WEBVTT - Drive Time: Dolphins Highlights from Daniel Jeremiah’s Conference Call

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<v Speaker 1>To on remove Golm deep speedles peas do. From the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got my ad hands in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show

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<v Speaker 1>it is combine work. We're off to Indianapolis taking a

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<v Speaker 1>look at athletes running around and spandex and short shorts,

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<v Speaker 1>going nanners on all the crazy workouts they do and

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<v Speaker 1>what that could do for the complexion of the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus sound bites for Daniel Jeremiah's Thursday conference call, some

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on those, plus latest Dolphins news like some different

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<v Speaker 1>releases that happened over the weekend slash end of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>and some ideas about free agency, the salary cap, and

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot more. From the Baptist Health Studios inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Drivetime Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye daffy, sirs, And just like that, we are off

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<v Speaker 1>to Indianapolis. By the time you guys hear this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably wheels up en route to the scouting combine en route.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and get you prepared for what the

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<v Speaker 1>week will look like. So I'm not exactly sure how

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<v Speaker 1>many shows we're going to do. This is another one

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<v Speaker 1>of those situations where I often want to work more

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<v Speaker 1>than I'm allowed to. It's a beauty of having a

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<v Speaker 1>job that you love. I get to all the time. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>back it down, man, Just chill out and do three shows,

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<v Speaker 1>like I kind of want to do five shows. So

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be five because that's what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there will be one tomorrow, the rare Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>off season show because Mike McDaniel speaks, will also have

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<v Speaker 1>one on Wednesday, your normally scheduled programming because Chris Greer Speaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Will get tons, tons of fresh new Dolphins nuggies like

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<v Speaker 1>I have for you guys today coming up. Plus I

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<v Speaker 1>will also have interviews recorded by that time with the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Daniel Jeremiah Whoops, and I have so many questions

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm fired up to ask him. I'm just fired

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<v Speaker 1>up to be here, you know, Jordan Reid and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Miller to name a few. So we'll get those episodes

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<v Speaker 1>out to you by Tuesday and Wednesday evening there will

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<v Speaker 1>be at least one more episode later on in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>could be Thursday, could be Friday. Maybe beep yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>quote Mark Wahlberg in The Departed. I'll have plenty of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>just organizing how it all looks. Plus we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Krabs, I'll talk to the bootleg guys. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Spielberger, the Gap, Gap Cap, and freakin' you know,

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<v Speaker 1>free agency expert, the Guru. Thats what I might say,

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<v Speaker 1>Guru with Cap on the front gee for Cap turns

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<v Speaker 1>into Gap.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on like my second coffee. It's nine thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I have to do this. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to pack, I have to take some clothes back that

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<v Speaker 1>I bought at the mall. Who goes to the mall anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm feeling a little bit weird, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to thee all this time, like in five hours. So

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<v Speaker 1>bear with me here. So we're gonna get to all

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<v Speaker 1>those interviews. We'll also have some sound bye from players

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<v Speaker 1>at their podiums, some general draft content that you're used

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<v Speaker 1>to on this podcast, and before any of that, on

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<v Speaker 1>this Monday, I'm feeling weird, man. I thought Daniel Jeremiah's

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<v Speaker 1>conference call last week was great, as it always is,

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<v Speaker 1>So I do want to play you guys some highlights

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<v Speaker 1>from that podcast. We'll also get to our Combine preview,

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<v Speaker 1>but first, I think this will be the segment that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys like the most on this show. And I

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<v Speaker 1>saw some of the comments on the reviews about the

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<v Speaker 1>shack was released. Yeah, you're right about that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been fun. I'm having a lot of fun getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to more opinion and more you know, just being myself

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys in the show here and with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about some elements of the upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>off season. It's just a couple of weeks away, guys. Freezency,

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<v Speaker 1>like on my favorite times a year, is right around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to have Washington State in the NSA

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<v Speaker 1>Tournament this year. We'll also have the new net the

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<v Speaker 1>second season of Full Swing as the golf heusing kicks

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<v Speaker 1>off with the Players Championship really getting into full here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fun time of year. So I start here

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<v Speaker 1>by talking about these salary cap news that came down

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<v Speaker 1>the wire. Was it Friday or Thursday? I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Friday's I had already published the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe I didn't. I don't know. Once again, Mark Wahlberg, go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff yourself. So the cap is going, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's official now going to be around two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars this year, the largest increase, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the last I don't know, the last twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, the biggest jumping and salary cap like thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>percent increase in what it was the year prior. And

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<v Speaker 1>what that means, so essentially, what that means is the

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of the top tier contracts is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>way up. What else that means is the second tier

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<v Speaker 1>of free agency is going to really suffer. From a

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<v Speaker 1>player's perspective, they're going to get less money because the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger chunk of the pie, as it does in this league,

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<v Speaker 1>goes to quarterbacks and the top paid premier players at

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<v Speaker 1>premier positions. So Christian Wilkins contract ask probably just went up.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Hunts probably just went up a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's nice about it is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the market that I think that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>live on. They're going to be at an even more

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<v Speaker 1>reduced cost right now. And I'm talking about a Deshaun

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott you can bring back. I'm talking about probably an

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Van Ginkle you can bring back. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even Isaiah Win who maybe can't, maybe doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a contract right away, Ryb he has to come back

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<v Speaker 1>here on a one year, two million dollar deal and

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<v Speaker 1>scept in August. You know, I'm not that's just speculation

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<v Speaker 1>and speaking to the future, but those are the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of players that are going to be hit the most

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<v Speaker 1>by this in terms of the bigger chunk of the

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<v Speaker 1>pie going upwards. But ma'am, that's where you want to

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<v Speaker 1>live because I see these complaints, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>see Kyle's discord from Lockdown Dolphins and the complaints about

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<v Speaker 1>Chris career, and I never understand the criticisms there. I

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<v Speaker 1>get the whole hasn't won a playoff game thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>like those aren't those I mean, that's use your process

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out why we haven't won those playoff game

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<v Speaker 1>because the roster, the trade acquisitions, the drafting, like free

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<v Speaker 1>agency hasn't been great for us, but the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>it has been really good. In roster What am I

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<v Speaker 1>looking for here? And roster construction, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep seeing this arguments about like, oh, this one

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<v Speaker 1>move means that Chris career is done a bad job.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Byron Jones for instance. You know a five year

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<v Speaker 1>pro who had made all pro teams and missed one

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<v Speaker 1>game and once popped his kneecap back into place after

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<v Speaker 1>dislocation mid game and kept on going, like I swear

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<v Speaker 1>some of the foresight or some of the comments I

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<v Speaker 1>see and their expectation of foresight for players you acquire,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's wild to think that that was like some

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<v Speaker 1>move like oh, how could he ever sign Byron Jones?

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<v Speaker 1>We were fired up about Byron Jones when he got signed.

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<v Speaker 1>But the nice part is, and I keep saying this,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you won't take my word for it, I

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<v Speaker 1>constantly refer to people that know about this frankly better

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<v Speaker 1>than I do. You know, never have been much of

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<v Speaker 1>a cap or contract guy, because sometimes when I stare

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<v Speaker 1>at numbers, it makes my freaking brain hurt. Words. I

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<v Speaker 1>have the best ways, a head, many moods, but numbers

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. But I do believe that understanding

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<v Speaker 1>your shortcomings is a strength. But I digress. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins build in this flexibility into the contracts they do

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<v Speaker 1>every single year they are one of the most risk adverse,

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<v Speaker 1>but also put themselves in position to take risk because

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<v Speaker 1>of how they structure contracts. And we'll talk to Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Spielberger of PFF about this later on this week. But

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<v Speaker 1>I look back to the Kyle van Ney and Shack

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<v Speaker 1>loss In contracts. They got out of those deals after

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<v Speaker 1>one year, and it wasn't very punitive to Miami. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the one bad contract the Dolphins gave out recently was

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<v Speaker 1>the Xavian Howard redo. But that's kind of like an

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<v Speaker 1>Exaviing Howard issue, right, we'll talk about that here in

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<v Speaker 1>just one second. And when you constantly shop at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the market, you're going to have stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this happen because you wind up paying in free agency

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty cents on the dollar. When you live in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mike McGlinchey in the Christian Kirk world of paying

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen million dollars for the thirty fifth best receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football Did you feel me on that? So

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<v Speaker 1>that's not where I want to live. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>live in Tier two and get my impact players like

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Deshaun Elliott's, you know in this instance, and Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Van Ginkle because Gink is deserving a big money. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all agree on that, but comparative to the

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<v Speaker 1>top pass rushers, it's not going to be twenty million, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be fifteen. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ten million. Most likely maybe eight that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's second tier money for an edge rusher. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you want to live, and especially bringing guys

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<v Speaker 1>back in your own program. Real quick, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and divert here because we've got some news over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Agba, who was probably the first guy to like

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<v Speaker 1>really develop a true friendship with me outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>actual football. He got here in twenty twenty, so did I,

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<v Speaker 1>and we became pretty good buddies there. So Emmanuel Agba

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<v Speaker 1>has been released by the Miami Dolphins. Great two years

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<v Speaker 1>for him. The last two years of his ten year

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami didn't really work out, but he was a

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<v Speaker 1>really really good, really important player almost twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one rosters and I'm gonna miss having around really really

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<v Speaker 1>good dude Xavien Howard. The Dolphins will release him with

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<v Speaker 1>a post June one designation, per reports that one's notofficial yet,

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<v Speaker 1>And just like that, through those two moves and the

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<v Speaker 1>salary cap jumping up to two hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars when we were fifty two million dollars over the

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<v Speaker 1>cap four days ago. It's been reduced by more than

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<v Speaker 1>half twenty five million dollars over the cap now. So

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<v Speaker 1>like I told you guys this right, and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep going that way. You're gonna lop off some more

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<v Speaker 1>parts that give you more flexibility. You're gonna see more

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<v Speaker 1>extensions like Tua's extension will knock the number down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. And the nice thing about drafting, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>have other extensions that you can execute which would achieve

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<v Speaker 1>the same goal of shifting cap down the line. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>is that a great process when it comes to eight

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<v Speaker 1>years down the road? Maybe not. Maybe you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take another twenty nineteen year, another twenty nineteen pill in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a certain year would be let's let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>in eight years from now, Tua gets injured, Like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>take your pill and let's go ahead and reset the

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<v Speaker 1>books right here. But like that's way down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can achieve this idea of creating more space

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<v Speaker 1>and more flexibility, which I don't I'm not advocating for

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<v Speaker 1>for top of the line free agents just forgetting my

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<v Speaker 1>no offense of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can do this with Jalen Waddle, with Jalen Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get paid, right. That's the business of drafting

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<v Speaker 1>good and doing so at premium spots. It'll affords you

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to get those players in twenty four and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five for pretty cheap if you I want to

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<v Speaker 1>backload those deals because I trust that both Waddle and

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips are going to be Dolphins lifers. But even still, again,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you have the money, man, do not live

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the free agent market because it

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty maybe forty cents on the dollar. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to put a pin in that because

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a full episode to me exploring past

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<v Speaker 1>top of the market contracts. Like again, I mentioned Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk earlier. I think Christian Kirk's a very good football player.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved him when he got drafted out of A

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<v Speaker 1>and M I thought the Jaguars spent way too much

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<v Speaker 1>on him, even though I think he's an important player

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<v Speaker 1>for that team and a very good player in the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of the national Football league. Is he a seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar player? I don't think so. It's not good

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<v Speaker 1>business by the very nature of it, by its very

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<v Speaker 1>core description. So that's kind of my diatribe here about

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, available money, the GM, all that stuff, the

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<v Speaker 1>cap going up. But also just a couple more notes here.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be surprised if that nugget was floated out there

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<v Speaker 1>about xaviing Howard with the idea of potentially trading him

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<v Speaker 1>at the new league year, Like why not say, hey, Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be there. You need a veteran corner

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<v Speaker 1>alongside Derek Stingley. Why not give us a sixth round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick and take some less money off of our hands.

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<v Speaker 1>That could happen, or maybe you give him a six

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick, like whatever the case may be. You

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<v Speaker 1>could get yourself out of that penalty a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with a bad contract, which, by the way, back on

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<v Speaker 1>that again, the demands of that guy were very infuriating

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the whole process. Refuse to take a pay cut

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<v Speaker 1>the time around, Like not a lot of love lost there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, great player for the Dolphins for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>but that situation was, you know, getting himself an off

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<v Speaker 1>off field trouble. I'm kind of glad to be out

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<v Speaker 1>of that headache. I just don't really care for that

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<v Speaker 1>type of stuff. Give me a saint, give me a two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Christian Wilkins. This the last note I have

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<v Speaker 1>on here before. Actually, no it's not. That's a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did put Christian Wilkins in my notes here

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<v Speaker 1>because I've thought about this over the weekend, and the

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<v Speaker 1>extra money we got from the salary cap bump makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think that's a slam dunk deal, and I've moved

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion to I have to have him back, non negotiable,

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<v Speaker 1>give him what he wants. I need him back because

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<v Speaker 1>going from two hundred and thirty eight projected cap to

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty will probably raise his price a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But that's also two players. Because Christian Wilkins

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<v Speaker 1>plays eight hundred, nine hundred snaps a year out of

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<v Speaker 1>year one thousand, year eleven hundred that you play, that's

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<v Speaker 1>two players. I mean, Ray Kwan Davis is a four

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<v Speaker 1>or five hundred snap player, Like, you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>two of those guys. If you open up Christian Wilkins,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to go get two new players. And

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<v Speaker 1>the chances of both those guys hitting and giving you

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<v Speaker 1>production at the level kommesrate that you paid them with

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<v Speaker 1>is not great. If I pay Christian, I know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting. I have him and Zach Seeler. I

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<v Speaker 1>basically don't have to worry about defensive tackle depth because

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<v Speaker 1>they never leave the field, they never get hurt, They're

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<v Speaker 1>tough as hell, and they fight through everything, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal football players. I would not break that up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys are so valuable to this team, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the situation the way it is right now,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely do that. And so that's why those are the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of players I wouldn't mind spending the twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>plus on because they're not important products that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if they work in your program. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Wilkins works here. He has his routine down. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kick his shirt from the shower all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the locker. One of my favorite player quirks of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. After he gets out of the shower after practice,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got his talent, his slides on, and he kicks

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<v Speaker 1>his T shirt from the shower all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to his locker with a very slow crawl walk. It's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy is one of my favorite human beings because

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<v Speaker 1>of how weird he is. I just love that. So

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<v Speaker 1>get him back in the building. I expect that to

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<v Speaker 1>happen sooner than later. So just on top of all that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I keep seeing this this is last how here

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to some actual podcast content that I

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<v Speaker 1>promised you. I keep seeing this thing about like it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a boring off season because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the same expectations that we had last year. Who cares, man, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't we learned this by now? That's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>I get where you're coming from. I kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>the same way after the loss to Kansas City or

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<v Speaker 1>after the lost of Buffalo even kind of trailing into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But who gives a damn about off season perception? Does

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<v Speaker 1>it ever ever match up for more than a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of teams that you predict every single year out of

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty two Like the team will look different, no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about that. But you can just go get other

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<v Speaker 1>good players. They exist in the draft and free agency

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<v Speaker 1>and on the market, Like we brought in Brandon Shell

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<v Speaker 1>one time mid season to compete at the right tackle position.

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<v Speaker 1>He played okay, like you can find you can find

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<v Speaker 1>new players, right. The system's good, the quarterback's good, the

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<v Speaker 1>coach is good. That there's certain premium spots in place

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<v Speaker 1>that are good. You can round out the rest and

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<v Speaker 1>so like. Who cares about expectations? Man, Buffalo? Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>after two years ago they had these Super Bowl aspirations

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<v Speaker 1>got knocked out in the divisional round. Last year. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>said their window had closed and they couldn't compete anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looked that way in the beginning, but then

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<v Speaker 1>they rattle off six straight wins and put themselves right

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<v Speaker 1>back in the same spot where they Oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost again. But I think everybody was picking them

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<v Speaker 1>to beat Casey at home in the divisional round and

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<v Speaker 1>make a run, right, Everyone thought that was gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>either then were Baltimore didn't happen that way? Or how

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<v Speaker 1>about Houston who I predicted to go four and thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and they won the damn division? How about the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>if they had any visions of going what was it

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<v Speaker 1>eight to nine this year? Look at Philadelphia? Weren't they

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<v Speaker 1>ten to one at one point? How does it look

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<v Speaker 1>right now, like, who cares about perception? Let it play out,

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<v Speaker 1>have fun, enjoy the guys you have, get to know them.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I did a mock off season real quick

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<v Speaker 1>to put a boat on this first segment where I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to extend to a waddle Phillips and Holland

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad court, right, and some good draft picks

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<v Speaker 1>there too, to re sign Christian Wilkins, Robert Hunt, Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>BEng Ginkle. I also put to Shaun Elliott and Elijah

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell in there. I also added Andre James, Noah Fan,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Settle, Trevis Gibson a free agency that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>nose tackle in Tim Settle. That's Trevis Gibson outside Rushier

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<v Speaker 1>who worked with Ryan Crow and Tennessee. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know Noah Fan the tight end from Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andre James, the center who would be coming here

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<v Speaker 1>and anchor the middle of the offensive line. And then

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<v Speaker 1>draft Troy Fatano who's my left guard in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four and my left tackle in twenty twenty five, Roman Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think is a great receiver prospect, Cedric van

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<v Speaker 1>Prant from Georgia the center slash guard, and then Shaw

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Wade. Now that's mock draft. Who knows what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell's there, But the team's going to look different. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the players you add, they're pretty good. Last note here,

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<v Speaker 1>DCC absolute rock and success, over seventy five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>raised in the fourteen years. Seth and I did a

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<v Speaker 1>two hour radio program, had the great Jalen phillips on.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to meet Malachia, five year old cancer survivor.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job, Malachi, go get them, buddy. You beat the

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<v Speaker 1>crap out of that crappy cancer. Just a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun to see all you guys out there, the support,

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<v Speaker 1>the writers, just a really fun community event. If you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten out for that in past in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>come check out DCC fifteen next year. It's a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go ahead and take a break right

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<v Speaker 1>there and get to the news conference of Daniel Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 1>which he gave us tons of great nuggets, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have some thoughts on said nuggets. That's next Draft Time

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoonation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a chance that I punt on the

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<v Speaker 1>Freaks List and the Combine workout preview because this conference call,

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<v Speaker 1>I cut the audio and didn't realize how much I

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<v Speaker 1>had and wanted to use. So I'm using a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of what he actually talked about, because it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>two hour conference call taking questions from different beat writers

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<v Speaker 1>who asked teams specific questions, national writers who asked general

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<v Speaker 1>draft questions. I asked about specific offensive line players you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear at the end of this news conference here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go ahead and just start with a

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<v Speaker 1>collection of players I think are good players. It would

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<v Speaker 1>fit from Miami, some general NFL team building philosophy, thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>just everything DJ has to offer, which is draft expert analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>team building, construction, allocation, all that stuff. Very comprehensive and

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<v Speaker 1>what he does, I want to go ahead and use

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<v Speaker 1>that lee into it. And we start here. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is in order of how he went, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>stacking these in any certain order. Okay, guys, But he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Michigan players, and he was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>JJ McCarthy and camped him to Alex Smith coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of college, which I found pretty interesting. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and fast forward that because McCarthy off

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<v Speaker 1>the board before we pick. Also not really a player

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<v Speaker 1>or a position that we're interested in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I do love Michael Pennix. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I think he's a good looking football player,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't use a pick on it because we

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback. But just let you know that's my

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the quarterback class. But he talked about McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I cut that part out and use the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the players he discussed here. Because there's two

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<v Speaker 1>guys he mentions whose game I love. Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and hear from DJ about the Michigan prospects he likes

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<v Speaker 1>the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Junior Colson, the linebacker, who I think is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best linebackers in this draft. Is a plug and

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<v Speaker 2>play guy. Roman Wilson, who reminds me of Jayden Reid

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<v Speaker 2>from the Packers. Is just really dynamic and was awesome

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<v Speaker 2>at the Senior Bowl. And then Mike Sandristill, the nickel

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<v Speaker 2>who just makes all kinds of plays, had six picks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's supposed to be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great leader from everything I've been told, can really find

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<v Speaker 2>and play the ball, and I think might be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit faster than people expect. So those are three

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm really high on.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really talked about Sam Rastill a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is just a nickel that makes all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of plays, total playmaker, alpha mentality, Tasmanian devil, like we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, He's a guy that I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the program. I do think that he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit out of our range in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>positional value team need and where he probably goes in

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<v Speaker 1>this year's draft. Plus there's other players that you like

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<v Speaker 1>at different spots as well. So a player that I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to get in here, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>the value works out there. And then of course Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson to continue to go back to him. You heard

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<v Speaker 1>DJ talk about, and they're Jaden Reid from the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>really good looking player, and the way Wilson dominated the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. We've seen players do that over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the last decade, and typically when they dominate those

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<v Speaker 1>guys out there in the Senior Bowl, they do the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing in the pros. Let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>bump it here to a next question. That was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a general quarterback philosophy and how the league is

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<v Speaker 1>operating right now, And I love using this stuff because,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the great Peter King retired today or

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<v Speaker 1>announced it, and he gave you some other options for

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<v Speaker 1>who to read a weekly call him from and I

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<v Speaker 1>like the names that he listed, and I love Ben Solak.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong about this from the Ringer, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends of the podcast, longtime friend in the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a gap in this. Sound like

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<v Speaker 1>an old man here. This tends to be a younger

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<v Speaker 1>person thing. But like man, the only traits that people

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<v Speaker 1>seem to view of a certain age is like arm strength, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and es capability, which are great. They're fun, playmaker type

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<v Speaker 1>of traits to have them. They catch the highlight reels.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, processing continues to be what wins in this league. Processing, accuracy,

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<v Speaker 1>decision making, managing a situation in a game, all are great.

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<v Speaker 1>If you compare those with elite trades, that's even better.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and hear from DJ who was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Super Bowl quarterbacks brock perty and Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>different paths to that stage and how the NFL has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adopted or molded or the evolution of how

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<v Speaker 1>you evaluate the quarterbacks coming out of the draft. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is Daniel Jeremiah on some of the trades team are

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<v Speaker 1>looking at more nowadays than they were maybe just a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was talking to a general manager the

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<v Speaker 2>other day and I said, I think that maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing harder than playing quarterback in this league might

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<v Speaker 2>be evaluating quarterback coming into this league. Because every time

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<v Speaker 2>you think you've you've got an answer, you've got some

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<v Speaker 2>things figured out, you've got the formula something, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody comes out and flips it on its head. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's something you're always trying to learn. I think

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<v Speaker 2>kind of it goes in little waves, and right now

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to be there's a there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>talk and chatter about guys that have experienced and they

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<v Speaker 2>have played a lot of games, and brock Perty's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the poster child for that. But guys that have

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<v Speaker 2>been in college for a while, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get the time to develop in the NFL that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you would previously. Because the financial commitment isn't as big,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easier for teams to cycle through guys, throw them

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<v Speaker 2>out there for two years, it doesn't work. We can

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<v Speaker 2>flush them and go on to the next one. So

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<v Speaker 2>you want them once they get on the field, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have to get on the field early to have some.

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<v Speaker 3>More experience under the belt.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's been something I think people have given more

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<v Speaker 2>credence to the last couple of years, is the guys

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<v Speaker 2>who have some starts, which in this draft it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because you've got you know, Nix and Pennix who have

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<v Speaker 2>just played a ton of football, and people can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about where the ceiling is for these guys or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how much growth is.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are ready to play.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to step in and have a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>start right away and it's not going to be too

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<v Speaker 2>big for them because of all the experience that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of one of the trends. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that that's come up a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 1>And it fascinates me because there are some people who

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<v Speaker 1>I respect more than just about anybody that flat out

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<v Speaker 1>and admit they suck it. Quarterback evaluations. Brett Coleman shout

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<v Speaker 1>out talks about it on the regular and honestly, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I feel hypocritical and how I talk about quarterbacks because

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<v Speaker 1>I've banged the drum in the past for Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>for Jordan Love, because of the physical marvels that they

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<v Speaker 1>were like. Don't get me wrong, I see it too, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea of development coaching patience. Let those guys

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<v Speaker 1>get into the league and survive with their playmaking and

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<v Speaker 1>their legs while they develop the mental side of the

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<v Speaker 1>game through the reps they get. But then also how

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<v Speaker 1>our teams and quarterbacks afforded the chance to actually go

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<v Speaker 1>through those growing pains and get those reps. Because Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Lance is a perfect example. I think if Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 1>played right away didn't get hurt, we could be looking

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<v Speaker 1>at an entirely different career path for the young man.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just didn't go that way. And now when

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is he gonna get a chance? Only one

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback can play. You almost need like an AFL for

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<v Speaker 1>him to go play in. But where I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a hypocrite. As much as those tools can be fun

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of fantasize about what they could become down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. And this is why I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>issues with the way the quarterback positions covered today. People

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<v Speaker 1>seem to only care about those traits and not the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that I believe are far more important, all important,

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<v Speaker 1>But you can stack them processing situational management, timing. I mean, hell,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on this offensive line crusade for the dearth

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<v Speaker 1>of the talent there is in the NFL compared to

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<v Speaker 1>NFL pass rushers. But how about a quarterback that sees

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<v Speaker 1>it fast enough to get the ball out quick with

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<v Speaker 1>a quick, lightning fast trigger to mitigate all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty valuable. I don't care what anybody tells you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most valuable thing you can do in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>So when a quarterback on tape that shows me the

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<v Speaker 1>goods there to at Bama, that's where I really start

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<v Speaker 1>to get starr eyed personally. Give me both and well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Patrick Mahomes, because I promise you Patrick isn't Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>if he's not an absolute assassin from the pocket and

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<v Speaker 1>the way he processes coverage and everything that he sees

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<v Speaker 1>in the field. And this is why, quite frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea how to grade Caleb Williams. He scares

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of me because the playmaking is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But I saw Zach Wilson do a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff in college where they had you know, big

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>time names Tony Romo comparing him to Patrick Mahomes, But

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<v Speaker 1>I saw when I watched him on tape was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was beating group of five talent by beiling

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<v Speaker 1>on clean pockets and just winning with peer athletic ability.

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<v Speaker 1>And that stuff does not work when there are three

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Phillips on your defensive front. To that point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this one is worth hearing. Here this next question

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<v Speaker 1>and answer about Sean Payton and his charge that evaluating

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<v Speaker 1>processing from a quarterback is the toughest thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's darn near impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you do your best try and figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>and you try and watch guys and you try and

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<v Speaker 2>see and follow their eyes and how they're getting the

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<v Speaker 2>one to two to three and how quickly they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But without knowing you know, how they're coached and what

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the scheme calls for them to do. It still makes

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit difficult. And in the college game,

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<v Speaker 2>you can you can win a lot of games on

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<v Speaker 2>first red throws. You know, they spread people from seed

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<v Speaker 2>to sign shining Sea. You know, pre snap, where you're

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<v Speaker 2>going with the ball and you and you deliver it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can you can win games and get a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of big plays that way, so it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit of a different game.

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<v Speaker 2>And in that regard, I think there's something too, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting that immediately once they get.

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<v Speaker 3>To the NFL too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is some room to improve there, so

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can bake in some easy completions for

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<v Speaker 2>guys early in their careers as you're trying to put

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<v Speaker 2>more on them in terms of the processing. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with him, it's an essential part of the position, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is something that's not always easy to find.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that spread element was interesting, and he's right,

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<v Speaker 1>those wide hash marks in the college game make it

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<v Speaker 1>such a different game. He was also asked about the

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<v Speaker 1>evaluation of left hand quarterbacks and how that might change

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<v Speaker 1>compared to riotings because now, like Tua, there's another one

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<v Speaker 1>coming out who's going to play football games either this

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<v Speaker 1>year or next or down the line in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>And Michael Pennix, you know, one of the things we've

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<v Speaker 2>always said is that like with left handed quarterbacks, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be patient with when you bring them in,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be patient with your receivers just because

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<v Speaker 2>of the adjustment it's going to take just with the spin.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll have some drops. It's a little bit unusual

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<v Speaker 2>for the whiteouts to get used to it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't take too long and then you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh there, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say from a schematic advantage, you know, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just depends on on you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>teams are some quarterbacks are really really comfortable booting to

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<v Speaker 2>their natural hand, so to the right side, most right

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 2>handed quarterbacks, they're going to be able to to deliver

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<v Speaker 2>the ball in more areas, more locations when they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to their natural side, as opposed to some guys going left.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to really crank your shoulders around and then

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<v Speaker 2>some guys actually aren't comfortable unless they flip. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine that if you have a left handed quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>it just maybe opens up that other side of the

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<v Speaker 2>field where most defenses are kind of accustomed to seeing

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that go one way. It can kind of mess with

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes a little bit if you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to boot left a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 2>you would to the right.

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<v Speaker 3>So that would be off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things with the we think about Penix

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<v Speaker 2>this year is a left handed quarterback. It's it's he's

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<v Speaker 2>unique because he's a little high cut and he has

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<v Speaker 2>a like a three quarter arm slot delivery, so not

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<v Speaker 2>only is left handed, looks a little bit different now

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>where the ball's coming out and he kind of hangs

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<v Speaker 2>on his back foot. It just it looks unusual, but

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>it's it's really really snappy and whippy and the ball

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>jumps out of his hand. But I think it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of takes a while to adjust your eyes when you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely punting on the combine preview. I just I spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time on that brighten down. A bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys I think are gonna work out a big time,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna get We're already to the second break

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<v Speaker 1>right here about thirty minutes into the show. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and take that last break right here, come back

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side and finish up with three or

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<v Speaker 1>four more here from Dane Jeremiah. That's next Draft Time podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoation. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not a fan or don't listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>Move the Sticks podcast, go ahead and check it out

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>because he talks about all kinds of stuff. Daniel Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL Network. That regards in regards to a

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<v Speaker 1>team building that applies to the entire National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can build off of that and learn from

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<v Speaker 1>that and become a better, smarter fan. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and play tho Q and A with DJ, who

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about the Lions last year. I love this

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<v Speaker 1>question An answered because the question was, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see more of a copycat league in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>teams that go more unconventional by going running back, linebacker,

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>tight end safety with their first four draft picks and

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<v Speaker 1>they all hit. But those are all non premium spots

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<v Speaker 1>right Here's DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's gonna be any any copycat here

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<v Speaker 2>because well, I think we've focused so much on them,

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, taking those you know, quote unquote non value positions,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>but we've ignored the fact that, yeah, when you built,

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 2>when you've already built the foundation, then you can go

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>Draft was successful because of what they did, what Brad

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<v Speaker 2>and those guys did previously to build up the line

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<v Speaker 2>of scrimmage on both sides. You know, they had the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback in place. They hit on a home run on

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<v Speaker 2>the wide receiver, so the expensive premium positions, they'd already

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<v Speaker 2>built the foundations that freed them up. It's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>advantage over the rest of the league where you can

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<v Speaker 2>take you know, the running back, can you know, obviously

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 2>a tight end hits a home run, You can take

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<v Speaker 2>off the ball, linebacker, you can do those things once

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<v Speaker 2>the foundation is built. I still think personally the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do is to build the foundation and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can go and do what the Lions did last year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not so certain that as great as those

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<v Speaker 2>players were, it was awesome that you would have seen

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<v Speaker 2>them flourish and shine as much as they did if

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have the quarterback in place and the offense

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<v Speaker 2>and the defensive line in place.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird, right, because in the NFL, it's all about context

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<v Speaker 1>and the situation, and every situation is case by case

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<v Speaker 1>and different, and if you operate under the one overarching theme,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to make a poor decision at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in that process. And the debate between best player available,

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<v Speaker 1>drafting for need, all of that always about context. DJ

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<v Speaker 1>provides some context for us right there. Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and hear from DJ on the impact of a transfer

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<v Speaker 1>portal and how that might change the NFL draft going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's good sides to it. I think you

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>brought up a great point there at the end one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Uh. You know, there's two things. If you

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<v Speaker 2>look at players that you miss on, I know you

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<v Speaker 2>always I always go back. There's always plenty to choose

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<v Speaker 2>from the guys that I missed on over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and try and self scout, and when you talk to

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>teams and get information on maybe why it didn't work out.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Two things happen a lot are they don't know, they

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to handle adversity. And then other thing

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>is sometimes they don't know how to handle you know, money, fame,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 2>all all that kind of stuff that goes along with it,

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>all the distractions that money can can bring.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 3>So now you're getting a chance.

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>To see them in that situation basically be a professional

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>before they even get to you, and see how they

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>how they handle themselves. So I think that can that

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>can be a plus. The transfer thing in terms of

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>impacting guys in grades, no, I mean that that's it's

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>not really an issue anymore. I know once upon a

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 2>time you could say, oh I didn't work out here

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>or there it would come up in draft meetings. But

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm getting to the point now where I'm

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>old enough to remember when I first started in three

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>that I remember discussions in the draft from about a

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>player having tattoos, and I think about how silly that

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>is when we fast forward twenty years ago. So yeah,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>some things become less and less important, and nobody really

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>cares about the transfer thing anymore.

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to go ahead and play this next answer

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>here from DJ because it includes a couple of Organ

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Ducks and the guy that I've talked about in the

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>podcast a lot. He was asked about Troy Franklin, the Lean,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a tall, explosive receiver from Organ, and Jackson Powers Johnson

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>who might be the best player in the entire damn draft.

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fun, fun guys to study, and with Franklin. Look,

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I gave him a good grade to my first listing.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>He's my thirty ninth player. I liked him a lot,

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>But I think I'll end up coming up on him

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>because I just finished, you know, going through all these

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>guys for the combine, and I saw a lot of

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 2>corners with a lot of blood on their hands. Courtesy

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of Franklin I mean, he just runs by everybody so

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 2>big time, big time juice, tall, lean, explosive, he can

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>beat press with his quickness. He's cleaning out of brakes

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>for a taller guy. It's just it is. It's fun

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 2>to watch him really track the ball and go get it.

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>A big time home run hitter. So I think he's

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he'll go twenty. He's the thirties, he's gonna

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna go somewhere in there. I expect he'll probably run

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>really fast.

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 3>In Indie.

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>We look at the center Jackson powers Johnson. It's hard

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>to find guys that big that can move like that.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, three hundred and thirty four pounds. You can't

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>get through them. He just kind of catches guys and

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>absorbs them. In pass pro, he's quick to the second level.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>He's really good on combo blocks. He's got some nasty

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to him. He's a bulldog, got some realpe, some snap

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and some pop in his hands. He was having a

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>great week until he got nicked up at the Senior

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Bowl too, So you know, I think he's I think

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.479
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna find his way into the to the bottom

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>portion of the first round. He's too clean of a

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>player and it's just somebody that can anchor your offensive

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>line for the next decade.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Now we get a specific Miami Dolphins question. Who was

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>asked about the Dolphins philosophy in the twenties with the

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>roster of the way it's built going after an impact

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>player more for the future. Here's DJA and how he

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>views the Dolphins, and this opening line is why I

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>want to include this answer.

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>To me, you're the You're the Dolphins. You were right

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 3>in the smack dab in the middle of your window.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, to me, you can look at upside, you know,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>guys that are ready right now. I would probably look

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, I always think about what Ozen used to

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>used to always say, let's just hit doubles in the

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>first round, they'll strike out.

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm the Miami Dolphins.

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I want somebody to come in and can help me

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that I, you know, feel as a rock solid player

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>ready to roll right now. That would be, you know,

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of the area that I'd be leaning to. If

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you have a choice between player A player B. I

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>might be a little more conscious of the floor just

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, just personally where they are. And a lot

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of times those high floor picks end up being really

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>really good players.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, first, I just love that we got that

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>opening line from me because I really can't conceive the

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>idea of the window closing, and I see it across

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the fan base. This is the last year of the window,

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the cap hell, YadA YadA yah. But then you see

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Chris Career as stoic as ever, basically saying, yeah, we're

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>not worried about that right now. I mean, don't get

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>me wrong, there's some work to be done with the

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>cap situation ahead of the league year, but like this

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is every year for every team for the most part,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>at least the teams that can tend. The only teams

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>with oodles of money to spend are the ones who

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>finished with four and five wins because they don't have

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>talent on their football team. The joke, right, players are great,

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>but have you ever had cap space? If we have

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>cap space, we could even get a player like Tyreek

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Hill or Bradley Chubb. That's the family guy joke, right,

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have a boat or the mystery prize? About? No, no, no, no, no,

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>hang on low. Worst, now, we don't even know what

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the mystery prize is. It could even be about it's

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a horrible Peter Griffin. Maybe I do a little bit

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>better of a Cleveland, But yeah, twenty five year old

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>quarterback who's posted top five stats and gotten better every

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>single year league leader and passer rating and then league

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>leader in yardage the following year, with one of the

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>best play designers in play callers, with a group of

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe the most dangerous eligibles, with a defense littered with playmakers.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Like if I told you in twenty sixteen that was

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins roster and I just told you about the

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and the head coach and play caller, you would say, oh,

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be contending for ten years because we

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>have the two most important spots that we haven't had

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>since Shoela and Reno. Now you have it, and there

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>will be changes, and you might even lose a really player,

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>But these are good team problems. Guys. They brought those

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>guys in. Now they have to replace some of them.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just because it's different doesn't mean it's worse. Just

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>remember that. Let's go ahead and hear more from DJ

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>here on a Jets specific question. But I'm not playing

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>it for that reason. I'm playing it because he talks

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about the idea of stacking value in the draft, where

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the tackles rank versus the receivers. I thought that was

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>pertinent to us, So let's go ahead and play that.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>He was asked about, should the Jets go tackle first,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver second or vice versa. Here's DJ Yeah.

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I look, everybody's talking about the Jets. Do

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you go wide out? Do you go tackle with that

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 2>first pick? I know one thing, if you can get

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the tackle, I feel a lot better about the third

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>round wide outs than I do about the route the

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 2>third round tackle. So that to me, would make that

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I would lean more in that tackle direction early. Because

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>in the third round you got some really really interesting guys.

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky's got, you know,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 2>big time juice, big time run after catch stuff. He

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>is a is a total stud. You've got Roman Wilson

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>from Michigan who can fly. Talked about him a little earlier.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Piersoll from Florida, who's just a real loose, fluid,

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 2>excellent route runner, and you know, get some insane catches

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>they won't again.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Charlotte, he might have the catch of the year. Of

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 3>all these guys, in the draft.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>His Catchkin Charlott's ridiculous, but real quick, real fast, and

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 2>can make some things happen after the catch.

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 3>I can go on.

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's there's a bunch of wide receivers. Every

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>year we do this, every year we talk about this.

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>It's a really really intriguing mix of white out. So

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>in the tackle whiteout discussion, I think if it's closed,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>you go tackle early. You can come back for the

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 2>wide out safeties in that third round range. You know,

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 2>you've got Javon Bullard from Georgia, good player. We'll see

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>what happens with with Jayden Hicks from Washington State. If

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 2>he runs well, he'll he'll probably be gone by then.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>But you also have like Malik Mustafa from from Wake Forest,

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Tike Smith from Georgia. There's some interesting guys, some interesting safeties.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a great safety class. I don't

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 2>think we even have one. You know, maybe Nuban goes

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>in the top fifty from Minnesota in the second round.

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Back man, we might not have a safety in the

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>top fifty picks as possible.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, So I have some more thoughts here to

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>give you guys. I always love these if this, then

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that type of scenarios come to draft. And I thought

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>he gave a good glimpse there of what these two

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>position groups look like and how teams could wind up

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>stacking them. And you've heard me talk about receivers a

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>lot this offseason, and I think sometimes I do this

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>thing on the podcast where I don't always explain things

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the way I guess I assume everyone knows, so allow

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>me to be better about that. And I realized it

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>talking to a buddy of mine the other day who

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>was far from a Dolphins fan. He asked me, what

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>do I think the team should do? And I mentioned

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>another guy that can beat one on one coverage versus

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>really would be really nice for this team. And his response, yeah,

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like two ineusible weapons. Okay, Bud. I'm like, all right, well,

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>don't text me then, jerk. And I took that personally

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like Michael Jordan, but for real, like, yeah he does.

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And this is why. So we know Tyreek and Jalen

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>missed some time last year, right, and even when they

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>were available at times, they weren't a hundred and man,

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I watched him that Titans game again. The ankle injury

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to Tyreek is the difference in the game, which is

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the difference in the division if you ask me, sy right,

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>But Tyreek played six hundred and ninety five snaps last year,

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>sixty three percent of our total. Wattle played six to

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>eleven that's fifty six percent of our total. In twenty

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty two, they both played all seventeen games, so that's

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>without injuries. Tyreek played eight hundred snaps, that's seventy six percent,

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>so he was down thirteen percent this last year because

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of injuries. Wattle played seven to eighty five seventy four percent,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>so he was down eighteen percent because of injuries. So

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>even when they played seventeen games, that's two hundred and

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven snaps without Tyreek, it's two hundred and seventy

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>two snaps without Wattle. That is five hundred and twenty

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>nine snaps collectively, and that's with thirty four games played

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>among them. And look, hey, they run more than any

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>other receiver in football. I am not at all complaining

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>about the usage. You should do that and keep them fresh.

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm just illustrating a point at how many other wide

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 1>receiver reps there are to be had. This is far

0:38:58.400 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>from a two man position. For us or for anybody

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. More realistically, it's a four

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>man deal, and then if you have injuries like we did,

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>probably five or six. So that's why I think wide

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>receiver is definitely something to look at, or even a

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>top priority or tight end. I suppose just another dynamic

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>player at the eligibles would go a long long way

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to giving us more options where we struggled at times

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>on third downs when those guys were down or when

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>those guys commanded the full attention of the defense and

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have the other person take the way off

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of those players. Because we're talking about five hundred and

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine snaps without those two from twenty twenty two,

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>five hundred and twenty nine snaps is a fifty percent player.

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>That's a big role on your offense. If you're talking

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.240
<v Speaker 1>about this year twenty twenty three, eight hundred and ninety

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>snaps without those guys, you get what I'm saying here,

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and ninety snaps would be eighty two percent

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of our workload. That would be the third most on

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>our offense. So we need that player. So if you're

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>looking at somewhere between a fifty five to eighty five

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>percent player. Shouldn't you have more than zero or eleven

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<v Speaker 1>or eighty five that we had last year? Each of

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<v Speaker 1>those those guys feels like a fine fifth or fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>but you need at least one more, right, And if

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<v Speaker 1>the argument is it's too expensive to go big at

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<v Speaker 1>number three, it probably is, then it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, right. That's why I tell you about Malachai Corley,

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<v Speaker 1>So why I tell you about Roman Wilson. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more names for you guys right there. And also

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Azukama time to step up. That's why I think

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<v Speaker 1>you look at these receivers closely this offseason and you

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at the guys that make the most sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and finish up with this last one

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<v Speaker 1>here that I asked DJ. I'll go ahead and play

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<v Speaker 1>the full Q and a hey, DJ, appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>As always on these we saw both shanahan and McVeigh

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<v Speaker 1>this year pivot to a little bit more man and

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<v Speaker 1>gap running schemes and some more true drop back passes

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<v Speaker 1>addition to their wide zone and play action games. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious which players in this year's O line class have

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<v Speaker 1>the trades required to be part of an offense that

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<v Speaker 1>really wants to be that versatile.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to me, I always look at interior guys

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<v Speaker 2>that have some tackle ability but can also move people.

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<v Speaker 2>So in other words, like a guy like Dominic Pooney

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<v Speaker 2>from Kansas who's played left tackle and then goes inside

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<v Speaker 2>of the Senior Bowl was excellent there. He's three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty three pounds, so he can move people, but

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<v Speaker 2>he can still move So I think guy like that

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<v Speaker 2>give you versatility.

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<v Speaker 3>Another one a guy like Brandon Coleman.

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<v Speaker 2>From TCU, probably like you know in that third round

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<v Speaker 2>range that's played left tackle, can kick inside and play guard.

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<v Speaker 2>He's three hundred and sixteen pounds, so he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>has that skill set as well that they can they

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<v Speaker 2>can do anything. I really think the top three centers

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<v Speaker 2>are guys that fit that mold as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>with Jackson Powers, Johnson, Graham Barton from Duke Zach Frazier

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<v Speaker 2>from West Virginia. All three of those guys can move

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<v Speaker 2>you at the point of attack. All three of them

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<v Speaker 2>are over three hundred and ten pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're athletic.

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<v Speaker 2>So those guys, that's a group of interior guys to

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<v Speaker 2>me that I think would fit there. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>know the tackle wise, this this draft just has a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of them that should be able to do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that stuff. One guy we haven't mentioned who

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked is a guy Blake Fisher from Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>He can, he's a right tackle, he has good foot speed,

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<v Speaker 2>he can get out do some of the things in space.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's got some power to him as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>that those are you know, just a few names there

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<v Speaker 2>that I think would kind of fit that that versatile

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<v Speaker 2>type guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, man, I love that episode. Really good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very informative. We'll talk to DJ again for the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast tomorrow. I'll ask him like six specific Dolphins questions

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys. We'll get into that. I'll save my

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<v Speaker 1>notes on the combined workout, guys, we'llsey might actually use it,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, check out the podcast all week. Give me

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