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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: you by Balley Beck, coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Alright, let's do a line on a first

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Speaker 1: rind Americle edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely

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Speaker 1: bow he is the great z Gibbe is here? We

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Speaker 1: have wines? How you living, buddy? Oh baby? Well, why

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Speaker 1: I would be? I would be batterfies in the president

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Speaker 1: of some presence of some delicious veno. There's a delicious

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Speaker 1: vino here. It's here on here, it's here on set

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Speaker 1: appears to be. I guess the gimmick here is that

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Speaker 1: I will drink all three bottles in the next two hours.

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Speaker 1: Is that what we're gonna try? I mean, I'm in

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Speaker 1: That's what I told Wendy r cp rep. I said

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Speaker 1: to do it, don't I'll just pound all three of

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Speaker 1: these in two hours. We'll really have a great show. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the sparkling one, there's a m Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: champagna that would be the mix and that then I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want I mean, there's two reds here. There's a

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Speaker 1: cab and then there's a red blend Um and I

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Speaker 1: think the as long as the first, I could do

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Speaker 1: the two bottles of wine in an hour and they'd

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Speaker 1: be nothing. This is compliments a Brownstown Napa Valley. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into it, but they have We now have a

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Speaker 1: wine club. We have an official wine club. Let's give

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Speaker 1: the people what they want. I think we've been doing

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Speaker 1: it for a couple at least another a year or ago,

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Speaker 1: because remember Bo got that nice box, but then I

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Speaker 1: never got a box. I don't remember a box of this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's still in there. I think it's still

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Speaker 1: in the studio. There's no box in here. There was

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Speaker 1: a wooden box at some point. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that Stevie took it. Maybe he did took it

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Speaker 1: and ran. He just took my wine anyway. Brownstown Napa

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Speaker 1: of three or six bottles per season delivered and Keepsake

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Speaker 1: Vintage Browns Fire branded wood wine crate boxes. Yes, exclusive,

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Speaker 1: so there is I mean there's a box here? Is

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Speaker 1: this my box? Gibbing? No, Wendy brought this in separate.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there is what there had that? What

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Speaker 1: have you just described that they started this last year?

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Speaker 1: I believe if I'm not mistaken, and we've done this

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Speaker 1: for and it was a rat I think it was

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Speaker 1: a rat, a white and a Champagnia in the three

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Speaker 1: bottle box and we had it was in the studio.

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Speaker 1: It might be on your rack underneath the sledgehammer. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling maccammer. There's a lot of things on that rad

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Speaker 1: I'm an invest podcast on that. I'm anna investigated to

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Speaker 1: see what happened, see if Stevie took it. Members get

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Speaker 1: discounted access to their online store. Spring release is happening

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Speaker 1: on April second, which is why we're talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Visit Brownstown uh nap dot com for more information. Signed

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Speaker 1: up for the Brownstown, Napa Valley Wine Club, I would

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Speaker 1: say that the branding on this is very good. I'm

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Speaker 1: holding a resolute Reserve Cabernet nap nineteen. Um. This is

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Speaker 1: a Calistoga so that's a lovely place. I've spent some

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Speaker 1: time in Calistoga. Lovely place. Was engaged. Oh, and then

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Speaker 1: another one is the Flats, which is a looks like

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Speaker 1: a red blend, which is very nice. It's a very

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Speaker 1: nice child. On the striping, Oh, the label the striping

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Speaker 1: then as I mentioned the Brute Champagna, the Reserve forty

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Speaker 1: labeling there, that's intense. It's beautiful. It's the first Friday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, packaging is great. Yeah, it's a big win,

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Speaker 1: big all right, So I'll have that. I'll have that

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Speaker 1: which leads me to believe that thousands of kids, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: take it. It's a two week spring break started this

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Speaker 1: for U, for my son, he also had the week

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Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a slog man and then this.

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Speaker 1: finally apparently all of the drought issues with California are

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Speaker 1: At the end of March, I should be seventy five.

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Speaker 1: is very very nice. We're off and running on a

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Speaker 1: As we go around the NFL, which do you think

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Speaker 1: will be done first? Rot We'll have resolution first, Rogers

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Speaker 1: or Lamar boy La Lamar not tough for Ziggura. It

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Speaker 1: is give me your reason why. I want to see

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Speaker 1: if it's the same answer I gave. Give me your

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Speaker 1: reason why I just think that there is a definitive

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Speaker 1: deadline for the Rogers deal that's by this year's draft,

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna want the Picks to help them this year.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine in green Bay, Um, even though they're

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Speaker 1: going to say with the leverage that no, we don't

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Speaker 1: need to do it at any time, we can hold

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Speaker 1: it all the way till September. It feels like that

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Speaker 1: will force that deal to get done by by that point.

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Speaker 1: And then with Lamar, I just feel like it's over already.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's toast. So where where are you? Gibb,

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Speaker 1: Are you Rogers or Lamar? Who gets stune? I would

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Speaker 1: say Lamar first, because I have right now, my confidence

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Speaker 1: level is not very high that this Roger thing gets done.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it should. There's fifty million reasons why

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Speaker 1: Green Bay should get it done, but um, I have

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Speaker 1: no This is slogging along and I don't know why

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Speaker 1: it's slogging along spite and the packers want their price. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you should get it. Well, they'll get they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a portion of it. I I went Jackson too,

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Speaker 1: and the reason I went Lamar was I just think

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Speaker 1: that that as an organization. And you guys saw the

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Speaker 1: story about how Lamar had a representative reach out to

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Speaker 1: him who was not certified as an agent. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: like it just goes back to and again this is

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Speaker 1: from thirty thousand feet. It appears to me that if

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Speaker 1: he just had great representation, somebody like the Agent to

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Speaker 1: the Stars, those type of people, you've got somebody like that,

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Speaker 1: they're not in this spot. None of this. It's done

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Speaker 1: one resolution. Either he's locked in long term and he's

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Speaker 1: happy to be a Raven for life, or he's gone.

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Speaker 1: It's done so quietly and it's gone. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's led to a lot of the of the of

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Speaker 1: what's happened on the Jackson. But I do think that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens will They're just such a well run organization

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Speaker 1: that they will have it sorted out by the draft.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna not. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go into the draft not knowing who's quarterbacking them.

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Speaker 1: The Packers aren't under a similar pressure. I think they

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Speaker 1: know Jordan Loves quarterbacking him. It's either Jordan Love, it's

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love regardless. The Jets don't know if it's Rogers regardless.

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Speaker 1: But the Packers aren't under the same type of construct

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Speaker 1: They could they could have the number one if they

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Speaker 1: get a one for Rogers, they could have it be

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Speaker 1: a next year's draft. They could. My guess is they

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Speaker 1: would want it now, right, agreed, But I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's as important as the Like the Ravens have a

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Speaker 1: roster that feels like they want to contend. Are they

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Speaker 1: really going to go into the draft not knowing who's

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking them? No, the Packers know who's quarterbacking them regardless, right,

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Speaker 1: And I just think, Lamar, I think everybody wants that

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Speaker 1: to be resolved as soon as it needs to be

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Speaker 1: to the for the reasons that you made. I feel

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Speaker 1: like in my answer I gave both sides of it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I mean, that's why I think

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Speaker 1: I think that one will be done much sooner rather

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Speaker 1: than later, because I think at some point it's either

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Speaker 1: going to be look, I'm not playing for you, so

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Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Or somebody's going to come

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Speaker 1: with an offer and say, I gotta get set up

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Speaker 1: for my season going into this draft? What am I doing?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, I think everybody involved

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Speaker 1: wherever he's playing, the team that he's the quarterback up

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Speaker 1: needs to know that there's their spite is a thing.

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Speaker 1: But in this case, the only leverage Lamar Jackson possibly

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Speaker 1: has is to four go thirty million dollars, which doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like a whole lot of leverage. If I'm the Packers,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you don't think this draft is great for

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Speaker 1: what you need. And that's why, Well, we're happy to

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Speaker 1: stockpile stuff for the year after and the year after

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Speaker 1: with the hope that Rogers flakes on the Jets a

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Speaker 1: year from now, the Jets suck and you get a

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Speaker 1: higher draft pick. Here's the thing. You're also saying, next

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Speaker 1: year's quarterback class is better. Right, So two things. Number one,

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Speaker 1: you maybe you say, all right, you'll give up Aaron

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Speaker 1: Ridders and you on all your assets in the future,

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Speaker 1: So you wait till after the draft, right. The Jets

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Speaker 1: probably would be more into that, and you, as for

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Speaker 1: the Packers, you're kind of saying, either Jordan Love's gonna

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Speaker 1: end up being amazing, or we're we're taking to get

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Speaker 1: a high first round pick and we're going to have

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Speaker 1: two of them now that we can use to maneuver

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Speaker 1: around with I have news, and it's good news involving

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Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. Go give it go. From Adam Schefter,

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Speaker 1: Brown's free agent linebacker Anthony Walker, who visited this week

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Speaker 1: with the Commanders, has agreed to return to Cleveland on

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Speaker 1: a one year CONTRACTS good, that's great, love it, Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, we um. I think we did a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job on the show this season of articulating

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Speaker 1: and illustrating his importance not only to the overall defense,

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Speaker 1: but to the young linebackers who signed up around him.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is about as good news as

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Speaker 1: you're gonna find. First of all, I love that. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing that I don't quite understand is

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Speaker 1: we've got let me just think off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head. Here, do you need me to pull up

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Speaker 1: a depth chart? Anthony Walker Jr. We are our top

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Speaker 1: four now, all back from a year ago under contract

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Fields at Tony Fields. I'm sorry, So that's

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Speaker 1: five linebackers, right, Phillips, taki Ousu, Coromo, Uh, Anthony Walker

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Speaker 1: and Fields we've signed. If I'm not mistaken, have we

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Speaker 1: signed three other linebackers at least yesterday? We signed when

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Speaker 1: yesterday with you Adams who was in with the Bears

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Speaker 1: and the Colts when Bubba Ventrone was there. We brought

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Speaker 1: we signed Kunashik yep uh. There's a story Jackson on

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Speaker 1: this no idea. Um, so that's that's already. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of We have seven linebackers right now. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's not that crazy for six spots and health and

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Speaker 1: all of those things that are you're going through. But

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Speaker 1: you have seven as that include the A walk No.

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Speaker 1: Eight County A Walk, a Woosa Koramo, Kunasik, Phillips, Adams,

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Speaker 1: the story Jackson, Tony Fields, Si Taki taki a walk.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know when. I don't know when Talkie

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Speaker 1: is going to be when he's going to bed. I

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Speaker 1: hope the talk he's able to be ready right away,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like that's going to take a little

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Speaker 1: bit more time. Sure, I think it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things where it really doesn't matter who you signed or

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Speaker 1: how many you have. This guy is going to be

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Speaker 1: one of the dudes weally hope. So you can sort

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Speaker 1: out the rest of it in camp yea. But this

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Speaker 1: guy starts next to Jay Okay and then that's where

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Speaker 1: you go from there. That would be my assumption as well.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad he is back and I know that.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I talked to him numerous times

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Speaker 1: this offseason. He was always here rehab and you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to get get his body ready for a season

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Speaker 1: to come back from that injury. And this is where

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Speaker 1: he wanted to be. So I'm glad. I'm very glad

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Speaker 1: that it worked out. I think we're all just kind

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Speaker 1: of waiting on the wide receiver news. You know, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we signed eight thousand linebackers, what about what's happening at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver? Mark He's Goodwin had a two day visit

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Speaker 1: that left without a deal being done. I know that

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Speaker 1: Micole Hardman is still in the mix. And then there's

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Speaker 1: this Jerry Judy trade. So there's so much still to

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Speaker 1: be worked out there. But you would think that at

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Speaker 1: this point. I mean, we've made so many moves this offseason.

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Speaker 1: We really have made a lot and a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's been retaining our own guys, but it's been heavily

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Speaker 1: defensive focused. Heavily defensive focused. Yeah, well new you know,

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing though, new coordinator. Ye here are

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Speaker 1: things that I want, Yeah, that we don't have. We

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Speaker 1: got to go get these things for me to be

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Speaker 1: able to have the success I want. And new special

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Speaker 1: teams coordinator, and I think that's why Matthew Adams is here.

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Speaker 1: We signed that corner that's I wasn't a linebacker. We

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Speaker 1: signed a corner who's a special teams guy from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of movement on that specialties.

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Speaker 1: But when you think about it, those are that's your

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Speaker 1: sixth linebacker, Mike Ford, that's your you know, fifth, sixth corner.

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Speaker 1: So we're already kind of fleshing out what a fifty

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Speaker 1: three could look like on this football team. And there's

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Speaker 1: still going to be some competition for some other spots.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be competition. Who of familiar names do they

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Speaker 1: make this team? Uh, you know at the defensive tackle spot,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott, Tommy Togi, do they make this football team?

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Speaker 1: Those are questions that we'll have to be answered. Linebacker,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a name that we know that

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Speaker 1: does not make this football team. I mean that's just

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Speaker 1: obvious the numbers right there. So it's a it's an

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Speaker 1: interesting situation, but you're pretty set on that side. Of

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Speaker 1: the ball with the exception of, you know, are do

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Speaker 1: you feel good enough in that edge room? Is there

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Speaker 1: somebody you'd like to draft to get in that defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle room that you like better than your current guys,

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Speaker 1: And then the rest would be, you know, we're got

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Speaker 1: three tight ends right now, is Jerome Ford ready to

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Speaker 1: take the reins as the number two running back? We've

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Speaker 1: sorted out backup quarterback with bringing you know, Dabbs back

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Speaker 1: receiver is really the question, maybe you know, a depth,

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Speaker 1: some depth a guard to a fourth tackle. Since you've

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Speaker 1: got your top three, there's not a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: holes necessarily going into the rest of free agency in

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Speaker 1: the draft in terms of you could roll out of

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster right now feel pretty good. Abo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's nice. It makes me happy to see that deal

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Speaker 1: done and to see him back, and I think it

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Speaker 1: makes it. It's gonna make a if he plays last

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Speaker 1: year a full year, the defense is different. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You can't argue anything other than that based on what

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Speaker 1: he was doing. Ben Roethlisberger with an interesting claim. He

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Speaker 1: claimed that he had discussions with the Niners last season.

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Speaker 1: On one of five point nine, Mark Madden he says,

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Speaker 1: they were I think reaching out maybe just to gauge

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Speaker 1: my interest. I had discussions. I'd be lying if I

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Speaker 1: say I didn't say there was a small part of

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Speaker 1: me that was intrigued. I could still do it, improved

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Speaker 1: to people that I could still play. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I just can't see myself and anything

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Speaker 1: other than black and gold. Do you buy that? Well,

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Speaker 1: it could have been red and gold. I do think

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Speaker 1: Kyle probably was thinking, hey, we have a team that

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Speaker 1: can go to the super Bowl, and if Brock Purdy

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Speaker 1: had had a couple of ugly games that, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: they would have brought him in. Roethlisberger understands how to

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Speaker 1: read defenses, and what he became at the end of

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Speaker 1: his career was a kind of see it one read,

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Speaker 1: get the ball out quick quarterback because he didn't have

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Speaker 1: that cannon anymore, and that would have worked just fine

635
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Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan's offense. Yeah, it's or Jimmy Garoppolo have cannon.

636
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, that actually does make a lot of sense

637
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: to me, And it would still make a lot of

638
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: sense to me if you know, they keep him in

639
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: the thought process for twenty twenty three to be honest

640
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Speaker 1: with you, Yeah, from the NFL Network. The Falcons are

641
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: playing host to Klaius Campbell this week. Recently least by

642
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens, who have kept the door open for his return.

643
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: The fifteen year vet met in Atlanta. He's been around

644
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Speaker 1: fifteen years, I guess, unbelieving sense, such a good player,

645
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Speaker 1: massive human, great guy on and off the field. I

646
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: think that his loss is a real loss for the

647
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens in the sense that he kind of was

648
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: in many ways a leader of that football team in

649
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: that organization, and you know a lot of people, it

650
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: feels like they're interested in going to Atlanta. What's their ceiling?

651
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they could win that division, but

652
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't seem like they're They're quite a loaded squad

653
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: at the moment. I feel like they should be going

654
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: on after someone else on the Ravens maybe will well

655
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: maybe they will, maybe they will. Maybe part of their

656
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: thing there with with him is, hey, what do you

657
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: know what he tell us about Lamar? And it would

658
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: be some package. Obviously it would involve Desmond Ritter would

659
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: be my guests if it was a sign and trade

660
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: type of a situation for the Ravens if they liked him,

661
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Speaker 1: because remember the Falcons have Ritter and then they signed Heinicky. Now,

662
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: none of that would preclude them if they decided, hey

663
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: we want Lamar Jackson. Yeah, that does feel like that

664
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Speaker 1: would be a good lay. If he ends up anywhere

665
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Speaker 1: in the NFC South, they're the immediate favorite and a

666
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Speaker 1: playoff lock pretty much. Yeah, it feels like it. I

667
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: mean New Orleans with car but yeah, it's that that

668
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: would be the They would be the front rother with

669
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Speaker 1: Lamar in either well, but it's it's the only place

670
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: is Atlanta Carolina? Right? Because Carolina number one? Yea, yeah,

671
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: yeah they're one, So it's Atlanta is really the only spot.

672
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: That's the other thing for Lamar. It's like, who are

673
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: the dance partners? Is it Miami? Is at Atlanta? Is

674
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: there somebody? Those two are mentioned most often, Indie, is

675
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: there somebody that we're missing that potentially could be? Um?

676
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: You know so that but those are the ones that

677
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: you hear most from on that front, are you guys?

678
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: You guys remember when Martin Short used to do the

679
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: character Jimminy Glick? Of course, do you remember this? So

680
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: I had never seen this. It just popped up on

681
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Speaker 1: my timeline. I have no idea why. It's one of

682
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Speaker 1: the four you things. It's Jimminy Glick interviewing Larry David

683
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Speaker 1: What now. I can't hear any of it, but I'm

684
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: just looking at the facial expressions and it feels like

685
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Speaker 1: something I can't believe I haven't seen. I'm stunned by it.

686
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Speaker 1: Is it new? I don't know, is it. I don't

687
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: think it's new. Maybe it is. I gotta I mean,

688
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Speaker 1: this feels like I mean, I can hardly even concentrate.

689
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the laughing. Yeah, we'll do a

690
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Speaker 1: little thing or not a thing up next. Let's to cleve.

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Speaker 1: little thing or not a thing? Hello, give a hi, boys,

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Speaker 1: give up Paula's give me a little traveling music under this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're playing it and I just can't hear it

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Speaker 1: because the board's not wired. Right, totally possible here, little

705
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: thing or not a thing on a Wednesday, otherwise known

706
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Speaker 1: as a first Friday. That's right, gibe, that's a thing,

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Speaker 1: work our way, working our way toward a legit Friday.

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Speaker 1: Next week. That's like getaway week with the two of you. Yeah, you,

709
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Speaker 1: gir you'll be here for a few Yeah, that's right.

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00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: That's right, well deserved sabbatically. We may never return. Uh. Finger,

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Speaker 1: not a thing? I found nothing? What did you say? Nothing?

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: He's safe, You're safe, all right, It's not something I

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Speaker 1: have to dump. Finger not a thing thing. Anthony Walker

714
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Junior fired up to come back. Source Anthony Walker Junior,

715
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, it was anytime. It was just so

716
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: painfully obvious if you if you just watched a little

717
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: tape and paid attention to difference when he was there

718
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: but he wasn't. Yeah, it was enormous it was. It's

719
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: all the sense in the world. Glad he's back. Uh,

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00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: let's see uh figuring out a thing. I've got a

721
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: couple of different topics for you all today. Uh. Bishop

722
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: will start with you, since just burst from your loins,

723
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Speaker 1: all right, matchmaking a few of the remaining top free

724
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: agents Lamar Jackson to the Lions, thing or not a thing? Well,

725
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: what would that look like? For that would have to

726
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: be one of those sign and trades, correct, So you'd

727
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: have to do, like, what does that look like? Is

728
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: that Goff to Baltimore? I don't know. I'm gonna say

729
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: not a thing because I think what I think Detroit

730
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: really likes what they have, and I think that if you,

731
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: they probably think Goff can be at the very least

732
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: what Cousins was in Minnesota, and that's plenty good enough

733
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: to win the NFC. Jared Goff led them into Green

734
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: Bay in a playoff game basically for the Packers and

735
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: beat Aaron Rodgers and played well last year. I think

736
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Speaker 1: it is not a thing. I agree with you. I

737
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: think they like what they have. I think they like

738
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: the way that everybody's grown in the same direction. Now, conversely,

739
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: if they were to sign him to an offer sheet

740
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: at that was not to be matched by the Ravens.

741
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: Now you'd have to do something with Goff on the

742
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: other end, and I don't know what his contract situation is,

743
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: but let's just play theoreticals. Right now, they have an

744
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: extra first round pick, correct. I think that's why soup

745
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: with them. So I just think they like what they're doing.

746
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I think that you know, you don't have Jamison Williams

747
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: and I'm on Ross Saint Brown and kind of what

748
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: they've assembled there. I think that they do like the

749
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: way that God throws the football, especially indoors. You're in

750
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: a division now that's got, you know, multiple indoor games.

751
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: He proved he could win in January in Lambeau. I

752
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: think they're quite content with what they have. I think

753
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: that Jared Goff is probably valued as highly inside that

754
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: building as he may be anywhere else. Thing or not

755
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: a thing? Number two, Ezekiel Elliott to the Chargers, Zigarrow,

756
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: you laid us off here on thing or not a thing?

757
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Who cares? He's done? He's he's toast. Who cares? Wow,

758
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: not a thing? Then you're saying no, he will not give.

759
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: Then what I'll tell you what if that is a thing,

760
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: if that ends up being a real thing, no way,

761
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: shape or form, does he give them what Austin Eckler

762
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: has given them None, No, no, no, totally different, totally different.

763
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: He was banged up last year, for sure, he's been

764
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: banged up for a while. Obviously he's lost a step.

765
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Speaker 1: I don't to me, that doesn't feel like I used

766
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: to think that maybe it would be Buffalo, but I

767
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: saw they saw Damien Harris, they signed him today. I

768
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: don't know where it's going to be for Zeke, I don't.

769
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Speaker 1: And if they think that, he would certainly not be

770
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: an apples to Apple's replacement for Eckler in any way.

771
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: He could be, you know, short down, he's good at

772
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: a couple of things. He's good at short down. He's

773
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: good out of the backfield. He's good at blitz pick up.

774
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the breakaway speed he used to have,

775
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have to make you miss he used to have.

776
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: But he's still he's still a viable NFL player, just

777
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: not it's unfortunately because of the rate he was at,

778
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: it was kind of skewed it a little bit. But

779
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: he's he's still a viable player, just in a very

780
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: different role than what he's accustomed to. He's averaged four

781
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: yards of carry for the last three seasons. I mean, yeah, hey,

782
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Speaker 1: I started off as Kurt going five point one, four

783
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: point seven, four point five, and then out it's four

784
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: point four point two, three point eight. He did have

785
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: a four point one in seventeen, but he was four

786
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: and a half and above three years in a row.

787
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: He's been coming off of career low three point eight

788
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: on on a team, mind you, where Tony Pollard was

789
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: well over five yards to carry in the same offense.

790
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: I think he's I think his goose is cooked. It's

791
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: a tough position, man, It's a tough position. Pollard, by

792
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: the way, last year five point two yards to carry.

793
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: The year before five point five, he averages over five

794
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: yards to carry for his career in the same span

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00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: that Zeke is basically at four yards to carry. Some

796
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: of that skewed by the goal line, like they always

797
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: hammered Zeke at the goal line over and over and over.

798
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: You got a lot of that, I think at a

799
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: short yardage stuff. Yeah, because they were bearing the two.

800
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that he got I wanted to see.

801
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: It was almost like a mandate from Jara, like inside

802
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: the five, Zeke gets it. There was a lotch is

803
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: great for him, which is why he has good touchdown numbers.

804
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean when you watched them, it was

805
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: readily apparent that wasn't comparing the two. Not not comparing

806
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: the two because they were on primetime. I don't know.

807
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Every week, Yeah, next up on thing or not a thing?

808
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: This week linebacker Bobby Wagner to the Bills. Would that

809
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: be a thing or not a thing? Bishop, I don't think.

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't I'm gonna say not a thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that. So who'd they didn't they lose? They lost

812
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: remain Edmunds, So he'd be a nice Yeah, yeah, I

813
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: think smoke about him going back to Seattle, that's one

814
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: to me makes more sense, like him going back to

815
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Seattle and you know one year in La like let's

816
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: go back home. I'm going back to Seattle. That seems

817
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: like more of a fit to me than Buffalo Zigura.

818
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Buffalo makes sense in that. Do they need

819
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: to get you know, Mike linebacker to play next to

820
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: Matt Milano with remained Edmund's gone, he would certainly do

821
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: that their team with Super Bowl aspirations. H if you

822
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: go to Seattle, I think it's it's more feel good.

823
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: What's the actual what's the goal, what's thet's let's the

824
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: upside for that team? I guess they could be a

825
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: playoff team, right, I mean they were yea the second

826
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: best team in the West. Yeah. Yeah, and they got

827
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: two first round draft picks to add to it, like, yeah,

828
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: they're right there. Sure up next stunt thing or not

829
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: a thing? Zigura your boy Theodore Teddy Bridgewater to the

830
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens thing or not a thing. I mean it

831
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: could be a thing as as a backupper's insurance policy here,

832
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: so that they felt like they had somebody that they

833
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: could play in the event that Lamar does leave. There's

834
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: somebody they can play and you know, win a few

835
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: games with. I think Teddy's best days are probably behind him.

836
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know really what happened with him in Miami.

837
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: He was always out, it felt like while Tah was out.

838
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure that Teddy Bridgewater has

839
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: much of a future at this juncture anymore. And he's

840
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: been the league almost you know, a decade. A horrific

841
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: injury never really we never know, it's kind of his

842
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: peak was really after he led the Vikings the playoffs

843
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: early in his career. Was you know, he filled in

844
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: so well for the Saints a couple of years ago

845
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: that you thought, Okay, maybe he's still got something. But

846
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I think Teddy Bridgewater, if he's

847
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: going to be successful, needs to be in a dom

848
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: er in very warm weather. And he'd get neither of

849
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: those in Baltimore. Not because he's cooked as a he's done.

850
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's be a backup guy and come in

851
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: spots starter like's not. He's not anybody that you He's

852
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: a placeholder. That's what he is now agreed, and I

853
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: love Theodore. That's the truth. Finger not a thing. We

854
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: moved to free agency the forty nine ers one free

855
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: agency when they signed defensive tackle Javon Hargrave from the Eagles.

856
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: Zagara will start with you thing or not a thing.

857
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: If we're limiting it to just free agent signings, that

858
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: probably is the biggest right of just a pure free

859
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: agent signing. I mean, I think the Barras have set

860
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: themselves up with that DJ Moore trade and everything they

861
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: did with Carolina. I think they've won free eight or

862
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to really win. But for

863
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: right now, from just a signing standpoint, yeah, I think

864
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: that's probably the best one individual signing or in the

865
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: league so far this year. Orlando Brown to the Bengals

866
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Yep, in terms of needs. Does it change?

867
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Like does it change? I guess what what the Hargreave

868
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: thing does for the Niners is it's not only addition

869
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: to them, but it's subtraction of the other best team

870
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: in the NFC twofold. Yeah, it's twofold for that, which

871
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: is exactly same as Orlando Brown, right right off? Yeah,

872
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: that's true for those two are those are the two

873
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: to me that I looked at and think those have

874
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: the chance? Those are that's you're getting better. Super Bowl

875
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: contenders got better. Chief competitors got worse with those signings. Yep.

876
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: And then from kind of looking at it, I would

877
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: say that given the way Detroit feels about themselves, and

878
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about Detroit, Jauncey Gardner Johnson for eight million

879
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: dollars for whatever reason led it to that point, like

880
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: the fact he's more than an eight million do their

881
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: player without question? And I think that was a pretty

882
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: darn good. That's a pretty good one there, for you

883
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: get the NFL leaders and interceptions and a guy who

884
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: is a huge difference maker for a team that you

885
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna have to be to be a

886
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: team of consequence in the NFC. So I think that

887
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: would be another one there. And they had a camp

888
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: setting as well to that back end of the deep.

889
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: But they've had a good They've had a very really

890
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: good run. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of winners or losers up

891
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: next time? Thing or not a thing, the Miami Dolphins

892
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: are the most improved team in the National Football League

893
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: after one week of free agency. Bishop thing or not

894
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: a thing? Not a true thing. I think it's I

895
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: think you mentioned Detroit. Another one that I would say

896
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: is Chicago. I mean Chicago went from I mean they

897
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: had they've always had the assets, but then they they

898
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: weaponized the assets in a way that was really quite incredible.

899
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: With what they've done, I mean, they can be a

900
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: legitimate offense next year. Yeah, because of what's happened this offseason.

901
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: What did so other than acquiring Jalen Ramsey, is there

902
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: a big Dolphins move that I'm not quite aware of?

903
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: Standby I don't think so, right as Ramsey by the

904
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: way from Adam Schefter. Not Browns but kind of browns, uh.

905
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: D Ernest Johnson one year deal with the Jacksonville Jaguars,

906
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: so you've got the brown will do well there. I'm

907
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: happy for him. He'll do very I love him. Yes,

908
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: that a home coming for him. I mean he was

909
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: down for sure, Yeah, Tampa, Tampa area, I thought. But

910
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: best of luck to him. I love dearest Johnson. An

911
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: incredible story from working on fishing boats down in the

912
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: Keys to basically forcing his way into the I think

913
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: it was the USFL or the American Alliance AF Alliance

914
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: of American Football. Yeah, yeah, forced his way into there

915
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: and then got to the Browns. You know, you'll never

916
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: forget FedEx ground player the week hundred and forty yards

917
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: on that Thursday night a couple of years ago against

918
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos when you needed it. Showed how he could

919
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, in that season, got one hundred kerries, ran

920
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: for over five hundred yards three touchdowns. Um. I think

921
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: he could be very very good, and he's somebody that

922
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: gives them. I think kind of a between the tackles

923
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: compliment to ETN and if ETN were to miss any time,

924
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: He's going to give them more than what I think

925
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: James Robinson was able to give them last year, and

926
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: that was substantial. I mean, they're turning it over to

927
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: ETN as they should. But Jaris Johnson I think has

928
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Like in fantasy, if you have et on

929
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: your team, are gonna want Arris Johnson because I think

930
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: that he's, you know, one play away from being a

931
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: very productive guy in this league. Also think he's better

932
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: than he'll be better than they realize. Almost yes. By

933
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: the way, the Dolphins other big signings, Braxton Barrios wide receiver,

934
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: Are you in his family? I feel like that's the

935
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: only way that Braxton Barrios and big signing would be

936
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: in the same sense, he mostarts back Jeff Wilson's back,

937
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: but that's back, so not improvements. So basically it's the Rams.

938
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: They signed Mike White. No, no, it's Ramsey's it. It's

939
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: Mike White. My wife example, meaningful snaps for that football team.

940
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know if you're excited about that,

941
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: that would be the disaster ipe you're excited about it

942
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: at all. But I picked a team and I said,

943
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: think or not a thing? Well, throwing up against the

944
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: wall kids, it's marks twentieth. I like it. Good job,

945
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: you bet up next. Aaron Rodgers is still one of

946
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: the top five qbs in the NFL. Thing or not

947
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: a thing? Bishop? No, nope, not five five? Who were

948
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: the five in front? Mahomes, Burrow, Alan Herbert. Yeah, I

949
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: mean I think Trevor Lawrence. I'm telling you, the way

950
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: that he played down the stretch, you could take Trevor

951
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: Lawrence there. I would rather have Lawrence. I'd rather have

952
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: based on situation. Yeah, I don't know, I would have

953
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: him just outside of that, somewhere between, you know, still

954
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: in the top quartile. He's in the top eight, and

955
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: of course he can win your Super Bowl. Did his

956
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: play declined last year or some Absolutely? Was he? Should

957
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: he struggle a little bit on the deep ball relative

958
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: two years past. Absolutely? Could it have been disinterest, could

959
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: have been lack of chemistry perhaps, But everybody declines. Brady

960
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: declined last year. I mean Brady was on a team

961
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans and Godwin and they were the worst

962
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: team in the NFL on third and ten or longer like,

963
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: and that's Tom Brady. It happens high a lot more.

964
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: But I believe that this this is an old take

965
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: now given what's happened in the last twenty minutes. What Yeah,

966
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: the Browns and free agency thing or not a thing

967
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: outside of wide receiver. The second biggest need now for

968
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: the Browns is that linebacker or not? Now? Not now,

969
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Still not a thing. Still not

970
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: a thing? Yeah? Who what would be number two? It's

971
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: D line and receivers. So if it's not if you're

972
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: saying receiver is not an option? D line, all right,

973
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: pick one tackle or end end and I'll take tackle.

974
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: Just so that we have diverse it diversity to answer

975
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: in the sense that, like, we really don't know who's

976
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: starting next to Dalvin Tomlinson. You want it to be

977
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: perry On Winfrey. You want does Elliott show you something?

978
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Does Maurice Hurst, who's very productive when he's healthy. He

979
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: hasn't really played in two years. He is he healthy?

980
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: Tristan Hills, a former second round pick? You know, do

981
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: these guys come in and do something? But like right now,

982
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: we know our guest coming up in this hour, o'karnclo

983
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: is going to be the starter opposite Malls, Garrett, and

984
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: you drafted Alex Right as a developmental guy, and you

985
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: think he takes a big step forward in the year two,

986
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: But the general wasn't so sure. By the way, on oboe, No,

987
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: what did he say as an every down guy? I

988
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: think that's I think that there's gonna be a rotation there,

989
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: but I think that he's going to be the starter

990
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: and he's certainly going to be involved in rushing the passer.

991
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Alex Right for Shure run well, so if

992
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: you're an obvious running situation, maybe I'll go Alex Right

993
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: in there. But yeah, thing or not a thing for

994
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: both of you? Is this one of the greatest tweets

995
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: of all time? No names please, I'll just read the

996
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: tweet again. No names. We're not going to give you

997
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: the count is enough about me, Let's talk about you,

998
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: my followers for a moment. What do you most admire

999
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: about me? I guarantee I know who I know one

1000
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: hundred percent whose Twitter handle that is. And the guy

1001
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: is an absolute content. You Maine, He's unbelievable. He's so good.

1002
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's my favorite online Twitter And know

1003
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: that I take it all in jest. Everybody He's my favorite.

1004
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: So much fun Twitter no names, no names please, but

1005
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: just so Twitter's so good every day. Obo will join

1006
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: us at two fifteen. We have that to look forward to,

1007
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: which is very nice. Second hour of the program coming

1008
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,920
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1012
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,080
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1014
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Speaker 1: Our new defensive end, Obo Okan Ronquo will join us

1015
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Speaker 1: here momentarily, I would say, in the next fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: or so, he will make his CBD debuts. You have

1017
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: that fok forward to, which is very nice. Between now

1018
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: and then this from CBS Sports Top ten Offseason Moves.

1019
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing right away before we

1020
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: can get into this. Gave this list from a Cody

1021
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: Benjamin like, number one is not done. Number one is

1022
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: not done. No, number one is not done anyhow, Why

1023
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: did people keep doing this this list? This list is

1024
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: pretty awful, and I figured there is no better time

1025
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: to pick it apart than first of all, and Hardgrave's

1026
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: not on the list, Jaron Hargraves signing isn't even on

1027
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: the list, and Aaron Rodgers number one, which hasn't even

1028
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: happened than that. He said that's what he wants to

1029
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: have happened on Pat McAfee and and basically begged the

1030
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: Packers to do the right thing and let him get traded. Yeah,

1031
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: so this is top ten moves like they have coach

1032
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: hirings in here, free agency stuff, trades like it is

1033
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: a stunning miss and sometimes these can be really far off.

1034
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: This one doesn't make any sense. Well you get it, man,

1035
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: people it's content. It's a slow content time, which we

1036
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: all know, and he's trying to generate content and this

1037
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: is this is pretty wild to me. I actually, Vic Fangio,

1038
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that being on the list. Bradberry Orlando

1039
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Brown should be much higher than number nine. No mention

1040
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: of Javon Hargrave, which is insane to me. And the

1041
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Bears trade is number three, maybe should be number one

1042
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: for considering everything that the Bears got, including DJ Moore. Yeah,

1043
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean This is pretty wild all the way across

1044
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: the dam. Sutton number two, I mean, yeah, that's where

1045
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: did I see Chauncey Gardner Johnson at five? You've got

1046
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Cam Sutton at two on this. I gotta tell you,

1047
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: like some of these. I got no problem with CBS.

1048
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: It was a big fan of Dallas as a kid,

1049
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: the Dukes of Hazzard, big fan of CBS. But it

1050
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: feels like anytime we do anything from their NFL guys,

1051
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: it's nuts. I looked at it. I'm like, well, good news.

1052
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: Guess what we're going to talk about today. The big

1053
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: missus like he's got the Bears acquiring DJ Moore, And

1054
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: I understand that side of it, But how do you

1055
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: not have the Carolina side in the top ten acquiring

1056
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: the number one? Pick you a lot for it, I mean,

1057
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: and but you don't know how it's gonna work out.

1058
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: I would just say that I'd rather be Chicago in

1059
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: that deal. You know you get is that both of

1060
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: them are our franchise chaining decisions, though would both sides.

1061
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: The subjectory of the trajectory of both of those franchises

1062
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: will be determined on that trade. Either what the Bears

1063
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: do with the assets accumulated from Carolina, if they use

1064
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: them wisely and honestly, their bet on justin fields, because

1065
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: that's got to pay off two, right, they'd have to

1066
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: land the plane on fields. They have to make sure

1067
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: they were right on that, and that C. J. Stroud

1068
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: or Bryce Young isn't that dude. If those two guys

1069
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: aren't that dude, then the Bears win this as big

1070
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: as as ever for Carolina. David Tepper had tried four

1071
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: years to land a quarterback. I mean they were for

1072
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: two years, two off seasons. They were in on Deshaun

1073
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Watson two separate years, and couldn't pull it off and

1074
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: could not get the quarterback that he wanted. He tried

1075
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: every means, anytime a quarterback there was a whisper of

1076
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: a quarterback on the market, Tepper was on it and

1077
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. And he said, I've had enough, man,

1078
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: go to one, pick the guy you want. Let's figure

1079
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: out who this is. Let's go get the franchise quarterback.

1080
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: We haven't had one in a minute. So that's the

1081
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: most consequential thing to this point that's happened in this offseason.

1082
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: The two that would have that would trump that will

1083
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: be whatever happens in Baltimore, and then the Rodgers thing

1084
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: to a lesser extent, just because the Roger thing, it

1085
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: won't be. In my view, the Rodgers thing is at

1086
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: best going to be like a Brady situation at best.

1087
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: And I understand that's I'm not talking about the Super

1088
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's

1089
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: a three year window for him with the Jets if

1090
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: he goes there. To me, that feels like the extent

1091
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: of it. And I don't think even with him, they're

1092
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. Because of how brutal the AFC is,

1093
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: they have a chance to be in the dance, right,

1094
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think, yeah, you could get into an

1095
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: AFC playoff situation where you could say, legitimately all seven

1096
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: teams could come out of the conference. I think you will.

1097
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: I think it's likely. Yeah, I mean, I don't think

1098
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: there's any team that we could say is definitively going

1099
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl the AFC. You'd have to say,

1100
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to beat Mahomes, right, I mean, that's

1101
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: two years ago the Bengals did it. But that's that's

1102
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: the team that's been there in the AFC. Championship game

1103
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: every single year. We've got a three Super Bowls. Yeah,

1104
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just do it. Pretend the Jets make the playoffs,

1105
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: that they're one of the seven and the other six

1106
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: are Chiefs, Bills, Chargers, Bengals, Jags, and US Jaguars, US Jets.

1107
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: Every one of those teams would say, yeah, we can

1108
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: win it. Well, the way you're not putting in Baltimore

1109
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: with Lamar, You're not putting in Miami who was really

1110
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: good with Tua, or Denver with Russ, or Denver with

1111
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: Russ resuscitated a resuscitated Russ with Sean Payton. Is that

1112
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: seven teams that we just named a total of I

1113
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: named six. We added three more after that, So that's

1114
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: a total of ten teams in the AFC like the

1115
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: ones that would be the Would it be surprising if

1116
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson won the Super Bowl in Denver based on

1117
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: what we saw last year? A little bit? But it wouldn't.

1118
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: It's not an impossible thing for me to see. With

1119
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton in the success that he's had, and Wilson's

1120
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: not that far removed from playing at a high level.

1121
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: There's I mean, I guess like the idea that the

1122
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: I think it'd be shocking for most people outside of

1123
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: here for us to do it. Um, the Dolphins with

1124
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Tua probably a little. And I guess Jacksonville just because

1125
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: usually there's a usually don't go from you know, kind

1126
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: of in to like winning it. But I wouldn't be shocked. Well,

1127
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: but there are three teams in the AFC East that

1128
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: absolutely think that they can do it, with the exclusion

1129
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: being the Patriots. There's the Jags in the South. That's four.

1130
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: There are probably three teams in the AFC West that

1131
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: really believe they can I mean Denver, Sean Payton and

1132
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson have to believe they can do it for sure.

1133
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: Seven and I would say you would say probably three

1134
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: teams in artivision. If Lamar is back with the Ravens

1135
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: believe they can do it. They can do it too

1136
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: because they made the postseason, which is insane. Yeah, certainly, Um,

1137
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: all right, Obo okn quo? Oh is he gonna join

1138
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: us right now? Oh? We could we have Obo could

1139
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: be joining right now. I believe he is calling in

1140
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: right now. It's all right. We'll just stand by, very good, excited,

1141
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: very excited to see this. Are we official? On the

1142
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: Jersey on this. We'll have to ask him. Yeah for

1143
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: officially double O seven. Yeah, yeah, they'd be very good.

1144
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,479
Speaker 1: All right, we'll Paulice is working it out. He's calling

1145
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: in on the hot line right now. The Twisted Te

1146
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: hot Line brought you by Twisted t Hart iced tea

1147
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland.

1148
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: On the other end of the hot line, Obo Okan

1149
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: Ronquo joining us, Obo, thank you so much for taking

1150
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: the time. Congratulations. Welcome to Cleveland, my man. You just

1151
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: had your press conference. I suppose it now by this

1152
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: point at least, it's very much thinking in that this

1153
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: is all now official. Welcome to Cleveland, buddy, Thank you

1154
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for having me. I'm really excited

1155
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of the dog tone. How did

1156
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: this process work for you? How did you land on

1157
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland being the destination? I guess when free agency opened, Um,

1158
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: they showed a lot of interest. They tell me what

1159
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: the plan was for me, and it just it just

1160
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: made sense for me. Um. You know, I love playing

1161
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: for the Texans. Had I met a lot of great people,

1162
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of great opportunity there, but I couldn't

1163
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: pass up playing with you know, one of the best

1164
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: players in the league. You know, um, I felt like

1165
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: that would do it. That that was just so much

1166
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to play on the other side of him. That's

1167
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: like the most coveted spot for d Dresser in the league.

1168
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: So I couldn't pass on that. And then with all

1169
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: the other great players on the roster, I saw opportunities

1170
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: to you know, compete, competing in the playoffs, and ultimately

1171
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. So so it was a no

1172
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: brainer for me. Oh but when you you know, we're

1173
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: thinking of making the decision to come to Cleveland, you

1174
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: said it was a no brainer. You had a lot

1175
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: of former Cleveland Browns on that team in the Texans.

1176
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: One guy that we loved, Christian Kirksey, was one of

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: the leaders on your defense. Did you ever chat with

1178
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: him and say, hey, you know, what was it like

1179
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Is that or something that he ever talked

1180
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: about what it was like to play in Cleveland. Yeah, definitely.

1181
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: He talked about how how crazy the fan base was.

1182
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: He said that that was one thing that he missed

1183
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: about Cleveland, that the fans were just so into it.

1184
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: It may it may they stood by the team so

1185
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen pictures or jersey slaps or rumors

1186
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: that maybe you are going to be wearing number seven,

1187
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: And I was just wondering, number one, if that's true.

1188
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: Do you like double O seven? I feel like that'd

1189
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: be a good nickname for you. So is it true?

1190
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be wearing seven? I love the nickname,

1191
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll all see huh in a in

1192
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: a couple of days. Okay, well, okay, all right, very good. Yeah,

1193
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: that's it feels like a no brainer. Um. You I

1194
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: heard you your your press conference with the local the

1195
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: local media that UM, you know, somebody asked you know

1196
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: what change for you said, opportunity. Opportunity changed for me.

1197
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: Um when you were in the middle of that run

1198
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: that you had in Houston last year where you started

1199
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: to get that opportunity. Um, how much validation was that

1200
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: for you in terms of what you believed you were

1201
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: capable of showing up on tape and in games. It

1202
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 1: wasn't really any validation from me. Honestly, I still felt

1203
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: like I wasn't doing enough, you know. I still felt like, Um,

1204
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: I hadn't I hadn't scratched. I've only scratched my full potential.

1205
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I feel like you get better every game. No,

1206
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: I know I do. And I felt like, um, you know,

1207
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: the more the more I play, the better I get,

1208
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: the more productive I'll be. Um, So like, yeah, the

1209
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: opportunity was there, and I played better when I got

1210
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: more more snaps, but I still felt like I left

1211
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot out there. So I'm looking forward to this

1212
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: year playing the best ball I played yet. You finally

1213
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: get to start five sacks in those final six games

1214
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: to wrap up the season. And now you know the

1215
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: Browns and I've talked to two people here and I

1216
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: know that you have as well, and they view you

1217
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: as a three down player guy you can come in

1218
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: and start. How exciting is that for you as somebody

1219
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: who's been a part of you know, great defenses certainly

1220
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: with the Rams. Uh and then now an opportunity to

1221
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: come in and be a starter with a team like

1222
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, No, I'm super excited. You know,

1223
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to be in that stadium just just

1224
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: to get my first sack, you know, celebrated with my

1225
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: teammates time. I'm I'm I'm super excited, and you know, um, well,

1226
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: when I signed, I reached out to a couple of

1227
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: a couple of my teammates that I already knew, that

1228
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: my new teammates that already knew and we're all just

1229
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: excited to just get going. Who were some of those

1230
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: guys that you that you already knew that you were

1231
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: excited to get to work with. Okay, and I know,

1232
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: uh d Walk I reached out to d wak Um

1233
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: we we we we are. We already were pretty familiar

1234
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: with each other. I reached out to John Kelly. Jeremiah

1235
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: reached out to Perry On. You know, he went to OU's.

1236
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh you guys as well, Aiah um oh, Jacob Jacob.

1237
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: I had him on his visit to OU. He ended

1238
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: up going to LSU. But yeah, I'm pretty familiar with

1239
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on the roster, just just you know, football,

1240
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: the fraternity. We've ran into each other at start, at

1241
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: just different points in our careers. So so I'm pretty

1242
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: familiar with the team. That's awesome, that's really amazing. Yeah,

1243
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: you think you forget I guess we think what you

1244
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: get to the league. You know, the guys who play

1245
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: in your team that you forget this goes back to college,

1246
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: you play a place like, oh you you're gonna run

1247
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: in the circles with a lot of great players. Um,

1248
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: what were some of those what was those conversations with

1249
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: Perry On and and and Jake? My gosh, you so

1250
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: you hosted Jacob Phillips on his visit to OU. Yeah

1251
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: I did, that's it? And yeah, yeah I did. Um,

1252
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: he told me he looked coming and he ended up

1253
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: going to LSU. I still got to give him some

1254
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: craps about that. What what? How did you? How did you?

1255
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he feels like you, he tells you he's

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Speaker 1: covered that. He goes, tell did you have you still

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Speaker 1: got a little beef there? I would think, right like,

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Speaker 1: come on man, when I get to Cleveland. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: off the top, uh, the ability to play on the

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Speaker 1: same defensive line as Myles Garrett. So it was something

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Speaker 1: that that was a very very appealing to you. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you for for those of us up here, UM,

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Speaker 1: we have been looking for someone to consistently play next

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Speaker 1: to Miles for a very long time at a high level.

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Speaker 1: It's something the organization has been looking for as well. Uh,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like you can fill that role? Um?

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Speaker 1: I feel like, um, it's gonna be a really good

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Speaker 1: year after ed for Cleveland. When you talk to Jim Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: what what was kind of the sense you've got of

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Speaker 1: the role you're gonna have in this defense? And he

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Speaker 1: mentioned coming off the edge and you know, get into attack, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He wants me to be as disruptive as possible. Um,

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01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: you want to get the rocks. Wants me to line

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: up water and get off the rock. And that's what

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: I do really well. So when you look at it,

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: you come on off one side, Miles coming off the other.

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Speaker 1: And I know you said earlier today that you watch

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Speaker 1: them Talvin Tomlinson tape. He pushes that pocket. When you're

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher and you have a guy up front

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Speaker 1: who kind of pushes that pocket and eliminates the quarterbacks

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01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: ability to step up. How does that help you? How

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: does that change your game plan? And how does that

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: help you and Miles have those meetings at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: that we all love to see. It just allows us

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: to rush you like higher. You know, you don't have

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: to you don't have to cut it off so shallow.

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: You know, when you can do that, it gives you

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01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: more opportunity to bend and bend at the top and

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Speaker 1: finish with those strip sacks that you want, you know,

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01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: and the strip sacks when when that quarterback is floating,

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01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: he's floating and floating because he can't step. But so

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: so just having having a big strong body like that

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 1: pushing the pot. It's gonna do. It's gonna it's gonna

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: be great for me and Miles. Yeah, well, we're excited

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: to have you here. I know one thing that Z

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: always likes to ask, and I'll let him do it

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Speaker 1: right now. Anytime we get a first chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to a guy, go ahead, buddy, ah, Yes, and that

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Speaker 1: is you know when you go out there, obviously in

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Speaker 1: football you're in a helmet, right, and it's hard sometimes

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Speaker 1: they get to know people. What's something that you want

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01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: Browns fans to know about you when they look down

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: and they see hopefully Agent double O seven out there

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01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: getting after quarterback. What's something that you want Browns fans

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: to know about you? Um? Not much. I think they'll learn.

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: But I but I'm pure energy. When when I when

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01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: I get set, like I might be calm now, but

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01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: when I step out on the field, um, I'm I'm

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01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: just I'm a different guy. You know. I love the

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Speaker 1: game and you'll see it. You'll see it immediately. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to town man. Thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 1: the time. Can't wait to see out there. Look forward

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Speaker 1: to that Jersey reveal somewhere in the coming days. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us today, Budd, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Very good. That's your new defensive end Obo Okanronquo joining us,

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Speaker 1: making his debut via the Twisted T Hotline. Brought you

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Speaker 1: a lot more to come, including some reactions to that

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Speaker 1: conversation with Obo. Coming up next. List to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: have Obo on there, Good to have him in town

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Speaker 1: and part of it. Yeah, we had the General on

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Speaker 1: yesterday and was saying pass rush specialist. But look, with

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Speaker 1: great opportunity comes great responsibility, and Nobo feels like he's

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Speaker 1: ready for the challenge. There's certainly stuff on tape to

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Speaker 1: lead you to believe that he's going to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that. He's a little bit lighter than which

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Speaker 1: is probably where the General John McClean comes to the

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Speaker 1: the end that he comes to get to. But also

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Speaker 1: think that, um, let's see what happens when all that

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Speaker 1: gets put together and how it all fits into a

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01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,879
Speaker 1: jib Schwartz defense. Well, yeah, you remember he was drafted

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01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: by the Rams as a kind of a stand up

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: outside linebacker to rush the passer. And then you know

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01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: last year with the Texans in a four man front,

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: he got to play some defensive end. The Browns think

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01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: he's a better run defender than I think the average

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: person gives him credit for. We'll see how much they

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: utilize him in that role. But he was brought here

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: to do mainly one thing, and that's rush. That's rushed

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And you know, since of Miles it's been here,

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: we've never had that guy with him go for ten sexs.

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: Clowney got to nine two years ago, but and a

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Speaker 1: lot of that was kind of yet two in the

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: final game, a late season flurry. But we've never had

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Speaker 1: that guy that was consistently getting to the quarterback opposite

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01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. And that's exactly what Obo o'caranquo was brought

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Speaker 1: here to do, and so hopefully that's what he can do.

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: I think in tandem with Alex Wright, who's a much

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01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: bigger end and they've always thought that he could be

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: kind of that big run stopping end opposite Miles Garrett,

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01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: that I think you have a very good tandem and

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: what amounts to a very complete player. You know, right,

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: struggled last year to rush the quarterback, but was very good,

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: as I said, against the run. So I think you

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: kind of have both of those things. I think ultimately

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Speaker 1: you want him fresh for those money downs, to get

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Speaker 1: after the quarterback right with o'carronquo, And then can you

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Speaker 1: do that by playing all the time. Maybe we'll see,

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: but I think that really what you're looking for is

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01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: this guy to get after the quarterback. Give you a

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01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: double digit sacks opposite Miles Garrett, give you some pressures,

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: and then I think the Browns are going to be

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01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: obviously in very very good shape. I want to say

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: those we were going to break are coming out of

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01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: that break. It felt like Gibbe was just screaming into

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Speaker 1: a void. Then I felt bad for him. With so

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: much yelling and no audience, it must have been sad.

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: It was a bit of a closet yelling. Yeah, I

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01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: mean that's sometimes that. That did happen a little bit.

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: I did. I noticed that as well. Yeah, I come

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01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: up with an idea and everybody goes, yeah, I didn't

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: hear the idea a fair I never. I didn't hear

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Speaker 1: the idea. I know Zigura did was like a bug

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: eyes and it was like, you don't want to go

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Speaker 1: do it. I'm okay, fine, you do what you want

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: to do. We got thirty minutes left figure it out.

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: We just gave me. Let me know what you want

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: to do here. Just give you a meet Sandwich right

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: there talking about a guy in okaran Quo who you

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: know was in the top thirteen and pass rush productivity,

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: five sacks in his final six games, Gibbe and a

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: great compliment there. And then you know Alex Wright, while

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01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily get to the quarterback, played the run

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 1: well and also led the team on the defensive line

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Speaker 1: with five passes defense last year. So I think together

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: you have everything you need it in two bodies rather

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: than one. But I think the Brons are gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to get the most out of that. And listening

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01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 1: to Obo talk to us, I think he's pretty excited

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: about the opportunity to be clearly the guy and the

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01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove you know, naysayers wrong. And I don't

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01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: think the general is a naysayer at all. But look,

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: you get paid in this league to be a defensive

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: end who can get after the quarterback, and those are

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01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: the ones that are considered the game wreckers much more

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: so than oh man, this defensive end is great against

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: the run. That's nice. That gives you a role on

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: an NFL team, But that's not somebody that's going to

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Speaker 1: really be impacting the outcome of games and money situations,

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01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: because let's face it, money downs in the National Football

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: League are typically third down passing situations. Here, this is

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Speaker 1: this is where I am with this. You tell me

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: if this is overreaching, but I'm kind of this is

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Speaker 1: this is where I am. With a defensive line, you

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: need either Alex Right, Perry and Winfrey or Jordan Elliott

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: to be to be a big pro like a dude,

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: not a don't have to be an all pro done

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01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: to be a Pro bowler. I think that would be

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: a wild stretch for any of them. But you need

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: one of those three guys to be a legitimate issue

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01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: on the defensive line pro defensive lineman. One of those

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: three guys got to go. Perryan's got the highest ceiling

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: from my vantage point, and he feels like he's the closest,

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01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: but one of those If one of those three doesn't

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: do that, then you're gonna have some issues based on

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01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 1: where we are now in that you're banking on a rookie.

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Speaker 1: And I got some breaking news for you that I

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Speaker 1: can confirm McCole Hardman is signing with the Jetskole Hardman

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Speaker 1: to the Jets, and that is I can confirm the

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01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: reports a follower originally he's going to the Jets. So

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: that means one of how many receivers are the Jets

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: going to have? Corey Davis or Elijah Moore are not

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01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: going to be on the Jets next year, so that

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01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: is another Those are other possibilities for the Cleveland Browns

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: to bring into their wide receiver room. Lage Moore's a

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01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: guy that they liked. Is quite a bit. Did you

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01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: see the Fowler tweet? By the way, So the tweet reads,

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: this is the tweet from Fowler source, Micole Hardmen has

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01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: agreed to terms with the Jets on a one year

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: deal more speed for Cleveland's offense. That's the tweet. Well,

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: I just read bad. His tweet reads, Micole Hardman has

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: agreed to terms with the Jets on a one year

1447
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: deal more speed for Cleveland's offense. Well, I guess so

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01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: it leads you to believe that it was right down

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: to it. Huh right? He edited it now says New

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01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: York's offense. Um, yes, obviously, and it was I know

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01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: that the Browns the Browns were talking. I think that

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: it came down to ultimately the Jets were willing to

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: offer up a little bit more money from Micole Hardman

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01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: than the Browns were, and that's the that's the direction

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: that it that it ended up going. So for the Browns. Again,

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01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: like I said, there's the Jerry Judy trade. Now you'd

1457
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: have to imagine one of these, one of Moore or

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01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: Davis will not be on the Jets next year. Yeah.

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01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: I mean they already signed Lazard last week, maybe both

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: of them. So they currently have Garrett Wilson, Alan Lazard,

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Speaker 1: McCole Hardman, Elijah Moore, and Corey Davis. You're not It

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: doesn't Rogers want Randall Cobb. He does. So my guess

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01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: as both of those guys are available, and I wonder,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Browns, is Elijah Moore? What's his price

1465
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: tag relative to that of Jerry Judy. It's just more

1466
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: options for the Browns him going to the Jets. A

1467
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, let's just have gotten mcole

1468
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: Hardman here, and I understand that. So you could end

1469
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: up though bringing in a guy like Goodwin and then

1470
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: also making one of these moves but I know Elijah

1471
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: Moore was highly regarded in this building, and I loved

1472
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: him coming out of Old miss. I think he could

1473
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: be a very productive player with a fresh start. And

1474
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: then you've got you know, Corey Davis, former first round

1475
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: pick who can still play and went on the outside

1476
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: for you. Brad Spielberger of PFF with this, got to

1477
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: wonder if Elijah Moore's trade request maybe granted. After all,

1478
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: it would have to be. Yeah, it's got to be.

1479
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: So you have seventy five receivers and you know, perhaps

1480
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: this was I don't know what how you know, transparent

1481
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: the things were, but perhaps this was something where the

1482
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: Browns knew that it was them and the Jets, and

1483
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: if he went with the Jets that you know, there

1484
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: would be a different opportunity available, right, Yeah, we'll see, Yeah,

1485
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: I mean to me, yeah, it seems like it. But

1486
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: that's you know, so now in terms of Soy, from

1487
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: a true free agent standpoint, it's pretty much dried up.

1488
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: It's going to have to be be a trade, and

1489
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: we know that they were in on Judy. Would have

1490
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: to be be a trade in order or vi a

1491
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: draft in order to acquire a guy who checks all

1492
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: the boxes. Mcicole Hardener was kind of the last one

1493
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: out there that checked him all, wasn't he Yes? Again,

1494
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: not a complete talked about check The one we talked

1495
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: about the most. I think Elijah Moore is is a

1496
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: considerably better overall wide receiver and has some of that

1497
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: juice that you're looking for like I would be. But

1498
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: he's not a free agent. He's saying he's going to

1499
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: be available. Correct, Yeah, he'll be available, but he's not

1500
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: a free agent. So in terms of now you now

1501
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: you're at the mercy of other teams and then bidding

1502
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: wars and that type of stuff for versus straight shark.

1503
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: He's out there. No, he is he? I thought he

1504
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: was Carolina. I don't know if I thought he signed.

1505
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: I thought he Maybe I could be wrong, but I

1506
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: thought he signed. I could be wrong, but I thought

1507
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: he signed somewhere. Uh still interested Lions and Panthers, but

1508
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: not not official yet. So this is I think if

1509
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: if the people out there who were set on getting

1510
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: McCole Hardman and for that not to have worked out,

1511
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: and I would have certainly welcome mcole Hardman to the

1512
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. He wanted to come here. I know that

1513
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: I would say to you that going to the him

1514
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: going to the jets, of all the possible scenarios, if

1515
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: you're looking at through Browns lenses, as probably as good

1516
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: as it can be in the sense that it's going

1517
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: to make other people who would be desirable to the

1518
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: Browns available. It's not like he's just going somewhere and

1519
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: that is just avoid in the in the wide receiver market,

1520
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: He's going somewhere, which necessitates by him going there, they

1521
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: are going to have and with Lazarre also going there,

1522
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: there there will be wide receivers available. Yeah, there have

1523
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: to be. They can't. Yeah, they can't do it all.

1524
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: You can't keep all the receivers for yourself. No kind

1525
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: of a lot of them there. Man, maybe they listen

1526
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: to US. Weapons, weapons, wepons, weapons, weapons, weapons, you want

1527
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: all of you gotta get a man. That's it. That's

1528
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: the whole operation. That's where That's where you stand at

1529
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: this point. Um, all right, A couple of observations from

1530
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: last night in sports we wanted to get to um.

1531
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: Also a couple of observations from Ohio States Pro Day.

1532
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: There seems to be at least two certainties coming out

1533
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: of that We'll get to all of that coming up

1534
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,080
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1540
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Pro Day to the surprise of No. One.

1541
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: Albert Breer on some early reaction from NFL coaches and

1542
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: personnel guys on Marvin Harrison junior, the sophomore rising junior

1543
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: at Ohio State quote incredible, really impressive. Unfortunately not draft eligible.

1544
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: He looked like a dude. L ol. So yeah he is.

1545
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: Do you think he is? Next? I feel like I

1546
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: feel like you must have sent that he looked like

1547
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: a dude. One. I feel like that's right out of here.

1548
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: Does feel like either that or perhaps people who I've

1549
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, done things with previously from a in this medium,

1550
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: feels like that could have come out of their mouth

1551
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: as well just as being in a perimeter of my vernacular. Yeah,

1552
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 1: it does feel like it he is. Yeah, he's he's

1553
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna be great. The other thing that came out of

1554
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: it that I thought was pretty funny was, um, did

1555
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: you see you guys know Josh McCown obviously well from

1556
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: his time here. Did you see his interaction with c J. Stroud? Yeah,

1557
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: I watched a quick little video of it. I don't

1558
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: know what to really make of it. I love Josh McCown, Fine,

1559
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: he feels like whatever the well, I guess we gotta

1560
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: be careful where we're doing this, but it feels like

1561
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: pretty strong leaning that CJ. Stroud's going number one overall. Yeah,

1562
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: you would think that, you would think that. Yeah, Yeah,

1563
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: there was a whole It was like an awkward moment,

1564
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: like there were all these people around and then everybody

1565
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: parted and it was Frank Wright, Josh McCown, someone else

1566
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: there from Carolina Pepper in the blue long sleeve with

1567
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: the big, big embrace. Tepper's there. Yeah, Like, I feel

1568
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: like he's going to be such a good quarterback coach too.

1569
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: It's so funny. We were hoping to do some things

1570
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: with him in the in the with the Browns, you know,

1571
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: from like film standpoints. He was doing that last year,

1572
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, let me see, I may have

1573
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: some things you know in the hopper. Now he's a

1574
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: quarterback coach for the payments. But wasn't he coaching high

1575
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: school football or something like that? Right, But that wouldn't

1576
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: have precluded him from doing anything with the Browns. This, No,

1577
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: this certainly does. Yeah, certainly one of the things non football.

1578
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic Finals last night. UM. I did not

1579
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: watch it. I saw the stuff this morning from it. UM.

1580
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: I know some people were excited about it. I'm very

1581
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: curious to see what the ratings were for it. But

1582
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: it feels like a win. It feels like people excited

1583
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: about baseball in March, which anything that is that is

1584
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: a win. UM. Let me just pose this to you.

1585
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: Is from a non baseball die hard fan, which I

1586
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: used to be him no longer same for those of

1587
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: us just have a general knowledge of the sport and

1588
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: a following of it. Is Shohei Otani undervalued, underappreciated because

1589
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: it feels like to be He might be three things,

1590
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: and the third will be answering the question you just

1591
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: asked one. I have seen reports that they believe that

1592
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: last night will be the most watch baseball game of

1593
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 1: all time because worldwide for sure, but the Japanese audience,

1594
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: but that they think that will be the they had.

1595
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: They had ninety three percent of the televisions in Japan

1596
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: were watching the semifinal of the DVS. We're watching the semifinals.

1597
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: So yes, that's a lock I think for what you so,

1598
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: all right, so that's pretty cool. Two. I felt like

1599
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: in the little bit that I watched, which was highlight driven,

1600
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: there was this mattered more to everybody on the field.

1601
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: I felt like than any World Series that I've seen

1602
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: in a long time, like in terms of just the stakes,

1603
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: the passion, the emotion, the carrying, the commitment, all of

1604
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: it um And then three, yeah, shay Otani would be

1605
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: one of the best hitters and position players. And then

1606
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: he also can pitch. He just struck out Mike Trout.

1607
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: Mike Trout had struck out swinging on three swings, three

1608
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 1: swinging misses in one at bat, I think twenty four

1609
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: times in over six thousand plate appearances. That would have

1610
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: been the number twenty five in his career. And Otani

1611
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: did it throwing one hundred two mile an hour gas Like, yes,

1612
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: I think he is under it. I think he's We

1613
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: don't allow our best guys to do this anymore. I

1614
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: was down into literally when Buster Posey came to Florida State,

1615
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: he was a shortstop and a pitcher, and they turned

1616
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: him into a catcher because that was the fastest, best,

1617
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: best path to Major League BASEO and by the way

1618
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: it worked, I mean, he was an MVP, he was

1619
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: one multiple World Series. He's great. But when he came in,

1620
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: he was the starting shortstop and then he was the closer,

1621
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: and he had a hose, and they turned him into

1622
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: a catcher. So this is what we do. We don't

1623
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: allow our guys to do this. We specialize even amidst specialization.

1624
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: For God's sakes, Um, we take kids who are pitched

1625
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: while you can only be a pitcher. Now you can

1626
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: only do this, you only play this position. You have

1627
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: guys in Little League telling left handed kids they can't

1628
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: play shortstop because they're lefties. Yeah, gotta go play for like,

1629
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: come on, man, they're eight years old. Let them live

1630
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: a little bit for crying out loud, Like I get it.

1631
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: It's more difficult, but this is what we do. Like

1632
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: we do this. Meantime, this dude got to do what

1633
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: he was best at which apparently is everything everything right.

1634
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 1: But that's how he's He is the only professional equivalent

1635
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: I can think of of, like the best kid in

1636
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: the Little league league, who is your number three hitter

1637
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: Clay shorts up and or a cleanupitter and pitches is

1638
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: your yea, But he's doing he's doing it in major leagues.

1639
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: So we don't let our kids do it anymore. We

1640
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: stop him. And they didn't stop him, which is amazing, amazing.

1641
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: He's he's almost he's the Bo Jackson, but just of

1642
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: his sport. It's in the fact that he can do both.

1643
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: It's really this hasn't happened. And since it's one hundred years,

1644
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Ruth, since we've had anybody even

1645
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 1: attempt to do this. Yeah. So yeah, and maybe it'll open,

1646
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: but it does. I hope it does as well. I

1647
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: hope it does. I saw in sport tracks. So he's

1648
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: going to be a free agent. His pitcher valuation was

1649
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: eight years, two eighty his hitting evaluation was ten years,

1650
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: three thirty three, So like, but what do you do

1651
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: with him if you sign him? Do you let him

1652
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: keep doing this? Or do you say, look, dude, we're

1653
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: spending for a million up million on you. We'd like

1654
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: you just to hit her pitch like. Part of the

1655
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: reason he picked the Angels is because they were open

1656
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: to letting him do both. Let him do both, let

1657
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: him to save the game. Second of all, do you

1658
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: remember when we were younger, there was an awesome baseball

1659
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: ad that ended in like a slow motion of I

1660
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: want to say, Steve Bedrosian Bedrock against Mark McGuire when

1661
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Bedrosian was with the Twins as their closer, and it

1662
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: ended in like a slow and you never got to

1663
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 1: see it in It was like, I think it was

1664
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: a tease for I don't even know. It wouldn't have

1665
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: made sense in an All Stars swish because they're both

1666
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: al but it's basically like teasing, you know, the best

1667
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: closer against the best hitter at that time, I mean

1668
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: to get Otani up one against Trout in the finals

1669
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: of the World Baseball Classic and to have him just

1670
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: mow him down like that was unbelievable. Bagges at bad

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Speaker 1: of Trout's career, which is crazy, two best players in

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Speaker 1: the world both played for the Angels, but that it

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Speaker 1: was just it was unbelievable, Joma, and that the jubilation

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Speaker 1: for Japan was off the charts. So I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: was bigger than any World Series win, Like, yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: I think that might be that. I'm gonna say it,

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Speaker 1: that might be the pre eminent baseball event. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to now. I know we're up against it, but just

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Speaker 1: think about this. What if we're not in it? Do

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Speaker 1: you even notice? And the answer that's probably no. Look,

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Speaker 1: the United States doesn't get to the final, we probably

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Speaker 1: don't even notice. It's that is in our country. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we would save it, save it so much

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Speaker 1: more to come we'll get we'll get your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, um, interesting to see the next

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Speaker 1: great to have Obo on the show today. Interesting next

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Speaker 1: couple of days for the Browns. A lot of rumors

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Speaker 1: out there at the Receiver's stuff. Mcole Hardman going to

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Speaker 1: the Jets. We'll see where it all shakes out. Zega

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Speaker 1: Jeva to you, Thank you man. What a pleasure, What

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Speaker 1: a treat to be on and then keep your eyes.

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Speaker 1: I think that the Browns are certainly still in the

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Speaker 1: mix at the wide receiver position, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Jets have become a very interesting potential partner for them.

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Speaker 1: You got the signer, you go, Cole Hartman, there you go.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here. Pay attention kids, next level coming

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