WEBVTT - Selects: Star Wars Holiday Spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, It's Josh, and we can officially kick off

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays with the annual release of our Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday special episode. I hope by now it's become an

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<v Speaker 1>annual tradition in your home rather than a deepening annoyance,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope it brings you glad tidings rather than

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<v Speaker 1>rage listening. I know some of you have been at

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<v Speaker 1>it since September, but let the twenty twenty three holidays begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff you should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Jerome Roland.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah, Mala, that was the Wookie wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and mother?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's mom is not with them any longer. She left.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not about to appear in that.

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<v Speaker 2>She went out the window. I'm excited about this. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say we should say happy Star Wars Day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>today is December seventeenth. I have my opening night tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really sure? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I you into it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will definitely go see it in the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I won't be their opening night sure. I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all like, so I can I could conceivably see

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<v Speaker 1>this movie a month after it comes out and still

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<v Speaker 1>going fresh. Yeah I'm an ostrich.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you black yourself out. Yeah, you go dark I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I make myself go to sleep face, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the dark side.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there a while now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Happy Star Wars Day, though, I'm sure that I

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<v Speaker 2>think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all come together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I already missed Life Day though, so happy belated

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<v Speaker 1>Life Day. Cha.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they celebrating it this year?

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<v Speaker 1>November seventeenth?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's every three years our Caine. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>weird job.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's every three years. Started in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do the math, shall we? Quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Math break? I believe that twenty fourteen was the last

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<v Speaker 2>Life Day. Man, we just missed it, and then again

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So twenty seventeen will celebrate Life Day. We'll put

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<v Speaker 1>on our red robes, our ultra long straight ironed wigs, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll celebrate Life Day the way it was meant to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and if you have no idea what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking about Life Day, which is a celebration

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<v Speaker 2>that wookies in the Star Wars universe have every three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like their Christmas. Yeah, they Celebronica or their Kwanta,

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<v Speaker 1>their tet.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly, it's sort of like Earth Day too. They celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>the diversity of their eCos and also remembrance of the dead,

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<v Speaker 2>and they also give the gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like the fins basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a very interesting part of the Star Wars cannon.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it's almost entirely made up, dashed off

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly say, by George Lucas in the seventies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the basis of what has become derided as

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the worst things that ever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not only that, one of the worst things ever

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<v Speaker 2>aired on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with this galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at first that sounds like hyperbole, like, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it was Star Wars and we had high expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's really that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The people who say that haven't seen even a

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<v Speaker 1>second of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, However, I watched it when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>then again this week. Yeah, and you watched it twice

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<v Speaker 2>this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I watched it last night and this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about it. It's mesmerizing, it really is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things that you start watching it and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to turn it off, but you want to

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<v Speaker 2>see just how absurd it can get.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost Yeah, and it starts absurd, it stays absurd in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. Yeah, it's increasingly more absurd. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>less absurd. Finish is super absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just a train wreck in every single sense

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<v Speaker 2>of the word, top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate how bad this is. And

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<v Speaker 1>some people, you know, in researching this, you read about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you read descriptions of these things, and it just can't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly be gotten across until you see it. So luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>as we will see, you can go onto YouTube and

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, and you may even enjoy this episode more

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<v Speaker 1>if you pause, go spend two hours watching this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back and laugh along with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a great Over the years, there have been

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<v Speaker 2>many segments of it on YouTube from badly dubbed VHS tapes,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's one really pretty good version of it in full.

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<v Speaker 2>It brought to you by w HIO Dayton, Ohio, Channel seven, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that flashes up on the screen periodically.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it is high quality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to basically be the copy that the actual

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<v Speaker 1>affiliate broadcast. Yeah, it's like that. That quality compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the other stuff floating around on YouTube, clearly recorded on

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>PCR, Yeah, which were really expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Very expensive. I did some calculating on West Egg. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the average VCR went for about one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>There were brand new, it's amazing one thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight money, So they were about thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars in twenty fourteen money.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily there were some rich people out there recording this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wealthy have saved us all again, yes, yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>as they always do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And we need to shout out some articles that

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<v Speaker 2>we use for this. There's great a great article in

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<v Speaker 2>Vanity Fair called the Han Solo Comedy Hour exclamation point

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<v Speaker 2>by Frank de Jacomo, and then they're the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 2>Holiday Special was the worst thing on television ever by

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<v Speaker 2>So when we kind of know Alex Pasternaka from Motherboard, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not Wired, it's Vice. Yes, So we wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit for Motherboard back then and we had

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<v Speaker 2>a call with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, we're like old Motherboard vets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically, wasn't there one more?

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<v Speaker 1>There was another one and I don't know who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this one, chuck, Yeah, it's the titles the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Special. George Lucas wants to smash every copy of

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<v Speaker 1>with a sledgehammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was a famous quote supposedly at a convention by Lucas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which is not correct.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't ever say that. No, Okay, that that sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like something that people made up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but if you go on the internet you will

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<v Speaker 1>quickly believe that he did. Sure apparently didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure he felt that way though, clearly, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he did appear on Robot Chicken and I think

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five on the Therapist's Couch talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how much he hated the special. All right, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>set the background, shall we Shall we go back to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven, Yeah, summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting the old wayback machine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we are there's watersn Yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>the little six year old excited about Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I've just turned one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you don't know what's up yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I please forgive me if I urinate myself.

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<v Speaker 2>No problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So what has happened is Star Wars has become a huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge hit, seemingly out of nowhere. Yeah, establishing George Lucas

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the brilliant young minds in filmmaking, even

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<v Speaker 2>though in this first movie it was his first huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge breakout hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. I don't mean talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>breakout hit like no one had ever seen anything like

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<v Speaker 1>it before. No, two thousand and one had come out

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<v Speaker 1>in the late sixties. Yeah, but it wasn't it killed.

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<v Speaker 1>It still is inaccessible to all audiences. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>prett of a cerebral film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not an adventure movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This was Wars. This is like basically swashbuckling on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, in a galaxy far far away, Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars just changed everything and it came on just like

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a new hope by the way, yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then then we're going to get stuff wrong, nerds, So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just go ahead and get your little fingers ready to

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<v Speaker 2>email us, like if.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't driven home that I'm not a nerd by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I don't have opening night tickets or

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<v Speaker 1>any tickets yet, give me a break, and by proxy

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<v Speaker 1>chuck too, Okay, thank you. So it's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>state how great Star Wars was in everyone's mind. Yea right.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray came out with that lounge singer Star Wars thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was everywhere and if you if you just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the lyrics of it, he's really it's just Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Murray singing about how much Star Wars is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So by the following year, George Lucas was he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to figure out a way to keep audiences just

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<v Speaker 1>engaged with the whole Star Wars franchise that he was

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<v Speaker 1>just starting to build. But he knew the Empire Strikes

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<v Speaker 1>Back was a couple more years out, sure, so he

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was approached by some TV executives who said,

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<v Speaker 1>have you considered doing some sort of TV special? They're

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<v Speaker 1>all the rage right now. We have a graphic that's

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<v Speaker 1>really awesome that we set aside just for TV specials

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<v Speaker 1>here at CBS. Why don't you let us let's get

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<v Speaker 1>together and do a Star Wars special.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Producers Gary Smith and Dwight Hemion. We're working

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<v Speaker 2>over at CBS, and they say, this is a great

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<v Speaker 2>way to keep the spirit alive while you're making your

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<v Speaker 2>other movie. Maybe move some more.

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<v Speaker 1>Toys, yeah, which George Lucas got a cut of all

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<v Speaker 1>the toys.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. So it was right before Thanksgiving, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be a lot of people watching TV pre holiday season,

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<v Speaker 2>or I guess in the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the weekend before Thanksgiving, it's like everybody's shopping, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around family like waiting to actually do stuff. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect time to broadcast something on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>So Lucas says, all right, let's to do this. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a ton of time, but how about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get I'll get a story together and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can go hire a whiz bang team of veteran writers

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<v Speaker 2>and producers and directors.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever genre you think is appropriate. And those are the

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<v Speaker 1>words that will haunt on George Lucas to his grave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Lucas said, here's my idea. I want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be based on wookies and I want it to

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<v Speaker 2>take place on their home planet of Kiazuk or Wookie

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<v Speaker 2>Planet C.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what he's saying, Kazuk.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it's pronounced in the episode the Holiday Special,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also pronounced different ways. Other times.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have pronounced it Cashie spell it ka s

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<v Speaker 1>h y y y k, Yeah, which I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that sounds like Chewbuck's planet sure, also called

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<v Speaker 2>G five six twenty three. Wookie planet C or Edeon

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<v Speaker 2>is a mid rim planet. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole reason apparently that George Lucas was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in furing the Wookies was it is what we in

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<v Speaker 1>show business call low hanging fruit. The reason why it

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<v Speaker 1>was low hanging fruit was because they had just established

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<v Speaker 1>the different scenes that would make the cut for Empire

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<v Speaker 1>Strikes Back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you pronounce it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Kazuk.

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<v Speaker 1>Kazuk had not made the cut. Even prior to this,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently for a new hope, George Lucas had whipped up

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<v Speaker 1>a forty page that's known as the Wookie Bible. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a forty page supplement that's all about Kazuk and

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<v Speaker 1>Wookies and Chewbacca and his family and everything about wookiedom. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's like, I've got this thing already. You know

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<v Speaker 1>established I love wookies. They didn't make the cut. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little sad about that. They're not gonna kazuk is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to show up in Empire Strikes Back. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>build the entire special around wookies. It's basically the one

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<v Speaker 1>demand me George Lucas has. That's it. I'll be totally

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<v Speaker 1>hands off from this point on which you kind of was.

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<v Speaker 1>He totally was. It was actually this experience that apparently

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<v Speaker 1>taught him to be the very hands on person that

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<v Speaker 1>he is famous for being. It came out of this

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas special.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, he was burned and he had an iron grip

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<v Speaker 2>after that on everything. So here's some of the folks

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. Bruce Valanche, famous TV writer. You probably had

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<v Speaker 2>seen him on Hollywood Squares.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he suspected of being Thomas Pynchone for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or was Thomas Pinchon on Hollywood Squares?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I may be confabulating some stuff confounding. Yeah, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>con of some sort going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it. Yeah, So Valanche was hired as

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<v Speaker 2>a writer a guy named Lenny Rips was hired as

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<v Speaker 2>a writer who.

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<v Speaker 1>Has some great quotes in that Vanity Fair article he does.

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<v Speaker 2>His first quote was, we were really excited because this

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<v Speaker 2>is Star Wars. How could it lose?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Famous last words?

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<v Speaker 2>Who else was hired? There was a husband and wife team,

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<v Speaker 2>the Welches. Yeah, who are the parents of folk singer

0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Gillian Welch, who I'm a big fan of, And I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea that her parents. They were producers slash

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<v Speaker 2>songwriters of the day. They were big on the variety

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<v Speaker 2>show scene, which would turn out to be a really

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<v Speaker 2>key cog in this whole experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like, right about here, Jerry should insert

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<v Speaker 1>a needle coming off of our record sound effect. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Jerry, So Chuck, you just said singer songwriters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what would that have to do with Star Wars? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, actually, in this Star Wars Holiday special for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided from the outset that there should be musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that they decided that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>musical numbers is because the people who sold George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time it was the Star Wars Corporation

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<v Speaker 1>was what it was called. Yeah, on the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>doing this TV special was that everyone would love variety show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Great idea, let's do a variety show. The problem was this,

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently George Lucas didn't watch enough TV. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>also overly trusted people who talk to him. Sure, because

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<v Speaker 1>by nineteen seventy eight, yes, variety shows had dominated television

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<v Speaker 1>for over ten years, but it had come to an end.

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<v Speaker 1>It was getting stale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're talking to Carol Burnett show, one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Had just been canceled after eleven seasons. Yeah, Big Red.

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<v Speaker 2>Flag Sonny and Cher had just had its last season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean what else, like he was still going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the Kihaw still on Solid Gold, had yet to

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<v Speaker 1>come on and take up the mantle.

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<v Speaker 2>That would never write a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it was a little bit. There was talking in

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<v Speaker 1>between the songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Remember the Mandrel Sisters show.

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<v Speaker 1>I never watched that one. Well it was with that

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<v Speaker 1>country chic thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a big deal in the it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of happening again, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, because of that dude, the guy who won All

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<v Speaker 1>the CMA Awards. I don't know, he's like he's he

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<v Speaker 1>came along and he's like, actually country. His dad's like

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<v Speaker 1>a coal miner for real from Kentucky. I think I

0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.440
<v Speaker 1>know you mean Chris so something. Yeah, yeah, he is good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's come along and been like, what are you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a revival in like good country music again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, like in the tradition of Merle Haggard and

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<v Speaker 2>Shore Cash.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's probably where the country she came from,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was actually good country going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh, Johnny Cash out of a variety show?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he really? Oh yeah, I knew they did, like

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday singing thing like out in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had his own variety show was actually pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some like really great performances.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how many nerds.

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<v Speaker 2>Are like, get back to star warm? I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry. All right, So the Variety Show is dying

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, and so they figure what a great time

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<v Speaker 2>to take the biggest movie property on the planet and

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<v Speaker 2>wedget into the Variety Show. Mill you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if wedge is the right word. I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe nestle it in there. And then start hitting

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<v Speaker 1>it with the blunt edge of an axe until it

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<v Speaker 1>mashes into that crevice. You know, Because this is the

0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.960
<v Speaker 1>time when Fantasy Island had just started, Mork and Mindy

0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.640
<v Speaker 1>was about to change things, Charlie's Angels was getting huge.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically television as we knew it from nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>to whenever the real world came along. Just escape ast

0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.400
<v Speaker 1>television is what they called. It was starting and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the hip new thing. So basically, if they had

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<v Speaker 1>turned Han Solo and Princess Leah and Luke Skywalker into

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, sexy detectives, it might have gone over

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<v Speaker 1>even better. But they went the other way. They decided

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<v Speaker 1>to latch onto this extraordinarily stale genre of television, and

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<v Speaker 1>they hired the best in the business. Like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a quote from I think Lenny Rips who was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like we had literally a dream team, a variety show

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<v Speaker 1>dream team, and everybody was good, but there were probably

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<v Speaker 1>no bad ways on the Titanic.

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<v Speaker 2>He there, that's a great quote. Yeah. The guy they

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<v Speaker 2>hired you directed initially was a dude named David at Coomba,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had made his name for Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>fillmore East. It was a concert documentary with Van Morrison

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<v Speaker 2>Van Morrison and the Birds in nineteen seventy one, and

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<v Speaker 2>he actually was at usc Film School the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as Lucas, even though they didn't know each other, and

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<v Speaker 2>he only ended up directing about three segments of the

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<v Speaker 2>thing before he quit. Yet before he walked off, some

0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.840
<v Speaker 2>say he was actually let go, but we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>him in a minute. Who replaced him. Okay, as we

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<v Speaker 2>get along down this gross road, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a little break because I'm overly excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, softly, Josh, So.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so we've established most of the main players.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to a few more. We should point out

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<v Speaker 2>that Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford and Carrie Fischer, Peter Mayhew.

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<v Speaker 1>They had no grounds to refuse to be on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, yeah, pretty much. They were not huge, huge stars,

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<v Speaker 2>yet they could throw their weight around and say this

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<v Speaker 2>is terrible and I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were big overnight because of Star Wars, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't to the adoring public.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at the studio they could still be bossed around,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was the result of it. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell also just from watching the actual special like, Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>Ford is not happy to be there at any point.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Princess Leah is clearly on drugs. Was she

0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:55.080
<v Speaker 1>on drugs at this point? If you watch it, she's

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs. Especially the ending scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Hamill, it looks like he's happy to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually he was fine, but apparently he said, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing a musical number. Yeah, and if you watch

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>his part, wedging a musical number in there would have

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>been even more painful. Sure, but they everybody who was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the actual Star Wars franchise that wasn't wearing

0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>like a full body costume, yeah, was like I really

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.520
<v Speaker 1>wish I wasn't here. And you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell, oh yeah. In fact, in the opening credit sequence,

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they're showing the picture the you know, the faces of

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the people, and you see Harrison Ford as if he's

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<v Speaker 2>flying the Millennium Falcon, and you can you can just

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.680
<v Speaker 2>hear the guy all screen going, now, look at the

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.879
<v Speaker 2>camera and just give a nod. Just look at the

0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 2>camera and give a nod. And he finally you can

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.919
<v Speaker 2>tell he's pissed off, and he looks up at the

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<v Speaker 2>camera and just sort of smirks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and points at the camera like okay, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the camera and then goes back to what he's doing. Yeah,

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt bad for him so early on Valanche and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel bad before him?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? I mean, like, come on, it's Harrison Ford's Han Solo.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to go do this for like five days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt terrible for him. I think it's hilarious that

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<v Speaker 1>they had to do this, especially now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, early on a Valanche and others knew that they

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 2>may be in trouble because they decided not to subtitle

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 2>any of the Wookie dialogue right, and they literally started

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 2>after a brief opening scene setting it up here. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the basic plot is Han Solo is trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>Chewbacca back to Kazuk in time for Life Day so

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:29.119
<v Speaker 2>he can celebrate with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the basis of the entire two hours I see.

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Basis the entire two hours. They encounter a space battle

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.640
<v Speaker 2>and they're delayed, and the next two hours are kind

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.640
<v Speaker 2>of what's going on while the delay is happening.

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Back on Kazuk. Back on Kazuk, because you hear like, oh, okay, well,

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo and Chewbacca evading the Imperial Guard and all

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that stuff for two hours. I would watch that, sure,

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I would too. Yeah, that's not what they show.

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Killing time at the Wookie household, that is what they show. Yeah,

0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 2>that's what they do.

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.960
<v Speaker 1>It's people hanging out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him. Yeah,

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and then killing time while they wait for him to

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, literally, so and so hold on, So you say

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.159
<v Speaker 2>there's a setup, right, Yeah, that's the initial setup.

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And then chuck. That's followed by this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's followed by literally ten minutes, ten solid minutes

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 2>of incomprehensible Wookie speak.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's join it for a second, shall we. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's all enjoy it. And again, you said ten minutes,

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and you're not exaggerating, you're not being hyperbolic. You can

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>time it. That's it's ten minutes of Wookie's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>each other with no subtitles.

0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, I couldn't follow it at first, Like I didn't

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 2>even know who it was. I thought it might have

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 2>been Chewbacca's mom and dad. Oh yeah, that's and little brother. Sure,

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 2>And I don't find out until later when Mark Camill

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>shows up via skype call and says, he really explains

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>everything that had just happened, like your Chewbacca's father, Itchy,

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 2>your Chewbacca's son Lumpy Lumpy yeah, and your Chewbacca's wife, oh, Mala, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So before everybody starts like freaking out, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually their nicknames. Their real names are. His father

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is a Tichik cook, a Titchik cook, it's really hard

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 1>to pronounce. Mulatto Buck is his wife, and his son

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>is Lumpo or ump but.

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>As named by Lucas.

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.199
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but Lucas also named him Lumpy Itchy and Mala.

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 1>So they're all back there wringing their hands, trying to

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.640
<v Speaker 1>figure out ways to pass the time until they get

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>word from Chewbacca that he's made it to uh what

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>is it? Ketchuk Zuk Kazuk. Say ketchup, ketchup or cats

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>up if you're fancy. But Chewbacca is having trouble getting

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 1>back to Kochuk because there's Kazuk, because there's a blockade

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 1>by the Empire and they're looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca,

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>who I didn't realize this. He's the most famous Wookie

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<v Speaker 1>of all. Did you know that? Yeah, of course I

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:57.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That. Well, I mean he's the only one that really

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>appears in the movies, all right, I mean, yeah.

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>We're seeing like, you know, these people's view of your universe.

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What about back on Kazook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he might have just been a fly by Night wookie, right, yeah,

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>but not the case very famous wiki.

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he really loved to like soak in his fame.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So he realizes there's a problem. Valanche. He

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>goes to Lucas and is like, I don't know, man,

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>this is your world, but it may not be the

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 2>strongest thing to do to set this in wokie land

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>and have all this incomprehensible dialogue. And he says he

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>was met with a glacial stare.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he put it a little differently than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he said glacial stare. He did.

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 1>The glacial stare that he got was for this quote.

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>He said, these people just talk and what sounds like

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>fat people having an orgasm. Yeah, he goes, if you want,

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you can set up a tape recorder in my bedroom

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'll do all of the follying it for it.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He's a large guy, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what got the glacial stare. But Valanche later

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>said that from this, there was one development meeting that

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Lucas attended, and it was here's the Wookie Bible, tell

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>me what you got. And Valanche said he and the

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>other writers and producers and director were just kind of

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>throwing ideas, and George Lucas would either say like, no,

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work, give him a glacial stare, or say, yes,

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly it. Yes, let's make this a variety show.

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And there was a little bit of background there.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 2>The CANTEENA players in the band had appeared on other

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 2>variety shows at that point, and I think it went

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>over fairly well, just as a short segment on like

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the Richard Pryor Variety Show or Donnie Marie ye Man.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of variety shows.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying. It was that was television.

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what you did, Like The Brady's. The show had

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.919
<v Speaker 1>its course and then it became a variety show. It

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>was just everybody loved variety shows. Yeah, I'll do. By

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows and

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 1>so it really was a terrible choice.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they even hired a couple of writers from

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Shields and Yarnell, which I hadn't heard of. I oh yeah,

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I watched it. It was at least creepy. This mind

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 2>couple who had their own variety show, and they figured

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 2>these two will be great because they are used to

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>working without words.

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, and so there is a certain logic to the

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>variety show. It's not just all over the place. It's

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>just that variety shows were popular.

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Yea.

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 1>At the time, somebody was like, well, wookies, you don't

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>understand what they're saying. So this is all going to

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:38.119
<v Speaker 1>be very physical. So these people who who did what

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is it shields in yar Now, yeah, that's a perfect choice.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>That makes complete sense. You can see this whole, this

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>whole process of leading up to the point where it

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.719
<v Speaker 1>was produced and shot and everything. Yeah, a series of like,

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>oh we have this problem, well here's a fix.

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that leads to another problem. Well we'll fix

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>it with this.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And no one's stepping back and being like all we've

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>done is cree We ate a series of problems that

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>are going to come together and make one extraordinarily large

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>problem that will become legendary. No one did that, and

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>so the whole thing was made.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>That's right, and it eventually airs.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>On November seventeenth, nineteen seventy eight, a Friday, at eight

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern time.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>That's right, And according to Nielsen ratings, it attracted thirteen

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>million viewers lost the second hour just in the US.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It aired in six or seven countries total.

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no one cares about that.

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess not because none of those are on the internet.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>It finished second to the Love Boat in the second arm, sorry,

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>from eight to nine, and in the next hour actually

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>finished behind part two of a mini series about Pearl

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So yeah, it didn't even win

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>their respective hours.

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>No, thirteen million, that's that's not bad. The thing is, apparently,

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the Nielsen ratings graph for the

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>first hour.

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we know about that graph, It's okay, yeah.

0:27:59.640 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 3>We do.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>And then after a very important part, which we'll talk

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>about soon, it just drops off at the end of

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the first hour, and that actually probably made the executives

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>at CBS cringe for a number of reasons. Number one

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is this special was originally supposed to just be an hour,

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>but so many advertisers wanted to sign one that they

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 1>extended it to two hours, and it shines through. You

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>can totally tell that this thing was never supposed to be.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I think an hour might have been stretching it to

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you the truth. Oh yeah, it's thirty minutes of content,

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>forty if you're generous, an hour and then two hours.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It becomes one of the worst things that was ever

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>put on television.

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's take a break and then we'll

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit more about the actual even don't

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>want to call it content, but it is content in

0:28:52.200 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the strictest definition. Sure, right after this softly jaw.

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, so the show itself, we've given you the

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>main plot line, which again is that Chewy is trying

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>to get back to his home planet to celebrate life

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Day with his family.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's it, And again we almost barely see Chewy.

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 1>The rest is his family on Kizook waiting for him

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to come back for Life Day.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So some of the various things they did there

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>were guest stars. That was Harvey Korman from the Carol

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Burnett Show. Okay, one of my all time favorites.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Him or Carol Burnett Show both. He's great. Yeah, he

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>actually if you watch what he's doing, you're like, this

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>is comedy for sure.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Apparently he too was like the only one on set

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>that was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind

0:29:58.880 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>of kept spirits up.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Good for him, that's what I say. And he had

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>three different parts.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he played well I don't even know the names. Actually,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>we could look him up, but he played a he

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 2>wife makes banthas stew.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>To kill some time, to kill some time on her

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>planet and in our living room.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in Drag is a four

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>armed Julia childlike TV chef, right, And I think it's Gormanda.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It's her name, Gormonda. That makes total sense. Yeah, he

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>also plays There's this one weird bit where Chewbacca's son

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>tries to figure out a way to trick the stormtroopers

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>that the Empire had come and kind of because the

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>blockade raided the house and other properties. So he tries

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>to trick them by I think, rigging a calm link

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.719
<v Speaker 2>to speak in a different voice. So he has to

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>watch the instruction manual.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>He watches an instruction video.

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Which was Harvey Kytel as a robot.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it would have been wonderful of big Harvey Kitel.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh what did say Harvey Harvey Korm.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Man Harvey Kittell murders someone in the middle of

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the instruction.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Rade Harvey Korman. And then the final role he had

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>was as a a bar patron in the cantina that drinks.

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>He has a hole in the top of his head

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like a volcano where he pours his drinks in.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what he drinks, and he he loves b Arthur.

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Did we mention b Arthur was in it?

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck. She sings

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a song.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>She does. She is the unpronounce to everyone she manages

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>or maybe owns.

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>The owner. Yeah, the what's the mas what Ma's deaf cantina?

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh No, most deaf is a rapper? Oh yeah, think

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>you mean Moss Eisley.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, that cantina. She's the owner. B Arthur is

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the owner b Arthur of the Golden Girls, but in

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this case be Arthur of Maud because, as one of

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the people who wrote one of the articles we based

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>this on points out, she's just basically playing Maud as

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the owner of the cantina.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and her song comes because they basically say there's

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>a lockdown, so you gotta call last call at your bar.

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So she calls last call by singing a song to everyone.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, and again, we can't possibly have this script lead

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else but Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>So all this takes place as part of a public

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>service announcement basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>life on Tattooen is. So let's go see what's going

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>on in the mas Eisley cantina as it's being shut

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>down for curfew.

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, this is incomprehensible, but it goes on.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>So they're in it. There's also Art Carney. Yes, he's

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a honeymooner, probably the star of the whole thing.

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Really, he has the most lines, I would say, the

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>most comprehensible line, right. Yeah.

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 2>So he plays a trader, a human trader that is

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually gets

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>to Kazuok and says they're on the way. It's all good.

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a trade dour, not trade tour.

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, traders and trades humans for you know, money.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>No, he he sells goods.

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah, he's in

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the human trade.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>He No, he isn't really, Yeah, he trades humans like

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>he sells humans.

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>that he was in the human trade.

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Huh. So in this Christmas special, Yeah, apparently they sanitized

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>his background because he's basically just selling like gadgets and

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>novelties and stuff like that to the Wookies and the

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Empire who were occupying the area.

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he comes bearing gifts.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's a friend of Chewback's family.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he comes Barren gifts. One of the gifts

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>he gives is a sort of like a little digital

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 2>shop hair dryer. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy. Grandpa

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Itchy sits under this hair dryer, pops in this digital cassette,

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and it can only be described as softcore porn.

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, the writers who were interviewed for this said that

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>was totally the intent they were trying to get what

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>amounted to soft core porn that would pass the sensors.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's all you can't even say it's innuendo. It's

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 1>too obvious an overt for innuendo. Instead, it's just it's

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:54.720
<v Speaker 1>just it's just gross. It's really gross. Diane Carroll, great singer,

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes she is a Vegas staple, shows up and starts

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>based tantalizing Grandpa Itchy, who again, this is Chewbacca's elderly

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>father who now engages in some sort of well he's

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>he's watching virtual reality pornography now, and this is a

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and she literally says to him, now, I

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>can see you're really excited.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch.

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so then you've got another musical number.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Because also again he shudders, Yeah, it's really strange.

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>All right. So there's also a I know, it seems

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 2>like we're jumping around, but it's it's so mind blowing.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Not like this is pretty much like blow for blow.

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Actually I forgot earlier on in the In the special,

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up Remember the

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the hologram chessboard that they played in a New Hope. Yeah,

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 2>basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>play this. He pushes button which is clearly a nineteen

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 2>seventies cassette recorder, and another like it's like a circ

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>desole acid trip gymnast routine happens in front of the

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>kid's eyes. And again this all just it's not like

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 2>it shows a snippet. They show the entire segments, like five, six,

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes long. Sure of all of these things.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>So you would think, Okay, they've gone to this hologram

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>well a couple of times, why not go to it again?

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Well they do. They do to kill more time while

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the Imperial Guard is ransacking their house. Art Carney apparently,

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's trying to get one of the Imperial Guard,

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>the leader, I think, or one of the leaders.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Who looks like somebody from Spaceballs, by the way.

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Very much so. And the writer of the Vanity Fair article,

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>by the way said this is so incomprehensible. The specialist

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas didn't even have the schwartz with him at

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the time. So anyway, our Carney's distracting this Imperial leader

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:10.359
<v Speaker 1>while they're ransacking the Wookies house Chewbaca's house with a hologram.

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>In this hologram, instead of being an acrobat or Diane

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Carroll or any kind of porn or anything like that,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>play Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a little music video.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Basically, it's a Yeah, it's the predecessor to like video

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Kill the Radio Star, you can tell. And again it

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>is the whole lengthy song. Yeah, the whole thing. So

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 1>every time that somebody's like, we need to escape mentally

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>from what's going on here in our house, let's go

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.959
<v Speaker 1>into the video world, it's not just and they don't

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>cut back and forth. It's okay, here's five minutes of

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson Starship performing this song.

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even the Jefferson Starship guys were like, it's

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of a weird trip, Like we didn't get it,

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 2>but we did it right.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 1>They gave us some money, yeah, and some cocaine. Well probably,

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>so we said, yeah, chuck. I think though there yet

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>another segment like this is actually widely regarded as the

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>high point of the whole thing. Oh sure, great, there

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is a cartoon actually, yeah, that Lump Lumpy watches. Yeah,

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is still ransacking my house.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll entertain myself by watching a cartoon on

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>my little.

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was an iPad and he watches this

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number of reasons.

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It's the best part of the whole special.

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, generally agreed upon as such, right, not just us.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And it introduces Boba fet. It's the first time Boba

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Fet ever makes an appearance in the Star Wars universe.

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's actually not a bad And you can't find

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>it in the the one version I told you to watch.

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>They removed it for copyright, but they didn't watch a separate.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, you can find it on its own.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's very much reminiscent of like the

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 2>cartoon style of the day, like a he Man or

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>something for.

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Sure, even even but it's even a little more artsy

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>than that.

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But it does have a plot that you can

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 2>follow that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 2>it introduces Boba fet, like you said, And it's actually

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 2>not bad.

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like Luke and R two and C three po yeah,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're like they crash on a planet or something.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Han and where you're in it. And it's

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 2>the first time we see in Darth Vader. It's first

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>time we see Boba Fett and that he is, that

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>he is just doing whatever he can do for money,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Like Luke trusts him at first, CE three bos like

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you're sure you should trust him this quick? Yeah, and

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, three po, you in your non trusting ways.

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 2>And then it turns out he's selling them out to

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 2>the dark side.

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an allegory for

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas himself. So the cartoon comes and goes. And

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>that was the thing that came at about the end

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of the first hour mark and after that everybody just

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>turned off their television sets.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't remember.

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch this when it came up? Yeah?

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Like if I made it through it all, I mean

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 2>it was I was seven and it was on till ten,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>so I probably didn't make it through it all. Yeah,

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Plus you're probably disturbed who knows. I just remember that.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll have to ask my brother. He might have a

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:23.479
<v Speaker 2>memory of this.

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Betty does. I'm sure he met everybody afterward or

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>something like that. You know, it has a picture.

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Well he was ten at that point, so cynicism had,

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, become a thing in his life probably.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>All right by then?

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure didn't that when centicism kicks in today?

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Jenkinsie Scott holding out to fourteen fifteen. Yeah, maybe so,

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>so Chuck, the whole thing finally does end. And actually

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a guy his name is Nathan Raven, he writes

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>over at the av Club. He had a great quote.

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>He basically said that one of the great redeeming values

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of this this special is that it does eventually end.

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what the first part of the quote is,

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>by a sentient bag of cocaine.

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>And like, go read his review of the Star Wars

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Holiday Special, because he goes on to describe exactly what

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that must have been like. Yeah, development meeting where the

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>bag of cocaine is pacing back and forth talking about

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what should happen.

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>That's what it feels like.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't and it ends even more. It takes

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this bizarre two hours and wraps it up in just

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a nice bizarre bow.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So what happens is eventually Han Solo should we

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>say spoiler alert, Eventually Han Solo and Chewy make it

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>to the planet. They park on the far side of

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the planet because they know the Imperial forces are there.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 1>And the exercise will do Chewy good.

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they have to hike over there. They eventually

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 2>make it back home. They find a storm the Stormtroopers

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>at their house right their tree hut. Yeah, which way.

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>The paintings that set this up, I don't think we mentioned.

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't even call them matte paintings. It looks like

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>someone painted something on the wall and they just like

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>put a camera in front of it.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much. Yeah.

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So they get back and Chewbacca Han Solo hides around

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the corner. Chewbacca steps in front of his son to

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 2>protect him. Sure, Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 2>trips over a pile of logs and falls over the.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Balcony and dies in a holiday special.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So they wouldn't even not only could he not shoot

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 2>first with Gredo, but they couldn't even have him like

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 2>wrestle the stormtrooper and throw him off. He trips over

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 2>a log.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, and Han Solo has his hands thrown up like

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't me?

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 2>It might have been a banana peel, you know.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>But again, this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians.

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Why not have the one death take place from basically

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>what amounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel exactly.

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a perfect way to end it. So that's that

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>guy basically represents the end of the Imperial threat for

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the rest of Life Day. And we then see Life

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of wookies

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>assembling in what looks like a giant Olin Mills portrait,

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>still having trouble like wrapping around us. And then Princess

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Leah comes out with C three po is Mark Hamill.

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 2>There, the whole gang zeraphone, Okay.

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>The whole gangs there, and then they all gather around

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to hear a great quote from Princess Leah, which we

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>will read verbatim.

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 2>This holiday is yours, but we all share with you

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 2>the hope that this day brings us closer to freedom

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and to harmony and to peace. No matter how different

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 2>we appear, we're all the same in our struggle against

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 2>the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that this

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 2>day will always be a day of joy in which

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage, and, more

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>than anything else, our love for one another. This is

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the promise of the Tree of Life Q song.

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, And we should also point out the Tree of

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Life has never been mentioned.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Up to this point.

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what this takes a sudden appearance

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>at the end, and when you said Q song, by

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Q song, you mean Princess Leah starts singing.

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And apparently that was one of the big contingencies

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>on Carrie Fisher being involved. Yeah, she's going through a

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>phase where she's like, I kind of like singing.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Valanche calls it her Joni Mitchell period.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she somehow convinced them to let her sing

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 2>as Princess Leah. And she does.

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>And again I've said that she looks like she's on drugs.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>This is the point where she really does look like

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 1>she's on drugs. And it's not just me other writers

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>who've written reviews of this, it's really obvious that she

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>possibly smoked a decent amount of pot before she shot

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this shot this scene. But she sings, Oh, okay, it's fine.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just the the fact that Princess Leia is singing.

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.879
<v Speaker 1>And actually, Bruce Falanch had a really great quote too.

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 1>He says that she very much wanted to show this

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>side of her talent, and there was general dismay because

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>this was not what we wanted Princess Lea to be doing. Yeah,

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>she did it anyway. So the whole thing ends with

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>her singing this song about life day oh yeah, which

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So along the way, the director, original director quit,

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 2>A new director, Steve Binder was hired to finish the

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 2>job and bring it in, and he did over the

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 2>original one million dollar budget. Of course, always he did

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:44.240
<v Speaker 2>bring it in and at this point George Lucas said

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 2>he was he was working on Empire Strikes Back. He

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what was going on. He wasn't around for

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the shoot.

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't until it aired I think that he

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>actually saw it.

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it was a travesty obviously, if you haven't

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>noticed that by now, critics hated it. Star Wars fans

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>really hated it.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Everybody, the people who were in it hated it.

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Lucas hated it.

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Even Harvey Korman secretly hated it.

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even Harvey Keitel hated it. Actually he loved it.

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 2>But Lucas has been asked over the years about it

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and he doesn't talk about it much. But

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and five, and I don't buy this

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 2>for a second, he says it was an interview He

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>said especial from nineteen seventy eight. I really didn't have

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 2>much to do with us. You know that part is true.

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what network it was even on, but

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>it was a thing that they did. That's a lie.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 2>There's no way he doesn't know that was CBS. We

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of just let them do it. I believe that

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 2>it was done by I can't even remember who the

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 2>group was, but there were variety TV guys. I'm sure

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 2>he remembers a few of them. We let them use

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the characters and stuff, and that probably wasn't the smartest

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>thing to do, but you learn from those experiences. I

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 2>think they even use some of the footage from the movie.

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 2>At the end, it looks like some of the space like.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>A highlight reel, yeah the Gang.

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, and during the it looked like some of the

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 2>they had some insert shots of like Imperial cruisers and

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>tie fighters and stuff that.

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like from remember when Chewbacca like leans back and

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.879
<v Speaker 1>puts his hands behind it. Yeah, yeah, that's in there.

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like a just a highlight reel from the movie.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Saying like I feel like this, go see the movie.

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, and also that means it doesn't match the look

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:24.359
<v Speaker 2>of the rest of it at all.

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just sort of inserted.

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>They tried, They definitely tried. And George Lucas is totally

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:32.839
<v Speaker 1>full of it, because in nineteen eighty seven he told

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 1>star Log magazine that the Christmas Special would be out

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<v Speaker 1>on video cassette very soon. Yes, And in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seven, two years after that quote, you just read

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<v Speaker 1>where he's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>he apparently considered releasing the Christmas Special as a bonus

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<v Speaker 1>on the DVDs of the first three.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but did not did, and apparently Carrie Fisher told

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<v Speaker 2>Lucas that if you want me to do DVD extras commentary, yeah, commentary,

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<v Speaker 2>then I want a clean original copy of the Holiday Special. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so why go ahead so I can play at parties

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<v Speaker 2>when I want people to leave. It's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so and there is one of those clean

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>copies is floating around out there, so you can watch

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>this in it in its entirety. Some of it, like

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the cartoon, was removed due to copyright infringement and that

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, but as as the case with the

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>rest of the Internet, you can just go find it

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>elsewhere and piece it together. There's also the original ads

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that aired in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that are just fascinating. Yeah.

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Those are always fun gm ads where one of the

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>guys who's in quality control is he says, did you

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<v Speaker 1>watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I saw that one.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, we really care about these cars and that's

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<v Speaker 1>no jibe man on a gm ad and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they're trying to be hip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my final thought on it. I love it. It

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<v Speaker 2>does not taint my Star Wars experience or my love

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<v Speaker 2>for the franchise, and I'm glad it is out there

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a fun little stain that shouldn't be taken

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<v Speaker 2>too seriously. I think it adds to it actually, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's campy and awful, and I don't know somehow that

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<v Speaker 2>enriches the rest of it. I'm with you, you like it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I watched it twice. I wouldn't watched

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<v Speaker 1>it a second I wouldn't have made it through the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. Let me take that back, as I'm a pro. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have made it through the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have watched it a second time if I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't something about it, and I figured out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that I like the most about it

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<v Speaker 1>is Lumpy Chewbaca's son Yeah, played by an actress named

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Patty Maloney, who frankly is hands down the best actor

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire thing. She like her response is and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my favorite parts are, well, there's a great

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<v Speaker 2>Wilhelm scream.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I noticed that troop.

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<v Speaker 2>For trips over the laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry would not have noticed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's a part where all the wokie dialogue

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you can't understand. But there's clearly one part where where

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Itchy and Lumpy are having exchange where Lumpy you can

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<v Speaker 2>make it out, goes I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's covered up. But someone was like, we have

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 2>to have at least one exchange where you sort of

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, or they were like, I think she has said

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<v Speaker 1>I love you. Should we have them redo it? And

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<v Speaker 1>the director's like, no, I want to go and Chuck.

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>There's one other thing that I figured out from watching this.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that it's not readily apparent the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>made all the more odd, and that there's situation after

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>situation after situation where we, as normal audiences, were trained

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to expect the laugh track. There's not a laugh track,

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and there's been a laugh track. It might have been

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>less bizarre, but the fact that it's missing just makes

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>your agitates the mind. So it's this whole additional element

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<v Speaker 1>that it is weird.

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I never thought about that. There's just weird moments of

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 2>silence all throughout it.

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like when Ark Carney's doing his thing.

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'm telling jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck, don't take things

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<v Speaker 1>too seriously. I think that's the great lesson in this.

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the lesson of life day it is.

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 2>And in two thousand and seven, Riff tracks the Great

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Mystery Science Theater. Three thousand guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett,

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>and Kevin Murphy provided audio commentary for the full version

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 2>of the special. So try and go grab that if

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 2>you can as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can, it's on their site because it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like eight bucks and.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys are awesome.

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, at least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think we did this. There's some good stuff.

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Go read the Vanity Fair article han Solo Comedy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a book called How Star Wars Conquered the Universe

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<v Speaker 1>that has a very interesting chapter about this. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>we found it asserted that George Lucas never said that

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<v Speaker 1>he would smash this thing with a sledgehammer, right, And

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.360
<v Speaker 1>there's also an entire website dedicated to it, Star Wars

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Holiday Special dot com. Yeah, and if you want to

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>know more about the Star Wars Holiday Special, we have

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a ton of hard Star Wars stuff on how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have cool sort of fun articles about the

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<v Speaker 2>Death Star and Lightsabers.

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<v Speaker 1>Videos with the Holly Fry from Stuff You missed a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who she knows her stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She does. So you can just type Star Wars in

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<v Speaker 1>the search bar at how stuff works dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>it will bring up some cool stuff for you. Since

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<v Speaker 1>I said search bar, it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, just finished listening to the Voyage Manuscript podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Found it's super interesting, especially the theories on its definition

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<v Speaker 2>or origin. I no Josh mentioned Chuck Siri, but being

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<v Speaker 2>drug induced is somewhat surprising or even unlikely given them

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<v Speaker 2>language and the manuscript follows linguistic laws only founded in

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<v Speaker 2>the past one hundred years. But if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tough. It's tough to stray away from familiar structures,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for something like language. I think back to when

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I was younger and friends invented their own languages, or

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<v Speaker 2>even in writing a song or poetry. Creativity can sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>be limited by what we know, So just thought I

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<v Speaker 2>contribute that to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks big, thanks for all you guys do. I found

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast after moving to San Diego in the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years for some noise around my apartment. So basically

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<v Speaker 1>We do that and.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Love and then as a way to get through

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<v Speaker 2>traffic on my commute home from work. You guys are

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<v Speaker 2>far more interesting and enjoyable than television and YouTube videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I've listened to hundreds and we'll continue to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to hundreds more. Keep on keeping on. That is

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<v Speaker 2>from Amy J. Moffett.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Amy in San Diego. Does that mean

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