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Speaker 1: Mmmm. Welcome to the State of the Lakers podcast, this

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Speaker 1: time on a Monday instead of a Friday. Ross, how

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Speaker 1: was your weekend? Man? It was good. It was good.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers picked up two games, so they went a

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Speaker 1: little two game win straight here look out the rest

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Speaker 1: of the league. But yeah, it was good. Trade deadline

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Speaker 1: went and past, and now we're onto the to the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season, and I think for the

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Speaker 1: most part, with the Drummond signing that the UH the

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Speaker 1: team is more or less what they're going to be.

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Speaker 1: There's still an opportunity potentially to pick up somebody with

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Speaker 1: UH with this last remaining UM roster spot that they

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Speaker 1: have available, although I think they do have to cut

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Speaker 1: somebody for that. But more or less, this is that

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Speaker 1: time of year where things get fun because there's less

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Speaker 1: conjecture about what teams can be and more just talking

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Speaker 1: about what they are, which is more fun. But thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for being patient about what happened

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Speaker 1: last Friday. Like I'm a man of my routine and

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Speaker 1: I know Rogers too, and we were looking forward to

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Speaker 1: talking on Friday, just I had something come up. I

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Speaker 1: have a job that has a lot of random stuff

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Speaker 1: that can pop up on short notice. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys being patient, but we're gonna talk about everything today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Andre Drummond and uh and what

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Speaker 1: he is going to be able to bring to the

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Speaker 1: Lakers and just some of the dishonest discourse that has

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Speaker 1: to talk about Raj disagreed with me uh vehemently about

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested. We deliberately did not talk about it

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Speaker 1: over the last four days so that we could hash

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Speaker 1: it out on here. I have my thoughts, he has his.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where that goes. And then we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about just you know, what the team looks like right now, uh,

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Speaker 1: in this stretch without Lebron and a D because we're

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Speaker 1: at the end. Um. So, but let's start, tim And

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Speaker 1: so to be clear, you know, uh, Andre Drummond, there

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Speaker 1: The facts are, he's the best like uh, physical specimen, defensive, rebounding, uh,

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Speaker 1: that just watched because of his inconsistency. That's what they'll

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Speaker 1: tell you. Now. The flip side of that, though, is

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Speaker 1: is when he's on, when he's actually giving you the effort,

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Speaker 1: he is unbelievably physically dominant, and there's something to be

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to evaluate him as a star, I

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Speaker 1: think that's worthy criticism because now you're saying, like, he

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Speaker 1: to sincere relevance. That's that's true, that would be fair criticism.

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Speaker 1: But within the context of him joining the Lakers were

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Speaker 1: not evaluating him as a star. We're evaluating him as

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Speaker 1: arguably what the fourth most important player on this team

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Speaker 1: if you look at the two best teams he was on,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he was bad in those two seasons

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Speaker 1: when they made it to the playoffs, but the context

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Speaker 1: the few games that he was in Washington were saying

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Speaker 1: And you know I saw that stad yesterday that the

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Speaker 1: And to me that that, to me, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: or may not materialize into something. And I just saw

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00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: it as a potential missed opportunity. And I'm worried that

430
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 1: there will be a late round playoff series, whether whether

431
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: it's against the Clippers or the nets where you're gonna

432
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: be looking at it like man like Kyle Lowry might

433
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: have been enough to get this done and and that's

434
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: that that would be my concern. Yeah, to be clear, like,

435
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't hate Kyle Lowry. I think he's an awesome,

436
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, basketball player. I think he's really good, even

437
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: at his age at thirty five, is a super effective

438
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: point guard, um all defense type point guard, hits threes,

439
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: can attack the basketball. That I just I don't like

440
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: the framing of it as the Lakers picked th HT

441
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: over Kyle Lowry, because I just don't think that's the case.

442
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 1: Th HD to me is the like straw that broke

443
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: the camel's back kind of thing. He's not the he's

444
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: not the actual weight that was put onto this trade, right,

445
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: But it's being frame that way. I mean credit to

446
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: whoever is framing it out there, because that is what

447
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: the framing has become. It's because oh my god, Lakers

448
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: picked t HD over Kyle Lowry. They must really believe, well,

449
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: they do believe in them. Lebron belives in them, Clutch

450
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: believes in them. But that wasn't the point of this

451
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: point is that the Lakers would have had to give up.

452
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: Because Kyle Lowry makes thirty million dollars a year. Lakers

453
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: don't have some trade exceptions, so they have to match

454
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: up to like some eighty or eighty percent of the salary.

455
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: They had to give up Dennis Shrewder who the Lakers.

456
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: I know the Lakers have their calms with Danny Green,

457
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: but they give up a starter, a finals level starter,

458
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: a first round pick for Dennis Shrewder who they're looking

459
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: to keep. Right this year, it was twenty seven young

460
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: point guard who's played really well next to the two

461
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 1: superstars k C. P Again, I know he's struggling right now,

462
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: but this is I'm gonna use your Tyler hero theory

463
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: right Like, he was really good in the playoffs. He

464
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: hit big shots. He was also a starter. So you

465
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: get to final start two starters who started on a

466
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: championship team plus and then you you throw in the

467
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: Lakers pretty much most prized. I don't like to call

468
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: players assets and possessions or whatever, but the Lakers the

469
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 1: most biggest trade piece right as Taylor Nord Tucker. There's

470
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: no qualms about that. That that's pretty clear. The Lakers

471
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: don't have many first round picks going forward. Th HD

472
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: has shown enough potential to even being thrown into Tyler

473
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: hero type talks shows a lot to me, right, I mean,

474
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: he's play he hasn't even played. He doesn't even played

475
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: forty games in a season yet, you know, and his

476
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: entire career, I don't think so um to show him

477
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: to be able to be in that is is a

478
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: big deal. And like, you throw Kyle Lowry on this

479
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: team right now, and you throw away you take those

480
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: three guards away, It's it's gonna be a really big struggle.

481
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean. And and also you don't know when Lebron

482
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: is coming back. You don't know if eighties coming back,

483
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: knock on, would they come back this year? But let's

484
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: say they don't come back healthy. Now, you gave you know,

485
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: all that up for Kyle Lowry to content with Marcusol

486
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe an unhealthy team around. It's just

487
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think he bridges the gap between them

488
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: and like Brooklyn, because that's what who we're talking about here, right,

489
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anyway anyone else in the

490
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: West really scares it with Clippers maybe, But and then

491
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: also those moves by Brooklyn. I mean, Blake Griffin, marcusology

492
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: are great. They're gonna be great for them. I just

493
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: don't think they pushed the margin of air enough or

494
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: you had to throw all these chips for Kyle Lowry,

495
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: who again, he's a great player, but he's thirty five, right,

496
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna turn thirty six going forward. Do you want

497
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: to pay him because he wants an extension? Did you

498
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: want to pay him another two years fifty million? Which

499
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: was gonna you were gonna have to do to keep him.

500
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: So I think all those factors into it. Um, I'm

501
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 1: glad they stayed. They stayed. Still, I feel like they

502
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: asking asking price was a little high. Maybe if it

503
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: was just Shrewder and KCP, then maybe, you know, we

504
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: can talk about it. But you know, I think that's

505
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: a that was a really tough thing for the Lakers

506
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: to throw in. And again, if they made the trade,

507
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have him at Kyle is an amazing player.

508
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: He pushes your ceiling up. I disagree how much higher

509
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: he pushes the ceiling up, but he does sush the

510
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: ceiling up a little bit. But in this season, with

511
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: no teams practicing, all this chaos of you know Covid

512
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: and you know Lebron and a d are out and

513
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's just hard to throw another ranch.

514
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: And I think this team deserves to show because in

515
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: the off season, if you remember, we talked about how

516
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: talented this roster was, right, and I just feel like

517
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: they should get a chance to kind of show that.

518
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: And I would have been sad if if they you know,

519
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: mortgage all that not mortgage, but if they just, you know,

520
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: decided to throw away that that chance of potential that

521
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: that we saw in the off season for for a

522
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: mid season for Kyle Lowry. So that's that's my case

523
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: on it. So again, I I understand where you're coming

524
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: from in the sense that if you frame it as

525
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: two final starters of first round draft pick and talent

526
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: Horton Truck Tucker for UH for Kyle Lowry, it seems

527
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: like an overpay. I get that. However, the way that

528
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: I would I would UH qualify all of that is

529
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: that a lot of time times, you know, like guys

530
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: who would be considered starters that UH in other situations

531
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: would be less valuable. So for instance, Danny Green and

532
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: Contavious Caldwell Pope succeed because they play next to Lebron

533
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: and a D. In large part, k CP was, you know,

534
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: a non impactful player for the Lakers before Lebron and

535
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: a D came aboard. Danny Green was kind of floundering

536
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: a bit in San Antonio before he ended up in

537
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Toronto in that awesome role in in the Lakers, in

538
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: that awesome role. And I'm not trying to undercut what

539
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: they do. I'm just saying like it's not as clear

540
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 1: cut as like, you know, as a more more like

541
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: significant starting role piece. Um kind of like the way

542
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Dennis Shutter is now where like he's a legitimate you know, uh,

543
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: the starting point guard in the NBA type of talent.

544
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: Now as far as the uh, the trade goes, you know,

545
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: when when we're quantifying Kyle Lowry's value, I think it's

546
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: it's more complicated than just Kyle Lowry is a little

547
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: bit better than Dennis Shooter. So but what that that

548
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: small gap that exists between Lebron and Dennis Shooter is

549
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: more magnified when you get into the playoffs. And the

550
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: way that I quantify that is like, you know, uh,

551
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Dennis shrewder um uh type of player has kind of

552
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: middled around on various teams that have made it to

553
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs and things along those lines.

554
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry was you know, the best player on a

555
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors team that had a couple of deep playoff

556
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: runs and has made a lot of of really really

557
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: big playoffs shots and uh, you know, for example, like

558
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: when you think about Kyle Lowry, you think about, you know,

559
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: the shop that he hit over. Gosh, who was it

560
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: that he made it over? I think it was Kemba

561
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Walker to to extend the series against the Celtics to

562
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Game seven last year. You think about, you know, the

563
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: NBA Finals Game six, him coming down and just going

564
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: like crazy in the first quarter and making a bunch

565
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: of shots to to get that a series off to

566
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: such a great start, or that game off to such

567
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: a great start. That's the kind of thing that happens

568
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: when you're that level of talent, even even though it's

569
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: just it's like tears. If you're setting up tears, you know,

570
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: you're putting your superstars in one tier, and then you're

571
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: putting your stars in the next tier, and then there's

572
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: like this third tier of like fringe stars, and then

573
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: there's like the Dennis Shrewder types, which are like in

574
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: that fourth tier, which is like above average starting NBA players,

575
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like a guy who on

576
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: any given night might go for but he's more of

577
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: just like a he's really good at specific things, but

578
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: he has these like clear flaws like Kyle Lowry is

579
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: in that next tier. And to me, those tears don't

580
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: mean as much in a regular season they seem weird

581
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: when you're talking about contract values and how much you

582
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: might pay somebody, but they make a significant difference in

583
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: a playoff series that that kind of thing is the

584
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: margin that might make up the difference between you, you know,

585
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: like I said, beating a team that you might be

586
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: overmatched against, like a Brooklyn Nets type of team. And

587
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: so my thing is like, it'll just be it'll be

588
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: sad in my opinion, if they get to Brooklyn and

589
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: they end up losing because there's a talent app and

590
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: then th HD develops into a borderline star, but then

591
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: Lebron ages out and you know, maybe a DS health

592
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: problems and then you're sitting there in the future and

593
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, we got th HT, but you know

594
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: this didn't work out like you're betting. Like, to me,

595
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: the bigger gamble is gambling on a young player's success

596
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: rather than gambling in the moment on the potential, the

597
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: potential to win a title. And I mean we're like, uh,

598
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of optimism surrounding the Laker fan base,

599
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: this idea that you know, they have enough to win two,

600
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: three more with a D and I'm one of those guys.

601
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that they can. But that is not guaranteed,

602
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: and just as easily it could end up being, you know,

603
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: a failure looking back and going like, man, the only

604
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: one one And that could be health related. That could be,

605
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: but it could also be based on stuff like this,

606
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: like not making the aggressive moves that you need to

607
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: in order to put them there. But I I for

608
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: the record, I see where you're coming from, and there's

609
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: there's also no guarantee that you could get a buyout guy.

610
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: And I would have been concerned if they only had

611
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: three guards. So I see, I see where you're coming from. Yeah,

612
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: and it looks like I mean, if you look at

613
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: the bio market, I mean, guards are just not you know,

614
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: you don't just get guards, and the bio market the

615
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: bio markets more a lot of centers and bigs, you

616
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: know that that get bought out, and I'm that very

617
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: much guards and that's just really tough to go into

618
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs with that low of a guard rotation and

619
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: a shrewder. He's not as good as Kyle Awry. I mean,

620
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: that's pretty clear. I feel like he's a He's an

621
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: above average starter. Kyle Lowry is probably an all all

622
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: star level kind of point guard, especially in the playoffs.

623
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: But you know, Kyle Alredy had his playoffs struggles as well.

624
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to attack on Kyle Lollery,

625
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: but like you know, there's a long time where he

626
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: was seen as a guy that doesn't play well in

627
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then obviously he broke through that barrier.

628
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Um after a couple of years he ran into a

629
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: lebron A lot to be honest with just kind d

630
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: of ironic there, But yeah, I see where you're coming from.

631
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: I think I think the trade would have been fine.

632
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: I think they would have won, and still I just

633
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: don't think their margin would have increased as much. Um

634
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: with Kyle Lowry. Um. He's also a different type of player,

635
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: is a guy who picks up for Cord. He's a

636
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: kind of more speed used attack, isolation ball handleyer type

637
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: of point guard. Um, Kyle Lowry is more still, I believe,

638
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: more of an off ball guard. I don't know if

639
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: you would agree with that. Um, he's okay, he's a

640
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: decent ploytmaker and he's a Kyler. Is a really good shooter. Yeah,

641
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: that's the part that he's a lot better. He's a

642
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: lot better shooter. Um, but I mean people come here

643
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: and can't shoot, so I'd be worried. I'd be worried

644
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: about that. But but yeah, no, he would have been great.

645
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: It's just again, the age kind of mean Lebron's a cyborg.

646
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean people are like, oh but Lebron's thirty five. Well,

647
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean using Lebron for you know, comparison metrics just

648
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: don't really match. That Guy's a guy's like a one

649
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: in a million kind of universe type of developer at

650
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: that age. You know, most cards at that age start

651
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: to fall. Chris Paul is not the same. And Chris

652
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Paul is still amazing, but he's not what he was

653
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: that now He's at like dirty five, three six, and

654
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: I'd worry about that with Lowry as well. But I

655
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: think you've been fine. They got him, but I was

656
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: really against it, and I'm glad that they that they stayed.

657
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: They still stay still. Yeah, And like like we said

658
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: at the very beginning, there's no point in dwelling on

659
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: it for too long. I mean, the reality is is

660
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: that the Lakers decided not to make the move, So

661
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: now they're committed to Dinner Shooter. Shooter is probably gonna

662
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: be here for the next four years after this one.

663
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Th HD is probably gonna sign uh his second deal

664
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: this summer, and he's probably gonna be around for a

665
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: long time. So this is what it is. And so

666
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: that means that you can, um uh, you can do

667
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: a better job of projecting this team forward because we

668
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: know what they are. And the nice thing is is

669
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a bunch of these tradeable contracts now

670
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: in the future because th HD is probably gonna sign,

671
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere in that ten to fifteen million dollar range,

672
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Alex Crusoe is probably gonna sign somewhere in the seven

673
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: to ten million dollar range. You know, Dinner Shooter is

674
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: probably gonna sign in the twenty to twenty two million

675
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: dollar range. So the Lakers in a way that they

676
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: haven't in the past, are gonna have a bunch more

677
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: of these like tradeable type of salaries that are at

678
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: these middle um you know, middle ground areas, and that's

679
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: going to give the Lakers more flexibility in the future

680
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: to be able to make trades that they weren't able

681
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: to make, uh this year. So you're not always tied down.

682
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: It just but but you're right. And and Dennis Shooter

683
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: he's different than Kyle Lowry, but he brings a lot

684
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: to the table that that that really helps his team.

685
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: And I still like their chances. I just you know,

686
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: part of this comes from the Brooklyn nets looks so

687
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: good man, Like they look so good. And you know,

688
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I was so taken aback by the LaMarcus Aldridge signing

689
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: because I thought he was the best of these big men,

690
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: that the best of these buyout guys that were available.

691
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: Because when you looked at all of the guys and

692
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: what they brought to the table, you know, you know,

693
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin I thought was bad on both ends. Like

694
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: I think he's a weak defensive player and a below

695
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: average offensive player. You know, LaMarcus Aldridge, I think, uh,

696
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: or excuse me, uh, you know, Andre Drummond, he had

697
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: his effort issues and and and there's some concern as

698
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: to whether or not, you know, he's one of the

699
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: worst finishers around the room and league and all this

700
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: other stuff. And LaMarcus Aldridge fell out of the rotation

701
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: in San Antonio because he couldn't defend. He was a

702
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: bad defensive player. But LaMarcus all and also because they're

703
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of going in on some youth, you know, but

704
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge is still like one of the best pick

705
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: and pop bigs in the league. And he literally terrifies

706
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: defenses when he pops and he's open, and he can

707
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: win your basketball games. And so I saw him as

708
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: as a as a huge pickup. And so when Brooklyn

709
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: got LaMarcus Aldridge, and they're already whooping everybody's ass without KD.

710
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Like literally, the the games that are close involved Kyrie

711
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: out and just hardened. And even then they're winning most

712
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: of those. I think they've won all of them but

713
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: one or two. So the Brooklyn Nets are out here

714
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: whooping everybody's ass. And you know, it's one thing to

715
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, we're bigger, we're more physical, we're

716
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat him. And don't get me wrong, like

717
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: I think the Lakers have a chance to beat them,

718
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: I really do. But you need every advantage and that's

719
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: and that's why I kind of was was pro that move.

720
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: But we've talked about it enough and and I think

721
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: we respect each other's opinions. We just disagree, which is fine. Um,

722
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about where the Lakers are

723
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: at right now, so we you know, the Shame's reported

724
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: after the trade deadline that a D is about two

725
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: weeks out, so that would put him about a week

726
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: from this Thursday, and that Lebron was at that point

727
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: three to five weeks out. So best case scenario, Lebron

728
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: in three weeks, Lebron in a D and two weeks. Uh.

729
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: My guess is that if Lebron is feeling better, they

730
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: may try to bring them both back together. We'll see

731
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: what ends up happening. Um yeah, you got a lot

732
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: of black for that. You got a lot of black

733
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: for that. I remember you said I would bring both

734
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: of them together. I just and my my whole thought

735
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: proces behind that was really simple. I just wanted them

736
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: to have it easy. I didn't like to me coming

737
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: back from an injury. You you have, like the the

738
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: reason why people get hurt, you know, for the most part,

739
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: is they know their body has a limitation, whether it's

740
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, me putting on weight because I didn't play

741
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: for two weeks and then I came back, and then

742
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, you're in a game, and all of a sudden,

743
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: you're like, I want to win this game, so you

744
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: push yourself a little bit further than you probably would

745
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: have if there weren't steaks, and then you end up

746
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: getting yourself hurt. And that's why I worry about with

747
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d S. They come back anyway, you uh,

748
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a situation where your competitive nature

749
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: kicks in and you end up and you end up

750
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: pushing yourself too hard and you get hurt. That was

751
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: the only the only reason behind that. But anyway, they're

752
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: gonna absolute bare minimum two more weeks without these guys.

753
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: A couple of things that I think are interesting. One,

754
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: they're still they're fifth in the league in defense since

755
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Lebron went out. Can you believe that? Uh? Now, a

756
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: little bit of context there. They have played two really

757
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: bad teams as of late. Um, but the flip side

758
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: of that is who is that they played that they

759
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: almost beat the other day, the one Philly, Like they

760
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: played really good defense against Philly, especially in the second half. Um.

761
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: So my, the the defense is still there, which is

762
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: what we expected. Uh. They're absolute dead last in offense

763
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: since Lebron went out, averaging just over one points per

764
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: one possessions. Uh. But there is there is a distinct

765
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: thing that they still bring to the table, which is

766
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: the compete on the defensive end of the floor. Um.

767
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of games that they could potentially

768
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: steal here on the Rise and as well, there's that

769
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: game against the Raptors and then there's a game against

770
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: the Kings. But it's like with them, with their inability

771
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: to score, I think it could get really ugly. But

772
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: what has been your big takeaway from watching them in

773
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: the last week without Lebron and Nydi? Yeah, So, like

774
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 1: I said before, like I'm trying to look for things

775
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: that we can take into the playoffs, right because right now,

776
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: looking at the scoreboard, to me doesn't really matter except

777
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: for these last two games that you needed to win

778
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: against the Kelvs and the Magic. However, ugly and however

779
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: close it was, you need to get those. But going forward,

780
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of his bucks. I think Clippers,

781
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: um heat all coming up, and those are just I mean,

782
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be favorite even close to any of these. So, uh,

783
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: the things I want to look at is like, the

784
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: defense is still there. They're still defending like hell, the

785
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: guards are really going after it. I thought, like Alex Ruzo,

786
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: he got a lot of black last night, but I

787
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: thought he domin They did that second quarter like his

788
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: defense was insane. He got a deflection on almost every play.

789
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: He was driving, kicking and all that. So the defense

790
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: is still there. Um. But the main thing I want

791
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: to look at the Shrewder Harold kind of to Matt game,

792
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: because I think that's the thing that we can take

793
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Right, that's the main part. All this

794
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: other stuff is gonna be moving all those other to

795
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: All those other players pretty much play specifically off Lebron

796
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: and a d right, even the shooters KCP, all those

797
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: dudes are gonna be playing off them. Shrewder and Harold,

798
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: the two guys that in a playoff series have to

799
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: be able to create offense together. They just they just

800
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: are I know Lebron and d are gonna be playing

801
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: most of the game, but just to have those two

802
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: start to build chemistry. We talked about it earlier that UM,

803
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: since Shrewder was starting and Harold was coming off the bench,

804
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: their minutes weren't really colliding right because they were a

805
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: Shooter was playing more with just Lebron on the floor,

806
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: and we we got into that. But now those two

807
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: are closing games. Last night they went to their treys

808
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: sugar pick and roll like four straight possessions. Um. They

809
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: have Shooter coming off like Iverson's cuts to to Harold,

810
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: uh Carold coming and screening and getting him on the role.

811
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I can see building every game,

812
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: like their chemistry with it. They're strying to understand where

813
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: each other wants the ball, where to find him. And

814
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: I think that's my main takeaway from this whole stretches.

815
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: I want those two to build as much chemistry as

816
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: they can together, and I think you're starting to see it.

817
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: They're trying to go to it. Shrewder looked as comfortable

818
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: as I've seen him last night, like he understood he

819
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: was the lead guy that he was going to be

820
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: able to just get any shot he wants. He did

821
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: enforced anything early. He started to take shots late and

822
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: got to the line. And you know, if you want

823
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: to command twenty two million dollars a year, this is

824
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: where you make your money from. You need to show

825
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: that you can win these type of games. And he

826
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: showed it last night that he was able to get comfortable.

827
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: But what are you seeing from from the from this stretch.

828
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: That's a good point. The uh, the the spamming of

829
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: actions that you could run when Lebron and a d

830
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: come back, that's a because that kind of thing just

831
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: takes time. Like I, I just you know, I'll give

832
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: you an example, like one of my duds in my wedding.

833
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: One of my good friends we played high school basketball together.

834
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: He ended up playing at the University of Arizona's name

835
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: is Matt and uh. Him and I, you know, after college,

836
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: we started playing in these men's leagues together and you

837
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: just we at first when we started playing together, we

838
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: just had no chemistry. We couldn't figure anything out. I

839
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: was I was a primary ball handler. He was like

840
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: a screen and roll guy, screening pop guy. Over the

841
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: course of years, him and I built a certain amount

842
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: of chemistry, and now it's like one of our most

843
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: sure fire plays that we can run. It's just getting

844
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: him an eye together and screening. That is the fact

845
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: that in any sort of unorganized basketball environment, they can't

846
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: guard screen and roll because you have to get to practice,

847
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: you have to practice guarding screen and roll. But the

848
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: point is is like you give Kuzma and and Trees

849
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of reps, you give Shrewder and Tries a

850
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: bunch of reps, you get Hey, get Drummond in there,

851
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: have Drummond run a ton of reps with Dennis Shrewder.

852
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: Getting them to run uh tons and tons of reps

853
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: together even in losses, is it just builds that chemistry

854
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: to where, you know, in minutes where you know, Lebron's

855
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: running the bench lineups, but he's kind of resting on

856
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: the floor because he just ran three straight actions. And

857
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: so now Shrewder's gonna run a pick and roll with

858
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Tres makes at a higher percentage play. You know, we

859
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: saw that with Treads and Lou Williams over the years

860
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: that they played together, they built that chemistry to make

861
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: that a really dominant play. And so I I'm with you,

862
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot to gain in the sense that they

863
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: can practice uh specific actions. I just hope my number

864
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: one thing is do all that all you want, Just

865
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: don't lose your identity, continue to defend and compete on

866
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: on the defensive end of the ball. And for the

867
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: record they have, which is which is to me really

868
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: impressive because they don't have, you know, so much of

869
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: what they do defensively is unlocked by having these two

870
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: ridiculously versatile forwards in Lebron and Anthony Davis that can

871
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: switch everything, that can shut down specific actions and can

872
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: guard the back line, and and they're out right now

873
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: and they're still defending at extremely high level, which I

874
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: think is really impressive. Um as far ahead, I was

875
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask you about this because like I know, everyone's

876
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: saying we're waiting for Lebron and e D to come

877
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: back and all that, but like just watching these games,

878
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: like watching them break open three, the open three, that

879
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with lemarn and Anthony Davis, right,

880
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: Like that's just a mental Like KCP is shooting twenty

881
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: five on his open three since Lebron and a D

882
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: went out, Like what that has nothing to do with

883
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D. That's him missing wide open shots.

884
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what you're taking on that, because I

885
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: think he's just in a mental kind of hurdle right now.

886
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: I thought the All Star break would fix it, really hasn't.

887
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: He looks healthy now though, Like he doesn't look like

888
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: he's tired. He looks like he's running. He looks he's

889
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: still like disengaged on defense on a lot of possessions.

890
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: But I think that will come. It's just do you

891
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: think that fixes when Lebron and Dy goes back? Like

892
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: what do you what do you see from there? Because

893
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm starting to get a little worried, Like his

894
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt is big, right, you know, when

895
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: you play that well in the playoff series, your rope

896
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: is long from there. But it's starting to like really cut,

897
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: like I could see like the first stations are really

898
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: starting to build. So do where do you see from there?

899
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Because I don't know how that's a Lebron and a

900
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: d problem. Like I guess Lebron gets you the ball

901
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: in a little better situation. You're you know, he gets

902
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: in the pocket past a little more. But I'm watching

903
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: these games and the passes he's getting are perfectly fine.

904
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: He's in rhythm, he's shooting it in rhythm. Is just

905
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: not going in. So it's just like a slumpy think

906
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you'll get out of it, because you know, shooters usually

907
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: hit their open looks. I don't expect KCP to like

908
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: run ball stream actions and hit pull up mid rangers,

909
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: but you know, hit your open threes. That's That's what

910
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm wondering. So I agree that that they're in a

911
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: phone click, don't get me wrong. And this kind of

912
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: thing is this kind of thing is contagious. It just is. However,

913
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: as I tweeted out this morning, the Lakers are shooting

914
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: about thirty eight percent when both Lebron and e d

915
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: are on the floor from three seven percent with just Lebron, uh,

916
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: and then without both of them, they're shooting about thirty

917
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: and a half, so just below from three. Uh. Now,

918
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: you're right, like you can kind of disseminate that down

919
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: into like open looks and and different like off the

920
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: dribble shots and defended like heavily contested shots and so

921
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: on and so forth. And don't get me wrong, those

922
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: numbers are concerning. But as you and I have discussed before,

923
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: like No. Two open shots are the same either. You know,

924
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: when when you're in a game where you're not getting

925
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: as many high quality looks to build your rhythm and

926
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you end up open, that

927
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: open shot is different than I'm playing with Lebron and

928
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: a D. I'm consistently getting open looks to build my rhythm.

929
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D are feeding my confidence. Our team

930
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: is winning and we're playing well. All of that plays

931
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: into the way that shooting works like and you know,

932
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: there there are so many you know, analytics guys that

933
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: get involved with shooting and they and they run numbers

934
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: and they go like, oh, there's no such thing as

935
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: the hot hand there, there's no such thing as as

936
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: this or that or this or that. It's just simple

937
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: defender this far away. You can break it down in

938
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: two percentage. I disagree. If you've ever played basketball, you

939
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: can feel the momentum shift of shooting like a pickup

940
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: games are a great example of it because they're small

941
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: sample sizes like I play. When I play with my

942
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: group of guys that I play within the mornings, we

943
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: played in nine twos and threes, so the games end

944
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: super fast, and we do that on purpose because it

945
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: breeds really high quality basketball because if you trick off

946
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: one or two possessions, it will cost you the game.

947
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: And you can feel that flow where where you're missing

948
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: your open shots and other guys are making more contested

949
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: shots on the other team because of that momentum shift.

950
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: It's a team wide confidence. It is a team wide uh.

951
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: It's it's a team wide um uh like like like

952
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: momentum as and when it comes to making when it

953
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: comes to making shots, and you can feel that with

954
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers when Lebron's on the floor, then they're generating

955
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: higher quality shots. They just tend to go in. And

956
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: then you can feel it when they're off the floor.

957
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: It just it's almost like this like a cloud hanging

958
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: over the team where you can sense you can sense

959
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: it from the fan base too. They're like, oh, we

960
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: can't shoot, we can't shoot. And you almost see k C.

961
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: P Thinking like I can't shoot, I can't shoot, like

962
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: and it's like and it's like, no, dude, you're fine.

963
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: You're just you're not getting as many open shots. And

964
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: now you're in your own head and the team is

965
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: not very good right now. So like even with as

966
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: good as they played defensively there two and three without

967
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d so uh in this recent stretch.

968
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: So there's just my thing is like I of all

969
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: of the things that I worry about with the Lakers,

970
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: they're shooting is pretty far down on that list. I

971
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: just we've seen so many times over the last two

972
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: years then go cold for stretches, and it's usually related

973
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: to something funky and and the and the reality is

974
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: as they end up being just fine when the playoffs come.

975
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: Lebron and Nadie are super locked in. Like another big

976
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: thing is one of the most popular forms of three

977
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: point shooting is the offensive rebound kickback because the defense

978
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: is always out of position. Uh, they're all, you know,

979
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: they're maybe they're running the floor and transition or something.

980
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: They're out of position. But yeah, that's true. He's gonna

981
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: help a lot with that. And but it's like, you know,

982
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: we we played like you know, when the ball moves

983
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: and it hits like three different people than it hits

984
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: that last shooter, that ball is likely to go in. Right,

985
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: we have these clisses to say, like the ball finds energy.

986
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: That's how surprise last night the Lakers had a few

987
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: players where like they drive kick drive kick move move

988
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: and then like it gets to that corner shooter wide

989
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: open beautiful ball movement and it just clanks. I'm like, oh,

990
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: that is really shocking. That really shows that like there's

991
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: some kind of mental herter they're going on here. I

992
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. It's just interesting when you look

993
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: at the numbers. Man th HD is shooting like fourteen

994
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: on wide open threes in this in this stretch, like

995
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: he's really fallen off. He's hitting that like that rookie

996
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: shooting wall. I guess he's still playing okay, still getting

997
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: to the rim. But yeah, I think I think they're

998
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: shooting will be fine. It's just right now. They're obviously

999
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: in the slump, but their margin for error is so low,

1000
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's so small that

1001
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: when your best shooter is not hitting open threes, it

1002
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: just puts pressure on everyone else to score. I saw

1003
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: a number from I Think I pick up Hoop tweeted it.

1004
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: They have like a ninety one point one offensive rating

1005
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: without tread's on the floor during this stretch, and with

1006
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: treads it's like one oh one or something, one oh two,

1007
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: just which is just ridiculous. It's not great either way.

1008
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: That's that's the worst offense in the league on both possessions,

1009
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: on both times. But that shows just how much of

1010
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: a struggle it is to generate offense. So and that's

1011
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: the thing, like like Montrez Harrold is a matchup nightmare

1012
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: for other teams and puts pressure on the rim and

1013
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Like I'm just basketball. It's such as

1014
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: such a natural flow. Like it's like it's like when

1015
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: we talk about free throw shooting, it's the the physically aggressive,

1016
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: the physically aggressive team is the one that actually shoots

1017
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: more free throws, which is counterintuitive because you think the

1018
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: team that's being more physically aggressive is committing more. There

1019
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: is a there is a natural like waterfall effect in basketball.

1020
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: When you are physically aggressive, you put more pressure on

1021
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: the rim, you generate higher quality shots, your guys start

1022
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: making shots, you start drawing fouls and getting the free

1023
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: throw line. It's just this like waterfall effect. And and

1024
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: I believe in the Lakers formula they were built in

1025
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: a very specific way. They didn't want a Reggie Jackson.

1026
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't want you know, Wayne Ellington or

1027
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: any of these guys that were offensive oriented players. They

1028
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: wanted guards and wings that fit very specific roles next

1029
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: to Lebron and Anton Davis. And so I'm not gonna

1030
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: hyper analyze or or or or you know, overthink what

1031
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: this basketball looks like right now. Uh. It just it

1032
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: just was never the point. And you know, uh, you know,

1033
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: Frank Vogel catches a lot of slander these days for

1034
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: the offense. And I want to be like, you know,

1035
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: if they if the Lakers had signed Mike D'Antoni to

1036
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: be the head coach last year, I don't think there

1037
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: is good I really don't, because you know, the whole

1038
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: point of the Lebron experiences he can be your offensive

1039
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: head coach. And yeah, his style is a little bit unorthodox.

1040
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: So is the Steph Curry style. Like you don't you

1041
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: don't want to have Like there's there's not a roster

1042
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: in the league where you want another guy to be

1043
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: handling the ball and have your superstar just flying off

1044
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: the screens all day. That's that that that that works

1045
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: for the Warriors because the steps specific skill set and

1046
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: that's the way that the Lakers are built. They were like,

1047
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: we have this unbelievable role guy picking Popeye guy, picking

1048
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: roll guy, post up player, and we've got one of

1049
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: the smartest player is to ever play the game. So

1050
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: let's get a defensive minded head coach and a bunch

1051
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: of defensive minded role players and let's play into an identity.

1052
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: And that's what the Lakers have done. And you know, I,

1053
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: ironically I think that their defense might allow them to

1054
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: steal some of these games, because if they compete defensively,

1055
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: they might beat Sacramento. If they compete defensively, they might

1056
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: beat Toronto. Because the game is going to be a

1057
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: rock fight, and it is just about making a few

1058
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: shots here and there. And you've got enough with Montrez

1059
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Harrold and Dennis Shrewder to take advantage of some specific

1060
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: matchups and get some shots made at the end. And

1061
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at these other teams and

1062
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: the standings, like you know, the Clippers are resting players

1063
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: every once in a while, like the Mavericks are resting

1064
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Luca every once in a while. The Spurs are heading

1065
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: into a ridiculous tough stretch of their schedule, winning four

1066
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: games like beaten uh, beating these last two two teams

1067
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: and then taking down Toronto and take down um uh, Sacramento,

1068
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: that might literally be enough to float you. If you

1069
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: go four and eleven, you know, that might be enough

1070
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: to keep you at the sixth seed, and then all

1071
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Lebron and a d come back and

1072
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: you're going to run to end the season. So I

1073
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: think it's immensely important that that you just try to

1074
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: get these these handful of games because you just need

1075
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: to that the difference between going four and eleven and

1076
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: going two and thirteen is a huge difference in the

1077
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: way that the standings will eventually shake out. So I

1078
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: think I think they have something that they can, uh

1079
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, kind of make work for a couple of

1080
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: weeks there. And they've been in all these games. I mean,

1081
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: I feel like they should have won the Philly one.

1082
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: Danny Green just turned into Ray Allen like he was

1083
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: he eight threes and like the last three were contested,

1084
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: just tough shots. So and then the Phoenix one too

1085
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: was close until the end. Devin Booker and Chris Paul

1086
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: took over at the end. So that's basically how they'll

1087
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: lose these games. But I think they'll fight in them.

1088
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: Their defense will hold them steady, and they don't have

1089
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: the star power to hold up. But if you make

1090
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: these teams have to, you know, play their stars and

1091
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: win it. That way, you have a chance. And that's

1092
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: all you asked. Where for eleven would be. I mean

1093
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: that's not great, but I mean that would probably keep

1094
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: you above water for now. There was I think they're

1095
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: like five games ahead right now of Dallas um in

1096
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the standing, So I mean that's a lot of ground

1097
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: to try and make up. I mean, it just is,

1098
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: even with Lebron a D out, it seems not gonna

1099
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: lose like seven eight in a row. I don't think, like,

1100
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: I just don't. I know people are thinking, oh, they

1101
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: might lose eleven in a row. I just never saw that.

1102
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: That's just now we know that's not how basketball works. Really,

1103
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: Like teams are gonna skip skip get out wins and um, yeah,

1104
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: that that's kind of how I say. They'll they'll be fine.

1105
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: They'll stay above water. And if a D and Lebron

1106
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: can come back in two weeks, or Lebron can come

1107
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: back in three and a D come back in the

1108
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: next two weeks, a D at least push that talent

1109
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: level up right, and like he'll he'll match that talent

1110
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: level up if he can get on this team and

1111
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: they can start creating an Andre Drummond starts playing well,

1112
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: I think they'll get get a couple more wins. But

1113
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: this is a super tough stretch. They play Milwaukee next,

1114
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably gonna be a loss, and then

1115
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 1: from there just how to steal wins, like you said

1116
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: on Sacramento in Toronto. But that's that's basically your chance

1117
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: because after that, well, it's a game road trip. I think, yeah,

1118
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: that a game road trip is vicious. The interesting thing

1119
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: to do in terms of bringing a D back would

1120
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: be to, uh, you know, because I don't see Lebron

1121
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: doing a minutes limit. That just doesn't seem like it's

1122
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: programmed into him. Like when Lebron comes back, he's going

1123
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: to play thirty two minutes at least. So so what'll

1124
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: be interesting is a D. I do think they'll bring

1125
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: back on a minutes limit. So what would be interesting

1126
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: is to bring a D back a week early and

1127
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: have him play like fifteen minutes in the first game,

1128
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: twenty in the second game, twenty five in the third game,

1129
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and build him up. Um uh,

1130
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: that would be an interesting way to bring him back.

1131
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I agree with you. You You made

1132
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: a good point, Like it's like the uh, this is

1133
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: a this is a really good team. Um, they have

1134
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: really good habits. They're not going to go on an

1135
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: eleven game losing streak. They just have to stick to

1136
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: their identity and try to squeeze him out. I do

1137
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: think that this this stretch here is an interesting case

1138
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: study for one of my long standing theories, which is

1139
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: like you can coach and scheme defense, but you can't

1140
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: coach and scheme elite offense in late round playoff series.

1141
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: And the example I'd use is like, if you look

1142
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: at the Laker roster right now, it's not a super

1143
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: talented defensive roster. Like marcusol is old and not very

1144
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: mobile anymore. Montrase, Harrold is kind of like a notoriously

1145
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: bad defensive player in his career. You know, Mark Keith

1146
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: Morris is okay. Kyle Kuzma has shown flashes, but he's

1147
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: not a guy that you'd call around the league and

1148
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: think is an all defense guy. Alex Crusoe's and all

1149
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: defense level talent, denishooters and all defense level talent. But

1150
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: like k c P has been okay on that end

1151
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: this year, Wesley Matthews has been okay on that end.

1152
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: This year. They have defended on almost almost solely on

1153
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: the strength of their effort and Frank Vogel scheming. And

1154
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: I think that's really really impressive, And it goes to

1155
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: show you that, you know, when you're bringing in a

1156
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: guy like Andre Drummond, like you're really just working on

1157
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: fitting him into the scheme and getting him to play hard.

1158
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: It's not even that like like from there his physical

1159
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: talents will just take over. But I just think it's

1160
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: an interesting case study in in in how we value

1161
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: players and the reason why, like I would value a

1162
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: guy like Lebron so much, a guy like Steph so much,

1163
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: a step in particular, even though he has defensive limitations,

1164
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: because you can scheme at defense, you can get guys

1165
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: to play hard and have that impact defense. But you

1166
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: can't tell this this Laker team tries really really hard

1167
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: and they can't score, so like that that's not something

1168
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: that can be fixed with effort and focus, if that

1169
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, And and to your point, I mean,

1170
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: I love Damien Jones. I thought he was great. I

1171
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: thought he filled his role awesome. He was on ten

1172
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: days for a reason, right, there's a reason he's still

1173
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: not in the league right now. Um, that's because he's

1174
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: just not at that talent level. And they just fit

1175
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: him into the starting lineup. Gasol was out and they

1176
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: were fine on defense, they defended well. And then the

1177
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: talent gap though between him and Dubman is just so

1178
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: large that just gigantic time talent gaps. So when you

1179
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: feel a guy like that in plus the scheme, like

1180
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: you said, because the scheme is obviously what's winning them

1181
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: games right now, it's them and shrewder Crusoe, Casey Pee

1182
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: flying around these screens. That's how case you'd be picking

1183
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: up full core the Lakers who had the game in hand,

1184
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: and he had a dumbfoul at the end. Um, But

1185
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: I mean just that intensity right to play hard. Um,

1186
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: he's not shooting the ball well, but I thought he

1187
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: defended pretty well last night. And that's how they're winning

1188
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: these games. They're fun on these guys to the rim.

1189
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: Tras is doing a nice job in his coverages. He's

1190
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: been switching. Marcosol is a lot better than I think

1191
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: people think he is on defense as well. Um, during

1192
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: this during this stretch, and that's how they're defending, and

1193
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: uh that's how they have to win by defense because

1194
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: they are not going to score enough. Ronin who do

1195
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: you think it squeezed out of the rotation? What do

1196
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: you mean for like when Drummond comes back, there's you

1197
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: got Drummond, Marcosol, Anthony Davis, Leron, James Marquis for Morris

1198
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: all in the front court. Yeah, I get squeezed out.

1199
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: I think Marcusol probably gets for now the least in

1200
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: on the minutes because he's older. I don't think he

1201
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: minds as much. Um. I think the playoffs is gonna

1202
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: be super magic dependent, just like it was last year. Um,

1203
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of e D at the five.

1204
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: I think Marky Morris is gonna again play spot minutes

1205
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: where he's he can be effective. Same with Tread's. Same

1206
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: with Tread's probably gonna have a bigger role, but same

1207
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: with Drummond. All those guys are probably gonna be a

1208
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: match up depending. Just like last year, people worried about

1209
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: the Dwight situation. He didn't play for two rounds, Like

1210
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: just just that's what happened that he got mentioned. I

1211
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: believe in the Portland series. Also in in the Houston

1212
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: series as well, So that's how it will be, and

1213
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: then everyone understands that it's Lebron and a d are

1214
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: gonna get their minutes. Everyone else gets their spot minutes

1215
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: around that, and that's no different for the center rotation

1216
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: in my opinion. So it'll be interesting to see because

1217
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: like Houston, with the way that they schemed the Lakers,

1218
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: they had to bench Dwight Angeville right in the in.

1219
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: The team that could do that this year potentially would

1220
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: be Brooklyn, which would suck because you know, Drummond is

1221
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: such a weapon against Brooklyn as a physical price and

1222
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: speak because like a guy like Claxton might be able

1223
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: to compete more defensively on switches and guarding little guards

1224
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: and doing all these little things because he's got all

1225
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: this length. But if you've got a big body like

1226
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Drummond that can bury him under the rim, you know

1227
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: that that's that's a weapon. So it's like, but you know,

1228
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Frank Vogel has shown a tendency against these teams that

1229
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: do heavy switching to just go away from their centers altogether.

1230
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: But that's why I like having all those different matchups

1231
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: is Mark Keith Morris is a perfect guy to throw

1232
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: out for something like that, because then they go they

1233
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: do they switch something. Mark Keith can just run out

1234
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: to the corner and now you've got spacing for Lebron

1235
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: to attack the switch or for Anthony Davis to attack

1236
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: the switch. So it'll be interesting to see because you know,

1237
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: my guess is my guests on the rotation stuff, is

1238
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: that Drummond and Gasol, similar to Javail and Dwight, are

1239
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: going to play for the center minutes they're going. It's

1240
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: going to be based on who's playing better. If Marc

1241
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: Gasol has it going and Drummonds in his head and

1242
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: he's not playing his role, well, I think you're gonna

1243
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: see a lot of Gasol. But if Kasol looks washed

1244
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: and Drummond is being physically dominant, I think you're gonna

1245
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: see more Drummond. And then yeah, against specific matchups they

1246
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: go small and play a lot of Leron and a

1247
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: D and you know, maybe Kuzma at the foursome. It's

1248
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: a depth that they have. It's a depth problem, and

1249
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: they have a lot of depth, and it's not necessarily

1250
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: a problem. It's just someone's gonna get squeezed. And now

1251
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: one of the things that I think is super interesting

1252
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: about the Lakers. And it's so funny because you look

1253
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: back to like the way the Lakers were portrayed, you know,

1254
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: going into last season, it's this like dumpster fire unorganized

1255
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: basketball organization. Two now it's like they're so well run

1256
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: and and you look at uh, you look at Frank

1257
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Vogel and he's like, yeah, Like, I just have really

1258
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: upfront conversations with all my players about how much they're

1259
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna play. Like Frank Vogel will walk into locker room

1260
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: and be like, we're playing Sacramento tomorrow. They don't play

1261
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: a center, so you know, uh, Andre and Mark, you

1262
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: guys aren't playing tonight, and they'll just and and I

1263
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: I admire that because that's so much better than the

1264
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: alternative of like going into a game, doing a heavy

1265
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: warm up, getting all emotionally psyched for minutes, and then

1266
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: not playing and then now you're frustrated at the coach

1267
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: and it's brewing underneath the surface. Like the Lakers are

1268
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 1: handling this like pros and and I think that that's cool.

1269
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: And it's better to have more guys than you need

1270
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: than than to have the opposite effect, like a team

1271
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: like Boston who it doesn't know who to go to

1272
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: when they go to their bench. Yeah, and again that's

1273
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: you get that kind of cachet when you win a championship,

1274
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: right Like, that's that's what you get. And when you

1275
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: have Lebron on your team, who's gonna lead it. I mean,

1276
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: that's you can do things like that. Um, other places

1277
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: that might blow up, But we saw locker room issues

1278
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: with a lot of teams last year. Um, the Clippers,

1279
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: the Celtics still have some weird stuff going on in

1280
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: their locker rooms. So you can just kind of tell

1281
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: that when you have that kind of uh, those kind

1282
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: of players on your team, then then you can do that.

1283
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: But again, like right now, like I feel like this

1284
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be a weird stretch, like we talked about

1285
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: because leron a Dye aren't playing right, So it's so

1286
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: it is a little different. Like guys are expecting shots,

1287
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: guys are expecting minutes. Um, who's much with fifteen threes

1288
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: last night? I mean, that's just just a ridiculous amount

1289
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: of shots for him. But he must be happy, he's

1290
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: comfortable he's gonna get those looks because there's no one

1291
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: else to take them. Right now, so that's kind of

1292
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: where we're at right now. There's just like middle ground

1293
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: of I feel like I'm watching the two thousand eighteen Lakers,

1294
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: where like we're developing all these dudes, except we're getting

1295
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: lebron a d back, right that's time. You were just

1296
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: developing for the next season. So you're developing brandon ingram Alonzo, Ball,

1297
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: Josh Hard, all these young guys with a bunch of

1298
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: talent who aren't gonna win a lot of games right now,

1299
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: but you know that in the future if you add

1300
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: a star, they'll play. Well, well, we have the stars.

1301
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Now you're in that development mental mode again. So that's

1302
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: why I'm watching this this team right now, and I

1303
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: feel like that's how people should be watching this. The

1304
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: scoreboard is kind of not as relevant right now. You

1305
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: want to get wins as you can, but they're building

1306
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: towards stuff. And Vogel understands that people are mad at

1307
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Vogol because he's not playing this guy or he's not

1308
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: running this offense. I mean, it's just not the point

1309
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: of these games right now. They it's just not They're

1310
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: trying to develop good habits and good process where the future,

1311
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's the right approach and having Lebron

1312
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: and a D as the only things you have to

1313
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: plug in and ramp up are important because Ron Lebron

1314
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: is gonna have ramp up. Lebron is gonna have a

1315
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: phase where he's turned the ball over a lot, he's

1316
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: a little sloppy with his dribbles, his jumper is a

1317
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: little unpolished because he's coming back into the swing of things.

1318
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is gonna have like a physical ramp up

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: that he has to get into. So from from from

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: that standpoint, like you know, uh, having the guards already

1321
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: dialed into their defensive roles, having Shrewder and Tres already

1322
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: in a rhythm with what they can do with their

1323
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: actions that they run together. Having all of that set

1324
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: up and like humming out a hundred miles an hour

1325
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: and then just plugging in the Lebron and a D

1326
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: pieces is so much better than like, you know, if

1327
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d were injured in the off season

1328
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: and they came back, you know, right at the start

1329
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: of the season or training camp and everybody's ramping up together,

1330
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: that I'd be a little bit more concerned about them,

1331
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, looking good going into the playoffs, whereas now

1332
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: because they can just kind of handle Lebron and a

1333
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: dps separately, then I feel a little bit more confident.

1334
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: The thing that will get tricky is, you know, everybody

1335
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: uses the example of the bubble and how good they looked,

1336
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: uh in the bubble after taking a bunch of time off.

1337
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: But I have to remind people that they were playing

1338
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball in the in that time off.

1339
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: And you know, Lebron and I D have actually been

1340
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: literally sitting in a hyperbaric chamber and icing and stretching,

1341
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: and and A D is just now starting to do

1342
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: like really minuscule court work. So there for them, I

1343
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: think the ramp up is important, and and give it

1344
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: putting them in a position where the rest of the

1345
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: team is humming along, so the ramp up is a

1346
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: little easier. I think it brings a lot of value. Yeah,

1347
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: we talked about this before. I'm not saying like, obviously

1348
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: A D loves basketball, but you could tell like he

1349
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: wasn't enjoying like the beginning of the season, right, I mean,

1350
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear basketball is not a robotic game, right,

1351
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: It's not played on Excel spreadsheets, It's it's seen it's

1352
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: playing through like you can see people's emotions and faces,

1353
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: and he was just they was he was just not

1354
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: trying to do that early season and um, and he

1355
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: got hurt and now he's out for extended time. And

1356
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: so like you can see starting him him starting to

1357
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: post on I G like loading and hyperbolic chamber pictures

1358
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: and like just excited to get back on the court.

1359
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: And that's what you want to see, right, You want

1360
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: to see your stars like want to go out and play.

1361
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: And I feel like when he comes back, no matter

1362
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: the seating or Lebron's Lebron's, Lebron's played well the whole season,

1363
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: but you know, just to see a d trying to

1364
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: come back and be hyped up to play again, and

1365
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: you know he got a forced rest. I mean, I

1366
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: feel like this schedule was tough for anyone, but I mean,

1367
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: at least for those guys, they got a nice break

1368
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: from it. And I hope he comes back with a

1369
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: rejuvenation that we thought we'd see. Right, A twenty seven

1370
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: year old mega star just got paid in Los Angeles,

1371
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: the one b you know, biggest biggest name in l

1372
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: A sports, new sports, uh sports basketball. So like I

1373
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: just want to see him come out with like a

1374
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: renewed sense of like, Okay, it's time to go. This

1375
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: is I'm about to take over. Because you know, it's

1376
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations people are saying bed yr Kich

1377
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: are all m VP candidates, right, eight should be in

1378
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: that mix. That's the talent level that this guy has.

1379
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: So I want to see him come That's what I

1380
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: really want to see. That's my main thing. I'm not

1381
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: worried about Lebron like I think he's gonna come back

1382
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: and be Lebron James. That's what he is. Eighties the

1383
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: one I want to see come back. And you know,

1384
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: look not look like the bubble form, but just that

1385
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: aggressiveness getting to the basket, offensive, rebounding putbacks. That's when

1386
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: you know he's like engaged into a game. Um, the

1387
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: mid range jumpers are there, they look cool, they look

1388
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: pretty when they go in. But that's that's when I

1389
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: want to see come back. And I think we'll see

1390
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: a rejuvenated Anthony Davis um coming back coming back here.

1391
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: You can hear me. Yeah, So as far as Anthony

1392
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: Davis goes, I mean you made a good point, Like

1393
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: he came in. I think I think the criticism of

1394
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis before his injury was legitimate. You know, Don't

1395
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: get me wrong. He had a stretch there right at

1396
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: the end where we all knew he was banged up.

1397
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: That was different. But at the start of the season

1398
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: he came out with less fervor than we were hoping,

1399
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: you know coming into the season that that is legitimate criticism. Um,

1400
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: But you're right between him struggling and the in the

1401
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: ascent of Joel Embiide and Nicola Yokich, Like, dude, you've

1402
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: got a big herod in front of you now, Like

1403
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: if we don't, if we don't see a physically aggressive,

1404
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: dominant Anthony Davis, like I'd be concerned a little bit

1405
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: in terms of just his mentality. Now, I think he

1406
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: will be I think I think he'll come back health permitting.

1407
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: I think he'll come back and try to take a

1408
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: league by storm. Um. But my thing is, like, you know,

1409
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: if you look at the way Lebron has been in

1410
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: his whole career, it's like Katie Rises, Janice Rises, Steph Rises.

1411
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: He always wants to meet and ascend above them. And

1412
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, you know, like he we know the talents

1413
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: there what he did in the bubble is on the

1414
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: same level as what joe El Embiad has done in

1415
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: this regular season, and Anthony Davis does have that potentially

1416
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: you make a great point like he should be in

1417
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: that conversation. Okay, fine, you get a pass because of

1418
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: the quick turnaround, and you get a pass because of

1419
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: the injury. But in this playoff run, if you're healthy,

1420
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: and then going into next year, in a normal off season,

1421
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: in a normal UH training camp up and everything, this

1422
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: has to be what it is man UH and and

1423
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: Laker Nation is gonna hold you to that, and as

1424
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: I think they should, because they mortgage their entire future

1425
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: for it was worth it. They got a title. Don't

1426
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: get me wrong. It's not a failure by any stretch

1427
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: of the image imagination. But you have the physical talent

1428
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: and and all of the tools you need to do

1429
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: what Yokich is doing and to do what Joel Embiad

1430
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: is doing, so I think I think he needs to

1431
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: do it. And and you know, people in the in

1432
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: the solo pot I did last week, someone asked, like,

1433
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, how many more titles do you see the

1434
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: Lakers winning or do you think they can win a

1435
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: couple more titles, and I absolutely do, but it depends

1436
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: on one thing. It depends on Anthony Davis's ascent to

1437
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: mirror Lebron's descent. For every chunk of elite, high end,

1438
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: star level NBA basketball that Lebron loses each summer, you know,

1439
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis has to gain that and and if he doesn't,

1440
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: then you know that they won't be in the In

1441
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: these conversations, uh, you know, as teams that can compete

1442
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: for a title. But I'm just laying out, you know

1443
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: what the expectation is. But for the record, health permitting,

1444
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: I do expect him to succeed. And Lebron's skill set

1445
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: as he fades, still complements Anthony Davis really well. You

1446
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: can imagine a six ft nine, two seventy pound Jason

1447
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: Kidd at age thirty nine, you know, running running the offense,

1448
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: not not being the same physically dominant force, but just

1449
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: using his brain to unlock Anthony Davis, who at that

1450
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 1: phase hopefully is kind of like Joel Embiid is now

1451
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: just this unbelievable, unstoppable offensive force with Defensive Player of

1452
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: the Year capability on the other end. That that that's

1453
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 1: the way that it has to look and I think

1454
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: it's one okay to hold those guys accountable to that.

1455
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: Like if if if a d s a ten to

1456
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: fifteen best player in the league, you can be a

1457
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: lot more relaxed about this kind of stuff. But you,

1458
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: I think you called him the second best player in

1459
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: the league this summer. I called him the fourth best

1460
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: player in the league this summer, and I was lower

1461
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: on him than a lot of Laker Nation, And so

1462
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: I think we we have vaulted him to the point

1463
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: where he should have that kind of expectation. Yeah, we

1464
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: talked about when you're when you go up to like

1465
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: top five, you're splitting hairs right between the top five players.

1466
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're going through what Lebron, Katie h

1467
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: James Harden regular season, James Harden, um uh, Anthony Davis,

1468
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: Khi Leonard, all those dudes are, you know, insanely great players.

1469
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: I just and your kitchen people are putting him in

1470
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: there this season as well. You're splitting hairs on who

1471
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: you're picking on that. My thing is like Lebron still

1472
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: one pretty clearly. I mean I feel like if you

1473
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: pull anyone, he's still won. Um. I don't see him

1474
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: dropping like five spots and however you want to rank again,

1475
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: these rankings are so superficial that's it's hard to even

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: like talk about it. But you know, I don't think

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01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: if he's dropping like four or five, e d needs

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01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: to stay in that top five level though, because I

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: think that's the talent level he has. Because that's how

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01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: the Lakers are gonna build their roster going forward. Right,

1481
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: they don't have all these um, you know, picks and

1482
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: all that stuff to trade that was all owned by

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01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: New Orleans now, so they have to be smart around

1484
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: the margins which they have. They picked up, you know,

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: a twenty seven year old point above average starting point guard.

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: They picked up a twenty seven year old, you know,

1487
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: monstered score off the bench. All those dudes have faults,

1488
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: but you don't get them without faults, Like it's just

1489
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: how it would be. Um, people want shooter, you know,

1490
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: just to shoot forty pc from three and be a

1491
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: good passer and score at the rim. That's an all star.

1492
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: Like that's you're not you know, that's you're just not

1493
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: getting that any any time. Where they want Harold to

1494
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: be this lockdown defensive big and score twenty points a

1495
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: game like you that those are all star level talents.

1496
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 1: So Lakes go build the roster around the margins around

1497
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: those two guys being top five level players. And I

1498
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: think they can be and you have to be to

1499
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: beat some of the teams like the Nets and all

1500
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: that out here, and he has a capability to do it.

1501
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: We saw it with our own eyes. He was the

1502
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: best defensive player in the playoffs. I don't think that

1503
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: was a question. He logged shut down a Houston team

1504
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: that has, you know, two really strong ego dudes, and

1505
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: he shut down a Portland's team. And it's just like

1506
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: he has it in him. It's just that that has

1507
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: to come out during this this end of the season here, Yeah,

1508
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: that you make a great point, like it's it's like

1509
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d are theoretically going to kind of

1510
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: trade spots over the a few years. Like Lebron is

1511
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna descend from the best player in the league to

1512
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: like the fourth or fifth best player in the league,

1513
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis has to ascend to being, you know,

1514
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: the second or third best player in the league. And

1515
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: the Lakers are always going to be a destination for

1516
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: the Andre Drummonds and the best mid level exception guys

1517
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: and the best biennial exception guys, and the best uh

1518
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, guys who forced their way out via trade,

1519
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, and whatever it is. They they have that flexibility.

1520
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 1: And then you couple that with Frank Vogel and excellent

1521
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: defensive scheming and Lebron's brain on the offensive end of

1522
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: the floor, like there is a pathway, even in Lebron's

1523
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: old age for them to succeed. And you know what, man,

1524
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: if they can somehow stretch this out, uh to where

1525
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: talent Horton Tucker can actually be a genuinely impactful uh

1526
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: NBA starter, then look out, man, Like it could be,

1527
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: it could get It could be really really good for

1528
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: a long time. But that's how it has to be.

1529
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: It's it's no different than what the Lakers did in

1530
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: the two thousand Tents with Kobe and Shack. You gotta

1531
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: find a way to bridge the gap, you know, like

1532
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: you ride Shack, and then when it's done with act,

1533
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to make sure that that

1534
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: Kobe can be the guy. And and who's going to

1535
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: be the guy that's next to Kobe? Okay, it's pow

1536
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: And you know, as Phil Jackson, the guy that can

1537
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: lead us from a strategic standpoint, like you've got to

1538
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: find a way to bridge the gap otherwise you're gonna

1539
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: end up in a situation like what happened earlier this

1540
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: decade where the wheels came off. So that to me

1541
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: is is that is that key and and you know,

1542
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: so much of that is gonna come down to health obviously,

1543
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: but also it's just about making those decisions on the

1544
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: margins and uh and uh a d s development because

1545
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: as good as Anthony Davis says, he can be so

1546
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: much better, you know, like there's significant opportunity for improvement.

1547
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: They're still even at his age, you know, and I

1548
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: think he's twenty eight, But there's a version of Anthony

1549
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: Davis that could be, uh, you know, an even more

1550
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: dynamic offensive player. And then his physical tools are going

1551
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: to stay with him for at least another four or

1552
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: five years. Exactly when you talked about slow with drumming,

1553
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: like Drummond, the first time he was on a good

1554
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: team really is this year, right, like them a competent team, right,

1555
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: like a championship competent level team. Well, Anthony David's first

1556
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: time on that was last year. Right, that was his

1557
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: first time on like a good title team, learning what

1558
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: it means to like have every single game is like

1559
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: a win lose. If you lose, it's you know, it's

1560
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: it's a panic situation for Laker fans kind of thing.

1561
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: So he's still learning that and like, I think he's

1562
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 1: learning how to play, like with the low motor and

1563
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: all that, like, because I feel like he went hard.

1564
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: He goes hard a lot, and now like this year,

1565
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: he was kind of learning how to, um, you know,

1566
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: walk through games and then try to go play at

1567
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: the end and and still stay in a rhythm like

1568
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: Lebron does. Lebron can kind of fall asleep for three

1569
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: quarters and have a twenty five point fourth quarter. Like

1570
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: it's just things he can do. And Anthony Davis just

1571
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: hasn't learned how to do that yet. And he'll pick

1572
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: that up as we goove on. And yeah, I think

1573
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: he'll be fine. And he's gonna have to be first

1574
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: to win for this to win this year, and the

1575
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: longer he spends around Lebron, the more he's going to

1576
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: pick up on those little tricks of the trade to

1577
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: being the best player in the league. And I think

1578
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the added value of having

1579
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: Lebron around even as he gets older. And I I'm

1580
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: just I'm stoked because I feel bad that Kobe didn't

1581
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: get to have that experience, and the injury was to blame.

1582
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: But I'm sad that Kobe didn't get to have that

1583
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: experience like that late phase of his career where he's

1584
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: a fringe top ten fifteen player, but he can use

1585
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: his brain and his you know, aura, his persona to

1586
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: continue to add value. Chris Paul is right there, Chris

1587
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: Paul Man, we had him for three hours. I'll never

1588
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: forget those three hours. I talked way too much craft

1589
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: for three hours and then it was gone, So I'll

1590
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: never forget that. Yeah, we're sad we didn't get that.

1591
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: UM all right, everybody. I am so sincerely sorry about

1592
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: this WiFi situation. I have decided after this ship show,

1593
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: UM that I will not ever try to do this

1594
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,919
Speaker 1: again in this house. I will figure out a temporary

1595
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: solution off site where I have better WiFi so I

1596
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about this anymore. For the downloaded podcast,

1597
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 1: I will edit out those cuts so it'll flow a

1598
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: little bit more smooth. For the handful of you guys

1599
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: who stuck through that ship show. I sincerely appreciate you

1600
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: guys and UH and I appreciate your patience and understanding rage.

1601
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: I hope you have a good rest of your week.

1602
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: You want to go again on Friday, Let's do it,

1603
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: all right, man, I will see you then. Sounds good, alright,

1604
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Speaker 1: but