WEBVTT - EP 89: "Under The Influence" w/Charleston White 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:07.000 Hey, James Still and eight, I need you to tell 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.320 me what the word on the streets is. What the 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.520 hell is going on? Ship? Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.680 the production of i Heeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.360 Make sure you download the i Heart app and subscribe 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.880 to the Gangster Chronicles. For my Apple users, hit the 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.119 purple mic on your front screen, subscribe to the Gainst 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.520 Chronicles and leave a five star rating and comment. We 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.360 like to welcome everyone to another episode of the Gangster 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.720 Chronicles podcast. And I have my homeboys, but Jake Tonight, Man, 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.480 we have some special individuals man coming from the Fort 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.239 Worth area. Man. We have Mr Jesse Taylor, politician man 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.760 for Tarran fort Worth, Texas man pretty much running the 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.520 show down there. And we have our homeboys, the man 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.000 around town, the Mother of the South Charleston Blue. What's 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:56.200 going on us doing? Dallas area has a huge gang 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.240 problem down there, and I know you guys are pretty 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:00.760 much the after key to the study. You know, help 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.560 a lot of different people in different situations. So when 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.640 we still, well, we we actually started with the juvenile system, man. Uh. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.680 From the juvenile system, Uh, we kind of transcended into 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.840 the doge prison system man, where I would teach classes 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.319 uh at the Central Parole Office, the main parole officer 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:23.200 in Tarron County. So every brother, at least from sixteen, 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.680 whenever they got out of prison, it was mandatory that 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.800 they would have to come to my class every Tuesday 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.839 and Thursday. Uh. Me and Mr Taylor would go inside 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.440 the juvenile system man and and connect with the young 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.360 killers on the inside where they go to prison or not. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.200 We haven't already made the connection on the inside. So 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.040 when they transition back to the re entry part of 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.880 coming back into our society, we're there to able to 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.800 provide alternatives and resources, man, when they make the transition 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.320 from lock up to back the free world. Okay, okay, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.400 so pretty much you to bridge for those guys. We 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.200 we we try to be man uh uh for black 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.920 children right now. Not not that we don't with all children, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.520 but there's not a lot of resources for our children 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.880 when they come back to our communities. There's a lot 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.960 of resources for the adults, but man, they don't have 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.560 the support system to be able to access the resources. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.280 Right the bus fare money that the gas money, uh, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:19.040 the comfort of being able to sleep somewhere, uh, peacefully 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.560 without the stress of having to go out and take 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.679 penitentiary chance to just to bring some money and to 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.440 feed the family. Man. So we try to help connect 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.200 the adults as well as the juveniles to the resources 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.920 in the communities from the connection that we have. So 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.639 he got into the politic game. Man. So he worked 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.799 more as a national delegate. Uh, he's sit down more 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.079 with your your U S congressman, your state congressman. Uh. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.840 He's either been uh he's been in close proximity with 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.280 the president for the last four years and actually dealing 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.360 and working directly with President Trump man to get certain 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.560 laws of bodised and passed in this country. Oh wow. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.720 So you guys are pretty much Briggs just from the youth, 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:02.760 so they could transition out, Yes, sir, yes, sir. Um 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.840 and Charleston he's being modest though, man. But Charles Charleston 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.480 created programs that we that we actually talk inside the 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.960 halfway houses for these kids. Um. They had like an 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.480 eight week course that he would actually go inside man 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.239 and and try to transform these uh, these young these 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.160 young guys. Man. So I tipped my hat off to 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.000 him though, man for for him to go inside and 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.160 and create programs to help these young kids out. Man, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.120 I couldn't do nothing but but jump on board and 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.200 try to help him out with that now. But during that, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.560 during that process of him creating a program, man he 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.000 at the end of this this course just a curriculum. Uh, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.720 we've supposed to been teaching of UM showing a movie 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.920 UM ministers society and the white folks want to let 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.760 us play the movie. And Ms Charleson got mad because 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.160 it was approved by the state. So I asked him 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.320 and said, what we gotta do to uh to baby 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.040 show this movie. They said, well, you gotta change the policy. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.000 But how we changed the said this time, I don't. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.360 I wasn't in the politics at allice UM, but like, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.440 you gotta change the policies. So I figured out what 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.520 I had to do to go change the policies. And 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.800 you had to miss with politicians to change the policies. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.000 So it went from showing a movie to me being 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:19.159 able to be elected, from being a presecture to being 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.600 a state delegate to being elected on the Tech of 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.440 State Criminity Legislative Board member and also UM I was 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.680 this year I was nominated as a national delegated sire 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.880 UM is like like, what's going on with the electoral 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.160 College votes? Well one of those PaperWorks got my signature 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.080 on it and Mr Charleston paperwork on it also. So 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.000 all that went from just trying to still a movie 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.320 to where we are today. Oh whilst you guys just 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.320 became the change that you wanted to see. Yes, yes, sir, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.200 yes sir, and and and and the bridge that goat 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.360 because like politician, but I'm a politician in the Republican 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.240 Party now. And that's another thing I can kind of 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.320 give a piggy back with you, Mr Charleston on um. 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.400 He forced me to do my homework on on on 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.279 politicians because I was a great up Democrats like pretty 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.839 much everybody else was. You know, you couldn't say nothing 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.760 to me about no Republican at all. But once i 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.680 started doing my homework and my research, and I've seen 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.720 the way the nation was headed, you know where the 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.039 where the Democrats was headed, you know, um, forwards towards 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.320 that you know, masculinity of of of young men, young 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.120 black men. I was like, when that ain't that's not 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.440 what That's not what I was brought up to be. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.600 And so I switched, man, I I switched. And Um. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.719 From from that point on, you know, I've been doing 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.159 my thing, you know, trying to change lots. They have 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.160 one law here to Texas, man called house bill for 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:41.800 yourself and this is this about this house to be 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.040 around here was Man, it had many guys with a 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.400 driver license revoked. Um, they was changing us twice on 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.200 on the traffic chicken. But Man, I was able to 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.240 go in. Man, we found out where the money was going. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.880 It wasn't going back to our community at all. Man. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.440 With me sitting on the resolution committee, I was able 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.240 to write up a be a house bill for each other, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.480 like I said, many and it got passed and so 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.640 everybody got all those search charges wiped off. So now 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.680 the nigga don't go to jail for send niggas used 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.520 to immediately go to jail from driving on suspended license 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.160 because he got that bill passed through legislation to the state. Man, 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:24.480 niggas can drive and leaving again. Look comfortably that God 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.200 and what we do Man, I'm not doing it for myself. Man, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.960 I do it for the for the youngsters to see 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.320 what we're doing. So that way, you know, they can 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.400 have some some guidance along the way because we got 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.040 to show them early, but we learned later and like, Man, 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.360 I ain't on about no politics, So I'm giving him 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.080 feeding all this to these young men. That what we're 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.800 doing right now. So with this legislative session coming up, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:50.240 man uh uh. Surprisingly the Texas Republican parties of the 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.320 Republican Party of Texas, they're pushing forth the bill or 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.279 were they trying to stop niggas from going to jail 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.760 on child support? So he's gonna be pushing that bill. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.560 Not only that, man, we were we're partnered with with 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.479 with local lobbyists and other policy makers to try to 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.920 get a bill that we're trying to push through this 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.479 called raised the age with seventeen year old don't go 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.800 to the printentiary in the county jails no more. So 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.200 we're trying to raise the age of juvenile jurisdiction. Man, 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.840 back up to Twente, where even if a nineteen year 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.680 old nigga do something it's not too extreme and violent 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.120 and violence that he can still remain in You have 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.960 to remain in the juvenile system with his family court 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.120 man and have a second chance of getting this record. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.000 Uh a sponge that twenty one man, So a lot 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.160 of the ship that they said they're doing on Facebook. Man, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.440 that's just the that's the dolo my game. You know, 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.920 the acting, and you know to make motherfuckers say, hey, man, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.040 look at this. But if a nigga can get past 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.440 the act and really look at what I'm saying and 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.360 then look at what the nigga really do in real life, uh, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.880 they'll see, Man, this for our people home exactly. And 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.360 that's a perfect segue and it's something that I wanted 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.240 to discuss today. Um, these young guys going to the 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.520 penitentiary system. They're going to the penitentiary system. They're seventeen 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:07.880 years old. They babies, They literally just younger than yeah. Man, Uh, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.280 most people don't know. Man. Up until sixteen, Uh, the 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.440 United States, along with Sudan, and and and and and 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.800 North Korea or was was three of the only countries 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.760 who would take a twelve year old child man and 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.840 sinished them to ju what they called juvenile life j 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.640 L walk juvenile life without parole. Right, So men in 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.240 Texas fourteen year old go to prison. And in California, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.120 I mean not California and Florida, nigga twelve year old 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.760 can walk beyond the reck yard and Niga in Florida. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.520 And I don't want to say no names because some 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.679 things happened to this young individual while in prison. Uh 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.760 for for a very very historical juvenile murder right him 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.320 and his sister. But he was brutally raped in prison. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.400 Man as a baby, he was brutally raped. So uh, 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.800 you know a lot of time man, Our little niggas 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.480 as hard as seventeen and eighteen, but they are seventeen 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.640 eighteen heartened. Little street nigga. Don't compare a man to 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.880 a year old hard and prisoner. So they are seventeen 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.320 year old and eighteen year old. They might not go 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.480 with the forty fifty year old nigga, but they go 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.520 with the older year old prisoners. And they just as 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.160 dangerous than anybody else. So that's where they put our 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.160 kids amongst the most dangerous population of prisoners, and then 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.120 expect for them to go in at such a young 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.679 age and do right in order to make parole. Then 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.640 the first thing the kid you gotta do in prisoners 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.480 try to survive. He can't try to, he can't even 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:36.439 go into rehabilitate mode. He gotta try to survive. Most people, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.760 most people that send you to prison, ain't never been 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.480 the prison, and they don't know or live the conditions 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.000 of a of an inmate, so they have no clue. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.800 What what is about I've been to prison. I seen 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.120 cash get raped in prison. I'm talking about the hardcore 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:58.480 game members get raped in prison. So anybody is subject 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.760 to be raped. I mean it is the rules and 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.640 the guidelines. A prison is enough for especially a twelve 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.240 year old that don't have the mind or the capacity 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.720 of an adult to really survive. Don't know how to 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.800 make that shape. Let let mask you behind me. So 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.640 what as a as a youth developer and as someone 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.800 who go off inside the juvenile detention center? What what 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.960 do we tell the youth workers? What do we tell 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.800 the parents? How how do you prepare a kid who 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.120 don't belong in this environment? How do you how do 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.480 you prepare him for that? Well, you came preparing him 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.320 for that, because once he hear that door closed, now 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.560 this is real life now and he's on survival mode. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.520 You came preparing for that. A twelve year old cannot 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:49.040 go to a penitentiary and and and survive. I'm talking 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.200 about without being raped, without being beaten, without being you know, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.800 getting his commissary jock in. You know, he's subject to 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.679 be somebody bitch. You know what I'm saying, And it's 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.080 sad to say. So what I'm saying is that people 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.520 that haven't been to prison don't mind sending you to 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.439 prison only because they don't got to go to prison 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.800 and deal with the conditions or the image that's in prison. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.040 And why are we imprisoned Because you've got some murderers, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.559 some some guys that's raped drug You've got all different 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.200 types of men in prison. So what you're doing today, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.319 which is something I want to do, is get them 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.240 before they get to that point. And we don't have 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.360 to discuss a twelve year old going to prison. See 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:42.200 what I'm saying. That's what that's and go ahead, what 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.440 what what you just said? Uh? In the justice system uh? 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.000 And and in public safety law enforcement? Uh? Public safety? 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.640 Right what you just said. I want to prevent them. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.800 So they have crime prevention and crime intervention programs. So 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.640 that's where the money comes in. That's where the money 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.120 comes into play. When when when you look at California's 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.319 l A Police department, the album's got a billion dollar budget. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.439 They gotta billion the albums got a billion dollar budget. 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.320 Those that's money that you give to a military, right, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.400 that's what you get to a military, a billion dollar budget, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.360 and out of that billion dollars is given to them 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.439 on the public safety, crime prevention and crime intervention, half 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.400 of that money is ours. But we don't know that. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.000 For one, we don't want to even funk with the 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.720 police to go get the money. That money falls through 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.240 under their umbrella and supposed to trinkle down to our 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.640 programs are father The Father's program is supposed to have 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.920 a hundred million dollars out of that budget. When you 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.040 look at the prison statistics, almost eighty five percent of 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.880 prisoners convicted of a crime come from a followers home. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:49.079 Those are national statistics where we're gonna beat the kids. Man, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.480 at these facilities, I don't I don't care if it's 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.840 a thousand kids out there, we're speaking to a hundred 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.400 or a team. Man, it's always gonna be the same 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.680 percentage of when I asked this question, how many of 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.840 you got your fathers at home, it's gonna be one 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.040 or two of them raising hand, and pretty much everybody 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.280 else ain't got no dog and father at home. So 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.480 what he said is right. That's that's the beginning of 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:13.239 it right there. And we haven't we haven't created a system. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.760 So when we can go inside of a single parent 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.720 home and and help that woman with a with a kid, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.960 yeah we don't do that. But exactly one one thing 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.040 I need my sisters to do though, man, and I 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.079 appreciate them the depth because they'd be doing the best 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:29.760 they can do. But one thing they need to stop 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.280 saying is their mother and daddy. Their mama and their dad, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:38.160 you know they be dead. Because what happens in some 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.560 of these these correctional facilities, Man, I see it over 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.199 it over the time and time again when these kids 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.079 come out of there, When these kids come out and 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.360 they go into the head with house and they're waiting 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.880 on their mama's or their dad is grandmama's or somebody 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.600 to pick them up in there, they're they're they're holding 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.800 there for like five six months. But what happens is, man, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.200 they stayed there far most a year or so because 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.839 why Mama don't even want them no more? Man, the 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.360 same mama that don't say, hey, look mom, I'm dad, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.800 my mom daddy. No, you ain't daddy, You're not daddy, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.920 your mother. You know, you need people like you need 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.720 people like myself, you know, to step in and you know, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.880 like you said, that program to go inside the house 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.360 of that single parent mother. That's definitely what we need, man, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.080 and that's what we do. We do some of that also, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.640 man right now, So you all the money on that, man, right, 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:28.440 That's that's our beginning as black man, to to figure 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.680 out a way how to get to our younger brothers, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:35.760 because truth be told, sometimes you can't get across to 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.400 that year old brother because he already set in his 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.480 ways and you're talking about they think they know more 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.320 than you do, which they don't. They don't know Jack 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.040 Ship until the day they wind up in prison. And 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:54.160 then they say, then they say this, just like I said, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.600 if I know what I know now, I wouldn't have 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.600 never took that road. But let's get them before that. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:05.640 Just say that you got to get these babies. Now. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.320 You can show niggas. You can give niggas a lot 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.040 of examples and ships just like well, just like we 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.720 was as as youngsters, we had to we have the 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.320 mentality that you can't tell me nothing. That's the whole problem. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.640 A lot of young mentality that you can't tell me nothing. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.520 So all that ship, all that ship you're talking is good, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.000 and yeah, I hear you, and it worked for you. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.160 But nigga, I'm still on the block every fucking day 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.200 and I'm still this and I'm still that, So that 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.280 ship don't apply to me. And that's what the problem 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.280 that we have is that a lot of young niggas 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:47.760 don't want to listen to nothing that older or other 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.920 niggas have been through. They just don't want to listen. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.080 So how so how do you change that mentality from 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.440 a dude you're trying to get to change the ways 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.080 and he deep off an it and he telling you, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.680 I don't want to hear nothing. You saying you show 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:08.040 the naw you show that nigga how to fish. Let 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.880 me tell you this is where, this is where we 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:15.520 make mistakes that to even get you that point. First, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.360 we gotta stop call it the way we talked to 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:23.440 each other. Cats want to hear that type of talk. Yeah, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.280 what's up, nigga, what's up? We gotta start respecting ourselves 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.080 as black man. Once we start respecting ourselves and they 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.880 see us with respect and care and respect to the quillets. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.560 Then they already know they're gonna come at you with 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.160 straight respect because they see you you ain't giving nothing 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:47.160 but respect. We talked ship to each other, and we 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.280 we we talked bad about each other. I got the 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.160 words for it. I was listening to a But it 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.680 starts off with respect. We gotta respect and understand each 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:02.360 other as black man. Well, I'm not gonna keep blaming 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.200 what my father did to me. I'm not gonna let 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.760 that be an excuse for me not to get to 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.920 the next level. And we gotta understand that because there's 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.560 a lot of us that grew up in the house 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.320 without a father, and they gotta understand you can make 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.000 it without a father. You as long as you've got 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.160 positive black men in your life, you can make it. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.720 And this is through the program. You don't have to 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.120 have that father figure in the household to do that. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.439 And if we can reach the young kids and let 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.760 him understand that and teach them that it's a better 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.240 way to dress, it's a better way to do, you know, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.920 to groom yourself. You know what I'm saying, father's your 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.800 hair and all of that other stuff. We have to 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.680 like really put our foot in it to get them 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.919 to understand, because the younger generation today don't want to 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.399 hear nothing. They want to see, They want to feel, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.159 They want to really know that I care. And just 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.800 talking on the phone or just coming at them and 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:01.919 the certain kind of way you gotta really be in 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:07.640 their in their life. That's a program. Yeah, you gotta 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.080 let them know. And I think for the most part, man, Uh, 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.960 I don't think our young people think the older people 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.600 really care. Brother that's in the home, whether that's when 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.720 they go to church, the preacher don't never have a 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.320 message for the children is always for the adults. Uh. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.520 They really don't even have a voice other than what 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.640 hip hop, what the hip hop platform give them. So 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.720 as I'm sitting here listening to you talk, man, do 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.639 our young people really know if we care or not. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.480 They don't. I don't think they do. They don't. Reinsurance, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.000 that's what we want. When we got a mom and 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.240 our fathers in the household, we know they're there to 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.639 protect this. That's reinsurance. But if I can get a 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.080 brother on the street that come in this house with 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.479 our absent father, and this man could come in and 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.000 come pick me up and show me how to fish, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.680 show me how to hunt, and and he genuinely cared 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.320 about me, not just drop in me off because of 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.720 a check. Are picking me up and doing this for 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.720 a check? No, I got you. You know what I'm saying. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.120 That's all they want to hear, is I got you. Well, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.119 that's what the big homie. That's what the big homie 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.320 giving me. That that fatherless affirmation, that's what the that's 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.680 what the big homie give me. And them boys looking 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.840 for it. Them boys, they gravitate to it. Let's gravitate 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.359 to it. Man, it really will if you're showing that 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.080 love like you're talking about, man, gravitate to it. Man, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.919 they're really doing me and Mrs Chaules empty Men's men 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.800 and Ms Charleson around a summer camp and around about 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.640 maybe about three or four years about three or four 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:36.200 years ago, Man, a guy um gave his club. But 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.560 for us man to tell you true. Um, So we 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.960 were doing the summertime. Man, we closed the whole club. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:43.919 Now Man, we had the kids coming over the one 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.080 the daytime. Man feed the kids breathless lunch and a halftime. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.679 They took the food home for dinner to feed the 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.679 families and everything though, man. But what I did was 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.520 when we showed them, man, we just showed them boys 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.760 love man. And then all these boys was was across 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.359 the street at the projects. I mean the projects are 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.520 the directly cross the streets. So they just walked over 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.879 to the club and had these some camp with us. 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.840 But man, that love that we showed them, and their 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.200 father they loved and sometimes he had to be the 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.199 tough look. But they're respected it though. Man. You know. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.200 And once you show them to love them and you 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.800 clonel for him, and you show them how to eat, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.720 you show them how to because I would take the 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.080 kids to to the house, man, I will show them 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.880 how to how to change brakes, how to change starters 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.280 on cars. Now, I mean he's a twelve thirteen year 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.560 old boys, man, and they gravitated to it. But you 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.080 just gotta show them that you love them though. Man. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.840 They'll listen to you. You're right, You're right. And I 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.080 was I was just gonna touch on that I've been 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.160 thinking and wanting to do this for a long time. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.080 Just just get a lot and get some of the 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.760 guys that I know that certified and breaks and all 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.480 of that, and how the kids come buy breaks for 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:51.520 the for their mom's car, whatever. And let them help 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.080