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Speaker 1: Hey, James Still and eight, I need you to tell

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Speaker 1: me what the word on the streets is. What the

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Speaker 1: hell is going on? Ship? Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast,

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Speaker 1: like to welcome everyone to another episode of the Gangster

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast. And I have my homeboys, but Jake Tonight, Man,

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Speaker 1: we have some special individuals man coming from the Fort

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Speaker 1: Worth area. Man. We have Mr Jesse Taylor, politician man

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Speaker 1: for Tarran fort Worth, Texas man pretty much running the

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Speaker 1: show down there. And we have our homeboys, the man

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Speaker 1: around town, the Mother of the South Charleston Blue. What's

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Speaker 1: going on us doing? Dallas area has a huge gang

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Speaker 1: problem down there, and I know you guys are pretty

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Speaker 1: much the after key to the study. You know, help

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Speaker 1: a lot of different people in different situations. So when

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Speaker 1: we still, well, we we actually started with the juvenile system, man. Uh.

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Speaker 1: From the juvenile system, Uh, we kind of transcended into

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Speaker 1: uh at the Central Parole Office, the main parole officer

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Speaker 1: in Tarron County. So every brother, at least from sixteen,

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Speaker 1: whenever they got out of prison, it was mandatory that

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Speaker 1: killers on the inside where they go to prison or not.

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Speaker 1: We haven't already made the connection on the inside. So

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Speaker 1: when they transition back to the re entry part of

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Speaker 1: provide alternatives and resources, man, when they make the transition

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Speaker 1: so pretty much you to bridge for those guys. We

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Speaker 1: but there's not a lot of resources for our children

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Speaker 1: when they come back to our communities. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: without the stress of having to go out and take

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Speaker 1: penitentiary chance to just to bring some money and to

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Speaker 1: feed the family. Man. So we try to help connect

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Speaker 1: the adults as well as the juveniles to the resources

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Speaker 1: he got into the politic game. Man. So he worked

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Speaker 1: more as a national delegate. Uh, he's sit down more

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Speaker 1: He's either been uh he's been in close proximity with

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Speaker 1: So you guys are pretty much Briggs just from the youth,

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Speaker 1: so they could transition out, Yes, sir, yes, sir. Um

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Speaker 1: at the end of this this course just a curriculum. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Not only that, man, we were we're partnered with with

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Speaker 1: What what is about I've been to prison. I seen

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Speaker 1: is being created through the Fathers, the Father's Program, which

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Speaker 1: is coming to California, you know, Baba uncle Henny Man.

428
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Speaker 1: So we're just trying to get all the the statistics,

429
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Speaker 1: the numbers, get the data, uh, and get the research.

430
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Speaker 1: So when we present it, man, we got all our

431
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Speaker 1: eyes dotted in the tea's cross. Or are we bringing

432
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: some news right now, Charles? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're breaking

433
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: some news, man, uh, Hendy noted man. So we got

434
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: the father of the Father's Program. Man, it's it's coming

435
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: to California, you know, and that's going to be um,

436
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, through Uncle hen that Father's the Father's Program

437
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be you know, facilitated through James myself and eight.

438
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: Because you know three figures. UM eight is very active

439
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: in the community. He don't brag onto a lot. He's

440
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, out there messing with the youth. He's a

441
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: grounds here with the youth. He choots the coach football,

442
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, he shoot the football, you know the football.

443
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: Very passionate about it, um And it's something that I'm

444
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: looking forward to, and I know James and James alluded

445
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: to earlier. He's looking forward to doing stuff like that

446
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: because we have to become proactive as black men in

447
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: our community and we have to stop waiting all the

448
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: time for that come and help me. Because I kind

449
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: of feel the same way my man was speaking earlier

450
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: was about the Democratic Party. That party teaches us to

451
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: be co dependent on people to set up and just

452
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: wait to set up and get you know, wait on

453
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: the welfare check or uh some kind of check every month.

454
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: We're waiting for somebody to come and help us. But

455
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: the only people that can help us as us us. Well,

456
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: you know what one thing I want to shave man.

457
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: We have to look at the world and the way

458
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: the world is today. I'm looking at this at the

459
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: news and I see all these people at the Capitol,

460
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 1: but Donald Trump if that was black people, this is

461
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: this is just my point of view. If that was

462
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: black people, all hell would have broke loose. Uh, you know,

463
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: where's the dogs, where's the gas, the tear gas? Where's

464
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: the military, where's the police knocking them down? Get the

465
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: funk off my off this line. If we don't see

466
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: what the world is becoming, then we we we're wasting

467
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: our time as black man. Because at the end of

468
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: the day, we lost already if if you really look

469
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: at it, we already at a loss. So the way

470
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: that we are treated, in the way that other people

471
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: are treated, we really have to pay attention. This is

472
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: why I really want a change, for us to change,

473
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: for us to see change, because if we don't do it,

474
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it for us. We gotta do

475
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: it well. This is this is the perfect time for

476
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: us to get it together. But why they're fighting each other. Never,

477
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: never in our lifetime, never in our lifetime, have we

478
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: seen the white boy fight the white boy like there

479
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: last time they fought each other like this, this was

480
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: over us and they were mad the motherfucker. But by

481
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: the albumst wiped out their country right that was the

482
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Civil War. So now here it is. They're back at

483
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: this same problem again. But this don't have nothing to

484
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: do with us. This fight isn't about us. This fight

485
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: is about all the other foreugners that they have let

486
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: coming to their country, who don't speak their language, who

487
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: don't eat at their restaurants, who don't depend on them.

488
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: So this had nothing. So this is the perfect time

489
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: for us to let them kill each other. I let

490
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: them take over the White House and come getting our

491
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: stuff together. By time they look up, we might haven't

492
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: got our nation fix. They losing their nation. They right

493
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: now we're watching them lose their nation. So now we

494
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: can't say, man, they got they focused on us. They can't.

495
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: They ain't got time to focus on us now. So

496
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: now this time for us to put it out their

497
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: politics and man go to fixing on what we can fix.

498
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: And by time they look up, man, we don't got

499
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: a little stronger and we can stick our chest out

500
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: and say, hey, these are our demands and we stand

501
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: on what we demand. Right. I follow that exactly. It

502
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: has to be that way, because I honestly feel like this.

503
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, we have all of these people that sit

504
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: up in these offices and these places, and they write

505
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: this programming. Right, they write this program and to tell

506
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: us what they think that what they think our children

507
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: need and what our communities need. The only ones that

508
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: can heal our community and thoroughly go through there is us.

509
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: We have to go through there, people like James McDonald's,

510
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: people like yourself, Charles. Because Charles, let let's go back

511
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Charleston for the record. You spend time in the penitentiary system. Correct.

512
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean I went to do and I'm

513
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: i'm I'm I'm a steak baby, I'm gonna that. That's

514
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: what I meant to say that you've spent telling Yeah,

515
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: when I left, I was the longest kid locked up

516
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: in t y C. What was that for? For the

517
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: people that don't know, for murder? We killed the white

518
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: man in the South. Yeah, in the South. I want

519
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: the only niggas I know there's alive right now today

520
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: and say, man, I've done time for killing the white man.

521
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: Most niggas killed niggas and they're proud of it. Look,

522
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: let me ask you this man, because you know it's

523
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: supposed to be reformed, right, You're supposed to go to

524
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: prison and jail to get reformed, to get yourself right.

525
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: And get ready to go acclimate, to go out and

526
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: become a productive member of society. When you say that

527
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: your time spent in the chive in our system helps

528
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: you or hurt you, it helped me, help me. It

529
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: was uh, keep in mind I called a murder caatione.

530
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Prior to that, outside of California, that was no such

531
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: thing as a kid of killing. You nigga started in California,

532
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: you'all start killing in seventy two. I think the Balue

533
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 1: murders right outside of that, it wasn't black black children

534
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: wasn't committing murder around the country. So almost twenty years later,

535
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: after California, juvenile started killing late eighties nineties, Texas created

536
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: this juvenile the terms just this juvenile law is called

537
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: Texas juvenile the term of sentencing law where a kid

538
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: could be sentenced up to forty years for committing violent

539
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: crimes such as capital murder, murder, attempted capital murder, aggravated

540
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: sexual assault. So I went into a juvenile system when

541
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: we had a governor by the name of and Richards.

542
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: And Richards was a recovering alcoholic and recovering drug at it,

543
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: and so a lot of her, a lot of money,

544
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: and the policy that she had in the early nineties

545
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: was geared towards not just rehabilitation, but resocialization. Now noticed

546
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I said rehabilitation and re socialization with two different things

547
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: in two different terms. Resocialization is teaching you when you

548
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: walk up to somebody, instead of taking they toyed, you

549
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: say can I play with that? Well, most black children

550
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: don't know you have to ask. They say, hey, man,

551
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: let me see that, and they take it from you,

552
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: and if you can't whoop them, you can't ever get

553
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: it back. There's not mostly was socialized like that. Most

554
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: people when you give them something, they wasn't talked to

555
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: say thank you. So resocialization take you back to how

556
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you're being resocialized. So I literally grew up in a

557
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: in a system home that gave us all the tools

558
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: and all the skills and all the things necessary for

559
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: us to come out here and be successful. So this

560
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: is the product of what I'm a product of a

561
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: juvenile system articulation. I was able to go to college

562
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: and excel. Uh Man, my childhood issues were resolved. We

563
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: had some of the best psychiatrist, some of the world's

564
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: best psychologists. Uh We was co ed so it was

565
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: boys and girls. We had an in ground swimming pool,

566
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: We had off campus jobs. We can take college courses

567
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: off campus, we had weekend passes. So I was really uh,

568
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I grew up in and more like a boarding school,

569
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: but we were just you know, child merdles real. Now

570
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this question. I kind of want.

571
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not kind of woman. Go ahead, cause

572
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: I think we gotta de ley go ahead, you gotta yeah, yeah, no, no,

573
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: you gott you gotta go here. Okay, what I was

574
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: gonna say it was I want to go to James. Now,

575
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna come to you. Eight ate. You did

576
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: time in jail, right, yeah, a little bit. You did

577
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, So I won't really ask

578
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: you this. This is the question work here for James. James,

579
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: but you say that your time in the penitentiary system

580
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: actually help you. The only thing to Vina Ginger dropped

581
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: me is I didn't want to go back to the

582
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: motherfuck and that that's that's for most nigger from from

583
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: from our way like that. It does us that we

584
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: don't want to go back to fucking jail. That's what

585
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: going to jail. Are going to the pends. It teaches you,

586
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: It teaches you. Now don't want to come back, and

587
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: this motherfucker that's it, So I gotta do something differently. Well,

588
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I paid attention to the fifteen fourteen cent work in

589
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: the yard. I paid attention too, you know, you basically

590
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: a slave, and that motherfucker I paid attention to, you know,

591
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: being told what to do when to do it. And

592
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass man. Those those I didn't want

593
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: to live like that. Uh you know, the majority of

594
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: the people that was on the street that I ran

595
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: into that were that that hardcore wasn't as hard hardcore

596
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: in prison, and and it was like, what the funk

597
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: am I here for? I'm when I get out, I'm

598
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: not coming back. So getting out of prison, I had

599
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: to prove a point to not only my mother, uh

600
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: my baby mama's, you know, everybody that said I was

601
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: going back. I had to show them I ain't going

602
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: back to prison. And and then the motherfucker but the knife.

603
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: You make a knife and you walk around with it

604
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: all day just to keep the motherfuck off your ass.

605
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: So I used all of that to say, I'm not

606
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: coming back to this motherfucker no more. It wasn't worth it.

607
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: It was a waste of time of my life. And

608
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: I was better off on the street and then setting

609
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: up in that motherfucker in the top romin and you know,

610
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: smoking camera cigarettes. So some of the ship I can't

611
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: some of the habits I had in there, I can't

612
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: get rid of them. I've been out of prison this

613
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: and I'm good, you know. So it taught me something,

614
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: But it taught me what I wanted to know or

615
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: or gave me the reasons why I didn't want to

616
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: come back. And I did that. Yeah. Well, one thing

617
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: that tripped me out about Charleston Man used to hearing

618
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: when he was speaking, and he would tell me some

619
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: young men they actually wanted to go to prison because

620
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: they wanted to slider by their manhood by going to prison. It.

621
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: I want to help me. I was a young nigga.

622
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: I inspired. I inspired to get to me a prison

623
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: yard and walk down there and do all that ship

624
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: that I heard uncle uncle curtis bragging. Nov I wanted

625
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: to go make some nigga wash my draws too. Uh Yeah,

626
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: I want to hold a cigarette behind my earra. I

627
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: wanted the road a cigarette pack up in my sleeve.

628
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Because it was propagated to me that way, right, uh

629
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: nigga from I saw all the penitentiary movies with Too

630
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Sweet or The Midnight Though. Man, I saw all that ship.

631
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Uh So, Man, when I was in the six and

632
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: seven grade and recess, me and my little fellas were

633
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: practicing prison. We were talking about what we're gonna do,

634
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: how we would go walk. Uh So, now, man, I

635
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: inspired to go to prison. I just didn't know they

636
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: could keep you forever. Because I've seen Uncle Curtains go.

637
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: He'd be gone for three or four months, come out

638
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: on Wayne and go for a little while. So I

639
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: thought you could come and go kind of as you please.

640
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: As as a kid, I didn't know they keep you

641
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: for us home a long time. I don't do that. Yeah.

642
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: So as I started getting older, oh as I started

643
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: getting older men, and I say this, I say this

644
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: with a I can't say. I'm ashamous said, but is man,

645
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: it's pitiful that I it's a part of me that

646
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: feel like I missed out on some of them because

647
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: I didn't go to prison. I haven't done everything out

648
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: here in these streets home, and I can sell and

649
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: done this and I got but say when I get

650
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: around certain niggas. I can't talk ton of tankly talk,

651
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: and I feel loved out sometimes sometimes when I'll be

652
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: looking at on, hold on, let me send some time

653
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: when I'll be looking at your motherfucking nigga sending them

654
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: pictures home for prison from them Feds, and I'll be

655
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: looking at them, nigga, the nigga stands the body language

656
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: and then just the camaradderie homie that that picture gives off. Man,

657
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of that home that

658
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't look good? Man? I want, man, I want to

659
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: be a part of that prison ship, my nigga. So

660
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: I see how it can be so appealing to the

661
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: young niggas, because at forty three years old, I feel

662
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: like I missed stating. So what the hell do we

663
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: say to young boys thinking like that? Think? What would

664
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: we say to them? Young boys like that? Man they're

665
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: thinking like that. You tell him this, You tell him

666
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: everything that looked like his gold ain't gold. That's food,

667
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: because you know what happens, just like myself. Going to

668
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: the county jail is to start you. You better be

669
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: a gladiator going to the county jail in California. You're

670
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: going that gang module. You have to do what you

671
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: have to do. It prepares you for prison. If you

672
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: don't make it in the county jail, you damn sure

673
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna make it in prison. And a lot of cats,

674
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: just like you said, I want to go to prison

675
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: because they the homies went to prison, but some of

676
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: them and they don't realize going to prison, you ain't

677
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: gonna be like the big homie. Yeah, yeah, you ain't

678
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: known like him. So your prison days is gonna be

679
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: lived way harder than where he had to live. In prison.

680
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: Your survival move is gonna have to be on a

681
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: opposed to mind being at the sixty. So it ain't

682
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: what you think it is. It's when you get in

683
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: there you really see what prison is is either gonna

684
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: build you or break you down. And I've seen a

685
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: lot of kids really really immaturity is like not being taught,

686
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like you said, a lot

687
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: of dudes and grow up with fathers and the homes,

688
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, so, uh, it was the status. A lot

689
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: of us joined the gangs as young dudes, so our

690
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: role models was the O G S who was in prison.

691
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: So basically a lot of cats were, you know, had

692
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: that feeling of of prison authenticated them. You feel met

693
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: solidified my status by going to prison, of going to

694
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: y E back then. You know, so trying to tell

695
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: like I said again, in some aspects, it's just like

696
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: you know, um with with the music or with any

697
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: influence that we have as youngsters. You know what I'm saying,

698
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: when we don't have those role models present, you get me. Uh.

699
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't grow up with a father and

700
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: the home. I talked to my father every day almost

701
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, he lived in Oklahoma, moved to Oklahoma to

702
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: go to work for General Motors. You know, I grew

703
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: up in a home with just moms and my sister.

704
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: It was gang banging everywhere, So I felt like I

705
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: had the gang bang you get me. I don't have

706
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: the I didn't feel like we had the family backbone

707
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: structure that uh, So to speak, I could survive in

708
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: South Central just being a regular motherfucker. You get me. Uh,

709
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: I had to join the game, so uh to change

710
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: that influence would probably have been somebody to tell me, O, motherfucker,

711
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: going to prison ain't fun. Like it might look fun,

712
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: but it ain't fun. But out of us as youths

713
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: don't or didn't have those dudes to tell us you

714
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: don't want to go to prison, you get me, Uh,

715
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: stay in school, you know, try to maintain, get you

716
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: a job or whatever. We didn't have a lot of

717
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: that because a lot of us, you know, single file,

718
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: single mothers, you know Fithers was out on drugs somewhere,

719
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: just didn't give a damn so uh to try to

720
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: change the influence of telling dudes, hey, I know you

721
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: see it on TV, or you might hear it in

722
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: one of my rap songs, or you might see so

723
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: and so glorified the status, but prison ain't the way

724
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: to go. Um my my. I sometimes question that too,

725
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: to see what can change the minds of some of

726
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: these young dudes who were influenced by just whatever it

727
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: is negative you get me. They feel like you said,

728
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: should I feel like I missed out when I look

729
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: at prison pictures and see niggas in the holes is

730
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: and they all clicked up, and the homies all whatever,

731
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: and then niggas be trying model. I did fire the

732
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: ten or I walked this yard or I walked that yard,

733
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: and we did this, and we did that, and you

734
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: don't have no teals of that. So some dudes feel

735
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: like I got my doctor go through that program to

736
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: authenticate myself. You feel me, yeah, and and and and man.

737
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: The the thing I'm sitting her listening to you guys talk, man,

738
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting her saying, men, at all the motherfucking

739
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: prison stories I heard. It wasn't until I got grown

740
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: and I actually heard something bad about prison all the see,

741
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: we really Uncle Curtis really wasn't no street nigga. Man,

742
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: he laid up on I ain't being got high. He

743
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: was the dope finguh. Uncle Wayne. Uncle Wayne was the

744
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: pimp nigga who got off on dope. So I didn't

745
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: get to see the real give niggers. Who would who

746
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: would come tell me Uncle Uncle curtin nigga telling me

747
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: we had a nigga Washington growls. If I really look

748
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: at my things back, he really telling me what you

749
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. He was young, So most of

750
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: the niggas that's hearing about prison, being and exposed to

751
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: prison or even the streets is really getting it from

752
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: a weenie nigga. And he and the weenie nigga to

753
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: make the ship sound like they were niggas, and it's

754
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: an easy cake walk. So we think it's an easy

755
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: cake walk getting a second hand information from these niggas, right,

756
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm when you hear me say, man,

757
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: niggas them tricked? Does so? Now the young niggas is

758
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: being tricked. And to think about them being tricked compared

759
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: to us, Homie, they don't give second chances no more, Nigga,

760
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: we got a chance to come home before thirty and forty.

761
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: These young niggas who shoot them guns, now, Homie, they

762
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: down there guaranteed to be locked up to their forty

763
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: when the eighteen nineteen because the whole objective of the

764
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: criminal justice system is to take you and put you

765
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: away during what they call your prime crime years. It

766
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: used to be fifteen and twenty five. They figured you'd

767
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: be twenty five. You good. Now nigga gets twelve to

768
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: forty For the young nigga, they're gonna keep them the

769
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: fifty because they think if they are really super predators,

770
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: so they ain't letting them nicks come home today almore

771
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: fifty from the charges that they're making today at eighteen

772
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty. So that's why I believe gangster chronicles. Uh.

773
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: In this podcast, man, and not just with this podcast.

774
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: You guys coming down off into the communities are walking

775
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: that path of redemption and try to undo some of

776
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: the wrongs so they can get the full story and

777
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: and see these real life action figures, uh who the

778
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: rappers rapped by, and they can get the hotel in

779
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: in in real life. They're not getting it in the movies.

780
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: They're not getting it on wax, they're not getting it

781
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: in the house, they're not getting it in the streets.

782
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: So it's it's up to those of us who who

783
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: who've made it out overcame went through and are now

784
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: doing to go back man, and and undo some things.

785
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: And the only way you can't do that, that's just

786
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: about telling the truth. I'm sitting here and listening to

787
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: y'all talk, man, Ain't they can tell me nothing bad

788
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: about prison to even make me not reconsidered to go,

789
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: m Yeah, what the thing is? It takes a real person,

790
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: see a person that really cared about you gonna tell

791
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: you the real I had two uncles that came up

792
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: in the penitemporary system. And that's the reason why I

793
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: can probably say I ain't never done no prison time,

794
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: you know. But it was because it was because I

795
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: had uncles who was in that prison system, and they

796
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: used to tell me, like, you know, that's not a

797
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: place that you want to go, because let me say that, No,

798
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: I didn't doe you was James. Hey, I'm gonna be

799
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: honest with you. A lot of gas went to prison

800
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: just to get the buzine niggas one of the live

801
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: weights because the big homie or the homie came out,

802
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: showed and they went to prison. But they found out

803
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: when they got there that no, motherfucker, this ain't no

804
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking l a fitting. It's coming up in here, mother

805
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: live with liable to not make it. You're not. You

806
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: might you might get some waste dropped on your head.

807
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: You might have somebody coming and and poke your as

808
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: because you don't there some file on the streets and

809
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: that paperwork came in there. So you had a lot

810
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: of cats trying to get the physique but didn't make it.

811
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: You had a lot of cats that coming in and

812
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: thought they was gonna be this type of person, but

813
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: wind up during the majority of their time and a

814
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: hole and a little bit of your ass. Sell ain't

815
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: no walking around no nothing. They let you out when

816
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: they want to that hour a day. A lot of

817
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: people broke behind that ship. They couldn't sit in the

818
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: selle twenty three hours a day and talk to their selves.

819
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: So a lot of motherfucker's doesn't understand prison until they

820
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: got there. And now your asses broke down. Now you're like,

821
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this ship? Now you got listen

822
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: to me. Now you got five big old your motherfucker's

823
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: coming at you and raping ebody on in one leg.

824
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: And and now they they're spreading jelly on your booty

825
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: and talking about for that ship. Yeah your ass why.

826
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of these cats they learned

827
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: their lessons. They don't want to go to you feel

828
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: You heard them stories and was like, fuck, no, huh,

829
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going no prison ni jelly on the nig

830
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: asshole I've got going on. Pri Hey, motherfucker's was getting

831
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: was straight getting jelly. And you can tell who the

832
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: booty vantage was got more like fuck that ship. I

833
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: heard stories like that for my uncle's and I was like, hell, dog,

834
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: that's a trip. I am not going to be taken.

835
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give your one true story and I'm gonna

836
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: make it quick. I got a homeboy named Smiley, been

837
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: in the penitentric this nineteen seventy four for murder every

838
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: all the homies that he knew that was coming in there,

839
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: besides the ones that he knew it was bona fide.

840
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: He sucked them. When when the motherfucker, when the motherfucker

841
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: got when the mother Yeah, that's how he was breaking

842
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: it down and keeping it in the hood. Yeah, it's

843
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: called breaking it down and keeping you in the hood.

844
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: So this dude, the police would get him. Anytime a

845
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker like pisched the police off, they would put them,

846
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: put that person in his cell, and and Smiley would

847
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: go to work on that ass. He don't got a

848
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: problem telling you. Yeah, fun niggers, he tell you, I

849
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: don't got a problem with it. If you're coming this

850
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: motherfucking you, ain't you ain't the homie or the homie

851
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: I know, nigger, your little ass's mind. And he was sucking.

852
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: He broke a whole lot of homies down by just

853
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: winding up in the same prison with this nigga. So

854
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: you have predators inside of prison that that don't listen.

855
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: The little niggas, the little niggas go on prison looking

856
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: for the big homie, say I'm such and such, and

857
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: he'll play on them kind of young niggas. Come on

858
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: in there, gentlemen, to put you in my shell. And

859
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you're here howling and ship

860
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: nigga holland and and and broke his fingernails in that

861
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: in that still door, the knock, the play off, that

862
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: motherfucker trying to get out of there. But them niggas been,

863
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: them niggas been in up seventy fold of stretch. They

864
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: dick the eighteen inches long, putting on that mothfa and

865
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: they dropping that dick off in your back, say say

866
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: we got tell ya true man, Yeah, God damn remembers

867
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: the stories that I heard. So then was the stories

868
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: I heard how Jamie's broke it down. That's how I

869
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: heard nothing new because my uncle Steve, I'm gonna tell

870
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: you what a lot of these niggas don't tell you

871
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: a lot of niggas see what happens in the hood.

872
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: These cats go to the prison, right and they go

873
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: to prison, they get they either become a Muslim, and

874
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: ain't not wrong with that. Some of them is authentic

875
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: with them some lilimes. They become a Muslim, they become

876
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: a Christian, or they joined one of them groups, or

877
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: I don't want my problems. That's gonna do my time.

878
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: So they do their live two years or three years

879
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: like that, hiding right, and they come home like I

880
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: was this big nigke of walking around the yard. But

881
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: you hear the truth. The truth eventually always comes out. Hey,

882
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: yeah all, you all, y'all have to do. It's looked at.

883
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: We can. We can bleep his name out when we

884
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: can edit this part. Look him up on the internet

885
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna come up booty bandit, and you'll be

886
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: surprised at the things he did. And these kids need

887
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: to learn and understand. Just because you think you hard,

888
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: it's somebody harder than your ass. And when you go

889
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: to prison, you're gonna run into that motherfucker that's harder

890
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: than you, that got them squabbles at sixty five years old.

891
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: The motherfucker's been in jail twenty thirty years. They didn't shape,

892
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: they're ready. You're going there with that little attitude you

893
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: had on the street and get tapped, because if they

894
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: knocked y'all, they're gonna fu some of them. So it's

895
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: unfortunate or it's unfortunate that we got you know still

896
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: because you know, we all were young men at one

897
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: point in time, so you know how our mentalities was.

898
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: You know, James, you when you was banging, uh, you

899
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: know my mentality as a youngster, you know, joining the

900
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: gang or whatever. But you know, and I could say

901
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: it was a lot of the times it was trying

902
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: to be uh belonged to something, like I said, no

903
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: father in the house, no older brother, no ship like that. So, um,

904
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that some of our youth have to go

905
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: through the situation of having to take that path. And uh,

906
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: if there were opportunities presented, hopefully that's some of these

907
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: used that you can catch them young. You know, I

908
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: coach football. You know I see a lot of you know,

909
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: I go from the age of five all the way

910
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: up to four team. So you know, you see some

911
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: of the boys who you know a little rough around

912
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: the edges, you know, cussing that eleven years old and

913
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: fuck you this and your mama this, and you know,

914
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: so you could tell the motherfucker's who have already been

915
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: uh around or familiar with with the ship, you know,

916
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: go to school and they hanging with the rough kids

917
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, So I would have problems sometimes

918
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: with some of the kids wanting to fight each other,

919
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: some of the kids being from different areas, you know,

920
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: or just some of the kids just not liking motherfucker's period.

921
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: So we'll just try to bring them to a point

922
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: of just going. You know, we all in this ship,

923
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: you know, different side, different motherfucking areas. You know, some

924
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: of y'all got dads at home, some of y'all don't,

925
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: you know. But the banging ship, I would give them

926
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: incorporate stories about me banging and what I saw and

927
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: what I went through, and uh, there's opportunities that are

928
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: given to you kids nowadays that you should take the

929
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: opportunity un of these because like when I was growing up,

930
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: it was hard to play youth football, you know what

931
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because to the affiliations with gangs and where

932
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: you lived at you know, where I lived. I couldn't

933
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: go play for a team because they was across the

934
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: tracks in the enemy neighborhood. So you know, moms had

935
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: a fear of taking me over there to sign me up.

936
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of that's what we went through,

937
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: but it's presented now a little differently, and a lot

938
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: of us, you know, try to set up examples for

939
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: the youth. So that's what one of the things I do, um,

940
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, coach football and try to show kids even

941
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: though um, you know, they see me in movies and

942
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: they hear the row coach, you did woopy woop, and

943
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: you did this and you did that, you know, and

944
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: I always try to tell them, you know, everybody has

945
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: a choice and a different path to take, and don't

946
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: always look at the dude that's ahead of you to go.

947
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta take his path. You get me

948
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: because I didn't have nobody who gang banged in my

949
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: family at all. I did have no brothers or cousins

950
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: or uncle influences or my people stayed down south in Mississippi,

951
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: so my parents, my mom moved to California. So you know,

952
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: that's that's the introduction where that came from. So you know,

953
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: my sisters and my girl cousins, they fucked with all

954
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: the gang bangers. It's how I got introduced because I

955
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: wanted to. I want to have ship. I felt the protection,

956
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: I felt, the affiliation, I felt that you know, the belonging.

957
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: So that's what I saw as a kid because my

958
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: father wasn't around. I wasn't part of no programs or nothing,

959
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: or sports or nothing. And when you got sister and

960
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: cousins pulling up after school with the latest drug dealers

961
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: and they in the fancy cars and ship, there goes

962
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: my influence. You give me, that's my influence. Even though

963
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: moms was walking in the house every day, working the

964
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: nine to five and struggling and trying to put food

965
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: on the table. But my influences was the niggas down

966
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: the corner with the fancy cars and who my sister

967
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: and then was pulling up with. So it could take

968
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: your turn. Because even though like I said, myns was

969
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: in the church, put food on the table every day,

970
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: work two jobs. You get me. You know, wasn't no

971
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: rats and roaches and all that type of ship. But

972
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: I still felt growing up in Compton because gang banging

973
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: was that connection I felt to be longing. You feel me, Uh,

974
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: niggas watching my back, I'm watching a back and that ship.

975
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: So as a youth, you couldn't You couldn't tell me ship.

976
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: As a as a thirteen year old, you couldn't tell

977
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: me now have had my father been at home and

978
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: it's been a different lifestyle than I probably saw things differently,

979
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: like kids, do you know our typical kid when they

980
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: grow I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a football player,

981
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a basketball player. I'm gonna be a fireman.

982
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't fuck that ship. I was gonna

983
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: be one of the niggas down the street on the corner.

984
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: That's what I was for the big at twelve years old. Hey,

985
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. So if one of

986
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: those guys that was driving them nice cars are in

987
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: that low rider that just say when your sister was David,

988
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: if he would have came at you and told you

989
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: that this is not for you gang banging. Don't you

990
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: never gang bang and all of this other ship, would

991
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: you to believe in? Would you to follow that path

992
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: or listen to Probably because I didn't have no father

993
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: figures at the time, and I was a young kid

994
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: basically wanting to gravitate to who any any motherfucker who

995
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: took the time you feel me was banging and was

996
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: a hard ass nigga, and you knew he was in

997
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: the streets with the sacking he was affiliated, and the

998
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: nigga walked up to me and said, motherfucker, you bet not,

999
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: gang bang. I went off to start playing football or

1000
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: some ship like that, because the nigga is telling me

1001
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: that's affiliated. You noticed, nigga, he will don't know that.

1002
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: Nigga say you bet not. I was one of the

1003
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that go oh O G said you bet not.

1004
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: Let me go do something else then, because now I

1005
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: got the word about O G fucking with me every

1006
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: day that I'm out here trying to be something that

1007
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: he said, I can't fucking be. I didn't have that.

1008
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: I had niggas in my own age group. There was

1009
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: no older niggas around. I was hanging around the twelve

1010
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: thirteen year old niggas who wanted to bang too. So

1011
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: the niggas that came over with the sister in them,

1012
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: they was like, yeah, little nigga, what's haping it? Blah

1013
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm gonna take you to the hood next thing,

1014
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm accorded in. That's how I started banging.

1015
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: So that's where we need today. Encouragement supposed to say,

1016
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: come on join us, Come on, nigga, you can get everything.

1017
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: You really benefits being a game. A gang banger you got,

1018
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you for one K. You don't get

1019
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: none of that ship exactly in the good. And then

1020
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: after as a youth, you're influenced by you know, anybody,

1021
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: You could be fluenced by, anybody that you feel is official.

1022
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: You feel me, whether that's the local drug dealer, the

1023
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: local policeman, or the nigga on the corner who owned

1024
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: the motherfucking neighborhood store. You know, as a young kid,

1025
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: before you reach those depths of hell, if there's somebody

1026
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: significant that can put you on the right path. And

1027
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: that's what I try to do as far as with

1028
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: the football ship, because you see it, you know, you

1029
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: see niggas wanted the bang and they get there. You

1030
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: hear them whispering it or something because what's some blood?

1031
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: And you know you have to ask them. I check

1032
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: a nigger who said that ship? Where are you from? Motherfucker?

1033
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: If you don't take your that's home and study some

1034
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: books and go learn your fucking football plays for this

1035
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: game Saturday. And and that's what I try to you know,

1036
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: because it's not the right path, you know what I'm saying.

1037
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: And even though it's you know, like I said, I'm

1038
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: not wanting to talk because I was affiliated our gang bang.

1039
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: I sold drugs, I did it all, carried traps, bug

1040
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: did whatever. But the whole point about it is if

1041
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: there was a different lifestyle that I thought that would

1042
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: have gave me the same gratification as making money, feeling

1043
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: like I'm important a nigger from the hood representing, then

1044
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: I would have probably made that choice. But when you

1045
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: ain't got no dad in the house, your mom is

1046
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: working from eleven o'clock at night to seven in the morning.

1047
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Ship Uh man, Uh, it's a man named Mr Davis

1048
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: and Mr Davis working t y C for forty years.

1049
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: Do last right now? I just said Mr David's name. Man.

1050
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: Mr Davis was a uh. He was strict, but he

1051
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: was fair and we knew he cared and he wouldn't

1052
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: let the staff mistreat us, right, so we could so

1053
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: if if he man, man, we could go tell the

1054
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: staff on Mr Davis and man, he go jump on

1055
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: him like their students and I used to hear them

1056
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: always tell the staff members, y'all can't correct these kids.

1057
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: If you ain't got no relationship with you, first have

1058
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: to establish a relationship with the motherfucker you trying to

1059
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: correct and tell something too if you think that person

1060
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: receive what you're saying. So without no, without no relationship,

1061
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: there's no connection. Man, I don't want to hear not

1062
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: what you're about to say. Nick, you can't come home

1063
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: with me if you and my face chip. As a

1064
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: young nigga, I resent it because I want you to

1065
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: come home with me the same discipline, the same chastising,

1066
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: the same correction that you've given me. Man, you're just

1067
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: getting it to me right here, or youth counsel or

1068
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: writer here on a football field. Man, come home with me, Man,

1069
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: bring me home with you. Those are the type of

1070
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: things I would be saying as a young nig in

1071
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 1: my head, get my ass chewed out, mad any ting

1072
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: me out. But man, just what I've been wrolling all

1073
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: my life a man, and jump on me and tell

1074
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: me I'm doing wrong right now and and and that's

1075
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: something you do. Five six kids been in the night

1076
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: at my house. You know every weekend. You didn't know

1077
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: because of a lot of the kids didn't have dads

1078
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: or you know, dads didn't show up to practice or games.

1079
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: And you know, and I have my son playing with

1080
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: me because I want to show motherfucker's that we as

1081
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: black men do have that connection with with our sons

1082
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: in the household. So that was one of my reasons

1083
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: for coaching and coaching with my son, uh, is to

1084
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: show that you know, there's a father, there's a son,

1085
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: You got that lifestyle here. So and then I wouldn't

1086
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: want kids to feel alienated by that. Either. You get

1087
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: a ship. Karan got coached eight here, you know, with

1088
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: his dad, and they get to go home every day

1089
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: and you see our coach eight always on him and

1090
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: you know with his shoes and his he carry his

1091
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: equipment after practice and you know, so kids with Coach eight,

1092
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: can I come spend the night over your house this weekend?

1093
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: Or I'll be like, yeah, jump in the car, can

1094
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: I come? So I have five six kids at the house,

1095
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and I've never been

1096
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: um one to brag about it, but these kids are sixteen,

1097
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: seventeen years old and I got four of them in

1098
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: the room right now with my son. You give me.

1099
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: So that's the connection that I've had to where that

1100
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: as these kids grow up, they still have the connection

1101
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: to me as a father figure in the coach that

1102
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: they still even that they're in high schools and they

1103
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: all go to different high schools. Now ship every weekend,

1104
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: these kids is at my house chilling. You get me

1105
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: that that's the connection that I feel that I had

1106
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: to give back to as far as knowing the way

1107
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: I grew up. Not to say I was fi their

1108
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 1: list because my father was still around, but he wasn't

1109
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: in the home and it made a significant difference. Say, ay, now,

1110
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: this is what I want to say to all the

1111
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: football coaches. Man, you say, man, you niggas are you

1112
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: guys are the ones who stopped the future violence? Right? Uh,

1113
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: there's a guy by the name of Big Dome Or

1114
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: He coach litt league football in this city for a

1115
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: long time and once he got into politics, our local

1116
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: mayor and a few of our city council members went

1117
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: to California and they got this this v IP gang

1118
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: programs and does with gang bollers. So man, they don't

1119
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: realize all the young niggas that's doing the shooting and killing,

1120
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: all the ones play little league football together, so they

1121
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't got done. Man, Big don't can show up anywhere

1122
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: and ain't what's up coach. Don't all the young niggas

1123
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: know him, so he didn't been proven to be one

1124
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: of the most effective youth engagement people in the city

1125
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: from having coach little league football because you know, I

1126
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: met all the young niggles. It's a good start, and

1127
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: especially if you could get programs like that, because let's

1128
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: face it, you know, we we were kind of uh

1129
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: are are our nation is gifted at at sports, you know,

1130
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: in those areas. You know, so if you can catch

1131
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: them young five six years old. And the whole thing

1132
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: about it is, we should have programs like that in

1133
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: the city. I mean, we we have them, but like

1134
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: I said, when I grew up, it was difficult because

1135
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: of neighborhood boundaries in areas dudes affiliated. But I think

1136
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: if that was something, uh that could be brought to

1137
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: the forefront in the city, and it could be you know,

1138
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: to the point because it's real big among kids. You

1139
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: you just don't know how kids light up when they

1140
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: get to put on uniforms or be participants in the

1141
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: team or whatever. So I encourage a lot of single parents,

1142
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: whether their moms or dad's you know, try to sign

1143
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: your son up or kids up or daughters up. For

1144
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: some kind of its activities. It gets them out the house.

1145
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: It teaches them team you know, teamwork. It teaches them

1146
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: how to uh, It teaches them how to uh a

1147
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: deal with certain situations adversity. It teaches you how to

1148
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: get along with people outside of your own area, you

1149
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: get me. So it's a good thing. Sometimes it's costly,

1150
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: but that's another thing I believe in. You know, sports

1151
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: can get our kids out of a lot of situations

1152
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: because as you see, a lot of these kids that's

1153
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: coming up now come from these situations. You know, a

1154
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: lot of our sports figures, you know, come from a

1155
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: lot of broken homes and poverty areas and gang infested situations.

1156
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: So if that was offered to a lot, you know,

1157
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: it's costly, a lot of people can't afford it. But

1158
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: we gotta find a way to be able to bring

1159
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: that to the forefront too, because if we can give

1160
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: kids a different influence in a different path than what

1161
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: they see. Like I said, I'm I'm I'm I'm a musician.

1162
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: You know, I made records you know, drive by Miss

1163
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: Daisy and where We from the Hood and all that

1164
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: type of ship because it was an expression of what

1165
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: I saw growing up. So that's why I made those

1166
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: type of records. But if you give you an opportunity,

1167
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: then what they see because you know, a lot of

1168
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: the music is pop, some pills, pop a gun, you know,

1169
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: stroke your woman, fuck your bitch, let's go get money,

1170
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: and I get it, you know, free mus three E

1171
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: suppression or whatever. But a lot of these kids gravitate

1172
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: to it. I got a son, you know, he listened

1173
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: to a lot of that ship. He's influenced. Not that

1174
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: he's going to go out and pick up a gun

1175
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: or think that you gotta drive a Lamborghini to be somebody,

1176
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: but they are influenced. That's why I put him in

1177
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: football at five. His influences football, you get me. He

1178
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: still listen to rap music and he still listened to

1179
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: it and whatever whatever. But it's number one influences football.

1180
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's not uh, it's it's not who's hanging

1181
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: on the block, or let's go over here and hang

1182
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: or whatever his ship is. Let's go train, go work,

1183
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: let's go through some passes, let's go get you know. Sorry,

1184
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: If if the kids are put on a path of

1185
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: something that can catch their influence young, then I think

1186
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: it could keep a lot of them out of that lifestyle. Yeah,

1187
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: and he says earlier, he said some I'm earlier about

1188
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: the you know, little league football being costly and most

1189
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: of the time it's either have to be on the

1190
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: parents or the the little league organization to take the

1191
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: supplement right the cost. So with our challenge most people

1192
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: in the hood, in the black community, man, uh, let's

1193
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: create a booster club. Why black folks ain't got no

1194
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: booster club man for the for the little leg sporting

1195
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: sports teams. Whether that's your your local, whether that's the

1196
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: local h black businesses that's in that area, or if

1197
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: there's just the people we know who know we coach

1198
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: little league football to know there's a little league football

1199
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: team in our community. Were Man, we make monthly donation

1200
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: to a little league team. So man, that we all

1201
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: don't have it to give a lot one time, but

1202
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: we all gave something. Uh some of the time. Man,

1203
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: we'll take a burden off these coaches and these single

1204
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: mothers just trying to get their kids, Uh in some

1205
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: programs that's viable. Well, it's a question I got for Jesse, Like, um,

1206
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: you know they talked about a lot of money that

1207
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: takes the supplement, you know, the programs to get you know,

1208
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: kids out of the house. I'm pretty sure the government

1209
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: has some kind of money for that man, some kind

1210
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: of granted something like that. The way you can go

1211
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: cover costs something like that. We talked about that earlier.

1212
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: And here for worth they call a CCPD is funny um.

1213
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: And that's through your your local police department, your sheriff department. Actually,

1214
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: just just a while ago, I got a phone call.

1215
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: I missed the phone call from the sriff because I

1216
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: call him earlier to talk to him about the Father

1217
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: of the Father program. I just missed his call up

1218
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: here while we were while we were talking. But that's

1219
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: what you have to do. You have to get in

1220
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: there with those politicians like you sl Nobody would ever

1221
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: think about, I need to go to the sheriff to

1222
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: get some help. That's your county jail. Right then the

1223
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: niggers in the county, you create program for them niggers.

1224
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: And there's where you're your local funding comes from. That's

1225
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: that's your county funding. Right then you got state funding.

1226
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: That's your state government. Whoever your local state congressman is

1227
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: over whatever districut. That's when when when when you hear

1228
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: politicians say, well, they earmark fifty million dollars for uh

1229
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: chicken FECs project. I mean, they gave fifty million dollars

1230
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: to somebody to go to study chicken ships. So so

1231
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: so when I told, when I said earlier that the

1232
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: California Police Department has a nine hundred million dollar budget

1233
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: for a police department, they're not spending all that money.

1234
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: So a lot of that money is just sitting that

1235
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: belongs to us, but we don't know how to go

1236
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: solicit those funds. So with this new stimulus package, right

1237
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: that that they just put the forwards is nine hundred

1238
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Man, four hundred four hundred billion is for

1239
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: inner city projects. It's for but we don't know about it, right,

1240
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: We ain't read the twenty three page stimulus package bill. Man,

1241
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: they got money it for us just to go create

1242
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: a community garden. So just say, if I got a

1243
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: football team called the east Side Falcons, the east Side

1244
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: Falcons can go create a community garden in their community

1245
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: and just plant greens and in all opinios and get

1246
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: down there. Forty fifty tho dollars for just an inner

1247
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: city community grant. Niggas who like growing weed. They can

1248
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: also go up under that nine hundred billion dollars. So

1249
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: we're not we two bars to squabbling about the social

1250
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: injustices that would happen to us. So we forget to

1251
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: try to follow the money, how to get to the money,

1252
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: and we get to the money, we cry about them

1253
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: kicking this and I asked, we got some money. But yeah, man,

1254
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: So uh, that's the idea of the people with the

1255
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: non profits. Uh, the people, uh, the the young ladies

1256
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: in the community who work at the banks, your local banks. Uh.

1257
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: If you gotta Chick fil A, you gotta Subway McDonald's. Man.

1258
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: McDonald's is one of the biggest corporate sponsorships of hip

1259
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: hop music and black radio. Man. That's supposed to those

1260
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: local businesses supposed to be giving something back to it.

1261
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: That's why they're sitting in our communities, but in the

1262
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: churches as well. But we don't know how to go

1263
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: ask for the money. So that's so that's because there's

1264
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: there's not too many edges. That's like you said, there's

1265
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: not too many of there's not too many educated brothers

1266
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 1: on the subject of the matter. You know, we're so

1267
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 1: diff be worried about that six hundred dollar check instead

1268
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: of worrying about going to create a fund. Yeah. So

1269
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: so that's where So that's where we're coming in, Uncle

1270
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: hitting up, come in with the corporate ships in the

1271
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: Brandon game. We got the political game, we got the

1272
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: criminal justice game. So now we got everything we need. Okay,

1273
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: we can go get the funds. And now when we

1274
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: submit the grand proposals, we got, uh, we got a

1275
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: collaboration of a network of people, not just in one state,

1276
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: but the two states. So they're just gonna leave us

1277
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: on a on on our state. For man, we get

1278
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: federal phones, how we call how we collaborate now with

1279
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: this gang intervention, gang prevention, public safety between Texas and

1280
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: California program exactly. Man, you know, but before we before

1281
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: we cut it, man, because this is a very interesting

1282
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: and needed conversation that we all have. And Man, I

1283
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: gotta ask you something, man, because I noticed and it's

1284
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: become you know, we talk about young people being you know,

1285
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: admiring those you know, hood figures, the major figures in

1286
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: their neighborhoods. Right. I know, it's a trend, man, of

1287
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: what these young people. Man um the words snitch has

1288
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: become like a defense mechanism for them. As soon as

1289
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: somebody do something they like that they have an enemy

1290
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: of confrontation with somebody. Oh you're a snitch. They call

1291
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: the grandma. They called their grandmama. Snitches. You called the polia.

1292
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: Granted you snitch, don't know, so they think they grandmama. Yeah.

1293
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: So so that's the thing. And I think, like I said,

1294
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: it's become the go to defend mechanism for a young person,

1295
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: not even a young person, because I see some of

1296
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: these other days, Oh here is snitch. I won't establishment

1297
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: you don't here because we don't talk about this multiple times,

1298
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: and it seems like that these knuckleheads still out they

1299
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: don't get it. The only way you can be first

1300
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: of all, the only way you can be considered as

1301
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: a snick is if you are a person engaged in crime.

1302
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: If you are a criminal and choose to the the

1303
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: um devote yourself to underworld activities. Me and Charleston go

1304
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: rob a bank, I get caught, Charleston get away here

1305
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: back in Texas, chilling, and they tell me, oh man,

1306
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: you know what what we know you wouldn't buy yourself.

1307
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: Oh man, eight was with me, um and Charleston with me.

1308
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, ain't got the majority of

1309
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I work

1310
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: a deal out, not get out and they come and

1311
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: get y'all right, that is snising. If I am a

1312
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: law abiding citizen and I am walking into my house

1313
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: and somebody's following me home, they put a pistol in

1314
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: the back of mine. He had tied me up and

1315
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: take everything out, and I know it's the nigga up

1316
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: the street. Police come to my house and call me, right,

1317
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, they come over and take it. Report man,

1318
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: that nigga John Do up the street tied me up

1319
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: to do it. That dude is not a snitch. He

1320
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: is not asking for that. He's not a thing. So

1321
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: we recently had a situation where you have what's the

1322
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: cast name to where the rents in his hair and

1323
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: dressed like a girl. Uh yeah, south sau sauthy walking

1324
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: south walker. Yeah, you and him just had a thing

1325
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: to where he accused you with some stuff, didn't he. Yeah? Yeah, man,

1326
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: you know I've been man, I've been community active and

1327
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: right I'm I've been I've been community leader. Uh Man.

1328
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,879
Speaker 1: I do training for the U. S. Department of Homeland Security.

1329
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: I trained the States doing the correction officers I work

1330
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: with man, so you know what I do the community thing,

1331
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: right with the politicians and stuff. So a lot of

1332
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: times when I do, I'm very vocal about the shootings

1333
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: and the depths and that in the overdose that take

1334
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: place in in the city and in my community. So

1335
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm vocal about it. So a lot of times I'm

1336
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna Facebook talking and it's you know, some niggers to

1337
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: get on there. They want a gang bang on me,

1338
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: hold me on the internet. You know. They get on

1339
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: there telling me they about the some ninety three bloods

1340
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: and I'm some killers dish and they barking real loud

1341
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: and they scared me. Well, man, I'm a law bidy citizen. Man,

1342
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't want no problem with no gangs. And I'm

1343
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: just talking about community activism. So motherfucker telling me, nigga,

1344
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt you, I'm gonna do this to you. Well, man,

1345
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm a law bidy citizen. You can't threaten me and

1346
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: tell me what you're gonna do. Now. I don't watch

1347
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: enough for for the eight where if I got to

1348
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: go kill that nigger. People want to know what if

1349
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: he threatened you and you fear for your life? But

1350
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: why didn't you make a report? So so I don't

1351
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: have to use no bond money, so I don't have

1352
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: to go get no lawyer, didn't have to wait for

1353
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: the grand jury to know building or have to go

1354
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: to trial and try to prove I would self defense

1355
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: men rather than killing the black man is on the

1356
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: internet threatened me to couple my tracks. I wonna just

1357
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: go make a report. I ain't gonna press no charge

1358
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: with no terroristic thread. I'm gonna go tell them. People

1359
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: say that bad motherfucker over the threat me and he said,

1360
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do to me? So next time? Man? Yeah? Man,

1361
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: So that's all I'm doing. Man, I want to stand here,

1362
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: tell you what you're you're a smart man, because what

1363
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: that does and people ain't understanding it creates a paper

1364
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: track and over there Jeff defense like a motherfucker. So

1365
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: that's that's where didn't get that from. You know, nigga

1366
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: do all the threat and so I don't take threats

1367
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: light me, nig then you can't play with me by threatning.

1368
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go because I gotta keep doing the

1369
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: community world. How I'm gonna let the nigg in the

1370
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: streets tricked me to come in the streets and play

1371
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: his street route. I'm gonna lose. I made it out,

1372
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: so how I'm gonna let them nigga tricked me into

1373
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 1: going back. So what happened was I got tired of

1374
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: making them complaints. It's going down, They're fetting out the paperwork.

1375
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: So I had like five blood niggas drive from three

1376
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: cities and come down off of my neighborhood playing super

1377
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: lowedown bloods right, and what they gonna do to me?

1378
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: They brought guns and everything, and they called and told

1379
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: me they would go do it. So I beat them

1380
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: down there and got set up, and when they showed up,

1381
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: I jumped out the bushes and two days later I'm

1382
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: the only one in jail would would aggravate the salt

1383
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 1: with it, that the weather man. So I'm not on

1384
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: three bones right now because I left some niggers on

1385
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: the internet tricked me and the playing gangster. And when

1386
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: I got gangster, oh man, I got to spend all

1387
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: this money now man, So yeah, so now man, I'm

1388
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell it. Man, fun you, I'm gonna go tell

1389
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: it's a bad, bad, bad thing. He would go do

1390
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: something to me bad. So I wanna let you choke man.

1391
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: He's a bad man over there. So I'm law biding citizens.

1392
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: I've got a bad bad he bore. I'm a good

1393
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm a p t a dad. And then I go

1394
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: to the PTA meeting exactly like I go to PTA

1395
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: meetings and kid football games. I'm not spending and you

1396
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: talk about killing the digging good me up and fucking

1397
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: hanging me at all comedy ship, let me put down.

1398
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: Want to remind me of the worst days of our life,

1399
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: nigger the nineties? You want to take me back to

1400
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: the nineties when it was niced and then scattered them

1401
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of niggas from the nineties. Yeah, you know, that

1402
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: just goes to me. That just goes to show the

1403
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: ignorance of of of some Niggers who feel like, I

1404
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: don't give funk. If you are a hundred years old,

1405
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 1: you're still supposed to play by the street rules or where.

1406
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: But I'm a hundred years old, you get me. I

1407
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,440
Speaker 1: ain't been in the streets in fifty years. Yeah, I'm

1408
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: raising grandkids and I'm over here being being normal. Mr Rogers,

1409
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: stop talking to me. About nigger. You're gonna bust on

1410
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: me and you're gonna do and and douz blood I'm

1411
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: from this and I'm like, dude, I'm walking on the

1412
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: cane right now. You still got a problem with me?

1413
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: Like what the funk? So I get it, But it's

1414
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: the level of how people huts that you're still supposed

1415
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: to be street affiliated. So if I tell you I'm

1416
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: gonna kill you, nigga, you bet not gonna tell nobody,

1417
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: especially want to sing yourself, because, like you said, the

1418
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: niggas from wherever road down on you and appairly they

1419
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: thought she was to play play nigga. And when you

1420
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: came back out on him and showed him that it

1421
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 1: wasn't the game. Now they running to the police and

1422
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: telling on you. Oh he ain't that a trip? So

1423
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: so they come to get you and you wind up

1424
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: doing some time. Oh man, I'm not on bone right now. Man,

1425
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: it's been over years, so I'm not on bone right now. Man,

1426
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: Try and get And ain't that the situation that the

1427
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: hardest motherfucker will try to test you. But then when

1428
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: you show the motherfucker I ain't to be fucked with,

1429
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: they be the ones who run and get the telling

1430
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: the hole store tell a lot of motherfuckers too. You know.

1431
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta watch who it is because the

1432
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: hardest motherfucker be the weakest motherfucker in a in a

1433
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: different situation. Yeah, man, so yeah, I'm I'm fighting in

1434
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: cases right now. Man, So ship up. But it's looking

1435
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: good on my behad though. Yeah, you know, And that's

1436
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: the thing I just wanted to put that out there

1437
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: for your young people. Man, you gotta be careful going

1438
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 1: online making idle thrits because when you're threaten somebody online

1439
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: and don't think because you press the delete button that's

1440
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: going away. No, because like you said, First forty eight

1441
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: and all the other shows and just detective work has

1442
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: proven that you don't get away with nothing was done.

1443
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: The dirt will always come to light, and I always

1444
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: want that. I'm gonna say one thing to the youth

1445
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: tool on that type of situation coming from that. Stop

1446
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: stop feeling like you know, um, egos gotta put you

1447
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: in the in the egos to put you in the

1448
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: fucked up situation. So um, stop feeling like you gotta

1449
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: test the motherfucker to prove your ship, because you could

1450
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: be a humble, motherfucking cool too and still get a

1451
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: lot of respect. Yeah, stop beefing with niggas you don't

1452
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: know over this bullshit? So what fuck it? If for

1453
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: nigga live across town, So what why you? Why are

1454
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: you stop? Just stop beefing with niggas over because this

1455
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: nigga put out a rap song and you gotta rap song,

1456
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: or this nigga live over here and you live over here.

1457
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: The young niggas gotta stop learning how to beef just

1458
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 1: because it's in the air, like fuck it. Oh what

1459
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: the nigga's over there wrapping two or nigga fuck their crew.

1460
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: Nigga were harder than that next thing. You know, niggas

1461
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: is beefing on but the internet ship. So just learning

1462
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: to curve that ship. Man, Just learn to kirk because,

1463
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of a lot of niggas

1464
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: is getting killed and a lot of niggas is dying

1465
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: and dropping because the egos. It ain't even because the

1466
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: real beef, it's just because the egos. Nowadays, you know,

1467
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: a month, nigga want to prove that they're harder than

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01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: the next nigga, whether it comes to music, sports or

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01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: just trying to hang in the month sucking neighborhood and ship.

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: You get me, we had we had real uh soociated

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: beef and ship when I was gang banging whatever you

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: want to call it, but it's still was was was

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: a lot of silliness. What's next for you guys, oh, man,

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01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: the father of the Father's program or there's being introduced.

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01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: So just as soon as we get off, man, Mr Taylor,

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: go be hitting up. Sure if be a waiver to

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01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: shout out to suff be awaiver man. Uh. Hopefully we

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01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: can get these programs introduced into the county jails. With

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01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: these father the Father's program, Man, we can be able

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: to offer young brothers, uh, some of the same assistance

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: that single mothers get by way of trying to introduce policies. Man.

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01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: And the first thing we need to do, man is

1483
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: is is get the child support system out of the

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01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: criminal system. We have to stop criminalizing for that. So,

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01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: so that's dumb ship that they could have came up with.

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01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: It's taking prit people's licenses and all that ship downport.

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01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: You can't world that ship as dumb as hell? How

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01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: the funk am I supposed to get to work? If

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna take my driver's license we'll be taking and

1490
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: let for ninety percent of the jobs you get, you

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: gotta drive. The fucking don't get to work if you

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: want to take my drive. And then another thing, Now

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: you're going to create a whole bunch of fucking criminal

1494
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: bullshit because how many niggas ain't for the fucking drive.

1495
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna get in my car and drive over.

1496
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: And now I got a motherfucking ticket and got to

1497
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: go to jail forfended license for not paying some money,

1498
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: not because I was drunk and hit of motherfucker, not

1499
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: because I didn't crashed on the highway or something. You

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01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: want to take my license because of some fucking money.

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01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: That was the dumbest ship ever. Whoever made that ship,

1502
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: they need to get rid of that ship everywhere. So

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01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 1: that's the plan, man. So once we once week before,

1504
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: once we feel like we can restore the fathers man,

1505
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: then we can start working on the community. I'm gonna

1506
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, where can they find I know I

1507
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: asked you first, where can they find you at? Online

1508
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: Charleston Man, my my YouTube, the official Charleston White Instagram

1509
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: or the official Charleston White and then Facebook, Charleston White.

1510
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: Are your Instagram, Yes, Sir atles at Charleston J. White.

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01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: All right, sure, how about you sir on Facebook? Just

1512
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: to table, Just to table, just so so people can't

1513
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: reach out to you guys if they have any questions

1514
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: about the program that you offer. Eight one seven seven

1515
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: nine eight five one five three you just get a

1516
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: number out on their hum Yeah. Man, he actually hey,

1517
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: Mr Taylor actually has a whole youth a ranch, man.

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01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: You gotta he got about an acre and a half

1519
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: of land. Uh. He got a facility where they can

1520
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: learn to work on cars. You got another facility, man,

1521
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: where they can dig their own a little low pond

1522
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: and creek and do the water irrigation. He got another

1523
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: low side where you can do your holder coach in

1524
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: Landstadent do you some farming. Uh So he got a

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 1: whole little little facility for kids. Man. Were returned to

1526
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: a summercount. So that's what we tried to do prior

1527
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: to the coronavirus hitting at the start of this year.

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, you as long as you teach your kids

1529
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: and then you go a long way. Basically what I do, man,

1530
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm just sure trying to give back to some stuff

1531
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: that I've done a long time ago. Man, I got

1532
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: in this. I got this man, my son, I used

1533
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: to be. I used to be a drug deal on myself. Man,

1534
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 1: and my son seen some things as you at a

1535
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: young age. Man, And I asked him when we got older,

1536
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: because I see him started doing the same thing, and

1537
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: he's seen some of the trouble I got into. And

1538
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: I asked him one day, I say, son, Man, I said,

1539
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: why do you why are you doing this? Why are

1540
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: you going on the same road without going down? And

1541
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: you've seen the trouble out that that that that it

1542
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: caused me. He he cocked his head and he said, Dad,

1543
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: He said, Man, when I was young, one day, he said,

1544
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: you told me to going there and get that bag

1545
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: duffel bag out. He said, you told me not looking it,

1546
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: he said, But I looked in it, and I've seen

1547
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: a bag full of money. He said, Dad. It was

1548
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: just then, Man, I've been chasing that bag full of money.

1549
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: So man, when he when he said it tim me, Man,

1550
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 1: it touched me, you know. And that's when I was like, well,

1551
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: if I influence my son you know this way, then

1552
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't influence a whole bunch of these other you

1553
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: The young guys around here, you know, with the flashy

1554
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: called the women to go, you know how how the

1555
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: dope deal a go. You know. So from that part

1556
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: on and I had to change everything. Man, I was like,

1557
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: I gotta show, I gotta show my son. I don't

1558
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: want the sun or something. All these other young boys

1559
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: are heard something different too. Well. That concludes another episode

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01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the

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01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,519
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01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles podcast and

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,720
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Speaker 1: visual media directors Brian White, and audio editors Taylor Hayes.

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