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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Buck with you on

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Speaker 1: a Monday in December, Buck, where the weather is cool.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I forgot going to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I've got this in my mind

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Speaker 1: that Atlanta's warm this time. Here off the plane, the

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Speaker 1: charters are like, whoa, it's football weather out here. I think, God,

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Speaker 1: this game's endorsed. How you doing, Bud Man?

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Speaker 3: I am good. It was a great holiday weekend.

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Speaker 4: It was really watching a bunch of football.

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Speaker 5: We're going to get into some of the robberies and

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Speaker 5: college football that showed up and you just love all

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Speaker 5: of that stuff about college football, but then also some

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Speaker 5: very compelling NFL games that I think there are a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of lessons to be learned from those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. We're going to get to the NFL

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Speaker 1: that we will tackle as well. But I do want

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Speaker 1: to start with your take on what took place college football.

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Speaker 2: Over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Some crazy games man in saying all the fighting and

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Speaker 1: the flag and all that stuff that's already been hit

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Speaker 1: on by every show under the Suns. I don't even

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Speaker 1: really care about that. We can leave that alone. But

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Speaker 1: just biggest takeaways. I want to start first of Ohio

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Speaker 1: to walk into a team meal room and see Jesse

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh while Ohio State and Michigan is coming down to

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Speaker 1: the close. That was I just sat in there. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even at some point time, I'm not even watching

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Speaker 1: interaction there that was taking place.

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Speaker 2: But it was a trip.

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Speaker 3: I think that game.

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Speaker 5: I think that game captures all of the stuff that

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Speaker 5: we love about college football. Go to records out two

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Speaker 5: teams that really don't like each other, like there's a

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Speaker 5: real rivalry. Anyone who has had an opportunity to go

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Speaker 5: the field, the disdain that Ohio State fans have for Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Fans, like that is a real thing.

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Speaker 5: And then when you go into the stadium and you

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Speaker 5: feel the energy between the two participants, you know is real.

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Speaker 4: But to me in spite of all the contentiousness.

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Speaker 5: The compatitiveness, the acrimony that exists between the two teams.

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Speaker 5: Styles make fights, and there is a confidence that a

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Speaker 5: when they've had success over a team that Deybut as

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Speaker 5: a finesse squad, you can talk about being a tough team,

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Speaker 5: but your actions must match your words, and for the

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Speaker 5: Michigan Wolverines, their actions match their words, particularly in big games.

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Speaker 5: They ran the football, they played great defense with Wink Mardell.

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Speaker 5: Regardless of their quarterback situation, they committed to a style

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Speaker 5: that is their brand, and over time you could feel

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Speaker 4: Why is this game close?

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Speaker 3: Why are they still here?

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Speaker 5: They're not supposed to be as good. We're supposed to

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Speaker 5: walk all over them. Everyone said that we're superior to

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Speaker 5: of style, and their ability to punch for higher state

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt and look our buddy Joe Klatt listened

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Speaker 1: not playing Loveland, the tight ends not playing. So who

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Speaker 1: are their best two remaining football players. It's those two

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Speaker 1: some teams unleash those backs. Not this one, this one.

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Speaker 1: They are not good on the outside. I saw Oregon.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here looking at this Ohio State collection

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. And so the big thing.

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Speaker 3: About robbery games and you played in them in college.

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Speaker 5: I played in them in college, and then the pros like,

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Speaker 5: the thing that you have to do is you got

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Speaker 4: On Ohio State in a major way. And that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: They were able to control the game, they were able

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Speaker 2: There was plenty of it players.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching it live, and I think those guys got mazed,

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Speaker 4: Because I love the robbery games, I love all of

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Speaker 5: Have to discuss the sportsmanship element of games, because everyone

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Speaker 3: Guys like play really hard and then.

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Speaker 4: To the numbers, wave at each other and then we're out.

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Speaker 5: Don't want to see is someone seriously get hurt over

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Speaker 4: Lightning rod the flag planning is going to bring about.

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Speaker 5: I we're not doing that, like like, knock it off,

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Speaker 4: Don't don't participate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, look I don't mind the woofing in the

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Speaker 2: And then let's move forward. We don't need any more

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Speaker 1: But that was That was the big college football moment

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Speaker 5: I think Sark has probably the perfect pedigree to.

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Speaker 5: His experiences with two guys that are great legendary coaches,

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Speaker 5: And when you look at Texas size wise, they stack

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Speaker 5: And man, I can't wait to see the SEC Championship

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an insane game. Eight overtimes. Sitting there

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Speaker 1: of things here, Buck, I want to start. First of all,

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Speaker 1: we're going to roll through these games here Chicago Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Not so much about the finish of that ball game.

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Speaker 1: It's been well discussed that just they just massive failure.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to blame head coach, offensive coordinator, quarterback,

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Speaker 2: But let's look forward.

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Speaker 1: I saw Kevin Warren, their president, came out and said

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Speaker 1: this will be the most coveted job. A. You buying that?

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Speaker 1: And B is there anybody that jumps to mine that

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think the job is coveted because

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Speaker 5: What you have is you have some intriguing pieces, but

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Speaker 5: I think you have to build a brand and identity.

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Speaker 4: And as much as I like Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 5: What's interesting to me is everyone loves to beat up

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Speaker 4: There are a couple of things that stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: Need to build it, but play the game the way

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Speaker 4: It, so your best players.

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Speaker 4: You can never go wrong taking good players. And I

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Speaker 1: took you in the first round. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: I paid you in free agency. We're going to keep

442
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Speaker 1: adding talented players at your position. It breeds competition. They

443
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Speaker 1: have that at a lot of positions. This is a

444
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Speaker 1: really deep roster that Brian Gudikins is built there. So look,

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Speaker 1: I give him, I give them their love here. They're

446
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Speaker 1: sitting here at nine and three. They're right in the

447
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Speaker 1: mix to go chase a conference championship. So it's a

448
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Speaker 1: it's an impressive job there. I do want to say

449
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Speaker 1: Tua for going into that environment.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I thought he played well. They're five and seven right now.

452
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Speaker 1: They're going to need to get on a pretty big

453
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Speaker 1: run to try and backdoor their way into the playoffs.

454
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Speaker 1: But they are still alive here at five and seven.

455
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still alive. I think some of the things

456
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Speaker 5: that you worry about with two incode, whether it shows up.

457
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Speaker 5: It's hard for a guy who doesn't have what I

458
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Speaker 5: called superior arm talent, a plus arm talent sometimes to

459
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Speaker 5: play in inclement a windy conditions. But it does a

460
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Speaker 5: really good job of working inside the numbers and in

461
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Speaker 5: that game, it's a lot of short intermediate inbreaking routes

462
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Speaker 5: that he was able to utilize. They have to figure

463
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Speaker 5: out knowing how the team is constructed, how their quarterback

464
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Speaker 5: prefers to play. To me, it's about them understanding how

465
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Speaker 5: they need to build the team and how they.

466
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Speaker 4: Need to set it up, and it comes to winning

467
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Speaker 4: their schedule so.

468
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Speaker 5: They get home games. Because where Hiss Greate as too,

469
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Speaker 5: it is directing this offense. He's a different player when

470
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Speaker 5: he has to play in the cold.

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Speaker 3: And you don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Play those cold games in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, well, at first, you don't want to play

474
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Speaker 1: cold games in the playoffs. But this Dolphins team, they

475
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Speaker 1: just want to get to the playoffs. Buffalo Bills just

476
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Speaker 1: trounced the forty nine ers. I don't say we put

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Speaker 1: a nail in their coffin because that division still hasn't

478
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Speaker 1: really completely run away from them, but you've got a

479
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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey injury. It feels like, you tell me there's

480
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Speaker 1: no excuses for Buffalo not to come out of the

481
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Speaker 1: AFC this year. Like it's all lined up for him

482
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Speaker 1: right now, even if they have to go on the

483
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Speaker 1: road to Kansas City. How those team's built, what Kansas

484
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Speaker 1: City looks like. Even though they're winning ballgames, this feels

485
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Speaker 1: like it's now or never for Buffalo.

486
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's urgency that they're playing with Seohn

487
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Speaker 5: mcdummot has done a really good job.

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Speaker 4: I remember DJ coming into it. Many of us, I mean,

489
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Speaker 4: I for sure thought that they were going to take

490
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Speaker 4: a step back.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think that they would be in the conversation

492
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Speaker 5: as the team to beat in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: But that's where they are. This is a team that

494
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Speaker 4: has an urgency and energy about them.

495
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Speaker 5: They're feisty, they're competitive, and they're well constructed. They are

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Speaker 5: fun because.

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Speaker 3: DJ, they don't have what we would call like.

498
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Speaker 4: A bunch of blues, a bunch of A level players,

499
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Speaker 4: but man, they got a collection of b's and b

500
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Speaker 4: pluses that play to the max. And with Josh Allen

501
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Speaker 4: playing at an MVP level.

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Speaker 5: This team can knock off anybody. And what is great

503
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Speaker 5: about what Josh Allen has done. He's mature to the

504
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Speaker 5: point that he understands how to kind of toe that

505
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Speaker 5: line between game manager and playmaker and when to kind

506
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Speaker 5: of throw his body in harm's way and when.

507
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Speaker 4: To play it kind of straight and conservative. It's really

508
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Speaker 4: worked out for his outum.

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Speaker 1: There's been years in the past where I feel like

510
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Speaker 1: Josh has got beat up, you know, towards the end

511
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Speaker 1: of the regular season and wasn't quite one hundred percent,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, with his legs. He's got six rushing touchdowns

513
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Speaker 1: this year. I went back and watched all of them.

514
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Speaker 1: So you got two on zone reads, you got three

515
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Speaker 1: on scrambles, you got one on a sneak. For a

516
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Speaker 1: team that you can talk about maybe not the most

517
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Speaker 1: dynamic skill positions, it's high school football. He's the X

518
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Speaker 1: factor with what he can do with his legs. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm just like, man, Okay, you clinched the division,

520
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Speaker 1: your fifth consecutive AFC East Crown here.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it.

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Speaker 1: Matters with this team how they're built, whether you're out,

523
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Speaker 1: you're at home, or on the road. And I'm not

524
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Speaker 1: saying you can't. You can't shut it down, you know,

525
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Speaker 1: shut it down, shut it down. But man, just keep

526
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen healthy. Tell him we don't need you to

527
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Speaker 1: be Superman down the stretch here we punched our ticket.

528
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Speaker 1: I need you to be one hundred percent because if

529
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is one hundred percent healthy bucket, he just

530
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Speaker 1: unleashes his athleticism. You know, as you a high school

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Speaker 1: coach have seen when you've got the biggest, baddest nude

532
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Speaker 1: on your team like that, to me is the most

533
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Speaker 1: important thing. If they get Josh Allen healthy going into

534
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Speaker 1: the playoffs and he can be aggressive and run, you know,

535
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Speaker 1: eight to twelve times a game like he's a high

536
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Speaker 1: school quarterback, they're going to be a very tough out man.

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Speaker 5: Well, the beautiful thing about the way Josh Allen plays

538
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Speaker 5: and the way that Joe Brady's calling the game, you

539
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Speaker 5: can control and dictate how many times he touches the

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Speaker 5: ball on.

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Speaker 3: The perimeter as a runner.

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Speaker 5: You can tell them to take a little more conservative approach.

543
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Speaker 5: And I think he has kind of learned when to

544
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Speaker 5: insert himself into the game. Normally, D day when you

545
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Speaker 5: really watch him run. He runs it in third critical situations,

546
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Speaker 5: two minute drills.

547
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Speaker 4: Red zone, red zone like he doesn't.

548
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Speaker 5: He's not recklessly just kind of running around at all times.

549
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Speaker 5: He picks and chooses his thing, which is very similar

550
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Speaker 5: to the way that Pat Mahomes uses his legs when

551
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Speaker 5: it comes to scrambling and buying time and doing those things.

552
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Speaker 4: As these guys get.

553
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Speaker 5: Older as mobile quarterbacks, they kind of understand when they

554
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Speaker 5: kind of use that part of their superpowers to help

555
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Speaker 5: their team staying games and win games.

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've done a good job of picking

557
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Speaker 1: your spots, but I think you also understand volume wise,

558
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Speaker 1: we get into the playoffs, we can step that up

559
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I just feel like that

560
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen with his legs has got to be a

561
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Speaker 1: big part of this Buffalo offense for them to go

562
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Speaker 1: chase the title, which it's all right there for him,

563
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Speaker 1: It is set up for him. This is their time.

564
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Speaker 1: They need to go get it done this year. Another

565
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Speaker 1: team that's right in the mix with him, though, Buck

566
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh just keeps rolling. They find different ways to win

567
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Speaker 1: ball games. Russell Wilson goes for four to fourteen three

568
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and a pick. In this ballgame, Cam Hayward got

569
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Speaker 1: a sack. That's his sixth sack this year. He's thirty

570
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Speaker 1: five years old. So my saucy nug is that is

571
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Speaker 1: a sneaky position that can age well. I think of

572
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Speaker 1: defensive tackles, guys like Ted Washington, I think of Kalais Campbell,

573
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Speaker 1: who's still going Cam Hayward's still playing at a high level.

574
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Speaker 1: We think of like, okay, quarterbacks, kickers, they can play

575
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Speaker 1: a long time. You age out of obviously running back

576
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Speaker 1: very early. Receiver seems to be about age thirty even

577
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Speaker 1: edgdreshers as you maybe lose a little bit of juice.

578
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Speaker 1: Defensive tackles, Surprisingly, some of these big time defensive tackles

579
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Speaker 1: aged quite well.

580
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Speaker 5: D You know why because about toughness and technique at

581
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Speaker 5: that position. Tough guys can hold a point namek or

582
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Speaker 5: hit the nose tackles technique. Guys can use their hands

583
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Speaker 5: and whip as we talk about like the tomato can

584
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Speaker 5: on the inside. Ye have that kind of production. You're

585
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Speaker 5: right when you think about some of the guys who

586
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Speaker 5: played a long time at the position to Ted Washington's

587
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Speaker 5: of the world, Yeah, they were older guys but man,

588
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 5: their strength, the building, the kind of controller at the

589
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Speaker 5: point of attack. I think about bench Willfork and what

590
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Speaker 5: he was able to do. Uh, there is something to that. Indeed,

591
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 5: get that experience. That experience matters. And we've talked about it,

592
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Speaker 5: and we've talked about it in baseball terms before about

593
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Speaker 5: being strong right down the middle. It always applies in

594
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Speaker 5: football too, having that that gray beard in the middle,

595
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Speaker 5: whether it's a nose tackle, linebacker, free safety. The intelligence,

596
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Speaker 5: the experience, the instincts, those things matter.

597
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Speaker 4: I think we're seeing there with Cam.

598
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Speaker 2: Hayward anything quickly.

599
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Speaker 1: On the Cincinnati side of it, Man, they score bazillion

600
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Speaker 1: points and lose again.

601
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just don't have the defensive personnel to be able

602
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Speaker 4: to compete. I love Joe Burr and what Joe Burr

603
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Speaker 4: has been able to do.

604
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Speaker 5: But it just they're not able to compliment what they

605
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Speaker 5: do offensively with their defense. And I'll say this, man,

606
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Speaker 5: they give away too many games at the beginning of

607
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Speaker 5: the year.

608
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Speaker 4: We've talked about Andy Reid and how Andy Reid.

609
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Speaker 5: And those guys jump out ahead of the group. You know,

610
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Speaker 5: they win those early games.

611
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Speaker 4: And so they don't have to kind of scuffle and

612
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Speaker 4: scrape to get into the postseason. The Bengals havent giving

613
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Speaker 4: away games the first month of the season, and I

614
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Speaker 4: feel they they spend their time in chase mode where

615
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Speaker 4: they should be trying to win a division in those

616
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Speaker 4: things with the talent that they have on the ross.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, what a disappointing year for the Cincinnati Bengals. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Let's get to Minnesota Arizona. This

620
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Speaker 1: is a close game, comeback win. I had this thought.

621
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Speaker 1: I looked this up and this is my takeaway in

622
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Speaker 1: this game. I'm curious to see not only how Minnesota

623
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Speaker 1: finishes the year ten and two having a phenomenal year,

624
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Speaker 1: but where is this going the off season. Let's get

625
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Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves just for one second. They draft a

626
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Speaker 1: quarterback JJ McCarthy's. He gets hurt, so he's on the shelf.

627
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Speaker 1: Not going to see him at all this year. Sam Donald,

628
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Speaker 1: you have the keys to the car. Sam Donald's having

629
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Speaker 1: a great year. Let me give you the numbers he's

630
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Speaker 1: projected for. He's on pace four right now, Buck, you're ready.

631
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Speaker 1: He's on pace for forty one eighty two yards. He's

632
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Speaker 1: completed sixty seven point six percent of his passes, So

633
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Speaker 1: that's the completion percentage, that's the yardage. I went back

634
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Speaker 1: and looked up Alex Smith. Right, you draft Patrick Mahomes,

635
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Speaker 1: but we're going to be paid and we're gonna sit

636
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: him behind Alex Smith. Alex Smith that year, Alex Smith

637
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: threw for four forty two yards sixty seven point five percent,

638
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Speaker 1: So just literally almost identical numbers to what Sam did.

639
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Sam's on pace for thirty three touchdowns, fourteen picks. Alex

640
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: Smith twenty six and five in that year. So Sam's

641
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: having this year which is incredible, and there's part of

642
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Speaker 1: me just sitting here going like, well, you can't let

643
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Speaker 1: him walk. I know you drafted another quarterback, but he's

644
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: playing at this high of a level. It's going to

645
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: be fascinating to see if they believe JJ McCarthy has

646
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: another gear. Obviously the Chiefs believe that Mahomes had another gear,

647
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Speaker 1: and they were approved, right because in a year where

648
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: the draft doesn't look great at quarterback, man Sam Darnold

649
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: in a you know, if you were to tag and

650
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: trade him, you'd have a heck of an asset there too. So, man,

651
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Speaker 1: that is just forecasting into the offseason. One of the

652
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Speaker 1: fascinating decisions that's going to be forthcoming.

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Speaker 4: Let's add to it, right, So Daniel Jones signs with

654
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Speaker 4: the private squad to be around with Kevin O'Connell and

655
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Speaker 4: with the Minnesota Vikings for the rest of the year.

656
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Speaker 4: It gives Kevin O'Connell and the front office an.

657
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Speaker 5: Opportunity to look at Daniel Jones to see where he is,

658
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Speaker 5: to kind of wagh the pros and cons of where

659
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: that he is a reclamation project that they can give

660
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 5: the Sam Donald blueprint and utilize him while JJ McCarthy

661
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: is continuing to develop as they auction off Sam Donald

662
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: for some more picks.

663
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 4: That's why it was such a wise move for them

664
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: to get.

665
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: In on Daniel Jones, for Kevin McConnell's to kind of

666
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 5: just throw verbal bouquets in Daniel Jones direction because it's

667
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: another chip man, it's another pawn on the chessboard, that

668
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: another piece that they can use to help this team

669
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: have staying power at the top of the division or

670
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: at the top of the industry.

671
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Well, well, it's a big win for the Minnesota Vikings,

672
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: comeback win. It's a really complete football team. Arizona six

673
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: and six they're still right in the mix, just behind

674
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: the team we're going to talk about next here. That's Seattle.

675
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: Big comeback win for the Seahawks against the Jets. Jets

676
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: had them dead to rights. Then Seattle. Leonard Williams has

677
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: been playing lights out out man. He's been awesome in

678
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. His tape last week was fun

679
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: to watch. I'm excited to get a chance to really

680
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: dig in and watch the cutups in this one because

681
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: some of the highlights right here, what he just did

682
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: to John Simpson is ridiculous. And then you look at

683
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: the pick six. He was all over the field. Man

684
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: all over the field for LARRYN Williams. So big win

685
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks. JSN four for seventy four. He's

686
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: got seventy catches over eight hundred yards and four touchdowns.

687
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: What a heck of a year for him so far

688
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: as well.

689
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, really good break I mean, really impressive breakout season

690
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 5: for JSN as a slot receiver because he's doing most

691
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: of his damage from the slat.

692
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: We talked about him.

693
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: He was a great route runner.

694
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 5: He's another one of those skill pass catches that we

695
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: have seen have a lot.

696
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: Of success in the league.

697
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Love all of that.

698
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: What I really like about the Seattle Seahawks.

699
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: Team is I feel like they are.

700
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 5: They built upon the legacy of Pete Carrolyn what they

701
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: did there, but they've done it in a different way.

702
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: Me.

703
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll and those guys are really good at developing players,

704
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: really good.

705
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: At taking chances on players and having putting them in

706
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 5: spots where it worked out.

707
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: I think you have.

708
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: All of that same developmental approach with a more structured, discipline,

709
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: detailed leader and Mike McDonald and as they're kind of

710
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: embracing his style and listening to Jared Reed and some

711
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 5: of the other players talked about how they needed a

712
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: little more structure.

713
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: To me, John Snyder.

714
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: Really did a great job of picking a head coach

715
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 5: that could take the program to the next step. Mike

716
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 5: McDonald appears to have the potential to take this program,

717
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: this organization, this team to the next level, just based

718
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: on what he asked of the team as a coach

719
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 5: and leader.

720
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

721
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: I like watching them, man, They're fast, they play hard,

722
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: they're physical. It's been fun to watch this entire really

723
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: team come together in JSN having a phenomenal campaign there,

724
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: reaching his potential as well. All right, staying in the

725
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: NFC Rams Saints. The Rams just one game back, big

726
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: win for them against the New Orleans Saints, who are

727
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, they're hanging around. They're in

728
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: these games, but they're four and eight, not really going anywhere,

729
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: and that I don't want to say it this way,

730
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: but they just feel like they could be stuck in

731
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: there not going to be terrible, not going to be

732
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: good world. They could be stuck in that world for

733
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: a few years, especially as they try and navigate some

734
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: salary cap stuff going forward.

735
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one wants to be in that world. It's

736
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: like the worst place to be.

737
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 5: You're not bad enough to benefit from being a bad

738
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: team to get a top pick that can can't help

739
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: you flip the roster. You're not good enough to compete

740
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 5: and be a serious contender in the postseason, so you're

741
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: right around average. And when you look at this team,

742
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 5: you just think about where they need to improve. Man,

743
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: there's so many pieces that they need to add to

744
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: be one of those teams that compete with the emerging

745
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: teams in the NFC. The best thing that probably could

746
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: happen for the Saint is that it kind of falls

747
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 5: apart down the stretch. They're able to get into the

748
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: top ten, top five of a pick, and they're able

749
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 5: to start the rebooting process of this team, because no

750
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 5: matter who becomes a coach, they're going to have to

751
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: blow this thing up a little bit to build it

752
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 5: good from the ground up.

753
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

754
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: No, it's interesting to see how they go forward the

755
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: RAMS side of things. They've got Buffalo at home this week.

756
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: Massive game, Massive game. They were a little bit short

757
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: against the heavyweight against the Philadelphia Eagles. They go win

758
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: on the road, big win over the Saints. But now

759
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: you come home and you got a big heavyweight coming

760
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: in Buffalo.

761
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: So that's going to be a challenge.

762
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: And if you thought the Philadelphia Eagles took over that

763
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: stadium way do you see Bill's Mafia. That's gonna be

764
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: a home game for them. So it's gonna be a

765
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: big test. Next week will be big for the Rams.

766
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Theory on this next one, Tampa Bay Carolina, we've seen

767
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: and this was a game Tampa Bay. Give them their flowers.

768
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: They won the ball game, they get back to six

769
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: and six, it's an overtime win. But I want to

770
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: hit Bryce Young on this one. A fourth quarter comeback.

771
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: He made some big throws. You're seeing him get better

772
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: and better and better, and I thought, this is my takeaway.

773
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: Remember Drew Brees early on in his career, and I'm

774
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: not saying Bryce young as Drew Brees, but it took

775
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: a minute, right. He didn't just launch right into the NFL.

776
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: And the reason being is it's not There's a difference

777
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: between the physically gifted, who you know can get out

778
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: there and do things physically and that buys them time

779
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: while they're trying to learn. Then there's guys like Bryce

780
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: and he will put him in the category of Drew

781
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: Brees as guys that rely on mastery more than the

782
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: physical gifts. So you give a guy who's not as

783
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: physically gifted more time to become a master in his offense.

784
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: The understandings there. You saw it when I watched this

785
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: game and watch this tape this morning. The anticipation was excellent,

786
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: the timing was there. He was able to fit some

787
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: balls in. Because of that, I think it's maybe it

788
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: requires just more patience when you got guys who are

789
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: going to rely on mastery over physicalities.

790
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: What I'm getting at, Let's.

791
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: Say we started putting prospects into the two different buckets.

792
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: When it comes to quarterback, we have the talented ones

793
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: and then we have the technical one.

794
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: Right relative technic the technical category. Everything has to be

795
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: lined up. Footwork, mechanics, understanding of the system has to

796
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 5: be right for him to play at a high level.

797
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 5: When you talk about Drew Brees, that's how Drew Brees

798
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 5: strikes me. And it took and people forgive this. It

799
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: took Drew Brees having Philip Rivers right on his bumper

800
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: before he became the Pro Bowl player that he became.

801
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 5: It took Bryce Young having to sit down before he

802
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: was able to kind of.

803
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: Find his way in those things. The other thing that

804
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: I believe is underrated.

805
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: If you go back and look at Bryce Young's.

806
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 5: History went all the way back to high school DJ.

807
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 5: This is the first time that he's ever had on

808
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 5: field adversity. Everything was easy for him and it's not

809
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: his fault. But look, he was a great player at

810
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 5: modern Day High school in Santa Anna won a Ton

811
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: went to Alabama one a ton great player. This is

812
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 5: the first time between the lines he's been dealt the

813
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 5: short end of the stick. He has a short deck

814
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 5: when it comes to the cards. He's learning and showing

815
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: that he has the toughness and the resilience to bounce back.

816
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 5: The Carolina Panthers have one and lo Man, I think

817
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 5: they would regret pulling the plug on him. I think

818
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 5: he's shown enough that someone would take him and hit

819
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: his game, go to the next level with more time

820
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: and experience.

821
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: Who are they finding better than him right now? I

822
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: don't see one out there. Man, He's shown plenty to

823
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: me that you need to again swing your support behind him.

824
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: Get some more guys that can catch some football. For

825
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: crying out loud, I mean every time you watch him,

826
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a big drop in every single

827
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: one of these games.

828
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: Drew Brees.

829
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: To wrap that up, by the way, to put a

830
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: pin in this as we look forward. Drew Brees twenty

831
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns thirty one interceptions in his first two years

832
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: as an NFL starting quarterback. Well Buck, Max Crosby, Brock

833
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Bauers and the Las Vegas Raiders they always played the

834
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs tough almost got him again on this one.

835
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: The Chiefs, they get away with it. They win nineteen

836
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: to seventeen on a snap that came a little earlier

837
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: than nade O'Connell was expecting. Low and behold here the

838
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs are. They clinch a playoff berth for the tenth

839
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: consecutive season. I'm trying to be balanced here and respectful

840
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: of an eleven and one football team while also not

841
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: ignoring what my eyes are telling me, which is this

842
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: is a vulnerable team in Kansas City.

843
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, a vulnerable team and sometimes DJ you see this

844
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: with championship.

845
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 5: Teams, like they're able to win even after they're out

846
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: of their window or.

847
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 4: Out of their prime.

848
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 5: And what the Chiefs have is they have a toughness

849
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 5: and they know how of how to win these close games.

850
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 5: And when you have Pat Mahomes, who is the ultimate eracer,

851
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: you can win some of those.

852
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: To me, what I see from the Chiefs is a.

853
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: Team that is kind of coming together on offense, DeAndre

854
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: Hopkins coming over to be the compliment to Travis Kelce

855
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: Isaia for Checko coming back. The main issue that they

856
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: have is they can't block at the point of attack.

857
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: Their offensive tackle situation is one of the worst that

858
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 5: we've seen in football. And until they're able to solve that, yeah,

859
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard for the Chiefs to play that

860
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 5: we're accustomed to them playing because they simply can't protect

861
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 5: number fifteen in the pocket.

862
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: Scared to do it with the Chiefs. But man, this

863
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of that Philly team. It was

864
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: last year right where Philly gets off to that unbelievable record,

865
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: but people just weren't buying it. And now I look

866
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: at the schedule the Kansas City Chiefs. Their last five games,

867
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: they play four teams who would be in the playoffs

868
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: if the season, and today they got four tough games

869
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: coming up on their next five.

870
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: What did shocked you at all?

871
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: If Kansas City were to lose two or three of

872
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: these games coming down the stretch of that, there's such

873
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: a razor thin margin right now.

874
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: I mean, look, they living dangerously for sure, Like you

875
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: can't win fourteenth straight one score games the way that

876
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: they're doing block and field goals, finding ways for people

877
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 5: to drop snaps and snaps and all of the other stuff.

878
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: But I am hoping when I look at the team,

879
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: and when I.

880
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 5: Watch the game on Friday, it was really them leaning

881
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: on the vets, Kelsey Hopkins trying.

882
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: To get as there for Checko going and then the

883
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: magic that Pat.

884
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: Mahomes has is different, and it's going to be a

885
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 5: harder run for this team in the postseason.

886
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: Not quite ready to pour dirt on them. They're vulnerable

887
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: for sure.

888
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm gonna see him next week going there

889
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: with the Chargers. Chargers coming off a big win against

890
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. How's this for a saucy neg buck.

891
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: It's the lowest yards, the fewest amount of yards the

892
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: Chargers have had in a road win since nineteen sixty,

893
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: so the offense did next to nothing.

894
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: They get a pick six.

895
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: Tarheeb still fifth round pick out at a Maryland corner,

896
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: has two picks, including that pick six. Marcus May has

897
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: a pick after showing up this week. Tony Jefferson, who

898
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: had been scouting for the Ravens a couple of years ago,

899
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: he comes off to practice squad. He has a bunch

900
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: of tackles. Troyde gets in there and plays well at

901
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: the linebacker spot when you have no paramount, so a

902
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: lot of Joe Hortiz's moves they pay off and a

903
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: win over Atlanta where Kirk Cousins not good, let's just

904
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: put it that way.

905
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: With four picks, Yeah, not good, And I guess you

906
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 5: probably went the booth saying game for he's a.

907
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: Jolly good fellow, and no one can deny they got a.

908
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 5: Really good job of getting guys to buy in. And

909
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 5: we can talk about Jim Harbaugh being quirky and funny

910
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: and all of those other things, but what he does,

911
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: but he gets unbelievable buy in from his players, and

912
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: this team is all the way bought in on the

913
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: way they have to play d A. It doesn't matter

914
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: if they have to light up the scoreboard, if they

915
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 5: have to play a grinded out of fair, if they

916
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: have to find a way to get things done on

917
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 5: the special teams, they do it. And they are a

918
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 5: very dangerous team because to me, they're the unorthodox boxer

919
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: that you don't want to face in the ring. They

920
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 5: can make you play their style and man, just like

921
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 5: we saw in Michigan and Ohio State like sometimes man,

922
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: that style makes every game close. And they're so used

923
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: to winning these close games and making these.

924
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: Clutch plays they know how to get it done.

925
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: There's no fear in this team.

926
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: From the game.

927
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: I always after the game you were at, tell me

928
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: about what went down there in Jacksonville. Outside obviously the

929
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: huge hit on Trevor.

930
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: Look, I think you have to talk about the huge

931
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 4: hit on Trevor.

932
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 5: He you have Trevor Lawrence, a franchise quarterback, trying to

933
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: play through a shoulder injury to come back and give

934
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: the team some juice, not thinking that Okay, we're going

935
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: to get into the postseason. But hey man, I'm the

936
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: franchise quarterback, I'm the captain. I have to go down

937
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: with the ship and to see very early in the

938
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: game he is absolutely obliterated and knocked out.

939
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: Very disappointing. I would say the response from the team.

940
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 5: Is the part that really was disappointing to me, and

941
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: it shed a light on the culture and the team

942
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: in terms of the toughness and togetherness. DJ, You've worked

943
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: for two organizations where I know if that happened to

944
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: the franchise quarterback, they still would be brawling in the

945
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 5: parking lot right now. It is something that we talk

946
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: about and we talk about and scouting there's a code

947
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: and you always want to make sure when you're with

948
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: the Ravers and the Eagles, the players have to fit

949
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: the personality of the team. And I'm worried that when

950
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: you have an incident like this. It kind of poured

951
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: back the curtain on what the Jaguars aren't, and that

952
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 5: is like a really, really tough and physical football team.

953
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: Because that should have been sixty minutes of vigilanti juris

954
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 5: justice being served and I didn't see that, and so

955
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: it's alarming and disappointing for me.

956
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: Now, that was a throwback hit to like the Steve

957
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: Polor hit he took from Mike Singletary gon back, you

958
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: remember that. I think it was maybe late eighties, nineties

959
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: something like that. That was That was I haven't seen

960
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: a hit like that in a long time. But the Jags,

961
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: it's just been it's just been one of those years,

962
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: struggling along here two and ten, Houston trying to find

963
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: themselves here. Uh, they're sitting at eight and five, looking

964
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: like could be an interesting four or five seed matchup

965
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, with either a team like Baltimore or

966
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers potentially being the fifth seed. That will be

967
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: an interesting matchup there with the Houston Texans. The Monday

968
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: night game Cleveland Denver, bo Nicks to me as the headliner.

969
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him. See if you can keep

970
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: this thing rolling here at mile high. He's been awesome

971
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: at home.

972
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: He's been awesome at home, and Champagne has shown that

973
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: you can take a younger player, a rookie who has

974
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 5: a lot of colored experience, and you can help them

975
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 5: evolve from being a manager to a playmaker.

976
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: The way that they have slowly but surely, surely but

977
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: steadily developed bon Knicks, to me, is a blueprint for

978
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: how other teams should bring along with their young quarterbacks.

979
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: Started out being very conservative, run game screens, shorts, selected

980
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: isolated passes down the field, to now he is running

981
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: the pool playbook.

982
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: Look, man, it's a testament to Sean Payton and his

983
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: development of quarterbacks, but also the bow Knicks and his

984
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 5: readiness to play at a high level.

985
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: I think this could be a game for the Denver

986
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: defense as well. Sacks, interceptions, they could come in bunches

987
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: against Cleveland. Cleveland, are you gonna fight? They're gonna be aggressive,

988
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna try and push the ball down the field.

989
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: But with that, you're gonna get some turnovers, You're gonna

990
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: get some sacks. So man, the Broncos are playing really

991
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: really good football. Looking forward to that clash with the

992
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: Chargers coming up by the way on a Thursday night

993
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: in the very very near future. That's gonna be a

994
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: big ball game.

995
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 2: All right, Buck. This this was fun.

996
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: We covered a lot of grounds, didn't quite get to

997
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: every single game. Left time throughout the week to touch

998
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: on some of those other teams we missed. Go ahead, Buck,

999
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: what you got.

1000
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 4: No, that's what we do. We're talking about it next time,

1001
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 4: maybe on Tuesday.

1002
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming. It's coming, so be on the lookout

1003
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: for that. Appreciate you guys. We'll see you next time.

1004
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Right here on.

1005
00:42:51,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Move the sticks some of them before