Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why why? Oh? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, let's
Speaker 1: ding dong culture. Can I get a temperature check on
Speaker 1: you and myself? Yes? Do you want to risk her forehead? Well?
Speaker 1: Can I wait? Let's stop everything drop. Everything was gonna
Speaker 1: go into what they call a bit, but we have
Speaker 1: to talk about wrist temperature checks. Didn't know it was possible.
Speaker 1: It's happening all over. It's late Q two into No,
Speaker 1: we're not even we are technically in Q two now
Speaker 1: it's April. I think it's it's a Q two development
Speaker 1: now convention where it's like now everyone's over the forehead,
Speaker 1: bring me the wrist. Why don't you bring me the wrist?
Speaker 1: Why don't you can? I say, famously knew about being
Speaker 1: able to take a pulse on her wrist. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I've been around. You can take a pulse on her.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't feel my own can you my own? Beyonce? Um? Wait, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not as not as good as this guy? What
Speaker 1: where you kind of put it on your sort of
Speaker 1: next slash throat. This is a universal vascular accessibility point
Speaker 1: right here, right here, on the next now is that
Speaker 1: from your history as a premed student that you use
Speaker 1: that language just just general working vocab for physiology. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of hospitals, what, oh my god, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? You want to talk about? I want to
Speaker 1: talk about this is what? This is the temperature ture
Speaker 1: I wanted to do? How raw? How raw and real
Speaker 1: should I be today? Because there's something going on. Our
Speaker 1: guest is nodding raw does she know? She says, she's
Speaker 1: now think the words wrong. She will now so basically, okay,
Speaker 1: live readers, there comes a time in every young boy's
Speaker 1: life when they get a medically necessary ryanoplasty, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: that time has come for me. On Thursday, I'll be going,
Speaker 1: as they say, under the knife, yes, to get my
Speaker 1: nasal dermoid cyst removed. If this is this turning everyone on.
Speaker 1: This is not elected. Can't describe how badly I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it. And our guest is sort of
Speaker 1: asked this sort of you know, pondering whether or not
Speaker 1: that's true, sort of skeptical energy. But I will say, darling, dear,
Speaker 1: it's at the point where if if this sucker in
Speaker 1: my nose gets infected, it could absolutely kill me. So
Speaker 1: It's just like, I have to get this thing out
Speaker 1: of my nose, everyone, and the cyst is located so
Speaker 1: far in my septum. Again, hold the boner's down. I
Speaker 1: know you're absolutely rocketing off your couches where you obviously
Speaker 1: listen to a podcast sitting on your couch, well bellied
Speaker 1: down the stomach sleepers so that they get the boner
Speaker 1: and then well, you know, you know who's not going
Speaker 1: to be sleeping on the stomach for a while, this gal,
Speaker 1: because I got to sleep rocket it up in the chair. Basically, everyone,
Speaker 1: the plastic surgeon who get this put Mary Joe Buda
Speaker 1: Fucos face back together after Amy Fisher shot her in
Speaker 1: the face, so you know he's great. So you know
Speaker 1: he's good. Is taking a scalpel to my schnaws. I
Speaker 1: can't describe how much I didn't want to do this.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've put it off for many years. It
Speaker 1: is now no longer put off of ball and gotta go.
Speaker 1: So basically what I'm saying is like, this could be
Speaker 1: the last episode I do. No, No, Matt, what I'm
Speaker 1: reading about anesthesia is true. No, Matt, this is this
Speaker 1: is Have you had other kinds of surgery before famously
Speaker 1: my wisdom teeth or let's just say no longer there
Speaker 1: did they put you under for that? Okay? And it
Speaker 1: was fine. It was fine, except I came out and
Speaker 1: looked at my doctor in the eyes and said, you're
Speaker 1: not fucking McDreamy. That's an amazing post anesthesia line. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. The fact that you even remember my mother,
Speaker 1: she was there. She said that she looked at the doctor,
Speaker 1: he looked back at her, and it was sort of that.
Speaker 1: It was like two thousand and ten, so it was
Speaker 1: like my son's gay and made a joke, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, God, some some anesthesiologist doubt
Speaker 1: there has to put out a book like within Medically Ethics.
Speaker 1: That's what we need. Well, you know what they could
Speaker 1: do is they could do a ghost right name. So
Speaker 1: many people are doing it. I just want quotes. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be like FML style remember that site. I
Speaker 1: wanted to just be that I am so sorry that
Speaker 1: you are that you have anxiety about this horrible. I
Speaker 1: think this is just like a crucible you have to
Speaker 1: walk through and then and then and then you won't
Speaker 1: have to think about it. After the recovery, I felt
Speaker 1: I had to be honest about it because there is
Speaker 1: a possibility that it will look a little touch different.
Speaker 1: I told you I want to look as same as possible.
Speaker 1: But if it comes back, if it's like I disappear
Speaker 1: for a month, I come back with a different nose,
Speaker 1: I don't want to not I don't want people to
Speaker 1: think I did it cosmetically. Not that there's anything wrong
Speaker 1: with that Signfeld. You have one of the group, you
Speaker 1: have one of the great Greek noses of our generation.
Speaker 1: I'm not upset with it, and so the fact that
Speaker 1: it has to leave feels very sort of coming of age,
Speaker 1: my God, in the way that someone should. And that's
Speaker 1: some enthysiologists write a book about everyone. Um, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're the praying kind, please pray. Take to your name.
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even saying this, like ironically,
Speaker 1: I think people, if if you are, if you like
Speaker 1: to pray, you should pray for man. And also, don't
Speaker 1: damn me with your story about the time you woke
Speaker 1: up from anesthesia during a procedure, like, keep that to yourself.
Speaker 1: I guarantee I I am already handling for everyone the
Speaker 1: doomsday googling the doomsday googling has We're well on our way. Damn, damn, damn. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be great. I hope come out of
Speaker 1: it very happy. I hope it comes out snatched. Yes,
Speaker 1: and thank you for sharing and being wrong. I had
Speaker 1: to be wrong because I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: the readers deserve it. They deserve transparency from us. Do
Speaker 1: you want to say one transparent thing before we bring
Speaker 1: in our incredible guests. Yes, go ahead and be transparent.
Speaker 1: The transparent thing is that the reason why we did
Speaker 1: not have an episode last week is because Matt came over.
Speaker 1: Mai was in town, he came over to my apartment.
Speaker 1: We had a wonderful guest booked fifteen minutes before we
Speaker 1: were supposed to go on Zoom Go just record. I
Speaker 1: broke down into your sobbing um for for many reasons.
Speaker 1: We don't have to get into them. Yeah, our collective
Speaker 1: health has not been good. No, but it's but I
Speaker 1: think this is actually perfect. You had a hard week,
Speaker 1: It's fine. I think this is a perfect segue into
Speaker 1: introducing our guests because it's about wellness. And now here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Well, well, very much is very much is.
Speaker 1: But I think she um, she is someone who is
Speaker 1: just She's she's probably so sick of hearing this, but
Speaker 1: like what an intellectual healer, healer, intellectual healer, just just
Speaker 1: her and and her co host Jacklin Novak, she's been
Speaker 1: on the podcast before. What a true perfect lens to
Speaker 1: examine wellness through that they have in the podcast that
Speaker 1: they host together, which is called we should say right now,
Speaker 1: it's called Poog Poog. We're network siblings. Were so honored
Speaker 1: when I heard that we were going to be network
Speaker 1: siblings with this duo. I said, we made it. Only
Speaker 1: at that point did I say we had made it
Speaker 1: before I didn't care at all. I didn't care at
Speaker 1: all before that. No, um, we love her so much?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Can we say first of all? And
Speaker 1: I was like thinking back, do you remember when we
Speaker 1: watched five and like basically put it put it on
Speaker 1: again right after we were done. I literally And also
Speaker 1: I went watched the whole thing twice. And our guest
Speaker 1: doesn't really know, but I've sought out them performing live
Speaker 1: many times. I saw them that lyric. I even asked
Speaker 1: a question during the show. And I don't think the
Speaker 1: guests knew who I was at all, because I was
Speaker 1: kind of just like hiding in the shadows. But I
Speaker 1: asked the guests a question. The guests give an incredible
Speaker 1: sufficient answer. UM, an incredible sufficient Yeah. I got what
Speaker 1: I needed and she got she needed. I felt it
Speaker 1: was symbiotic. Both of you were fulfilled very much, UM
Speaker 1: and a true genuine honor. Oh yes, yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: one of those guests where it's like they haven't been
Speaker 1: on humiliating for us. Yes, humiliating for us. UM. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. Chee's here. Everyone, Welcome, Kate to become audible. Welcome,
Speaker 1: Thank you for that beautifully generous introduction. Welcome, Welcome. I'm
Speaker 1: honored to be here. Before the before we were rolling,
Speaker 1: I was saying, you know, this is a true top
Speaker 1: shelf podcast there in my digital cat will be reflected
Speaker 1: in the real world. I'm overjoyed to be here. Listen.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's truly it's I would consider it
Speaker 1: a peak of our lives. And we haven't we haven't
Speaker 1: really even really met that many times. But we met
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs when we went into each other at
Speaker 1: a restaurant. Of course, of course, that's the one time
Speaker 1: that's so sixties like we ran into each other in
Speaker 1: a and Palm Springs at a restaurant. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: such a glamorous can I tell you that to have happened.
Speaker 1: I had just touched down that night. I had flown
Speaker 1: in from New York. From New York into into Palm Springs.
Speaker 1: I was told to go straight from the airport to
Speaker 1: this restaurant to meet Matt. I sent something back that night,
Speaker 1: and I never send things back, and I did it
Speaker 1: very well, and it's a formative memory. Continued. I think
Speaker 1: you mentioned this to us. I think you mentioned this
Speaker 1: to us when you when you came in, said high
Speaker 1: knowing myself, probably ran at top speed to you, crumbled
Speaker 1: and told you everything. But but I have to know,
Speaker 1: was it a drink or a food? I never sent back?
Speaker 1: It wasn't that I did it beautifully. So this is
Speaker 1: one of the burden of growing up right, which is
Speaker 1: kind of the theme of my life ring And I
Speaker 1: think that sending things back, you know, of course, it's scary,
Speaker 1: you know, we're told to feel wrong about it. I
Speaker 1: do it very rarely. You do great, You do it
Speaker 1: with love. You're not You're not there to some people
Speaker 1: send things back, you know, in a horrible way. They're
Speaker 1: being abusive. Of course, no one's sitting on this zoom
Speaker 1: is going to do that, right. I of course go overboard.
Speaker 1: I go too far, you know. I like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me wash a dish, you know, I like go
Speaker 1: to I like really want to know that. But I overcorrect.
Speaker 1: But why do I keep dropping into this? I feel
Speaker 1: like that's the sort time I've done that. You spend
Speaker 1: five minutes. That's a tick. I don't want to take
Speaker 1: it to you. You want to know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a it's you judging yourself because you feel you're
Speaker 1: you're talking about yourself doing a monstrous thing, and we
Speaker 1: want to tell you it's something that it needed to
Speaker 1: go back. The app needed to go back clearly, or
Speaker 1: wouldn't have also doing like Martin Shorts. Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: the okay, but the app, I just want to say
Speaker 1: it quickly. It was with melon, so we all are
Speaker 1: high summer melons should be succulent, they should should be fresh,
Speaker 1: they should be fresh. A shoot on melon can be
Speaker 1: more simple. What arrives at the plate, the shudo is
Speaker 1: is crispy, it's been cooked. So right there, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that should be on the right. You should tell me
Speaker 1: cooked for shooto, it's not. And then and it was
Speaker 1: over what can only be described as the most rigid
Speaker 1: melon that I ever encountered, flavorless and by the way,
Speaker 1: it was like a seventeen dollar app Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? This isn't This isn't. These aren't spiced
Speaker 1: cash shows for six dollars. You pop them back, you go,
Speaker 1: you know. So this was and I felt I had
Speaker 1: already established our poor with the with the server, of
Speaker 1: course we were close at that point. I felt comfortable
Speaker 1: and I said, God, you know, I'm so embarrassed here,
Speaker 1: but I just would you just you know, would you
Speaker 1: this This isn't the actual memory, but I was. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of myself. I think I was really able to
Speaker 1: with love be like, would you hate me if I
Speaker 1: sent this back? Ice? And I sending things back as
Speaker 1: a huge I think it's been discussed on poop, but
Speaker 1: I'll just say quickly it's a huge topic for me.
Speaker 1: And I once was so anxious about setting something back
Speaker 1: that I did an audio recording on my phone, thinking
Speaker 1: of the power performing for my phone. Then I would
Speaker 1: be able to do it and rise to the occasion,
Speaker 1: I still panicked and I said it was I was like,
Speaker 1: this is my greatest fear. But you know, and they
Speaker 1: don't care. Right, you're being polite. They're not gonna, don't you.
Speaker 1: I and not not not to move away from the
Speaker 1: discussion about sending things back, but I think I talked
Speaker 1: to you in the past about um, you using sort
Speaker 1: of voice memos or however you record on your phone
Speaker 1: as a way to like as like some generative tool
Speaker 1: in your not in your work. I just in terms
Speaker 1: of like you're you're playing to the phone in a way.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what it was specifically,
Speaker 1: but I feel like this is like, actually, no, this
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to um point that out to
Speaker 1: just to be like this is something that cape Lant does.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh, but that that has helped. That
Speaker 1: is like very self aware of you to be like,
Speaker 1: well let me, actually this is a helpful thing and
Speaker 1: let me do it. So I don't think I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you. I think you're handling this. You're you've
Speaker 1: handled all of these situations so well. But how many
Speaker 1: times have we done it? Total? Do you have we
Speaker 1: do we have account of back? Yeah? That's unfair. I
Speaker 1: you shouldn't answer that question. It's definitely under ten. We're
Speaker 1: clocking in it maybe five times. Did you did you
Speaker 1: evaluate the protudo with melon? This is purely aesthetically was
Speaker 1: it was it just like you looked at it, You're like,
Speaker 1: this is not good enough? It sat down. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm expected. But I was still prepared
Speaker 1: to fully dive in when when the melon hit my
Speaker 1: mouth and I thought, I mean, it just was. And
Speaker 1: I didn't say to her like, oh this is inedible
Speaker 1: or this isn't right. I just you know, I just
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of handwringing. Oh god, I it's
Speaker 1: been a hard year. I don't know what I did.
Speaker 1: But it was gone. And then there was I believe
Speaker 1: or something, and I was and we were back in business.
Speaker 1: And so this is the deal. It's like, So I
Speaker 1: was a server for many years, and so you have
Speaker 1: to understand I've been on the other side of this
Speaker 1: many times, and I feel like I was retailed and
Speaker 1: so that's that's I guess where the rub is. So
Speaker 1: that's that's I guess where it is. So so when
Speaker 1: I'm a server being told like I need to send
Speaker 1: this back. Usually it's something is being sent back for
Speaker 1: one or two reasons. One, I ordered this and it's
Speaker 1: not satisfactory. That's one too, This is not what I ordered.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you said, I ordered this, but
Speaker 1: it's not to my it's not to my satisfaction, it's
Speaker 1: not to my taste level. Quite literally, I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of power in that, because it's just it's
Speaker 1: just you are the type of person I want to
Speaker 1: be dealing with, because I, as a server, know that
Speaker 1: this person knows what they want and wants to come
Speaker 1: here and have a great experience mine do. I haven't
Speaker 1: been a server in many years, but I just sent
Speaker 1: something back last week and it was a cocktail, and oh,
Speaker 1: cocktails are classic. I mean I I can barely order
Speaker 1: a cocktail because it's just it's never unless you're getting
Speaker 1: a goddamn Tom Collins, something that's been written, you know, fixture,
Speaker 1: unless you're getting like this is a Manhattan, I'm getting
Speaker 1: ato growning. But once they start going, oh it's made
Speaker 1: with you know, once they start experiencing or like the
Speaker 1: craft Margarita's that they're fucking whipping up. Now, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something, darling, you just got it to keep
Speaker 1: it straightforward, because sometimes the thing about these craft cocktails
Speaker 1: is you've got a lot of ingredients, like there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on in them, and you miss one not drinkable,
Speaker 1: and they sure are heavy with the it's honeytown as
Speaker 1: soon astown, it's honeytown out there. And I and so
Speaker 1: I don't want a sweet cocktail and never ever in
Speaker 1: my life. Let me ask you a question, and I
Speaker 1: know the answer because of what you've said. But mimosa
Speaker 1: or bloody mary in the sort of wars of the
Speaker 1: mimosa and the bloody Mary, what's what's for you? I
Speaker 1: very wildly drank three mimosas yesterday in my home. What yes,
Speaker 1: it was. I'm sorry, but didn't we just say that
Speaker 1: sweet cocktail? Nor jumped out? I went here we go?
Speaker 1: I contained multitudes. Life is if i'd by paradox and
Speaker 1: I don't want a sweet cocktail. Yet I would say
Speaker 1: twice a year I wanted my most and yesterday was
Speaker 1: one of those days. Freshqueeze or o j okay, this
Speaker 1: was this is craft o jo, you know, very like
Speaker 1: an expensive thing of and a top shelf cova. And
Speaker 1: I also want to spell rumors. Oh, a good bottle
Speaker 1: of Cova is going to run you. At least you're
Speaker 1: gonna go bottle whatever you want. How you're feeling for
Speaker 1: Grand Crew? But I drink. I drank it and it
Speaker 1: was huge for me. So anyways, I have mostly but
Speaker 1: bloody Mary. Typically, I'm more for a bloody or bloody
Speaker 1: Maria because we loved Maria. And you know what, Bow
Speaker 1: and Yang. Have you ever tried a gin bloody Mary?
Speaker 1: I've not try to jim bloody Mary. Sometimes someday people
Speaker 1: that talk about Juniper when people are like always quick
Speaker 1: to be like, I did, this is Martin, This is
Speaker 1: Martin specifically, it's Jiminy just doing a bad king had
Speaker 1: some you know, she was you know, people loved her,
Speaker 1: you know, and through hadn't really found that role yet.
Speaker 1: And then and then we went back, we came back
Speaker 1: from COVID and she was just doing Jiminy. That's where
Speaker 1: we lost interest. She had such a thing, you know,
Speaker 1: she had such a thing. She lost it. I saw
Speaker 1: Martin short once outside of a restaurant, and he really
Speaker 1: is a god to me. And did you approach No?
Speaker 1: I could never approach. Actually that's not true. I could
Speaker 1: but I was too overwhelmed. I just I smiled and
Speaker 1: through the smile that it was translated it and he received,
Speaker 1: who have who have you approached that question? Love that question?
Speaker 1: I love that question. So I have I had did
Speaker 1: a terrible approach and I was I want to say,
Speaker 1: sixteen fifteen sixteen, I approached Owen Wilson, who was in
Speaker 1: a boarder's book. There was a CD section and I
Speaker 1: was very Rushmore was huge for me um and I
Speaker 1: went up to him and I was like, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry to bother you, but bottle Rocket Rushmore. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just a huge fan. He looked around very nervously, uncomfortably,
Speaker 1: but in a way that and even as a as
Speaker 1: a teen, I felt in his looking around, dare I
Speaker 1: say a performance of Oh I'm being bothered because there's
Speaker 1: no one in sight, you know what I mean? There
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a guy. I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not even trying. I'm not throwing him under the bus.
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying he was rude. But I just
Speaker 1: remember in the moment, I was like, oh, he's acting
Speaker 1: like a famous person, but he was a famous was
Speaker 1: coming up to him. But I did the unthinkable, which
Speaker 1: I was a child, would never do this. Now I
Speaker 1: reached my hand. See they don't you can't do they
Speaker 1: don't like that. Again, I was a child, and we're
Speaker 1: out of border. So what's the year like two thousand
Speaker 1: five four? Younger? Can I can I just say this
Speaker 1: might be like my own self selection bias talking. I
Speaker 1: feel like the rules for um famous person engagement, celebrity
Speaker 1: engagement were not widely set or known at the time.
Speaker 1: It's why the line was being crossed so many times.
Speaker 1: Really in that era of that era of let's just
Speaker 1: say it Perez Hilton, okay, he was sort of encouraging
Speaker 1: every want to go up jut their hand out at
Speaker 1: Owen Wilson and the like in the borders wherever I
Speaker 1: tried to shake it. I tried to take Jerry Seinfeldt hand.
Speaker 1: He told me he doesn't do that. Second side the
Speaker 1: reference of this episode. Don't know why this is happening.
Speaker 1: It's a competition between him and short. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: remember he gave me, he handed me his very limp
Speaker 1: It was a very very limp hand. And immediately remember
Speaker 1: the shame like filling me from my stomach up to
Speaker 1: my shoulders and I was like, what have I done?
Speaker 1: And then I you know, I'm sorry about ran away?
Speaker 1: So I did that approach? Um never recovered. Clearly, who
Speaker 1: else have I approached that thing? That might be my
Speaker 1: only approach? No, no, no no, no, no no. It sticks
Speaker 1: It sticks out to you, and I find that beautiful.
Speaker 1: Well it's because it sticks out because he made it
Speaker 1: a bad experience. And I'm gonna say terror, So you
Speaker 1: know what that's like. That's like, And this is where
Speaker 1: this comes from. And I'm diagnosing you don't like to
Speaker 1: send things back because you don't want to get an
Speaker 1: Owen Wilson response to that, because you were doing a
Speaker 1: perfectly lovely thing and you were saying, I enjoy what
Speaker 1: you do. And you were saying, as a person, that's
Speaker 1: engaging here and you when you go into a restaurant,
Speaker 1: and everyone at home, all the readers, when you, I
Speaker 1: want you to know, when you go into a restaurant,
Speaker 1: that's engaging. So kudos, you are engaging. And you if
Speaker 1: the waiter was to be like, well what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, well then we'll have some fun, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: But isn't that isn't that what you're afraid of? That
Speaker 1: the waiter will sort of feel like that's the way
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, that's the melon, or that they'll yeah,
Speaker 1: my fears that they're interpreting me is some you know
Speaker 1: princess who like can't my palette? I eat ship all
Speaker 1: the time. I know isn't good. And I pay and
Speaker 1: I and I do my I do my citizen duty,
Speaker 1: and I get out and I keep it to myself
Speaker 1: and we talk in the car. I I deal with it.
Speaker 1: I take it home with me. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: put it on you. But every now and then there's
Speaker 1: a hard melon at the peak summer season, and I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not paying seven. No. I can't even believe
Speaker 1: that was the o G price. I really think it
Speaker 1: was seventeen. Of course, having the urged cross refords the
Speaker 1: money that I want. No no, no, no no, probably
Speaker 1: season as we can't reference it. I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: K I feel like this podcast poog. I thought about this,
Speaker 1: and I hate to use these words, but I find
Speaker 1: it to be very brave and ready vulnerable that you
Speaker 1: guys are like that. You guys have to you guys
Speaker 1: have to like talk about your own experience with some
Speaker 1: wellness topic in order to engage in some meaningful conversation
Speaker 1: about it, and and every conversation is meaningful. But I'm
Speaker 1: always like, okay, so we So they had to both
Speaker 1: share that, like they, um, you know, don't like waking
Speaker 1: up at a certain Now that's a terrible example, but
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's like, you guys
Speaker 1: have to sort of reveal something about yourselves and it
Speaker 1: is deeply, deeply personal in order to like have the
Speaker 1: discourse that you guys want or the tone that you
Speaker 1: guys want to have. Thank you is would you? Would you? Okay?
Speaker 1: So no, I love that. I love that reading of it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's like also because there's something so embarrassing
Speaker 1: and vulnerable about being like I want face cream because
Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, you want to be pretty bitch.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like just in doing these things, which
Speaker 1: you know most of us do do, most of us
Speaker 1: are in some way inscribed in this system of trying
Speaker 1: to better ourselves, you know, from Nivia to I don't
Speaker 1: have that, but like these from Nia to clinic. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, keep going, keep going. But yeah, we all
Speaker 1: uh desire, we all have desires. We all have you know,
Speaker 1: some aspirational vision of and then just the kind of
Speaker 1: magical reality that's attached to products and that it's very real.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And you know it's interesting you bring up
Speaker 1: face creams because really this year it's the first year
Speaker 1: that I'm really diving into them, and I wish I
Speaker 1: could tell people, like some people are like, hey, your
Speaker 1: skins looking a little better. What are you doing? I
Speaker 1: buy everything, everything I buy, I put it all on
Speaker 1: my face at one time, so I don't actually even
Speaker 1: because because I guess I get in my head like
Speaker 1: it's the crisis of so many, it's the what do
Speaker 1: they call it, the plague of plenty? They don't call
Speaker 1: it that, but I'm calling that um plenty. It's like
Speaker 1: great books. Yeah, some mathysiologists should get on that. But
Speaker 1: but basically, I'll get all this ship and I'll feel like, well,
Speaker 1: I have to use all of it to make sure
Speaker 1: because something will work, and then I don't know now
Speaker 1: what works or what doesn't work because it's all on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that can't be good if you if you want to go,
Speaker 1: if you want to emerge like Korean Eastern skincare with
Speaker 1: like Western like dermatology skincare, The steps are cleans, clean's, toner's, foliate, serum, moisturized.
Speaker 1: And then if it's today, ESPF, if it's night, you
Speaker 1: do another sleeping mask or an I cream. That's the
Speaker 1: general order. You just want to like dinness to thickest.
Speaker 1: That's that's the guideline. And I don't claim to know,
Speaker 1: don't anything. That's the other thing. Well, you're saying, sin
Speaker 1: to thick change my life. You know, even just isn't
Speaker 1: it isn't so funny? Is that simple? And only just
Speaker 1: now was it ever really said for the consumer out there?
Speaker 1: And I dream of a life of you know, the
Speaker 1: woman with one cream like my my mother has has
Speaker 1: aged beautifully, she's seventy six. She like her skin is great.
Speaker 1: She doesn't really makeup. She uses drug store products, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why can't I like like she Now
Speaker 1: she's like she e'ts kind of whatever she wants, you know,
Speaker 1: she drinks at night. She has like a problem. But
Speaker 1: but no, but it's but now in this we have
Speaker 1: too many products. But but the fantasy of having no
Speaker 1: products is also its own magical reality. Right, It's like,
Speaker 1: I know, but you meet those people where they're like
Speaker 1: all I put on is perfume. It's like they're like,
Speaker 1: I use water and bar so, I use Irish spring
Speaker 1: under my eye. It's a whole It's a whole scene
Speaker 1: in Madman, like Megan Draper being like, yeah, my mother
Speaker 1: just washes her face with warm water and then like
Speaker 1: touches her face with the tips of her fingers like that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I'm mortified that I do. It's
Speaker 1: one of the only scenes from Madman that I remember vividly,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, why do I remember that scene
Speaker 1: of Jessica Parrow. That's the scene that stirred you. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is when your first meeting Megan and
Speaker 1: then like who is that? Who is that character? And
Speaker 1: then and then and then they make you love her
Speaker 1: and they really you who the who the hell was
Speaker 1: I I hated her because she was young and beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know, they really turned it on. You Know what
Speaker 1: I've never like sort of been more shocked by but
Speaker 1: also seen myself and more is the performance of Zoobie
Speaker 1: Zoobie Zoo. I really was just like so shocked that
Speaker 1: it was happening. And then by the end I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you And like I was like what is this
Speaker 1: show doing? And then I was like, no, wait, you
Speaker 1: want to know what people take? Big swings? They do
Speaker 1: so just because we don't see this like a recognize
Speaker 1: this in nature, I'm like, no, but there is a
Speaker 1: world where this woman has done this and we're watching it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big swing that is the sending back. Big swings
Speaker 1: are embar As saying. I mean, I think we're remember
Speaker 1: when there was like a little period of time, maybe
Speaker 1: a few years ago, where everyone was like sincerity, like
Speaker 1: earnestness is about to like have a moment in comedy
Speaker 1: is specifically, and I was like really, and then I
Speaker 1: guess that kind of came true. But now I think
Speaker 1: depend the period the frequency on the swing back is
Speaker 1: so quick now, you know how to you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like fashion trends recycle every thirty years, and now it's
Speaker 1: like twenty or ten. Like I feel like that that
Speaker 1: cycle is that the period literally is shrinking so that
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we're gonna like rock back and forth
Speaker 1: between these two poles every year now maybe like in
Speaker 1: a few years. And that is actually so so so
Speaker 1: upsetting and horrifying to me. Does that Am I making sense? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I think I'm everyone can't wait
Speaker 1: to see what's gonna happen the next five honutes. It
Speaker 1: does feel, but it is kind of I don't even
Speaker 1: know how I mean. You two are you know you
Speaker 1: you're you talk about culture and I feel so currently
Speaker 1: not outside of it, but like I can't even I
Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing anymore. No neither Joey. Oh please.
Speaker 1: That's why it's so crazy, because like I feel constantly
Speaker 1: out of the loop, Like like I feel like I
Speaker 1: opened the newspaper and front page is middle parts and
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm sorry, you can't get me to part
Speaker 1: my hair down the middle, Like it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That was something that actually did come to the surface
Speaker 1: for me. Somebody was like, oh, side parts are for
Speaker 1: old people, and I've been doing a side part since
Speaker 1: nine two, and I was just it hit me so
Speaker 1: hard and I tried to do a middle. I even
Speaker 1: doing it. You've done a middle, terrified me. I've done
Speaker 1: a middle. By the way, this could never happen from it,
Speaker 1: what I said was a lie. I'm lying on air.
Speaker 1: I'm lying on air. But I did center forever and
Speaker 1: then right before the pandemic, I think I started feeling
Speaker 1: flirty and I started going to the side and I
Speaker 1: this is me now. I was loving in the privacy
Speaker 1: of my home, and then someone told me that it
Speaker 1: was a sign of being. I feel like for men,
Speaker 1: a middle part is such a bi crazy like not
Speaker 1: like it's right thing, Like who do I think I am?
Speaker 1: Devin Sawa? Like is that even how you say that?
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think that is. Of course
Speaker 1: it looks looks fantastic with the middle part. You yeah,
Speaker 1: you have modern Well, I gotta say, like, it just
Speaker 1: feels like such a hard pivot, like you don't think
Speaker 1: you think, like, oh yeah, I guess that's true. Side parts,
Speaker 1: the middle part doesn't feel like a big deal, but
Speaker 1: it's really a face changer. And in terms of like
Speaker 1: what's popular in like comedy, film, television, whatever. I have
Speaker 1: no idea whether we're doing Fleabag or are we doing
Speaker 1: Austin Powers. I just feel like, is it both? Can
Speaker 1: it be both? I hope? So where do you found
Speaker 1: that spectrum kate between Fleabag and Austin Powers. Well, I
Speaker 1: recently tried to rewatch the spy who shocked me because
Speaker 1: it was. It was big when I was, however old,
Speaker 1: and well, yeah it wasn't. It didn't slap. The highlight
Speaker 1: of that film is the end where Fraud is counting.
Speaker 1: I didn't finish it, but Fraud counting down to the
Speaker 1: rocket is genius. I don't know if maybe that holds up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's great, but again didn't get that far.
Speaker 1: I also, we watched The Mask and I thought, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't like broad like. I know, I
Speaker 1: don't like really broad like in Austin Powers. I like
Speaker 1: a lot of it because a lot of it feels
Speaker 1: like specifically dumb like. But the Mask is literally just
Speaker 1: and I like Jim Carrey, but the Mask is like
Speaker 1: someone looking at camera and saying, somebody's that me, And
Speaker 1: I'm like that to me is like Toddler humor that
Speaker 1: I hope doesn't return. What I was couldn't believe is
Speaker 1: the Mask. He did Mask and Ace Fintura the same year.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine that career, the stamina,
Speaker 1: imagine the calls they were coming in. We got a
Speaker 1: know one for you, you you know, I just and the offers.
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine the offers anyway, Cameron introducing again
Speaker 1: Never Forgot, which was I couldn't believe it. That movie
Speaker 1: has made me so horny for her to go from
Speaker 1: the mask to like the next year, like my best
Speaker 1: friend's wedding, Like there aren't careers like that, or maybe
Speaker 1: there are the greatest film. No, there are. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Martin is in the room. The spirit is here. This
Speaker 1: this is good about haveing a good exorcism, and we
Speaker 1: will never return. You will never return. You know who's
Speaker 1: had a Cameron Diaz? Is I feel Margot Robbie, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Margot Robbie is the spiritually, the spiritual successor to Cameron
Speaker 1: Diaz sort of comes and splashes onto the scene and
Speaker 1: then is prestige but also big budget because you know
Speaker 1: there's another one of them suicide squads coming out. Was
Speaker 1: Cameron ever's prestige. Cameron was prestige and being John Malkovich,
Speaker 1: and she was prestige in the Thank You and how
Speaker 1: dare I had that not been at the front of
Speaker 1: my mind? And she was prestige for a hot second
Speaker 1: there and she I believe she got awards for her
Speaker 1: performance in Vanilla Sky or awards nominations, and she was
Speaker 1: also prestige enough to be in Scorsese's Gangs of New York.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't know I had the bibliography on
Speaker 1: Cameron d Has but apparently I do. Um. But my
Speaker 1: best friend's wedding, She's genius, my best kiss, genius and
Speaker 1: being John Malkovich one of the great films. And I
Speaker 1: mean I was thinking on my best friend's wedding today
Speaker 1: because Julia in it is stunning. The only woman that
Speaker 1: I ever knew. I didn't know what a woman was
Speaker 1: until Julia Roberts. That's a great way to put it,
Speaker 1: explain that I just when Julia Howfords came on the scene,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know the first time I
Speaker 1: saw her. I will say Aaron Brockovich was a foundational
Speaker 1: text for me. I was like very obsessed with it,
Speaker 1: and I used to at that point, I would put
Speaker 1: on high heels and I realized, like, oh, I can
Speaker 1: do homework at home and high heels. I can dress
Speaker 1: up like I'm a lawyer and then middle doing homework
Speaker 1: and it makes you better. I would dress up, so
Speaker 1: I would dress up to do homework, and I'd be like, God,
Speaker 1: dammit it, you know, I'd like walk around my heels,
Speaker 1: and it really helped, which became like a tool that
Speaker 1: I continue to use in my life of like, dress
Speaker 1: up for it, do what you can to make it easier.
Speaker 1: Pretend someone's watching you be the actor in the movie,
Speaker 1: Pretend that you're doing the thing, and then you'll oops,
Speaker 1: now I'm actually doing it. It's very helpful. Yes, I
Speaker 1: think maybe this is generationally specific, but that movie, the
Speaker 1: line readings on like a on like a like a
Speaker 1: musical milaw audical level, burned in burnn burn Five is
Speaker 1: my phone number. Yeah, and I'm guessing that zero is
Speaker 1: the number of times you're gonna call Oh my God.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. That's all You've got, lady, too wrong, fucking
Speaker 1: ugly shoes. Yes, And actual chemistry. Also, I'll say actual chemistry.
Speaker 1: When have we seen chemistry? Not even with this? I
Speaker 1: mean this, This is a fucking deep cut. And and okay,
Speaker 1: here cut us, I got fire. What have you been
Speaker 1: working so hard? Doesn't matter, doesn't make one fucking a
Speaker 1: bit of difference. I just got chills. She's driving, right,
Speaker 1: she's driving. No, no, no, no, that's he's fixing her pipes.
Speaker 1: And the baby and the baby says a word and
Speaker 1: the baby says it were The baby says the word
Speaker 1: is she's driving, Yes, and she said he says ball
Speaker 1: and she's driving and she gets her Oscar nomination. There
Speaker 1: also that the nomination. Also, we're also forgetting. We're also
Speaker 1: forgetting when the cockroach runs through the thing and she goes,
Speaker 1: who lives like this? She's unbelieving football, she's unbelievable and
Speaker 1: you know what, it's funny, it's suspenseful, are unbelievable. Her
Speaker 1: hair changed everything for me. She's a whole lot. That's
Speaker 1: why it's like, it's amazing. She's harnessing so much to
Speaker 1: give a performance that feels so real and it's just
Speaker 1: like that a real movie star, like such a movie star,
Speaker 1: but somehow a movie star who actually can then disappear
Speaker 1: and do a role. It's crazy. I mean, don't have
Speaker 1: disappears the right word, but but it was. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love her. I love her and my best friend's wedding.
Speaker 1: She's amazing, amazing and the character is so like evil
Speaker 1: yeah and does crazy thing No I would say calling
Speaker 1: to get your are like and you can see her
Speaker 1: way at one point. But my favorite thing is when
Speaker 1: a reshoot is obvious have you ever seen the proposal
Speaker 1: with Sandra Bullock, another absolute queen of the of the cinema.
Speaker 1: You would you would like, you know, it's really really stupid,
Speaker 1: but also it works because Sandra's just doing it. She's
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know how to describe it, but
Speaker 1: Sandra's She's just doing it. So there's a there's a
Speaker 1: moment at the end, but do you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about where she's like packing up her stuff. The
Speaker 1: whole point of the movie spoiler alert is that she
Speaker 1: is like this like dragon lady of a Boss. Ryan
Speaker 1: Reynolds is her assistant, and uh, she has to pretend
Speaker 1: that they're getting married, just staying in the country because
Speaker 1: she's getting deported to Canada. So she gets like skip
Speaker 1: to the end of the movie. She's getting deported. She's
Speaker 1: packing up her stuff and she's like, all right, I
Speaker 1: need these boxes taken here, I need this, I need that,
Speaker 1: And in runs Ryan Reynolds and she turns around and
Speaker 1: her hair is parted to the different side. It is
Speaker 1: such a fun continuity or it's so bad. I have
Speaker 1: no idea whether it was shot eight months later or what,
Speaker 1: but it is so funny. Everyone just go Google. All
Speaker 1: readers should google proposal ending scene and you'll see it's
Speaker 1: like she turns around, Ryan Reynolds is there. They cut
Speaker 1: the head and they cut back to her and she
Speaker 1: goes Andrew and her hair is completely it's not caught
Speaker 1: on catching that. Well, it's like, who's that village? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's that village? Who's who's script supervising video village readers?
Speaker 1: People watching things happen as I always thought it'd be
Speaker 1: funny to be like, we met it, we met it
Speaker 1: video village. It was really casual, and then before I
Speaker 1: knew it, there were sparks in video Village that night.
Speaker 1: Maybe sparks in video Village is titled of app I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of Who's that village? And immediately transport its transported?
Speaker 1: It is for us in a very deep way. All right,
Speaker 1: So listen. So we've sort of like stumbled into the
Speaker 1: area of like foundational texts, and so this is where
Speaker 1: we sort of feel like it's a good opportunity and
Speaker 1: we take opportunities here. Sorry to ask the question, Kimberland,
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture was
Speaker 1: for you? Do you understand the question? Yes? I love
Speaker 1: this question. I think it's a profound gift to give.
Speaker 1: Listen and the participant call us Santa Claus. It's a
Speaker 1: hard question. It's a hard question because you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like I have a two pronged answer. Use both problems,
Speaker 1: please thinking, okay, but both prongs engaged. Um. Very foundational
Speaker 1: for me was watching the Oscars with my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like my mom having a glass of champagne, being
Speaker 1: very the excitement, really caring. I think because I was
Speaker 1: growing I grew up without religion, like I grew up
Speaker 1: like just very like secular. Like. There was not never
Speaker 1: a mention of sports in my home. There was never
Speaker 1: I know, the child, so um I had to create
Speaker 1: there was. There were no bottles first my parents. So
Speaker 1: I'm blinded by the light. It's okay, it's it's right,
Speaker 1: blinded by a light right now, it's crepuscular. The second
Speaker 1: became very noir where she is and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden we're transported. Yeah. And so because of the absence
Speaker 1: of kind of religion or maybe ritual like just more
Speaker 1: like more, I was craving ritual. I was craving religion.
Speaker 1: I think I was craving something to like punctuate the
Speaker 1: year something to have meaning something that was like that
Speaker 1: my that I was like watching the television with my parents,
Speaker 1: like you know, something to to to idolize, and the
Speaker 1: oscars are right there and so and I just loved
Speaker 1: the glitz and the glam. Of course, It's also the
Speaker 1: first time that I felt like my favorite thing was
Speaker 1: to watch the actors watch their clips, their nominates, right,
Speaker 1: and the kind of split between Okay, so that's a character.
Speaker 1: This is the actual actor, but the but the knowledge
Speaker 1: of the actor is still acting because they're on camera
Speaker 1: and they're at this psychotic ball where they have to
Speaker 1: perform themselves. So it was kind of like just I
Speaker 1: just it was very interesting to me and exciting and
Speaker 1: also just fun to watch. I mean, you know, Hollywood
Speaker 1: and and all of that, but that was that did
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think just the speeches and kind
Speaker 1: of like knowing when I was watching certain speeches, like
Speaker 1: they're lying. You can see you can see the artifice
Speaker 1: from the beginning you feel. I mean, it sounds preposterous
Speaker 1: even then, but I just think it was I didn't
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew what was going on, but
Speaker 1: I just knew, like I'm interested in the social sort
Speaker 1: of display. It is like an interesting social experiment, right,
Speaker 1: It's like you get actors to compete with one another.
Speaker 1: Then you find out later they've campaigned for this, and
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. You bring up the watching of the
Speaker 1: clips because that is my favorite part, is the moments
Speaker 1: before the winner is announced and they're all watching a
Speaker 1: clip that I don't think they picked, and it feels
Speaker 1: like they can do one of I'm gonna say three things.
Speaker 1: Act embarrassed by it, Dyon Keenan, Dyan keanan right, or
Speaker 1: like anyone being like, oh, who, like, come on like
Speaker 1: that clip. I guess I'm here, or I guess that
Speaker 1: wasn't right right, Or they can solemnly watch it well
Speaker 1: and be like that was my work. Most people do that.
Speaker 1: Or and that's like a Nicole. That's like a cat.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of examples. Yeah, like Nicole. They
Speaker 1: looks up and then directly to the I'm always the partner.
Speaker 1: It's really about they bring and the the acknowledgement of love.
Speaker 1: The performance of the partner is always like that's more
Speaker 1: now and I felt so raw after making this film
Speaker 1: and etcetera. And then there's a third sort of way
Speaker 1: I think people can do it, which is to pretend
Speaker 1: it's not happening and sort of still be having a
Speaker 1: conversation with whoever is next to them if they don't know.
Speaker 1: The fourth thing is a bit like comedy bit about it,
Speaker 1: like cross your eyes like you look at it, or
Speaker 1: they cut back to you when you were in funny glasses,
Speaker 1: like you'll often see it reserved only for the Indie
Speaker 1: Spirit Awards. I mean that's like to make such exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: but it is interesting that's Golden Globes only. Yes, never
Speaker 1: the Oscars what they dare. Do you remember specific ceremony
Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, I know, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I really for me, it was from it was it
Speaker 1: was Titanic. That was the year that, like Key, I
Speaker 1: think a bunch of kids in our generation and I
Speaker 1: think like Titanic, Yeah, that was. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Titanic today because I was like Titanic was and that
Speaker 1: was the first time I feel like there was a
Speaker 1: movie like that was the culture was feeding you so aggressively.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the movie and I felt
Speaker 1: somehow kind of maybe a little more adult because I
Speaker 1: was able to enjoy Titanic and then it won Best Picture,
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, look at me and enjoying
Speaker 1: it exactly. Yeah, it's funny that, like it's true. But
Speaker 1: you know, they've even tried to, like the Oscars have
Speaker 1: even tried to become part of the monoculture of certain
Speaker 1: things in recent years by like making there be ten
Speaker 1: nominees or they'll nominate like Avatar, which is truly laugh
Speaker 1: out loud that that it would get so many Oscar
Speaker 1: nominations in watching it now, but it still feels like
Speaker 1: it's a good rewatch um because it's a laugh a minute,
Speaker 1: but it's funny. But because like they really do try
Speaker 1: to get these bigger movies nominated by doing more nominees
Speaker 1: for Best Picture, and it feels like no one's watching
Speaker 1: them anymore, Like did you hear how bad the ratings
Speaker 1: work for the Golden Globes, Like it's like, really, people
Speaker 1: don't care about these award shows anymore. In a way
Speaker 1: that's like obviously important, right, Like in a Stiroids, it's
Speaker 1: like obviously like yeah, they're they're like a horrifying element
Speaker 1: of the culture. And then now some of like college
Speaker 1: is also like well that's fake too, you know. It's
Speaker 1: like oh he gets to go to college. Who gets
Speaker 1: to participate in this system? Right? And similarly, like these
Speaker 1: award shows are being revealed for that. But and like
Speaker 1: kind of as they try to like do the right thing,
Speaker 1: they're like further revealed to me, like you don't understand
Speaker 1: or something like it's very but rewatching Oscar speeches. I
Speaker 1: I do that, Like sometimes it's very comforting to me.
Speaker 1: YouTube clips of watching old acceptance speeches and what stands
Speaker 1: out Julia Actually, my god, she does a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's when she wins for Aaron Brockovich. I think she's
Speaker 1: she's doing some excessive laugh acting. Yeah, I agree. And
Speaker 1: that's so hard. Yeah, a lot a lot it's at
Speaker 1: and it's hard because to be I mean, can you
Speaker 1: imagine listen, when I was a little girl, Okay, I
Speaker 1: thought I'm going to be a big star daddy, right,
Speaker 1: and then you grow up and you go I'm not,
Speaker 1: and thank God, or like it's like I'm never I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna have to be Julia, Like I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: have to be here like blessed be the character actress,
Speaker 1: Like I'm never gonna have to be To be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be I won't ever have to be
Speaker 1: in the gown and everyone going, isn't she the most beautiful?
Speaker 1: And here's your award and everyone's looking at you. It's
Speaker 1: like that. Then that produces the fake laughter because then
Speaker 1: you have to be humbled, which is the Anne Hathaway
Speaker 1: kind of that it came true and then we all
Speaker 1: jumped on her throat for it in a way that
Speaker 1: it's like this, of course, but also we have to
Speaker 1: cut her some slack, like that's performance hell, receiving an
Speaker 1: award like that and then having to act like you
Speaker 1: are being and also just the embarrassment of being overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by an award. Right, It's like there's so much happening
Speaker 1: at once, so much. It's a lot, and it is
Speaker 1: a thank god I don't have to be a Julia
Speaker 1: Roberts thing. Right, It's like, I don't know what that
Speaker 1: walking personal hell is. It's I mean, well, you can't win.
Speaker 1: Julie is a friend and yeah, no, no, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: I would kill for her friendship. I would kill for
Speaker 1: he even even if she is like clean, please, I love.
Speaker 1: I would sign up for the abuse. Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like you can't really win either, because yeah, nicest lady
Speaker 1: on the street, um down similar in two weeks apart,
Speaker 1: they had a rule continue I've done the research, continuing
Speaker 1: Danny motor Um. Yeah, it's like if you're too casual,
Speaker 1: like if you're SuDS, like a few weeks ago, like
Speaker 1: at the Goal Glows when he was like obviously baked
Speaker 1: and won an award he didn't expect. Everyone was like,
Speaker 1: well fuck him, because you know what, women have to
Speaker 1: get dressed up, and it's like if you're being like
Speaker 1: my dream came true tonight, everyone's like, well suck her,
Speaker 1: because it's like you you're it's either side of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: No one has no one can go up there and
Speaker 1: kill it unless you're like Jeff Bridget truly like where
Speaker 1: it's just like some older man that's like really deserving.
Speaker 1: It says someone, Yeah, but if if if, but if
Speaker 1: you're a woman, if you're if you're winning Best Actress
Speaker 1: right now, the person who has done the best datic
Speaker 1: quote unquote I think has been like a Bree Larson
Speaker 1: going up taken award being like, well this is so lovely,
Speaker 1: thank you all so much, and just yea beautiful but
Speaker 1: to even have to perform that she probably had to
Speaker 1: like process that be like I gotta be fully exquisite acting. Ye, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's hell because I remember the Life is Beautiful to say,
Speaker 1: what's his name? Life is beautiful was a real problem
Speaker 1: in my house, Like my dad was like, you could
Speaker 1: never have made the Holocaust fucking play, like there was
Speaker 1: like a then I didn't. I still haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: So then I remember like just being a child and
Speaker 1: being like that movie is bad. And then and then
Speaker 1: his big standing on the chairs going crazy and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's full of ship, right, and like no,
Speaker 1: but did anyone ever hear from him? Again? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because he was like now I get to
Speaker 1: yeah he did it. And that also watching the Oscars now,
Speaker 1: watching those montages of the nominees, it does give you
Speaker 1: this comfort of like a right. It's also like fleeting
Speaker 1: or ephemeral, like even you can be nominated for Best
Speaker 1: Actress for an Academy Award like ostensibly the peak right
Speaker 1: all you could ever and then you're watching it going hey,
Speaker 1: who's that? Like who are people? The movie you've never
Speaker 1: heard of? And then it's it's like, you know, there
Speaker 1: is something comforting about about watching Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: just it's I don't know. I feel like as the
Speaker 1: media gets more and more sensitive every year, it all
Speaker 1: just falls away, Like I don't know who Elisha vik
Speaker 1: Candor is. I can't pretend that I ever did. I
Speaker 1: don't think she's the only person who has top line,
Speaker 1: huge box office films and won an oscar that I
Speaker 1: don't think I recognize on the street. And this was recent.
Speaker 1: I feel like, though, the only way to really nail
Speaker 1: it is if you just don't see it coming, like
Speaker 1: when Marianne cotre one like and she was just coman
Speaker 1: or like right when you're just so like sharked and friends,
Speaker 1: like when you're like, thank you life, thank you love.
Speaker 1: It's just like a perfect god. Can you imagine if
Speaker 1: someone who just no, we need that for for drag,
Speaker 1: for life, for food. I'm so glad you say that
Speaker 1: because it is still possible. Right, And then this happened
Speaker 1: to like no, I won't give us a little magic,
Speaker 1: like yes, there there there should be some magic here. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I was I was growing earlier because I was thinking
Speaker 1: one of my most top offenders, Eddie redmay Oh, I
Speaker 1: can't toss him out with the terrible, terrible, and for
Speaker 1: what I I returned to it to to mutilate, to
Speaker 1: self mutilate, you know, just and the stumbling like I
Speaker 1: am very very you know, it's he's just I mean again,
Speaker 1: I hate it, but he's just too um, too over
Speaker 1: joyed by himself. But it's tweet, it's it's it's you
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's like, there's nothing funnier to
Speaker 1: me than people that take themselves that seriously and then
Speaker 1: like for that to not even be funny because it's
Speaker 1: so continuing to be so serious. I'm just like, it's
Speaker 1: like when Casey Affleck won all those awards, it's like,
Speaker 1: not only was it like we're awarding like a ray
Speaker 1: this here, it's also like he couldn't be more boring.
Speaker 1: And I get that his acting performance was good, but
Speaker 1: we're like like why why why I respect the audience,
Speaker 1: respect my mother and myself watching with Champagne, like give
Speaker 1: us something. That's why it's important to have a dull
Speaker 1: sim That's why that's important. Yeah, that's why it was
Speaker 1: the best moment of my life and the number one
Speaker 1: moment in culture history. That's true. Uh, I just just
Speaker 1: to put it. I guess we can we can keep
Speaker 1: discussing this, but I do think that we all agree
Speaker 1: that the only way to avoid performing authenticity or the
Speaker 1: self or whatever is to actually be genuinely surprised along
Speaker 1: with everyone else, along with the audience. And what a
Speaker 1: magical for that to actually happen. Happens. There's not the
Speaker 1: hardest thing to act is being surprised and laughing, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love that you guys talked about this on the
Speaker 1: On the podcast, I was like, you guys were talking
Speaker 1: about what was it? It was laughing, but there was
Speaker 1: also like was it like, uh, something else too? But
Speaker 1: laughing is like, oh, I know, I think what it
Speaker 1: was was. I was saying that my greatest fear is
Speaker 1: to have to is acting being cast as like a
Speaker 1: funny persons actually like impossible, delivering a zinger or some
Speaker 1: like you could be like, look at this funny charming
Speaker 1: and that's it's interesting enough. It's what I have to return.
Speaker 1: I've been meaning all year to return to sexon City,
Speaker 1: like the beginning, just watch it all again. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of like the crisis of Carry, the crisis of Carry,
Speaker 1: because Carrie needed to be funny and we needed to
Speaker 1: she was there with the Zingers. We needed to and
Speaker 1: it was an impossible it's an impossible space to occupy.
Speaker 1: Did samanthis Si? Did Kim Cattrall succeed though? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's enough of a character the protagonists carry, we are
Speaker 1: supposed to be carry, and so Samantha was able to
Speaker 1: deliver Zinger after Zinger and it's hilarious. She didn't have
Speaker 1: to be the surrogate for the audience. No is crazy.
Speaker 1: Samantha is giving you her opinions. Like whenever Samantha is
Speaker 1: saying something funny, she's she's usually saying because because she
Speaker 1: feels it, whereas Carrie is often commenting on what the
Speaker 1: other women are doing and saying so she's literally making
Speaker 1: jokes like her action often is making a joke about things,
Speaker 1: which is I think a testament tes JP that she
Speaker 1: was able to carry it through. Yes, it would have
Speaker 1: been so annoying on someone that wasn't so likable. Also,
Speaker 1: great awards speeches from that girl, Oh for sure, for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think I have the staminate to watch it
Speaker 1: from beginning to end, but I did read I mean
Speaker 1: carry o'donald wrote this piece. I think it was in
Speaker 1: the cut about how the last season is actually genuinely
Speaker 1: still great and like, oh, I have to watch and
Speaker 1: I think I do that from six to six b Split,
Speaker 1: Sex and City was huge in my home, and that
Speaker 1: was another thing. My mother loved it and my dad
Speaker 1: really loved it. And remember that was something where I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, interesting, Like my dad was like a
Speaker 1: phenomenal to hear it, because for me, it was one
Speaker 1: of those things that I had to I obviously like
Speaker 1: closet and a gay child that couldn't be like, we're
Speaker 1: watching this like and so my parents would leave and
Speaker 1: whenever they were gone for the day, I'd watch as
Speaker 1: many on HBO on demand as I could and even
Speaker 1: like and this was like and then I remember the
Speaker 1: last season. And you know what's so great about the
Speaker 1: last episode of the last season, which is almost like
Speaker 1: why I wish they wouldn't even do any of these movies,
Speaker 1: is she has a monologue in that last episode which
Speaker 1: is so good when she's like, let me be clear
Speaker 1: about who I am to the Russian and she's like,
Speaker 1: I am someone who is looking for love, and it's
Speaker 1: like she arrived thereat she realized what she wanted. Indescribable
Speaker 1: can control it? Whatever it is in convening menient cats
Speaker 1: live without each other love. She's all on the chest,
Speaker 1: she's always in this beautiful apart, beautiful in Paris, in Paris.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, really excited, shouldn't have come here? And then
Speaker 1: she leaves and she never her hands never leave her chest,
Speaker 1: so right, and then we're laughing and big No, it's
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's huge, deeply formative, deeply formative. What is them?
Speaker 1: Was there a second prong that we haven't touched? Lost
Speaker 1: the problem? No? No, no, oh no no, it was
Speaker 1: again of course like rosy lead back to my mother,
Speaker 1: who's like a very dramatic person. But like I think, also,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this counts. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this counts, but my like, it's kind of connected to
Speaker 1: what I was saying, but like this performance of self.
Speaker 1: But like dinner parties, that was really also something where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I get this, like being alive stuff,
Speaker 1: like you're alive. Do you have people over? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: make you serve food, you wear something, you buy flowers,
Speaker 1: you make the lighting nice, you decide, like you create
Speaker 1: an experience for other people. That was very like immediately
Speaker 1: I was like, I like that I was like, that's important.
Speaker 1: And I think also seeing my mom be like it
Speaker 1: was it's a creative act, the generous, a generous act
Speaker 1: to have people over and feed them or and so
Speaker 1: that was and also seeing my mom like the panic,
Speaker 1: like the pre hosting and like the you know, the
Speaker 1: like not those chairs, you know, and all of that
Speaker 1: and kind of and like the anxiety of that and
Speaker 1: the preparation for the guests to come, and the kind
Speaker 1: of like that and my mom, Now, this is so
Speaker 1: funny to My parents would throw a holiday party every
Speaker 1: year and my mom would spend like six months playing
Speaker 1: it or whatever. It was a huge deal. It was
Speaker 1: a great party. She's so get in the house ready,
Speaker 1: all the thing, and then the guests to start to arrive.
Speaker 1: My mother nowhere to be seen. My mother would be
Speaker 1: in the bedroom. My mom would be getting ready, and
Speaker 1: it was this thing of like her and it was
Speaker 1: where's Helen. It was like the guest It was always
Speaker 1: a chorus of where is Helen? Where's Helen? And my
Speaker 1: mom would be like held up in the bathroom with
Speaker 1: a glass of champagne, like putting on some lipstick and
Speaker 1: being like what am I wait up? You know, and
Speaker 1: even though I'm kind of like, you knew what you
Speaker 1: were going to wear to this, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was a little bit of like now I think people
Speaker 1: kind of having me come out, come out, and I
Speaker 1: really see myself in her. This I'm painting as a
Speaker 1: much more psychotic portrait of what it actually was like
Speaker 1: in the lived experience. But I see that now and
Speaker 1: also happen. This is a live revelation. Folks haven't talked
Speaker 1: about this ever before in therapy, never before, but like,
Speaker 1: but that was like seeing her kind of shift and
Speaker 1: seeing that, like the anxiety of performance, which you know
Speaker 1: you feel when you start on a set. You feel
Speaker 1: that when you start to a dinner party, right, and
Speaker 1: the vulnerability of hosting because set the stage and everything
Speaker 1: has happened and everything is right. But once she steps
Speaker 1: out into it, then she has to become part of it,
Speaker 1: and then the installation is truly complete. So it's really
Speaker 1: you that thing of like it doesn't exist until she's
Speaker 1: actually out there and she and when you've built something
Speaker 1: up so much, it's tough to say, let's let's have
Speaker 1: the curtain go up. You know what I mean is
Speaker 1: that thing and to insist in your own creation. It's
Speaker 1: like awkward to be like, oh, yeah, no, I planned
Speaker 1: this particulously and like, you know, like there's something that
Speaker 1: that like showing care, showing derris say it's a hot word, labor,
Speaker 1: you know, showing it like showing like showing that is yeah.
Speaker 1: And then and they're just like telling stories like that's
Speaker 1: you know, being funny, being like captivating. And again, I
Speaker 1: was an only child, and I was really it was
Speaker 1: really important to me to make adults laugh or be
Speaker 1: chicken seriously because you would be yes because I were present.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there was no there was no kids table
Speaker 1: or anything no, because my parents friends like truly did
Speaker 1: not have kids. And so I was really with a
Speaker 1: lot of adults and I yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a kid, like I want to
Speaker 1: you know, make someone laugh and I and so that
Speaker 1: was that was a big that was big for me.
Speaker 1: And then of course you know strictly ballroom and you
Speaker 1: know that stuff too. Did you did you find that?
Speaker 1: So so in order to make them laugh, you were
Speaker 1: never performing kid. You were performing as if as if
Speaker 1: you were yes or something. I don't even really know
Speaker 1: what I was doing, but I recognize now that I
Speaker 1: think they probably also were laughing because I was trying
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what I mean, like at
Speaker 1: the time, and I can't recall like, of course, when
Speaker 1: I was really little, I was kind of like clowning
Speaker 1: or something. Remember, like I did like some magic tricks
Speaker 1: once or like something like that. But um or like
Speaker 1: famous Sam Mom says. You know, I would go around
Speaker 1: and ask, you know, what kind of wine do you want?
Speaker 1: Red or right? But you know, but I made a
Speaker 1: mistake and I said red or blue. I was just cute.
Speaker 1: But I was very young at that point. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just remember the extreme satisfaction of
Speaker 1: like of like making them laugh, like actually making them up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bring up something. I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, there was like your whole family died.
Speaker 1: I I hesitated to even bring this up because it
Speaker 1: feels it feels so pilot the pilot about I was
Speaker 1: going to say, of course, so I'll say I'll give
Speaker 1: you a perfect Okay, we're cutting in here, um, which
Speaker 1: we which we love. By the way, you guys sent
Speaker 1: it to us and we watched it together, and we
Speaker 1: watched it together and we showed it to our friends,
Speaker 1: like and then we love different. We were just like
Speaker 1: this is a perfect there's a perfect pilot. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: So yes, I've always been obsessed with hosting and John early,
Speaker 1: and I think we sort of, you know, fell in
Speaker 1: love with each other because of like the shared sensibility
Speaker 1: of like understanding like that and kind of having always
Speaker 1: been interested in that, and then that like the crisis
Speaker 1: of personality, like the crisis of like presenting yourself. And
Speaker 1: so we made a pilot that did not air, did
Speaker 1: not air. It's it's truly an honor um to hear that.
Speaker 1: But and the pilot that we made was, um the
Speaker 1: shows about believe, are you ready to best friends? But
Speaker 1: but the pilot was all set around a dinner party
Speaker 1: and these two people who are kind of married but
Speaker 1: they're not, but they um act as they're married essentially,
Speaker 1: and it's them throwing this dinner party and kind of
Speaker 1: all the steaks and kind of the kind of crumbling
Speaker 1: around it. And I loved the ending though, when it
Speaker 1: was sort of revealed that they had just met, Like
Speaker 1: I thought that there was something so interesting there and
Speaker 1: like people that can become codependent very quickly, Like I
Speaker 1: love that about it, and I'm always trying to I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to find a way to put to really
Speaker 1: get because codependency, like it's only I haven't seen it
Speaker 1: really explored in like a way that I'm like, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yes yet. But then it was really getting there, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was so interesting like that everyone was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't really know each other. It's been like it's
Speaker 1: been like three or four months. And I just thought
Speaker 1: that was so that's just like a funny smart because
Speaker 1: also that's like true to John. People like when we
Speaker 1: started being friends were like, oh, did you guys go
Speaker 1: to like they we went to acting school together. Of course,
Speaker 1: was rejected from acting school. I repeat, rejected girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna go in through through
Speaker 1: the under ground system and so I but everyone assumed
Speaker 1: that John and I had gone to college together and
Speaker 1: we're long friends, and then we were always kind of
Speaker 1: en humiliated we met last year, you know, and so
Speaker 1: we because we also when we met, it was that
Speaker 1: psychotic thing of like kind of having like a shared
Speaker 1: sensibility or like we're like fully falling in love, like
Speaker 1: it was falling in love, and we thought it looks
Speaker 1: like it will be good on that. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know my and I can say that now, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: that thank you for referencing the pilot. That was hollywoods
Speaker 1: Hollywood's tough. You know. They tell you a we're going
Speaker 1: to give you. I call myself that that was not
Speaker 1: it was. Let's get the Gemini counter up here. But no,
Speaker 1: you know, I say this for the listener. If you
Speaker 1: think about moving to Hollywood, just be careful. Tells you
Speaker 1: the moon. It's sweetheart. They say you're going to be
Speaker 1: available the next big thing. I'll pick up your pilot.
Speaker 1: I know, next next next big thing. That's Sandy Kenyon.
Speaker 1: That man's doing. I want to quote to you because
Speaker 1: it's just it's just reverberated for years at this point,
Speaker 1: but the wonderful scene of like the dinner party actually
Speaker 1: happening and the conversation being wild, but at one point
Speaker 1: your character goes, I forget what leads with the lead
Speaker 1: up into into this line is but it's like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like like like in linguistics, you don't have
Speaker 1: the word, you don't have the concept. You know. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's such a genius, just like way to
Speaker 1: like I don't know, um, just put a cap on
Speaker 1: like this wild run of like dialogue from this person
Speaker 1: and then and then and then but then that that
Speaker 1: did like sort of light up something. I mean where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, that that is like what
Speaker 1: linguistics is. And oh I've truly it's so nice to
Speaker 1: hear you talk about it, because I I forget and
Speaker 1: you know, you know, our hearts break and we have
Speaker 1: to pick up the pieces, you know, we get her
Speaker 1: and then for lucky we get lucky again. Yeah, oh yes,
Speaker 1: yeah we will. I mean yeah, no, of course, and
Speaker 1: you know the joy of creation. Cut the mic cut
Speaker 1: the mic got lost it no, but it's um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're yeah, we're trying to make something else. That of
Speaker 1: course also was appended due to covid um. But you know,
Speaker 1: we keep going. We keep going in this industry and
Speaker 1: in this world, and you'll always have each other. And
Speaker 1: also and the thing about it is like when you're
Speaker 1: trying to do this, you realize that never ends. Like
Speaker 1: the pitch process. It's like so like I'm pitching something
Speaker 1: right now, and I swear to God, I wake up,
Speaker 1: I wake up. The first thing I do want to
Speaker 1: open my eyes to sight. No, no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it the eternal. It's just because you
Speaker 1: feel like, um, like I still I feel like they
Speaker 1: often like go fine and then whatever you move on,
Speaker 1: but like I never know, Like like you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna have to pitch something like what am
Speaker 1: I in marketing? It's like no, no, no. That happens
Speaker 1: literally all the time in the in the biz. And
Speaker 1: it's you never really know because you can't see yourself
Speaker 1: like you're not you're not hearing yourself doing it. It's
Speaker 1: just it's such a heady you earlier, I was so grateful.
Speaker 1: You also referenced five five, which thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: And actually I should say here this is a scoop.
Speaker 1: This has not been announced yet um because it's behind
Speaker 1: it's been behind a paywall, which is in literal and
Speaker 1: possible amount of money to play, be easier to pay
Speaker 1: twenty nights and exactly where you're like, so it's basically free,
Speaker 1: but it's not and I have to enter in something
Speaker 1: like the paywall will soon be lifted to when anyone
Speaker 1: can watch it. It's going to be free, so hopefully
Speaker 1: then some people will we'll be able to enjoy. But
Speaker 1: I was gonna say in that Christ and Johnston and
Speaker 1: like it was in we were lucky to have her
Speaker 1: in an episode of five five and which John and
Speaker 1: I were playing actors and she's an acting teacher and
Speaker 1: she was John's acting teacher in real life. Yes, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I think maybe it was Atlantic that lives
Speaker 1: in the file cabinets in my brain. That's one of
Speaker 1: the I like fell in love with John, Like was
Speaker 1: like him telling me like incredible stories, like just doing
Speaker 1: her and like saying and she we shot that it
Speaker 1: was like a very crazy shoot. We had like almost
Speaker 1: no money and it was very chaotic, and she just
Speaker 1: like we didn't have that much time, and she just
Speaker 1: delivered the most beautiful monologues about like the nature of acting,
Speaker 1: and it was like hell that the whole thing couldn't
Speaker 1: be an hour, like it was just and I remember,
Speaker 1: I don't remember if this this didn't I don't think
Speaker 1: ever make it into the final cut. But she talks about,
Speaker 1: you know, how she was a huge star, she was
Speaker 1: on Third Rock from the Sun and she was you know,
Speaker 1: and then she talks about, you know, wanting to kill herself,
Speaker 1: like she was deeply depressed and kind of how hard
Speaker 1: it was. But then she talks about the biz and
Speaker 1: she's like, there's no joy in this industry. There's only
Speaker 1: a relief, which I was like, oh, that's so true.
Speaker 1: And you're like chasing chase and you're like okay, and
Speaker 1: then you're just kind of and and hearing her talking
Speaker 1: just like there's only you're just waiting to be relieved. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's so we have to pull joy from other things
Speaker 1: like friends and family, coming in a living right, getting
Speaker 1: the melon right if you're lucky, setting it back with grace,
Speaker 1: and and then buying around for the whole the whole restaurant.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. I longed for that, Yeah, to
Speaker 1: be able to walk it. You know what, Sometimes I
Speaker 1: think like a really sort of it's pretty old school
Speaker 1: and even a little sleazy, but like if anyone ever
Speaker 1: did it to me, I would not be mad. Someone
Speaker 1: sending over a drink, Oh my god, someone sending over
Speaker 1: this from the gentleman in the white suit. Has this
Speaker 1: happened to either of you ever. One of the coolest
Speaker 1: things I've ever done is when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: I was at a diner that I saw that I
Speaker 1: always go to my friends and I and there was
Speaker 1: like a hot guy there, and I sent him a
Speaker 1: single Friday across and then it was like washing like
Speaker 1: this over and like point at me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean like topping him from across the room. And
Speaker 1: then of course, like not a word was exchanged. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a joke for my friends, but to have
Speaker 1: that bravery, I think about that now, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I did that. That's that's phenomenal. No, I've
Speaker 1: never been sent a drink from across the room. Tragically,
Speaker 1: I sent what a friend didn't know I was in
Speaker 1: the restaurant and I sent over just like a rude beer,
Speaker 1: just just as a funny joke, and the waitress spilled
Speaker 1: it on the table. She was like, this is from
Speaker 1: oh my god. I'm so oh my god. They didn't
Speaker 1: know it was coming be it was like what it was.
Speaker 1: It was like that thing. It was like an Applebee's, truly,
Speaker 1: and it was such a chaotic moment. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if she ever got out like it's from that
Speaker 1: kid over there, like it's just just a spill of
Speaker 1: a random drink that was riving at the table. She
Speaker 1: sort of got through the sentence. But that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's here's another thing with drinks. They get spilled too often.
Speaker 1: Class can rarely contain no, no, no, I think it's time.
Speaker 1: It might be time. So yeah, but this is when
Speaker 1: it really gets started, to be honest. So this is
Speaker 1: this is where it starts a kick in. This is
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, And this will be your
Speaker 1: first what that's literally not right? I feel okay, but
Speaker 1: but this is listen, we we have our whole. It's
Speaker 1: so true and not would that the anesthesia actually goes okay?
Speaker 1: And can I say one before we get into this,
Speaker 1: can I say one more thing? You know, Kate, as
Speaker 1: you know, this morning we had an earthquake, So oh
Speaker 1: my god, are you both okay? Didn't did you feel it?
Speaker 1: This morning? I woke up. I woke up completely nude,
Speaker 1: as I often sleep, and I was like, do I
Speaker 1: have to go get on a big shirt in case
Speaker 1: I have to run into the street. But then I
Speaker 1: was like, you don't run into you don't run into
Speaker 1: the street. But it lasted long enough that the shaking
Speaker 1: was continuous where I was like, do I it was
Speaker 1: like an eleven second thing. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like an eleven second thing. And eventually my famously always
Speaker 1: missed the earthquakes like they happened, and like, I'm like, oh, really,
Speaker 1: like all my friends will be on a group text
Speaker 1: like you feel that one whoa scary hated that, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I didn't feel it this time.
Speaker 1: Fully woke up because I felt it. It was like
Speaker 1: eleven seconds of it was like a four point oh um,
Speaker 1: and uh, I thought to myself. Yeah, I thought to myself, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen when I'm under anesthesia. That's
Speaker 1: when we're going to get the earthquake. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be a flopping anesthetic corpse while everyone else that
Speaker 1: the hospitals are on wheels, Matt, they're on isn't rollers?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a real thing? Yes, they're on rollers,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be literally, there's no one you'd rather
Speaker 1: be than a hospital during an earthquake, but particularly under anesthesia,
Speaker 1: because then you won't know what's happening, and then you
Speaker 1: wake up and they go, you're never gonna believe it's sweetheart.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna be fine. You're gonna You're gonna
Speaker 1: be totally fine. I feel it in my bones, and
Speaker 1: and it's always scary, you know, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: like why kids don't want to go to sleep because
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a suspecter of death. But you're
Speaker 1: not going to die. I feel so confident I'm not
Speaker 1: going to and you're gonna have reliefs then you won't
Speaker 1: have to have this. You know, it's ultimate. And I mean,
Speaker 1: like literally, it is. This thing in my nose is
Speaker 1: the bane of my existence, and it must go. So
Speaker 1: it's finally happens. Lived many of these years with me,
Speaker 1: and I constantly I'm talking about it, and so it
Speaker 1: needs to go. But I did just like I had
Speaker 1: to be honest about it on the pod because what
Speaker 1: if I don't come back next week and they say
Speaker 1: it's a rhinal plastic gone wrong. I refuse to have
Speaker 1: that be the narrative. I had to be the one
Speaker 1: to say it, Okay, you're ahead of ahead of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's the kid. It's the kid logic of of
Speaker 1: just putting out like the worst case scenarios that as
Speaker 1: as its own proofing insurance policy if it not happening exactly,
Speaker 1: it's me. It's I'm earthquake proofing this situation. I read
Speaker 1: all about this morning because I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm in that doomsday Google sort of mindset. So I
Speaker 1: did sort of google for the very first time the
Speaker 1: Big One, and I sort of found out all about
Speaker 1: what will happen when we get the Big One. I
Speaker 1: started listening to the Big One podcast. I got twenty
Speaker 1: minutes and I was like, this is so upsetting and disturbing.
Speaker 1: I can't live my life with this information. I can't. Also,
Speaker 1: i will die with my neighbors. Like I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fighter in that way, Like I'm not. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, have water, do the thing, you know, know
Speaker 1: how to shut off the I'll do the bare minimum,
Speaker 1: But you am I. We can't devote our lives to
Speaker 1: to to protecting ourselves against something like that. Really, I
Speaker 1: mean truly, I become full God at that point. I'm
Speaker 1: just like take me like it's like if if that's
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, because I'll just I'll just a
Speaker 1: briefly paraphrase something that happened in the podcast. It was
Speaker 1: so horrifying. Was there's a woman in it who's obsessed
Speaker 1: with the Big One or some psychotic earthquake. She was
Speaker 1: in one something. She's like, it was a huge thing
Speaker 1: in her life, maybe she lost someone in an earthquake,
Speaker 1: something crazy. And then one day she's in and she
Speaker 1: was actually, I'm aborting this because I truly forgot it.
Speaker 1: It's like, the point is she found herself amidst a
Speaker 1: huge earth and it was like, so it's like, you
Speaker 1: can live your life to find by fear and stuff,
Speaker 1: and then it just happened to you exactly, we can't
Speaker 1: and but and then also my I know somebody who
Speaker 1: works for FEMA, not to Brad and um, but they
Speaker 1: told me that they worked in San Francisco or the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, and that like, for example, one of the
Speaker 1: numbers is they're like when the big one hits, if
Speaker 1: when it hits, there will be between twenty tho and
Speaker 1: forty thou people in elevators trapped. So that's a number
Speaker 1: that they know, Like the people that are elevators alone
Speaker 1: are going to be a crisis that we can't get to.
Speaker 1: So it's like we're hanging on you know what's crazy
Speaker 1: about you know what's crazy about a phone? It will happen. Yes,
Speaker 1: here's my feeling. Hundred years will be gone the next
Speaker 1: It's like it's like years again. This is part of
Speaker 1: my research today too. It's like push it onto them
Speaker 1: like a hundred years from now. It's just sp real um,
Speaker 1: but it's it's true, like it's really gonna be that
Speaker 1: I saw, like this is how deep it went, Like
Speaker 1: I saw like a visio. It's like a visual like
Speaker 1: um sort of simulation of what it would looks like.
Speaker 1: And it was truly like when a kid is like
Speaker 1: at a bar mitzpidanza, like where that was that? Whatever
Speaker 1: this is? That was the earth, that's the plates. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's really bad, but we just have to get
Speaker 1: a little water. You know, how to turn off your
Speaker 1: you're don't run because they said if you run during say,
Speaker 1: you're going to break your legs and ship or something
Speaker 1: flies off the thing and hits you in the head.
Speaker 1: I remember because I was in bed and I remember
Speaker 1: reading that what they say, if you're in bed to
Speaker 1: do is to roll into your stomach, so that takes
Speaker 1: two minutes and then roll onto your stomach and then
Speaker 1: you protect the back of your neck. So in that moment,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, if the shaking continues or if
Speaker 1: it gets greater. I'm just gonna, you know, and cry
Speaker 1: into the pillow and yeah, it's fine. What's crazy, though,
Speaker 1: is that it is regional, like it didn't have to
Speaker 1: be us if we didn't live in this fucking city.
Speaker 1: It's so sci fi you just have to go, oh God,
Speaker 1: and and but then is it even worth pointing out
Speaker 1: that the dark reason why you guys are in that
Speaker 1: city is for this industry? Toph who's gonna say no
Speaker 1: to me anyway? Why am I risking at all? All? No?
Speaker 1: I think it's you just have to, you know, we
Speaker 1: we have to make our shows, and it's worth it
Speaker 1: for the place in the weather, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just like I need try humid, etcetera. Um, anyway,
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so, honey. And truly I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Earthquakes, No, you're it's it's just
Speaker 1: not over, okay. No, No, I got excited. I was
Speaker 1: like I almost forgot hello when you said that this
Speaker 1: is not I mean, we've reached the summit. This summits
Speaker 1: really the climax, the emotional climax, spiritual climax. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, which is of course a minute
Speaker 1: long sort of um feverish rant really about something in
Speaker 1: culture that is not it and we don't like and
Speaker 1: we have to we feel compelled to speak about even
Speaker 1: and there's really been so much to talk about bowen.
Speaker 1: But um, I do think I have what a good
Speaker 1: topical one for me? Anyway? Oh my god, thank god
Speaker 1: yours is topical, because mine is certainly like topical for me.
Speaker 1: But you know, well's still topical. Okay, this is um
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers is I don't think so. I have in
Speaker 1: the clock and it's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Anesthesia,
Speaker 1: diet restrictions. Let me tell you what. You can't eat fish?
Speaker 1: I'm fucked my favorite food fish, hon. I so, my
Speaker 1: mother's coming in for the surgery. I make a great
Speaker 1: um two person reservation for us at Yama Shiro, this
Speaker 1: incredible sort of you know, Japanese restaurant right by my house.
Speaker 1: I look at the menu, all sea food. Now I
Speaker 1: have to cancel. I don't think so, honey. Also, you
Speaker 1: can't eat potatoes, what the fuck? You can't eat vegetables?
Speaker 1: What the hell? Nothing? Nothing fiber. Maybe I'm over doing
Speaker 1: this and just kind of going for it. But also
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, surgery in general. You're gonna
Speaker 1: cut into me with that, you honestly. Also, I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey, anesthesia. This is people's whole job. Let
Speaker 1: me say something. It sounds like something you can get
Speaker 1: pretty bored out doing and make a mistake because you're
Speaker 1: sitting there, just like toddling levers. You don't know me,
Speaker 1: You don't know my body. I don't think so honey
Speaker 1: that I can't eat or d a goddamn cocktail aforehand, honey,
Speaker 1: I can't smoke reefer. I don't think so honey. This
Speaker 1: is I didn't even really get to the meat and
Speaker 1: potatoes shocked. I had no idea. Oh, when you see
Speaker 1: the list of things you avoid a diet rich and seafood,
Speaker 1: Avoid fibrous foods, avoid a document sent to me by
Speaker 1: doctor by my doctor's office. Alright, alright, alright, and let
Speaker 1: me tell you something I could have done. I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey, Captain, I mean falcon I win our soldier,
Speaker 1: because nothing's happening on that and I could have done
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, um Final Fours because on
Speaker 1: reality shows, I don't like a final four. I think
Speaker 1: we need to do a final to that's that's from
Speaker 1: Justin to Justin and Kelly. That's what we need. But
Speaker 1: I feel like this is just taken over my life
Speaker 1: in such a way where I have to say and
Speaker 1: speak out about the anesthesia diet restrictions. I mean, because
Speaker 1: get this, if you eat within eight hours of doing anesthesia,
Speaker 1: that food is going in your lung starling deer. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be breathing in your food like it's always all.
Speaker 1: This is something that I think you up on poog.
Speaker 1: Why food isn't in our lungs more? I don't understand.
Speaker 1: And when you're choking on something, when you when you
Speaker 1: inhale and you went down the wrong pipe, well what pipe?
Speaker 1: And where to go? Oh it's down the wrong pipe.
Speaker 1: It's really crazy straight to the heart. Well, if you
Speaker 1: ever tell you something, if you want to be breathing
Speaker 1: in some food going to anesthesia, oh god, that's that's
Speaker 1: absolutely nightmarish. But you're gonna be completely fine. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have some you can't have vegetables. It was like avoid
Speaker 1: fibrous food you eat. I literally was like what my
Speaker 1: mom was like, Well, I don't want you eating get
Speaker 1: anything fried. I'm like, girlfriend, the list is so long.
Speaker 1: It's like what I guess I'm gonna eat like um,
Speaker 1: like starches, like carbs, but pasta and here's and here
Speaker 1: we are in l A. They tell you to avoid
Speaker 1: carbs and then you have l A. I'm also you
Speaker 1: know what else I never said about, like the three
Speaker 1: week recovery period where I'm just gonna be sitting in
Speaker 1: my apartment like just like just like the stagnancy. Anyway, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the best time this could possibly be happening, right,
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Yeah, it's it's true.
Speaker 1: And and you finish. Yeah, you're you're between things. You're
Speaker 1: gonna watch My mother will be here. We already had
Speaker 1: a fight. She was like wi she called and she
Speaker 1: was like, I'm coming and I'm staying on a cot
Speaker 1: in your living room. I was like, first of all,
Speaker 1: the word caught like air I must and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's not big enough. I was like, for eleven days, mother,
Speaker 1: I don't know the question I sent a snuggle. I
Speaker 1: sense some people are gonna be snuggling, so I hope
Speaker 1: can we end the stigma around snuggling with mom? Oh?
Speaker 1: I literally curl up in the bed in any chance
Speaker 1: I get. I love, I love, I still do, just
Speaker 1: like a little sneak up and kiss around the cheek
Speaker 1: and squeeze her. M Um, well we do think so honey,
Speaker 1: moms and the cuddling of them. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what we don't think, so honey, whatever and Yang is
Speaker 1: gonna say right now, so um this is his I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Are you ready? Bow? I'm ready
Speaker 1: good because your time starts now. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: physical keys, it is this weight that we all carry
Speaker 1: with us, and it is it's this it's this crazy
Speaker 1: like Sisiphian like way of like having to like sort through.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like stuff that you have to like
Speaker 1: sort through and like you have to carry the knowledge
Speaker 1: of like what you have with you all the time.
Speaker 1: And I find it to be very very very crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I need other cerebral real estate for other things
Speaker 1: I could be. I could like I could I could
Speaker 1: remember the movies that Cameron Diaz has been in and
Speaker 1: and just and like knowing that she was a prestige
Speaker 1: actress at one point, like I just think, Key's I
Speaker 1: know this is seconds like bringing up like this quotitian thing,
Speaker 1: but like, I really don't I welcome like the surveillance
Speaker 1: state as far as it left enter buildings with just
Speaker 1: a phone or um a little a little bluetooth action.
Speaker 1: And so I've been saying track me, daddy for years.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I used to think I had an
Speaker 1: inch o I look at me. I belonged to an
Speaker 1: interesting subculture, and my Discover weekly knows me so so
Speaker 1: specifically I am nothing like that. They already know me
Speaker 1: taking well, you know, you know what they're going to
Speaker 1: start doing everywhere is the eye recognition. So it's like
Speaker 1: that thing of like how your phone doesn't like when
Speaker 1: you stare at it and unlocks apparently like you know
Speaker 1: whose Disney World and Disneyland, of course, the most forward
Speaker 1: thinking minds the imagineers have thought up a world where
Speaker 1: you can just it's like not gonna be ticketing. It's
Speaker 1: like that you can kind of just like I and
Speaker 1: also get this and get this. This is where I heard.
Speaker 1: It's heading that based on things you've done in the park,
Speaker 1: certain characters will know to interact with you a certain
Speaker 1: way because the eye scanning is going to have followed you.
Speaker 1: So this is something they were talking about for the
Speaker 1: Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is, however you did on the
Speaker 1: certain Millennium Falcon Ride, if you scored a lot of
Speaker 1: points or whatever. Because it's like a video game, you
Speaker 1: would be approached by people in the park being like
Speaker 1: you are a great warrior, you're a great space fighter
Speaker 1: and we respect you, um, and that they would know
Speaker 1: Kate is Kate is mortified. I went really dark with this. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this is very dark. That's that's mostly I'm just like
Speaker 1: I just honestly, I just got sad because I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: because now games are about Star Wars or something, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I was like the teacups, like yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know when the last time you've been to Disneyland is,
Speaker 1: but they really take in a hard right turn into
Speaker 1: video game screen land. I've essentially never been huge wound.
Speaker 1: It was a huge childhood wound because my parents never
Speaker 1: took me Disneyland. I went once. I pretended to be
Speaker 1: diabetic because I had seen it in the babysitters club
Speaker 1: and terrified and my friend's birthday and then the mom
Speaker 1: flipped out and was like your parents, and tell me
Speaker 1: you were diabetic, and then I was like and then
Speaker 1: I tried to carry on and I was like, I'm not.
Speaker 1: It's like it was fortifying. And then I went for
Speaker 1: senior night in high school. But you know, my friends
Speaker 1: and I were cool, so we just got stoned. We're like,
Speaker 1: we're not going on there. But the hack is be stoned.
Speaker 1: But go on the rides. Yeah, yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. I mean, we the thing is
Speaker 1: you go, you're spinning around and letting it happen to you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's served alcohol that they do now, so
Speaker 1: they've just this is this is my this is how
Speaker 1: you know? This is more doomsday googling me knowing where
Speaker 1: they serve alcohol. And Disneyland they serve it at the
Speaker 1: Blue by You now, which is at the restaurant at
Speaker 1: the parts of the Caribbean ride. So there you go. Wow,
Speaker 1: it does sound fun. I'm actually kind of surprised that
Speaker 1: you haven't been. I almost went a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't. And that's where that ends. You know.
Speaker 1: Jacqueline like Disney, I know, I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: should ask her if she would like to go. You know,
Speaker 1: we were once tagged and they said, um, Bowen is
Speaker 1: the Kate and Matt is the Jacqueline, which is why
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe she likes Disney. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did I miss that tag? I
Speaker 1: always searched my name every morning. Anyning um that shocked?
Speaker 1: Someone said that, Wow, that's beautiful. Beautiful. By the way,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I'm terrified for my I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, like I really blacking my brain.
Speaker 1: Terrified too strong a word, but in fact, just like, no,
Speaker 1: I know you. I hate myself for even see this.
Speaker 1: It's below you to have to hear that, to have,
Speaker 1: for you to have to encounter my fear of not
Speaker 1: being interesting enough, for funny enough. Has anyone ever I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that I'm going to do this, but has
Speaker 1: anyone this is probably cheating, splitting them minute into two?
Speaker 1: The form has been ways. Yeah, of course, has anyone
Speaker 1: ever done this? Really? Stradulating over here? What's what is this?
Speaker 1: I'm like COVID. I blame the year of isolation. It
Speaker 1: did make me a more anxious, careful person, which I
Speaker 1: love for me. I know, No, it actually has done that.
Speaker 1: It's it's horrifying. Okay, I'm just gonna do one. And
Speaker 1: it's kind of something I mentioned earlier a little bit
Speaker 1: in different continents. Right, well, this okay, paper lance, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Prosecco,
Speaker 1: I don't. I for years was hypnotized by the culture,
Speaker 1: and I thought that I wanted prosecco. I thought that
Speaker 1: I needed it. I thought that if it's bubbles equal prosecco.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know at that point. I was young.
Speaker 1: Champagne is a certain certain retail France, right, all champagne,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, prosecco. It wasn't until I would say,
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half ago I started to go,
Speaker 1: guess what, I don't like prosecco because it's sweet and
Speaker 1: the bubbles aren't dense enough, and I don't want prosecco,
Speaker 1: and I'd rather start the meal with give me a comma,
Speaker 1: give me a cremont, give me anything but the prosecco.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's an invention of bourgeois,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's this invention that was forced
Speaker 1: at our throats, and we're all hypnotized and we think
Speaker 1: that it's good, but it's not. And the flavor it's not,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's not good. I'm sorry, it's just
Speaker 1: not good. And I'm not gonna lie anymore. And going forward,
Speaker 1: I won't be seduced by by the eight dollar prosecco
Speaker 1: and I will just go straight for something else. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I rather I'm not even getting that's one minute. I
Speaker 1: want to tell you something I have done. I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey prosecco because I don't think so honey prosecco.
Speaker 1: I hate it and it is and oh being bad
Speaker 1: with prosecco, no or not know. What you're doing is
Speaker 1: getting corporation. You're getting a headacheade getting and you don't
Speaker 1: want two glasses of prosecco. I mean, it's just I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's sweet, it's sweet, and I also,
Speaker 1: I don't want to people there's a thing about sweetness,
Speaker 1: like no, they're cond be sweet undertones and wine and
Speaker 1: it's gorgeous. But this is not what I want. It's
Speaker 1: not about the sweetness for me. It is about the
Speaker 1: fact that there's something about prosecco where you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to have a second glass. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think if you're listening to this and you've
Speaker 1: had a second glass of prosecco, something, something's the mass,
Speaker 1: something's call someone, call your treatment. What's what I feel
Speaker 1: is like like prosecco is supposed to be like your
Speaker 1: hands in it. It's like a celebration. No, who are
Speaker 1: we celebrating the big prosecco. That's what it is. Also,
Speaker 1: can you say it's so fizz forward? Oh god, I
Speaker 1: feel like there'sn't enough fizz. I feel like it's always flat.
Speaker 1: It's like falling out of the it's it's just drink
Speaker 1: to be bubbling. I'm sorry, and I say that as
Speaker 1: someone who likes you. I'm not that much. I want bubbles,
Speaker 1: and I'm and I won't do it. I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't know, even Champagne, I'm something like, because you know
Speaker 1: what it is, I've kind of had prosecco and now
Speaker 1: I have that sort of disdain for it, so that
Speaker 1: even the nice bubbling whites, I'm like, I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: here to bring you back to bubbles, back to Cremont,
Speaker 1: back to Cova, back to a gorgea you know, you
Speaker 1: keep you keep sort of saying cova, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's the Maybe Cova is the way I think.
Speaker 1: I think doesn't have Spanish, but the Cova is the way.
Speaker 1: It's the way, let's do it. And I hate that
Speaker 1: I'm quoting a fred Armist and character from an SNL sketch,
Speaker 1: but this is Regie. And at one point it's this
Speaker 1: living room set up. Someone brings up prosecco and then
Speaker 1: Fred Harmison as this woman goes, what are we celebrating?
Speaker 1: Me average, oh my god, that's hysterical, And here I am.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know prosecco. I thought I was somehow
Speaker 1: being a revolutionary No no, no no no, and I know
Speaker 1: you're you're not. I don't feel insulted. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that I feel honestly that I found yes. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying I I felt like when when you said it,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And I feel like
Speaker 1: people looked at me like I had two crazy heads
Speaker 1: when I did it. And so now to sort of
Speaker 1: like hear a sister sort of rage on about prosecco,
Speaker 1: I was like, I must tell her that I feel
Speaker 1: this way. I'm so glad to hear that you that
Speaker 1: you also feel that way so bad and no more.
Speaker 1: You know, I know people that like exclusively drink prosecco,
Speaker 1: and I have a level of distrust for them. It's sinister.
Speaker 1: It's you, you know, I have to they don't know
Speaker 1: what they want, is that they're afraid of what they want.
Speaker 1: There's that, there's that genius You've got to listen to,
Speaker 1: because it is just these two people who are just
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's they're having the most engaging and
Speaker 1: this sounds so like whatever, but like the most engaging conversation.
Speaker 1: It's it's fantastic. I'm thank you. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: deeply flattering. My must just say often imitated, never duplicated.
Speaker 1: Okay here and they're they're trying to be Cape blank.
Speaker 1: The kids are trying to be Calan. They're not doing
Speaker 1: it like them. Oh my god, this was this truly
Speaker 1: lifted me. I'm soaring. I'm taking this into the evening
Speaker 1: and i just feel like I'm looking at a bowl
Speaker 1: of citrus and I'm thinking, are you, oh my California.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel I feel really I feel bright.
Speaker 1: You really restored me to be looking at a bowl
Speaker 1: of citrus. Is it fresh? Yeah? Oh, to think and
Speaker 1: think and think about this morning when that fresh bull
Speaker 1: crust of shaking. What beautiful nature. We have to love
Speaker 1: each other because we're shaking out here. We're shaking out here,
Speaker 1: um and so listen to Poog. Obviously are our sister pod.
Speaker 1: We are so happy to have you here on the show.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this was I was so thrilled
Speaker 1: to do it. You're both so funny and great and
Speaker 1: I just had truly had a blast and for symmetry.
Speaker 1: So for we've had Jacqueline on for symmetry, we'll have
Speaker 1: we had you on, and then we'll have CROO. Would
Speaker 1: love a little crossover thing down the line. Right before
Speaker 1: we logged on, I was tagged, and I too, always
Speaker 1: check my tags. I was tagged in a thing that
Speaker 1: said where is the poo last culture crossover? Oh so
Speaker 1: sweet it happened that night. You should do a crossover
Speaker 1: live event in Vegas just if anyway, if any like
Speaker 1: deep pocketed producers are out there, they are, we would
Speaker 1: love to do it in Vegas. Host does in Vegas
Speaker 1: hostess that you know, like the Bellaggio or whatever. What
Speaker 1: I want to do is us for in front of
Speaker 1: the phones as they dance and us talk and no
Speaker 1: one be able to hear us because of the waters
Speaker 1: are going. I think it'd be great. Imagine yeah dance,
Speaker 1: Um so listen bou famously, Uh we do end every
Speaker 1: episode with a song and uh take it away, shack
Speaker 1: it up a chick. Hey, just gonna tell you's gonna
Speaker 1: play play and I'm just gonna shake shake it up,
Speaker 1: chick it up. Bye. Thank you Taylor for that one. Bye.