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Speaker 2: there's always where a politician comes to your city, It happens.

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Speaker 2: Happened in Law Beach when I lived at They shut

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Speaker 2: let alone if the president was an attempted assassinations. Some

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Speaker 2: mysterious person is just out here shooting some darts like

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Speaker 2: they're in Jumanji or something like.

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Speaker 2: It is shockingly bad security in MCU. I will say this, No,

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Speaker 2: talked about in the future. This is a good, funny

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Speaker 1: Ritsin is really shaken up by the fact that all

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Speaker 1: down there for what is termed.

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00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: A long long time. What does that mean?

441
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: I'll say this everybody else when they get up is

442
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: they're shaky, you know, but they have no problem. He's

443
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: still like limping. I wonder if it's like post Civil war,

444
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: like in the wake of Civil War.

445
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: They got him, that's crazy, and they just had to

446
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: keep replacing different people like that.

447
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: Scroll was probably too messed up to a role, so

448
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: they got Tivity Dalton.

449
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of questions coming out

450
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: of this about the real and I guess they set

451
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: it up with the end that you could potentially end

452
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: up in a situation where it was like.

453
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 3: Oh, the scrolls.

454
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: You know, we're going to do a hearing on the

455
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 2: scroll so you can say, like, who, how long were.

456
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: You in there? The scroll?

457
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: New scrollers for like.

458
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: Roady, who was wearing those fancy Iron Man pants that

459
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: Tony Stark wore for you like.

460
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: Was it you?

461
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: Like?

462
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: Was it a scroll?

463
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 4: Do scrolls have that technology?

464
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: And is that then going to be the source of

465
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: conflict in Armor Wars, which we've always been wondering how

466
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: they were going to do it. I would hope they

467
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: go for a more back to basics vibe for arm Awards,

468
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 2: because one of my favorite comic arts of all time,

469
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: and I don't think it needs.

470
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: The secret invasion touch.

471
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: But I'm very interested because it seems like Roady is

472
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: the one who's most like, what the fuck's going on?

473
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: I would imagine, I mean, who knows what they'll do.

474
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: I think a kind of cool effectiveness would be that

475
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: Rody's career is probably fucked because people are going to

476
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: be like, well, yes, you were being impersonated by a scroll,

477
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: but now nobody trusts him, you know, like.

478
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this in a way, this is actually

479
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: the closest that we've gotten to real secret invasion. Is

480
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: like now people know this is going to happen, because,

481
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: as we will get to in a minute, Ritzen is

482
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: an unhinged maniact like.

483
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: N is eating red meat.

484
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: He's folks gone wild, and he is like obviously going

485
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: to start this kind of secret invasion fallout star War

486
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: where it's like you can't trust anyone. Rody was a scroll.

487
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: Everyone was a scroll, So that could be the fallout

488
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: we get. That's much closer to the comics, Yes that

489
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 2: you know than this.

490
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: So Ritson makes a speech in his hospital room and

491
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: not clear if it's the one that Scrody wrote for

492
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: him or if he put edits on.

493
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: Off the Dome's freestyl.

494
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: It's a cipher from President Whinson and he's got some

495
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: bangers in there. He says something to the effect of,

496
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: we know how to find you. We will hunt every

497
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: last one of you down, and we will kill every

498
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: last one of you. Imagine the American president going on

499
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: television and just saying flat out We're gonna kill you all.

500
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the most bonkers things, because especially

501
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: something we've been talking about is like, it doesn't really

502
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: feel like there's been a good scope in this show

503
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: shown of like how people would react to another alien

504
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: invasion post the Chatari. You feel like it would be

505
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: like a global news frenzy. But this has been incredibly interior.

506
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: So now not only is it like he's going on

507
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: and he's not like my fellow Americans, like I'm here

508
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: to tell you of a shape shifting alien threat.

509
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: But we also have allies within this community. He's like, Bro,

510
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: there's aliens. I'm gonna kill them. He's every Alien.

511
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're a Scroll, doesn't matter, if

512
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: you're Chatari, doesn't matter, if you're Captain Marvel, doesn't matter

513
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: if you're.

514
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: Create like you're getting killed.

515
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: No, He's like, He's like, the came for me, and

516
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: that's it. They fucked up because I'm still alive. So

517
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: fucking around and find out, fuck around and find out

518
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: every scroll out there. What are you gonna do when

519
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: you go to sleep and I'm still trying to murder

520
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: you, You better sleep with one eye open because President Ritson

521
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: is coming. Fury finally apologizes to his wife Vara for

522
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: years and years and years and years of not calling,

523
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: of not hanging out, of basically neglecting her, and he

524
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: basically admits in a kind of a very very roundabout

525
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: way that he loves her for who she is the

526
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: not the disguise she puts on. Sonya recruits Gaya to

527
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: whatever sis her New Ork.

528
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: No, No, I have to say, I did think this

529
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: was missing. This is one of those moments where I

530
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: feel like they kind of they forget what makes people

531
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: excited about the MCU, because she essentially it looks like,

532
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: I guess they shake hands, but it looks like she's

533
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: almost handing her a cod and I was like, oh,

534
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: is it gonna say like am I three? Like is

535
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: it gonna be be like a connection to this organization,

536
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: but it's more of just like an acknowledged like okay,

537
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: And I did like, of course, Olivia Kleman has been

538
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: the highlight of this show to me, and I kind

539
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: of liked the moment where she said, like, let's not

540
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: mess up like your father and Fury did and make

541
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: it about friendship and love.

542
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: Let's just use each other and.

543
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use you and you're gonna use me, and

544
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: hopefully that will end with us being in a situation

545
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: where our people are safe. And I thought that was

546
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: a good character moment. But I feel like, again in

547
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: the odd days, you would have got like a shield.

548
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: Card or something, you know.

549
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: I feel like there was something missing there to tell

550
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: people what to expect.

551
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: I think it's because with Guya.

552
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: They've essentially created like it. People thought that Amelia was

553
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: maybe gonna be like Varianki, like the scroll embersors, so

554
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: they've kind of put themselves in a situation of crafting

555
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: a very new vision of a Scroll leader that they,

556
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: I guess don't necessarily have a lot to point in

557
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: the direction of like this is what's coming next.

558
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Fury then called written on the phone and it's like,

559
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: hey man, crazy speech that you made. I'm watching you.

560
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: You better watch it because that speech has inspired like

561
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: militias around the globes just like gunned down.

562
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 3: People just kill him.

563
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Journalists and uh and politicians and some of them are scrolls, true,

564
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: but then others are like not and you just.

565
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: Some of them are like chill scrolls who didn't want

566
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: to invade you.

567
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now all the now, all the good scrolls

568
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: are like going over to the other side and this

569
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: is just like all bad uh, and we need to

570
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: stop this.

571
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: Also, can I.

572
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: Just say, whos among us can call the President of

573
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: America and be like you better watch out and like

574
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: threaten his life and Nick Fury's still just standing like

575
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: again severe security issues around President Ritza and like really bad.

576
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: So then and by the way, that could have been

577
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you can have fixed that with just

578
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: like you show Fury with like a cell phone and

579
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: he puts like some gadget.

580
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: On yeah, yeah, yeah, something like yeah earlier you see

581
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: Ritzy and give him a bonafide He's like, you're the

582
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: only one who I trust or somebody anyway.

583
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: So ritz AND's like, well, if you love scroll so much,

584
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: then tell them to get the fuck off my planet.

585
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: My planet is a little presumptuous. We see that Sonya

586
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: and Gaya their first kind of mission, I.

587
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 3: Guess that's just happening right now.

588
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: It's just happening right now is to like find all

589
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: the scroll labs where I guess it would. They don't

590
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: really go into us. But apparently what Gravic had been

591
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: doing is he had all these like storage facilities of

592
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: I guess, powerful smart people, and he was just like

593
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: brain draining and taking on their memory, like how maybe

594
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: like you, how to do things.

595
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 2: Some of them were really small and powerful, and some

596
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: of them were like civilians, because that would explain how

597
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: the scrolls had so many different faces, like and so

598
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: many different personalities that they could kind of drop in

599
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: and out of. But yeah, that was an unexpected ending

600
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: that I didn't necessarily understand the impact of. But basically,

601
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot more scrolls and humans being harvested for

602
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: scroll stuff than you thought, right.

603
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: And she and Sonya says, this is how the enemy

604
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: got so good and you know these rooms are just

605
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: like there's like two hundred people just asleep, farting ino.

606
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Oh, it would stink terrible.

607
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Also, like what about like if they need to like

608
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: pee and stuff, they just exactly I think it would

609
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: be really bad.

610
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 3: It would be terrible to be in that room.

611
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: ID.

612
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to go there.

613
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: Fury is then gonna take Ritson's advice himself and leave

614
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: the planet. So he's like, Okay, I'm gonna leave his spaceship.

615
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: You see a light come down.

616
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: That's wrong with this man though, Like, honestly, I want

617
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: to go back to space.

618
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: Ending of this if.

619
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: You've if you've ever watched the extremely popular American sitcom

620
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: called ALF, about the alien life.

621
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Form that a cat eating alien.

622
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, cat eating alien who lives with a family, I

623
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: just want to say, the end of this episode really

624
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: looks like the kind of finale of ALF, where he's

625
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: like gonna escape to his family.

626
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: So I feel like they were really lead they were

627
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: like ALF.

628
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: That's a high bar of quality for prestige television. But

629
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: I just need to say Nick Fury Cara Danvers same problem.

630
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: I understand why they get a along so well. Yeah,

631
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: both of these people just go off to space anytime

632
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: their family needs them.

633
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: They're like, fuck you, peace out, I'm going to space.

634
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: Carol Danver's girlfriend, Monica Rambo's mom, She's like, I've been

635
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: raising our child here, Like, what's going on. I understand,

636
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: just as a disclaimer with an asterisk, they are not

637
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: clinically girlfriends, but I've seen the movie, so I know

638
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: that they're in love.

639
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: And like, even as a friend, she's like, Hey, what's

640
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: going on.

641
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: I spent like all my years of my life raising

642
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: my door and people thinking I'm crazy because I've been

643
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: saying you're still out there. And Carol's like, must suck

644
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: for you. I got to go back into space. Nick

645
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Fury his wife, his secret wife. He hasn't seen him

646
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: for like five six years. He's like, oh, sorry, I

647
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: know I'm back now, but I guess I've got to

648
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: go back to space again.

649
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,560
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Speaker 1: So he's about to go back to space, but then

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00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Varra pulls up uh, and he's like, why don't come

659
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Speaker 1: Let's just go back to space. Let's like have a

661
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: vacation in space. You're from space, I've been living in space.

662
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: Let's just do this together. And she's like, no, my

663
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: work is here is too important, which I took to

664
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: me and she didn't really explain it, but I took

665
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: that to mean like binding the wounds of the scroll

666
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: people through some kind of.

667
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: Leaders maybe taking accountability for like being part of graphics

668
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: life and kind of like trying to make things right.

669
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: She then takes on her scroll form and he tells

670
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: her that he loves her the way she is, and

671
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: they kiss and she looks like a scroll and then

672
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: after saying that my work here is too important, she

673
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: then gets on the spaceship with Nick.

674
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: You're romantic honeymoon they made for each other. She's like, also,

675
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 2: peace out, I don't care about these sculls.

676
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: To me, why did why in the one line earlier

677
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: does she say my work here is too important And

678
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: then the very next thing that happens is she's getting

679
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: beamed up with Nick Togever.

680
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess the implication is like Nick is

681
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: more important than her work. But also like, one, this

682
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: is a very toxic relationship. I just did to say,

683
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: like they do not treat each other.

684
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Well.

685
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: Two, Nick Furrey, you can't just go back to space

686
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: like you just started a scroll human war.

687
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: The president just declared war on scrolls. You case it out.

688
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: The President is saying we will kill every single alien

689
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Speaker 1: on that.

690
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 2: And Nick Fury was like he came down and he

691
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: was like, well, guess I've admitted I'll never find a

692
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: home for scrolls. So I'm gonna go back up to

693
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: space now while the President tries to kill everyone.

694
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: This seems really bad. And also like what about the Avengers.

695
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: Just give him a call.

696
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: You didn't even have to pay Chris Evans to pick

697
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Speaker 2: up the phone and record something over the phone like

698
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: he was stephen An eric In like a talking cat, right,

699
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: You could have just you could have just literally had

700
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: a phone call of Nick Fury being like, I really

701
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: messed up like, I'm gonna need you guys to come

702
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: and clean up. But now we just went to space

703
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: on a romantic honeymoon.

704
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Tatos is dead.

705
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Speaker 1: He's gonna make Taylors can I okay, so I have

706
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: here's a dangling thread that I was so sure was

707
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: foreshadowing and then wasn't. So I don't understand why it's

708
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: in this. But when Nick and Sonya were talking about

709
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: the Widow's Veil and oh my gosh, She's like, why

710
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: don't you get the kind that does the whole body?

711
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: They have that now and he's like, no, but this

712
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: is the beta version. They do have that new one,

713
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: but I don't have it. It seemed like, okay, here

714
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna get here.

715
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna sneak in his guy out.

716
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: And I know also as well, like it just makes

717
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Chekhov's veil. Yeah, it makes no sense because like that

718
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: was something you'd spoken about really early on in the series.

719
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Speaker 3: Oh, how are they gonna use the veil?

720
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: They literally have a power that can give them the

721
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: same power as scrolls, And we see a music one's

722
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: going through an airport and then it's just like, oh,

723
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: there's even a more fancy one. That you could use

724
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: it changes your whole body. That sounds useful. No, there's

725
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: not useful. There's no foreshadowing, and instead we're gonna get Guya.

726
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: Pretending to be Nick Fury.

727
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: It was very strange.

728
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

729
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: Now, I think here's the thing that I think could

730
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: be cool in the wake of this is clearly the

731
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: scrolls need leadership. Guya, I guess would be the natural

732
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: one Vara if she comes back from space with Nick.

733
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: But like you know, we've now like established this like

734
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: center of policination, this nasignation of scrolls. There's still upwards

735
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: of a million of them on the planet. Like that's

736
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: a cool like center of power to be reckoned with

737
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: going forward into the MCU when we know that they're

738
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: gonna unveil mutants sooner or later. There's now all these

739
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: other kind of powered folks who can influence events, and

740
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: I think if they really tap into that, that could

741
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: be kind of cool.

742
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: That could be cool.

743
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: It should be like a world shifting change for the MCU,

744
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: because this is essentially going to establish what the original

745
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: Secret Invasion comics established, which is like people won't trust

746
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: heroes because scrolls can have hero powers. So that's really cool,

747
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: But honestly that should have been established in the show,

748
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: not as a potential going forward.

749
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Who was the like the mainstream scroll politician who in

750
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: full scroll form goes on TV and is like, Hey,

751
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: I know, you guys are scared of us, but actually

752
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: we've been like doing really important shit for the American

753
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: government for years, Like we put together the Avengers. Basically

754
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: we put Nick Fury like into the leadership of We

755
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: did all this stuff, and we're your friends, and we're

756
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: here to live amongst you. We can live in abandoned

757
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: nuclear power plants and like radioactive dom.

758
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't even need to take your housing.

759
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can live where like where the worst toxic

760
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: chemicals are. We just put us there and can we

761
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: live there. That would be a very interesting wrinkle going forward.

762
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very interested to see where they go with it,

763
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: especially because they went so far from the comics with

764
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: this one.

765
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: It will be really interesting to see.

766
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: And this once again, if we're talking about long term

767
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: you know you mentioned mutants, this is gonna or it could,

768
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: I won't say definitely. This could establish more of that

769
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: hate and fear that you need for the X Men

770
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: to exist. You have Ritzen who's an anti alien president

771
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: who soon will probably become an anti powered people president

772
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: once he learns about the super Scrolls, and then you

773
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: end up in a situation where you could do I

774
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: think part of the reason that Figi and co were

775
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: cool with Jessica erasing the Socovia records is so you

776
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: could really have like a mutant Registration Act and stuff

777
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: like that. So it will be very interesting to see

778
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: where it goes. But also I read there was a

779
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: great article at Marvel dot com by Meghan more about

780
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: it was like an oral history of the Secret Invasion comics,

781
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: and in it I learned that Brian Miles really it's

782
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: really good.

783
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: And it's so so in depth, And one of.

784
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: My favorite things I learned was that Brian Michael Bendis

785
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: wanted to originally call the book just scrolls.

786
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: With an exclamation point. They should have just called this

787
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: show Scrolls and.

788
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Then like you leave Secret Invasion for whenever you do

789
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: it like it's it's it's a truly. One of the

790
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 2: biggest flaws, I believe is using a comic that, even

791
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: for people who weren't in comic shops, that is one

792
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: of those comics where you know.

793
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: What it was.

794
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: It was a really cool one. I remember when it

795
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: was unfurling. At the time, it was really cool. Here's

796
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: another here's another wrinkle for you. What if, like, the

797
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: first mutant that gets out it is mystique because everybody's

798
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: already so Scrolls and sheep shifters, right, So all of

799
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: a sudden they discover the shape shifter that's not the alien.

800
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: We only ever seen Loki really be able to stuff

801
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: like this.

802
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: And like that, and most people like don't necessarily know

803
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: that he is like this god like car.

804
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: He's in the Avengers Crew.

805
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: So what if it's that they like flush out mystique

806
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, what

807
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: the tell? There's That's a pretty good call.

808
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: Also, I do wonder if there's some way that this

809
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: ties in with the Marvels, because even though those characters

810
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: are not shape shifters, we are going to see in

811
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: the wake of this scroll invasion. We are then going

812
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: to see these three characters who keep transforming into each other.

813
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: And if that was perceived by a public who knew

814
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: about Scrolls, they may believe that they are shape shifters.

815
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: And today I'm going to put a mild spoiler, Well,

816
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: a big spoiler warning here if you haven't read your

817
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: Marvel comics yet today, but by the time on Friday

818
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: you listen to this, hopefully you will. They revealed today

819
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: that shot Horror Kamala Khan is alive, as we knew.

820
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: Thanks, yea, we were right.

821
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: But also like Imman Vallani who plays Miss Marvel, she's

822
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: right co writing the comics and that was announced recently.

823
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing there is she's going to be

824
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: mutant and inhuman, So I think we could also see

825
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: something coming in where the inhumans do get to be

826
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: a part of the mc You and I think the

827
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: Marvels could be that big important story that people have

828
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: kind of been waiting for this year within the MCU.

829
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see.

830
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: You think Written is hot, Now wait until he finds

831
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: out that there are aliens on the Moon.

832
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just chilling. There a very weird.

833
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: Monarchy and they can give people powers with a special

834
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: mist Written will be very stressed up next nerd Out.

835
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you

836
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: love and why, a theory you're excited to share, or

837
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: a quick question we can answer, Tarn offers a very timely.

838
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: Secret invasion theory.

839
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

840
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: I have a nerd out question slash possible theory about

841
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: secret invasion and Shee Holk. In Sheeholk, we were led

842
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: to believe Hulk King is trying to get Jen's blood.

843
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Is it possible the Scrolls want her DNA or a

844
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: whole powers too close to the strength Scrolls already have.

845
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: It just feels like someone trying to steal Jen's DNA

846
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: is too similar to the Scrolls using DNA to become

847
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: super Scrolls. Love listening to you guys, Love the podcast, Taren.

848
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: I love this question.

849
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Yes, because she Hulk was.

850
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: Not in the end game Battle for Earth.

851
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 3: So it would make sense.

852
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: It would make a lot of.

853
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: Somebody may have been involved with the Scrolls plan. And

854
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: because Jen is stronger we learn in seaholk It she

855
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: can control it. So if you were gonna have a

856
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: whole DNA, she would be the better, more useful DNA

857
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: to have.

858
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: I love the idea that that there are other Scrolls

859
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: in other shows that we just have not exactly we

860
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: have not unveiled yet. I still believe that Kingpin is

861
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: a scroll.

862
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: It would make so much sense with how he came

863
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: in with those powers.

864
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: So I love that theory. It's really cool.

865
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's so fun, Taran. I think this

866
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: could be a we were right for the ages, so

867
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: we'll have to see soon. And if you have theories, passions,

868
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: or a quick question that you want to share, hit

869
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: us up at x ray at crooker dot com. Instructions

870
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: in the show notes.

871
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: That's it for us, Rosie any plugs.

872
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Speaker 2: You can find me here on Xtravision. You can read

873
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: my newsletter which is Rosie Recommends. You can find the

874
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: link to that at my Instagram which is Rosie Marx,

875
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: and you can read cool comics that I've read if

876
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: you go to my website, which is Rosie night dot com.

877
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Speaker 1: That's the next episode of Xtrovision Wednesday, August second, when

878
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about Invincible season two and other stuff.

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Speaker 2: You can watch full episodes of the podcast on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: You can also check out our Twitter at xrvpod and

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Speaker 2: our discord to hang out with cool fans who love

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Speaker 2: all the same stuff as you.

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Speaker 1: Five star ratings, five star reviews you gotta give in

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Speaker 1: to us. Here's one from ABEEB two, my favorite podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan of Jason for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and candn't ask for a better co host than Rosie

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Speaker 1: Love y'all's energy and chemistry and deep comic Star Wars knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Here so you guys break my day and make me

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show

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Speaker 1: is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin and executive

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Speaker 1: produced by me Jason Concepcion. Our editing at sound design

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Speaker 1: is by Facillis Fatopoulos. Video production by Delon Villanueva and

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Speaker 1: Rachel Gaieski. Social media by Awa Oklatti and Caroline Dunfie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Brian Basquez for our theme, See you

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Speaker 1: next time. Since you enjoy listening to us, we would

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Speaker 1: Watching from award winning television critics at Vanity Fair takes

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