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Speaker 1: I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with Rodrigo a'marente.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long with you. I'm just playing in

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Speaker 2: lone with you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Nora, and here with me as always is

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Speaker 1: Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Today our guest is Rodrigo Amarante. He is a beautiful

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Speaker 1: Brazilian singer songwriter.

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Speaker 4: You may know him from his band Los Ermanos from Brazil,

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Speaker 4: hugely successful. Also from Orchestra Imperial and that magical record

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Speaker 4: that he made with his band Little Joy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that record. He's made many solo albums.

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Speaker 1: His latest one is called Drama. It's beautiful. You should

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Speaker 1: grab it. You might know him from the theme song

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Speaker 1: to Narcos to Yo.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you'll learn about how he grew up in Brazil

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Speaker 4: surrounded by music, in the land of music and sort

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Speaker 4: of the organic beginnings to a lot of the music

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Speaker 4: projects you worked on.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun playing music together. We

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Speaker 1: were in the middle of a tour together when we

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Speaker 1: recorded this episode, and it was really fun. He's a

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Speaker 1: very knowledgeable human. I learn a lot every time I

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Speaker 1: have dinner with him. He's like one of those artists

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Speaker 1: who you learn from. Yes, if that makes sense. Sure.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about the samba schools in Brazil

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Speaker 1: where he grew up, which I didn't really completely understand

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Speaker 1: until we had this conversation. We learn about my favorite

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Speaker 1: word in Portuguese, saudagi, saudagi say it Sarah saudadgy soudaddy.

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Speaker 4: I think I did it wrong.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the chemistry of playing music together. It's

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Speaker 1: such a big factor and singing with someone, so it

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Speaker 1: was really fun to sort of do it and talk

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a very interesting, fun, kind humart smarty.

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Speaker 1: He's a smarty, smart, smart, smart, passionate.

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Speaker 4: He's a very passionate musician.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's an artiste. We're going to come in on

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Speaker 1: this episode doing a little joy song the band he

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Speaker 1: was in with Fabrizio Moretti and Binkie Shapiro, and so

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Speaker 1: he talks a lot about the origins of that band

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Speaker 1: and meeting fab I'm gonna try. I'm going to attempt

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Speaker 1: which he did help me with, so I might butcher it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he said to pronounce it Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: AMARANCHI did I just did I do it wrong. No,

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Speaker 1: it felt right. I could be wrong about this, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: please enjoy our episode with Amaranchi. I didn't do it

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Speaker 1: right that time.

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Speaker 5: I bet you're wondering how im that this would come

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Speaker 5: to an end.

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Speaker 6: He's story your house from you.

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Speaker 2: So you tossed me out to the wind. I keep

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Speaker 2: pretending not to care. Oh, the wind to send in

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Speaker 2: the head.

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Speaker 7: Compels mynd to do the things.

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Speaker 2: My heart wouldn't dad. Oh, keep pulling not.

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Speaker 7: See No you spoofected lines with strange.

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Speaker 2: If only, if only none.

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Speaker 6: And in the twilight of this sun.

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Speaker 2: Will fools some mistake from men.

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Speaker 7: This shadows suits me will my regrets are.

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Speaker 2: Faceing the end. Oh, keep pulled the old team.

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Speaker 7: Sceneous perfecting lies with strange us.

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Speaker 3: If fundly you live.

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Speaker 2: On, then, Oh, keep pulling old.

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Speaker 7: Scene no use perfecting love with strange juice.

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Speaker 2: If only you.

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Speaker 1: Fund That was fun. I love that song so much.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's the first time I really zeroed in on you. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I did not know. I did not know you.

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Speaker 1: And a friend gave me the Little Joy album, probably

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Speaker 1: maybe a year after it had come out, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it had just come out. When did that come out?

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Speaker 8: That's a very good question. I think it was, like,

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Speaker 8: I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I think it's two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I know when it came out.

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Speaker 9: When it came out the day Obama was elected or

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Speaker 9: took office, no, elected, because.

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Speaker 8: It was November.

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Speaker 1: Is that two thousand and seven, two thousand and seven, right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's about that era. That's when I that's when I

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Speaker 1: it's just such a perfect album. I think you probably

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Speaker 8: People tell you that a lot people love that record,

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Speaker 1: But it's just got so much. The songwriting is great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the playing is great, but there's just

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's the that record has a magic,

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Speaker 9: which was I think part of you know, me meeting

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Speaker 9: became fast friends. But it was really when you know,

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Speaker 9: Felb was like, well, I'm writing songs and let's try

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Speaker 9: to write a song together. I was like, yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: That's how it started.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one song, that's that was the idea, and.

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Speaker 9: We were not at the same place then. I had

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Speaker 9: come to California to record with Devendra, but I met

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Speaker 9: Fab before in Lisbon. Uh anyway, but we were talking

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Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, we're like, oh, this this

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Speaker 8: Let's do that, maybe write one or two like a

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Speaker 2: So I came over.

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Speaker 9: And we sat to write, and he was I've never

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Speaker 9: I never really wrote music with other people much. I

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Speaker 9: say you and Fab were the easiest seriously to write

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Speaker 9: writing and okay, this is going well, Okay, let's take

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Speaker 9: a break, and he would be like, oh, I have

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Speaker 9: it's like, wow, we have three songs.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's so cool.

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Speaker 8: And I was like, well, you know, there's this idea

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 8: And it was very importation.

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Speaker 6: We didn't know.

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Speaker 9: We named the band the Bar next door. Little Joy

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Speaker 9: was the bar next door. Wow, So it was kind

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Speaker 8: Has that, you know it does.

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Speaker 1: It feels like that easy magic that that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And Binkie's voice in combo as well, it's just so sweet.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's good at learning so great. That was new

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Speaker 1: She just learned it phonetically from you. Yeah, because it

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. She did a great job. I mean she was

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Speaker 8: she was, you know there the whole time. She wrote to.

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Speaker 9: Last actively than me in fact, but she was always

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Speaker 9: a very critical voice when we were She would be like,

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Speaker 8: You know. She was very very important throughout the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's such a beautiful combination. That's what's all so special

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, there's also the thing that me

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Speaker 9: Just out of my first Bandmonos in Brazil, which is

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Speaker 8: And Fab was kind of taking a break from his

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Speaker 8: we're both.

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Speaker 1: Out of our from the Strokes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and so the whole thing felt the opposite.

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Speaker 9: Not that it has to be bad necessarily having a

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Speaker 9: But over there in Echo Park, we're just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: There's some thing really special when you take all that

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it does. It feels like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's one of my favorites. It's awesome. Thanks for

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I haven't played it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Really, I have kind of a thing where you don't

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Speaker 1: do Little Joy songs ever in your set.

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Speaker 8: I feel like it's unfair.

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Speaker 1: Should throw this one in your set because it's great. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Now I'm I'm loosening up a little bit, like I played.

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Speaker 9: Now, I play one Losermuto song, and I said, sometimes

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Speaker 9: if they're like Presilian fans.

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Speaker 8: That I know are going to be very happy to hear.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I play a song from the big.

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Speaker 9: Band Orsino that I wrote and if I is a

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Speaker 9: song I wrote before Little Joy. But Fab was like,

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Speaker 9: I don't care, this song is going to be on

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Speaker 9: I'm very thankful for him for that. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: Toss it in. Yeah, it's a great one. Los Rmanos

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Speaker 1: that started when you were young.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was in college, I was maybe twenty, and.

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Speaker 1: You guys are huge in Brazil.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the last tour we did.

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Speaker 9: Was pretty crazy, really was it like a down stadiums

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Speaker 9: fifty thousand people recently?

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Speaker 9: Well the stories, well, there's we were really big that

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Speaker 9: the career was kind of a roller coaster thing because

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Speaker 9: our first single. So I was in college and I

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Speaker 9: this band, and I was, you know, playing the guitar

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Speaker 8: He's like call.

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Speaker 9: We were singing old samba together and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 8: You want to join my band. It's a punk band,

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Speaker 8: It's so it's cool, It's all right.

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Speaker 1: Who's George Harris?

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Oh man, Hey do you want to do that

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Speaker 8: You gave me a call, Hey, you want to try

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was so fun. And we sat on that deck.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it can be painful. It's true.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly what we did, all right. I love this.

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Speaker 6: It's the top.

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Speaker 12: I read the top, the tip above the trees, tall

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 12: Sun sound the least in the least.

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Speaker 13: By light chusing tory, I try to stay her.

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Speaker 14: It's called card.

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Speaker 6: I know it can be found, but I can harlele.

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Speaker 3: I'm found.

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Speaker 6: Fun, I'm li.

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Speaker 2: Lo, I'm made.

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Speaker 1: Long me.

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Speaker 6: To fun s.

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Speaker 13: Sound sound of clothes going by, of clouds going by.

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Speaker 3: The sun is coming.

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Speaker 2: By trying to busting.

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Speaker 6: It is called.

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Speaker 14: Cord.

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Speaker 2: I know it can be fun and racking me.

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Speaker 6: Who fa fun?

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Speaker 1: That's so pretty. I don't think I could have imagined

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Speaker 1: Of course I don't speak Portuguese, but I've always loved

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it does feel good like, yeah, it might sound

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Speaker 1: Oh you have to compliment me to come on my show.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I was briefed before that email.

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Speaker 9: You no, but the timbre, like when we singing harmonies together,

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Speaker 1: Pretty, it feels good.

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Speaker 1: I love singing with you.

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Speaker 8: But it's not forceful. There's no Brazilian kind of like

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Speaker 14: No, no, not at all.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I love about. Has it has like

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Speaker 8: It's a pretty song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I I grew my mom

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Speaker 9: That you feel that stems from that, because the you know,

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Speaker 8: We get used to.

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Speaker 9: this rent to say that Brazilian music borrowed you know,

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, like listening to that record.

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Speaker 1: Going like, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 8: This is empty and quiet.

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Speaker 9: She's singing Julie London. I mean, this is probably I

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Speaker 8: I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 9: I think you know, she's not the first one to

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Speaker 9: our folk songs this way.

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00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: That is deep to think of that, But it's like that,

455
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: you know.

456
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 8: It's changed, like something's borrowed from here and there.

457
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: It's all it's all like that.

458
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

459
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 9: I don't know that borrowing is even the word, because

460
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 9: if there's no possession, or there shouldn't be any sense

461
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 9: of possession.

462
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: I agree with art with music in that way. Yeah.

463
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you have you have those things that you

464
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 8: feel as Brazilian.

465
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they borrowed it from some American.

466
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, but they exactly yeah, and then continues.

467
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 9: Yeah and my music, I mean, what would it be

468
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 9: without all the other music I grew up listening to,

469
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 9: you know, I don't. I don't do I don't make

470
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 9: an effort to be typical, you know, like I don't

471
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 9: I let whatever Brazilian uh thing comes out to come out,

472
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 9: and I don't I don't keep you know, I don't

473
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 9: keep it from coming as. I don't force it like, oh,

474
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 9: I have to sound more prasent in here because you

475
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 9: know my sales in EU.

476
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, totally yeah, no, I know

477
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: it means it's all natural. Did you grow up are you?

478
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Were you parents musicians?

479
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 9: Well, they both played instruments. My mom last he kind

480
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 9: of abandoned the guitar, but my dad had an amazing

481
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 9: year he was He played the guitar and the piano,

482
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 9: although he didn't know the names of the chords.

483
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so you just kind of played.

484
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 9: But he would hear a song on the radios like

485
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 9: oh remember that song, and he would sit and play,

486
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 9: you know, he would find it.

487
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 8: And so there was that and now I thought. I

488
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 8: actually thought I had a mental health issue because I

489
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 8: couldn't do.

490
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: It when you were young.

491
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was like, how the hell does.

492
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: He do that?

493
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 8: And I was like, oh, I can never be a musician.

494
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 9: And I spose I tried so hard to do that

495
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 9: because that by the time I realized that he actually

496
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 9: had a special talent, I was like, oh, I'm halfway

497
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 9: there now.

498
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good.

499
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 9: But they were, you know, my dad and my mom

500
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 9: were huge rock fans. But at the same time, on

501
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 9: my dad's side of the family, I grew up in

502
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 9: a sumber school.

503
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 8: They had this thing. I mean, we call it sumber

504
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 8: school and it's.

505
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: It's yeah, can you explain it because I don't really

506
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: understand how it works.

507
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, the wording is confusing because the direct translation is.

508
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 8: Summer school.

509
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 9: But I feel like the word school here is more

510
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 9: towards a school of fish rather than an educational institution.

511
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 8: Because it's a parade. It means it's like a somber parade. Ye, yeah, yeah, yeah,

512
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 8: it's what you see.

513
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 12: You know.

514
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 9: Marty Grat Carnival did the same thing, the same calendar,

515
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 9: same idea, except in Brazil. We it lasts from you know,

516
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 9: it's supposed to be fat Tuesday and there's ash Wednesday

517
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 9: afterwards you recover. In Brazil, I mean officially it's a week,

518
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 9: but unofficially it's like from Christmas to March.

519
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean because people are well, you guys like to party.

520
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 9: It's well, if it's gonna end, it can't end on

521
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 9: a Wednesday, like might as well, you know, Thursday and

522
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 9: Friday and then anyway. So what that is is that

523
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 9: once a year, and this happens all over the country,

524
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 9: once a year, the family will get together and determine

525
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 9: what the theme of the year is going to be.

526
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 9: So all the uncles and friends of writing songs around.

527
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: Only for your school.

528
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 9: For each school is like has their own theme each school,

529
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 9: and that's the thing they choose this year, what's relevant?

530
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 9: Oh what the fuck about this or that? And then

531
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 9: people try to write songs, we pick the best and

532
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 9: then okay, settle on it, and then come to the

533
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 9: costumes and and the idea for the whole parade.

534
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where all the everything comes together, sewing.

535
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 8: And I didn't realize that, yeah, yeah, very.

536
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up doing that.

537
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 8: I mean I wasn't sorry, just watching and I.

538
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Was costumes every year for the for the theme.

539
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: You know.

540
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like really messy and fun, like so fun.

541
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 9: We would pile up in this small town outside of

542
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 9: Rio in this one house, well two two uncles had

543
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 9: two little houses and it would be like bunk beds

544
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 9: I don't know, like twenty five people, like rooms with

545
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 9: like six people. Wow, like really hot fans and mosquito things,

546
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 9: you know. And I remember that it was so exciting

547
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 9: and messy. All the cousins and uncles and everyone was

548
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 9: such a prankster in that family, Like, I mean, it

549
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 9: was incredible. They would wake up in the middle of

550
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 9: the night like cut half of someone's mustache.

551
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

552
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 8: Like it was like there was no adulthood.

553
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: That sounds so fun.

554
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was fun.

555
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 6: And I.

556
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 8: My first performances were there.

557
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 9: I was from a very early age of percussionists there,

558
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 9: and they kind of groomed me to be like I

559
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 9: was kind of like I don't know if it was

560
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 9: a secret weapon, but I was very young, and I

561
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 9: would be dressed up just as the actual percussionists, and

562
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 9: I would lead the drums and would do a solo

563
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 9: and stuff.

564
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 8: Because they're judges just a competition.

565
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: It's a competition, okay.

566
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 8: So each school leaves their house and parades downtown. Downtown.

567
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 8: There'll be like, what's that word, bleachers right with the

568
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 8: judges and the mayor.

569
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: This is in your small town, yeah, but.

570
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 9: This is the model for every small town in Reo,

571
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 9: in the state of Rio, around the country.

572
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 8: That's the idea.

573
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 9: They parade, then they stop in front of the judges

574
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 9: and they sing the song, because we're singing the song

575
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 9: like for hours, right, So we sing one round. There's

576
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 9: a percussion break to show what the percussion, what the

577
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 9: ensemble and each hey, they have their own thing.

578
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 8: Oh, in my family, we play the snare this way,

579
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 8: you know.

580
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 9: And these are subtle things like we pushed the sticks

581
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 9: so instead of a hit like punk, it sounds krug

582
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 9: or instead of going.

583
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: We go.

584
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 9: You know something like that, These like little signatures and things.

585
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 9: And so then the judges decide who wins, and we

586
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 9: would always win.

587
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: You would always win, Yes, we would. What was the

588
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a name of the school?

589
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 9: Yes, the name of the town is Sakwa Amma, and

590
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 9: so the name is a play on words. So the

591
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 9: word bunda means band. So if if we said Bunda

592
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 9: means the band from but the name of our school

593
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 9: was inverted was Sakwa Amabunda and jibunda is an expression

594
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 9: for being sideways, meaning kind of drug. So and I

595
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 9: mean there and so that that was the spirit. I

596
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 9: have footage of it. This is the first few for

597
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 9: my first solo record is the song is Manna. It's

598
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 9: all footage from that really. Yeah, super eight footage of

599
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 9: my family and from childhood. That those films. Me and

600
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 9: my sister's an editor, and we did it together, and

601
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 9: we chose the period before we were born because as

602
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 9: we're cutting the material, we realized that the older ones,

603
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 9: my grandparents, their brothers and sisters, they were actually the

604
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 9: wildest ones.

605
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Really, and they were the ones by watching these videos.

606
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, and they kept it alive. Once they died, that

607
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 8: thing died with them.

608
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: Really.

609
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 8: Yeah. My parents' generation, you know, they were.

610
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 9: You know more I mean, I suppose more capitalists, less

611
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 9: you know, they had their careers and you know, like

612
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 9: they were adults in the their starting their careers in

613
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 9: the late mid seventies to the eighties, the eighties, when

614
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 9: is when they're like making it happen, you know. So

615
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 9: their priorities were those things. I feel like my grandparents' generation,

616
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 9: their priorities were having a wonderful life. Yeah, having fun

617
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 9: and getting together. Sure they worked hard, they had all

618
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 9: these things, but that was not the.

619
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 8: Priority, you know.

620
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: That's that's how it used to be for a lot of.

621
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, the pre Reagan world, and it was it was

622
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 9: beautiful for us to recognize that with the film, you know,

623
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 9: like wow, because we had no idea. We realized that,

624
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 9: Oh they were actually more wild. They were more they

625
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 9: were wild in that sense, you know, like they partied,

626
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 9: they were funny. Yeah, they were crazy. And still they

627
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 9: sowed hundreds of costumes. They you know, organized that whole

628
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 9: thing with like such care, and you know it was important.

629
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

630
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really beautiful.

631
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: I should watch that video. Yeah, Mana, so is the

632
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: samba school in Brazil. It's like that all over Brazil

633
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: and it's been going on for hundreds of years.

634
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

635
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I mean it's it's a tradition from Rio,

636
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 9: from where I'm from. But it because the country is

637
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 9: so big, like up north, there are different sounds. You know,

638
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 9: Samba is a thing. So there's a state called Baiya, right, Yeah,

639
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 9: up north that's where's there.

640
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 8: That's where I mean all the greats come from, not

641
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 8: saying all thees, not all.

642
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 9: But kaitan Jiu don't say. You know, a lot of

643
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 9: good music comes from Bayya. The reason for that, I

644
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 9: dare say, is because it's the blackest state in Brazil.

645
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 9: It's the where the original African religions really survived, kondom

646
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 9: ble and all the traditional because you know, people were

647
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 9: sequestered from Africa and brought to Brazil all the Portuguese

648
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 9: colonies and there are different ones, so they're different nations

649
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 9: being brought together and mingled together.

650
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 8: The yodu ba, the bunk to not go and all

651
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 8: these So Brazil.

652
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 9: Became the place where these things intermingled and along with

653
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 9: all the other things, like people don't realize in Rio,

654
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 9: for example, end up north there's a lot of Syrian

655
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 9: and Lebanese people and that really influences some of the

656
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 9: cooking and some of the music, and so that's just illustraight.

657
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 8: And so.

658
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 9: So there's this kind of fight you know in Rio,

659
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 9: say oh, someb was born in Rio, well, and then

660
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 9: they're like sure after you visit, you know, but the

661
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 9: sumber school thing is a thing from Rio. Now it's

662
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 9: all over the country. You know.

663
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 8: It's like you know that that same model.

664
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 9: Different congregations parade, prove their point, make their theme, and

665
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 9: some are political, some are whatever.

666
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 8: You know, it's more and more often they become political themes.

667
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. I can't even imagine in this kind

668
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: of like if we did that, that would be that

669
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: It's just so intense to think that that's how you

670
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: grew up. It sounds like everybody just is naturally musical

671
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: because that's always happening, do.

672
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

673
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, it's I mean I think that, yes, we're Libertines,

674
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 9: you know, we're not Puritans, but in the musical sense.

675
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 8: It's very even.

676
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 9: I'm like when I go to Rio, if I go

677
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 9: to a party, like a normal party in Reo, you'll

678
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 9: be outside. Probably there'll be a table and that will

679
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 9: be one or two instruments being passed around, guitars or

680
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 9: a cavaquino and some percussion and it passes.

681
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Around and everybody's everybody does it.

682
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'm usually the one running away from it

683
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 9: because you know, my friends they're like, pick up the guitar.

684
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 9: They can play for two hours. Like all these songs. Yeah,

685
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 9: and I'm like, I know this one and I know

686
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 9: this other one. You know, I don't have the repertoire

687
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 9: like you know, I didn't. I don't know when they

688
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 9: do it, but they all know all these songs. It's

689
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 9: very it's kind of it's a beautiful thing.

690
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: It's just a very musical country.

691
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think.

692
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, you

693
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: know if everybody's doing this almost cool all since childhood.

694
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's puzzantly how I never understood that.

695
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 9: How because Brazilian folk music is so elaborate in musical terms, right,

696
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 9: the chort progressions, Yeah, just so sophisticated.

697
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 8: It's like jazz, but it is. I don't know where

698
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 8: that comes from.

699
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 6: Really.

700
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting. Can we can you please take

701
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: me to Brazil? I want to go to Brazil with you.

702
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 8: I'll take you up on that. Okay, it's on the record.

703
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 8: Let's go, let's go.

704
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: We can tour or we can just go, it doesn't

705
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: even matter.

706
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 9: They would love to see you play. And I love

707
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 9: it there and I would love to do that singer song,

708
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 9: Let's do it, Let's do it.

709
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

710
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 11: Sarinady home for some freed hands warm enough to make

711
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 11: you sleep until.

712
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: It burns.

713
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: It's the flameless spy when it break.

714
00:40:51,880 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 11: Awake with the wind in turn night. Don't believe even fate.

715
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 11: I respect the fire and dreams that work ad speed

716
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 11: as one that'll dream of to be freez too belong Ah,

717
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 11: I can't wait while parading robes around to quot.

718
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 14: To dances.

719
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 15: Cold enough to make a frieze before courts in a

720
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 15: hartless shire. There's a bood.

721
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: Free to be.

722
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 10: Left the longe.

723
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 7: Longe face. I reject the quart of man. Prince of

724
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 7: speed is one the dream ofvies.

725
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: To be freez to below, So don't ve don't don't blame.

726
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 6: Below?

727
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Is it changed when you stand?

728
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 8: That was so pretty?

729
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: It was?

730
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 8: Yes?

731
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

732
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: I didn't have as many harmonies as I fun I did,

733
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: but oh my, I love the rhythm of it.

734
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 8: How fun to play it for the first time together?

735
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: Bad and you just I think it worked out?

736
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, me too.

737
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I just kind of snuck in, so I think it's good.

738
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I love that song. Which album is this from?

739
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 8: That's from Drama, the last one.

740
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: From the new album. Yeah, it's a great one.

741
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was Yeah, the record. I don't know.

742
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 9: I don't want to go on a rant about it,

743
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 9: but but this is one of the songs where I

744
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 9: was like kind of reacting to all the stuff that

745
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 9: was happening, you know, during the Trump era or you know,

746
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 9: it's in a way, it's kind of a the service

747
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 9: to call the Trump era. It is an era and

748
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 9: marked by him, but there's more to that, you know,

749
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, there's more to that.

750
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 8: But anyway, I try to be positive and and write

751
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 8: that thing.

752
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 6: Well, you.

753
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 10: Low the.

754
00:45:34,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Bad I know, what is that?

755
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 8: Just have to let it out.

756
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, let it out.

757
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 8: It's right, it's a palid cleans because of our conversation.

758
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh got you. We're cleaning the energy and becoming one.

759
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't know. It's pretty. I like what we did.

760
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: I liked it.

761
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Will you play? Is that how you say it? Any

762
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: But it's the name irene in Portugues basically, yeah it is.

763
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. And you use my favorite word at the

764
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: top of the song.

765
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, it's yeah. That word is subject to

766
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 8: a lot of a lot of the conversation.

767
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 9: The specialty about it is that it's a noun, not

768
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 9: a verb, not a verb, so I have sell dig.

769
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's kind of like melancholy, but it's

770
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: not really translatable, right, I mean, I.

771
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 8: Feel like there's more people give more of us. The

772
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 8: Portuguese speaking people's they.

773
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 9: Try to sell it as a sentiment that doesn't exist elsewhere. Okay,

774
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 9: I am gonna disagree with that because we're all people.

775
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 9: Yeah and so, but the special thing about it, which

776
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 9: I think does affect and that that's why the culture

777
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 9: comes out, is that because it's a noun, it's something

778
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 9: you carry and you can bring out and visit hm.

779
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 9: So you know, so in a way, like the expression

780
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 9: we used translated literally would be oh, I want to

781
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 9: kill my saldadgy of Nora.

782
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 8: I'm gonna pull her picture out of the drawer.

783
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 9: I'm gonna look at it, and I'm gonna savor the

784
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 9: longing instead of like you know, oh, don't you know

785
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 9: or forget you can't see Nora now. No, I'm gonna

786
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 9: like go in there and like do everything to enhance

787
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 9: that thing so that it like by feeding it, I'm

788
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 9: killing it in that sense, like I really visit that

789
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 9: and so it's it's part of like you we indulge

790
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 9: in indulge in the.

791
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: In that as a culture hein, Yes, you think you

792
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: think it's more you do it more culturally.

793
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think that, you know it's Italians are

794
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 8: very much like that too, you know.

795
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 9: They.

796
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 8: They go for it, you know.

797
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do know what you mean. That makes sense. Yeah,

798
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: I could see that.

799
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean in a way, you know, I don't

800
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 9: want to be a part of the crowds, like, oh,

801
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 9: Brazil has this unique special thing.

802
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 8: We're all people like.

803
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 9: It's there's like variations of the way we react to things.

804
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 9: You know, everything is every place is special everything. We

805
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 9: have that word, and it's a very interesting word. The

806
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 9: way we the syntax reveals something about the way we

807
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 9: relate to melancholy, to longing to your milk.

808
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: It sorry, I had to do that.

809
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, well you bounce that ball. I know I had

810
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 8: to kick it.

811
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: But it's my favorite word. And remember we put it

812
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: in that song that that other song we wrote. Yeah,

813
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: but it's not in Portuguese, but I wanted to use it.

814
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of words there there.

815
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 11: You know.

816
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used a lot of weird words in that one.

817
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 8: It's a very fun one. That's amat to pick.

818
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, this is beautiful. I'm just gonna play

819
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: a little.

820
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, here's to here's to that feeling.

821
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: Let's wallow in it.

822
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Sodom for me it quama su s den know me.

823
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: The w stun coma trade was.

824
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 14: Mean.

825
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: Long Green seti.

826
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 8: And nom as a flu beni.

827
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 11: Kipratnlumai kisa commation. Come on, vida jiuchi segulu ita jew

828
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 11: in kushte melu seeing your country.

829
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 8: You don't know me.

830
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: Where kujan ma, he said.

831
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Me.

832
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: Long Green said, younu.

833
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 6: Woe.

834
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 8: Let's say my brave.

835
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: Kubre does shame a god that you song. No les.

836
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 6: He rean he reng.

837
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 9: He rean.

838
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 8: He reny he.

839
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 6: Eat in.

840
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: That was so pretty. I almost didn't start playing because

841
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to sit here and be.

842
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: Sun to.

843
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 8: So nice to hear.

844
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 9: I don't think I've ever played the song with anybody else.

845
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 9: That's why I was like, wait, I have to sing

846
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 9: in this part.

847
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 6: Well.

848
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: I almost didn't play because it was just so haunting.

849
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: But then I waited. I was trying to wait till

850
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: something struck me, and then I was trying to be

851
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: the voice like I was trying to be like, I

852
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know any of these lyrics. You know is Portuguese.

853
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. But I was trying

854
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: to be basically on the piano. Yeah, I was trying

855
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: to dance her.

856
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 9: It's just it's one of those songs. It is a

857
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 9: song about long in that way, like everything that I abandoned.

858
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 9: There's no real I borrowed that name at any from

859
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 9: so kit Veloso. He was during the hardy years of

860
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 9: dictatorship in Brazil late sixties. He got sent to London.

861
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 9: I mean, he was arrested and then exiled in London,

862
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 9: and he hated it, and so he wrote the song

863
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 9: called it any.

864
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: I know that song, Yeah, I love that song, and it's.

865
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 9: A joyful song about this girl's smile, like the memory

866
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 9: of her smile is like represents everything he misses, you know.

867
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 9: And so I borrowed the character and put in a

868
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 9: different way like for me, and I was not an

869
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 9: exile on that way, but I was outside of Brazil

870
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 9: too and thinking about all the things I abandoned.

871
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 8: So it's like.

872
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 9: There's representing all these things I not only because I

873
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 9: came to the States, but in childhood, like every time.

874
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 8: My parents would move from town to town quite often,

875
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 8: and so it's about that.

876
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Let's end with the end.

877
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 8: I'm gonna play piano and Laura Jones, you guys.

878
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: Got so sorry, get at it.

879
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 8: I'm a simple man with simple and needs. I haven't

880
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 8: played this song in a while, So if I suck

881
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 8: it up, you can sue me.

882
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

883
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna sue you, RORI.

884
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 8: That's exactly Jones versus Rodrigo on account of okay, let

885
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 8: me give it a trick.

886
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 5: Early fall, painted red, broken full, put to bed.

887
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: Battle words against the sun.

888
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 11: Before a night that song will newvercome?

889
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 15: Oh?

890
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: No, now the move tucks me in things about like

891
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: every sing the Devil's tails, a turn about.

892
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: Heaven chat.

893
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh had.

894
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 14: To leave to foe and the lie I moved, then

895
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 14: what would I know?

896
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 6: Winter night treading blue eyes had chanced to seem.

897
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: Shout take or light of flame, the candle legs hanging

898
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: black thread.

899
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 6: No, it is steam, there's the wind.

900
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: Whispered, there's the rain.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't fall as why.

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Speaker 6: The the spring?

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Speaker 2: It seems the fine.

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Speaker 10: A gift to give, behind the take, beyond the band,

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Speaker 10: a man.

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: To meet mine.

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Speaker 14: Oh dy fine, move.

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: The man, gold to names to fall.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this. Oh my god, I've been wanting

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Speaker 1: to do this with you for so long.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we planned, it didn't happen. The whole thing. So happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy we get to hang out and share everything,

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Speaker 1: music and shows and time and meals. I'm very thankful,

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Speaker 1: me too, Love you so much, thank you, love you.

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Speaker 14: I'm just love.

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Speaker 1: Oh. That was so fun.

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Speaker 3: I just love him.

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Speaker 4: There's something about his voice that is just so relaxing.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's beautiful. I love his singing puts me

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Speaker 1: at ease. He's great. That was just so fun. I

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Speaker 1: also love how he's such a curious person.

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Speaker 4: If he wants to know about something, then he's going

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Speaker 4: to go learn about it. He's going to get into it,

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 4: whether it's like sewing or language stuff or obviously music,

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Speaker 4: and he's just so inquisitive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were on the road. He had a sewing

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Speaker 1: kit with him and he was like making stuff.

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Speaker 4: He like figures it out, and then he's very good

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Speaker 4: at explaining things. You know, my four year old asked

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: me questions or ask me what a word means, and

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: I have to use that word to describe what he's

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Speaker 4: asking about, and then I'll use other words that he

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Speaker 4: doesn't know. You know, he'll be like, Mommy, what what

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: does obvious mean? And I'll say, you know, it's like

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 4: not obscure, it's obvious, and he's.

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Like, okay, mommy, and then he turns it around. What's obscure?

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01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: What's obscure?

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Speaker 4: I need Rodrigo to come explain words to my kid, please.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I felt like he explained the Zamba school thing

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Speaker 1: really well. I didn't completely understand it until in a

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01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: school like school of fish. That makes a lot more

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01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: sense to me than I always wondered why it was

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 1: called a school. Well, we had so much fun. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Brazil with Rodrigo please. Okay, Thanks Rodrigo out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks y'all for listening. Today's episode was recorded by Nate

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Speaker 1: Yechino at the Ballard Bait Shop in Seattle, mixed by

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Speaker 1: Jamie Landry, additional engineering by Greg Toblin, artwork by Eliza Fry,

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Speaker 1: Photography by Shervin Linez, Produced by Me and Zara Oda.

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