1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: What's app is way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela ye. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: And Jasmine from the Jasmine brand is here. And we 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: have somebody who I adore, any Marie is here with us. Hi, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Hi ladies, good to be here. Thanks for having me. Well, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: first of all, you have a new book as of congratulations. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. You would do great things. This is a 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: children's book with amazing artwork. Can you tell us about 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the artists? Thank you. Risa Figaroa has beautiful, beautiful work. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: She's really great with texture and color. So now you 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: guys can't see it right now, but she's you know, 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: we looked, we looked through my editor and I we 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: looked through lots of different artists portfolios and we were 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: kind of figuring out figuring out what we wanted to 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: do regarding the approach. We just went and looked through 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: tons of portfolios because we didn't no one would have 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: exactly what we wanted exactly, because we also want to 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: leave room for the artist. But so we had to 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: look at just like technique and color and texture and 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: her like her spreads, like the two page spreads, her 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: color or texture, the balance that she has between um 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: grounded reality and the abstract and you know that fantastical, 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: magical element. It was perfect, like the trees, the details 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: so gorgeous. Because I really wanted to make sure that 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: the story felt grounded, but because there's a message that's 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of abstract, I wanted to feel very magical too 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and classic. So I didn't want the artwork to feel 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: too trendy or of the moment. It could be something 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: that can sit on your shelf and be gifted for 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: a book, you know, a baby shower kid, I have 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: a graduation. I have a one in an admiral and 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is he, but she likes 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: to grabs. I got to happy to be careful, like 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: if you took these out, these could be like prints. 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Like it's really like, it's really like arts. And if 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: you're hear a child, that's Rivers. That's River four years 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: he's four years old. Four and yeah, yeah, that's Amory. 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: He's he's not actually sometimes he can be shy, but 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: he's actually pretty gregarious. He's like hi, hello, Hi, And 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: he's basically like me and his granddad and we can 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: just like work up a conversation with someone we don't know, 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and he's like that And one of the interesting things too, 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: is you know, how was it for you having a 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: child in the house during a pandemic. You know, that 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: was kind of like I guess in a sense, it 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: was like all we knew really because I was like 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: rounded right around. There were some things that were tough, like, 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: for instance, he was like sixteen months old right before 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: lockdown happened, and we kind of put ourselves in and 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: where we kind of locked ourselves down beforehand because I 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: remember we were going to get him in swimming, because 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: I took him to the pool for the first time 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, he seems like he's not afraid. 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to mess anything up. Let's get someone 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: to help him swim. But then it was like, oh, 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: this coronavirus, and I'm kind of I was like, I 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: think we still should because so many kids drowned and 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: you have to make sure, you know what I mean, 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: it's the biggest danger. But then no one was really 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: familiar with it, so we canceled that. I canceled some 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: things early and I felt a little weird at the time, 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, I know, we had this photo 62 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: shoot and it's supposed to be like a group mssanble. 63 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: We should I don't think we should be breathing other 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: something's telling me to cancel, right and so right when 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I did that, that week, everyone started canceling a lot 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: of things, and it was I kind of felt like 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: we were kind of in a cocoon. You know, I'm 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: a homebody anyway, and so is my husband. So it 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: was just it wasn't really that different. I don't know 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: what that says about, like our social life, but it 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: wasn't that different. But it was really nice to have 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: that family time. The main thing though, with a child 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: is that I was like, he's seeing all these masks. 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't want him to not see people's expressions. And 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: I also don't want to be I don't want to 76 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: teach him from an early age, don't touch that, don't 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: get too close to that person dangerous because I was like, 78 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how that might mess with his psyche 79 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: as he gets older. Yeah, that was tough. That was 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: pretty tough, especially because sometimes we would go out to 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: the grocery store. He might see a kid and get 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: really excited because he's an only child and you could 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: tell the parents are like a little ten And I'm 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: kind of like, don't what we do. We don't want 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: to kids. Yeah, we're watching for them, but we want 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: them to feel kind of natural. So it was a 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: little tough, right, Yeah, because I always think about that 88 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: because you know, he's so young and the majority of 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: his life was so far kind of bad and lockdown. Yes, 90 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, he really needs to see 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: people's mouths, and he would see us, and he would 92 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: see you know people sometimes like outside running and that 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But I think that is one of 94 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: the things that a lot of kids kind of missed 95 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: out on. Uh, we're just kind of important seeing expressions. 96 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: Did you guys notice that you kind of smized a lot. 97 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Did you like go extra with your eye expressions? Did 98 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: you ever do that, like, I mean just in general 99 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: walking around to the grocery store. Pandemic and so she 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: was pretty, So she was in she was in nikkel 101 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: and we all had to wear a mask, and I 102 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: was like, can she tell them smiling? She was mask 103 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: like that's all she saw forever. Yeah. I think I 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: just was, Um, I still had the same facial expressions. 105 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: It was nice not to wear makeup. That was what, Yeah, 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: that was actually that was actually sometimes I'm just like, 107 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: let me do let me put a mask on. People 108 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: not probably recognize you, all right something. Yeah. Sometimes but 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I feel like if I put on glasses, it's like 110 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: I feel really that doesn't work. Though it doesn't. I'm 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: always like, how did they know? He's like, because you're 112 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: just you with glasses on. But I wouldn't be able 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: to tell myself on social media. The other day, they 114 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: were giving you your props too, when they were just 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: talking about women, you know, um singers who are have 116 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: classic songs. Oh that's so nice. Yeah, I don't go 117 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: on social media that much, right, so I missed a lot. 118 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: That's so nice. Yeah, it was they were giving you 119 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: your props. You were one of the women that they 120 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: talked about. And then I was like, this is great. 121 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: When they told me you were coming with this book, 122 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: you would do great things. One page, I love you 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: would do strange things many may not understand. I think 124 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: that's an important message. Yes, And you know, I feel 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: like a lot of what I was saying in the 126 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: book was not just for kids, but good for adults 127 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: as well, because so many of us, we're all individuals. 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: We have all the things that we want to do, 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: but it's really easy to like have that tamped down 130 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: by like society or other people, especially depending on your 131 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: circle of friends or associates. Is easy for us to 132 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of like try to feel like we need to 133 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: become more like everybody else. And I think that our 134 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: strength is like just leaning into what makes us different, 135 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: not saying that. You know, there's some people out there 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: who are like but I'm not like weird or interesting. 137 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm just regular and basic. That's okay too, you know, 138 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: just being you, just being yourself. I think that's important. Yeah, 139 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like people try too hard to be different. Yeah, 140 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: because yourself extra and being Yeah, if you're doing that, 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: then you're still you're still being influenced, because what's happening 142 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: is instead of you just being authentic to yourself that 143 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: may be different, then really what you're doing is you're 144 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: still choosing an identity based on your reaction to what 145 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: everyone else thinks. And then you're you're trying to be contrary, 146 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: but that means you still are basing yourself off of somebody. 147 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: I can't stand when people are contarians just for the 148 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: sake of contrary. Okay, what inspired this particular book in general? 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: This you know, I always wanted to write a picture book, 150 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: but I felt just for me. I was like, I 151 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: will know what to say when I have a child. Okay, 152 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: until I have a child, I don't think like I 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: had ideas, but I was like, I don't think I'm 154 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: going to really know what I want to say or 155 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: even what's needed until I have that moment. And then 156 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: when I did have that moment, there was so much 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: that I wanted to say, so much that I wanted 158 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: to tell him just about some of the basics, but 159 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: in a very broad stroke way, you know what I mean. 160 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: And then I also wanted so I wanted to tell 161 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: him that life is going to be amazing. It's going 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: to be a great journey, but it's going to still 163 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: have its ups and downs. But it's really important that 164 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I let him know that he already comes equipped, because 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: I do believe that some adults need to hear that too. 166 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: A lot of us that whatever we're going through, I 167 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: really really really believe that we already know the answer. 168 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, Like when we're looking at for advice and 169 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, I don't know what to do about 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: the situation. What should I do? Girl, It's like you 171 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: already know. Half the time, actually, like ninety percent of 172 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: the time, ninety five percent of time, we're really just 173 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: asking permission to do the thing that we know we 174 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: need to do. We just need someone else to be like, 175 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: this is what you should do, because the minute they 176 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: say something that we don't feel like we should do 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: is like, this is what you should do, and it's like, 178 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, but I don't know though, because it's like 179 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: because it's like because you already know, right, Yeah, sometimes 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: we asked people knowing the answer, and we also know 181 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: what we shouldn't do. Yes, So we just have to 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: like listen to ourselves. And I think if you, if 183 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: you like hone your your ear for yourself, for your 184 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: own voice, it like will rarely steer you wrong. Like 185 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: if you said and listening for that teeny voice, yes, 186 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: that's always been inside so a Marie tell us some experiences. 187 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: But you're a teeny voice, that's exact because you had, 188 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, a really long career. You started off so young, 189 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: you know too in this business. You were young. Now, 190 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't a teenager though, you were like twenty No, 191 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: I was like no, I was, I graduated from college already. 192 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: So but it was early twenties. Okay, well, just which 193 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: is really I mean, I do look at people in 194 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: the like twenty eight I'm like, oh it should be 195 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about life yet. But but do you 196 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: feel like at that point, because like you said, listen, 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: sometimes we need that like other person to be like, no, 198 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: that's what you should do, or maybe disagree so we 199 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: can further approve why we should do what we were 200 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: planning to do. Did you feel like you had that 201 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: confidence when you were starting in the business. I felt 202 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: like I did, just because I always knew what I 203 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: wanted and what I didn't want, And sometimes I think 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: that took people by surprise a little bit because I'm 205 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm really I think I'm I seem like a nice person, 206 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like when I 207 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: work with people, I'm nice, but I am also like 208 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I do know myself and I know what I want 209 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: and what I don't want, and so I think for me, 210 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: it was about just standing firm in that, like you 211 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because you know, for instance, I 212 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: want to a magazine shoot, like I love to be leggy, 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: and like I love to shoot to wear whatever I 214 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: want to wear. But specifically, when I was doing like 215 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: a men's magazine shoot, I was like, Okay, I'll do this, 216 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: that's cool. I don't know how I feel about it, 217 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,479 Speaker 1: but I don't want any bikinis. I don't want any bikinis. 218 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: And then when I show up to the shoot there's 219 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: nothing but bikini and I'm like, it's not that I 220 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: don't ever want to wear them, but if I wear one, 221 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: it's because I said, I wanted to write, but I'm 222 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: not like your product. I'm not your thing. I am 223 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: in control of my sexuality and myself and if I'm 224 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: saying I don't want to wear that, then I'm not 225 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: going to wear that. And so some you know, if 226 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I hadn't been adamant about it or confident enough for myself, 227 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I would have just been like, oh, okay, this is 228 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: But I was like no, no, no, yeah, because there's 229 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: creative ways, because like you said, Leggie, beautiful like shorts, 230 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, they could have definitely incorporated that and still 231 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: made it nice and respected. Yes that you said, but 232 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: it still can be confident, sexy. It just doesn't have 233 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: to be a bikini. Yes, And so many people, you know, 234 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: so many people. We'll always have things that they need 235 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: to tell you that you need to do this, you 236 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: need to do that, you need to wear that you 237 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not even seeing anything wrong with wearing a 238 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: bikini because if I was like, Okay, guys, I have 239 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: this idea for the bikini shoot, then yeah, that's fine 240 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: that particular, but it's your choice. And I think that's 241 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: the difference is that sometimes, you know, especially with you know, 242 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: was talking to someone, they were like, why is it 243 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: that every time women get to a certain age or 244 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: a certain point, I just want to embrace my womanhood? Now, 245 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: why does that always equal nudity? Every time? I was like, well, 246 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: there is power and like your sexuality, but you have 247 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: to own it. And even though people feel like sometimes 248 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: that they are owning it, it's usually some man behind it. 249 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: Not to say that just because you're a man, you 250 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: can't have good ideas, but it's not the same thing 251 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: as like owning it yourself. Yeah, And I think also 252 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: embracing that can come with you being confident in yourself 253 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: because I do also see a lot of people when 254 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: they post it's not what they really look like, and 255 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: so I think it's important also to not feel like 256 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: you have to always like photoshop and do this and yeah, 257 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: and sometimes like people just start to like, you know, 258 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: your face, Like there's those face tuning apps and you're 259 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: like everybody's face you could tell when they're using the 260 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: app because it kind of looks very similar similar I 261 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: do think that you. I mean, beauty trends come and go, 262 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: but there is like a certain similarity that you do 263 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: see um which it becomes like one kind of beauty. 264 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: But then yeah, but it's hard to get around that 265 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: because we're so used to seeing it, right, you know 266 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. That's just want people to know how 267 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: beautiful you are without all that, because what you want 268 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: is people to see you in person and be like 269 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: you look better in person, and yeah, do you know 270 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: what the thing is? I will say this, Unfortunately, cameras 271 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: have gotten so like, right, like too much. I mean, 272 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the poor people. It's like even if you were like, Okay, 273 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: we're not going to do any judge because I think 274 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: some judging is good because here's the thing. Like my 275 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: friends and I were having a conversation about that. They 276 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: were like, you know, don't want to over judge. I 277 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: was like, look, at least you're to the point where 278 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: you look like yourself in person because our eyes are 279 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: not like four K eyes you're seeing what I mean. 280 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: I was watching this show and I was like, I'm 281 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: seeing it's terrible, but it's you just see more than 282 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: you would naked eye, and so you have to kind 283 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: of get things back a little bit more analog looking 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: so people don't look so harsh. So I'm not mad 285 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: at that, okay, but there's a mad It's a tricky balance, 286 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: but it's a balance because you like, I want to 287 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: look like by myself, but I don't want, you know, 288 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: this bump that I have right now to be you know, 289 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: to show up. Yeah, so you kept talking about that, 290 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: but it's gone. Thank that. Well, I don't. It's still 291 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of here. But I was like, I would not 292 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: like it there in my kicks, you know what I mean. 293 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah you can zap that out. Yeah yeah, 294 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: everything some people that would change, you know, and people 295 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: are starting to look alike. Um, there's everyone's get the 296 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: same has the same look. It's just the same eyebrow shape, 297 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: the same this the same eye shape or trying to 298 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: do the eyeliner the same way. And I do think 299 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: that there's something to like embracing your individual beauty, because 300 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: when their beauty comes in so many different looks, it does. 301 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? And how to having 302 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: a river change in your life? Your son, I got 303 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: a lot of human a lot more empathetic. I think 304 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: I was always empathetic, Like I was always like I 305 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: was a person, like in high school where someone was like, 306 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: she told me once, I didn't like you when I 307 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: first met you, and I was like why. She was like, 308 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: because I's like she's so fake, She's too nice. I 309 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: know it's fake. And then she became one of our 310 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: best friends, like my sister's friend, and I was like, no, 311 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: but I'm just I am earnest like that because I 312 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: am a nerd and most bookish nerdish people are really 313 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: nice and are just like earnest. But I also wasn't. 314 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I did have a lot of empathy, but not as 315 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: empathetic like and I definitely wasn't a kid person. I 316 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: mean I would see a kid a lady like getting 317 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: her stroller together in the parking lot, and I'd be like, 318 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel so bad for her, like 319 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: your life is over over. I was like, oh my goodness. 320 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: I was like, no dream pressure for me, not now, 321 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: and so I didn't. I was afraid of that. I 322 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: was really afraid of having a child one day because 323 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, what if I turned 324 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: into a different person. I feel like the same person. No, 325 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think I think I 326 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: am a lot more empathetic. And by that, I just 327 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: mean like some people have a child and they're like, Okay, 328 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: I found this love that I never knew before. And 329 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: I felt that too, but I think mostly like I 330 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I understand like the spiritual teaching, Like 331 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I look at my son like I love him so much, 332 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: but now I see that oneness in everybody like a stranger. 333 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: And I could say, like I love a stranger. I 334 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: loved people before, but now I you know, someone was 335 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: saying something and maybe on my first initial instinct was 336 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: like I don't know. That's I don't know if I 337 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: want to do that. It's just kind of an annoying 338 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. And then I was 339 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: like I just saw my son and I was like, 340 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: everybody is precious. Everyone, everyone is just as special and 341 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: deserving of just as much love. And so I was like, 342 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: this is that like when they say love a stranger. 343 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, just be nice. It's like, no, 344 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: I see you, I see you, and I love you 345 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: as like we're the same, like the thing that's inside 346 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: of us, Like I love you when I really do 347 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: love you. It's like kind of inexplicable. Yes, that that 348 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: we're one. That's that's the spiritual teaching we're familiar with. 349 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: But I understood it on a whole other level. You 350 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: know what. I love that you just said a minute 351 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: ago to about being like bookish and being a nerd, 352 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: because I've always been a nerd too, and I'm still 353 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: a nerds. I've always been a nerd, but I embrace that, 354 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: and I feel like more people do need to embrace that. 355 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Because you have your book club. I have a book 356 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: club too. Oh wonderful way. I think I do know 357 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: about that, yes, And I'm an ambassador for the New 358 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: York Public Library, and you know they have an amazing 359 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: children's library too that you need to go to. And 360 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: because they have like the original Winning the Pool books there, 361 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: they have a lot of the original books and you 362 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: can see like the dolls in the museum. By the way, 363 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: you should bring wherever. He will love it. They'll give 364 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you like a nice tour of that. But I feel 365 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: like people need to embrace that more. Everybody's trying to. 366 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I feel like being a nerd is the coolest thing 367 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: that you could be. Like I was younger, though, I 368 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: was it cool for you when you are were younger 369 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: to be like no, no, no, you know when I 370 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: was when I was growing up, it wasn't it wasn't. Um. 371 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation with my parents because I 372 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: was I always got along with everybody, but I never 373 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: was like in a clip because that's not my thing. 374 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: And um. But at the same time, like when when 375 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: the middle school, I was like teased a little bit, 376 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: not like heavily, but enough to wear it. You know, 377 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: like you're not bullied, but you're not, and you know 378 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: everyone but you somehow end up on the wrong side 379 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: of joke all the time. So that was me because 380 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: I was so nice all the time, right, And so 381 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: I remember telling my parents, I was like, I don't 382 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: know what to do. It's like I'm just like, I 383 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: guess I'm just the nerd. But I was like, you're 384 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: not nerd. I was like, I am just face it. 385 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: I faced it. You have to face it tootic. I 386 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: love it is. Your sister said, would you consider Angela? 387 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: Was she a nerd too? Angel was not. See, I 388 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: was the nerd. I was the you know, I was 389 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: a nerd in my books. Angel's academically just as great 390 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: as I was. But my style, she's an entertainment attorney. Guy. 391 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: It's just amazing, okay. And she was, you know, amazing, 392 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: but her social life was more like I'm the one 393 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: who I will have one friend at a time, or 394 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm like by myself in the library and I'm like 395 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: nerding out over something. Angela is walking down the hallway 396 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: with six other girls behind her and you can hear, 397 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: like you just see the fans blowing. She's like, she's 398 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: like really cool, you know what I mean. But I 399 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: was also like the better fighter, that's see. We never 400 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: really had to like really really fight, but we did 401 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: get into a couple of scholars. Because sometimes people test you. 402 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: That's a whole other conversation, but sometimes you get tested 403 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: in high school, especially if people are like, oh, they're 404 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: like the little weak girls or whatever, They're going to 405 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: try you. And so whenever that would happen, But then 406 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: then my then my nerd part would shed because I'm 407 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: very I was skinned, extremely strong, scrappy, and I was scrappy. 408 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: So that's that's you know, we put the books aside 409 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: for a second. Do you worry about things like bullying 410 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: since you just I know, you said it wasn't necessarily bullied, 411 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: But I think with social media it's a whole other 412 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: levels too. For ended, yes, for grown ups too. For kids, 413 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: they're grown ups too, because that's you know, sometimes that's 414 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: not like you said, you're not even really on social media, 415 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: But do you think about that too, because I think 416 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: having a kid that also is hard to think about 417 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: what they're exposed to when it comes to Instagram, social 418 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: online bullying and having a deal with things like that 419 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: in real life. You know, yeah, we haven't. That's not 420 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: something we had to cross yet, but I think you 421 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: do have to. Like one, I think it surrounds one. 422 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: One is who's surrounding your children, like what school they 423 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: go to and what kind of school they go to. 424 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: So that's one thing, but you can't always control that. 425 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: So I think the thing you have to let them 426 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: know is give them a sense of self early, and 427 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: so we do that for River. So I tell River 428 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: like you're amazing. I love you, and I love your personality. 429 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't want other kids that you're playing with, or 430 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: that you encounter, or that you might see on YouTube, 431 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: because however much you limited, they're going to see things. Yeah, 432 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: we don't even watch TV around him. Wow, we don't 433 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: watch TV around him because you just it's none of 434 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: it's ever appropriate for them. I'm like, ever right and 435 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: so um. And then the one time we did I'll 436 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: tell you about that. But the one time we did washeevy. 437 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: The one time I was like, well, what just let's 438 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: just get our laptop here. He's doing blippy, let's watch it. 439 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: We were watching manifests or something, and it's just an 440 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: all right. I remember the scene where the guy like 441 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: robbed the bank and they were like, why did you 442 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: rob the bank? And he was trying to get the 443 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: lock box for his dad or something. Okay, he just said, 444 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: it's not about the money, it's not about the money, 445 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: and he like clocked the other guy. No, River's never 446 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: seen anything like that, you know what I mean, he 447 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: never saw so he was just watching thing and then 448 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: he starts give us something, give us something. He's like, 449 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: what's on the laptop right, he didn't. I didn't realize. 450 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: So then the man punched the other man and Rivers 451 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: like he was just frozen, like what happened? And then 452 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: he's like, it's not about the money. But the funny 453 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: thing is later when things would get a little excited, 454 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: would be like, oh, my goodness, wasn't a funny story. 455 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm relating to his dad or River's getting excited, and 456 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: then he just would start grabbing stuff and throwing a 457 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: bag or whatever and saying it's not about the money, 458 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: it's not about them, because what he learned was, oh, 459 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: and that when things get excited something with it's a 460 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: lot about the nays, a lot about them, and it 461 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: could be about he's excited to go out, So kids 462 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: learn everything. That's so I just want to say this 463 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: because I know it's devastating, but it's also like kind 464 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: of funny. What did you think when he did that? 465 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Because it's like I was I was crushed a hashtag 466 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: parenting fail one. He saw a grown up punch another 467 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: grown up, So that's I mean, his eyes were like 468 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: this big. He's like, because at some point kids are 469 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: going to see things and you can't protect them from everything, 470 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: but they are going to see it. But see, the 471 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: thing is you got to give him a proper perspective. 472 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: So first grown ups are great. Then we got to 473 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: a point where I was like, Okay, here's the thing. 474 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: Some grown ups are actually not naughty. And I'm trying 475 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: to tell him, like, it's not about bad people and 476 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: good people. Is people do bad things or good things, 477 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: but there are some grown ups who are snatchers. I 478 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: don't want to you know, and you don't want to 479 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: tell your to that. So you it's all about that. 480 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: You have to tell them the truth to explain it, 481 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: but you have to like no one to roll it out. 482 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: He definitely didn't need to be two and seeing. It's 483 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: not about the money. It's because some people want to 484 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: cut that on TikTok. Yeah. No, my daughter be watching 485 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: and stuff her dad. I'm like, she should not be 486 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: watching because she gets into it. She'd be like, because 487 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: they can't really discern the difference between what is real, 488 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: and it's like they learn everything she loves learned though 489 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: she loves Steve Harvey. He tells me that, yeah, that's 490 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: my family, but they learned everything from you. So you 491 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: have to do even things like oh I hate I 492 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: hate it when this happens. No, I'm like, I really 493 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: just dislike, you know, they just learn everything from you, 494 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm like sponges, they're spirranges and you're 495 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: basically teaching. I'm you're you have a child. What you're 496 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: doing is you're wiring them. You are wiring them for 497 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: how they're gonna like, what kind of relationships they're gonna have, 498 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: how they communicate, how they deal with their own anger, 499 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: like that whole like breathe and take a breath. We 500 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: have to remember to do that because that's not my 501 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: natural when I get upset, that's not what I would do. 502 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: So we have to like, you know, or mommy's upset 503 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm going to deal with it. And 504 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: so he's just there's so much responsibility. Yeah, it is 505 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: or not a human and it's wonderful. It's wonderful, but 506 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: it's also But then I think that's why we grow 507 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: and we become better people too, Like I definitely ate 508 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: better because because it's only so long, you can hide 509 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: chips and hide stuff, you know. Jazmine's like, um, I don't, 510 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't get my daughter, but in front 511 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: of her, you still eat, but yeah, she'd be like, 512 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: I wonder she is gonna be like, let me let 513 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: me think about it. Yeah, now listen, Consequence sent me 514 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: the sign that you were on with him. How did 515 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: you end up on the check of Consequence and Rick Ross? 516 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Because cons basically just called me and he was just like, hey, 517 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: I have this thing. I want to do it, and 518 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: like I've known him for a really long time and 519 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: so to me it was just like, yeah, it feels 520 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: like it can't be that easy to get a ready 521 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to just get on a track, because you know what, 522 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: I had like a couple of things, like even from 523 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: UM when I first came out, My whole thing was 524 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: like doing like features and I think I'm like, did 525 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: ever charge? I can't really remember now, like if what 526 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: the label was involved, But normally I don't like to 527 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: do that, and I don't because I feel like UM 528 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: are as an artist, Like if I want to do 529 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: something with you, it's because I like your art and 530 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I want to just collaborate and if you want to 531 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: collaborate with me, like it feels funny to me for 532 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: someone to be like I want you to do this 533 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: thing and they pay me for it. I'm I don't know, 534 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: like I'm not saying it's wrong or anything. It's just 535 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: for me. I'm just like two artists coming together to 536 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: create something great. And then you can of course figure 537 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: out royalties and all this stuff like that. But sometimes 538 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: I think things can feel a little bit like you 539 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: want to get such such it's gonna be this much 540 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: money and da It's like, I mean, are we like 541 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: selling groceries, are we selling watches? Or is this like 542 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: art and creating art? But sometimes people have a budget 543 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: for that purpose and they want to make sure that 544 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: you get, you know, some money for your time. Because 545 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: I think it's also true because I don't like and 546 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: then the label. Sometimes the label gets on things and 547 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you feel like certain things are handled. 548 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: I won't go into it too much, but you think 549 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: certain things are handled our artists taking care of them 550 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: just like oh my goodness, they didn't like take care 551 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: of that person like they're supposed to, right, so you 552 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, because that's even like if 553 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: somebody asked you to come do this, be on a panel, 554 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: you would want them to pay you because that's your time. 555 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: Maybe she would, yes, no, I would, because but I 556 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: feel like I'm not creating a piece of art though, Okay, 557 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's what it is. 558 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: You're right, it is different because you do want to 559 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: that's true. Like if someone's like, oh, can you come 560 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: sing it this? Yes? Almost got a yeah that on 561 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: the line to get the contract right, No, But like 562 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: I guess what it is is like I guess it's 563 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: like how it feels right because if someone said, oh, 564 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: they want you to do this thing, like I'm either 565 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: going to be like yay or nay, right, but I'm 566 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: not going to say, well, how much are they paying? First? 567 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: That's not the first That's fine. I guess that's what 568 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, And so people might ask you like, hey, 569 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm once you get on this check, how much do 570 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: you charge? Yeah, people have asked that yeah, um. But 571 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: for me, it's like I have to. I wanted to 572 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: actually do it, and a lot of times I was like, 573 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't really want to do too many collaborations really, um, 574 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: because you can't always control a lot of things, and 575 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you do, but yeah, I just don't do too 576 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: many of them. All right. So consequence about to think 577 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: about Angela, Well, why did you why did you stop 578 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: music or did you stop? Did you just pause it? 579 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I kind of paused it, you know, I did UM. 580 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: I released four Umm Holland and then I released UM 581 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: after four UM, which is a project together. And then 582 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, let me feel things out. But 583 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm really leaning a lot into writing because you know, 584 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I didn't technically announce. We didn't announce it yet, but 585 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: I do have an I do have an adult novel 586 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: coming as well. Oh I was gonna ask you more 587 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: that stuff. Wait what is it called? I can't say 588 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: ye because yes, And it was like it was a 589 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: lot of revisions. It was almost like six hundred pages, 590 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: and so I was like, oh my goodness. My mom 591 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: was like, you have to go to sleep. I finished 592 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: the revisions when I was at their house, and I 593 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: was like, it's gonna be an all nighter, guys, It's 594 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: gonna be an all nighter. So then everyone's all like 595 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: coming in and my dad's like, how's it going, Ganis 596 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: and Water. I'm like, oh, I'm good. My mom's like 597 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: you really should sleeping mine, and I'm like I can't. Mom. 598 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Angel was like, well, because Angel was with me, dude, 599 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: She's like, well, if you have to stay out, but 600 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: I guess I'll stay on the couch and like be 601 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: on the phone or whatever while you're doing it. I'm like, look, everybody, 602 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: I love it. I don't have to up. And I 603 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: was up till the sun came down, but I got 604 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: it in on time. So I have, you know, some 605 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: more coming. So it is a fictional novel. It is 606 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: a novel, yes, fiction, and I have more picture books. 607 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: But I also have more adult novels coming as well. 608 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: So I went a lot. When so you pause on 609 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: the music, so you're focusing on writing, yeah, because it's 610 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: like I have to be in a zone and when 611 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm writing, I like to write all the time. Yeah, 612 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: when do you write your best? Are you like early 613 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: in the I know you had to pull it all 614 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: nighter now, thank you. I know you so easily distracted. 615 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: I know that you you had to pull all nighter. 616 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: But do you write best early in the morning or 617 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day or a night or 618 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: what's your kind of writing style? Before River was born, 619 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: it was like all day, the whole the whole time. 620 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: I would just write everywhere all day, hotel, lobby, I'm 621 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: writing After that, Like you realize you just get tired, 622 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: like later on you know what I mean, you just 623 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: or you need to decompress. So now really to be 624 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Dirk during the day. Morning is great, but during the 625 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: day is great. Um, nighttime not so much anymore because 626 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: I feel like even if I feel like I have 627 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: the time, it's like, that's the time I'm reading for 628 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: the book club to trans which other books I want 629 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: to choose, reading for just things that I want to read, 630 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: catching up on a show, right, yeah? That yeah. Then 631 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: I try to language. I do like to try to 632 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: learn my language at night. So I'm like, for thirty 633 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: minutes or forty five minutes a night, I'm like learning. 634 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: You really keep yourself busy, you know what it So 635 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: some people will be like, oh, I'm bored, and I 636 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: never wanted him to know. Do you know a second language? 637 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: Do you know a third language? Do you know kung fu? 638 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: They're there's so much, you know. I was like, there's 639 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: some showling places. I was like, I need because I 640 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: always and you like to fight too, so she want to, Yes, 641 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I want. There's a lot of things that I want 642 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: to do. But I'm just saying there's too many things 643 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: in life that you can do if you're bored, it 644 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: just means you're not being imaginative enough. But with the 645 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: things that you can do, it's writing your first love 646 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: now over music. Writing has always my first love. Okay, 647 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: we'll say that like that. I wrote since I was seven. Okay, 648 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: so I would write staple stories. So someone my mom 649 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: was like, actually, when I went into music, she said, well, 650 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: what about writing? I thought you were, you know, going 651 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: to write. And I was like, I can do that too, Mommy. 652 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: I can do that any age. Mother, But now I 653 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: need to get on this day. You know that's crazy 654 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: because I was an English major and I always wanted 655 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: to be a writer from when I was young. Also 656 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: still want to do it. Yes, I am. I'm going 657 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: to you. Just do it. I have a book club 658 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I can go to when when I'm ready. Yes, just 659 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: start um. The thing that I recommend for starting out 660 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 1: is just going online learning as much about craft as 661 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: you can. There's so many, so many people want to 662 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: write at least one book, and I think the thing 663 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: you should do is just start right. I agree with that. 664 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: I have some stuff done. Okay, I'm learning some things 665 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: about you. Angel I did. I did not know you 666 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: were a nerd. Yeah, No, absolutely, like my whole life 667 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: and I'm proudly a nerd. I have no problem with that. 668 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with being nerves. There's a lot the 669 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: climate is a lot more hospitable for nerds, a little 670 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: bit more lucrative too. Hey you have to make some 671 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: money being nerd? Yes? What about tech? Are you into 672 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: tech at all? Like? Can you um you mean okay? 673 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Do you mean as far as like the new technology? 674 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: And like yeah, am I excited about it? Or do 675 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: I like, do you know how to do these a 676 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: lot of different apps? Are you like? I' your phone? 677 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: First of all? Yeah, I turned it off. I don't 678 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: like to have um Actually, my notification she used to 679 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: be turned off at like seven. Now my notifications are 680 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: off at five. So you're one of those people that 681 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: we get the message back from this person has silenced. 682 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I didn't even know that he did 683 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: that until I was like texting my friend and his 684 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: he had that, and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, 685 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: my bother. I was like what is this? I was like, wait, 686 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: is that how you're able to make sure you're staying focus? 687 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, his name is Davis. David He 688 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: shout out to David Ye social lite. He has his 689 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: own beauty line. He's a writer, he's a Hye book 690 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: coming here. He said his last name is Ye Yee 691 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: Korean cousin, and so he had his notification. I'm like, 692 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: so is that how you're juggling? Able to juggle? And 693 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I had. My notifications 694 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: are going to go off earlier, but I will have 695 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: to put the phone away because it is a distraction. 696 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: Like I used to be able to read like a 697 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: whole Harry Potter type book in like three days, and 698 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: now every fifteen pages, I'm like, oh, maybe my phone, Yeah, 699 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: maybe I should check online. That is true, like he 700 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: can't even watch a movie or a TV show without 701 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: looking at your phone. And then sometimes you're like, I 702 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: missed everything. I got to rewind. Can you guys watch 703 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: a movie? Yes, I can't. I purposely would put my 704 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: phone away be able to like somehow the arc is 705 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: too I'm getting nerdy again. But it's almost like because 706 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: my husband was like, we watched two episodes of like 707 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, two shows. I'm like, yeah, but the arc 708 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: is like this, so you go at the beginning, everything's 709 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: coming quicker to me. But a movie you're gonna have 710 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: twenty minutes of like act one, and you really are 711 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: a writer. I don't, Yes, I am, I can't. I 712 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: can't even watch movies. Don't have fun anymore because now 713 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is good. Oh, I see how they're 714 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: setting that up. He's gonna be the foil. Now we 715 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: just enter act too, oh the midpoint reveal, and he's like, 716 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, but I can't sit through a whole movie 717 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: because I almost feel like it's too long. About now 718 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: you gotta watch kids movies. River doesn't really watches. He 719 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: doesn't watch anything yet. And then the things that he 720 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: would watch and be like Blippy or Dinosaurs, I'm like, River, 721 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: make sure there's educational what's happening? No, they are, they 722 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: have the but he knows all the construction via what 723 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: about turning this into a little cartoon or a little 724 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: series where I mean, I am open to all of 725 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: those things, and I'm always keeping them and keeping ip 726 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: in mind. Okay, but um, it's a great Like we 727 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: have an audiobook and that's um, that's amazing. Like they 728 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: they really did their thing. It's like it's not just 729 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: that the music is like soundscape, so it's like meditative. 730 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: It's like you have it's kind of like meditative vibes. 731 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: We went through some different sounds, but they were great 732 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: at putting like all the different stuff together. They made 733 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: the water sounds when he's splashing in the water. We 734 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: added some of River's boys in there, so they they 735 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: were just the team. They just created such a beautiful 736 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: experience with the audiobook. Is this River in the book? 737 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: It's it's not. It's a representation of River that Okay's 738 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: outfit from top to bottom basically, so it's it's it 739 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: represents him, but it doesn't like he doesn't look like River, right, 740 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: it is for River. This was a message for River, 741 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: and it's for That's amazing. That's like iconic for him. 742 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: And I am working on something that has his name. Okay. 743 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, home, I'm gonna do something River 744 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: that is you kind of I don't know if I 745 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: want the character to look like him. I don't know 746 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: if I'm superstitious or something, but Okay, you know what 747 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: made you decide to name him River? Also, that's just 748 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: the name we just really liked, Like, you know, we 749 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: really like that name. I love that it's a water name, 750 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: you know. Lenny always felt like water to me. His 751 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: color was always blue, My favorite colors blue. I loved. 752 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: I loved um. I love the feel of it, that 753 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: that element. Because it's hard to come up with a name. 754 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: It is, it can be and I love there's so 755 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: many names. One name I really liked was hay Sus okay, 756 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: and Lenny was like Valin and so he was like 757 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: that everyone's gonna think that. He's like. I was like, 758 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: we're not Irish, but you have I mean, I'm like 759 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal is not Irish or even if you know 760 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan or you know, we like River. I like that. Fine, 761 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: we like River too. I love River the best, okay, 762 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: but I also did like hay Sus and for a girl. 763 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: I also liked Valentina for a boy. For a boy. 764 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I also liked Angel. My husband's like what I again, Yeah, 765 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: he's going on. I was like, but I love that name. 766 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: I love Angela as a boy's name. Okay, okay, um, 767 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: but I love the best Angel Angela would have loved 768 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: at your sister Angel. Yeah. She was kind of like, where, 769 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: why's my name not in anything? Like if we have 770 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: a girl. Why wouldn't her name be in there? I 771 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: was like, Lenny was just like, I don't know if 772 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: I want that to be well, And may thank you 773 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: so much for coming through it, and I hope that 774 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: we get to see you more. I'm excited for your 775 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: new book and I would love to see you more. Yeah, 776 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: I would love to just come and chat whenever you want. Whatever. 777 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: We are here and you have your book club, maybe 778 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: we'll do some type of joint something. Yeah, I would 779 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: love that. An Angela used book club, but we can 780 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: do something maybe, but do it at the library. I 781 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: would love that. And thanks for putting me onto the 782 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: children's libraries. Yeah, you guys should go let me know 783 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: if you want to go outset up the tour. I 784 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: also have to round back to Angela because he's gonna 785 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: be like you literally ended the interview on my name. 786 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: So let me just say I love my sister, She's 787 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: my baby sister, but she's I'm so proud of her, 788 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: and I love Angela's name. Angela's like Angela right, yeah, Angela, 789 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: so yes, put our name in there. Yes, that's funny. 790 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: All right, We may thank you again so much, Nerds. 791 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: You night, Nerds you night. No, we'd have to like 792 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: nay where y'all