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Speaker 1: guys want to have. Thank you is would you? Would you? Okay?

424
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: So no, I love that. I love that reading of it. Yes,

425
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: I think it's like also because there's something so embarrassing

426
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: and vulnerable about being like I want face cream because

427
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, you want to be pretty bitch.

428
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 1: You know. It's like just in doing these things, which

429
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: you know most of us do do, most of us

430
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: are in some way inscribed in this system of trying

431
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: to better ourselves, you know, from Nivia to I don't

432
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: have that, but like these from Nia to clinic. Yes, yes,

433
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, keep going, keep going. But yeah, we all

434
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: uh desire, we all have desires. We all have you know,

435
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: some aspirational vision of and then just the kind of

436
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: magical reality that's attached to products and that it's very real.

437
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And you know it's interesting you bring up

438
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: face creams because really this year it's the first year

439
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: that I'm really diving into them, and I wish I

440
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: could tell people, like some people are like, hey, your

441
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: skins looking a little better. What are you doing? I

442
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: buy everything, everything I buy, I put it all on

443
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: my face at one time, so I don't actually even

444
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: because because I guess I get in my head like

445
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: it's the crisis of so many, it's the what do

446
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: they call it, the plague of plenty? They don't call

447
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: it that, but I'm calling that um plenty. It's like

448
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: great books. Yeah, some mathysiologists should get on that. But

449
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: but basically, I'll get all this ship and I'll feel like, well,

450
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: I have to use all of it to make sure

451
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: because something will work, and then I don't know now

452
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: what works or what doesn't work because it's all on there. Yeah,

453
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: that can't be good if you if you want to go,

454
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: if you want to emerge like Korean Eastern skincare with

455
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: like Western like dermatology skincare, The steps are cleans, clean's, toner's, foliate, serum, moisturized.

456
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: And then if it's today, ESPF, if it's night, you

457
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: do another sleeping mask or an I cream. That's the

458
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: general order. You just want to like dinness to thickest.

459
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: That's that's the guideline. And I don't claim to know,

460
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: don't anything. That's the other thing. Well, you're saying, sin

461
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: to thick change my life. You know, even just isn't

462
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: it isn't so funny? Is that simple? And only just

463
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: now was it ever really said for the consumer out there?

464
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: And I dream of a life of you know, the

465
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: woman with one cream like my my mother has has

466
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: aged beautifully, she's seventy six. She like her skin is great.

467
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: She doesn't really makeup. She uses drug store products, you know,

468
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why can't I like like she Now

469
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: she's like she e'ts kind of whatever she wants, you know,

470
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: she drinks at night. She has like a problem. But

471
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: but no, but it's but now in this we have

472
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: too many products. But but the fantasy of having no

473
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: products is also its own magical reality. Right, It's like,

474
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: I know, but you meet those people where they're like

475
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: all I put on is perfume. It's like they're like,

476
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: I use water and bar so, I use Irish spring

477
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: under my eye. It's a whole It's a whole scene

478
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: in Madman, like Megan Draper being like, yeah, my mother

479
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: just washes her face with warm water and then like

480
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: touches her face with the tips of her fingers like that.

481
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I'm mortified that I do. It's

482
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: one of the only scenes from Madman that I remember vividly,

483
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, why do I remember that scene

484
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: of Jessica Parrow. That's the scene that stirred you. Oh

485
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: my god, this is when your first meeting Megan and

486
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: then like who is that? Who is that character? And

487
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: then and then and then they make you love her

488
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: and they really you who the who the hell was

489
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: I I hated her because she was young and beautiful.

490
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, they really turned it on. You Know what

491
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I've never like sort of been more shocked by but

492
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: also seen myself and more is the performance of Zoobie

493
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: Zoobie Zoo. I really was just like so shocked that

494
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: it was happening. And then by the end I was like, yeah,

495
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: but you And like I was like what is this

496
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: show doing? And then I was like, no, wait, you

497
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: want to know what people take? Big swings? They do

498
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: so just because we don't see this like a recognize

499
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: this in nature, I'm like, no, but there is a

500
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: world where this woman has done this and we're watching it. Yeah. Yeah,

501
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: the big swing that is the sending back. Big swings

502
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: are embar As saying. I mean, I think we're remember

503
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: when there was like a little period of time, maybe

504
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: a few years ago, where everyone was like sincerity, like

505
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: earnestness is about to like have a moment in comedy

506
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: is specifically, and I was like really, and then I

507
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: guess that kind of came true. But now I think

508
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: depend the period the frequency on the swing back is

509
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: so quick now, you know how to you know, it's like, oh,

510
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: like fashion trends recycle every thirty years, and now it's

511
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: like twenty or ten. Like I feel like that that

512
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: cycle is that the period literally is shrinking so that

513
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we're gonna like rock back and forth

514
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: between these two poles every year now maybe like in

515
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: a few years. And that is actually so so so

516
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: upsetting and horrifying to me. Does that Am I making sense? Yeah, No,

517
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what I think I'm everyone can't wait

518
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: to see what's gonna happen the next five honutes. It

519
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: does feel, but it is kind of I don't even

520
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: know how I mean. You two are you know you

521
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: you're you talk about culture and I feel so currently

522
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: not outside of it, but like I can't even I

523
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing anymore. No neither Joey. Oh please.

524
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: That's why it's so crazy, because like I feel constantly

525
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: out of the loop, Like like I feel like I

526
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 1: opened the newspaper and front page is middle parts and

527
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm sorry, you can't get me to part

528
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: my hair down the middle, Like it's not gonna happen.

529
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: That was something that actually did come to the surface

530
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: for me. Somebody was like, oh, side parts are for

531
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: old people, and I've been doing a side part since

532
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: nine two, and I was just it hit me so

533
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: hard and I tried to do a middle. I even

534
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: doing it. You've done a middle, terrified me. I've done

535
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: a middle. By the way, this could never happen from it,

536
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: what I said was a lie. I'm lying on air.

537
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm lying on air. But I did center forever and

538
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: then right before the pandemic, I think I started feeling

539
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: flirty and I started going to the side and I

540
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: this is me now. I was loving in the privacy

541
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: of my home, and then someone told me that it

542
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: was a sign of being. I feel like for men,

543
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: a middle part is such a bi crazy like not

544
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: like it's right thing, Like who do I think I am?

545
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: Devin Sawa? Like is that even how you say that?

546
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think that is. Of course

547
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: it looks looks fantastic with the middle part. You yeah,

548
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: you have modern Well, I gotta say, like, it just

549
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: feels like such a hard pivot, like you don't think

550
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: you think, like, oh yeah, I guess that's true. Side parts,

551
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: the middle part doesn't feel like a big deal, but

552
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: it's really a face changer. And in terms of like

553
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: what's popular in like comedy, film, television, whatever. I have

554
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: no idea whether we're doing Fleabag or are we doing

555
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: Austin Powers. I just feel like, is it both? Can

556
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: it be both? I hope? So where do you found

557
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: that spectrum kate between Fleabag and Austin Powers. Well, I

558
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: recently tried to rewatch the spy who shocked me because

559
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: it was. It was big when I was, however old,

560
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: and well, yeah it wasn't. It didn't slap. The highlight

561
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: of that film is the end where Fraud is counting.

562
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: I didn't finish it, but Fraud counting down to the

563
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: rocket is genius. I don't know if maybe that holds up.

564
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's great, but again didn't get that far.

565
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: I also, we watched The Mask and I thought, oh, yeah,

566
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: I know, I don't like broad like. I know, I

567
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: don't like really broad like in Austin Powers. I like

568
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of it because a lot of it feels

569
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: like specifically dumb like. But the Mask is literally just

570
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: and I like Jim Carrey, but the Mask is like

571
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: someone looking at camera and saying, somebody's that me, And

572
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm like that to me is like Toddler humor that

573
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I hope doesn't return. What I was couldn't believe is

574
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: the Mask. He did Mask and Ace Fintura the same year.

575
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine that career, the stamina,

576
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: imagine the calls they were coming in. We got a

577
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: know one for you, you you know, I just and the offers.

578
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine the offers anyway, Cameron introducing again

579
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Never Forgot, which was I couldn't believe it. That movie

580
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: has made me so horny for her to go from

581
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: the mask to like the next year, like my best

582
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: friend's wedding, Like there aren't careers like that, or maybe

583
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: there are the greatest film. No, there are. Oh my god,

584
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Martin is in the room. The spirit is here. This

585
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: this is good about haveing a good exorcism, and we

586
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: will never return. You will never return. You know who's

587
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: had a Cameron Diaz? Is I feel Margot Robbie, Yeah, yeah,

588
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Margot Robbie is the spiritually, the spiritual successor to Cameron

589
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Diaz sort of comes and splashes onto the scene and

590
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: then is prestige but also big budget because you know

591
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: there's another one of them suicide squads coming out. Was

592
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Cameron ever's prestige. Cameron was prestige and being John Malkovich,

593
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: and she was prestige in the Thank You and how

594
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: dare I had that not been at the front of

595
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: my mind? And she was prestige for a hot second

596
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: there and she I believe she got awards for her

597
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: performance in Vanilla Sky or awards nominations, and she was

598
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: also prestige enough to be in Scorsese's Gangs of New York.

599
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't know I had the bibliography on

600
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Cameron d Has but apparently I do. Um. But my

601
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: best friend's wedding, She's genius, my best kiss, genius and

602
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: being John Malkovich one of the great films. And I

603
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: mean I was thinking on my best friend's wedding today

604
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: because Julia in it is stunning. The only woman that

605
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I ever knew. I didn't know what a woman was

606
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: until Julia Roberts. That's a great way to put it,

607
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: explain that I just when Julia Howfords came on the scene,

608
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know the first time I

609
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: saw her. I will say Aaron Brockovich was a foundational

610
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: text for me. I was like very obsessed with it,

611
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: and I used to at that point, I would put

612
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: on high heels and I realized, like, oh, I can

613
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: do homework at home and high heels. I can dress

614
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: up like I'm a lawyer and then middle doing homework

615
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: and it makes you better. I would dress up, so

616
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: I would dress up to do homework, and I'd be like, God,

617
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: dammit it, you know, I'd like walk around my heels,

618
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: and it really helped, which became like a tool that

619
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I continue to use in my life of like, dress

620
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: up for it, do what you can to make it easier.

621
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: Pretend someone's watching you be the actor in the movie,

622
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: Pretend that you're doing the thing, and then you'll oops,

623
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: now I'm actually doing it. It's very helpful. Yes, I

624
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: think maybe this is generationally specific, but that movie, the

625
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: line readings on like a on like a like a

626
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: musical milaw audical level, burned in burnn burn Five is

627
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: my phone number. Yeah, and I'm guessing that zero is

628
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: the number of times you're gonna call Oh my God.

629
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. That's all You've got, lady, too wrong, fucking

630
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: ugly shoes. Yes, And actual chemistry. Also, I'll say actual chemistry.

631
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: When have we seen chemistry? Not even with this? I

632
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: mean this, This is a fucking deep cut. And and okay,

633
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: here cut us, I got fire. What have you been

634
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: working so hard? Doesn't matter, doesn't make one fucking a

635
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: bit of difference. I just got chills. She's driving, right,

636
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: she's driving. No, no, no, no, that's he's fixing her pipes.

637
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: And the baby and the baby says a word and

638
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: the baby says it were The baby says the word

639
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: is she's driving, Yes, and she said he says ball

640
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: and she's driving and she gets her Oscar nomination. There

641
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: also that the nomination. Also, we're also forgetting. We're also

642
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: forgetting when the cockroach runs through the thing and she goes,

643
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: who lives like this? She's unbelieving football, she's unbelievable and

644
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: you know what, it's funny, it's suspenseful, are unbelievable. Her

645
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: hair changed everything for me. She's a whole lot. That's

646
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: why it's like, it's amazing. She's harnessing so much to

647
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: give a performance that feels so real and it's just

648
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: like that a real movie star, like such a movie star,

649
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: but somehow a movie star who actually can then disappear

650
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: and do a role. It's crazy. I mean, don't have

651
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: disappears the right word, but but it was. Yeah. I

652
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: love her. I love her and my best friend's wedding.

653
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: She's amazing, amazing and the character is so like evil

654
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: yeah and does crazy thing No I would say calling

655
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: to get your are like and you can see her

656
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: way at one point. But my favorite thing is when

657
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: a reshoot is obvious have you ever seen the proposal

658
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: with Sandra Bullock, another absolute queen of the of the cinema.

659
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: You would you would like, you know, it's really really stupid,

660
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: but also it works because Sandra's just doing it. She's

661
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know how to describe it, but

662
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: Sandra's She's just doing it. So there's a there's a

663
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: moment at the end, but do you know what I'm

664
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: talking about where she's like packing up her stuff. The

665
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: whole point of the movie spoiler alert is that she

666
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: is like this like dragon lady of a Boss. Ryan

667
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Reynolds is her assistant, and uh, she has to pretend

668
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: that they're getting married, just staying in the country because

669
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: she's getting deported to Canada. So she gets like skip

670
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: to the end of the movie. She's getting deported. She's

671
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: packing up her stuff and she's like, all right, I

672
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: need these boxes taken here, I need this, I need that,

673
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: And in runs Ryan Reynolds and she turns around and

674
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: her hair is parted to the different side. It is

675
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: such a fun continuity or it's so bad. I have

676
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: no idea whether it was shot eight months later or what,

677
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: but it is so funny. Everyone just go Google. All

678
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: readers should google proposal ending scene and you'll see it's

679
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: like she turns around, Ryan Reynolds is there. They cut

680
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: the head and they cut back to her and she

681
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: goes Andrew and her hair is completely it's not caught

682
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: on catching that. Well, it's like, who's that village? Yeah,

683
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: who's that village? Who's who's script supervising video village readers?

684
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: People watching things happen as I always thought it'd be

685
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: funny to be like, we met it, we met it

686
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: video village. It was really casual, and then before I

687
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: knew it, there were sparks in video Village that night.

688
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: Maybe sparks in video Village is titled of app I'm

689
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: a fan of Who's that village? And immediately transport its transported?

690
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: It is for us in a very deep way. All right,

691
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: So listen. So we've sort of like stumbled into the

692
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: area of like foundational texts, and so this is where

693
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: we sort of feel like it's a good opportunity and

694
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: we take opportunities here. Sorry to ask the question, Kimberland,

695
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture was

696
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: for you? Do you understand the question? Yes? I love

697
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: this question. I think it's a profound gift to give.

698
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Listen and the participant call us Santa Claus. It's a

699
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: hard question. It's a hard question because you know, I

700
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: feel like I have a two pronged answer. Use both problems,

701
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: please thinking, okay, but both prongs engaged. Um. Very foundational

702
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: for me was watching the Oscars with my mom. Yeah,

703
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: and like my mom having a glass of champagne, being

704
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: very the excitement, really caring. I think because I was

705
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: growing I grew up without religion, like I grew up

706
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: like just very like secular. Like. There was not never

707
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: a mention of sports in my home. There was never

708
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: I know, the child, so um I had to create

709
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: there was. There were no bottles first my parents. So

710
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm blinded by the light. It's okay, it's it's right,

711
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: blinded by a light right now, it's crepuscular. The second

712
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: became very noir where she is and all of a

713
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: sudden we're transported. Yeah. And so because of the absence

714
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: of kind of religion or maybe ritual like just more

715
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: like more, I was craving ritual. I was craving religion.

716
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I think I was craving something to like punctuate the

717
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: year something to have meaning something that was like that

718
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: my that I was like watching the television with my parents,

719
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: like you know, something to to to idolize, and the

720
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: oscars are right there and so and I just loved

721
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: the glitz and the glam. Of course, It's also the

722
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: first time that I felt like my favorite thing was

723
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: to watch the actors watch their clips, their nominates, right,

724
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: and the kind of split between Okay, so that's a character.

725
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: This is the actual actor, but the but the knowledge

726
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: of the actor is still acting because they're on camera

727
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and they're at this psychotic ball where they have to

728
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: perform themselves. So it was kind of like just I

729
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: just it was very interesting to me and exciting and

730
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: also just fun to watch. I mean, you know, Hollywood

731
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: and and all of that, but that was that did

732
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think just the speeches and kind

733
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: of like knowing when I was watching certain speeches, like

734
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: they're lying. You can see you can see the artifice

735
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: from the beginning you feel. I mean, it sounds preposterous

736
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: even then, but I just think it was I didn't

737
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew what was going on, but

738
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: I just knew, like I'm interested in the social sort

739
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: of display. It is like an interesting social experiment, right,

740
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: It's like you get actors to compete with one another.

741
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Then you find out later they've campaigned for this, and

742
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. You bring up the watching of the

743
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: clips because that is my favorite part, is the moments

744
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: before the winner is announced and they're all watching a

745
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: clip that I don't think they picked, and it feels

746
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: like they can do one of I'm gonna say three things.

747
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: Act embarrassed by it, Dyon Keenan, Dyan keanan right, or

748
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: like anyone being like, oh, who, like, come on like

749
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: that clip. I guess I'm here, or I guess that

750
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: wasn't right right, Or they can solemnly watch it well

751
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: and be like that was my work. Most people do that.

752
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: Or and that's like a Nicole. That's like a cat.

753
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of examples. Yeah, like Nicole. They

754
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: looks up and then directly to the I'm always the partner.

755
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: It's really about they bring and the the acknowledgement of love.

756
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: The performance of the partner is always like that's more

757
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: now and I felt so raw after making this film

758
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: and etcetera. And then there's a third sort of way

759
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: I think people can do it, which is to pretend

760
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: it's not happening and sort of still be having a

761
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: conversation with whoever is next to them if they don't know.

762
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: The fourth thing is a bit like comedy bit about it,

763
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: like cross your eyes like you look at it, or

764
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: they cut back to you when you were in funny glasses,

765
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: like you'll often see it reserved only for the Indie

766
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Spirit Awards. I mean that's like to make such exactly exactly,

767
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: but it is interesting that's Golden Globes only. Yes, never

768
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: the Oscars what they dare. Do you remember specific ceremony

769
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, I know, I'm thinking,

770
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: I really for me, it was from it was it

771
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: was Titanic. That was the year that, like Key, I

772
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: think a bunch of kids in our generation and I

773
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: think like Titanic, Yeah, that was. I was thinking about

774
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: Titanic today because I was like Titanic was and that

775
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: was the first time I feel like there was a

776
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: movie like that was the culture was feeding you so aggressively.

777
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the movie and I felt

778
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: somehow kind of maybe a little more adult because I

779
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: was able to enjoy Titanic and then it won Best Picture,

780
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, look at me and enjoying

781
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: it exactly. Yeah, it's funny that, like it's true. But

782
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, they've even tried to, like the Oscars have

783
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: even tried to become part of the monoculture of certain

784
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: things in recent years by like making there be ten

785
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: nominees or they'll nominate like Avatar, which is truly laugh

786
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: out loud that that it would get so many Oscar

787
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: nominations in watching it now, but it still feels like

788
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: it's a good rewatch um because it's a laugh a minute,

789
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: but it's funny. But because like they really do try

790
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: to get these bigger movies nominated by doing more nominees

791
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: for Best Picture, and it feels like no one's watching

792
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: them anymore, Like did you hear how bad the ratings

793
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: work for the Golden Globes, Like it's like, really, people

794
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: don't care about these award shows anymore. In a way

795
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: that's like obviously important, right, Like in a Stiroids, it's

796
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: like obviously like yeah, they're they're like a horrifying element

797
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: of the culture. And then now some of like college

798
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: is also like well that's fake too, you know. It's

799
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: like oh he gets to go to college. Who gets

800
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: to participate in this system? Right? And similarly, like these

801
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: award shows are being revealed for that. But and like

802
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: kind of as they try to like do the right thing,

803
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: they're like further revealed to me, like you don't understand

804
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: or something like it's very but rewatching Oscar speeches. I

805
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: I do that, Like sometimes it's very comforting to me.

806
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: YouTube clips of watching old acceptance speeches and what stands

807
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: out Julia Actually, my god, she does a little bit.

808
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: It's when she wins for Aaron Brockovich. I think she's

809
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: she's doing some excessive laugh acting. Yeah, I agree. And

810
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: that's so hard. Yeah, a lot a lot it's at

811
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: and it's hard because to be I mean, can you

812
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: imagine listen, when I was a little girl, Okay, I

813
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: thought I'm going to be a big star daddy, right,

814
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: and then you grow up and you go I'm not,

815
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: and thank God, or like it's like I'm never I'm

816
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: never gonna have to be Julia, Like I'm never gonna

817
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: have to be here like blessed be the character actress,

818
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm never gonna have to be To be honest,

819
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be I won't ever have to be

820
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: in the gown and everyone going, isn't she the most beautiful?

821
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: And here's your award and everyone's looking at you. It's

822
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: like that. Then that produces the fake laughter because then

823
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: you have to be humbled, which is the Anne Hathaway

824
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of that it came true and then we all

825
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: jumped on her throat for it in a way that

826
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: it's like this, of course, but also we have to

827
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: cut her some slack, like that's performance hell, receiving an

828
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: award like that and then having to act like you

829
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: are being and also just the embarrassment of being overwhelmed

830
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: by an award. Right, It's like there's so much happening

831
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: at once, so much. It's a lot, and it is

832
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: a thank god I don't have to be a Julia

833
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: Roberts thing. Right, It's like, I don't know what that

834
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: walking personal hell is. It's I mean, well, you can't win.

835
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: Julie is a friend and yeah, no, no, it's so hard.

836
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: I would kill for her friendship. I would kill for

837
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: he even even if she is like clean, please, I love.

838
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I would sign up for the abuse. Um, I feel

839
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: like you can't really win either, because yeah, nicest lady

840
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: on the street, um down similar in two weeks apart,

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Speaker 1: they had a rule continue I've done the research, continuing

842
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: Danny motor Um. Yeah, it's like if you're too casual,

843
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: like if you're SuDS, like a few weeks ago, like

844
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: at the Goal Glows when he was like obviously baked

845
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: and won an award he didn't expect. Everyone was like,

846
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: well fuck him, because you know what, women have to

847
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: get dressed up, and it's like if you're being like

848
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: my dream came true tonight, everyone's like, well suck her,

849
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: because it's like you you're it's either side of the spectrum.

850
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: No one has no one can go up there and

851
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: kill it unless you're like Jeff Bridget truly like where

852
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: it's just like some older man that's like really deserving.

853
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: It says someone, Yeah, but if if if, but if

854
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: you're a woman, if you're if you're winning Best Actress

855
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: right now, the person who has done the best datic

856
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: quote unquote I think has been like a Bree Larson

857
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: going up taken award being like, well this is so lovely,

858
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: thank you all so much, and just yea beautiful but

859
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: to even have to perform that she probably had to

860
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: like process that be like I gotta be fully exquisite acting. Ye, yes, yes,

861
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: it's hell because I remember the Life is Beautiful to say,

862
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: what's his name? Life is beautiful was a real problem

863
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: in my house, Like my dad was like, you could

864
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: never have made the Holocaust fucking play, like there was

865
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: like a then I didn't. I still haven't seen it.

866
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: So then I remember like just being a child and

867
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: being like that movie is bad. And then and then

868
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: his big standing on the chairs going crazy and I

869
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's full of ship, right, and like no,

870
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: but did anyone ever hear from him? Again? I don't

871
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: think so, because he was like now I get to

872
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: yeah he did it. And that also watching the Oscars now,

873
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: watching those montages of the nominees, it does give you

874
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: this comfort of like a right. It's also like fleeting

875
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: or ephemeral, like even you can be nominated for Best

876
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: Actress for an Academy Award like ostensibly the peak right

877
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: all you could ever and then you're watching it going hey,

878
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: who's that? Like who are people? The movie you've never

879
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: heard of? And then it's it's like, you know, there

880
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: is something comforting about about watching Yeah, I think it's

881
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: just it's I don't know. I feel like as the

882
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: media gets more and more sensitive every year, it all

883
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: just falls away, Like I don't know who Elisha vik

884
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: Candor is. I can't pretend that I ever did. I

885
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: don't think she's the only person who has top line,

886
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: huge box office films and won an oscar that I

887
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: don't think I recognize on the street. And this was recent.

888
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: I feel like, though, the only way to really nail

889
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: it is if you just don't see it coming, like

890
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: when Marianne cotre one like and she was just coman

891
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: or like right when you're just so like sharked and friends,

892
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: like when you're like, thank you life, thank you love.

893
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: It's just like a perfect god. Can you imagine if

894
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: someone who just no, we need that for for drag,

895
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: for life, for food. I'm so glad you say that

896
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: because it is still possible. Right, And then this happened

897
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: to like no, I won't give us a little magic,

898
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: like yes, there there there should be some magic here. Sorry,

899
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: I was I was growing earlier because I was thinking

900
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: one of my most top offenders, Eddie redmay Oh, I

901
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: can't toss him out with the terrible, terrible, and for

902
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: what I I returned to it to to mutilate, to

903
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: self mutilate, you know, just and the stumbling like I

904
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: am very very you know, it's he's just I mean again,

905
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: I hate it, but he's just too um, too over

906
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: joyed by himself. But it's tweet, it's it's it's you

907
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's like, there's nothing funnier to

908
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: me than people that take themselves that seriously and then

909
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: like for that to not even be funny because it's

910
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: so continuing to be so serious. I'm just like, it's

911
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: like when Casey Affleck won all those awards, it's like,

912
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: not only was it like we're awarding like a ray

913
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: this here, it's also like he couldn't be more boring.

914
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: And I get that his acting performance was good, but

915
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: we're like like why why why I respect the audience,

916
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: respect my mother and myself watching with Champagne, like give

917
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: us something. That's why it's important to have a dull

918
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: sim That's why that's important. Yeah, that's why it was

919
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: the best moment of my life and the number one

920
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: moment in culture history. That's true. Uh, I just just

921
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: to put it. I guess we can we can keep

922
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: discussing this, but I do think that we all agree

923
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: that the only way to avoid performing authenticity or the

924
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: self or whatever is to actually be genuinely surprised along

925
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: with everyone else, along with the audience. And what a

926
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: magical for that to actually happen. Happens. There's not the

927
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: hardest thing to act is being surprised and laughing, right, Oh,

928
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: I love that you guys talked about this on the

929
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: On the podcast, I was like, you guys were talking

930
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: about what was it? It was laughing, but there was

931
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: also like was it like, uh, something else too? But

932
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: laughing is like, oh, I know, I think what it

933
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: was was. I was saying that my greatest fear is

934
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: to have to is acting being cast as like a

935
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: funny persons actually like impossible, delivering a zinger or some

936
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: like you could be like, look at this funny charming

937
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: and that's it's interesting enough. It's what I have to return.

938
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: I've been meaning all year to return to sexon City,

939
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: like the beginning, just watch it all again. And that's

940
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: kind of like the crisis of Carry, the crisis of Carry,

941
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: because Carrie needed to be funny and we needed to

942
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: she was there with the Zingers. We needed to and

943
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: it was an impossible it's an impossible space to occupy.

944
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: Did samanthis Si? Did Kim Cattrall succeed though? Oh yeah,

945
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: she's enough of a character the protagonists carry, we are

946
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be carry, and so Samantha was able to

947
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: deliver Zinger after Zinger and it's hilarious. She didn't have

948
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: to be the surrogate for the audience. No is crazy.

949
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Samantha is giving you her opinions. Like whenever Samantha is

950
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: saying something funny, she's she's usually saying because because she

951
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: feels it, whereas Carrie is often commenting on what the

952
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: other women are doing and saying so she's literally making

953
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: jokes like her action often is making a joke about things,

954
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: which is I think a testament tes JP that she

955
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: was able to carry it through. Yes, it would have

956
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: been so annoying on someone that wasn't so likable. Also,

957
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: great awards speeches from that girl, Oh for sure, for sure. Um,

958
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I have the staminate to watch it

959
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: from beginning to end, but I did read I mean

960
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: carry o'donald wrote this piece. I think it was in

961
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: the cut about how the last season is actually genuinely

962
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: still great and like, oh, I have to watch and

963
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: I think I do that from six to six b Split,

964
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: Sex and City was huge in my home, and that

965
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: was another thing. My mother loved it and my dad

966
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: really loved it. And remember that was something where I

967
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: was like, oh, interesting, Like my dad was like a

968
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: phenomenal to hear it, because for me, it was one

969
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: of those things that I had to I obviously like

970
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: closet and a gay child that couldn't be like, we're

971
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: watching this like and so my parents would leave and

972
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: whenever they were gone for the day, I'd watch as

973
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: many on HBO on demand as I could and even

974
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: like and this was like and then I remember the

975
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: last season. And you know what's so great about the

976
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: last episode of the last season, which is almost like

977
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: why I wish they wouldn't even do any of these movies,

978
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: is she has a monologue in that last episode which

979
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: is so good when she's like, let me be clear

980
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: about who I am to the Russian and she's like,

981
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I am someone who is looking for love, and it's

982
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: like she arrived thereat she realized what she wanted. Indescribable

983
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: can control it? Whatever it is in convening menient cats

984
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: live without each other love. She's all on the chest,

985
00:54:53,200 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: she's always in this beautiful apart, beautiful in Paris, in Paris.

986
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, really excited, shouldn't have come here? And then

987
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: she leaves and she never her hands never leave her chest,

988
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: so right, and then we're laughing and big No, it's

989
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's huge, deeply formative, deeply formative. What is them?

990
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: Was there a second prong that we haven't touched? Lost

991
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: the problem? No? No, no, oh no no, it was

992
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: again of course like rosy lead back to my mother,

993
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: who's like a very dramatic person. But like I think, also,

994
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if this counts. I don't know if

995
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: this counts, but my like, it's kind of connected to

996
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: what I was saying, but like this performance of self.

997
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: But like dinner parties, that was really also something where

998
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I get this, like being alive stuff,

999
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: like you're alive. Do you have people over? Yeah, you

1000
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: make you serve food, you wear something, you buy flowers,

1001
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: you make the lighting nice, you decide, like you create

1002
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: an experience for other people. That was very like immediately

1003
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I like that I was like, that's important.

1004
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: And I think also seeing my mom be like it

1005
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: was it's a creative act, the generous, a generous act

1006
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: to have people over and feed them or and so

1007
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: that was and also seeing my mom like the panic,

1008
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: like the pre hosting and like the you know, the

1009
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: like not those chairs, you know, and all of that

1010
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: and kind of and like the anxiety of that and

1011
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: the preparation for the guests to come, and the kind

1012
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: of like that and my mom, Now, this is so

1013
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: funny to My parents would throw a holiday party every

1014
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: year and my mom would spend like six months playing

1015
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: it or whatever. It was a huge deal. It was

1016
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: a great party. She's so get in the house ready,

1017
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: all the thing, and then the guests to start to arrive.

1018
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: My mother nowhere to be seen. My mother would be

1019
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: in the bedroom. My mom would be getting ready, and

1020
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: it was this thing of like her and it was

1021
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: where's Helen. It was like the guest It was always

1022
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: a chorus of where is Helen? Where's Helen? And my

1023
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: mom would be like held up in the bathroom with

1024
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: a glass of champagne, like putting on some lipstick and

1025
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 1: being like what am I wait up? You know, and

1026
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: even though I'm kind of like, you knew what you

1027
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: were going to wear to this, you know, and it

1028
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: was a little bit of like now I think people

1029
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: kind of having me come out, come out, and I

1030
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: really see myself in her. This I'm painting as a

1031
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: much more psychotic portrait of what it actually was like

1032
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: in the lived experience. But I see that now and

1033
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: also happen. This is a live revelation. Folks haven't talked

1034
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: about this ever before in therapy, never before, but like,

1035
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: but that was like seeing her kind of shift and

1036
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: seeing that, like the anxiety of performance, which you know

1037
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: you feel when you start on a set. You feel

1038
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: that when you start to a dinner party, right, and

1039
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: the vulnerability of hosting because set the stage and everything

1040
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: has happened and everything is right. But once she steps

1041
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: out into it, then she has to become part of it,

1042
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: and then the installation is truly complete. So it's really

1043
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: you that thing of like it doesn't exist until she's

1044
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: actually out there and she and when you've built something

1045
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: up so much, it's tough to say, let's let's have

1046
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: the curtain go up. You know what I mean is

1047
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: that thing and to insist in your own creation. It's

1048
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: like awkward to be like, oh, yeah, no, I planned

1049
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: this particulously and like, you know, like there's something that

1050
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: that like showing care, showing derris say it's a hot word, labor,

1051
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, showing it like showing like showing that is yeah.

1052
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: And then and they're just like telling stories like that's

1053
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, being funny, being like captivating. And again, I

1054
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: was an only child, and I was really it was

1055
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: really important to me to make adults laugh or be

1056
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: chicken seriously because you would be yes because I were present.

1057
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, there was no there was no kids table

1058
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: or anything no, because my parents friends like truly did

1059
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: not have kids. And so I was really with a

1060
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: lot of adults and I yeah, I was like, I

1061
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be a kid, like I want to

1062
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, make someone laugh and I and so that

1063
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: was that was a big that was big for me.

1064
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: And then of course you know strictly ballroom and you

1065
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: know that stuff too. Did you did you find that?

1066
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: So so in order to make them laugh, you were

1067
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: never performing kid. You were performing as if as if

1068
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: you were yes or something. I don't even really know

1069
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: what I was doing, but I recognize now that I

1070
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: think they probably also were laughing because I was trying

1071
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what I mean, like at

1072
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: the time, and I can't recall like, of course, when

1073
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: I was really little, I was kind of like clowning

1074
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: or something. Remember, like I did like some magic tricks

1075
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: once or like something like that. But um or like

1076
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: famous Sam Mom says. You know, I would go around

1077
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: and ask, you know, what kind of wine do you want?

1078
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: Red or right? But you know, but I made a

1079
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: mistake and I said red or blue. I was just cute.

1080
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 1: But I was very young at that point. But yeah,

1081
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just remember the extreme satisfaction of

1082
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: like of like making them laugh, like actually making them up. Yeah, yeah,

1083
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bring up something. I

1084
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, there was like your whole family died.

1085
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: I I hesitated to even bring this up because it

1086
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: feels it feels so pilot the pilot about I was

1087
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: going to say, of course, so I'll say I'll give

1088
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: you a perfect Okay, we're cutting in here, um, which

1089
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: we which we love. By the way, you guys sent

1090
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: it to us and we watched it together, and we

1091
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: watched it together and we showed it to our friends,

1092
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: like and then we love different. We were just like

1093
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: this is a perfect there's a perfect pilot. Yeah, anyway,

1094
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: So yes, I've always been obsessed with hosting and John early,

1095
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: and I think we sort of, you know, fell in

1096
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: love with each other because of like the shared sensibility

1097
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: of like understanding like that and kind of having always

1098
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: been interested in that, and then that like the crisis

1099
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: of personality, like the crisis of like presenting yourself. And

1100
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: so we made a pilot that did not air, did

1101
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: not air. It's it's truly an honor um to hear that.

1102
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: But and the pilot that we made was, um the

1103
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: shows about believe, are you ready to best friends? But

1104
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: but the pilot was all set around a dinner party

1105
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: and these two people who are kind of married but

1106
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: they're not, but they um act as they're married essentially,

1107
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: and it's them throwing this dinner party and kind of

1108
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: all the steaks and kind of the kind of crumbling

1109
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: around it. And I loved the ending though, when it

1110
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: was sort of revealed that they had just met, Like

1111
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: I thought that there was something so interesting there and

1112
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: like people that can become codependent very quickly, Like I

1113
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: love that about it, and I'm always trying to I'm

1114
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: always trying to find a way to put to really

1115
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: get because codependency, like it's only I haven't seen it

1116
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: really explored in like a way that I'm like, yes, yes,

1117
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: yes yet. But then it was really getting there, and

1118
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was so interesting like that everyone was like, yeah,

1119
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: they don't really know each other. It's been like it's

1120
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: been like three or four months. And I just thought

1121
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: that was so that's just like a funny smart because

1122
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: also that's like true to John. People like when we

1123
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: started being friends were like, oh, did you guys go

1124
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: to like they we went to acting school together. Of course,

1125
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: was rejected from acting school. I repeat, rejected girl. Yeah,

1126
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna go in through through

1127
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: the under ground system and so I but everyone assumed

1128
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: that John and I had gone to college together and

1129
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: we're long friends, and then we were always kind of

1130
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: en humiliated we met last year, you know, and so

1131
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: we because we also when we met, it was that

1132
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: psychotic thing of like kind of having like a shared

1133
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: sensibility or like we're like fully falling in love, like

1134
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: it was falling in love, and we thought it looks

1135
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: like it will be good on that. Yeah, I didn't

1136
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: know my and I can say that now, but but yeah,

1137
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: that thank you for referencing the pilot. That was hollywoods

1138
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood's tough. You know. They tell you a we're going

1139
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: to give you. I call myself that that was not

1140
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: it was. Let's get the Gemini counter up here. But no,

1141
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, I say this for the listener. If you

1142
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: think about moving to Hollywood, just be careful. Tells you

1143
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: the moon. It's sweetheart. They say you're going to be

1144
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: available the next big thing. I'll pick up your pilot.

1145
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: I know, next next next big thing. That's Sandy Kenyon.

1146
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: That man's doing. I want to quote to you because

1147
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: it's just it's just reverberated for years at this point,

1148
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: but the wonderful scene of like the dinner party actually

1149
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: happening and the conversation being wild, but at one point

1150
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: your character goes, I forget what leads with the lead

1151
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: up into into this line is but it's like, um,

1152
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, like like like in linguistics, you don't have

1153
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: the word, you don't have the concept. You know. Oh

1154
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: my god, that's such a genius, just like way to

1155
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: like I don't know, um, just put a cap on

1156
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: like this wild run of like dialogue from this person

1157
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: and then and then and then but then that that

1158
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: did like sort of light up something. I mean where

1159
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, that that is like what

1160
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: linguistics is. And oh I've truly it's so nice to

1161
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: hear you talk about it, because I I forget and

1162
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, our hearts break and we have

1163
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: to pick up the pieces, you know, we get her

1164
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: and then for lucky we get lucky again. Yeah, oh yes,

1165
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: yeah we will. I mean yeah, no, of course, and

1166
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: you know the joy of creation. Cut the mic cut

1167
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: the mic got lost it no, but it's um, yeah,

1168
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: we're yeah, we're trying to make something else. That of

1169
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: course also was appended due to covid um. But you know,

1170
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: we keep going. We keep going in this industry and

1171
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: in this world, and you'll always have each other. And

1172
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: also and the thing about it is like when you're

1173
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: trying to do this, you realize that never ends. Like

1174
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: the pitch process. It's like so like I'm pitching something

1175
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: right now, and I swear to God, I wake up,

1176
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: I wake up. The first thing I do want to

1177
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: open my eyes to sight. No, no, no, I don't

1178
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: want to do it the eternal. It's just because you

1179
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: feel like, um, like I still I feel like they

1180
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: often like go fine and then whatever you move on,

1181
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: but like I never know, Like like you think like, oh,

1182
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna have to pitch something like what am

1183
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: I in marketing? It's like no, no, no. That happens

1184
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: literally all the time in the in the biz. And

1185
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: it's you never really know because you can't see yourself

1186
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: like you're not you're not hearing yourself doing it. It's

1187
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: just it's such a heady you earlier, I was so grateful.

1188
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: You also referenced five five, which thank you, thank you,

1189
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: And actually I should say here this is a scoop.

1190
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 1: This has not been announced yet um because it's behind

1191
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: it's been behind a paywall, which is in literal and

1192
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: possible amount of money to play, be easier to pay

1193
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: twenty nights and exactly where you're like, so it's basically free,

1194
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: but it's not and I have to enter in something

1195
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: like the paywall will soon be lifted to when anyone

1196
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: can watch it. It's going to be free, so hopefully

1197
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: then some people will we'll be able to enjoy. But

1198
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say in that Christ and Johnston and

1199
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: like it was in we were lucky to have her

1200
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: in an episode of five five and which John and

1201
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: I were playing actors and she's an acting teacher and

1202
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: she was John's acting teacher in real life. Yes, Oh

1203
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: my god, I think maybe it was Atlantic that lives

1204
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: in the file cabinets in my brain. That's one of

1205
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: the I like fell in love with John, Like was

1206
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: like him telling me like incredible stories, like just doing

1207
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: her and like saying and she we shot that it

1208
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: was like a very crazy shoot. We had like almost

1209
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: no money and it was very chaotic, and she just

1210
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: like we didn't have that much time, and she just

1211
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: delivered the most beautiful monologues about like the nature of acting,

1212
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: and it was like hell that the whole thing couldn't

1213
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: be an hour, like it was just and I remember,

1214
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember if this this didn't I don't think

1215
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: ever make it into the final cut. But she talks about,

1216
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, how she was a huge star, she was

1217
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: on Third Rock from the Sun and she was you know,

1218
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: and then she talks about, you know, wanting to kill herself,

1219
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: like she was deeply depressed and kind of how hard

1220
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: it was. But then she talks about the biz and

1221
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: she's like, there's no joy in this industry. There's only

1222
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: a relief, which I was like, oh, that's so true.

1223
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: And you're like chasing chase and you're like okay, and

1224
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: then you're just kind of and and hearing her talking

1225
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: just like there's only you're just waiting to be relieved. Yeah. Wow,

1226
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: that's so we have to pull joy from other things

1227
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: like friends and family, coming in a living right, getting

1228
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: the melon right if you're lucky, setting it back with grace,

1229
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: and and then buying around for the whole the whole restaurant.

1230
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. I longed for that, Yeah, to

1231
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: be able to walk it. You know what, Sometimes I

1232
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: think like a really sort of it's pretty old school

1233
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: and even a little sleazy, but like if anyone ever

1234
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: did it to me, I would not be mad. Someone

1235
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: sending over a drink, Oh my god, someone sending over

1236
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: this from the gentleman in the white suit. Has this

1237
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: happened to either of you ever. One of the coolest

1238
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: things I've ever done is when I was in high school,

1239
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: I was at a diner that I saw that I

1240
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: always go to my friends and I and there was

1241
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: like a hot guy there, and I sent him a

1242
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: single Friday across and then it was like washing like

1243
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: this over and like point at me, and I was like,

1244
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean like topping him from across the room. And

1245
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: then of course, like not a word was exchanged. I mean,

1246
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: it was a joke for my friends, but to have

1247
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: that bravery, I think about that now, I'm like, I

1248
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: can't believe I did that. That's that's phenomenal. No, I've

1249
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: never been sent a drink from across the room. Tragically,

1250
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: I sent what a friend didn't know I was in

1251
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: the restaurant and I sent over just like a rude beer,

1252
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: just just as a funny joke, and the waitress spilled

1253
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: it on the table. She was like, this is from

1254
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: oh my god. I'm so oh my god. They didn't

1255
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: know it was coming be it was like what it was.

1256
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: It was like that thing. It was like an Applebee's, truly,

1257
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: and it was such a chaotic moment. And I don't

1258
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: know if she ever got out like it's from that

1259
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: kid over there, like it's just just a spill of

1260
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: a random drink that was riving at the table. She

1261
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: sort of got through the sentence. But that's the thing.

1262
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: Here's here's another thing with drinks. They get spilled too often.

1263
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: Class can rarely contain no, no, no, I think it's time.

1264
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: It might be time. So yeah, but this is when

1265
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: it really gets started, to be honest. So this is

1266
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: this is where it starts a kick in. This is

1267
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, And this will be your

1268
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: first what that's literally not right? I feel okay, but

1269
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: but this is listen, we we have our whole. It's

1270
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: so true and not would that the anesthesia actually goes okay?

1271
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: And can I say one before we get into this,

1272
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: can I say one more thing? You know, Kate, as

1273
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, this morning we had an earthquake, So oh

1274
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: my god, are you both okay? Didn't did you feel it?

1275
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: This morning? I woke up. I woke up completely nude,

1276
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: as I often sleep, and I was like, do I

1277
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: have to go get on a big shirt in case

1278
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: I have to run into the street. But then I

1279
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: was like, you don't run into you don't run into

1280
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: the street. But it lasted long enough that the shaking

1281
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: was continuous where I was like, do I it was

1282
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: like an eleven second thing. It was like it was

1283
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: like an eleven second thing. And eventually my famously always

1284
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: missed the earthquakes like they happened, and like, I'm like, oh, really,

1285
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: like all my friends will be on a group text

1286
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: like you feel that one whoa scary hated that, etcetera.

1287
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I didn't feel it this time.

1288
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: Fully woke up because I felt it. It was like

1289
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: eleven seconds of it was like a four point oh um,

1290
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I thought to myself. Yeah, I thought to myself, Oh,

1291
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen when I'm under anesthesia. That's

1292
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: when we're going to get the earthquake. And I'm just

1293
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a flopping anesthetic corpse while everyone else that

1294
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 1: the hospitals are on wheels, Matt, they're on isn't rollers?

1295
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a real thing? Yes, they're on rollers,

1296
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be literally, there's no one you'd rather

1297
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: be than a hospital during an earthquake, but particularly under anesthesia,

1298
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: because then you won't know what's happening, and then you

1299
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: wake up and they go, you're never gonna believe it's sweetheart.

1300
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna be fine. You're gonna You're gonna

1301
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: be totally fine. I feel it in my bones, and

1302
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: and it's always scary, you know, it's you know, it's

1303
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: like why kids don't want to go to sleep because

1304
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a suspecter of death. But you're

1305
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: not going to die. I feel so confident I'm not

1306
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: going to and you're gonna have reliefs then you won't

1307
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: have to have this. You know, it's ultimate. And I mean,

1308
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: like literally, it is. This thing in my nose is

1309
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: the bane of my existence, and it must go. So

1310
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: it's finally happens. Lived many of these years with me,

1311
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: and I constantly I'm talking about it, and so it

1312
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: needs to go. But I did just like I had

1313
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: to be honest about it on the pod because what

1314
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: if I don't come back next week and they say

1315
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: it's a rhinal plastic gone wrong. I refuse to have

1316
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: that be the narrative. I had to be the one

1317
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: to say it, Okay, you're ahead of ahead of it.

1318
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: It's it's the kid. It's the kid logic of of

1319
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: just putting out like the worst case scenarios that as

1320
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,879
Speaker 1: as its own proofing insurance policy if it not happening exactly,

1321
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: it's me. It's I'm earthquake proofing this situation. I read

1322
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: all about this morning because I mean, like I said,

1323
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: I'm in that doomsday Google sort of mindset. So I

1324
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: did sort of google for the very first time the

1325
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: Big One, and I sort of found out all about

1326
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: what will happen when we get the Big One. I

1327
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: started listening to the Big One podcast. I got twenty

1328
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: minutes and I was like, this is so upsetting and disturbing.

1329
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: I can't live my life with this information. I can't. Also,

1330
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: i will die with my neighbors. Like I'm like, I'm not.

1331
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm not a fighter in that way, Like I'm not. Yes,

1332
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: of course, have water, do the thing, you know, know

1333
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: how to shut off the I'll do the bare minimum,

1334
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: But you am I. We can't devote our lives to

1335
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: to to protecting ourselves against something like that. Really, I

1336
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: mean truly, I become full God at that point. I'm

1337
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: just like take me like it's like if if that's

1338
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, because I'll just I'll just a

1339
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: briefly paraphrase something that happened in the podcast. It was

1340
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: so horrifying. Was there's a woman in it who's obsessed

1341
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: with the Big One or some psychotic earthquake. She was

1342
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: in one something. She's like, it was a huge thing

1343
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: in her life, maybe she lost someone in an earthquake,

1344
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: something crazy. And then one day she's in and she

1345
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: was actually, I'm aborting this because I truly forgot it.

1346
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: It's like, the point is she found herself amidst a

1347
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: huge earth and it was like, so it's like, you

1348
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: can live your life to find by fear and stuff,

1349
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: and then it just happened to you exactly, we can't

1350
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: and but and then also my I know somebody who

1351
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: works for FEMA, not to Brad and um, but they

1352
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: told me that they worked in San Francisco or the

1353
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: Bay Area, and that like, for example, one of the

1354
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: numbers is they're like when the big one hits, if

1355
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: when it hits, there will be between twenty tho and

1356
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: forty thou people in elevators trapped. So that's a number

1357
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: that they know, Like the people that are elevators alone

1358
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: are going to be a crisis that we can't get to.

1359
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: So it's like we're hanging on you know what's crazy

1360
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: about you know what's crazy about a phone? It will happen. Yes,

1361
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: here's my feeling. Hundred years will be gone the next

1362
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's like years again. This is part of

1363
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: my research today too. It's like push it onto them

1364
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 1: like a hundred years from now. It's just sp real um,

1365
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: but it's it's true, like it's really gonna be that

1366
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: I saw, like this is how deep it went, Like

1367
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: I saw like a visio. It's like a visual like

1368
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: um sort of simulation of what it would looks like.

1369
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: And it was truly like when a kid is like

1370
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: at a bar mitzpidanza, like where that was that? Whatever

1371
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: this is? That was the earth, that's the plates. No,

1372
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: it's it's really bad, but we just have to get

1373
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: a little water. You know, how to turn off your

1374
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: you're don't run because they said if you run during say,

1375
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: you're going to break your legs and ship or something

1376
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: flies off the thing and hits you in the head.

1377
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: I remember because I was in bed and I remember

1378
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: reading that what they say, if you're in bed to

1379
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: do is to roll into your stomach, so that takes

1380
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: two minutes and then roll onto your stomach and then

1381
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: you protect the back of your neck. So in that moment,

1382
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, if the shaking continues or if

1383
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: it gets greater. I'm just gonna, you know, and cry

1384
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: into the pillow and yeah, it's fine. What's crazy, though,

1385
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: is that it is regional, like it didn't have to

1386
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: be us if we didn't live in this fucking city.

1387
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: It's so sci fi you just have to go, oh God,

1388
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: and and but then is it even worth pointing out

1389
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: that the dark reason why you guys are in that

1390
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: city is for this industry? Toph who's gonna say no

1391
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: to me anyway? Why am I risking at all? All? No?

1392
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: I think it's you just have to, you know, we

1393
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: we have to make our shows, and it's worth it

1394
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: for the place in the weather, you know what I mean.

1395
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: It's just like I need try humid, etcetera. Um, anyway,

1396
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so, honey. And truly I

1397
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Earthquakes, No, you're it's it's just

1398
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: not over, okay. No, No, I got excited. I was

1399
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: like I almost forgot hello when you said that this

1400
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: is not I mean, we've reached the summit. This summits

1401
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: really the climax, the emotional climax, spiritual climax. Um, I

1402
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, which is of course a minute

1403
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: long sort of um feverish rant really about something in

1404
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: culture that is not it and we don't like and

1405
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: we have to we feel compelled to speak about even

1406
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: and there's really been so much to talk about bowen.

1407
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: But um, I do think I have what a good

1408
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: topical one for me? Anyway? Oh my god, thank god

1409
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: yours is topical, because mine is certainly like topical for me.

1410
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: But you know, well's still topical. Okay, this is um

1411
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers is I don't think so. I have in

1412
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: the clock and it's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Anesthesia,

1413
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: diet restrictions. Let me tell you what. You can't eat fish?

1414
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm fucked my favorite food fish, hon. I so, my

1415
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: mother's coming in for the surgery. I make a great

1416
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: um two person reservation for us at Yama Shiro, this

1417
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: incredible sort of you know, Japanese restaurant right by my house.

1418
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: I look at the menu, all sea food. Now I

1419
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: have to cancel. I don't think so, honey. Also, you

1420
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: can't eat potatoes, what the fuck? You can't eat vegetables?

1421
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: What the hell? Nothing? Nothing fiber. Maybe I'm over doing

1422
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: this and just kind of going for it. But also

1423
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, surgery in general. You're gonna

1424
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: cut into me with that, you honestly. Also, I don't

1425
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: think so honey, anesthesia. This is people's whole job. Let

1426
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: me say something. It sounds like something you can get

1427
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: pretty bored out doing and make a mistake because you're

1428
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: sitting there, just like toddling levers. You don't know me,

1429
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: You don't know my body. I don't think so honey

1430
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: that I can't eat or d a goddamn cocktail aforehand, honey,

1431
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: I can't smoke reefer. I don't think so honey. This

1432
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: is I didn't even really get to the meat and

1433
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 1: potatoes shocked. I had no idea. Oh, when you see

1434
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,520
Speaker 1: the list of things you avoid a diet rich and seafood,

1435
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: Avoid fibrous foods, avoid a document sent to me by

1436
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: doctor by my doctor's office. Alright, alright, alright, and let

1437
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: me tell you something I could have done. I don't

1438
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: think so honey, Captain, I mean falcon I win our soldier,

1439
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: because nothing's happening on that and I could have done

1440
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, um Final Fours because on

1441
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: reality shows, I don't like a final four. I think

1442
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: we need to do a final to that's that's from

1443
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: Justin to Justin and Kelly. That's what we need. But

1444
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: I feel like this is just taken over my life

1445
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: in such a way where I have to say and

1446
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: speak out about the anesthesia diet restrictions. I mean, because

1447
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,560
Speaker 1: get this, if you eat within eight hours of doing anesthesia,

1448
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: that food is going in your lung starling deer. Oh,

1449
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna be breathing in your food like it's always all.

1450
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: This is something that I think you up on poog.

1451
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: Why food isn't in our lungs more? I don't understand.

1452
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: And when you're choking on something, when you when you

1453
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: inhale and you went down the wrong pipe, well what pipe?

1454
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: And where to go? Oh it's down the wrong pipe.

1455
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: It's really crazy straight to the heart. Well, if you

1456
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: ever tell you something, if you want to be breathing

1457
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: in some food going to anesthesia, oh god, that's that's

1458
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: absolutely nightmarish. But you're gonna be completely fine. You're gonna

1459
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,520
Speaker 1: have some you can't have vegetables. It was like avoid

1460
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: fibrous food you eat. I literally was like what my

1461
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: mom was like, Well, I don't want you eating get

1462
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: anything fried. I'm like, girlfriend, the list is so long.

1463
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: It's like what I guess I'm gonna eat like um,

1464
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: like starches, like carbs, but pasta and here's and here

1465
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: we are in l A. They tell you to avoid

1466
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: carbs and then you have l A. I'm also you

1467
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: know what else I never said about, like the three

1468
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: week recovery period where I'm just gonna be sitting in

1469
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: my apartment like just like just like the stagnancy. Anyway, listen,

1470
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: this is the best time this could possibly be happening, right,

1471
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Yeah, it's it's true.

1472
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: And and you finish. Yeah, you're you're between things. You're

1473
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna watch My mother will be here. We already had

1474
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: a fight. She was like wi she called and she

1475
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: was like, I'm coming and I'm staying on a cot

1476
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: in your living room. I was like, first of all,

1477
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: the word caught like air I must and I was like,

1478
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: it's not big enough. I was like, for eleven days, mother,

1479
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the question I sent a snuggle. I

1480
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: sense some people are gonna be snuggling, so I hope

1481
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: can we end the stigma around snuggling with mom? Oh?

1482
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: I literally curl up in the bed in any chance

1483
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: I get. I love, I love, I still do, just

1484
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: like a little sneak up and kiss around the cheek

1485
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: and squeeze her. M Um, well we do think so honey,

1486
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: moms and the cuddling of them. But I'll tell you

1487
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: what we don't think, so honey, whatever and Yang is

1488
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna say right now, so um this is his I

1489
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Are you ready? Bow? I'm ready

1490
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: good because your time starts now. I don't think so, honey,

1491
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: physical keys, it is this weight that we all carry

1492
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: with us, and it is it's this it's this crazy

1493
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: like Sisiphian like way of like having to like sort through.

1494
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like it's like stuff that you have to like

1495
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: sort through and like you have to carry the knowledge

1496
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: of like what you have with you all the time.

1497
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: And I find it to be very very very crazy,

1498
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: Like I need other cerebral real estate for other things

1499
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: I could be. I could like I could I could

1500
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: remember the movies that Cameron Diaz has been in and

1501
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 1: and just and like knowing that she was a prestige

1502
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: actress at one point, like I just think, Key's I

1503
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: know this is seconds like bringing up like this quotitian thing,

1504
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: but like, I really don't I welcome like the surveillance

1505
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: state as far as it left enter buildings with just

1506
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: a phone or um a little a little bluetooth action.

1507
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: And so I've been saying track me, daddy for years.

1508
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't care. I used to think I had an

1509
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: inch o I look at me. I belonged to an

1510
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: interesting subculture, and my Discover weekly knows me so so

1511
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: specifically I am nothing like that. They already know me

1512
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: taking well, you know, you know what they're going to

1513
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: start doing everywhere is the eye recognition. So it's like

1514
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: that thing of like how your phone doesn't like when

1515
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: you stare at it and unlocks apparently like you know

1516
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:55,919
Speaker 1: whose Disney World and Disneyland, of course, the most forward

1517
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: thinking minds the imagineers have thought up a world where

1518
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: you can just it's like not gonna be ticketing. It's

1519
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: like that you can kind of just like I and

1520
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: also get this and get this. This is where I heard.

1521
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: It's heading that based on things you've done in the park,

1522
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 1: certain characters will know to interact with you a certain

1523
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: way because the eye scanning is going to have followed you.

1524
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: So this is something they were talking about for the

1525
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is, however you did on the

1526
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: certain Millennium Falcon Ride, if you scored a lot of

1527
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: points or whatever. Because it's like a video game, you

1528
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: would be approached by people in the park being like

1529
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: you are a great warrior, you're a great space fighter

1530
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: and we respect you, um, and that they would know

1531
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: Kate is Kate is mortified. I went really dark with this. Yeah, no,

1532
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: this is very dark. That's that's mostly I'm just like

1533
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: I just honestly, I just got sad because I was like, oh, yeah,

1534
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: because now games are about Star Wars or something, you know.

1535
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: Like I was like the teacups, like yeah, well, I

1536
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: don't know when the last time you've been to Disneyland is,

1537
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: but they really take in a hard right turn into

1538
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: video game screen land. I've essentially never been huge wound.

1539
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: It was a huge childhood wound because my parents never

1540
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: took me Disneyland. I went once. I pretended to be

1541
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: diabetic because I had seen it in the babysitters club

1542
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: and terrified and my friend's birthday and then the mom

1543
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: flipped out and was like your parents, and tell me

1544
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: you were diabetic, and then I was like and then

1545
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: I tried to carry on and I was like, I'm not.

1546
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: It's like it was fortifying. And then I went for

1547
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: senior night in high school. But you know, my friends

1548
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: and I were cool, so we just got stoned. We're like,

1549
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: we're not going on there. But the hack is be stoned.

1550
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: But go on the rides. Yeah, yeah, I would love to.

1551
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. I mean, we the thing is

1552
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: you go, you're spinning around and letting it happen to you.

1553
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's served alcohol that they do now, so

1554
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: they've just this is this is my this is how

1555
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: you know? This is more doomsday googling me knowing where

1556
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: they serve alcohol. And Disneyland they serve it at the

1557
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: Blue by You now, which is at the restaurant at

1558
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: the parts of the Caribbean ride. So there you go. Wow,

1559
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: it does sound fun. I'm actually kind of surprised that

1560
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: you haven't been. I almost went a few years ago,

1561
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: and then I didn't. And that's where that ends. You know.

1562
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: Jacqueline like Disney, I know, I think you're right. I

1563
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 1: should ask her if she would like to go. You know,

1564
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: we were once tagged and they said, um, Bowen is

1565
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: the Kate and Matt is the Jacqueline, which is why

1566
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe she likes Disney. Oh my god,

1567
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did I miss that tag? I

1568
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: always searched my name every morning. Anyning um that shocked?

1569
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Someone said that, Wow, that's beautiful. Beautiful. By the way,

1570
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I'm terrified for my I

1571
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, like I really blacking my brain.

1572
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: Terrified too strong a word, but in fact, just like, no,

1573
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: I know you. I hate myself for even see this.

1574
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: It's below you to have to hear that, to have,

1575
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: for you to have to encounter my fear of not

1576
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: being interesting enough, for funny enough. Has anyone ever I'm

1577
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: not saying that I'm going to do this, but has

1578
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: anyone this is probably cheating, splitting them minute into two?

1579
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: The form has been ways. Yeah, of course, has anyone

1580
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: ever done this? Really? Stradulating over here? What's what is this?

1581
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm like COVID. I blame the year of isolation. It

1582
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: did make me a more anxious, careful person, which I

1583
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: love for me. I know, No, it actually has done that.

1584
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: It's it's horrifying. Okay, I'm just gonna do one. And

1585
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of something I mentioned earlier a little bit

1586
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: in different continents. Right, well, this okay, paper lance, I

1587
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Prosecco,

1588
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: I don't. I for years was hypnotized by the culture,

1589
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: and I thought that I wanted prosecco. I thought that

1590
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: I needed it. I thought that if it's bubbles equal prosecco.

1591
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know at that point. I was young.

1592
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: Champagne is a certain certain retail France, right, all champagne,

1593
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, prosecco. It wasn't until I would say,

1594
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half ago I started to go,

1595
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 1: guess what, I don't like prosecco because it's sweet and

1596
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,919
Speaker 1: the bubbles aren't dense enough, and I don't want prosecco,

1597
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: and I'd rather start the meal with give me a comma,

1598
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: give me a cremont, give me anything but the prosecco.

1599
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's an invention of bourgeois,

1600
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's this invention that was forced

1601
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: at our throats, and we're all hypnotized and we think

1602
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: that it's good, but it's not. And the flavor it's not,

1603
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's not good. I'm sorry, it's just

1604
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 1: not good. And I'm not gonna lie anymore. And going forward,

1605
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: I won't be seduced by by the eight dollar prosecco

1606
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 1: and I will just go straight for something else. And honestly,

1607
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: I rather I'm not even getting that's one minute. I

1608
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: want to tell you something I have done. I don't

1609
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: think so honey prosecco because I don't think so honey prosecco.

1610
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: I hate it and it is and oh being bad

1611
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: with prosecco, no or not know. What you're doing is

1612
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: getting corporation. You're getting a headacheade getting and you don't

1613
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: want two glasses of prosecco. I mean, it's just I'm sorry,

1614
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's sweet, it's sweet, and I also,

1615
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to people there's a thing about sweetness,

1616
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: like no, they're cond be sweet undertones and wine and

1617
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: it's gorgeous. But this is not what I want. It's

1618
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: not about the sweetness for me. It is about the

1619
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: fact that there's something about prosecco where you're like, I'm

1620
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to have a second glass. No,

1621
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't think if you're listening to this and you've

1622
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: had a second glass of prosecco, something, something's the mass,

1623
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: something's call someone, call your treatment. What's what I feel

1624
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: is like like prosecco is supposed to be like your

1625
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: hands in it. It's like a celebration. No, who are

1626
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: we celebrating the big prosecco. That's what it is. Also,

1627
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 1: can you say it's so fizz forward? Oh god, I

1628
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: feel like there'sn't enough fizz. I feel like it's always flat.

1629
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: It's like falling out of the it's it's just drink

1630
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: to be bubbling. I'm sorry, and I say that as

1631
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: someone who likes you. I'm not that much. I want bubbles,

1632
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: and I'm and I won't do it. I can't. I

1633
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know, even Champagne, I'm something like, because you know

1634
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: what it is, I've kind of had prosecco and now

1635
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: I have that sort of disdain for it, so that

1636
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: even the nice bubbling whites, I'm like, I can't. I'm

1637
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: here to bring you back to bubbles, back to Cremont,

1638
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: back to Cova, back to a gorgea you know, you

1639
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: keep you keep sort of saying cova, and I'm like,

1640
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's the Maybe Cova is the way I think.

1641
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: I think doesn't have Spanish, but the Cova is the way.

1642
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: It's the way, let's do it. And I hate that

1643
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm quoting a fred Armist and character from an SNL sketch,

1644
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: but this is Regie. And at one point it's this

1645
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: living room set up. Someone brings up prosecco and then

1646
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Fred Harmison as this woman goes, what are we celebrating?

1647
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: Me average, oh my god, that's hysterical, And here I am.

1648
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 1: I didn't even know prosecco. I thought I was somehow

1649
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: being a revolutionary No no, no no no, and I know

1650
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: you're you're not. I don't feel insulted. I'm just saying

1651
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 1: that I feel honestly that I found yes. And I'm

1652
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: saying I I felt like when when you said it,

1653
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And I feel like

1654
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: people looked at me like I had two crazy heads

1655
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: when I did it. And so now to sort of

1656
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: like hear a sister sort of rage on about prosecco,

1657
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I must tell her that I feel

1658
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 1: this way. I'm so glad to hear that you that

1659
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: you also feel that way so bad and no more.

1660
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, I know people that like exclusively drink prosecco,

1661
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: and I have a level of distrust for them. It's sinister.

1662
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: It's you, you know, I have to they don't know

1663
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: what they want, is that they're afraid of what they want.

1664
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: There's that, there's that genius You've got to listen to,

1665
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: because it is just these two people who are just

1666
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's they're having the most engaging and

1667
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: this sounds so like whatever, but like the most engaging conversation.

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01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: It's it's fantastic. I'm thank you. I mean, that's that's

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01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: deeply flattering. My must just say often imitated, never duplicated.

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01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Okay here and they're they're trying to be Cape blank.

1671
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: The kids are trying to be Calan. They're not doing

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01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 1: it like them. Oh my god, this was this truly

1673
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: lifted me. I'm soaring. I'm taking this into the evening

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01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: and i just feel like I'm looking at a bowl

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01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: of citrus and I'm thinking, are you, oh my California.

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01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel I feel really I feel bright.

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01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: You really restored me to be looking at a bowl

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01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: of citrus. Is it fresh? Yeah? Oh, to think and

1679
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: think and think about this morning when that fresh bull

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01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 1: crust of shaking. What beautiful nature. We have to love

1681
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: each other because we're shaking out here. We're shaking out here,

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01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: um and so listen to Poog. Obviously are our sister pod.

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01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 1: We are so happy to have you here on the show.

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01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you this was I was so thrilled

1685
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 1: to do it. You're both so funny and great and

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01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,520
Speaker 1: I just had truly had a blast and for symmetry.

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01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: So for we've had Jacqueline on for symmetry, we'll have

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01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: we had you on, and then we'll have CROO. Would

1689
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: love a little crossover thing down the line. Right before

1690
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: we logged on, I was tagged, and I too, always

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01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: check my tags. I was tagged in a thing that

1692
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: said where is the poo last culture crossover? Oh so

1693
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 1: sweet it happened that night. You should do a crossover

1694
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: live event in Vegas just if anyway, if any like

1695
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: deep pocketed producers are out there, they are, we would

1696
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 1: love to do it in Vegas. Host does in Vegas

1697
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: hostess that you know, like the Bellaggio or whatever. What

1698
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: I want to do is us for in front of

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01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: the phones as they dance and us talk and no

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01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: one be able to hear us because of the waters

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01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: are going. I think it'd be great. Imagine yeah dance,

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01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Um so listen bou famously, Uh we do end every

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01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: episode with a song and uh take it away, shack

1704
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 1: it up a chick. Hey, just gonna tell you's gonna

1705
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: play play and I'm just gonna shake shake it up,

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01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: chick it up. Bye. Thank you Taylor for that one. Bye.