WEBVTT - Patriots Draft Prospect Review: Quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Draft Prospect Review Podcast on Patriots dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com Radio. Welcome to the NFL Draft. The Draft Prospect

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<v Speaker 1>Review Podcast is your source for all the latest news

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<v Speaker 1>and information on the NFL Draft. The New England Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>like now here to preview the quarterbacks, the writers of

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots dot Com. Plus we have a special edition this year,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Draft Expert. Yeah, glad to be back for another

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<v Speaker 1>year of draft preview stuff. Can't get enough, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can't get enough. I can get enough because it

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<v Speaker 1>bores me to tears. But where anyway? We have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So Mike, just so, Paul Prolo and a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest going to be with us this year because Matisse,

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<v Speaker 1>you made the mistake of suggesting that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be more involved in the draft preparation. So you ask

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<v Speaker 1>and you shall receive, my friends, so we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Matisse Bowman with us for all of our positional breakdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>What exact, why don't you tell everybody what you do here?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is it that you do here?

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<v Speaker 1>I help out post the Patriots dot com website, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you post your wheatly notes and Mike does the

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<v Speaker 1>mailbag and Um sometimes help out Matt Morrell of Patriots Unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always he's always got draft commentary, like throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>time he's been here, he's got his prospects. So I

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<v Speaker 1>always go over to him to see a white like

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<v Speaker 1>that guy Ta. So you guys have heard tease because

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<v Speaker 1>he does. He fills in for Matt on occasion as

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<v Speaker 1>our producer for Patriots Unfiltered. Today, we're gonna kick things off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the logical spot here, We'll start with quarterback. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a great class of quarterbacks this year in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two draft, A lot of question marks at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. There could be a couple of guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round. There might be nobody in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are still some teams like Pittsburgh, like

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina h maybe a few others that are really still

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<v Speaker 1>searching for that guy. Got take a guy, and the

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<v Speaker 1>question is do you overdraft a guy? But I'll start

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Mike, who's the one guy if you had

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<v Speaker 1>to overdraft somebody in the first round, who's the one

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<v Speaker 1>guy you liked the moment? I think it's pretty clear

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<v Speaker 1>Malik willis Um. You know, I just I think he

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<v Speaker 1>had a real good cam He had a real good,

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<v Speaker 1>real good senior Bowl, uh, you know, through the ball

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<v Speaker 1>all in weather down there in Tuscaloosa. When so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, showing that he can do that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not great. I means he's one of these new guys

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<v Speaker 1>that's athletic. I mean he you know, is a small

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<v Speaker 1>school from Liberty, started at auburn Um, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>we lit it up at a small school, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the question is can he make the jump? But I

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<v Speaker 1>think is athleticism another thing to point out about him,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, getting caught at the combine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>given a homeless guy a bunch of stuff, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just things like that. Seems like a good quality leader.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you're right, Paul, it's is a team

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<v Speaker 1>gonna overdraft him? Maybe, you know in the teens twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's probably Carolina. I think sitting at six, if

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<v Speaker 1>they were to take a quarterback, I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the definition of overdrafting. But Tis, do you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike? Is? It is it Willis? I think Willis

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that stands out and the only other

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<v Speaker 1>person I'd reach for it maybe be Kenny Pickett. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take Pickett ahead of Willis, But what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on Willis? Before I talk about Kenny Pickett?

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit big, He's strong, and he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>he can command an offense, and he's pretty mobile, which

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<v Speaker 1>is where the league's going now. But then again, do

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to risk a first round pick on

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that you're pretty unsure about? Yeah? No, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>no question. I mean the measurables, you know, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling I think by far is Willis. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he has a skill set that most of the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy's darm most of the other guys don't have. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>worried about the level of play that he was at

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<v Speaker 1>and when he did get a chance at Liberty to

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<v Speaker 1>go up against some of the better programs, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was great. But also part of that is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what he's surrounded by. It's sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>anti Matt Uh. You know, you didn't have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of talent around him. But I I the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that scares me about Kenny Pickett is just basically

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<v Speaker 1>one year. He had an unbelievable year in twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>forty two touchdown seven picks. I think that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came out of nowhere, and now everybody's worried about

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<v Speaker 1>the hand size. You know, he's got tiny little Paul hands,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know in the gloves, you know whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you measure it with you know, wrapping his hand

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way around the football like doing it them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some different, uh thing. I think Kenny Pickett is

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<v Speaker 1>a safer pick. I agree with you guys that Willis

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<v Speaker 1>has the higher up sta. I mean, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty eight career fumbles lost twenty six, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the hand size concern. That's that's legitimate. But but you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was there for a while, exploded his

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<v Speaker 1>senior year. He does he does ask them upside. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's, you know, you get so caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>the minutia of hand size and forty time and all

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<v Speaker 1>those different things. But I do think he's a good

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<v Speaker 1>football player. You know, if he he seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steeler guy, right, like he's Pittsburgh went to pit

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That that just seems like a natural fit

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<v Speaker 1>to me for for the obvious reason. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's another guy, definitely, same kind of range.

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<v Speaker 1>Low first round. Some team needs a quarterback, like Pittsburgh tease.

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<v Speaker 1>The Patriots obviously are not going to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>market early on for a quarterback, you after taking Mac

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<v Speaker 1>Jones last year. So you know, there's there's some other

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are probably Day two picks. Matt Corrall, Desmond Ritter. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know those kinds of guys. But if we go

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit further down the list, the Patriots good

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's always good business, always quarterbacks. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>a Day three kind of guy that maybe stuck out

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<v Speaker 1>to you, any of these guys you like. Sort of

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<v Speaker 1>as we moved down the list, the only two or

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<v Speaker 1>Carts and Strong from Nevada and Derek King Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>you take Derek King with hoping that he's a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>or another precaution. I tell him, Paul, go ahead, guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been his ball, He's been his guy ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul compared to Drew Blood. So as a calm he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, he barked out, did you see this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I do like Strong? Um? You know I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>the knee injuries though multiple knee injuries. That said, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't remind me all that much when I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see it either, I didn't really see it either. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even really that, you know, I always think

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<v Speaker 1>it drew six six, you know, pocket guy and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, certainly he's a little more athletic. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is definitely a pocket past everybody. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do worry about those injuries too. They said he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna move around like old Philip Rivers. And he's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two if you're already making that, and therefore he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Day three pick right right, you know, So I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with Teath. I think he probably out of this group,

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<v Speaker 1>had the best skill set. Think he threw the best,

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<v Speaker 1>the best ball. You know, good size six sixty three two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two thirty ish, you know, good, good solid

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<v Speaker 1>comes from good stock, ye duce right, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's a guy. Now. I wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>um Caleb Ellaby from Western Michigan only because we know

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Judge and was part of a Patriot's contingent

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<v Speaker 1>that was in Kalamazoo about a month ago, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were looking at him. Now there were other guys too.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a receiver that we'll talk about in later podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Sky more that he threw to a lot like him

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<v Speaker 1>at Western Michigan, but specifically they were looking at Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>Ellaby that day. Was there anything that you guys saw

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<v Speaker 1>from him that stuck out? Not really get Okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>this is then with no Caleb Ellaby fans here, This

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a due diligence trip a little bit to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the small guys, But but I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just again, to go back to your point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think every year I would select a quarterback at some range,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it was an undrafted guy. Um, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's good business to bring guys every year. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Jared Stidham coming into the final year of his deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You did sign Brian Hoyer for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>But how how you know is he really gonna step

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<v Speaker 1>in as a backup. I think he's more of a mentor. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he could step in. But I just again, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just good practice to commune to bring these guys in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, another guy, just want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up with Sam Howell from North Carolina, who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming into this year, I thought he was getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hype. He was kind of in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of my mind. And then you know, I when I

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<v Speaker 1>really actually watched him, I was not impressed. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt like he was football player, not a quarterback. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of reminded me of like kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a budget version of of of Cleveland's quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I've hit their former quarterback. I should put like Baker Mayfield.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like a like a like a budget version

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<v Speaker 1>of Baker Mayfield, which I know wasn't saying much, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just saw him at the combine. Didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>look the part. So I think he embodies some of

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<v Speaker 1>what a lot of this class is outside of Willison Pickett.

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<v Speaker 1>And after that, everybody's got some questions. Nobody's got perfect

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<v Speaker 1>side or perfect arm or perfect you know, athleticism. There's

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<v Speaker 1>questions across the board. And I mean, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to take a chance, I'd probably go

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<v Speaker 1>as strong and you know, hope that that he's healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, maybe he can be a backup

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while and really get healthy and learn

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<v Speaker 1>the system. I think he kind of fits what they do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one guy before we wrapped this one up, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say is Desmond Ridder. For me, I think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably get taken a little bit earlier than some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other guys that we're talking about. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>got him, you know, day three, fifth round ish, um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think he'll be around that long,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you did, I think there's something to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>He has good size, he's a good athlete, has a

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<v Speaker 1>good arm, and I think he could probably learn the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL system a little bit. Um. You know, during you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had good success at Cincinnati. You know he's got

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<v Speaker 1>he got he got stacked team. I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 1>got that into the you know, he got him into

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<v Speaker 1>the College Football Playoff this year, which obviously is unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 1>No non traditional school, non Power five school has ever

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<v Speaker 1>done that in the short history of it. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was a big part of that. I do think there's

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<v Speaker 1>some upside there. I mean, he'd be a good backup.

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<v Speaker 1>I think initially if he wasn't relied upon, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. I think there's some some potential.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I don't think he'll be around. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Sam Howell, Skylar Thompson. These guys, they were they

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<v Speaker 1>were like running back athletes that were asked to play quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in college and they were gamers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Sam Howell at North Carolina. I mean he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great career there, great college career, nothing to be

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<v Speaker 1>ashamed of. He's not an NFL quarterback, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the last guy I'm gonna throw out there

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<v Speaker 1>just because he's local, EJ. Perry from Brown some wide

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<v Speaker 1>ranging opinions. I think the consensus on this show with

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us is um really good athlete free agent. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys, I mean yeah, I mean Caleb Ellaby

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<v Speaker 1>is a free agent. I mean, I don't think any

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys are going to get drafted. You might

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<v Speaker 1>only have five or six quarterbacks even selected. It's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just happy that you got one last year

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<v Speaker 1>and the Patriots aren't sitting in a position. Think there

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<v Speaker 1>were five in the top fifteen picks, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody would be bat an eyelash if there were

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<v Speaker 1>only five taken total this year. Right. Well, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I've I've seen a bunch of DJ Perry. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what's kind of funny. Going to the combine. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him, wrote an article about him there, went

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<v Speaker 1>out to Holy Cross his pro day. He was there throwing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he's a small guy, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's athletic and um, you know, I don't really see

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver comp. He doesn't really seem like that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But he does seem focused on, you know, getting into

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<v Speaker 1>a camp. I think he understands where he's at. He's

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of support locally. Matt Hasselbeck came out

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<v Speaker 1>to the pro day for him and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>getting a chance. I mean, he he's literally the only

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback I've seen throw the ball in person. He threw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, did a bunch of drills, Um it got there.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't always pretty. Um, So you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's probably kind of guy that that that

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, signs with somebody and and gets a camping

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<v Speaker 1>and listening to him talk, I think he understands that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good athlete. He'll get in camp with somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I happen to know the family a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit is up my way from andover, So I wish

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<v Speaker 1>him well, but I yeah, I don't really see the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL future. I know a lot of people will convince

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be the next Ivy League quarter hasn't been an

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<v Speaker 1>IVY League quarterback drafted since Ryan Fitzpatrick. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are predicting he will be the next one. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you will. So that's going to wrap up quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need to spend too much time on a

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<v Speaker 1>position that I think we all agree that Patriots probably

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be having at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>their priority list. But we're underway. We've kicked it off,

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