Speaker 1: Hey, James Still and eight, I need you to tell
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Speaker 1: like to welcome everyone to another episode of the Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast. And I have my homeboys, but Jake Tonight, Man,
Speaker 1: we have some special individuals man coming from the Fort
Speaker 1: Worth area. Man. We have Mr Jesse Taylor, politician man
Speaker 1: for Tarran fort Worth, Texas man pretty much running the
Speaker 1: show down there. And we have our homeboys, the man
Speaker 1: around town, the Mother of the South Charleston Blue. What's
Speaker 1: going on us doing? Dallas area has a huge gang
Speaker 1: problem down there, and I know you guys are pretty
Speaker 1: much the after key to the study. You know, help
Speaker 1: a lot of different people in different situations. So when
Speaker 1: we still, well, we we actually started with the juvenile system, man. Uh.
Speaker 1: From the juvenile system, Uh, we kind of transcended into
Speaker 1: the doge prison system man, where I would teach classes
Speaker 1: uh at the Central Parole Office, the main parole officer
Speaker 1: in Tarron County. So every brother, at least from sixteen,
Speaker 1: whenever they got out of prison, it was mandatory that
Speaker 1: they would have to come to my class every Tuesday
Speaker 1: and Thursday. Uh. Me and Mr Taylor would go inside
Speaker 1: the juvenile system man and and connect with the young
Speaker 1: killers on the inside where they go to prison or not.
Speaker 1: We haven't already made the connection on the inside. So
Speaker 1: when they transition back to the re entry part of
Speaker 1: coming back into our society, we're there to able to
Speaker 1: provide alternatives and resources, man, when they make the transition
Speaker 1: from lock up to back the free world. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so pretty much you to bridge for those guys. We
Speaker 1: we we try to be man uh uh for black
Speaker 1: children right now. Not not that we don't with all children,
Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of resources for our children
Speaker 1: when they come back to our communities. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of resources for the adults, but man, they don't have
Speaker 1: the support system to be able to access the resources.
Speaker 1: Right the bus fare money that the gas money, uh,
Speaker 1: the comfort of being able to sleep somewhere, uh, peacefully
Speaker 1: without the stress of having to go out and take
Speaker 1: penitentiary chance to just to bring some money and to
Speaker 1: feed the family. Man. So we try to help connect
Speaker 1: the adults as well as the juveniles to the resources
Speaker 1: in the communities from the connection that we have. So
Speaker 1: he got into the politic game. Man. So he worked
Speaker 1: more as a national delegate. Uh, he's sit down more
Speaker 1: with your your U S congressman, your state congressman. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's either been uh he's been in close proximity with
Speaker 1: the president for the last four years and actually dealing
Speaker 1: and working directly with President Trump man to get certain
Speaker 1: laws of bodised and passed in this country. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: So you guys are pretty much Briggs just from the youth,
Speaker 1: so they could transition out, Yes, sir, yes, sir. Um
Speaker 1: and Charleston he's being modest though, man. But Charles Charleston
Speaker 1: created programs that we that we actually talk inside the
Speaker 1: halfway houses for these kids. Um. They had like an
Speaker 1: eight week course that he would actually go inside man
Speaker 1: and and try to transform these uh, these young these
Speaker 1: young guys. Man. So I tipped my hat off to
Speaker 1: him though, man for for him to go inside and
Speaker 1: and create programs to help these young kids out. Man,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do nothing but but jump on board and
Speaker 1: try to help him out with that now. But during that,
Speaker 1: during that process of him creating a program, man he
Speaker 1: at the end of this this course just a curriculum. Uh,
Speaker 1: we've supposed to been teaching of UM showing a movie
Speaker 1: UM ministers society and the white folks want to let
Speaker 1: us play the movie. And Ms Charleson got mad because
Speaker 1: it was approved by the state. So I asked him
Speaker 1: and said, what we gotta do to uh to baby
Speaker 1: show this movie. They said, well, you gotta change the policy.
Speaker 1: But how we changed the said this time, I don't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the politics at allice UM, but like,
Speaker 1: you gotta change the policies. So I figured out what
Speaker 1: I had to do to go change the policies. And
Speaker 1: you had to miss with politicians to change the policies.
Speaker 1: So it went from showing a movie to me being
Speaker 1: able to be elected, from being a presecture to being
Speaker 1: a state delegate to being elected on the Tech of
Speaker 1: State Criminity Legislative Board member and also UM I was
Speaker 1: this year I was nominated as a national delegated sire
Speaker 1: UM is like like, what's going on with the electoral
Speaker 1: College votes? Well one of those PaperWorks got my signature
Speaker 1: on it and Mr Charleston paperwork on it also. So
Speaker 1: all that went from just trying to still a movie
Speaker 1: to where we are today. Oh whilst you guys just
Speaker 1: became the change that you wanted to see. Yes, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: yes sir, and and and and the bridge that goat
Speaker 1: because like politician, but I'm a politician in the Republican
Speaker 1: Party now. And that's another thing I can kind of
Speaker 1: give a piggy back with you, Mr Charleston on um.
Speaker 1: He forced me to do my homework on on on
Speaker 1: politicians because I was a great up Democrats like pretty
Speaker 1: much everybody else was. You know, you couldn't say nothing
Speaker 1: to me about no Republican at all. But once i
Speaker 1: started doing my homework and my research, and I've seen
Speaker 1: the way the nation was headed, you know where the
Speaker 1: where the Democrats was headed, you know, um, forwards towards
Speaker 1: that you know, masculinity of of of young men, young
Speaker 1: black men. I was like, when that ain't that's not
Speaker 1: what That's not what I was brought up to be.
Speaker 1: And so I switched, man, I I switched. And Um.
Speaker 1: From from that point on, you know, I've been doing
Speaker 1: my thing, you know, trying to change lots. They have
Speaker 1: one law here to Texas, man called house bill for
Speaker 1: yourself and this is this about this house to be
Speaker 1: around here was Man, it had many guys with a
Speaker 1: driver license revoked. Um, they was changing us twice on
Speaker 1: on the traffic chicken. But Man, I was able to
Speaker 1: go in. Man, we found out where the money was going.
Speaker 1: It wasn't going back to our community at all. Man.
Speaker 1: With me sitting on the resolution committee, I was able
Speaker 1: to write up a be a house bill for each other,
Speaker 1: like I said, many and it got passed and so
Speaker 1: everybody got all those search charges wiped off. So now
Speaker 1: the nigga don't go to jail for send niggas used
Speaker 1: to immediately go to jail from driving on suspended license
Speaker 1: because he got that bill passed through legislation to the state. Man,
Speaker 1: niggas can drive and leaving again. Look comfortably that God
Speaker 1: and what we do Man, I'm not doing it for myself. Man,
Speaker 1: I do it for the for the youngsters to see
Speaker 1: what we're doing. So that way, you know, they can
Speaker 1: have some some guidance along the way because we got
Speaker 1: to show them early, but we learned later and like, Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't on about no politics, So I'm giving him
Speaker 1: feeding all this to these young men. That what we're
Speaker 1: doing right now. So with this legislative session coming up,
Speaker 1: man uh uh. Surprisingly the Texas Republican parties of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party of Texas, they're pushing forth the bill or
Speaker 1: were they trying to stop niggas from going to jail
Speaker 1: on child support? So he's gonna be pushing that bill.
Speaker 1: Not only that, man, we were we're partnered with with
Speaker 1: with local lobbyists and other policy makers to try to
Speaker 1: get a bill that we're trying to push through this
Speaker 1: called raised the age with seventeen year old don't go
Speaker 1: to the printentiary in the county jails no more. So
Speaker 1: we're trying to raise the age of juvenile jurisdiction. Man,
Speaker 1: back up to Twente, where even if a nineteen year
Speaker 1: old nigga do something it's not too extreme and violent
Speaker 1: and violence that he can still remain in You have
Speaker 1: to remain in the juvenile system with his family court
Speaker 1: man and have a second chance of getting this record.
Speaker 1: Uh a sponge that twenty one man, So a lot
Speaker 1: of the ship that they said they're doing on Facebook. Man,
Speaker 1: that's just the that's the dolo my game. You know,
Speaker 1: the acting, and you know to make motherfuckers say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: look at this. But if a nigga can get past
Speaker 1: the act and really look at what I'm saying and
Speaker 1: then look at what the nigga really do in real life, uh,
Speaker 1: they'll see, Man, this for our people home exactly. And
Speaker 1: that's a perfect segue and it's something that I wanted
Speaker 1: to discuss today. Um, these young guys going to the
Speaker 1: penitentiary system. They're going to the penitentiary system. They're seventeen
Speaker 1: years old. They babies, They literally just younger than yeah. Man, Uh,
Speaker 1: most people don't know. Man. Up until sixteen, Uh, the
Speaker 1: United States, along with Sudan, and and and and and
Speaker 1: North Korea or was was three of the only countries
Speaker 1: who would take a twelve year old child man and
Speaker 1: sinished them to ju what they called juvenile life j
Speaker 1: L walk juvenile life without parole. Right, So men in
Speaker 1: Texas fourteen year old go to prison. And in California,
Speaker 1: I mean not California and Florida, nigga twelve year old
Speaker 1: can walk beyond the reck yard and Niga in Florida.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say no names because some
Speaker 1: things happened to this young individual while in prison. Uh
Speaker 1: for for a very very historical juvenile murder right him
Speaker 1: and his sister. But he was brutally raped in prison.
Speaker 1: Man as a baby, he was brutally raped. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of time man, Our little niggas
Speaker 1: as hard as seventeen and eighteen, but they are seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen heartened. Little street nigga. Don't compare a man to
Speaker 1: a year old hard and prisoner. So they are seventeen
Speaker 1: year old and eighteen year old. They might not go
Speaker 1: with the forty fifty year old nigga, but they go
Speaker 1: with the older year old prisoners. And they just as
Speaker 1: dangerous than anybody else. So that's where they put our
Speaker 1: kids amongst the most dangerous population of prisoners, and then
Speaker 1: expect for them to go in at such a young
Speaker 1: age and do right in order to make parole. Then
Speaker 1: the first thing the kid you gotta do in prisoners
Speaker 1: try to survive. He can't try to, he can't even
Speaker 1: go into rehabilitate mode. He gotta try to survive. Most people,
Speaker 1: most people that send you to prison, ain't never been
Speaker 1: the prison, and they don't know or live the conditions
Speaker 1: of a of an inmate, so they have no clue.
Speaker 1: What what is about I've been to prison. I seen
Speaker 1: cash get raped in prison. I'm talking about the hardcore
Speaker 1: game members get raped in prison. So anybody is subject
Speaker 1: to be raped. I mean it is the rules and
Speaker 1: the guidelines. A prison is enough for especially a twelve
Speaker 1: year old that don't have the mind or the capacity
Speaker 1: of an adult to really survive. Don't know how to
Speaker 1: make that shape. Let let mask you behind me. So
Speaker 1: what as a as a youth developer and as someone
Speaker 1: who go off inside the juvenile detention center? What what
Speaker 1: do we tell the youth workers? What do we tell
Speaker 1: the parents? How how do you prepare a kid who
Speaker 1: don't belong in this environment? How do you how do
Speaker 1: you prepare him for that? Well, you came preparing him
Speaker 1: for that, because once he hear that door closed, now
Speaker 1: this is real life now and he's on survival mode.
Speaker 1: You came preparing for that. A twelve year old cannot
Speaker 1: go to a penitentiary and and and survive. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about without being raped, without being beaten, without being you know,
Speaker 1: getting his commissary jock in. You know, he's subject to
Speaker 1: be somebody bitch. You know what I'm saying, And it's
Speaker 1: sad to say. So what I'm saying is that people
Speaker 1: that haven't been to prison don't mind sending you to
Speaker 1: prison only because they don't got to go to prison
Speaker 1: and deal with the conditions or the image that's in prison.
Speaker 1: And why are we imprisoned Because you've got some murderers,
Speaker 1: some some guys that's raped drug You've got all different
Speaker 1: types of men in prison. So what you're doing today,
Speaker 1: which is something I want to do, is get them
Speaker 1: before they get to that point. And we don't have
Speaker 1: to discuss a twelve year old going to prison. See
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's what that's and go ahead, what
Speaker 1: what what you just said? Uh? In the justice system uh?
Speaker 1: And and in public safety law enforcement? Uh? Public safety?
Speaker 1: Right what you just said. I want to prevent them.
Speaker 1: So they have crime prevention and crime intervention programs. So
Speaker 1: that's where the money comes in. That's where the money
Speaker 1: comes into play. When when when you look at California's
Speaker 1: l A Police department, the album's got a billion dollar budget.
Speaker 1: They gotta billion the albums got a billion dollar budget.
Speaker 1: Those that's money that you give to a military, right,
Speaker 1: that's what you get to a military, a billion dollar budget,
Speaker 1: and out of that billion dollars is given to them
Speaker 1: on the public safety, crime prevention and crime intervention, half
Speaker 1: of that money is ours. But we don't know that.
Speaker 1: For one, we don't want to even funk with the
Speaker 1: police to go get the money. That money falls through
Speaker 1: under their umbrella and supposed to trinkle down to our
Speaker 1: programs are father The Father's program is supposed to have
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars out of that budget. When you
Speaker 1: look at the prison statistics, almost eighty five percent of
Speaker 1: prisoners convicted of a crime come from a followers home.
Speaker 1: Those are national statistics where we're gonna beat the kids. Man,
Speaker 1: at these facilities, I don't I don't care if it's
Speaker 1: a thousand kids out there, we're speaking to a hundred
Speaker 1: or a team. Man, it's always gonna be the same
Speaker 1: percentage of when I asked this question, how many of
Speaker 1: you got your fathers at home, it's gonna be one
Speaker 1: or two of them raising hand, and pretty much everybody
Speaker 1: else ain't got no dog and father at home. So
Speaker 1: what he said is right. That's that's the beginning of
Speaker 1: it right there. And we haven't we haven't created a system.
Speaker 1: So when we can go inside of a single parent
Speaker 1: home and and help that woman with a with a kid,
Speaker 1: yeah we don't do that. But exactly one one thing
Speaker 1: I need my sisters to do though, man, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate them the depth because they'd be doing the best
Speaker 1: they can do. But one thing they need to stop
Speaker 1: saying is their mother and daddy. Their mama and their dad,
Speaker 1: you know they be dead. Because what happens in some
Speaker 1: of these these correctional facilities, Man, I see it over
Speaker 1: it over the time and time again when these kids
Speaker 1: come out of there, When these kids come out and
Speaker 1: they go into the head with house and they're waiting
Speaker 1: on their mama's or their dad is grandmama's or somebody
Speaker 1: to pick them up in there, they're they're they're holding
Speaker 1: there for like five six months. But what happens is, man,
Speaker 1: they stayed there far most a year or so because
Speaker 1: why Mama don't even want them no more? Man, the
Speaker 1: same mama that don't say, hey, look mom, I'm dad,
Speaker 1: my mom daddy. No, you ain't daddy, You're not daddy,
Speaker 1: your mother. You know, you need people like you need
Speaker 1: people like myself, you know, to step in and you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, that program to go inside the house
Speaker 1: of that single parent mother. That's definitely what we need, man,
Speaker 1: and that's what we do. We do some of that also,
Speaker 1: man right now, So you all the money on that, man, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's our beginning as black man, to to figure
Speaker 1: out a way how to get to our younger brothers,
Speaker 1: because truth be told, sometimes you can't get across to
Speaker 1: that year old brother because he already set in his
Speaker 1: ways and you're talking about they think they know more
Speaker 1: than you do, which they don't. They don't know Jack
Speaker 1: Ship until the day they wind up in prison. And
Speaker 1: then they say, then they say this, just like I said,
Speaker 1: if I know what I know now, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: never took that road. But let's get them before that.
Speaker 1: Just say that you got to get these babies. Now.
Speaker 1: You can show niggas. You can give niggas a lot
Speaker 1: of examples and ships just like well, just like we
Speaker 1: was as as youngsters, we had to we have the
Speaker 1: mentality that you can't tell me nothing. That's the whole problem.
Speaker 1: A lot of young mentality that you can't tell me nothing.
Speaker 1: So all that ship, all that ship you're talking is good,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I hear you, and it worked for you.
Speaker 1: But nigga, I'm still on the block every fucking day
Speaker 1: and I'm still this and I'm still that, So that
Speaker 1: ship don't apply to me. And that's what the problem
Speaker 1: that we have is that a lot of young niggas
Speaker 1: don't want to listen to nothing that older or other
Speaker 1: niggas have been through. They just don't want to listen.
Speaker 1: So how so how do you change that mentality from
Speaker 1: a dude you're trying to get to change the ways
Speaker 1: and he deep off an it and he telling you,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing. You saying you show
Speaker 1: the naw you show that nigga how to fish. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you this is where, this is where we
Speaker 1: make mistakes that to even get you that point. First,
Speaker 1: we gotta stop call it the way we talked to
Speaker 1: each other. Cats want to hear that type of talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up, nigga, what's up? We gotta start respecting ourselves
Speaker 1: as black man. Once we start respecting ourselves and they
Speaker 1: see us with respect and care and respect to the quillets.
Speaker 1: Then they already know they're gonna come at you with
Speaker 1: straight respect because they see you you ain't giving nothing
Speaker 1: but respect. We talked ship to each other, and we
Speaker 1: we we talked bad about each other. I got the
Speaker 1: words for it. I was listening to a But it
Speaker 1: starts off with respect. We gotta respect and understand each
Speaker 1: other as black man. Well, I'm not gonna keep blaming
Speaker 1: what my father did to me. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: that be an excuse for me not to get to
Speaker 1: the next level. And we gotta understand that because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of us that grew up in the house
Speaker 1: without a father, and they gotta understand you can make
Speaker 1: it without a father. You as long as you've got
Speaker 1: positive black men in your life, you can make it.
Speaker 1: And this is through the program. You don't have to
Speaker 1: have that father figure in the household to do that.
Speaker 1: And if we can reach the young kids and let
Speaker 1: him understand that and teach them that it's a better
Speaker 1: way to dress, it's a better way to do, you know,
Speaker 1: to groom yourself. You know what I'm saying, father's your
Speaker 1: hair and all of that other stuff. We have to
Speaker 1: like really put our foot in it to get them
Speaker 1: to understand, because the younger generation today don't want to
Speaker 1: hear nothing. They want to see, They want to feel,
Speaker 1: They want to really know that I care. And just
Speaker 1: talking on the phone or just coming at them and
Speaker 1: the certain kind of way you gotta really be in
Speaker 1: their in their life. That's a program. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: let them know. And I think for the most part, man, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think our young people think the older people
Speaker 1: really care. Brother that's in the home, whether that's when
Speaker 1: they go to church, the preacher don't never have a
Speaker 1: message for the children is always for the adults. Uh.
Speaker 1: They really don't even have a voice other than what
Speaker 1: hip hop, what the hip hop platform give them. So
Speaker 1: as I'm sitting here listening to you talk, man, do
Speaker 1: our young people really know if we care or not.
Speaker 1: They don't. I don't think they do. They don't. Reinsurance,
Speaker 1: that's what we want. When we got a mom and
Speaker 1: our fathers in the household, we know they're there to
Speaker 1: protect this. That's reinsurance. But if I can get a
Speaker 1: brother on the street that come in this house with
Speaker 1: our absent father, and this man could come in and
Speaker 1: come pick me up and show me how to fish,
Speaker 1: show me how to hunt, and and he genuinely cared
Speaker 1: about me, not just drop in me off because of
Speaker 1: a check. Are picking me up and doing this for
Speaker 1: a check? No, I got you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's all they want to hear, is I got you. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what the big homie. That's what the big homie
Speaker 1: giving me. That that fatherless affirmation, that's what the that's
Speaker 1: what the big homie give me. And them boys looking
Speaker 1: for it. Them boys, they gravitate to it. Let's gravitate
Speaker 1: to it. Man, it really will if you're showing that
Speaker 1: love like you're talking about, man, gravitate to it. Man,
Speaker 1: they're really doing me and Mrs Chaules empty Men's men
Speaker 1: and Ms Charleson around a summer camp and around about
Speaker 1: maybe about three or four years about three or four
Speaker 1: years ago, Man, a guy um gave his club. But
Speaker 1: for us man to tell you true. Um, So we
Speaker 1: were doing the summertime. Man, we closed the whole club.
Speaker 1: Now Man, we had the kids coming over the one
Speaker 1: the daytime. Man feed the kids breathless lunch and a halftime.
Speaker 1: They took the food home for dinner to feed the
Speaker 1: families and everything though, man. But what I did was
Speaker 1: when we showed them, man, we just showed them boys
Speaker 1: love man. And then all these boys was was across
Speaker 1: the street at the projects. I mean the projects are
Speaker 1: the directly cross the streets. So they just walked over
Speaker 1: to the club and had these some camp with us.
Speaker 1: But man, that love that we showed them, and their
Speaker 1: father they loved and sometimes he had to be the
Speaker 1: tough look. But they're respected it though. Man. You know.
Speaker 1: And once you show them to love them and you
Speaker 1: clonel for him, and you show them how to eat,
Speaker 1: you show them how to because I would take the
Speaker 1: kids to to the house, man, I will show them
Speaker 1: how to how to change brakes, how to change starters
Speaker 1: on cars. Now, I mean he's a twelve thirteen year
Speaker 1: old boys, man, and they gravitated to it. But you
Speaker 1: just gotta show them that you love them though. Man.
Speaker 1: They'll listen to you. You're right, You're right. And I
Speaker 1: was I was just gonna touch on that I've been
Speaker 1: thinking and wanting to do this for a long time.
Speaker 1: Just just get a lot and get some of the
Speaker 1: guys that I know that certified and breaks and all
Speaker 1: of that, and how the kids come buy breaks for
Speaker 1: the for their mom's car, whatever. And let them help
Speaker 1: fix those brakes, let them learn how to change the battery. Uh,
Speaker 1: do anything, you know, I got friends that anything just
Speaker 1: to get them, let them learn something, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So and and and it goes, it goes
Speaker 1: a long way. And man, I commend with y'all doing.
Speaker 1: And I wish we had that out here like that
Speaker 1: where we can just actually get into the politics. We're
Speaker 1: braging into you. We we we were bragging into you.
Speaker 1: What what what we're doing? Uh, it's like we're gonna
Speaker 1: barter right. Uh, there's a lot of resources that we
Speaker 1: offer to two guys in California homey. Texas is a
Speaker 1: fatherly friendly state. So we're trying to create an underground railroad.
Speaker 1: But we got jobs. Niggas in California can't get down here, Hume.
Speaker 1: So hey, man, y'all niggas ain't got nothing to do. Man, say,
Speaker 1: we got some nigga that a high y'all down here
Speaker 1: with the murderications nigga General Motors, Bell helicopter like Keeed Martin, say,
Speaker 1: man toward deep people, hard killers. Man, you didn't come
Speaker 1: down here and get a dog and we will help
Speaker 1: assist y'all while y'all get along the way, saying with
Speaker 1: y'all got some gang programs from gang intervention and prevention
Speaker 1: program that can benefit here, and you guys can come
Speaker 1: down here and facilitate those programs and get money from us,
Speaker 1: from our county officials to come facilitate those programs. So
Speaker 1: we're trying to open up underground railroad of exchange of resources, man,
Speaker 1: for the community. So the program that you're asking for
Speaker 1: is being created through the Fathers, the Father's Program, which
Speaker 1: is coming to California, you know, Baba uncle Henny Man.
Speaker 1: So we're just trying to get all the the statistics,
Speaker 1: the numbers, get the data, uh, and get the research.
Speaker 1: So when we present it, man, we got all our
Speaker 1: eyes dotted in the tea's cross. Or are we bringing
Speaker 1: some news right now, Charles? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're breaking
Speaker 1: some news, man, uh, Hendy noted man. So we got
Speaker 1: the father of the Father's Program. Man, it's it's coming
Speaker 1: to California, you know, and that's going to be um,
Speaker 1: you know, through Uncle hen that Father's the Father's Program
Speaker 1: is gonna be you know, facilitated through James myself and eight.
Speaker 1: Because you know three figures. UM eight is very active
Speaker 1: in the community. He don't brag onto a lot. He's
Speaker 1: you know, out there messing with the youth. He's a
Speaker 1: grounds here with the youth. He choots the coach football,
Speaker 1: you know, he shoot the football, you know the football.
Speaker 1: Very passionate about it, um And it's something that I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to, and I know James and James alluded
Speaker 1: to earlier. He's looking forward to doing stuff like that
Speaker 1: because we have to become proactive as black men in
Speaker 1: our community and we have to stop waiting all the
Speaker 1: time for that come and help me. Because I kind
Speaker 1: of feel the same way my man was speaking earlier
Speaker 1: was about the Democratic Party. That party teaches us to
Speaker 1: be co dependent on people to set up and just
Speaker 1: wait to set up and get you know, wait on
Speaker 1: the welfare check or uh some kind of check every month.
Speaker 1: We're waiting for somebody to come and help us. But
Speaker 1: the only people that can help us as us us. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what one thing I want to shave man.
Speaker 1: We have to look at the world and the way
Speaker 1: the world is today. I'm looking at this at the
Speaker 1: news and I see all these people at the Capitol,
Speaker 1: but Donald Trump if that was black people, this is
Speaker 1: this is just my point of view. If that was
Speaker 1: black people, all hell would have broke loose. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: where's the dogs, where's the gas, the tear gas? Where's
Speaker 1: the military, where's the police knocking them down? Get the
Speaker 1: funk off my off this line. If we don't see
Speaker 1: what the world is becoming, then we we we're wasting
Speaker 1: our time as black man. Because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we lost already if if you really look
Speaker 1: at it, we already at a loss. So the way
Speaker 1: that we are treated, in the way that other people
Speaker 1: are treated, we really have to pay attention. This is
Speaker 1: why I really want a change, for us to change,
Speaker 1: for us to see change, because if we don't do it,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it for us. We gotta do
Speaker 1: it well. This is this is the perfect time for
Speaker 1: us to get it together. But why they're fighting each other. Never,
Speaker 1: never in our lifetime, never in our lifetime, have we
Speaker 1: seen the white boy fight the white boy like there
Speaker 1: last time they fought each other like this, this was
Speaker 1: over us and they were mad the motherfucker. But by
Speaker 1: the albumst wiped out their country right that was the
Speaker 1: Civil War. So now here it is. They're back at
Speaker 1: this same problem again. But this don't have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with us. This fight isn't about us. This fight
Speaker 1: is about all the other foreugners that they have let
Speaker 1: coming to their country, who don't speak their language, who
Speaker 1: don't eat at their restaurants, who don't depend on them.
Speaker 1: So this had nothing. So this is the perfect time
Speaker 1: for us to let them kill each other. I let
Speaker 1: them take over the White House and come getting our
Speaker 1: stuff together. By time they look up, we might haven't
Speaker 1: got our nation fix. They losing their nation. They right
Speaker 1: now we're watching them lose their nation. So now we
Speaker 1: can't say, man, they got they focused on us. They can't.
Speaker 1: They ain't got time to focus on us now. So
Speaker 1: now this time for us to put it out their
Speaker 1: politics and man go to fixing on what we can fix.
Speaker 1: And by time they look up, man, we don't got
Speaker 1: a little stronger and we can stick our chest out
Speaker 1: and say, hey, these are our demands and we stand
Speaker 1: on what we demand. Right. I follow that exactly. It
Speaker 1: has to be that way, because I honestly feel like this.
Speaker 1: You know, we have all of these people that sit
Speaker 1: up in these offices and these places, and they write
Speaker 1: this programming. Right, they write this program and to tell
Speaker 1: us what they think that what they think our children
Speaker 1: need and what our communities need. The only ones that
Speaker 1: can heal our community and thoroughly go through there is us.
Speaker 1: We have to go through there, people like James McDonald's,
Speaker 1: people like yourself, Charles. Because Charles, let let's go back
Speaker 1: Charleston for the record. You spend time in the penitentiary system. Correct.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean I went to do and I'm
Speaker 1: i'm I'm I'm a steak baby, I'm gonna that. That's
Speaker 1: what I meant to say that you've spent telling Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I left, I was the longest kid locked up
Speaker 1: in t y C. What was that for? For the
Speaker 1: people that don't know, for murder? We killed the white
Speaker 1: man in the South. Yeah, in the South. I want
Speaker 1: the only niggas I know there's alive right now today
Speaker 1: and say, man, I've done time for killing the white man.
Speaker 1: Most niggas killed niggas and they're proud of it. Look,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this man, because you know it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be reformed, right, You're supposed to go to
Speaker 1: prison and jail to get reformed, to get yourself right.
Speaker 1: And get ready to go acclimate, to go out and
Speaker 1: become a productive member of society. When you say that
Speaker 1: your time spent in the chive in our system helps
Speaker 1: you or hurt you, it helped me, help me. It
Speaker 1: was uh, keep in mind I called a murder caatione.
Speaker 1: Prior to that, outside of California, that was no such
Speaker 1: thing as a kid of killing. You nigga started in California,
Speaker 1: you'all start killing in seventy two. I think the Balue
Speaker 1: murders right outside of that, it wasn't black black children
Speaker 1: wasn't committing murder around the country. So almost twenty years later,
Speaker 1: after California, juvenile started killing late eighties nineties, Texas created
Speaker 1: this juvenile the terms just this juvenile law is called
Speaker 1: Texas juvenile the term of sentencing law where a kid
Speaker 1: could be sentenced up to forty years for committing violent
Speaker 1: crimes such as capital murder, murder, attempted capital murder, aggravated
Speaker 1: sexual assault. So I went into a juvenile system when
Speaker 1: we had a governor by the name of and Richards.
Speaker 1: And Richards was a recovering alcoholic and recovering drug at it,
Speaker 1: and so a lot of her, a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and the policy that she had in the early nineties
Speaker 1: was geared towards not just rehabilitation, but resocialization. Now noticed
Speaker 1: I said rehabilitation and re socialization with two different things
Speaker 1: in two different terms. Resocialization is teaching you when you
Speaker 1: walk up to somebody, instead of taking they toyed, you
Speaker 1: say can I play with that? Well, most black children
Speaker 1: don't know you have to ask. They say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: let me see that, and they take it from you,
Speaker 1: and if you can't whoop them, you can't ever get
Speaker 1: it back. There's not mostly was socialized like that. Most
Speaker 1: people when you give them something, they wasn't talked to
Speaker 1: say thank you. So resocialization take you back to how
Speaker 1: you're being resocialized. So I literally grew up in a
Speaker 1: in a system home that gave us all the tools
Speaker 1: and all the skills and all the things necessary for
Speaker 1: us to come out here and be successful. So this
Speaker 1: is the product of what I'm a product of a
Speaker 1: juvenile system articulation. I was able to go to college
Speaker 1: and excel. Uh Man, my childhood issues were resolved. We
Speaker 1: had some of the best psychiatrist, some of the world's
Speaker 1: best psychologists. Uh We was co ed so it was
Speaker 1: boys and girls. We had an in ground swimming pool,
Speaker 1: We had off campus jobs. We can take college courses
Speaker 1: off campus, we had weekend passes. So I was really uh,
Speaker 1: I grew up in and more like a boarding school,
Speaker 1: but we were just you know, child merdles real. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this question. I kind of want.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not kind of woman. Go ahead, cause
Speaker 1: I think we gotta de ley go ahead, you gotta yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: you gott you gotta go here. Okay, what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say it was I want to go to James. Now,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna come to you. Eight ate. You did
Speaker 1: time in jail, right, yeah, a little bit. You did
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, So I won't really ask
Speaker 1: you this. This is the question work here for James. James,
Speaker 1: but you say that your time in the penitentiary system
Speaker 1: actually help you. The only thing to Vina Ginger dropped
Speaker 1: me is I didn't want to go back to the
Speaker 1: motherfuck and that that's that's for most nigger from from
Speaker 1: from our way like that. It does us that we
Speaker 1: don't want to go back to fucking jail. That's what
Speaker 1: going to jail. Are going to the pends. It teaches you,
Speaker 1: It teaches you. Now don't want to come back, and
Speaker 1: this motherfucker that's it, So I gotta do something differently. Well,
Speaker 1: I paid attention to the fifteen fourteen cent work in
Speaker 1: the yard. I paid attention too, you know, you basically
Speaker 1: a slave, and that motherfucker I paid attention to, you know,
Speaker 1: being told what to do when to do it. And
Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass man. Those those I didn't want
Speaker 1: to live like that. Uh you know, the majority of
Speaker 1: the people that was on the street that I ran
Speaker 1: into that were that that hardcore wasn't as hard hardcore
Speaker 1: in prison, and and it was like, what the funk
Speaker 1: am I here for? I'm when I get out, I'm
Speaker 1: not coming back. So getting out of prison, I had
Speaker 1: to prove a point to not only my mother, uh
Speaker 1: my baby mama's, you know, everybody that said I was
Speaker 1: going back. I had to show them I ain't going
Speaker 1: back to prison. And and then the motherfucker but the knife.
Speaker 1: You make a knife and you walk around with it
Speaker 1: all day just to keep the motherfuck off your ass.
Speaker 1: So I used all of that to say, I'm not
Speaker 1: coming back to this motherfucker no more. It wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1: It was a waste of time of my life. And
Speaker 1: I was better off on the street and then setting
Speaker 1: up in that motherfucker in the top romin and you know,
Speaker 1: smoking camera cigarettes. So some of the ship I can't
Speaker 1: some of the habits I had in there, I can't
Speaker 1: get rid of them. I've been out of prison this
Speaker 1: and I'm good, you know. So it taught me something,
Speaker 1: But it taught me what I wanted to know or
Speaker 1: or gave me the reasons why I didn't want to
Speaker 1: come back. And I did that. Yeah. Well, one thing
Speaker 1: that tripped me out about Charleston Man used to hearing
Speaker 1: when he was speaking, and he would tell me some
Speaker 1: young men they actually wanted to go to prison because
Speaker 1: they wanted to slider by their manhood by going to prison. It.
Speaker 1: I want to help me. I was a young nigga.
Speaker 1: I inspired. I inspired to get to me a prison
Speaker 1: yard and walk down there and do all that ship
Speaker 1: that I heard uncle uncle curtis bragging. Nov I wanted
Speaker 1: to go make some nigga wash my draws too. Uh Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to hold a cigarette behind my earra. I
Speaker 1: wanted the road a cigarette pack up in my sleeve.
Speaker 1: Because it was propagated to me that way, right, uh
Speaker 1: nigga from I saw all the penitentiary movies with Too
Speaker 1: Sweet or The Midnight Though. Man, I saw all that ship.
Speaker 1: Uh So, Man, when I was in the six and
Speaker 1: seven grade and recess, me and my little fellas were
Speaker 1: practicing prison. We were talking about what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: how we would go walk. Uh So, now, man, I
Speaker 1: inspired to go to prison. I just didn't know they
Speaker 1: could keep you forever. Because I've seen Uncle Curtains go.
Speaker 1: He'd be gone for three or four months, come out
Speaker 1: on Wayne and go for a little while. So I
Speaker 1: thought you could come and go kind of as you please.
Speaker 1: As as a kid, I didn't know they keep you
Speaker 1: for us home a long time. I don't do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So as I started getting older, oh as I started
Speaker 1: getting older men, and I say this, I say this
Speaker 1: with a I can't say. I'm ashamous said, but is man,
Speaker 1: it's pitiful that I it's a part of me that
Speaker 1: feel like I missed out on some of them because
Speaker 1: I didn't go to prison. I haven't done everything out
Speaker 1: here in these streets home, and I can sell and
Speaker 1: done this and I got but say when I get
Speaker 1: around certain niggas. I can't talk ton of tankly talk,
Speaker 1: and I feel loved out sometimes sometimes when I'll be
Speaker 1: looking at on, hold on, let me send some time
Speaker 1: when I'll be looking at your motherfucking nigga sending them
Speaker 1: pictures home for prison from them Feds, and I'll be
Speaker 1: looking at them, nigga, the nigga stands the body language
Speaker 1: and then just the camaradderie homie that that picture gives off. Man,
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of that home that
Speaker 1: shouldn't look good? Man? I want, man, I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that prison ship, my nigga. So
Speaker 1: I see how it can be so appealing to the
Speaker 1: young niggas, because at forty three years old, I feel
Speaker 1: like I missed stating. So what the hell do we
Speaker 1: say to young boys thinking like that? Think? What would
Speaker 1: we say to them? Young boys like that? Man they're
Speaker 1: thinking like that. You tell him this, You tell him
Speaker 1: everything that looked like his gold ain't gold. That's food,
Speaker 1: because you know what happens, just like myself. Going to
Speaker 1: the county jail is to start you. You better be
Speaker 1: a gladiator going to the county jail in California. You're
Speaker 1: going that gang module. You have to do what you
Speaker 1: have to do. It prepares you for prison. If you
Speaker 1: don't make it in the county jail, you damn sure
Speaker 1: ain't gonna make it in prison. And a lot of cats,
Speaker 1: just like you said, I want to go to prison
Speaker 1: because they the homies went to prison, but some of
Speaker 1: them and they don't realize going to prison, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be like the big homie. Yeah, yeah, you ain't
Speaker 1: known like him. So your prison days is gonna be
Speaker 1: lived way harder than where he had to live. In prison.
Speaker 1: Your survival move is gonna have to be on a
Speaker 1: opposed to mind being at the sixty. So it ain't
Speaker 1: what you think it is. It's when you get in
Speaker 1: there you really see what prison is is either gonna
Speaker 1: build you or break you down. And I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of kids really really immaturity is like not being taught,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like you said, a lot
Speaker 1: of dudes and grow up with fathers and the homes,
Speaker 1: you know, so, uh, it was the status. A lot
Speaker 1: of us joined the gangs as young dudes, so our
Speaker 1: role models was the O G S who was in prison.
Speaker 1: So basically a lot of cats were, you know, had
Speaker 1: that feeling of of prison authenticated them. You feel met
Speaker 1: solidified my status by going to prison, of going to
Speaker 1: y E back then. You know, so trying to tell
Speaker 1: like I said again, in some aspects, it's just like
Speaker 1: you know, um with with the music or with any
Speaker 1: influence that we have as youngsters. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: when we don't have those role models present, you get me. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't grow up with a father and
Speaker 1: the home. I talked to my father every day almost
Speaker 1: you know, he lived in Oklahoma, moved to Oklahoma to
Speaker 1: go to work for General Motors. You know, I grew
Speaker 1: up in a home with just moms and my sister.
Speaker 1: It was gang banging everywhere, So I felt like I
Speaker 1: had the gang bang you get me. I don't have
Speaker 1: the I didn't feel like we had the family backbone
Speaker 1: structure that uh, So to speak, I could survive in
Speaker 1: South Central just being a regular motherfucker. You get me. Uh,
Speaker 1: I had to join the game, so uh to change
Speaker 1: that influence would probably have been somebody to tell me, O, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: going to prison ain't fun. Like it might look fun,
Speaker 1: but it ain't fun. But out of us as youths
Speaker 1: don't or didn't have those dudes to tell us you
Speaker 1: don't want to go to prison, you get me, Uh,
Speaker 1: stay in school, you know, try to maintain, get you
Speaker 1: a job or whatever. We didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: that because a lot of us, you know, single file,
Speaker 1: single mothers, you know Fithers was out on drugs somewhere,
Speaker 1: just didn't give a damn so uh to try to
Speaker 1: change the influence of telling dudes, hey, I know you
Speaker 1: see it on TV, or you might hear it in
Speaker 1: one of my rap songs, or you might see so
Speaker 1: and so glorified the status, but prison ain't the way
Speaker 1: to go. Um my my. I sometimes question that too,
Speaker 1: to see what can change the minds of some of
Speaker 1: these young dudes who were influenced by just whatever it
Speaker 1: is negative you get me. They feel like you said,
Speaker 1: should I feel like I missed out when I look
Speaker 1: at prison pictures and see niggas in the holes is
Speaker 1: and they all clicked up, and the homies all whatever,
Speaker 1: and then niggas be trying model. I did fire the
Speaker 1: ten or I walked this yard or I walked that yard,
Speaker 1: and we did this, and we did that, and you
Speaker 1: don't have no teals of that. So some dudes feel
Speaker 1: like I got my doctor go through that program to
Speaker 1: authenticate myself. You feel me, yeah, and and and and man.
Speaker 1: The the thing I'm sitting her listening to you guys talk, man,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting her saying, men, at all the motherfucking
Speaker 1: prison stories I heard. It wasn't until I got grown
Speaker 1: and I actually heard something bad about prison all the see,
Speaker 1: we really Uncle Curtis really wasn't no street nigga. Man,
Speaker 1: he laid up on I ain't being got high. He
Speaker 1: was the dope finguh. Uncle Wayne. Uncle Wayne was the
Speaker 1: pimp nigga who got off on dope. So I didn't
Speaker 1: get to see the real give niggers. Who would who
Speaker 1: would come tell me Uncle Uncle curtin nigga telling me
Speaker 1: we had a nigga Washington growls. If I really look
Speaker 1: at my things back, he really telling me what you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. He was young, So most of
Speaker 1: the niggas that's hearing about prison, being and exposed to
Speaker 1: prison or even the streets is really getting it from
Speaker 1: a weenie nigga. And he and the weenie nigga to
Speaker 1: make the ship sound like they were niggas, and it's
Speaker 1: an easy cake walk. So we think it's an easy
Speaker 1: cake walk getting a second hand information from these niggas, right,
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm when you hear me say, man,
Speaker 1: niggas them tricked? Does so? Now the young niggas is
Speaker 1: being tricked. And to think about them being tricked compared
Speaker 1: to us, Homie, they don't give second chances no more, Nigga,
Speaker 1: we got a chance to come home before thirty and forty.
Speaker 1: These young niggas who shoot them guns, now, Homie, they
Speaker 1: down there guaranteed to be locked up to their forty
Speaker 1: when the eighteen nineteen because the whole objective of the
Speaker 1: criminal justice system is to take you and put you
Speaker 1: away during what they call your prime crime years. It
Speaker 1: used to be fifteen and twenty five. They figured you'd
Speaker 1: be twenty five. You good. Now nigga gets twelve to
Speaker 1: forty For the young nigga, they're gonna keep them the
Speaker 1: fifty because they think if they are really super predators,
Speaker 1: so they ain't letting them nicks come home today almore
Speaker 1: fifty from the charges that they're making today at eighteen
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty. So that's why I believe gangster chronicles. Uh.
Speaker 1: In this podcast, man, and not just with this podcast.
Speaker 1: You guys coming down off into the communities are walking
Speaker 1: that path of redemption and try to undo some of
Speaker 1: the wrongs so they can get the full story and
Speaker 1: and see these real life action figures, uh who the
Speaker 1: rappers rapped by, and they can get the hotel in
Speaker 1: in in real life. They're not getting it in the movies.
Speaker 1: They're not getting it on wax, they're not getting it
Speaker 1: in the house, they're not getting it in the streets.
Speaker 1: So it's it's up to those of us who who
Speaker 1: who've made it out overcame went through and are now
Speaker 1: doing to go back man, and and undo some things.
Speaker 1: And the only way you can't do that, that's just
Speaker 1: about telling the truth. I'm sitting here and listening to
Speaker 1: y'all talk, man, Ain't they can tell me nothing bad
Speaker 1: about prison to even make me not reconsidered to go,
Speaker 1: m Yeah, what the thing is? It takes a real person,
Speaker 1: see a person that really cared about you gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the real I had two uncles that came up
Speaker 1: in the penitemporary system. And that's the reason why I
Speaker 1: can probably say I ain't never done no prison time,
Speaker 1: you know. But it was because it was because I
Speaker 1: had uncles who was in that prison system, and they
Speaker 1: used to tell me, like, you know, that's not a
Speaker 1: place that you want to go, because let me say that, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't doe you was James. Hey, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you. A lot of gas went to prison
Speaker 1: just to get the buzine niggas one of the live
Speaker 1: weights because the big homie or the homie came out,
Speaker 1: showed and they went to prison. But they found out
Speaker 1: when they got there that no, motherfucker, this ain't no
Speaker 1: motherfucking l a fitting. It's coming up in here, mother
Speaker 1: live with liable to not make it. You're not. You
Speaker 1: might you might get some waste dropped on your head.
Speaker 1: You might have somebody coming and and poke your as
Speaker 1: because you don't there some file on the streets and
Speaker 1: that paperwork came in there. So you had a lot
Speaker 1: of cats trying to get the physique but didn't make it.
Speaker 1: You had a lot of cats that coming in and
Speaker 1: thought they was gonna be this type of person, but
Speaker 1: wind up during the majority of their time and a
Speaker 1: hole and a little bit of your ass. Sell ain't
Speaker 1: no walking around no nothing. They let you out when
Speaker 1: they want to that hour a day. A lot of
Speaker 1: people broke behind that ship. They couldn't sit in the
Speaker 1: selle twenty three hours a day and talk to their selves.
Speaker 1: So a lot of motherfucker's doesn't understand prison until they
Speaker 1: got there. And now your asses broke down. Now you're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this ship? Now you got listen
Speaker 1: to me. Now you got five big old your motherfucker's
Speaker 1: coming at you and raping ebody on in one leg.
Speaker 1: And and now they they're spreading jelly on your booty
Speaker 1: and talking about for that ship. Yeah your ass why.
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of these cats they learned
Speaker 1: their lessons. They don't want to go to you feel
Speaker 1: You heard them stories and was like, fuck, no, huh,
Speaker 1: I'm not going no prison ni jelly on the nig
Speaker 1: asshole I've got going on. Pri Hey, motherfucker's was getting
Speaker 1: was straight getting jelly. And you can tell who the
Speaker 1: booty vantage was got more like fuck that ship. I
Speaker 1: heard stories like that for my uncle's and I was like, hell, dog,
Speaker 1: that's a trip. I am not going to be taken.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give your one true story and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make it quick. I got a homeboy named Smiley, been
Speaker 1: in the penitentric this nineteen seventy four for murder every
Speaker 1: all the homies that he knew that was coming in there,
Speaker 1: besides the ones that he knew it was bona fide.
Speaker 1: He sucked them. When when the motherfucker, when the motherfucker
Speaker 1: got when the mother Yeah, that's how he was breaking
Speaker 1: it down and keeping it in the hood. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: called breaking it down and keeping you in the hood.
Speaker 1: So this dude, the police would get him. Anytime a
Speaker 1: motherfucker like pisched the police off, they would put them,
Speaker 1: put that person in his cell, and and Smiley would
Speaker 1: go to work on that ass. He don't got a
Speaker 1: problem telling you. Yeah, fun niggers, he tell you, I
Speaker 1: don't got a problem with it. If you're coming this
Speaker 1: motherfucking you, ain't you ain't the homie or the homie
Speaker 1: I know, nigger, your little ass's mind. And he was sucking.
Speaker 1: He broke a whole lot of homies down by just
Speaker 1: winding up in the same prison with this nigga. So
Speaker 1: you have predators inside of prison that that don't listen.
Speaker 1: The little niggas, the little niggas go on prison looking
Speaker 1: for the big homie, say I'm such and such, and
Speaker 1: he'll play on them kind of young niggas. Come on
Speaker 1: in there, gentlemen, to put you in my shell. And
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you're here howling and ship
Speaker 1: nigga holland and and and broke his fingernails in that
Speaker 1: in that still door, the knock, the play off, that
Speaker 1: motherfucker trying to get out of there. But them niggas been,
Speaker 1: them niggas been in up seventy fold of stretch. They
Speaker 1: dick the eighteen inches long, putting on that mothfa and
Speaker 1: they dropping that dick off in your back, say say
Speaker 1: we got tell ya true man, Yeah, God damn remembers
Speaker 1: the stories that I heard. So then was the stories
Speaker 1: I heard how Jamie's broke it down. That's how I
Speaker 1: heard nothing new because my uncle Steve, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what a lot of these niggas don't tell you
Speaker 1: a lot of niggas see what happens in the hood.
Speaker 1: These cats go to the prison, right and they go
Speaker 1: to prison, they get they either become a Muslim, and
Speaker 1: ain't not wrong with that. Some of them is authentic
Speaker 1: with them some lilimes. They become a Muslim, they become
Speaker 1: a Christian, or they joined one of them groups, or
Speaker 1: I don't want my problems. That's gonna do my time.
Speaker 1: So they do their live two years or three years
Speaker 1: like that, hiding right, and they come home like I
Speaker 1: was this big nigke of walking around the yard. But
Speaker 1: you hear the truth. The truth eventually always comes out. Hey,
Speaker 1: yeah all, you all, y'all have to do. It's looked at.
Speaker 1: We can. We can bleep his name out when we
Speaker 1: can edit this part. Look him up on the internet
Speaker 1: and you're gonna come up booty bandit, and you'll be
Speaker 1: surprised at the things he did. And these kids need
Speaker 1: to learn and understand. Just because you think you hard,
Speaker 1: it's somebody harder than your ass. And when you go
Speaker 1: to prison, you're gonna run into that motherfucker that's harder
Speaker 1: than you, that got them squabbles at sixty five years old.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker's been in jail twenty thirty years. They didn't shape,
Speaker 1: they're ready. You're going there with that little attitude you
Speaker 1: had on the street and get tapped, because if they
Speaker 1: knocked y'all, they're gonna fu some of them. So it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate or it's unfortunate that we got you know still
Speaker 1: because you know, we all were young men at one
Speaker 1: point in time, so you know how our mentalities was.
Speaker 1: You know, James, you when you was banging, uh, you
Speaker 1: know my mentality as a youngster, you know, joining the
Speaker 1: gang or whatever. But you know, and I could say
Speaker 1: it was a lot of the times it was trying
Speaker 1: to be uh belonged to something, like I said, no
Speaker 1: father in the house, no older brother, no ship like that. So, um,
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that some of our youth have to go
Speaker 1: through the situation of having to take that path. And uh,
Speaker 1: if there were opportunities presented, hopefully that's some of these
Speaker 1: used that you can catch them young. You know, I
Speaker 1: coach football. You know I see a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: I go from the age of five all the way
Speaker 1: up to four team. So you know, you see some
Speaker 1: of the boys who you know a little rough around
Speaker 1: the edges, you know, cussing that eleven years old and
Speaker 1: fuck you this and your mama this, and you know,
Speaker 1: so you could tell the motherfucker's who have already been
Speaker 1: uh around or familiar with with the ship, you know,
Speaker 1: go to school and they hanging with the rough kids
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, So I would have problems sometimes
Speaker 1: with some of the kids wanting to fight each other,
Speaker 1: some of the kids being from different areas, you know,
Speaker 1: or just some of the kids just not liking motherfucker's period.
Speaker 1: So we'll just try to bring them to a point
Speaker 1: of just going. You know, we all in this ship,
Speaker 1: you know, different side, different motherfucking areas. You know, some
Speaker 1: of y'all got dads at home, some of y'all don't,
Speaker 1: you know. But the banging ship, I would give them
Speaker 1: incorporate stories about me banging and what I saw and
Speaker 1: what I went through, and uh, there's opportunities that are
Speaker 1: given to you kids nowadays that you should take the
Speaker 1: opportunity un of these because like when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: it was hard to play youth football, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because to the affiliations with gangs and where
Speaker 1: you lived at you know, where I lived. I couldn't
Speaker 1: go play for a team because they was across the
Speaker 1: tracks in the enemy neighborhood. So you know, moms had
Speaker 1: a fear of taking me over there to sign me up.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of that's what we went through,
Speaker 1: but it's presented now a little differently, and a lot
Speaker 1: of us, you know, try to set up examples for
Speaker 1: the youth. So that's what one of the things I do, um,
Speaker 1: you know, coach football and try to show kids even
Speaker 1: though um, you know, they see me in movies and
Speaker 1: they hear the row coach, you did woopy woop, and
Speaker 1: you did this and you did that, you know, and
Speaker 1: I always try to tell them, you know, everybody has
Speaker 1: a choice and a different path to take, and don't
Speaker 1: always look at the dude that's ahead of you to go.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta take his path. You get me
Speaker 1: because I didn't have nobody who gang banged in my
Speaker 1: family at all. I did have no brothers or cousins
Speaker 1: or uncle influences or my people stayed down south in Mississippi,
Speaker 1: so my parents, my mom moved to California. So you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's the introduction where that came from. So you know,
Speaker 1: my sisters and my girl cousins, they fucked with all
Speaker 1: the gang bangers. It's how I got introduced because I
Speaker 1: wanted to. I want to have ship. I felt the protection,
Speaker 1: I felt, the affiliation, I felt that you know, the belonging.
Speaker 1: So that's what I saw as a kid because my
Speaker 1: father wasn't around. I wasn't part of no programs or nothing,
Speaker 1: or sports or nothing. And when you got sister and
Speaker 1: cousins pulling up after school with the latest drug dealers
Speaker 1: and they in the fancy cars and ship, there goes
Speaker 1: my influence. You give me, that's my influence. Even though
Speaker 1: moms was walking in the house every day, working the
Speaker 1: nine to five and struggling and trying to put food
Speaker 1: on the table. But my influences was the niggas down
Speaker 1: the corner with the fancy cars and who my sister
Speaker 1: and then was pulling up with. So it could take
Speaker 1: your turn. Because even though like I said, myns was
Speaker 1: in the church, put food on the table every day,
Speaker 1: work two jobs. You get me. You know, wasn't no
Speaker 1: rats and roaches and all that type of ship. But
Speaker 1: I still felt growing up in Compton because gang banging
Speaker 1: was that connection I felt to be longing. You feel me, Uh,
Speaker 1: niggas watching my back, I'm watching a back and that ship.
Speaker 1: So as a youth, you couldn't You couldn't tell me ship.
Speaker 1: As a as a thirteen year old, you couldn't tell
Speaker 1: me now have had my father been at home and
Speaker 1: it's been a different lifestyle than I probably saw things differently,
Speaker 1: like kids, do you know our typical kid when they
Speaker 1: grow I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a football player,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a basketball player. I'm gonna be a fireman.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't fuck that ship. I was gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the niggas down the street on the corner.
Speaker 1: That's what I was for the big at twelve years old. Hey,
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. So if one of
Speaker 1: those guys that was driving them nice cars are in
Speaker 1: that low rider that just say when your sister was David,
Speaker 1: if he would have came at you and told you
Speaker 1: that this is not for you gang banging. Don't you
Speaker 1: never gang bang and all of this other ship, would
Speaker 1: you to believe in? Would you to follow that path
Speaker 1: or listen to Probably because I didn't have no father
Speaker 1: figures at the time, and I was a young kid
Speaker 1: basically wanting to gravitate to who any any motherfucker who
Speaker 1: took the time you feel me was banging and was
Speaker 1: a hard ass nigga, and you knew he was in
Speaker 1: the streets with the sacking he was affiliated, and the
Speaker 1: nigga walked up to me and said, motherfucker, you bet not,
Speaker 1: gang bang. I went off to start playing football or
Speaker 1: some ship like that, because the nigga is telling me
Speaker 1: that's affiliated. You noticed, nigga, he will don't know that.
Speaker 1: Nigga say you bet not. I was one of the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that go oh O G said you bet not.
Speaker 1: Let me go do something else then, because now I
Speaker 1: got the word about O G fucking with me every
Speaker 1: day that I'm out here trying to be something that
Speaker 1: he said, I can't fucking be. I didn't have that.
Speaker 1: I had niggas in my own age group. There was
Speaker 1: no older niggas around. I was hanging around the twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen year old niggas who wanted to bang too. So
Speaker 1: the niggas that came over with the sister in them,
Speaker 1: they was like, yeah, little nigga, what's haping it? Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm gonna take you to the hood next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm accorded in. That's how I started banging.
Speaker 1: So that's where we need today. Encouragement supposed to say,
Speaker 1: come on join us, Come on, nigga, you can get everything.
Speaker 1: You really benefits being a game. A gang banger you got,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you for one K. You don't get
Speaker 1: none of that ship exactly in the good. And then
Speaker 1: after as a youth, you're influenced by you know, anybody,
Speaker 1: You could be fluenced by, anybody that you feel is official.
Speaker 1: You feel me, whether that's the local drug dealer, the
Speaker 1: local policeman, or the nigga on the corner who owned
Speaker 1: the motherfucking neighborhood store. You know, as a young kid,
Speaker 1: before you reach those depths of hell, if there's somebody
Speaker 1: significant that can put you on the right path. And
Speaker 1: that's what I try to do as far as with
Speaker 1: the football ship, because you see it, you know, you
Speaker 1: see niggas wanted the bang and they get there. You
Speaker 1: hear them whispering it or something because what's some blood?
Speaker 1: And you know you have to ask them. I check
Speaker 1: a nigger who said that ship? Where are you from? Motherfucker?
Speaker 1: If you don't take your that's home and study some
Speaker 1: books and go learn your fucking football plays for this
Speaker 1: game Saturday. And and that's what I try to you know,
Speaker 1: because it's not the right path, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And even though it's you know, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not wanting to talk because I was affiliated our gang bang.
Speaker 1: I sold drugs, I did it all, carried traps, bug
Speaker 1: did whatever. But the whole point about it is if
Speaker 1: there was a different lifestyle that I thought that would
Speaker 1: have gave me the same gratification as making money, feeling
Speaker 1: like I'm important a nigger from the hood representing, then
Speaker 1: I would have probably made that choice. But when you
Speaker 1: ain't got no dad in the house, your mom is
Speaker 1: working from eleven o'clock at night to seven in the morning.
Speaker 1: Ship Uh man, Uh, it's a man named Mr Davis
Speaker 1: and Mr Davis working t y C for forty years.
Speaker 1: Do last right now? I just said Mr David's name. Man.
Speaker 1: Mr Davis was a uh. He was strict, but he
Speaker 1: was fair and we knew he cared and he wouldn't
Speaker 1: let the staff mistreat us, right, so we could so
Speaker 1: if if he man, man, we could go tell the
Speaker 1: staff on Mr Davis and man, he go jump on
Speaker 1: him like their students and I used to hear them
Speaker 1: always tell the staff members, y'all can't correct these kids.
Speaker 1: If you ain't got no relationship with you, first have
Speaker 1: to establish a relationship with the motherfucker you trying to
Speaker 1: correct and tell something too if you think that person
Speaker 1: receive what you're saying. So without no, without no relationship,
Speaker 1: there's no connection. Man, I don't want to hear not
Speaker 1: what you're about to say. Nick, you can't come home
Speaker 1: with me if you and my face chip. As a
Speaker 1: young nigga, I resent it because I want you to
Speaker 1: come home with me the same discipline, the same chastising,
Speaker 1: the same correction that you've given me. Man, you're just
Speaker 1: getting it to me right here, or youth counsel or
Speaker 1: writer here on a football field. Man, come home with me, Man,
Speaker 1: bring me home with you. Those are the type of
Speaker 1: things I would be saying as a young nig in
Speaker 1: my head, get my ass chewed out, mad any ting
Speaker 1: me out. But man, just what I've been wrolling all
Speaker 1: my life a man, and jump on me and tell
Speaker 1: me I'm doing wrong right now and and and that's
Speaker 1: something you do. Five six kids been in the night
Speaker 1: at my house. You know every weekend. You didn't know
Speaker 1: because of a lot of the kids didn't have dads
Speaker 1: or you know, dads didn't show up to practice or games.
Speaker 1: And you know, and I have my son playing with
Speaker 1: me because I want to show motherfucker's that we as
Speaker 1: black men do have that connection with with our sons
Speaker 1: in the household. So that was one of my reasons
Speaker 1: for coaching and coaching with my son, uh, is to
Speaker 1: show that you know, there's a father, there's a son,
Speaker 1: You got that lifestyle here. So and then I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want kids to feel alienated by that. Either. You get
Speaker 1: a ship. Karan got coached eight here, you know, with
Speaker 1: his dad, and they get to go home every day
Speaker 1: and you see our coach eight always on him and
Speaker 1: you know with his shoes and his he carry his
Speaker 1: equipment after practice and you know, so kids with Coach eight,
Speaker 1: can I come spend the night over your house this weekend?
Speaker 1: Or I'll be like, yeah, jump in the car, can
Speaker 1: I come? So I have five six kids at the house,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and I've never been
Speaker 1: um one to brag about it, but these kids are sixteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen years old and I got four of them in
Speaker 1: the room right now with my son. You give me.
Speaker 1: So that's the connection that I've had to where that
Speaker 1: as these kids grow up, they still have the connection
Speaker 1: to me as a father figure in the coach that
Speaker 1: they still even that they're in high schools and they
Speaker 1: all go to different high schools. Now ship every weekend,
Speaker 1: these kids is at my house chilling. You get me
Speaker 1: that that's the connection that I feel that I had
Speaker 1: to give back to as far as knowing the way
Speaker 1: I grew up. Not to say I was fi their
Speaker 1: list because my father was still around, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: in the home and it made a significant difference. Say, ay, now,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to say to all the
Speaker 1: football coaches. Man, you say, man, you niggas are you
Speaker 1: guys are the ones who stopped the future violence? Right? Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a guy by the name of Big Dome Or
Speaker 1: He coach litt league football in this city for a
Speaker 1: long time and once he got into politics, our local
Speaker 1: mayor and a few of our city council members went
Speaker 1: to California and they got this this v IP gang
Speaker 1: programs and does with gang bollers. So man, they don't
Speaker 1: realize all the young niggas that's doing the shooting and killing,
Speaker 1: all the ones play little league football together, so they
Speaker 1: wouldn't got done. Man, Big don't can show up anywhere
Speaker 1: and ain't what's up coach. Don't all the young niggas
Speaker 1: know him, so he didn't been proven to be one
Speaker 1: of the most effective youth engagement people in the city
Speaker 1: from having coach little league football because you know, I
Speaker 1: met all the young niggles. It's a good start, and
Speaker 1: especially if you could get programs like that, because let's
Speaker 1: face it, you know, we we were kind of uh
Speaker 1: are are our nation is gifted at at sports, you know,
Speaker 1: in those areas. You know, so if you can catch
Speaker 1: them young five six years old. And the whole thing
Speaker 1: about it is, we should have programs like that in
Speaker 1: the city. I mean, we we have them, but like
Speaker 1: I said, when I grew up, it was difficult because
Speaker 1: of neighborhood boundaries in areas dudes affiliated. But I think
Speaker 1: if that was something, uh that could be brought to
Speaker 1: the forefront in the city, and it could be you know,
Speaker 1: to the point because it's real big among kids. You
Speaker 1: you just don't know how kids light up when they
Speaker 1: get to put on uniforms or be participants in the
Speaker 1: team or whatever. So I encourage a lot of single parents,
Speaker 1: whether their moms or dad's you know, try to sign
Speaker 1: your son up or kids up or daughters up. For
Speaker 1: some kind of its activities. It gets them out the house.
Speaker 1: It teaches them team you know, teamwork. It teaches them
Speaker 1: how to uh, It teaches them how to uh a
Speaker 1: deal with certain situations adversity. It teaches you how to
Speaker 1: get along with people outside of your own area, you
Speaker 1: get me. So it's a good thing. Sometimes it's costly,
Speaker 1: but that's another thing I believe in. You know, sports
Speaker 1: can get our kids out of a lot of situations
Speaker 1: because as you see, a lot of these kids that's
Speaker 1: coming up now come from these situations. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of our sports figures, you know, come from a
Speaker 1: lot of broken homes and poverty areas and gang infested situations.
Speaker 1: So if that was offered to a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: it's costly, a lot of people can't afford it. But
Speaker 1: we gotta find a way to be able to bring
Speaker 1: that to the forefront too, because if we can give
Speaker 1: kids a different influence in a different path than what
Speaker 1: they see. Like I said, I'm I'm I'm I'm a musician.
Speaker 1: You know, I made records you know, drive by Miss
Speaker 1: Daisy and where We from the Hood and all that
Speaker 1: type of ship because it was an expression of what
Speaker 1: I saw growing up. So that's why I made those
Speaker 1: type of records. But if you give you an opportunity,
Speaker 1: then what they see because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the music is pop, some pills, pop a gun, you know,
Speaker 1: stroke your woman, fuck your bitch, let's go get money,
Speaker 1: and I get it, you know, free mus three E
Speaker 1: suppression or whatever. But a lot of these kids gravitate
Speaker 1: to it. I got a son, you know, he listened
Speaker 1: to a lot of that ship. He's influenced. Not that
Speaker 1: he's going to go out and pick up a gun
Speaker 1: or think that you gotta drive a Lamborghini to be somebody,
Speaker 1: but they are influenced. That's why I put him in
Speaker 1: football at five. His influences football, you get me. He
Speaker 1: still listen to rap music and he still listened to
Speaker 1: it and whatever whatever. But it's number one influences football.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not uh, it's it's not who's hanging
Speaker 1: on the block, or let's go over here and hang
Speaker 1: or whatever his ship is. Let's go train, go work,
Speaker 1: let's go through some passes, let's go get you know. Sorry,
Speaker 1: If if the kids are put on a path of
Speaker 1: something that can catch their influence young, then I think
Speaker 1: it could keep a lot of them out of that lifestyle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he says earlier, he said some I'm earlier about
Speaker 1: the you know, little league football being costly and most
Speaker 1: of the time it's either have to be on the
Speaker 1: parents or the the little league organization to take the
Speaker 1: supplement right the cost. So with our challenge most people
Speaker 1: in the hood, in the black community, man, uh, let's
Speaker 1: create a booster club. Why black folks ain't got no
Speaker 1: booster club man for the for the little leg sporting
Speaker 1: sports teams. Whether that's your your local, whether that's the
Speaker 1: local h black businesses that's in that area, or if
Speaker 1: there's just the people we know who know we coach
Speaker 1: little league football to know there's a little league football
Speaker 1: team in our community. Were Man, we make monthly donation
Speaker 1: to a little league team. So man, that we all
Speaker 1: don't have it to give a lot one time, but
Speaker 1: we all gave something. Uh some of the time. Man,
Speaker 1: we'll take a burden off these coaches and these single
Speaker 1: mothers just trying to get their kids, Uh in some
Speaker 1: programs that's viable. Well, it's a question I got for Jesse, Like, um,
Speaker 1: you know they talked about a lot of money that
Speaker 1: takes the supplement, you know, the programs to get you know,
Speaker 1: kids out of the house. I'm pretty sure the government
Speaker 1: has some kind of money for that man, some kind
Speaker 1: of granted something like that. The way you can go
Speaker 1: cover costs something like that. We talked about that earlier.
Speaker 1: And here for worth they call a CCPD is funny um.
Speaker 1: And that's through your your local police department, your sheriff department. Actually,
Speaker 1: just just a while ago, I got a phone call.
Speaker 1: I missed the phone call from the sriff because I
Speaker 1: call him earlier to talk to him about the Father
Speaker 1: of the Father program. I just missed his call up
Speaker 1: here while we were while we were talking. But that's
Speaker 1: what you have to do. You have to get in
Speaker 1: there with those politicians like you sl Nobody would ever
Speaker 1: think about, I need to go to the sheriff to
Speaker 1: get some help. That's your county jail. Right then the
Speaker 1: niggers in the county, you create program for them niggers.
Speaker 1: And there's where you're your local funding comes from. That's
Speaker 1: that's your county funding. Right then you got state funding.
Speaker 1: That's your state government. Whoever your local state congressman is
Speaker 1: over whatever districut. That's when when when when you hear
Speaker 1: politicians say, well, they earmark fifty million dollars for uh
Speaker 1: chicken FECs project. I mean, they gave fifty million dollars
Speaker 1: to somebody to go to study chicken ships. So so
Speaker 1: so when I told, when I said earlier that the
Speaker 1: California Police Department has a nine hundred million dollar budget
Speaker 1: for a police department, they're not spending all that money.
Speaker 1: So a lot of that money is just sitting that
Speaker 1: belongs to us, but we don't know how to go
Speaker 1: solicit those funds. So with this new stimulus package, right
Speaker 1: that that they just put the forwards is nine hundred
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Man, four hundred four hundred billion is for
Speaker 1: inner city projects. It's for but we don't know about it, right,
Speaker 1: We ain't read the twenty three page stimulus package bill. Man,
Speaker 1: they got money it for us just to go create
Speaker 1: a community garden. So just say, if I got a
Speaker 1: football team called the east Side Falcons, the east Side
Speaker 1: Falcons can go create a community garden in their community
Speaker 1: and just plant greens and in all opinios and get
Speaker 1: down there. Forty fifty tho dollars for just an inner
Speaker 1: city community grant. Niggas who like growing weed. They can
Speaker 1: also go up under that nine hundred billion dollars. So
Speaker 1: we're not we two bars to squabbling about the social
Speaker 1: injustices that would happen to us. So we forget to
Speaker 1: try to follow the money, how to get to the money,
Speaker 1: and we get to the money, we cry about them
Speaker 1: kicking this and I asked, we got some money. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: So uh, that's the idea of the people with the
Speaker 1: non profits. Uh, the people, uh, the the young ladies
Speaker 1: in the community who work at the banks, your local banks. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you gotta Chick fil A, you gotta Subway McDonald's. Man.
Speaker 1: McDonald's is one of the biggest corporate sponsorships of hip
Speaker 1: hop music and black radio. Man. That's supposed to those
Speaker 1: local businesses supposed to be giving something back to it.
Speaker 1: That's why they're sitting in our communities, but in the
Speaker 1: churches as well. But we don't know how to go
Speaker 1: ask for the money. So that's so that's because there's
Speaker 1: there's not too many edges. That's like you said, there's
Speaker 1: not too many of there's not too many educated brothers
Speaker 1: on the subject of the matter. You know, we're so
Speaker 1: diff be worried about that six hundred dollar check instead
Speaker 1: of worrying about going to create a fund. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: so that's where So that's where we're coming in, Uncle
Speaker 1: hitting up, come in with the corporate ships in the
Speaker 1: Brandon game. We got the political game, we got the
Speaker 1: criminal justice game. So now we got everything we need. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can go get the funds. And now when we
Speaker 1: submit the grand proposals, we got, uh, we got a
Speaker 1: collaboration of a network of people, not just in one state,
Speaker 1: but the two states. So they're just gonna leave us
Speaker 1: on a on on our state. For man, we get
Speaker 1: federal phones, how we call how we collaborate now with
Speaker 1: this gang intervention, gang prevention, public safety between Texas and
Speaker 1: California program exactly. Man, you know, but before we before
Speaker 1: we cut it, man, because this is a very interesting
Speaker 1: and needed conversation that we all have. And Man, I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you something, man, because I noticed and it's
Speaker 1: become you know, we talk about young people being you know,
Speaker 1: admiring those you know, hood figures, the major figures in
Speaker 1: their neighborhoods. Right. I know, it's a trend, man, of
Speaker 1: what these young people. Man um the words snitch has
Speaker 1: become like a defense mechanism for them. As soon as
Speaker 1: somebody do something they like that they have an enemy
Speaker 1: of confrontation with somebody. Oh you're a snitch. They call
Speaker 1: the grandma. They called their grandmama. Snitches. You called the polia.
Speaker 1: Granted you snitch, don't know, so they think they grandmama. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so that's the thing. And I think, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's become the go to defend mechanism for a young person,
Speaker 1: not even a young person, because I see some of
Speaker 1: these other days, Oh here is snitch. I won't establishment
Speaker 1: you don't here because we don't talk about this multiple times,
Speaker 1: and it seems like that these knuckleheads still out they
Speaker 1: don't get it. The only way you can be first
Speaker 1: of all, the only way you can be considered as
Speaker 1: a snick is if you are a person engaged in crime.
Speaker 1: If you are a criminal and choose to the the
Speaker 1: um devote yourself to underworld activities. Me and Charleston go
Speaker 1: rob a bank, I get caught, Charleston get away here
Speaker 1: back in Texas, chilling, and they tell me, oh man,
Speaker 1: you know what what we know you wouldn't buy yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh man, eight was with me, um and Charleston with me.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, ain't got the majority of
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I work
Speaker 1: a deal out, not get out and they come and
Speaker 1: get y'all right, that is snising. If I am a
Speaker 1: law abiding citizen and I am walking into my house
Speaker 1: and somebody's following me home, they put a pistol in
Speaker 1: the back of mine. He had tied me up and
Speaker 1: take everything out, and I know it's the nigga up
Speaker 1: the street. Police come to my house and call me, right,
Speaker 1: you know, they come over and take it. Report man,
Speaker 1: that nigga John Do up the street tied me up
Speaker 1: to do it. That dude is not a snitch. He
Speaker 1: is not asking for that. He's not a thing. So
Speaker 1: we recently had a situation where you have what's the
Speaker 1: cast name to where the rents in his hair and
Speaker 1: dressed like a girl. Uh yeah, south sau sauthy walking
Speaker 1: south walker. Yeah, you and him just had a thing
Speaker 1: to where he accused you with some stuff, didn't he. Yeah? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know I've been man, I've been community active and
Speaker 1: right I'm I've been I've been community leader. Uh Man.
Speaker 1: I do training for the U. S. Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 1: I trained the States doing the correction officers I work
Speaker 1: with man, so you know what I do the community thing,
Speaker 1: right with the politicians and stuff. So a lot of
Speaker 1: times when I do, I'm very vocal about the shootings
Speaker 1: and the depths and that in the overdose that take
Speaker 1: place in in the city and in my community. So
Speaker 1: I'm vocal about it. So a lot of times I'm
Speaker 1: gonna Facebook talking and it's you know, some niggers to
Speaker 1: get on there. They want a gang bang on me,
Speaker 1: hold me on the internet. You know. They get on
Speaker 1: there telling me they about the some ninety three bloods
Speaker 1: and I'm some killers dish and they barking real loud
Speaker 1: and they scared me. Well, man, I'm a law bidy citizen. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't want no problem with no gangs. And I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about community activism. So motherfucker telling me, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt you, I'm gonna do this to you. Well, man,
Speaker 1: I'm a law bidy citizen. You can't threaten me and
Speaker 1: tell me what you're gonna do. Now. I don't watch
Speaker 1: enough for for the eight where if I got to
Speaker 1: go kill that nigger. People want to know what if
Speaker 1: he threatened you and you fear for your life? But
Speaker 1: why didn't you make a report? So so I don't
Speaker 1: have to use no bond money, so I don't have
Speaker 1: to go get no lawyer, didn't have to wait for
Speaker 1: the grand jury to know building or have to go
Speaker 1: to trial and try to prove I would self defense
Speaker 1: men rather than killing the black man is on the
Speaker 1: internet threatened me to couple my tracks. I wonna just
Speaker 1: go make a report. I ain't gonna press no charge
Speaker 1: with no terroristic thread. I'm gonna go tell them. People
Speaker 1: say that bad motherfucker over the threat me and he said,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do to me? So next time? Man? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: So that's all I'm doing. Man, I want to stand here,
Speaker 1: tell you what you're you're a smart man, because what
Speaker 1: that does and people ain't understanding it creates a paper
Speaker 1: track and over there Jeff defense like a motherfucker. So
Speaker 1: that's that's where didn't get that from. You know, nigga
Speaker 1: do all the threat and so I don't take threats
Speaker 1: light me, nig then you can't play with me by threatning.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go because I gotta keep doing the
Speaker 1: community world. How I'm gonna let the nigg in the
Speaker 1: streets tricked me to come in the streets and play
Speaker 1: his street route. I'm gonna lose. I made it out,
Speaker 1: so how I'm gonna let them nigga tricked me into
Speaker 1: going back. So what happened was I got tired of
Speaker 1: making them complaints. It's going down, They're fetting out the paperwork.
Speaker 1: So I had like five blood niggas drive from three
Speaker 1: cities and come down off of my neighborhood playing super
Speaker 1: lowedown bloods right, and what they gonna do to me?
Speaker 1: They brought guns and everything, and they called and told
Speaker 1: me they would go do it. So I beat them
Speaker 1: down there and got set up, and when they showed up,
Speaker 1: I jumped out the bushes and two days later I'm
Speaker 1: the only one in jail would would aggravate the salt
Speaker 1: with it, that the weather man. So I'm not on
Speaker 1: three bones right now because I left some niggers on
Speaker 1: the internet tricked me and the playing gangster. And when
Speaker 1: I got gangster, oh man, I got to spend all
Speaker 1: this money now man, So yeah, so now man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell it. Man, fun you, I'm gonna go tell
Speaker 1: it's a bad, bad, bad thing. He would go do
Speaker 1: something to me bad. So I wanna let you choke man.
Speaker 1: He's a bad man over there. So I'm law biding citizens.
Speaker 1: I've got a bad bad he bore. I'm a good
Speaker 1: I'm a p t a dad. And then I go
Speaker 1: to the PTA meeting exactly like I go to PTA
Speaker 1: meetings and kid football games. I'm not spending and you
Speaker 1: talk about killing the digging good me up and fucking
Speaker 1: hanging me at all comedy ship, let me put down.
Speaker 1: Want to remind me of the worst days of our life,
Speaker 1: nigger the nineties? You want to take me back to
Speaker 1: the nineties when it was niced and then scattered them
Speaker 1: kind of niggas from the nineties. Yeah, you know, that
Speaker 1: just goes to me. That just goes to show the
Speaker 1: ignorance of of of some Niggers who feel like, I
Speaker 1: don't give funk. If you are a hundred years old,
Speaker 1: you're still supposed to play by the street rules or where.
Speaker 1: But I'm a hundred years old, you get me. I
Speaker 1: ain't been in the streets in fifty years. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: raising grandkids and I'm over here being being normal. Mr Rogers,
Speaker 1: stop talking to me. About nigger. You're gonna bust on
Speaker 1: me and you're gonna do and and douz blood I'm
Speaker 1: from this and I'm like, dude, I'm walking on the
Speaker 1: cane right now. You still got a problem with me?
Speaker 1: Like what the funk? So I get it, But it's
Speaker 1: the level of how people huts that you're still supposed
Speaker 1: to be street affiliated. So if I tell you I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill you, nigga, you bet not gonna tell nobody,
Speaker 1: especially want to sing yourself, because, like you said, the
Speaker 1: niggas from wherever road down on you and appairly they
Speaker 1: thought she was to play play nigga. And when you
Speaker 1: came back out on him and showed him that it
Speaker 1: wasn't the game. Now they running to the police and
Speaker 1: telling on you. Oh he ain't that a trip? So
Speaker 1: so they come to get you and you wind up
Speaker 1: doing some time. Oh man, I'm not on bone right now. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been over years, so I'm not on bone right now. Man,
Speaker 1: Try and get And ain't that the situation that the
Speaker 1: hardest motherfucker will try to test you. But then when
Speaker 1: you show the motherfucker I ain't to be fucked with,
Speaker 1: they be the ones who run and get the telling
Speaker 1: the hole store tell a lot of motherfuckers too. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta watch who it is because the
Speaker 1: hardest motherfucker be the weakest motherfucker in a in a
Speaker 1: different situation. Yeah, man, so yeah, I'm I'm fighting in
Speaker 1: cases right now. Man, So ship up. But it's looking
Speaker 1: good on my behad though. Yeah, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: the thing I just wanted to put that out there
Speaker 1: for your young people. Man, you gotta be careful going
Speaker 1: online making idle thrits because when you're threaten somebody online
Speaker 1: and don't think because you press the delete button that's
Speaker 1: going away. No, because like you said, First forty eight
Speaker 1: and all the other shows and just detective work has
Speaker 1: proven that you don't get away with nothing was done.
Speaker 1: The dirt will always come to light, and I always
Speaker 1: want that. I'm gonna say one thing to the youth
Speaker 1: tool on that type of situation coming from that. Stop
Speaker 1: stop feeling like you know, um, egos gotta put you
Speaker 1: in the in the egos to put you in the
Speaker 1: fucked up situation. So um, stop feeling like you gotta
Speaker 1: test the motherfucker to prove your ship, because you could
Speaker 1: be a humble, motherfucking cool too and still get a
Speaker 1: lot of respect. Yeah, stop beefing with niggas you don't
Speaker 1: know over this bullshit? So what fuck it? If for
Speaker 1: nigga live across town, So what why you? Why are
Speaker 1: you stop? Just stop beefing with niggas over because this
Speaker 1: nigga put out a rap song and you gotta rap song,
Speaker 1: or this nigga live over here and you live over here.
Speaker 1: The young niggas gotta stop learning how to beef just
Speaker 1: because it's in the air, like fuck it. Oh what
Speaker 1: the nigga's over there wrapping two or nigga fuck their crew.
Speaker 1: Nigga were harder than that next thing. You know, niggas
Speaker 1: is beefing on but the internet ship. So just learning
Speaker 1: to curve that ship. Man, Just learn to kirk because,
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of a lot of niggas
Speaker 1: is getting killed and a lot of niggas is dying
Speaker 1: and dropping because the egos. It ain't even because the
Speaker 1: real beef, it's just because the egos. Nowadays, you know,
Speaker 1: a month, nigga want to prove that they're harder than
Speaker 1: the next nigga, whether it comes to music, sports or
Speaker 1: just trying to hang in the month sucking neighborhood and ship.
Speaker 1: You get me, we had we had real uh soociated
Speaker 1: beef and ship when I was gang banging whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it, but it's still was was was
Speaker 1: a lot of silliness. What's next for you guys, oh, man,
Speaker 1: the father of the Father's program or there's being introduced.
Speaker 1: So just as soon as we get off, man, Mr Taylor,
Speaker 1: go be hitting up. Sure if be a waiver to
Speaker 1: shout out to suff be awaiver man. Uh. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: can get these programs introduced into the county jails. With
Speaker 1: these father the Father's program, Man, we can be able
Speaker 1: to offer young brothers, uh, some of the same assistance
Speaker 1: that single mothers get by way of trying to introduce policies. Man.
Speaker 1: And the first thing we need to do, man is
Speaker 1: is is get the child support system out of the
Speaker 1: criminal system. We have to stop criminalizing for that. So,
Speaker 1: so that's dumb ship that they could have came up with.
Speaker 1: It's taking prit people's licenses and all that ship downport.
Speaker 1: You can't world that ship as dumb as hell? How
Speaker 1: the funk am I supposed to get to work? If
Speaker 1: you're gonna take my driver's license we'll be taking and
Speaker 1: let for ninety percent of the jobs you get, you
Speaker 1: gotta drive. The fucking don't get to work if you
Speaker 1: want to take my drive. And then another thing, Now
Speaker 1: you're going to create a whole bunch of fucking criminal
Speaker 1: bullshit because how many niggas ain't for the fucking drive.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna get in my car and drive over.
Speaker 1: And now I got a motherfucking ticket and got to
Speaker 1: go to jail forfended license for not paying some money,
Speaker 1: not because I was drunk and hit of motherfucker, not
Speaker 1: because I didn't crashed on the highway or something. You
Speaker 1: want to take my license because of some fucking money.
Speaker 1: That was the dumbest ship ever. Whoever made that ship,
Speaker 1: they need to get rid of that ship everywhere. So
Speaker 1: that's the plan, man. So once we once week before,
Speaker 1: once we feel like we can restore the fathers man,
Speaker 1: then we can start working on the community. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, where can they find I know I
Speaker 1: asked you first, where can they find you at? Online
Speaker 1: Charleston Man, my my YouTube, the official Charleston White Instagram
Speaker 1: or the official Charleston White and then Facebook, Charleston White.
Speaker 1: Are your Instagram, Yes, Sir atles at Charleston J. White.
Speaker 1: All right, sure, how about you sir on Facebook? Just
Speaker 1: to table, Just to table, just so so people can't
Speaker 1: reach out to you guys if they have any questions
Speaker 1: about the program that you offer. Eight one seven seven
Speaker 1: nine eight five one five three you just get a
Speaker 1: number out on their hum Yeah. Man, he actually hey,
Speaker 1: Mr Taylor actually has a whole youth a ranch, man.
Speaker 1: You gotta he got about an acre and a half
Speaker 1: of land. Uh. He got a facility where they can
Speaker 1: learn to work on cars. You got another facility, man,
Speaker 1: where they can dig their own a little low pond
Speaker 1: and creek and do the water irrigation. He got another
Speaker 1: low side where you can do your holder coach in
Speaker 1: Landstadent do you some farming. Uh So he got a
Speaker 1: whole little little facility for kids. Man. Were returned to
Speaker 1: a summercount. So that's what we tried to do prior
Speaker 1: to the coronavirus hitting at the start of this year.
Speaker 1: You know, you as long as you teach your kids
Speaker 1: and then you go a long way. Basically what I do, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just sure trying to give back to some stuff
Speaker 1: that I've done a long time ago. Man, I got
Speaker 1: in this. I got this man, my son, I used
Speaker 1: to be. I used to be a drug deal on myself. Man,
Speaker 1: and my son seen some things as you at a
Speaker 1: young age. Man, And I asked him when we got older,
Speaker 1: because I see him started doing the same thing, and
Speaker 1: he's seen some of the trouble I got into. And
Speaker 1: I asked him one day, I say, son, Man, I said,
Speaker 1: why do you why are you doing this? Why are
Speaker 1: you going on the same road without going down? And
Speaker 1: you've seen the trouble out that that that that it
Speaker 1: caused me. He he cocked his head and he said, Dad,
Speaker 1: He said, Man, when I was young, one day, he said,
Speaker 1: you told me to going there and get that bag
Speaker 1: duffel bag out. He said, you told me not looking it,
Speaker 1: he said, But I looked in it, and I've seen
Speaker 1: a bag full of money. He said, Dad. It was
Speaker 1: just then, Man, I've been chasing that bag full of money.
Speaker 1: So man, when he when he said it tim me, Man,
Speaker 1: it touched me, you know. And that's when I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if I influence my son you know this way, then
Speaker 1: I don't influence a whole bunch of these other you
Speaker 1: The young guys around here, you know, with the flashy
Speaker 1: called the women to go, you know how how the
Speaker 1: dope deal a go. You know. So from that part
Speaker 1: on and I had to change everything. Man, I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta show, I gotta show my son. I don't
Speaker 1: want the sun or something. All these other young boys
Speaker 1: are heard something different too. Well. That concludes another episode
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