Speaker 1: To on remove Golm deep speedles peas do. From the
Speaker 1: Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This
Speaker 1: is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: He's got my ad hands in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show
Speaker 1: it is combine work. We're off to Indianapolis taking a
Speaker 1: look at athletes running around and spandex and short shorts,
Speaker 1: going nanners on all the crazy workouts they do and
Speaker 1: what that could do for the complexion of the draft.
Speaker 1: Plus sound bites for Daniel Jeremiah's Thursday conference call, some
Speaker 1: thoughts on those, plus latest Dolphins news like some different
Speaker 1: releases that happened over the weekend slash end of the week,
Speaker 1: and some ideas about free agency, the salary cap, and
Speaker 1: a whole lot more. From the Baptist Health Studios inside
Speaker 1: the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Drivetime Podcast.
Speaker 1: Ye daffy, sirs, And just like that, we are off
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. By the time you guys hear this, I'm
Speaker 1: probably wheels up en route to the scouting combine en route.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get you prepared for what the
Speaker 1: week will look like. So I'm not exactly sure how
Speaker 1: many shows we're going to do. This is another one
Speaker 1: of those situations where I often want to work more
Speaker 1: than I'm allowed to. It's a beauty of having a
Speaker 1: job that you love. I get to all the time. Hey,
Speaker 1: back it down, man, Just chill out and do three shows,
Speaker 1: like I kind of want to do five shows. So
Speaker 1: probably gonna be five because that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I know there will be one tomorrow, the rare Tuesday
Speaker 1: off season show because Mike McDaniel speaks, will also have
Speaker 1: one on Wednesday, your normally scheduled programming because Chris Greer Speaks.
Speaker 1: Will get tons, tons of fresh new Dolphins nuggies like
Speaker 1: I have for you guys today coming up. Plus I
Speaker 1: will also have interviews recorded by that time with the
Speaker 1: Great Daniel Jeremiah Whoops, and I have so many questions
Speaker 1: that I'm fired up to ask him. I'm just fired
Speaker 1: up to be here, you know, Jordan Reid and Matt
Speaker 1: Miller to name a few. So we'll get those episodes
Speaker 1: out to you by Tuesday and Wednesday evening there will
Speaker 1: be at least one more episode later on in the week,
Speaker 1: could be Thursday, could be Friday. Maybe beep yourself to
Speaker 1: quote Mark Wahlberg in The Departed. I'll have plenty of stuff,
Speaker 1: just organizing how it all looks. Plus we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Kyle Krabs, I'll talk to the bootleg guys. I've got
Speaker 1: Brad Spielberger, the Gap, Gap Cap, and freakin' you know,
Speaker 1: free agency expert, the Guru. Thats what I might say,
Speaker 1: Guru with Cap on the front gee for Cap turns
Speaker 1: into Gap.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm on like my second coffee. It's nine thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning, and I have to do this. I have
Speaker 1: to pack, I have to take some clothes back that
Speaker 1: I bought at the mall. Who goes to the mall anymore?
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling a little bit weird, and I have
Speaker 1: to thee all this time, like in five hours. So
Speaker 1: bear with me here. So we're gonna get to all
Speaker 1: those interviews. We'll also have some sound bye from players
Speaker 1: at their podiums, some general draft content that you're used
Speaker 1: to on this podcast, and before any of that, on
Speaker 1: this Monday, I'm feeling weird, man. I thought Daniel Jeremiah's
Speaker 1: conference call last week was great, as it always is,
Speaker 1: So I do want to play you guys some highlights
Speaker 1: from that podcast. We'll also get to our Combine preview,
Speaker 1: but first, I think this will be the segment that
Speaker 1: you guys like the most on this show. And I
Speaker 1: saw some of the comments on the reviews about the
Speaker 1: shack was released. Yeah, you're right about that, and it's
Speaker 1: been fun. I'm having a lot of fun getting back
Speaker 1: to more opinion and more you know, just being myself
Speaker 1: with you guys in the show here and with that,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about some elements of the upcoming
Speaker 1: off season. It's just a couple of weeks away, guys. Freezency,
Speaker 1: like on my favorite times a year, is right around the corner.
Speaker 1: We're also going to have Washington State in the NSA
Speaker 1: Tournament this year. We'll also have the new net the
Speaker 1: second season of Full Swing as the golf heusing kicks
Speaker 1: off with the Players Championship really getting into full here.
Speaker 1: It's a fun time of year. So I start here
Speaker 1: by talking about these salary cap news that came down
Speaker 1: the wire. Was it Friday or Thursday? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I think it was Friday's I had already published the podcast,
Speaker 1: but maybe I didn't. I don't know. Once again, Mark Wahlberg, go,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff yourself. So the cap is going, it is,
Speaker 1: it's official now going to be around two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars this year, the largest increase, I believe
Speaker 1: in the last I don't know, the last twenty years
Speaker 1: or whatever, the biggest jumping and salary cap like thirteen
Speaker 1: percent increase in what it was the year prior. And
Speaker 1: what that means, so essentially, what that means is the
Speaker 1: percentage of the top tier contracts is going to go
Speaker 1: way up. What else that means is the second tier
Speaker 1: of free agency is going to really suffer. From a
Speaker 1: player's perspective, they're going to get less money because the
Speaker 1: bigger chunk of the pie, as it does in this league,
Speaker 1: goes to quarterbacks and the top paid premier players at
Speaker 1: premier positions. So Christian Wilkins contract ask probably just went up.
Speaker 1: Robert Hunts probably just went up a little bit. But
Speaker 1: you know what's nice about it is a lot of
Speaker 1: guys in the market that I think that we're gonna
Speaker 1: live on. They're going to be at an even more
Speaker 1: reduced cost right now. And I'm talking about a Deshaun
Speaker 1: Elliott you can bring back. I'm talking about probably an
Speaker 1: Andrew Van Ginkle you can bring back. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: maybe even Isaiah Win who maybe can't, maybe doesn't get
Speaker 1: a contract right away, Ryb he has to come back
Speaker 1: here on a one year, two million dollar deal and
Speaker 1: scept in August. You know, I'm not that's just speculation
Speaker 1: and speaking to the future, but those are the kind
Speaker 1: of players that are going to be hit the most
Speaker 1: by this in terms of the bigger chunk of the
Speaker 1: pie going upwards. But ma'am, that's where you want to
Speaker 1: live because I see these complaints, and you know, I
Speaker 1: see Kyle's discord from Lockdown Dolphins and the complaints about
Speaker 1: Chris career, and I never understand the criticisms there. I
Speaker 1: get the whole hasn't won a playoff game thing, but
Speaker 1: like those aren't those I mean, that's use your process
Speaker 1: to figure out why we haven't won those playoff game
Speaker 1: because the roster, the trade acquisitions, the drafting, like free
Speaker 1: agency hasn't been great for us, but the rest of
Speaker 1: it has been really good. In roster What am I
Speaker 1: looking for here? And roster construction, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I keep seeing this arguments about like, oh, this one
Speaker 1: move means that Chris career is done a bad job.
Speaker 1: Like Byron Jones for instance. You know a five year
Speaker 1: pro who had made all pro teams and missed one
Speaker 1: game and once popped his kneecap back into place after
Speaker 1: dislocation mid game and kept on going, like I swear
Speaker 1: some of the foresight or some of the comments I
Speaker 1: see and their expectation of foresight for players you acquire,
Speaker 1: like it's wild to think that that was like some
Speaker 1: move like oh, how could he ever sign Byron Jones?
Speaker 1: We were fired up about Byron Jones when he got signed.
Speaker 1: But the nice part is, and I keep saying this,
Speaker 1: and if you won't take my word for it, I
Speaker 1: constantly refer to people that know about this frankly better
Speaker 1: than I do. You know, never have been much of
Speaker 1: a cap or contract guy, because sometimes when I stare
Speaker 1: at numbers, it makes my freaking brain hurt. Words. I
Speaker 1: have the best ways, a head, many moods, but numbers
Speaker 1: I can't do it. But I do believe that understanding
Speaker 1: your shortcomings is a strength. But I digress. So the
Speaker 1: Dolphins build in this flexibility into the contracts they do
Speaker 1: every single year they are one of the most risk adverse,
Speaker 1: but also put themselves in position to take risk because
Speaker 1: of how they structure contracts. And we'll talk to Brad
Speaker 1: Spielberger of PFF about this later on this week. But
Speaker 1: I look back to the Kyle van Ney and Shack
Speaker 1: loss In contracts. They got out of those deals after
Speaker 1: one year, and it wasn't very punitive to Miami. Now,
Speaker 1: the one bad contract the Dolphins gave out recently was
Speaker 1: the Xavian Howard redo. But that's kind of like an
Speaker 1: Exaviing Howard issue, right, we'll talk about that here in
Speaker 1: just one second. And when you constantly shop at the
Speaker 1: top of the market, you're going to have stuff like
Speaker 1: this happen because you wind up paying in free agency
Speaker 1: like thirty cents on the dollar. When you live in
Speaker 1: the Mike McGlinchey in the Christian Kirk world of paying
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars for the thirty fifth best receiver in
Speaker 1: the National Football Did you feel me on that? So
Speaker 1: that's not where I want to live. I want to
Speaker 1: live in Tier two and get my impact players like
Speaker 1: Mike Deshaun Elliott's, you know in this instance, and Andrew
Speaker 1: Van Ginkle because Gink is deserving a big money. I
Speaker 1: think we all agree on that, but comparative to the
Speaker 1: top pass rushers, it's not going to be twenty million, right,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be fifteen. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be ten million. Most likely maybe eight that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: But that's second tier money for an edge rusher. So
Speaker 1: that's where you want to live, and especially bringing guys
Speaker 1: back in your own program. Real quick, let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and divert here because we've got some news over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Agba, who was probably the first guy to like
Speaker 1: really develop a true friendship with me outside of the
Speaker 1: actual football. He got here in twenty twenty, so did I,
Speaker 1: and we became pretty good buddies there. So Emmanuel Agba
Speaker 1: has been released by the Miami Dolphins. Great two years
Speaker 1: for him. The last two years of his ten year
Speaker 1: in Miami didn't really work out, but he was a
Speaker 1: really really good, really important player almost twenty and twenty
Speaker 1: one rosters and I'm gonna miss having around really really
Speaker 1: good dude Xavien Howard. The Dolphins will release him with
Speaker 1: a post June one designation, per reports that one's notofficial yet,
Speaker 1: And just like that, through those two moves and the
Speaker 1: salary cap jumping up to two hundred and fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars when we were fifty two million dollars over the
Speaker 1: cap four days ago. It's been reduced by more than
Speaker 1: half twenty five million dollars over the cap now. So
Speaker 1: like I told you guys this right, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: keep going that way. You're gonna lop off some more
Speaker 1: parts that give you more flexibility. You're gonna see more
Speaker 1: extensions like Tua's extension will knock the number down a
Speaker 1: little bit. And the nice thing about drafting, well, you
Speaker 1: have other extensions that you can execute which would achieve
Speaker 1: the same goal of shifting cap down the line. Now,
Speaker 1: is that a great process when it comes to eight
Speaker 1: years down the road? Maybe not. Maybe you have to
Speaker 1: take another twenty nineteen year, another twenty nineteen pill in
Speaker 1: you know, a certain year would be let's let's say,
Speaker 1: in eight years from now, Tua gets injured, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: take your pill and let's go ahead and reset the
Speaker 1: books right here. But like that's way down the road.
Speaker 1: So you can achieve this idea of creating more space
Speaker 1: and more flexibility, which I don't I'm not advocating for
Speaker 1: for top of the line free agents just forgetting my
Speaker 1: no offense of the world.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: But you can do this with Jalen Waddle, with Jalen Phillips,
Speaker 1: They're gonna get paid, right. That's the business of drafting
Speaker 1: good and doing so at premium spots. It'll affords you
Speaker 1: the chance to get those players in twenty four and
Speaker 1: twenty five for pretty cheap if you I want to
Speaker 1: backload those deals because I trust that both Waddle and
Speaker 1: Phillips are going to be Dolphins lifers. But even still, again,
Speaker 1: just because you have the money, man, do not live
Speaker 1: at the top of the free agent market because it
Speaker 1: is thirty maybe forty cents on the dollar. And actually,
Speaker 1: I do want to put a pin in that because
Speaker 1: it sounds like a full episode to me exploring past
Speaker 1: top of the market contracts. Like again, I mentioned Christian
Speaker 1: Kirk earlier. I think Christian Kirk's a very good football player.
Speaker 1: I loved him when he got drafted out of A
Speaker 1: and M I thought the Jaguars spent way too much
Speaker 1: on him, even though I think he's an important player
Speaker 1: for that team and a very good player in the
Speaker 1: perspective of the national Football league. Is he a seventeen
Speaker 1: million dollar player? I don't think so. It's not good
Speaker 1: business by the very nature of it, by its very
Speaker 1: core description. So that's kind of my diatribe here about
Speaker 1: free agency, available money, the GM, all that stuff, the
Speaker 1: cap going up. But also just a couple more notes here.
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if that nugget was floated out there
Speaker 1: about xaviing Howard with the idea of potentially trading him
Speaker 1: at the new league year, Like why not say, hey, Houston,
Speaker 1: he wants to be there. You need a veteran corner
Speaker 1: alongside Derek Stingley. Why not give us a sixth round
Speaker 1: draft pick and take some less money off of our hands.
Speaker 1: That could happen, or maybe you give him a six
Speaker 1: round draft pick, like whatever the case may be. You
Speaker 1: could get yourself out of that penalty a little bit
Speaker 1: with a bad contract, which, by the way, back on
Speaker 1: that again, the demands of that guy were very infuriating
Speaker 1: throughout the whole process. Refuse to take a pay cut
Speaker 1: the time around, Like not a lot of love lost there, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, great player for the Dolphins for a long time,
Speaker 1: but that situation was, you know, getting himself an off
Speaker 1: off field trouble. I'm kind of glad to be out
Speaker 1: of that headache. I just don't really care for that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Give me a saint, give me a two,
Speaker 1: you know, Christian Wilkins. This the last note I have
Speaker 1: on here before. Actually, no it's not. That's a lie.
Speaker 1: But I did put Christian Wilkins in my notes here
Speaker 1: because I've thought about this over the weekend, and the
Speaker 1: extra money we got from the salary cap bump makes
Speaker 1: me think that's a slam dunk deal, and I've moved
Speaker 1: my opinion to I have to have him back, non negotiable,
Speaker 1: give him what he wants. I need him back because
Speaker 1: going from two hundred and thirty eight projected cap to
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty will probably raise his price a
Speaker 1: little bit. But that's also two players. Because Christian Wilkins
Speaker 1: plays eight hundred, nine hundred snaps a year out of
Speaker 1: year one thousand, year eleven hundred that you play, that's
Speaker 1: two players. I mean, Ray Kwan Davis is a four
Speaker 1: or five hundred snap player, Like, you want to get
Speaker 1: two of those guys. If you open up Christian Wilkins,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go get two new players. And
Speaker 1: the chances of both those guys hitting and giving you
Speaker 1: production at the level kommesrate that you paid them with
Speaker 1: is not great. If I pay Christian, I know exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm getting. I have him and Zach Seeler. I
Speaker 1: basically don't have to worry about defensive tackle depth because
Speaker 1: they never leave the field, they never get hurt, They're
Speaker 1: tough as hell, and they fight through everything, and they're
Speaker 1: phenomenal football players. I would not break that up. I mean,
Speaker 1: those two guys are so valuable to this team, and
Speaker 1: especially with the situation the way it is right now,
Speaker 1: definitely do that. And so that's why those are the
Speaker 1: kind of players I wouldn't mind spending the twenty million
Speaker 1: plus on because they're not important products that you have
Speaker 1: to figure out if they work in your program. You know,
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins works here. He has his routine down. He's
Speaker 1: gonna kick his shirt from the shower all the way
Speaker 1: to the locker. One of my favorite player quirks of
Speaker 1: all time. After he gets out of the shower after practice,
Speaker 1: he's got his talent, his slides on, and he kicks
Speaker 1: his T shirt from the shower all the way back
Speaker 1: to his locker with a very slow crawl walk. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: The guy is one of my favorite human beings because
Speaker 1: of how weird he is. I just love that. So
Speaker 1: get him back in the building. I expect that to
Speaker 1: happen sooner than later. So just on top of all that,
Speaker 1: like I keep seeing this this is last how here
Speaker 1: before we get to some actual podcast content that I
Speaker 1: promised you. I keep seeing this thing about like it's
Speaker 1: going to be a boring off season because we don't
Speaker 1: have the same expectations that we had last year. Who cares, man, Like,
Speaker 1: haven't we learned this by now? That's kind of like
Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from. I kind of felt
Speaker 1: the same way after the loss to Kansas City or
Speaker 1: after the lost of Buffalo even kind of trailing into that.
Speaker 1: But who gives a damn about off season perception? Does
Speaker 1: it ever ever match up for more than a couple
Speaker 1: of teams that you predict every single year out of
Speaker 1: the thirty two Like the team will look different, no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But you can just go get other
Speaker 1: good players. They exist in the draft and free agency
Speaker 1: and on the market, Like we brought in Brandon Shell
Speaker 1: one time mid season to compete at the right tackle position.
Speaker 1: He played okay, like you can find you can find
Speaker 1: new players, right. The system's good, the quarterback's good, the
Speaker 1: coach is good. That there's certain premium spots in place
Speaker 1: that are good. You can round out the rest and
Speaker 1: so like. Who cares about expectations? Man, Buffalo? Last year,
Speaker 1: after two years ago they had these Super Bowl aspirations
Speaker 1: got knocked out in the divisional round. Last year. Everyone
Speaker 1: said their window had closed and they couldn't compete anymore.
Speaker 1: And it looked that way in the beginning, but then
Speaker 1: they rattle off six straight wins and put themselves right
Speaker 1: back in the same spot where they Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: they lost again. But I think everybody was picking them
Speaker 1: to beat Casey at home in the divisional round and
Speaker 1: make a run, right, Everyone thought that was gonna happen
Speaker 1: either then were Baltimore didn't happen that way? Or how
Speaker 1: about Houston who I predicted to go four and thirteen
Speaker 1: and they won the damn division? How about the Bengals
Speaker 1: if they had any visions of going what was it
Speaker 1: eight to nine this year? Look at Philadelphia? Weren't they
Speaker 1: ten to one at one point? How does it look
Speaker 1: right now, like, who cares about perception? Let it play out,
Speaker 1: have fun, enjoy the guys you have, get to know them.
Speaker 1: In fact, I did a mock off season real quick
Speaker 1: to put a boat on this first segment where I
Speaker 1: was able to extend to a waddle Phillips and Holland
Speaker 1: not a bad court, right, and some good draft picks
Speaker 1: there too, to re sign Christian Wilkins, Robert Hunt, Andrew
Speaker 1: BEng Ginkle. I also put to Shaun Elliott and Elijah
Speaker 1: Campbell in there. I also added Andre James, Noah Fan,
Speaker 1: Tim Settle, Trevis Gibson a free agency that's a big
Speaker 1: nose tackle in Tim Settle. That's Trevis Gibson outside Rushier
Speaker 1: who worked with Ryan Crow and Tennessee. And of course
Speaker 1: you guys know Noah Fan the tight end from Seattle,
Speaker 1: and Andre James, the center who would be coming here
Speaker 1: and anchor the middle of the offensive line. And then
Speaker 1: draft Troy Fatano who's my left guard in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four and my left tackle in twenty twenty five, Roman Wilson,
Speaker 1: who I think is a great receiver prospect, Cedric van
Speaker 1: Prant from Georgia the center slash guard, and then Shaw
Speaker 1: Smith Wade. Now that's mock draft. Who knows what the
Speaker 1: hell's there, But the team's going to look different. But
Speaker 1: sometimes the players you add, they're pretty good. Last note here,
Speaker 1: DCC absolute rock and success, over seventy five million dollars
Speaker 1: raised in the fourteen years. Seth and I did a
Speaker 1: two hour radio program, had the great Jalen phillips on.
Speaker 1: We got to meet Malachia, five year old cancer survivor.
Speaker 1: Good job, Malachi, go get them, buddy. You beat the
Speaker 1: crap out of that crappy cancer. Just a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to see all you guys out there, the support,
Speaker 1: the writers, just a really fun community event. If you
Speaker 1: haven't gotten out for that in past in the past,
Speaker 1: come check out DCC fifteen next year. It's a great time.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and take a break right
Speaker 1: there and get to the news conference of Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: which he gave us tons of great nuggets, and I
Speaker 1: have some thoughts on said nuggets. That's next Draft Time
Speaker 1: podcast to your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoonation. Okay,
Speaker 1: there might be a chance that I punt on the
Speaker 1: Freaks List and the Combine workout preview because this conference call,
Speaker 1: I cut the audio and didn't realize how much I
Speaker 1: had and wanted to use. So I'm using a fraction
Speaker 1: of what he actually talked about, because it's like a
Speaker 1: two hour conference call taking questions from different beat writers
Speaker 1: who asked teams specific questions, national writers who asked general
Speaker 1: draft questions. I asked about specific offensive line players you'll
Speaker 1: hear at the end of this news conference here. But
Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and just start with a
Speaker 1: collection of players I think are good players. It would
Speaker 1: fit from Miami, some general NFL team building philosophy, thoughts,
Speaker 1: just everything DJ has to offer, which is draft expert analysis,
Speaker 1: team building, construction, allocation, all that stuff. Very comprehensive and
Speaker 1: what he does, I want to go ahead and use
Speaker 1: that lee into it. And we start here. And this
Speaker 1: is in order of how he went, so I'm not
Speaker 1: stacking these in any certain order. Okay, guys, But he
Speaker 1: talked about the Michigan players, and he was asked about
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and camped him to Alex Smith coming out
Speaker 1: of college, which I found pretty interesting. But I want
Speaker 1: to go ahead and fast forward that because McCarthy off
Speaker 1: the board before we pick. Also not really a player
Speaker 1: or a position that we're interested in the first round.
Speaker 1: Although I do love Michael Pennix. I will tell you
Speaker 1: guys that I think he's a good looking football player,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't use a pick on it because we
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. But just let you know that's my
Speaker 1: thoughts on the quarterback class. But he talked about McCarthy,
Speaker 1: but then I cut that part out and use the
Speaker 1: rest of the players he discussed here. Because there's two
Speaker 1: guys he mentions whose game I love. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and hear from DJ about the Michigan prospects he likes
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: Junior Colson, the linebacker, who I think is one of
Speaker 2: the best linebackers in this draft. Is a plug and
Speaker 2: play guy. Roman Wilson, who reminds me of Jayden Reid
Speaker 2: from the Packers. Is just really dynamic and was awesome
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. And then Mike Sandristill, the nickel
Speaker 2: who just makes all kinds of plays, had six picks.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a.
Speaker 2: Great leader from everything I've been told, can really find
Speaker 2: and play the ball, and I think might be a
Speaker 2: little bit faster than people expect. So those are three
Speaker 2: that I'm really high on.
Speaker 1: I haven't really talked about Sam Rastill a whole lot,
Speaker 1: but he is just a nickel that makes all kinds
Speaker 1: of plays, total playmaker, alpha mentality, Tasmanian devil, like we
Speaker 1: talk about, He's a guy that I would love to
Speaker 1: get in the program. I do think that he's probably
Speaker 1: a little bit out of our range in terms of
Speaker 1: positional value team need and where he probably goes in
Speaker 1: this year's draft. Plus there's other players that you like
Speaker 1: at different spots as well. So a player that I
Speaker 1: would love to get in here, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the value works out there. And then of course Roman
Speaker 1: Wilson to continue to go back to him. You heard
Speaker 1: DJ talk about, and they're Jaden Reid from the Packers,
Speaker 1: really good looking player, and the way Wilson dominated the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. We've seen players do that over the course
Speaker 1: of the last decade, and typically when they dominate those
Speaker 1: guys out there in the Senior Bowl, they do the
Speaker 1: exact same thing in the pros. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: bump it here to a next question. That was kind
Speaker 1: of a general quarterback philosophy and how the league is
Speaker 1: operating right now, And I love using this stuff because,
Speaker 1: by the way, the great Peter King retired today or
Speaker 1: announced it, and he gave you some other options for
Speaker 1: who to read a weekly call him from and I
Speaker 1: like the names that he listed, and I love Ben Solak.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong about this from the Ringer, one
Speaker 1: of my friends of the podcast, longtime friend in the industry.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a gap in this. Sound like
Speaker 1: an old man here. This tends to be a younger
Speaker 1: person thing. But like man, the only traits that people
Speaker 1: seem to view of a certain age is like arm strength, right,
Speaker 1: and es capability, which are great. They're fun, playmaker type
Speaker 1: of traits to have them. They catch the highlight reels.
Speaker 1: But man, processing continues to be what wins in this league. Processing, accuracy,
Speaker 1: decision making, managing a situation in a game, all are great.
Speaker 1: If you compare those with elite trades, that's even better.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and hear from DJ who was asked
Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl quarterbacks brock perty and Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: different paths to that stage and how the NFL has
Speaker 1: kind of adopted or molded or the evolution of how
Speaker 1: you evaluate the quarterbacks coming out of the draft. Here
Speaker 1: is Daniel Jeremiah on some of the trades team are
Speaker 1: looking at more nowadays than they were maybe just a
Speaker 1: few years ago.
Speaker 2: I think I was talking to a general manager the
Speaker 2: other day and I said, I think that maybe the
Speaker 2: only thing harder than playing quarterback in this league might
Speaker 2: be evaluating quarterback coming into this league. Because every time
Speaker 2: you think you've you've got an answer, you've got some
Speaker 2: things figured out, you've got the formula something, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody comes out and flips it on its head. So
Speaker 2: it's it's something you're always trying to learn. I think
Speaker 2: kind of it goes in little waves, and right now
Speaker 2: it seems to be there's a there's a lot of
Speaker 2: talk and chatter about guys that have experienced and they
Speaker 2: have played a lot of games, and brock Perty's kind
Speaker 2: of the poster child for that. But guys that have
Speaker 2: been in college for a while, you're not going to
Speaker 2: get the time to develop in the NFL that maybe
Speaker 2: you would previously. Because the financial commitment isn't as big,
Speaker 2: it's easier for teams to cycle through guys, throw them
Speaker 2: out there for two years, it doesn't work. We can
Speaker 2: flush them and go on to the next one. So
Speaker 2: you want them once they get on the field, and
Speaker 2: they have to get on the field early to have some.
Speaker 3: More experience under the belt.
Speaker 2: And that's been something I think people have given more
Speaker 2: credence to the last couple of years, is the guys
Speaker 2: who have some starts, which in this draft it's interesting
Speaker 2: because you've got you know, Nix and Pennix who have
Speaker 2: just played a ton of football, and people can talk
Speaker 2: about where the ceiling is for these guys or you know,
Speaker 2: how much growth is.
Speaker 3: These guys are ready to play.
Speaker 2: They're going to step in and have a chance to
Speaker 2: start right away and it's not going to be too
Speaker 2: big for them because of all the experience that they have.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of one of the trends. I would
Speaker 2: say that that's come up a lot lately.
Speaker 1: And it fascinates me because there are some people who
Speaker 1: I respect more than just about anybody that flat out
Speaker 1: and admit they suck it. Quarterback evaluations. Brett Coleman shout
Speaker 1: out talks about it on the regular and honestly, sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel hypocritical and how I talk about quarterbacks because
Speaker 1: I've banged the drum in the past for Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: for Jordan Love, because of the physical marvels that they
Speaker 1: were like. Don't get me wrong, I see it too, guys,
Speaker 1: and the idea of development coaching patience. Let those guys
Speaker 1: get into the league and survive with their playmaking and
Speaker 1: their legs while they develop the mental side of the
Speaker 1: game through the reps they get. But then also how
Speaker 1: our teams and quarterbacks afforded the chance to actually go
Speaker 1: through those growing pains and get those reps. Because Trey
Speaker 1: Lance is a perfect example. I think if Trey Lance
Speaker 1: played right away didn't get hurt, we could be looking
Speaker 1: at an entirely different career path for the young man.
Speaker 1: But it just didn't go that way. And now when
Speaker 1: the hell is he gonna get a chance? Only one
Speaker 1: quarterback can play. You almost need like an AFL for
Speaker 1: him to go play in. But where I feel like
Speaker 1: a hypocrite. As much as those tools can be fun
Speaker 1: to sort of fantasize about what they could become down
Speaker 1: the road. And this is why I have so many
Speaker 1: issues with the way the quarterback positions covered today. People
Speaker 1: seem to only care about those traits and not the
Speaker 1: ones that I believe are far more important, all important,
Speaker 1: But you can stack them processing situational management, timing. I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: I've been on this offensive line crusade for the dearth
Speaker 1: of the talent there is in the NFL compared to
Speaker 1: NFL pass rushers. But how about a quarterback that sees
Speaker 1: it fast enough to get the ball out quick with
Speaker 1: a quick, lightning fast trigger to mitigate all of that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty valuable. I don't care what anybody tells you.
Speaker 1: It's the most valuable thing you can do in this league.
Speaker 1: So when a quarterback on tape that shows me the
Speaker 1: goods there to at Bama, that's where I really start
Speaker 1: to get starr eyed personally. Give me both and well,
Speaker 1: that's Patrick Mahomes, because I promise you Patrick isn't Patrick
Speaker 1: if he's not an absolute assassin from the pocket and
Speaker 1: the way he processes coverage and everything that he sees
Speaker 1: in the field. And this is why, quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: have no idea how to grade Caleb Williams. He scares
Speaker 1: the hell out of me because the playmaking is fun.
Speaker 1: But I saw Zach Wilson do a lot of the
Speaker 1: same stuff in college where they had you know, big
Speaker 1: time names Tony Romo comparing him to Patrick Mahomes, But
Speaker 1: I saw when I watched him on tape was a
Speaker 1: guy that was beating group of five talent by beiling
Speaker 1: on clean pockets and just winning with peer athletic ability.
Speaker 1: And that stuff does not work when there are three
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips on your defensive front. To that point, I
Speaker 1: think this one is worth hearing. Here this next question
Speaker 1: and answer about Sean Payton and his charge that evaluating
Speaker 1: processing from a quarterback is the toughest thing to do
Speaker 1: in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's darn near impossible.
Speaker 2: You know, you do your best try and figure it out,
Speaker 2: and you try and watch guys and you try and
Speaker 2: see and follow their eyes and how they're getting the
Speaker 2: one to two to three and how quickly they're doing that.
Speaker 2: But without knowing you know, how they're coached and what
Speaker 2: the scheme calls for them to do. It still makes
Speaker 2: it a little bit difficult. And in the college game,
Speaker 2: you can you can win a lot of games on
Speaker 2: first red throws. You know, they spread people from seed
Speaker 2: to sign shining Sea. You know, pre snap, where you're
Speaker 2: going with the ball and you and you deliver it,
Speaker 2: and you can you can win games and get a
Speaker 2: bunch of big plays that way, so it's.
Speaker 3: A little bit of a different game.
Speaker 2: And in that regard, I think there's something too, you know,
Speaker 2: not expecting that immediately once they get.
Speaker 3: To the NFL too.
Speaker 2: I think there is some room to improve there, so
Speaker 2: you know, you can bake in some easy completions for
Speaker 2: guys early in their careers as you're trying to put
Speaker 2: more on them in terms of the processing. But I'm
Speaker 2: with him, it's an essential part of the position, but
Speaker 2: it is something that's not always easy to find.
Speaker 1: I thought that spread element was interesting, and he's right,
Speaker 1: those wide hash marks in the college game make it
Speaker 1: such a different game. He was also asked about the
Speaker 1: evaluation of left hand quarterbacks and how that might change
Speaker 1: compared to riotings because now, like Tua, there's another one
Speaker 1: coming out who's going to play football games either this
Speaker 1: year or next or down the line in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And Michael Pennix, you know, one of the things we've
Speaker 2: always said is that like with left handed quarterbacks, you
Speaker 2: have to be patient with when you bring them in,
Speaker 2: you have to be patient with your receivers just because
Speaker 2: of the adjustment it's going to take just with the spin.
Speaker 2: So you'll have some drops. It's a little bit unusual
Speaker 2: for the whiteouts to get used to it, but you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't take too long and then you can you
Speaker 2: can be good.
Speaker 3: Uh there, I.
Speaker 2: Would say from a schematic advantage, you know, I would say,
Speaker 2: you know, it just depends on on you know, some
Speaker 2: teams are some quarterbacks are really really comfortable booting to
Speaker 2: their natural hand, so to the right side, most right
Speaker 2: handed quarterbacks, they're going to be able to to deliver
Speaker 2: the ball in more areas, more locations when they're going
Speaker 2: to their natural side, as opposed to some guys going left.
Speaker 2: You've got to really crank your shoulders around and then
Speaker 2: some guys actually aren't comfortable unless they flip. So I
Speaker 2: would imagine that if you have a left handed quarterback,
Speaker 2: it just maybe opens up that other side of the
Speaker 2: field where most defenses are kind of accustomed to seeing
Speaker 2: that go one way. It can kind of mess with
Speaker 2: your eyes a little bit if you were going to
Speaker 2: be able to boot left a little bit more than
Speaker 2: you would to the right.
Speaker 3: So that would be off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the things with the we think about Penix
Speaker 2: this year is a left handed quarterback. It's it's he's
Speaker 2: unique because he's a little high cut and he has
Speaker 2: a like a three quarter arm slot delivery, so not
Speaker 2: only is left handed, looks a little bit different now
Speaker 2: where the ball's coming out and he kind of hangs
Speaker 2: on his back foot. It just it looks unusual, but
Speaker 2: it's it's really really snappy and whippy and the ball
Speaker 2: jumps out of his hand. But I think it kind
Speaker 2: of takes a while to adjust your eyes when you're
Speaker 2: watching it.
Speaker 1: Definitely punting on the combine preview. I just I spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time on that brighten down. A bunch
Speaker 1: of guys I think are gonna work out a big time,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna get We're already to the second break
Speaker 1: right here about thirty minutes into the show. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and take that last break right here, come back
Speaker 1: on the other side and finish up with three or
Speaker 1: four more here from Dane Jeremiah. That's next Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 1: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoation. Again.
Speaker 1: If you're not a fan or don't listen to the
Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast, go ahead and check it out
Speaker 1: because he talks about all kinds of stuff. Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: of the NFL Network. That regards in regards to a
Speaker 1: team building that applies to the entire National Football League,
Speaker 1: and you can build off of that and learn from
Speaker 1: that and become a better, smarter fan. So let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and play tho Q and A with DJ, who
Speaker 1: was asked about the Lions last year. I love this
Speaker 1: question An answered because the question was, do you think
Speaker 1: we'll see more of a copycat league in terms of
Speaker 1: teams that go more unconventional by going running back, linebacker,
Speaker 1: tight end safety with their first four draft picks and
Speaker 1: they all hit. But those are all non premium spots
Speaker 1: right Here's DJ.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be any any copycat here
Speaker 2: because well, I think we've focused so much on them,
Speaker 2: you know, taking those you know, quote unquote non value positions,
Speaker 2: but we've ignored the fact that, yeah, when you built,
Speaker 2: when you've already built the foundation, then you can go
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that.
Speaker 2: Draft was successful because of what they did, what Brad
Speaker 2: and those guys did previously to build up the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage on both sides. You know, they had the
Speaker 2: quarterback in place. They hit on a home run on
Speaker 2: the wide receiver, so the expensive premium positions, they'd already
Speaker 2: built the foundations that freed them up. It's a huge
Speaker 2: advantage over the rest of the league where you can
Speaker 2: take you know, the running back, can you know, obviously
Speaker 2: a tight end hits a home run, You can take
Speaker 2: off the ball, linebacker, you can do those things once
Speaker 2: the foundation is built. I still think personally the right
Speaker 2: thing to do is to build the foundation and then
Speaker 2: you can go and do what the Lions did last year.
Speaker 2: But I'm not so certain that as great as those
Speaker 2: players were, it was awesome that you would have seen
Speaker 2: them flourish and shine as much as they did if
Speaker 2: they didn't have the quarterback in place and the offense
Speaker 2: and the defensive line in place.
Speaker 1: Weird, right, because in the NFL, it's all about context
Speaker 1: and the situation, and every situation is case by case
Speaker 1: and different, and if you operate under the one overarching theme,
Speaker 1: you're probably going to make a poor decision at some
Speaker 1: point in that process. And the debate between best player available,
Speaker 1: drafting for need, all of that always about context. DJ
Speaker 1: provides some context for us right there. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and hear from DJ on the impact of a transfer
Speaker 1: portal and how that might change the NFL draft going forward.
Speaker 2: I think there's good sides to it. I think you
Speaker 2: brought up a great point there at the end one
Speaker 2: of the Uh. You know, there's two things. If you
Speaker 2: look at players that you miss on, I know you
Speaker 2: always I always go back. There's always plenty to choose
Speaker 2: from the guys that I missed on over the years,
Speaker 2: and try and self scout, and when you talk to
Speaker 2: teams and get information on maybe why it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Two things happen a lot are they don't know, they
Speaker 2: don't know how to handle adversity. And then other thing
Speaker 2: is sometimes they don't know how to handle you know, money, fame,
Speaker 2: all all that kind of stuff that goes along with it,
Speaker 2: all the distractions that money can can bring.
Speaker 3: So now you're getting a chance.
Speaker 2: To see them in that situation basically be a professional
Speaker 2: before they even get to you, and see how they
Speaker 2: how they handle themselves. So I think that can that
Speaker 2: can be a plus. The transfer thing in terms of
Speaker 2: impacting guys in grades, no, I mean that that's it's
Speaker 2: not really an issue anymore. I know once upon a
Speaker 2: time you could say, oh I didn't work out here
Speaker 2: or there it would come up in draft meetings. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm getting to the point now where I'm
Speaker 2: old enough to remember when I first started in three
Speaker 2: that I remember discussions in the draft from about a
Speaker 2: player having tattoos, and I think about how silly that
Speaker 2: is when we fast forward twenty years ago. So yeah,
Speaker 2: some things become less and less important, and nobody really
Speaker 2: cares about the transfer thing anymore.
Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and play this next answer
Speaker 1: here from DJ because it includes a couple of Organ
Speaker 1: Ducks and the guy that I've talked about in the
Speaker 1: podcast a lot. He was asked about Troy Franklin, the Lean,
Speaker 1: a tall, explosive receiver from Organ, and Jackson Powers Johnson
Speaker 1: who might be the best player in the entire damn draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun, fun guys to study, and with Franklin. Look,
Speaker 2: I gave him a good grade to my first listing.
Speaker 2: He's my thirty ninth player. I liked him a lot,
Speaker 2: But I think I'll end up coming up on him
Speaker 2: because I just finished, you know, going through all these
Speaker 2: guys for the combine, and I saw a lot of
Speaker 2: corners with a lot of blood on their hands. Courtesy
Speaker 2: of Franklin I mean, he just runs by everybody so
Speaker 2: big time, big time juice, tall, lean, explosive, he can
Speaker 2: beat press with his quickness. He's cleaning out of brakes
Speaker 2: for a taller guy. It's just it is. It's fun
Speaker 2: to watch him really track the ball and go get it.
Speaker 2: A big time home run hitter. So I think he's
Speaker 2: I think he'll go twenty. He's the thirties, he's gonna
Speaker 2: he's gonna go somewhere in there. I expect he'll probably run
Speaker 2: really fast.
Speaker 3: In Indie.
Speaker 2: We look at the center Jackson powers Johnson. It's hard
Speaker 2: to find guys that big that can move like that.
Speaker 2: You know, three hundred and thirty four pounds. You can't
Speaker 2: get through them. He just kind of catches guys and
Speaker 2: absorbs them. In pass pro, he's quick to the second level.
Speaker 2: He's really good on combo blocks. He's got some nasty
Speaker 2: to him. He's a bulldog, got some realpe, some snap
Speaker 2: and some pop in his hands. He was having a
Speaker 2: great week until he got nicked up at the Senior
Speaker 2: Bowl too, So you know, I think he's I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna find his way into the to the bottom
Speaker 2: portion of the first round. He's too clean of a
Speaker 2: player and it's just somebody that can anchor your offensive
Speaker 2: line for the next decade.
Speaker 1: Now we get a specific Miami Dolphins question. Who was
Speaker 1: asked about the Dolphins philosophy in the twenties with the
Speaker 1: roster of the way it's built going after an impact
Speaker 1: player more for the future. Here's DJA and how he
Speaker 1: views the Dolphins, and this opening line is why I
Speaker 1: want to include this answer.
Speaker 3: To me, you're the You're the Dolphins. You were right
Speaker 3: in the smack dab in the middle of your window.
Speaker 2: So yeah, to me, you can look at upside, you know,
Speaker 2: guys that are ready right now. I would probably look
Speaker 2: you know, I always think about what Ozen used to
Speaker 2: used to always say, let's just hit doubles in the
Speaker 2: first round, they'll strike out.
Speaker 3: I think I'm the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: I want somebody to come in and can help me
Speaker 2: that I, you know, feel as a rock solid player
Speaker 2: ready to roll right now. That would be, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of the area that I'd be leaning to. If
Speaker 2: you have a choice between player A player B. I
Speaker 2: might be a little more conscious of the floor just
Speaker 2: you know, just personally where they are. And a lot
Speaker 2: of times those high floor picks end up being really
Speaker 2: really good players.
Speaker 1: And yeah, first, I just love that we got that
Speaker 1: opening line from me because I really can't conceive the
Speaker 1: idea of the window closing, and I see it across
Speaker 1: the fan base. This is the last year of the window,
Speaker 1: the cap hell, YadA YadA yah. But then you see
Speaker 1: Chris Career as stoic as ever, basically saying, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not worried about that right now. I mean, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, there's some work to be done with the
Speaker 1: cap situation ahead of the league year, but like this
Speaker 1: is every year for every team for the most part,
Speaker 1: at least the teams that can tend. The only teams
Speaker 1: with oodles of money to spend are the ones who
Speaker 1: finished with four and five wins because they don't have
Speaker 1: talent on their football team. The joke, right, players are great,
Speaker 1: but have you ever had cap space? If we have
Speaker 1: cap space, we could even get a player like Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill or Bradley Chubb. That's the family guy joke, right,
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a boat or the mystery prize? About? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: hang on low. Worst, now, we don't even know what
Speaker 1: the mystery prize is. It could even be about it's
Speaker 1: a horrible Peter Griffin. Maybe I do a little bit
Speaker 1: better of a Cleveland, But yeah, twenty five year old
Speaker 1: quarterback who's posted top five stats and gotten better every
Speaker 1: single year league leader and passer rating and then league
Speaker 1: leader in yardage the following year, with one of the
Speaker 1: best play designers in play callers, with a group of
Speaker 1: maybe the most dangerous eligibles, with a defense littered with playmakers.
Speaker 1: Like if I told you in twenty sixteen that was
Speaker 1: the Dolphins roster and I just told you about the
Speaker 1: quarterback and the head coach and play caller, you would say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to be contending for ten years because we
Speaker 1: have the two most important spots that we haven't had
Speaker 1: since Shoela and Reno. Now you have it, and there
Speaker 1: will be changes, and you might even lose a really player,
Speaker 1: But these are good team problems. Guys. They brought those
Speaker 1: guys in. Now they have to replace some of them.
Speaker 1: Maybe just because it's different doesn't mean it's worse. Just
Speaker 1: remember that. Let's go ahead and hear more from DJ
Speaker 1: here on a Jets specific question. But I'm not playing
Speaker 1: it for that reason. I'm playing it because he talks
Speaker 1: about the idea of stacking value in the draft, where
Speaker 1: the tackles rank versus the receivers. I thought that was
Speaker 1: pertinent to us, So let's go ahead and play that.
Speaker 1: He was asked about, should the Jets go tackle first,
Speaker 1: receiver second or vice versa. Here's DJ Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I look, everybody's talking about the Jets. Do
Speaker 2: you go wide out? Do you go tackle with that
Speaker 2: first pick? I know one thing, if you can get
Speaker 2: the tackle, I feel a lot better about the third
Speaker 2: round wide outs than I do about the route the
Speaker 2: third round tackle. So that to me, would make that
Speaker 2: I would lean more in that tackle direction early. Because
Speaker 2: in the third round you got some really really interesting guys.
Speaker 2: You know, Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky's got, you know,
Speaker 2: big time juice, big time run after catch stuff. He
Speaker 2: is a is a total stud. You've got Roman Wilson
Speaker 2: from Michigan who can fly. Talked about him a little earlier.
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll from Florida, who's just a real loose, fluid,
Speaker 2: excellent route runner, and you know, get some insane catches
Speaker 2: they won't again.
Speaker 3: Charlotte, he might have the catch of the year. Of
Speaker 3: all these guys, in the draft.
Speaker 2: His Catchkin Charlott's ridiculous, but real quick, real fast, and
Speaker 2: can make some things happen after the catch.
Speaker 3: I can go on.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a bunch of wide receivers. Every
Speaker 2: year we do this, every year we talk about this.
Speaker 2: It's a really really intriguing mix of white out. So
Speaker 2: in the tackle whiteout discussion, I think if it's closed,
Speaker 2: you go tackle early. You can come back for the
Speaker 2: wide out safeties in that third round range. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got Javon Bullard from Georgia, good player. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens with with Jayden Hicks from Washington State. If
Speaker 2: he runs well, he'll he'll probably be gone by then.
Speaker 2: But you also have like Malik Mustafa from from Wake Forest,
Speaker 2: Tike Smith from Georgia. There's some interesting guys, some interesting safeties.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a great safety class. I don't
Speaker 2: think we even have one. You know, maybe Nuban goes
Speaker 2: in the top fifty from Minnesota in the second round.
Speaker 2: Back man, we might not have a safety in the
Speaker 2: top fifty picks as possible.
Speaker 1: All right, So I have some more thoughts here to
Speaker 1: give you guys. I always love these if this, then
Speaker 1: that type of scenarios come to draft. And I thought
Speaker 1: he gave a good glimpse there of what these two
Speaker 1: position groups look like and how teams could wind up
Speaker 1: stacking them. And you've heard me talk about receivers a
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, and I think sometimes I do this
Speaker 1: thing on the podcast where I don't always explain things
Speaker 1: the way I guess I assume everyone knows, so allow
Speaker 1: me to be better about that. And I realized it
Speaker 1: talking to a buddy of mine the other day who
Speaker 1: was far from a Dolphins fan. He asked me, what
Speaker 1: do I think the team should do? And I mentioned
Speaker 1: another guy that can beat one on one coverage versus
Speaker 1: really would be really nice for this team. And his response, yeah,
Speaker 1: like two ineusible weapons. Okay, Bud. I'm like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: don't text me then, jerk. And I took that personally
Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan, but for real, like, yeah he does.
Speaker 1: And this is why. So we know Tyreek and Jalen
Speaker 1: missed some time last year, right, and even when they
Speaker 1: were available at times, they weren't a hundred and man,
Speaker 1: I watched him that Titans game again. The ankle injury
Speaker 1: to Tyreek is the difference in the game, which is
Speaker 1: the difference in the division if you ask me, sy right,
Speaker 1: But Tyreek played six hundred and ninety five snaps last year,
Speaker 1: sixty three percent of our total. Wattle played six to
Speaker 1: eleven that's fifty six percent of our total. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, they both played all seventeen games, so that's
Speaker 1: without injuries. Tyreek played eight hundred snaps, that's seventy six percent,
Speaker 1: so he was down thirteen percent this last year because
Speaker 1: of injuries. Wattle played seven to eighty five seventy four percent,
Speaker 1: so he was down eighteen percent because of injuries. So
Speaker 1: even when they played seventeen games, that's two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty seven snaps without Tyreek, it's two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: two snaps without Wattle. That is five hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: nine snaps collectively, and that's with thirty four games played
Speaker 1: among them. And look, hey, they run more than any
Speaker 1: other receiver in football. I am not at all complaining
Speaker 1: about the usage. You should do that and keep them fresh.
Speaker 1: I'm just illustrating a point at how many other wide
Speaker 1: receiver reps there are to be had. This is far
Speaker 1: from a two man position. For us or for anybody
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. More realistically, it's a four
Speaker 1: man deal, and then if you have injuries like we did,
Speaker 1: probably five or six. So that's why I think wide
Speaker 1: receiver is definitely something to look at, or even a
Speaker 1: top priority or tight end. I suppose just another dynamic
Speaker 1: player at the eligibles would go a long long way
Speaker 1: to giving us more options where we struggled at times
Speaker 1: on third downs when those guys were down or when
Speaker 1: those guys commanded the full attention of the defense and
Speaker 1: we didn't have the other person take the way off
Speaker 1: of those players. Because we're talking about five hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty nine snaps without those two from twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty nine snaps is a fifty percent player.
Speaker 1: That's a big role on your offense. If you're talking
Speaker 1: about this year twenty twenty three, eight hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: snaps without those guys, you get what I'm saying here,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety snaps would be eighty two percent
Speaker 1: of our workload. That would be the third most on
Speaker 1: our offense. So we need that player. So if you're
Speaker 1: looking at somewhere between a fifty five to eighty five
Speaker 1: percent player. Shouldn't you have more than zero or eleven
Speaker 1: or eighty five that we had last year? Each of
Speaker 1: those those guys feels like a fine fifth or fourth,
Speaker 1: but you need at least one more, right, And if
Speaker 1: the argument is it's too expensive to go big at
Speaker 1: number three, it probably is, then it has to be
Speaker 1: the draft, right. That's why I tell you about Malachai Corley,
Speaker 1: So why I tell you about Roman Wilson. And we'll
Speaker 1: have more names for you guys right there. And also
Speaker 1: Eric Azukama time to step up. That's why I think
Speaker 1: you look at these receivers closely this offseason and you
Speaker 1: take a look at the guys that make the most sense.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and finish up with this last one
Speaker 1: here that I asked DJ. I'll go ahead and play
Speaker 1: the full Q and a hey, DJ, appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: As always on these we saw both shanahan and McVeigh
Speaker 1: this year pivot to a little bit more man and
Speaker 1: gap running schemes and some more true drop back passes
Speaker 1: addition to their wide zone and play action games. I'm
Speaker 1: curious which players in this year's O line class have
Speaker 1: the trades required to be part of an offense that
Speaker 1: really wants to be that versatile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: I mean to me, I always look at interior guys
Speaker 2: that have some tackle ability but can also move people.
Speaker 2: So in other words, like a guy like Dominic Pooney
Speaker 2: from Kansas who's played left tackle and then goes inside
Speaker 2: of the Senior Bowl was excellent there. He's three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty three pounds, so he can move people, but
Speaker 2: he can still move So I think guy like that
Speaker 2: give you versatility.
Speaker 3: Another one a guy like Brandon Coleman.
Speaker 2: From TCU, probably like you know in that third round
Speaker 2: range that's played left tackle, can kick inside and play guard.
Speaker 2: He's three hundred and sixteen pounds, so he kind of
Speaker 2: has that skill set as well that they can they
Speaker 2: can do anything. I really think the top three centers
Speaker 2: are guys that fit that mold as well. You know,
Speaker 2: with Jackson Powers, Johnson, Graham Barton from Duke Zach Frazier
Speaker 2: from West Virginia. All three of those guys can move
Speaker 2: you at the point of attack. All three of them
Speaker 2: are over three hundred and ten pounds.
Speaker 3: And they're athletic.
Speaker 2: So those guys, that's a group of interior guys to
Speaker 2: me that I think would fit there. And then you
Speaker 2: know the tackle wise, this this draft just has a
Speaker 2: ton of them that should be able to do a
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff. One guy we haven't mentioned who
Speaker 2: I really liked is a guy Blake Fisher from Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: So he's a good one.
Speaker 2: He can, he's a right tackle, he has good foot speed,
Speaker 2: he can get out do some of the things in space.
Speaker 2: But he's got some power to him as well. So
Speaker 2: that those are you know, just a few names there
Speaker 2: that I think would kind of fit that that versatile
Speaker 2: type guy.
Speaker 3: You're looking for.
Speaker 1: There we go, man, I love that episode. Really good stuff.
Speaker 1: They're very informative. We'll talk to DJ again for the
Speaker 1: podcast tomorrow. I'll ask him like six specific Dolphins questions
Speaker 1: for you guys. We'll get into that. I'll save my
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