WEBVTT - Takeaways From OTA Practices, Secondary Depth | Bucs Insider 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.320 Welcome into Buccaneers Insider Live, presented by Miller. Like Casey Phillips, 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.600 here was senior writer and editor Scott Smith. And we 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.600 are still in the middle of O t A s, 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:15.680 which is an exciting time because it's our first chance 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.800 to see some of the veteran players alongside the rookie players, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.279 and our first time to hear from a lot of 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.599 people at the podium that we haven't got a chance 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.560 to talk to since last season and get their opinions 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.240 on some of the new editions and what's going on 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.280 with the team. So, uh, first, well, just any kind 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.639 of big takeaways from O t A so far, some 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.800 of the moments of podium and I we have a 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.240 few different things we're going to get into, but just 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.400 kind of big picture. Well, it is interesting some of 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.880 the veterans that have showed up recently, like this week, 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.599 Shaq Barron and Devin White and Vida vet has been 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.400 there the whole time. There's a good number of veterans 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.519 there and the turnout has been pretty impressive because remember 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.279 these are completely voluntary and really the entire NFL has 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.080 sort of trended the last couple of years towards this 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.680 being more about the young players. Those are the guys 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.960 that the team wants to get the most snaps right now, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.560 so that, as as Todd Bowles put it on two Day, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.760 they get enough set, They get enough foundation set so 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.800 that when they hit training camp they can hit the 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.440 ground running and they can reasonably compete. They'll know enough 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.760 to be close enough to the veterans in their knowledge 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.199 to be able to compete, and they're not just trying 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.760 from square one. So that's what most of it's about. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.759 But you still have some of these guys showing up 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.560 like Devin White or Shack or that they have a 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.520 reason they're in the area. Check says, I'm in the area, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.160 why would I not show up at work and try 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.840 to get better? So, um, there's no there's that's not 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.640 to contrast to anybody that's not here. There's perfectly good 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.600 reasons not to be here. And again it's incredible and 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.160 completely that's what I'm looking for voluntary. But some of 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.200 these guys see the value in it, Like a Devin 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.360 White's working on his diet and his training, and he 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.640 also there's new wrinkles to the defense apparently that they're installing, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.840 and so he wants to get that and learn it 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.760 in person. So, um, that's what a lot of it's 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.160 about for those guys. But really the main purpose of 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.880 this time is to help the young guys. And I 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.760 know Russell Gauge is one of these new guys that 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.280 we haven't talked a ton about yet because he's not 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:01.760 a draft pick. We spent a lot of time on 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.120 the draft, and uh, now he's the guy that I 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.320 think can maybe that signing maybe even been a little overlooked. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.120 Now it's been a bit and a bit of a 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.240 refresher and we got to hear Antoine Winfield Jr. Talk 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:12.560 about him. So what do you feel like you learned 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.720 in that? Well, first of all, about Russell Gauge, he 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.480 is here, he's he's at the facility while these okayes 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.720 are going on, but he's not working out right now. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.840 He coach wasn't really specific about his injuries. He just 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.040 says he's getting treatment and he's kind of sore, but 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.320 it won't be an issue for training camp. But really 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.280 it's not that big of a deal. You could say 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.280 he might be trying to work on chemistry with Todd 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.600 tom Brady, you know, because Tom Brady is famously very 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.080 specific about how he likes his guys to run their routes. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.000 But Tom Brady hasn't really been working yet, hasn't been 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.079 there either, so he doesn't he doesn't really need to 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.680 work on his chemistry with Cole Trask. But yeah, I 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.919 think everybody's really excited about the addition of Russell gauge. Um. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.200 One thing to note is that we're not sure if 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.200 Chris Godwin is going to be there for the very 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.320 start of the season, hopefully but not necessarily. And so 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.440 as Antoine Winfield was talking, he thinks Russell Gaves would 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.560 be awesome in the slot. We already have an awesome 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.000 slot receiver and Chris Godwin, but he may not be 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.440 there at the beginning. And then when he is there, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.560 you really make him very interchangeable. And as you can 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.440 see here on this graphic right here, Um, this this 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.040 is showing what guys, how these guys were targeted on 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.399 third downs last year, and obviously Russell was in Atlanta. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.840 You look at these numbers really tell a story of 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.080 different types of receivers and targets. Look at Mike Evans, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.959 very very successful when we throwed him in third down, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.200 but his target rate is lower than the other guys. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.440 And if you look at Chris Godwin, who has has 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.520 the same number catches but a lot fewer yards, but 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.200 look at how much of that is after the catch, 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:36.640 and you can you can see that in your mind. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.160 You can see Chris Godden catching that real quick slant 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.440 and making ten more yards and getting the first down 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.400 his target rate. Now if he's not there, to look 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.640 at Russell Gates, he was very good on third down 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.760 and very highly used by the Falcons last year. He 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.600 had a little more YAK than Mike, so he might 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:52.800 be able to do the same sort of things that 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.240 Godwin did. But I think just just paints a picture 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.400 on how these guys are used on third down. Yeah, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.200 that's gonna be incredible. And another guy that we're gonna 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.560 be interested to see how he's used is our new 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.000 first pick. I keep wanting to say first round pick, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.800 but it's not quite right close enough. Logan Hall, and 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.640 you talked about Vita Villas here, and this is definitely 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.400 a guy whose opinion on Logan Hall, I was excited 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.880 to hear. Yeah, Vita thinks he said he's very I 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.960 can already tell he's very athletic, he thinks he's going 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.479 to do big things, and obviously those two guys will 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.000 probably and Golden Locals will be your three primary guys 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.039 on that down line, in that interior line. Um, what 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.719 Vita was saying about him is that he's just he's 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.480 very active and very athletic, and obviously the Buccaneers are 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.599 hoping that he adds a certain number of sacks and 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.080 pressure from the interior. The interesting thing, though, is I 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.600 think you maybe might have to temper your expectations just 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.200 a teeny little bit. He could have a very nice 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.280 rooky season, but he won't necessarily have like the six 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.039 sacks that in Dominquensue at Lessure. Hopefully he will. But 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.200 if you look at some of the most notable defensive 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.320 tackled interior lineman rookies that the Buccaneers have had, I 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.200 put Santana Dotson on there because he holds the Buck's record, 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.400 uh for Sax's rookie ridiculous. He was like a fifth 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.720 round pick. The rest of those guys were all notable 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.080 first round picks by the Buccaneers, all defensive tackles. Marcus 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.719 Jones eventually switched in, but he was a defensive tackle 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.080 upon being drafted. I mean, look at the Moren SAPs 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.560 Hall of Famer. We love Vita Via Gerald McCoy went 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.880 to six Pro Bowls, but their sack toles as rookies 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.680 weren't really that enormous, right, Sometimes it takes a little 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.000 while to get into it. Hopefully Logan Hall falls somewhere 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.520 in between Sap and the rest in Santana Dotson. But 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.960 what we'll have to wait and see. Yeah, that's going 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.880 to be interesting for sure. And then I know that 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.279 since Coach Bowls has taken over, now we do still 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.880 have Byron left which is the offensive coordinator, so consistency there. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.280 But when Bruce arians was so known for his no 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.120 risk a no biscuit and everybody's wondered, how how could 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.280 Todd Bowles taking over maybe change what this offense could 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.080 look like in the team overall. So with a few 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.680 people at the podium now this week, do you feel 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.600 like you've gotten any kind of sense on what that 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.239 could mean and what they're looking at. I think there's 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.560 a certain bit of angst out there that with Todd 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.880 Bowles taking over, even with Byron left wid still being 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.279 your play caller, that he's going to force the team 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.800 to be a run first offense, and and and he's 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.720 just gonna try to pound it as much as possible. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.760 And I just don't think that that's something they have 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:07.520 to worry about. As Todd Bowle said very straightforwardly on Tuesday, 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.000 he's gonna do one offense what it takes to win. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.960 So if that means Tom Brady throwing the ball fifty 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.719 five times in a game, if that's what's working and 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.520 that's what the game plan says, we're gonna do that. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.520 If we run, if we're running well, and you run 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.760 thirty times and you win, he's going to do that. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.320 But as cam Brad pointed out a little bit later, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.840 there are a couple opponents that the Buccaneers have had 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.839 trouble with the last few years, the Rams and the Saints. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.280 It's no secrets. Of the ten losses the Bucks have 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.520 had the last two years, seven of them. Again, then 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.680 against those two teams, it's very unfortunate ones in our division, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.279 and one just seems to be a team we always 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.960 have every single year, and and you know they're probably 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.000 in each other's past in terms of trying to get 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.320 the Super Bowl. Uh As Cam Brady was pointing out 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.720 against some teams he thinks the Buckners really do need 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.440 to try to establish the run and successfully do so. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.040 And that's the Saints and the Rams, because we simply 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.080 haven't run the ball very well against those teams in 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.120 and so in that case, the Bucks might need to 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.760 do that. And the point is not just to get 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.840 the running game going, but that the making them fear 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.840 the running game opens up options for your pass right, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.800 And I just threw this up here. Now, this is 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.840 Leonard Fournett's runs last year, all of them is. He 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.680 had about carries overall, and it shows you what fronts, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.520 how often they had an extra man in the box 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.400 that's stacked at the bottom, how often it was just 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.200 seven people, and how often it was six or fewer. Now, look, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.960 Leonard Fournette clearly did better against the lighter fronts, and 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.080 that's great for him, right, But the few, the fall 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.920 small number of snaps against stack fronts tells you that 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.920 teams were not fearing our running game. Obviously, it's harder 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.880 to run against stack fronts, but if you can force 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.240 them into those, you can do play action and so 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.360 on and really do more things in the passing games. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.960 So obviously the Buckners would like Leonard to still have 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:56.000 success against the lighter boxes this year, but they probably 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.640 like to see more stack boxes overall. Okay, well we're 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.640 going to take a couple of our Facebook questions now. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.000 If you have one of those, you can head on 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.440 over to the Buccaneers Facebook page and underneath our live 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.360 video you can leave your question there. And of course 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.640 I bet you can guess, uh, yes, there it is. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.520 The TJ basically just sort of yelled Gronk's name at 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.480 us multiple times, and you know, ask her, is there 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.480 is there any news on his returns? At least there's 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.960 some bit of I don't know if i'd call it 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:29.480 news that activity activity that was in town and he 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.920 and Rod got together and they were just right over there. Yeah, uh, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.439 Tom was taken some hacks And which am I the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.680 only person that noticed? Yes? Why it was? I didn't 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.920 feel like people were talking about this, and I was like, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.040 wait a minute, what could he just really? Throwing right 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.600 handed and swinging left handed is the absolute perfect combination 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.760 for a baseball player, because you can play any don't 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.760 say this, or he's just gonna randomly, all of a 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.320 sudden go play baseball, golf, yeah, just everything else. Why 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.199 not He's conquered in the whole rest of the world. Well, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.000 Michael Jordan won three more championships after he went played baseball. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.920 You know, Brady open don't uh yeah, I mean you 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.720 you want to be right hand throw left and swinger 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.400 and baseball. It's advantageable times. There you go. Of course, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.520 Tom Brady, of course, why would he not have advantage 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.800 on Hopefully after that little session with with Gronkfield and 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.600 the flyballs that that Tom's left handedly hitting, they got 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.400 together and had a little discussion, isn't this fun to 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.320 play games together? Let's exactly. So. I don't know how 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.040 much you want to read into that kind of him 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.600 reading why not. We're just kind of we're all kind 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.760 of waiting and hoping. You know. It was funny because 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.200 I think it was Byron Leftwitch that was at the podium, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.160 not this week, but last week and said so when 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.520 they were asking about Gronk and if you know when 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.080 he comes back, if he comes back, if he doesn't 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:44.880 come back, and he answered if he comes back parton, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.959 he says, I really don't want to think about the 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.280 possibly of gron Hosky not come back. Yeah, so same 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.880 if you like in the building, there's a general hope 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.520 that's going to happen. Yeah, I would agree with that. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.920 Al right. So Willie asked, how do our corner and 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.200 safety positions look? Um, so in terms of I would 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.560 have guess he means both in terms of depth and 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.040 just health and starters and all of that stuff. Well, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.000 if if he means how they look at O T S, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.839 it's really not an easy question to answer because most 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.800 of your starters aren't there. You know, you know you're 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.360 not seeing Carlton Davis and Antoine Well, now, I guess 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.319 Antoine Winfields been around, but they're not all there. Mike 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.080 Edwards has been around. Uh, but I think the depth 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.760 is pretty good at safety. You lost Jordan Whitehead, but 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.079 you signed Logan Ryan and Kean O'Neil and you still 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.240 have Mike Edwards and obviously Antoine Winfield. I personally think 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.240 even though we went to the Pro Bowl last year, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.520 Antoine Winfield is on upward trajectory and is going to 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.040 get even better this year. Uh. Mike Edwards, you know, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.319 might get more snaps and what a ball hockey is, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.760 and I think they have very specific roles in mind 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.360 for Kean O'Neil and Logan Ryan that allow them to 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.360 do a lot of different things at cornerback. You have 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.720 your top three back from last year. Hopefully you have 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.520 better luck in terms of injuries. You know, Carlton Davis, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.840 Sean Murphy Bunting both missed pre significant amount of time. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.520 Jamal Dean missed I think two games. So if you 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.280 can get key those guys in the field more, you're 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.920 probably feeling pretty good. And then the big question there 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.240 is whether the fifth round Rickie's I am McCollum was 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.480 incredibly athletic and fast and big, really fits a great 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.360 profile for this defense, but it is making a big 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.319 jump from sam Houston State to the NFL. If he 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.280 can show enough to be your fourth corner, then you're 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.720 probably feeling pretty good there. And you know that fourth 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.960 corner is going to get some action at some point. Okay, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.839 and then we will close out with this. Jose said, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.360 do you see Logan Hall being a starter? Yeah? I 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.960 think he probably will be um at this point. You know, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.199 we often get in a surprise weren't asked? Is in 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.760 Dominican sue coming back? And all along I've been saying 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.599 I think he's probably up to him. He's trying to 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.640 decide if he wants to play and how much would 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.280 make it worthwhile. But we're in what we're getting pretty 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.040 close to June now, so unless something happens, I think 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.320 we have to kind of picture this moving forward without 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.600 in domic ensue. And in that case, I think Logan 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.840 Hall is pretty much the obvious three technique starter, Vida 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.040 b and the Nose and um Will Galston more on 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.800 the four technique where he really fits perfectly. And I 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.680 think all three of those guys are gonna get a 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.439 lot of naps. Your main backup is where Keim Nacho. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.040 He's mostly a backup to Vita Vea. So I think 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.960 there's room for either somebody to step up or for 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.520 the Bucks possibly to sign another guy on the defensive 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.280 line as a reserve to rotate with Logan and and 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.880 we'll go smendod Yes, I do think Logan will probably 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.280 be a starter. All right, Well, that's going to do 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.079 it for us on this edition of Buccaneers Inside a 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.240 Live presented by Miller Ltte. Thanks so much for being 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:22.360 with us. We'll see you next time.