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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: This is Jetuars Happy Hour, Jaguar's Happy Hours, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 1: And now a guy who wants to remind everyone to

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Speaker 1: always mine the.

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Speaker 2: Gap, Shay p Chemy.

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Speaker 3: There certainly is one right about now. Welcome in.

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Speaker 4: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, Monday October fourteenth, the first

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Speaker 4: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans and we are at

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Speaker 4: the Grove just outside of Watford, northwest of London, team

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Speaker 4: headquarters for the week, going in to the game at

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Speaker 4: Wimbley This week the Jaguars host the Patriots. But we've

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Speaker 4: got plenty to attend to today. Here's what's coming up

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Speaker 4: on the show. After the Jags lost to the Bears

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Speaker 4: at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium yesterday thirty five sixteen, the final

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Speaker 4: penalties drops coverage issue. We'll keep it real. I think

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Speaker 4: it will be two hours of that. Fanatics, fan questions

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Speaker 4: will go around. The NFL also lots to cover today.

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Speaker 4: Tony Boselli with me here in England and Pete Prisco

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Speaker 4: is with us on the line down in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: Tony, good afternoon, Good to see you. Yeah, it's good

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Speaker 2: to be here. What a beautiful place. The grove is

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Speaker 2: HQ for London. Here in Jaguar it's great.

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Speaker 5: It's this old like kind of Victorian like, this is

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Speaker 5: a house we're in right now, and they added a

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Speaker 5: resort around a great golf course. I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 5: able to play, but besides that, it's beautiful. Unfortunately, what

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Speaker 5: we saw on the field yesterday not so pretty. I

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Speaker 5: wish the play was as nice as this beautiful resort

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Speaker 5: we're staying out right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not quite yet, Pete. Here we are. Jaguars are

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Speaker 2: one and five.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, a jolly good time in London.

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Speaker 1: It was not had by all, was it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, what an awful.

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Speaker 3: Showing on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many things to talk about

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Speaker 1: when it comes to that game.

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Speaker 3: It was as bad.

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Speaker 1: Look, the Buffalo game was awful, but Buffalo is a

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Speaker 1: good team.

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Speaker 3: The Bears, you know they're okay.

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Speaker 1: But that was just it was just disgusting all the

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Speaker 1: way across the board. I mean, from the stakes to

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Speaker 1: drop touchdown passes, to band interception, to an underthrown deep ball,

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Speaker 1: to guys not making tackles, no interior pass rush at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't great from the outside either, but

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Speaker 1: they got nothing on the interior.

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Speaker 2: It was awful.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's no other way to describe it, and something

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Speaker 1: has to be done. Something has to be done.

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Speaker 5: So pete a couple things, three points and we can

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Speaker 5: kind of frame. Let me say the first thing you

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Speaker 5: brought up the underthrown pass by Trevor, and I'm going

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Speaker 5: to start the shows. I actually think Trevor played pretty well.

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Speaker 5: If you watch during the game, it didn't feel like

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Speaker 5: because everything was going so wrong. But going back and

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Speaker 5: watching the tape today, the underthrown ball was bad. I

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Speaker 5: had no issue with the interception. It was interception, don't

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Speaker 5: want it. But they're down I think two or three.

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Speaker 5: Scorer is late third and fifteen. He's trying to make

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Speaker 5: something happen. But my goodness, they had four dropped touchdown passes,

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Speaker 5: and I thought he made some really nice throws. I

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Speaker 5: Like Trevor, Lawrence was not the problem. So let's just

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Speaker 5: set that aside. The two big issues I have coming

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Speaker 5: out of yesterday's game. It's actually what was said in

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Speaker 5: the post game, which I think is a reflection of

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Speaker 5: how the game went yesterday and how the season has

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Speaker 5: gone so far. At one in five is Andre Cisco

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Speaker 5: was interviewed by Brent Martineau and he used the term quit.

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Speaker 3: I might quit.

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Speaker 5: This is week six and we're talking about guys quitting

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Speaker 5: first of all, if that's true, it's it's inexcusable. Second all,

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Speaker 5: you don't say that publicly. You handled that behind closed doors,

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Speaker 5: was to Bucky and talking about there's a cultural issue

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Speaker 5: and the culture needs to change. I'm like, wow, that's

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Speaker 5: where we are respons the culture. Well, the head coaches,

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Speaker 4: I mean, but Pete, that's what the players have a

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Speaker 4: hand in that too, right, they have to go execute

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Speaker 5: No, okay, I agree with that. At the end of

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Speaker 5: the day. You know where I'm gonna stand on this.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, it's the players are responsible.

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Speaker 5: What you put on the field is your responsibility. When

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Speaker 5: tape and you see jogging and you see drops, and

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Speaker 5: you see not getting off the field and extending possessions.

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Speaker 5: Because twelve men on the field, like you see that

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Speaker 5: ultimately responsible for the play on the field. The coach's

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Speaker 5: job is to put them in the right position. I

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Speaker 5: bring those two things up, Pete, because at one and

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Speaker 5: five and getting blown out yesterday by a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 5: and then to have those two comments are very concerning

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Speaker 5: to me because that is a sign of more systemic issues.

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Speaker 2: That go beyond just being one in five.

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Speaker 5: Now they might be leading to the leading to the

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Speaker 5: one and five, but those are big issues. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you've been around to the league a long time. I've

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Speaker 5: played and been around it. When you start hearing quit

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Speaker 3: I didn't have that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The only other word you don't want to hear is

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Speaker 1: thrown in there is soft. Throw that one in there

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Speaker 1: if you want to. I mean that that one is

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Speaker 1: the real that that tears at the fabric of a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm with you, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Look, as a journalist, I love that Brett Martineau got

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: If I was the football coach, he'd be called into

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Speaker 3: Why would you put that out there?

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Speaker 1: If you have a problem with people in this on

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Speaker 1: this team who you think are not playing to the

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Speaker 1: or say something to me, and I will. But the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is you pop on the tape. There is jogging,

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Speaker 1: there's not finishing plays. You know, there's there's I put

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Speaker 1: speaks for itself. He jumps, there's a block coming down

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Speaker 3: He doesn't take on his he jumps away from it.

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Speaker 3: What the hell is that? And so I think you

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Speaker 3: had it off, Tony. I think it's a cultural problem.

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Speaker 1: But you can't absolve the coach from any blame and

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Speaker 1: just put it on the players because otherwise, well, here's why,

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Speaker 1: what the hell you need to coach for? Then if

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Speaker 1: it's all on the players, you know, the culture is

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Speaker 1: established by your coach. Tom Kauflin established the culture for

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Speaker 3: So mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I was watching the play trying to

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Speaker 1: Hamilton doesn't get off the field because you see it.

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Speaker 3: You see each jog.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the play you see Roy

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Speaker 3: Where's the communication there?

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Speaker 1: And so I think the little things when teams have

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Speaker 1: That to me, that goes to the coaching, the preparation

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Speaker 3: So I think it's it is a coaching problem.

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Speaker 1: And if the coach is talking about the culture, he

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Speaker 3: That's where the problem is.

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Speaker 1: If that was if I'm the head coach of that

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Speaker 5: Well, I think, Pete, I'm not absolving anybody. I'm not

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Speaker 5: dissolving the I'm not saying it's all in the players

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, But the players are

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 3: You can, but don't you call him out for that, Tony.

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Speaker 1: If you guys had a guy that wasn't put in

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Speaker 5: Well, not only would he be called out by the players,

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Speaker 5: don't think there's anyone absolved. From the GM to the

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Speaker 5: and you watch the tape and it's there's opportunities there

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Speaker 5: to win football games throughout all these games at Sands,

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Speaker 5: Buffalo probably, but we're not making the plays.

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Speaker 2: And why I think it goes back to.

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Speaker 5: How you practice accountability, player performance, knowing what to I mean,

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Speaker 5: when you're one of five, it's not one thing and like,

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Speaker 5: well it's not. There's no magic formula or bullet that

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Speaker 5: you're like, oh, this will just fix everything. And to me,

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Speaker 5: that was hammered home when I heard those two comments,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, wow, that's where we are as

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Speaker 1: Well, but now you have let you know, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the and the roster. Okay, the roster is really

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a great roster. Let's be real, particularly on defense. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: the roster's not great. But you watched the Arizona and

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Speaker 1: San Francisco a week ago and their defensive talent not

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Speaker 1: very good. But you know what they do do They

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Speaker 1: play hard, they play tough, they play physical, they get

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Speaker 1: after it. Now, they don't have a lot of talent,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna it's gonna be exposed at times. The

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville defense doesn't have a lot of talent. I'll be

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Speaker 1: lot of us did. They're not that talented on defense,

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Speaker 1: but there are times where they don't play hard. And

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Speaker 1: that's the rally to the ball, run to the ball,

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Speaker 1: to him. You don't ever say that. You never see

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Speaker 1: that when there's a play made. Do you ever see

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Speaker 1: Here's what it looks like to me as an outsider,

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Speaker 3: And I know you would have to back in the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you bring up a lot of good points.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and I don't even know where to start

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Speaker 2: We have three defensive ends on this team.

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Speaker 5: large swaths of games, and yesterday this was the case,

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Speaker 5: you were playing with four defensive tackles on the field.

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Speaker 5: I don't care what you want. Like you can label

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Speaker 3: That's what he is.

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Speaker 5: That's how he made his money. He was really good

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Speaker 3: No, you have Roy Robinson Harris. Roy Robinson Harris is

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: You only have two pass rushers.

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Speaker 5: And I actually thought I'm gonna give Like if we've

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Speaker 5: Now they need to get off and finished better at times.

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Speaker 5: But there's no I mean, those guys can rush the passer.

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Speaker 3: They push.

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Speaker 1: If they had pushing from the end, Tony, if they

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Speaker 3: There is no put there are plays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't want I don't understand it. We'll

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Speaker 5: I don't understand the philosophy and the thinking of only

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Speaker 5: and be ready because you can't have you can't affect

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Speaker 3: I don't understand it. No, they don't do not blets.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand it, Pete. I don't understand the philosophy

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 3: I don't get that. I don't get that.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have pass rushers, don't you need

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Speaker 1: Hey, what they have now, JP, what's the difference go

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Speaker 4: We've got plenty ahead. We've got to get to the

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Speaker 4: offense in a little bit. They had some issues obviously

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Speaker 4: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 6: Defeated obviously, I feel for the players and the coaches.

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Speaker 3: We work.

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Speaker 6: We work extremely too hard, you know, to be in

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Speaker 6: You know, they don't quit, they keep fighting. We got

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Speaker 6: to figure out how to just get out of our way.

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Speaker 4: That's head coach Doug Peterson after the game at Spurs

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Speaker 4: yesterday and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

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Speaker 2: And every Monday. And you know this.

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Speaker 4: Going into the game, there had been five number one

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Speaker 4: pick rookie quarterbacks to face off against the thirty second

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Speaker 4: ranked pass defense, and all five times the quarterback had

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Speaker 4: lost that matchup. It was usually a better day for

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Speaker 4: four touchdown passes against the thirty second ranked pass defense

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Speaker 4: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Cole Comet two touchdowns, Keenan Allen

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Speaker 4: the salt event with two touchdowns as well. Comet was

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Speaker 4: running all over this defense. We can discuss obviously, the

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Speaker 4: we'll get to the offense for the Jags in a

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Speaker 4: little bit on the show, guys. But when you got

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Speaker 4: that double screen fake and nobody's within ten yards of him,

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Speaker 4: that's you know, We've seen that a lot over the years,

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Speaker 4: tight ends running wild, but yesterday was a tough one.

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Speaker 2: To watch, Tony.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a great I mean, listen, the first touchdown,

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Speaker 5: the first one to comet was the well designed play.

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Speaker 5: We had a similar play when I was playing, where

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Speaker 5: and it always works.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it always works. It works in San Francisco

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Speaker 4: It worn't the Jags do that in the playoff game

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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh with Tommy. That's exactly right. It usually works

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Speaker 2: Get it maybe once again, right, but you gotta make

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Speaker 3: Run he wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna catch him anyways.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't.

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Speaker 1: But you still sprint, Pete, of course you still And

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Speaker 3: There's plenty of video out there. He's jogging behind them.

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Speaker 1: And he hadn't played the second hadn't played very well.

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Speaker 5: And if the second Committ touchdown, there was a blown

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Speaker 1: I went back and watched the play as Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you have man on one side, zone on the other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And Savage is over there by himself trying to

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Speaker 1: You know, you eat here it is, you can see

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not giving a pass to the coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: But when it's when the polls the play is called,

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Speaker 2: You have to do your job. You have to understand

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Speaker 2: if you still get beat fine, you look yourself in

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Speaker 5: You're like, hey, I did the best I could. I

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Speaker 5: get twelve men on the field and extend drives. Pete,

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Speaker 2: When you have to know this.

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Speaker 1: Six playoffs against the Denver Yeah. Yeah, Michael Perry didn't

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 3: It was thirteen to nothing at that time. We're punting.

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Speaker 5: Michael Dean Perry jogs off the field, twelve men on

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Speaker 3: We went on to.

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Speaker 5: Score every possession for the rest of the game until

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Speaker 5: we need victory for Bash. At the end were punted again.

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Speaker 5: Why mistakes like that give possessions to teams.

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Speaker 2: That's how you lose.

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Speaker 5: When you stop somebody get off the field because you

447
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Speaker 5: don't want to give them a second chance. And that

448
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Speaker 5: was the most frustrating drive of the entire game for me.

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Speaker 5: We weren't playing great, we're down. Offense gets together, makes

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Speaker 5: it twenty one to ten. Defense, get a sack man,

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Speaker 5: you're fired up. You're gonna get three and out and

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Speaker 5: get your ball right back to your offense. You know,

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Speaker 5: five or six minutes left in the third quarter, you're

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Speaker 5: right in the game. You don't get off the field,

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Speaker 5: you extend the drive. Then you did it again with

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Speaker 5: the hole. Well, technically the way they had two sets,

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Speaker 5: you're right, one on twelve man on the field, one

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Speaker 5: on a hole yep.

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Speaker 1: And so then and then they sure the first down

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Speaker 1: to get them off the field again and another hold.

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Speaker 2: That is called. That second hold was really questionable by

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Speaker 2: the way.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was also a collision there that they

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Speaker 1: could have called it on the other guy too, because

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Speaker 1: so that could have been called.

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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, but that's losing football. That's how you lose

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Speaker 5: football games.

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Speaker 3: And and here's the talk part.

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Speaker 1: We know we're talking about the coole cometos that when

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Speaker 1: the whole secondary and linebackers are playing man coverage and

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Speaker 1: you're the one guy playing zone coverage, that's not just coaching.

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Speaker 3: That's you, that's you.

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Speaker 1: If you're the only one that's you, that's on Devin Lloyd,

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Speaker 1: I mean. And and so it goes back to your

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Speaker 1: point about the players being responsible as much as the coaches.

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Speaker 1: You could coach that all you want, and everybody's playing

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Speaker 1: the right defense except one guy.

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Speaker 3: That's on that one guy as much as anything.

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Speaker 2: But if you allow it, Pete, your coach too.

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Speaker 3: And and but what do you do? What do you do?

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Speaker 3: How do you change that?

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Speaker 7: You?

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Speaker 2: Like, here's my theory of the whole thing. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who you put in, I mean, that's I mean.

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Speaker 5: But the bottom line I know this, If you accept

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Speaker 5: missed assignments, if you accept jogging, you accept you know,

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Speaker 5: pre snap, all the different things, if you allow it,

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Speaker 5: it's not gonna ever change. So Pete, let me ask

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Speaker 5: you a question. Would you rather have a more talented

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Speaker 5: player who does not do the right thing assignment wise,

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Speaker 5: or a less talented player who plays is you know

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Speaker 5: what off is in the right spot. But it might

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Speaker 5: be a little limited. But at Leasia can trust them.

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Speaker 5: They're going to be the right spot to give.

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Speaker 1: But who are you asking this about?

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Speaker 3: Reference anybody?

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it applies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you mean personally? So you're are

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Speaker 1: you saying that who should be when everybody's healthy?

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Speaker 3: Who should be those two linebackers are on the field

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Speaker 3: all the time?

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Speaker 4: Well my opinion, I mean when everyone's healthy, based on

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Speaker 4: play right now, Foyer and Ventro, that's who I would play.

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Speaker 4: But I mean right now, But I mean not Everyone

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Speaker 4: tells I'm not even talking about Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 1: This talk about this team.

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Speaker 3: It's just talking about in general. I'm talking in general.

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Speaker 5: At some point there has to be accountability and consequences

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Speaker 5: for not doing the right thing.

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Speaker 3: I agree, you know, sit a guy down.

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Speaker 1: But have they done that with Devin Lloyd a couple

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Speaker 1: of different times already in his career?

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Speaker 2: All right, I don't know they have.

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Speaker 3: They did it early in his career, They've done that.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't playing these honey, one playing football, and and look,

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Speaker 1: he made.

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Speaker 3: Some I'll give I'll give the I'll give them. He

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Speaker 3: made a couple of plays in the run game.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but but I'm not saying but let's be clear,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the only reasonability.

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Speaker 1: He's a liability covers.

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Speaker 2: Let's be real.

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Speaker 5: He can't just showed the play devines like does not

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Speaker 5: the problem. But that's not the problem. The whole thing

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Speaker 5: is the problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they're not talented.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could go on and on and show,

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Speaker 1: we could show they Okay, they traded up to get him, yes,

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Speaker 1: then they drafted Muma a couple of rounds later, then

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Speaker 1: they paid a Lulacan and extended a Luacan and then

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Speaker 1: you draft Ventro Miller.

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Speaker 3: What round was he the fourth round?

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Speaker 1: The fourth fourth? Well, so all those assets put it

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Speaker 1: in a linebacker position. Are they good there? The answer

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Speaker 1: to that question is no. And they could talk to

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Speaker 1: their blue in the face. The answer is no. And

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Speaker 1: so what what's the solution to that? Well, you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have traded if Devin Lloyd isn't, you shouldn't extend the

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Speaker 1: Lucan twice.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean that to me is that makes no.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, about every people in this town. Rip

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Speaker 1: Shod Khan to shreds. Rip them the shreds. Shot Cohn

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Speaker 1: has gone out and spent money on every guy that

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Speaker 1: the GM wanted him to spend money on. Corner, Spend it,

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Speaker 1: defensive end, spend it quarterback, spend it a Lua Khan,

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Speaker 1: restructure and give him a new deal. Spend it Roy

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Speaker 1: Robertson Harris. Let's give him a new deal, give him

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Speaker 1: the money.

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Speaker 3: You know you can keep going on and on.

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Speaker 1: They sheriff got a new deal, restructured it, gave it

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Speaker 1: to him. They've given out a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: a lot of players, and the reality is they haven't

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Speaker 1: got returned bang for the buck. He doesn't know anything

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Speaker 1: about those players. He's just getting guidance from the guy

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Speaker 1: who supposedly does, and that guy says, we need to

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Speaker 1: do this, this, this, and this. Are they a better

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Speaker 1: football team because of all those decisions? Absolutely not. Then

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Speaker 1: you want to go further, you need you replace the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in Zay Jones with one who can't run

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Speaker 1: a lick. Okay, and he dropped touchdown two touchdown He

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Speaker 1: caught too, but he dropped two.

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Speaker 3: You replaced I don't know what you did with Armstead.

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Speaker 1: You went out and spent a lot of money on

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Speaker 1: a guy who maybe he just went over the cliff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that a that's a distinct possibility. He

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Speaker 1: was hurting the preseason and he's not close to being

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Speaker 1: the same player he was. So he spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of money on an injured player. We've seen that before.

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Speaker 1: Then Darby, I mean, is are they get in return

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Speaker 1: on that investment from Darby?

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Speaker 3: Montrek Brown's been better than Darby? So what Monterk Brown?

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Speaker 2: I thought that Montak Brown's played pretty well?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so you got no return on your investment

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Speaker 1: other than Morse in free agency. That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Then status quo on the offensive line. Let's pay in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: And he's been okay. I mean, he's been solid. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna give him any I'm not gonna kill him

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Speaker 1: for that one. But again, don't kill the owner. The

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Speaker 1: owner is spending the money in large part because that

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Speaker 1: GM is telling him to. And so you really want

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Speaker 1: to look at it. The roster stinks.

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Speaker 3: Because they've made stupid moves.

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Speaker 1: They've made moves to go replace guys just for the

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Speaker 1: sake of replacing them.

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Speaker 3: Is Gabe Davis better than Zay Jones.

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Speaker 2: No, all right, now, is what Eric.

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Speaker 1: Armstead given you? Is he better than I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think who they would have had in there is not?

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Speaker 1: And is Darby any better than Darius Williams who they had.

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think your broader point and we gotta go

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Speaker 5: to break here your broader point, Pete, I agree, like

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Speaker 5: we have an owner in Shod Cohn, and historically in

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Speaker 5: this league, the complaints about owners is when they don't

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Speaker 5: spend money, they don't invest well. If you're a Jacksonville

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Speaker 5: Jaguar fan, you can be upset about the record. You

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Speaker 5: can be you can be upset about the performance. You

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Speaker 5: can be upset about who's making the decisions as the

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Speaker 5: GM or the coach or whatever. You can be upset

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Speaker 5: about all that. But Pete is right. You cannot question

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Speaker 5: the commitment of Seod Khan of investing in this franchise,

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Speaker 5: in giving all the resources to the GM to get

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Speaker 5: the players that they want. That cannot be questioned because

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Speaker 5: he has spent a lot of money, and he spent

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Speaker 5: a lot of money this offseason based on the recommendation

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Speaker 5: of the GYM, and so I think that is what

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Speaker 5: you're your point, Pete, and I tend to agree with

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Speaker 5: it because that's I mean, in the history of the

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Speaker 5: nfl P you've covered it forever. What do fans complain

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Speaker 5: about the owner doesn't invest.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you what we don't have one of those.

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Speaker 2: We have wants and will spend the money.

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Speaker 1: One quick note on that when shod Con said that

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Speaker 1: stuff before the season about out the most talented team,

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Speaker 1: and he did say ever in Jaguar's history, who do

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Speaker 1: you think told him that Because Sean Con can't make

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Speaker 1: he can't make that assessment. He can't make that evaluation

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Speaker 1: that's coming into his ear from the general manager, guaranteed

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Speaker 1: one hundred And if you say that as the general manager,

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Speaker 1: you say that the owner buys that and the team

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Speaker 1: doesn't live up to it, then who's on the hook

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Speaker 1: And in the general manager, it's that head coach who's

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Speaker 1: worried about his culture.

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Speaker 3: That's who that is.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this and we'll go to break. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we need to go.

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Speaker 5: My understanding is that what Shot was referring to since

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Speaker 5: he's been the owner.

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Speaker 2: In fairness, that's not what he said, though, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: believe that's.

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Speaker 4: lost to the Bears and didn't look good really in

662
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Speaker 4: any phase of the football game.

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Speaker 3: And we gotta get to the offense.

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Speaker 4: We've been touching on defense a line rightly, so, I

665
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Speaker 4: mean they gave up four passing touchdowns to the number

666
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Speaker 4: one overall pickrookie quarterback. But on the other side, it

667
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: was a battle of number one pick quarterbacks because Trevor

668
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Speaker 4: Lawrence was in there, and as you referenced earlier Tony

669
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Speaker 4: it wasn't like he had a bad game. The Jaguars

670
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Speaker 4: had some running issues. Travis Etn left the game with

671
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Speaker 4: a hamstring injury, and Doug Peterson said today that it's

672
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Speaker 4: more likely week to week than day to day, So

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Speaker 4: that doesn't sound good for the near term for etn

674
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Speaker 4: Dejanis Johnson got many more snaps than Tank Bigsby in

675
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Speaker 4: the game, and a lot of that it was later

676
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Speaker 4: when they had to throw it, and Dearness has kind

677
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: of been that third down passing guy. So where do

678
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 4: you sit right now with what the offense had to do? Yes, yeah,

679
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: and four drops, four touchdowns dropped in the game. Obviously

680
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Speaker 4: we'll lose you a lot of football games.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk.

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Speaker 5: About the run game first and then we'll get to

683
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Speaker 5: the drops in the quarterback. So last week against the Colts,

684
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Speaker 5: we were talking about how the big numbers they put

685
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Speaker 5: in the run game up good run game numbers. Yeah,

686
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Speaker 5: if you look at that Pete and JP, Tank Bigsby

687
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Speaker 5: had what was that nineteen yard run that was really

688
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Speaker 5: well blocked and physical run that led to a touchdown,

689
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Speaker 5: and then he had the sixty five yarder that should

690
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Speaker 5: have been a two yard loss. It was defense perfectly

691
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Speaker 5: at mistackles in a great effort and run by Tank Bigsby.

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Speaker 3: I believe if you.

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Speaker 5: Look at the rest of the runs that game, I

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Speaker 5: think they averaged like one point nine to two yards

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Speaker 5: of carry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like they were grinding.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you took those out and so okay, they

698
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Speaker 5: had no big runs against the Bears, and they struggled

699
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Speaker 5: to run the ball effectively. And then you have etn

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Speaker 5: getting hurt. A lot of questions about Deernest johnson snap

701
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Speaker 5: count compared to Tank Bigsby's. I've been a proponent of Bigsby.

702
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Speaker 5: I think he needs more touches. So why less snaps?

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Speaker 5: Less touches for Bigsby? I think for two reasons. One,

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Speaker 5: JP touched on it where the game was late. I

705
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Speaker 5: think they trusted Ernest Johnson more in the more in

706
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Speaker 5: protection in the passing game, so they're having to throw more.

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Speaker 5: And then two, this is me. This is a lot

708
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Speaker 5: of conjecture for me. The second one is the Bears

709
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: are have had The Bears have created the most turnover

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Speaker 5: since twenty twenty three in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: The Bears are very good.

712
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Speaker 5: Ebra Flus preaches this practices it of punching out the ball.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they are ballhawks, and I wonder if there

714
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Speaker 5: was a lack of trust. No one has told me this.

715
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Speaker 5: This is just me guessing. Did they feel more comfortable

716
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Speaker 5: with the earnest out there at times because Tank has

717
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Speaker 5: had some ball security issues. He fumbled again, and he fumbled,

718
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. He fumbled this game, and he

719
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Speaker 5: fumbled last week that great run in the end zone

720
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Speaker 5: and was fortunate to fall back on top of it.

721
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Speaker 5: And so did they just trust the earnest in the

722
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Speaker 5: situation the combination of game, situation, more passing, so he'll

723
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Speaker 5: probably be out there more anyways, and then give him

724
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Speaker 5: maybe less touches because they were afraid of ball security

725
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Speaker 5: by Tank. Is it a trust issue, I don't know.

726
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Speaker 2: By the way, thirty five snaps in the game, Bigsby

727
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Speaker 2: was seventeen, Yeah.

728
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Speaker 3: And how many in the first half, that's the question.

729
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Speaker 1: You got to go look back and look the first

730
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Speaker 1: because you could talk about the ones at the end

731
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Speaker 1: of the game. And by the way, one of them,

732
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Speaker 1: one of them was at the on a kneel down

733
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Speaker 1: at the half. They both were on the field, so

734
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Speaker 1: there's one snap for Bigsby, so that means he had

735
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Speaker 1: one less, so right, they were both on for the

736
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Speaker 1: kneel down. So bottom line is, if he's got a

737
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Speaker 1: fumbling problem and you don't trust him, then that's a

738
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Speaker 1: major issue, because then then if Etn's not in there,

739
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Speaker 1: you really.

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Speaker 3: Don't have a feature back or a guy you think

741
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Speaker 3: you could feature.

742
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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they don't trust H Pete. I'm

743
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Speaker 2: just I'm guessing.

744
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Speaker 1: You're not wrong about that, because you know who else

745
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Speaker 1: I heard talking about that, Fred Taylor on this morning.

746
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Speaker 3: I listened to him this morning.

747
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Speaker 1: I heard him this morning and Fred said, you can't

748
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: put the ball on the ground or you're not gonna play.

749
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Speaker 3: It's that simple.

750
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a lot. How many times now is

751
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: he put the ball on the ground in the six games?

752
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Speaker 1: Four or four times? I think I think it's fourth.

753
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Speaker 3: Way too many, way too many.

754
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 5: Well, if he's fumbled, is it two kickoffs he's fumbled, Yes, yes,

755
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Speaker 5: he had to fumble.

756
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Speaker 3: Indy, that's three. I don't know if there's another one.

757
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's one more, but but three is too many.

758
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Speaker 3: I mean, the bottom line is if you don't.

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Speaker 1: But again, they weren't running the ball, whether it was

760
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Speaker 1: him or the earnest or.

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Speaker 3: They weren't effective Earl Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Or whoever at his prime, or O. J. Simpson back

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Speaker 1: in his day. I mean, they weren't running the ball.

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Speaker 1: And here's part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: Tony.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about effort, and I'm like, this is

767
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Speaker 1: an effort, But how many times did the DEFENSI about

768
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Speaker 1: Gordon slice in there and get a play a run

769
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Speaker 1: play from the backside because nobody blocked them.

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Speaker 3: He was all over the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had some, they had some effective run blitzes,

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Speaker 2: and at least that's what they look like, or you know,

773
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Speaker 2: Gordon was just super aggressive and a lot of times

774
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Speaker 2: the responsibilities on that inside receiver, that slot receiver to

775
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Speaker 2: dig him out and they just couldn't get to him.

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Speaker 1: And one time they had two receivers standing over there

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Speaker 1: and he was the only guy there and neither way

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Speaker 1: it was Kirk and Thomas, neither one of them. I mean, no,

779
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Speaker 1: that to me was a problem. I thought there were

780
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Speaker 1: times there was no push in the middle. Morse wasn't

781
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Speaker 1: as his usual self. I don't think he played as

782
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Speaker 1: well as he.

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Speaker 5: Had I think this was Yeah, I thought watching the tape,

784
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Speaker 5: this was the worst that Mitche had played.

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Speaker 2: I think bitch is played good football.

786
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Speaker 3: I do too, but he has problems with the big

787
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Speaker 3: guy in the middle there at times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who else struggled in the run the laziness in

789
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: the run game again from backside.

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Speaker 3: They don't finish it just it just was. There was

791
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Speaker 3: no rhythm to the run game whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: None.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we gotta take our final break of this

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Speaker 4: first hour of Jaguars Happy We'll come back and get

795
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Speaker 4: into the passing game and the drops and what could

796
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Speaker 4: be next in that regard on offense. Then coming up

797
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Speaker 4: in the second hour, fanatics, fan questions will keep it real.

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Speaker 4: We've got a lot to get to rehashing the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: lost to the Bears at time the Motts First Stadium

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Speaker 4: yesterday and the Jaguars are going head to head with

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Speaker 7: It's a long game, you know, I think as a team,

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Speaker 7: like we have to be we can't be so fragile.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's like it's not gonna go perfect every week.

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Speaker 7: You know, most weeks aren't gonna go perfect.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have.

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Speaker 7: To sometimes dig yourself out of a hole.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: We got down in the second quarter and had an

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Speaker 7: opportunity to come out at halftime and didn't take advantage

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Speaker 7: of it. So no, I don't think that that was

816
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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously you look back, every play matters, and

817
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 7: we had plenty of mistakes, but no, I don't think

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Speaker 7: that that was a huge momentum shift. Obviously you'd love

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Speaker 7: to make it, but no, it's on.

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Speaker 3: All of us.

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, after the game at Tottenamot's First

822
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Speaker 4: Stadium yesterday, I lost to the Bears and welcome back

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Speaker 4: Jaguars Happy Hour. Final few moments of our opening hour

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Speaker 4: of this two hour program each and every Monday, four

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Speaker 4: o'clock on Tinted x l a M, Jaguars dot Com

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Speaker 4: and Jaguars YouTube. Four dropped touchdowns, two from Gabe Davis,

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Speaker 4: one from Brian Thomas. Christian Kirk had one as well

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Speaker 4: to throw in there. So that's the difference in the

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Speaker 4: football game, Tony. That's one of the differences in the

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Speaker 4: football Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well one the two of them came in

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Speaker 3: garbage time too, but it's more Pete it's more systematic. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a systemic systemic.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's a systemic catch the ball, right, catch

835
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Speaker 2: the ball? What do you laugh about? JP?

836
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Speaker 3: Just nothing? Go ahead? I mean systematic and systemic, but

837
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Speaker 3: go ahead.

838
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Speaker 2: I was right up there.

839
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Speaker 3: You're right, he was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Let's just be clear, because that's what this show, you

841
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: too love pointing out when I say something wrong.

842
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Speaker 5: Let's just review the table I said. I said, because

843
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Speaker 5: let's talk about accountability. We've been talking about accountability in

844
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: this organization. We're gonna accountability in the show. I said,

845
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: you just screwed up. But Pete, I'm going to our

846
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Speaker 5: friend JP, who on the last segment said we're going

847
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Speaker 5: to start the next hour.

848
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: He had forgotten we had a whole other segment.

849
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Speaker 1: Correct even read.

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Speaker 3: At the start of this segment. Correct, jping, he just

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Speaker 3: read what's in.

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Speaker 2: Front of you.

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Speaker 3: How hard is that? Well he wasn't here for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: He was back down on the Bregness squads, and now

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Speaker 1: he's back up playing and.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of quentin JP. Wow, Wow, that's bold,

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00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: that's bold.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, when yours truly makes a harmless mistake.

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Speaker 3: Two people, I admitted my mistake.

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Speaker 2: I said a jump.

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Speaker 3: Jug.

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00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: JP still hasn't admitted his mistake. He just started this

863
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: segment saying, this is the final anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were choking, chuckling about it. Nobody who

865
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: heard you before would have known that you did that.

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Speaker 1: That's how he tried to administ day exactly.

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Speaker 3: I said it.

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Speaker 1: I said it wrong, JP, say it. Come on, it's easy,

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Speaker 1: let it out. We'll all let it out.

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Speaker 3: Say it.

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Speaker 2: You were wrong, come on, say you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: I was wrong. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I feel better. I feel better. But back to the

874
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 5: systemic issue of drops. I read somewhere and maybe this

875
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Speaker 5: is a fake stack. I don't know to believe everything

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Speaker 5: I see on the internet, but I think in the.

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Speaker 3: Last two years we like lead the league. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 2: That is that right?

880
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: That's correct?

881
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: That is correct.

882
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: The ball I mean two seasons half yeah, two seasons,

883
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: the last two seasons plus the rest of this one.

884
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: They lead, and drops.

885
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: Get on the drugs machine. I don't catch more balls.

886
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: I have no idea. Folks gets concentrated. I don't know

887
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: what the answers. I didn't play the wide receiver. I

888
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 5: can tell you if you're not pass it and right

889
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 5: at what to do. But if you're not catching the ball,

890
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 5: I mean it goes back to what we talked about

891
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 5: two three weeks ago.

892
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 2: Now, I guess now after the Houston game.

893
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: Pete and everyone wants to yell and scream about we

894
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: press Taylor is a terrible play caller, terrible offense, blah

895
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah blahdah. And we went back to Houston,

896
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: and my point was, how about you just make the

897
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: plays are there. If Trevor and this was on Trevor,

898
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 5: if Trevor hits those two touchdowns, probably beat Houston, probably

899
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: win that game. Those are great play calls. We made

900
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: the plays last week Offensive League against the Colts.

901
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: What happened.

902
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 5: We scored thirty seven and we won. This week, you

903
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 5: dropped four touchdowns. Be interesting.

904
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: If you make the plays that are there, the plays

905
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: that are called, execute and do what you're supposed to,

906
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: things work out. Okay, it doesn't care to win, Pete,

907
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: but it gives you a chance.

908
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: And the first one is the okay, the other look,

909
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: three of the other ones came when it was thirty

910
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: five to sixteen.

911
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: You're still supposed to catch them. But it was thirty

912
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: five to sixteen.

913
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: The Gabe Davis won down the sideline, great throw, has

914
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: to catch it, thirty five to sixteen. The Brian Thomas

915
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: one came right after that, thirty five sixteen, and I

916
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: think the Kirk one was even earlier right there too

917
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: in the end zone. So those ones, yeah, they hurt,

918
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to catch them, but you're not winning

919
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: the game because then the one on the opening drive

920
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: that's set the tone for the day.

921
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: You go get seven there, and I think it's a

922
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: different feel.

923
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: Right away than three threes.

924
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: Three is a lose.

925
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: That's an l that's a losing situation because you got

926
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: to get seven there. And so to me, that one

927
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: is the biggest one of all of them, and that

928
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: that really kind of set the tone for the day.

929
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: But you got to catch all of them, I agree

930
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: with you.

931
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: And they had to settle for what a fourteen play

932
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: eight minute field goal drive on their opening possession, and

933
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: that's how well.

934
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Then they got in the red zone and they had

935
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: false starts too that he actually overcame me. I mean,

936
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that's been plaguing them all

937
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: year long, every time they get into scoring range, they

938
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: have some kind of stupid penalty or mistake. It's just

939
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: and that goes back to what we open the show

940
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: with about coaching and culture and everything else.

941
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: All right, guys, no quit in this show. We've got

942
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: another hour to go.

943
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: Got it right this time JP.

944
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: A whole hour ahead of Jaguars Happy Hour, recapping the

945
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: pairs and the Jaguars. And yeah, we'll keep it real

946
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 4: when we come back, as we haven't done that enough already.

947
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: The fanatics, fan questions coming up as well. Oh yeah,

948
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 4: off and running. We're one hour down, one hour ago.

949
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 4: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.

950
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 6: He's just one man obviously, And and you know, we've

951
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 6: got to play better, you know, all around everybody, you know,

952
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 6: and and and he included, he knows that there's there's

953
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 6: there's ownership in that. I mean coaches the same way

954
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 6: I'm not. I take you know, I take full responsibility obviously,

955
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 6: and and uh, but but we all need to we

956
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 6: all need to be better.

957
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: Head coach Duck Peterson after the game at tad To

958
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: Monts First Stadium in London yesterday, a Bears thirty five

959
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: sixteen win over the Jaguars and welcome back. It's our

960
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 4: two of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings

961
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 4: before the game, after the game, and during the game.

962
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 4: We're on ten tinexl AM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

963
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: The Jaguars defense gave up four passing touchdowns to rookie

964
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: quarterback Caleb Williams of the Bears, the number one overall

965
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: pick too to tight end Cole comet To to veteran

966
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver Keenan Allen, and the Jaguars offense had issues

967
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 4: drops pre snap penalties Keith Penalty is really in big

968
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: moments on both sides of the ball for the Jags,

969
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: and players after the game starting to question the fight

970
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: in the team, as Andre Cisco was quoted after the

971
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: game saying he saw some quit out there at Spurs.

972
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: Now Jags are now one and five and a team that,

973
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: as Doug Peterson put it, is on the brink. So

974
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 4: let's see this week back across town in London at

975
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: Wembley Stadium against the one in five New England Patriots.

976
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: The Jags now six and six all time in London,

977
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 4: four and five at Wembley, and now two and one

978
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: at Tottenham Hot Spurs Stadium.

979
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: J P.

980
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: Shadwick, Tony Piselli and Pete Prisco recapping the game that

981
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: was at Spurs and it was not good is what

982
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: it was?

983
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: Well, I mean just recap it. We've talked about so far.

984
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 5: I still go back to them after the game by

985
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: Andre cisco quit.

986
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: I just cannot believe.

987
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: Like that's the cardinal, Like that's like, did you see

988
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: that on the in the game tape?

989
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 5: I saw jogging, I saw not great effort would be

990
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 5: what we would have termed.

991
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: And I think they still would say this today.

992
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: A loaf, you get a loaf, like, but we've seen

993
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: that a lot if Tony, We've seen it a lot

994
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: this year. It's not just this game.

995
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying.

996
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: But Pitt, you know this, like the one of the

997
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 5: biggest things, like one of the biggest shots you can

998
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 5: take at somebody is that they quit, correct, Like, like

999
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 5: there's certain things that like you don't say about a

1000
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 5: guy like that he quit or if you do, or

1001
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 5: if you do, you're taking a shot at him and

1002
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 5: really questioning who they are as a professional or.

1003
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: No, your your question of is who they are as

1004
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: a professional. If you say you quit, there's like for me,

1005
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: there's a couple.

1006
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 5: You quit because that speaks to my effort, my professionalism,

1007
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 5: like my showing up for my teammates, my accountability, that

1008
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 5: those are all question when you say I quit, and

1009
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 5: then it's it off. It's a lineman like the thing

1010
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 5: that the other thing you didn't want to hear is

1011
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear about that, And don't call

1012
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 5: me soft soft like you didn't want to be a

1013
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: soft team or a soft player. Those are like the

1014
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 5: two like those are like the two like just knives

1015
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 5: in the back and we didn't hear.

1016
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: You don't ever want to hear either one of those.

1017
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: No, we didn't hear soft, So take that off the board.

1018
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: But we heard one of them quit week six, we're

1019
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: talking about quitting. What the heck is going on? And

1020
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: do ball?

1021
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: Well?

1022
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 3: I guess right now in London, But what's going on? Quit?

1023
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: How do you come out of that?

1024
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: Though? How do you come back from that?

1025
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: Well?

1026
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was compounded, but it's kind of compounded

1027
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: by the fact that the coach talked about the culture.

1028
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: It's almost like that's the other thing that throws that's

1029
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: like the fire was started, and he just threw the

1030
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: kerosene on it.

1031
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: I mean, because he didn't.

1032
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: When a coach opens that line of questioning up, that's

1033
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: never a good thing because it's not going to stop.

1034
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't stop. Now you got to ask about quit.

1035
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: You gotta answer about quit. You got to answer about

1036
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: what you meant when you talked about the culture.

1037
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 3: And I mean to me, then.

1038
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: When he was asked about meeting with Shod, I guess

1039
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: he met with Shod before he.

1040
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: Even went to the podium yesterday. Right, he doesn't.

1041
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 5: In fairness my understanding, I'm not down there, but I'm

1042
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: pretty sure this is right. Every game, win or lose,

1043
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 5: Shot goes in and meets Shod, goes in and meets

1044
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: with Doug and Trent after the game. I think that

1045
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 5: happens every game, Beach.

1046
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: That was not an anomaly, which is why some of

1047
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: the media get angry that takes him so long to

1048
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: get to the locker room to get to the first

1049
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: game interview, and yesterday somebody said it was an hour.

1050
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: I was told it was.

1051
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: I left.

1052
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: I was told.

1053
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm out of here. I got.

1054
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you.

1055
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 5: After watching that game, and how I felt about everything.

1056
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 5: I told Jeff and Frank and John Denine. I said, guys,

1057
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 5: clean your stuff up, let's go. We got a car

1058
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 5: waiting for us. We're leaving now.

1059
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: I was, I mean, Pete, I was doing the sprint

1060
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: to the car to get out of that stadium.

1061
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: I want. I was like, I was done so but

1062
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: I was. I was told it.

1063
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: Was five minutes, fifty five minutes.

1064
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: That's what I was told.

1065
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. That should not happen. I'm sorry,

1066
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 3: it should not happen.

1067
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: Well it did. It did again though.

1068
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: Now he's got to So today's is he gonna meet

1069
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: with the media today already?

1070
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: Did he did a zoom earlier today? Did anyone ask

1071
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: about culture or quitting?

1072
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: If they didn't, he didn't, Yeah, And basically he said, yeah,

1073
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: the the culture thing. Yeah, we don't want to losing culture.

1074
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 4: I mean that he kind of what about the quit?

1075
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: Did he did anyone ask that? Andre Cisco said that

1076
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 4: your team quick?

1077
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 2: He said he had not had a chance.

1078
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: The players were off today because the schedule is a

1079
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: little different this week.

1080
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: They're off today.

1081
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: They'll be back tomorrow on the field Wednesday, so really

1082
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 4: hadn't had a chance to sit down with Andre's what

1083
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: he said in the zoom earlier.

1084
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: That's fair. That might have changed.

1085
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: That is fair since then, that was not that much earlier.

1086
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, that's a fair responding. Are the

1087
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: same hotel? Yeah, it's years.

1088
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 3: Off, Pete, hold on, come on, you're smart.

1089
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 5: If players have all day Monday off and they get

1090
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 5: back to the hotel after a game, let's call it seven.

1091
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: What do you think they did.

1092
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: Do you think they were hanging around the hotel last

1093
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: night and all day today? Well, no, they're probably out

1094
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: celebrating the quit.

1095
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 5: No, And like this is what I I I think

1096
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 5: people don't understand these are human beings, that this is

1097
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 5: their job something and or they're out to dinner. They

1098
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 5: probably have may have family or friends in London. You know,

1099
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 5: maybe they stayed the night in London because they you know,

1100
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go do some sights today. I mean, like

1101
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 5: I would tell everyone listening to us, what.

1102
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: Are you doing your day off? Right?

1103
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 5: You go do stuff you're not let me tell you

1104
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 5: what you're not doing on your day off. Nobody listening

1105
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 5: to the show on their day off is looking for

1106
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 5: their boss. After a bad day in the office and saying, hey,

1107
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 5: can we hang out and talk?

1108
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: You know, but if you if your boss tells you

1109
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: it says I want to talk to you, you're going particularly,

1110
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: but I also think doing your job up to your potential.

1111
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: You're going you are. I agree, but you also know.

1112
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes the boss doesn't want to be around the employees either.

1113
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 5: Sometimes the boss needs a break. It's like, I'm gonna

1114
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 5: see you guys on Tuesday. I'll wait till Tuesday to

1115
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 5: address It's like.

1116
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it, I get it.

1117
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: But if something like that has said my building, in

1118
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: my locker room and my team, I'm addressing it the

1119
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: next day.

1120
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm making it different. That's fair. That's fair. I make

1121
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: it go away.

1122
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: I used to talk kauflin that all the way. I

1123
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: go why do you Why do you let it fester?

1124
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Just say it and make it go away. If you

1125
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: don't say it, then Wednesday it's now a story, and

1126
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Thursday it's now a story, and Friday, just say it.

1127
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: Make it go away.

1128
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: If he had come out today and said I am

1129
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: not happy with what Andre said. I haven't talked to him,

1130
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: but I will talk to him, then maybe it would

1131
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: have gone for one day. Now he's got to go

1132
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: talk to Andre went tomorrow, and then it becomes a

1133
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: story again on Wednesday, and then you got to go

1134
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: back in the locker room on Thursday and get Andre

1135
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: or wherever you get these guys nowadays, and get Andre's

1136
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: side of the story.

1137
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: So it's now a.

1138
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: Four day story where it could have been nipped in

1139
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: the bud right away. That's the difference. That's what I

1140
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: if I'm a coach, I handle it that way.

1141
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 5: And Pete, that's fair, that's a that's fair criticism or

1142
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 5: fair analysis. I'm just saying everyone handles it differently as

1143
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 5: your to your point, so, but it's their day off

1144
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 5: like but people like I know it's okay by the.

1145
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: Way, and we know in days off in London and

1146
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: nights out in London can end up in some fun

1147
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: frankases around that sea. I'm hoping there's a statute of

1148
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: limitations on that isn't there.

1149
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not commenting on that.

1150
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 5: I just hope everyone had a lovely evening, enjoyed themselves

1151
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 5: and are back safe tomorrow.

1152
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: That's all I hope.

1153
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 5: I don't but it's a day off and players should

1154
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: go enjoy themselves and take their day off.

1155
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: And I like win loser draw. It's your day off.

1156
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: Everyone handles it differently. Some guys, right, it's your job.

1157
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: It's your job.

1158
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: That's one thing fans sometimes lose sight of. It's their job.

1159
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: You're not happy with the way you handled your job

1160
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but your day off is your day to

1161
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: do what you want to do. It's your job. And

1162
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: then when you come back on Tuesday, then you're back

1163
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: at it again. I agree with you, you're not gonna work.

1164
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 3: And everyone does it different some guys.

1165
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 5: I've known guys that after a loss, they don't want

1166
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: to see anybody, They don't want to do anything, they

1167
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 5: want to get back in the film, they want to

1168
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 5: like they just are so mad. They literally can't do

1169
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: anything else and they can't be around people. And then

1170
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 5: I know other guys that they're upset that they lost

1171
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 5: and it was miserable and they're not happy. But for them,

1172
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 5: the best thing to do is just to go forget

1173
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 5: about it for twenty four hours and go do something else.

1174
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 5: And there's not by the way, one's not better than

1175
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: the other. The person who is grinding.

1176
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: Is that doesn't make them a better player, grinding and

1177
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: mad and miserable to be around, compared to the guy

1178
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: who's just like compartabilizes it.

1179
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 5: And I'll deal with this in you know, twenty four

1180
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 5: to thirty six hours. They're just different approaches, different personalities.

1181
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 5: So I don't think it's a big deal.

1182
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: Well, it's like after a game.

1183
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: Read people's reactions after the game, after the game ends,

1184
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: your team got thumping, you're over there shaking hands with guys.

1185
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1186
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: I never had a problem with that.

1187
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: Ever, I did not either. I remember Pete. I don't

1188
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: know if you remember this. We were playing I think it.

1189
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 5: Was God, I don't know who we played. We lost,

1190
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 5: it lost the close game. It was early years and

1191
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: uh Mark was smiling, shaking hands with like the other

1192
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 5: quarterback and talking to him because he knew him. And

1193
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: I remember like the next day on talk radio and like, ah,

1194
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 5: Bronell doesn't care. Why is he smiling after a loss?

1195
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 5: And I'm like you people, are you kidding me? Like

1196
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 5: he's cool to see a friend. Like if you had

1197
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 5: a bad day at the office, what do you do

1198
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 5: after the game after a bad day at office?

1199
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: Dude, are you not allowed to smile anymore. Come on,

1200
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: But here's one.

1201
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: Here's the one that does bother me, the little bit Tony,

1202
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: And I've noticed this on the tape too.

1203
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 3: Body language.

1204
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: During the game, that's different, Pete. Yeah, I think I

1205
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: analyze that during the game. I agree with you there

1206
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: and that.

1207
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: You'd sit by watching tape. The receivers sometimes on this

1208
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: team have awful body language, how Sophie when they if

1209
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: the ball Now, Brian Thomas is kind of he has

1210
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: some bad body language and the ball doesn't come in

1211
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: his way or or overthrown or whatever. And some of

1212
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: the other guys it's not it's not as good either.

1213
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Just you go, and Tony knows what I'm talking about

1214
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: because you watch the tape.

1215
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: You've seen it.

1216
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: Like even on the underthrown pass to Brian Thomas, body

1217
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: language wasn't great there, right, It was almost like I'm.

1218
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 5: Gonna Pete, I'm gonna be careful, be too critical because

1219
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 5: as you know, you covered me. I had some choice

1220
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 5: words on the sidelines and didn't have the best reaction

1221
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 5: to maybe quarterbacks holding the ball too long or doing

1222
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: something at times on the sideline, or my offensive line

1223
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 5: coach or head coach saying something I didn't like and

1224
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 5: and you know.

1225
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what you wouldn't show like I think body

1226
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: language for wide receivers kind of shows up the quarterback

1227
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1228
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but every yeah, I agree with you.

1229
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

1230
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm not excusing it.

1231
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: Are you talking about like some of the gave Davis

1232
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: stuff last week? Yeah?

1233
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, but that happens. It's emotion whatever game.

1234
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes if the ball goes in the other spot, they

1235
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's just and don't get it wrong. Keenan

1236
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: and Jimmy did the same thing too, So it's just

1237
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: from the DNA in the position.

1238
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 8: But but my bigger issue is my bigger issue is this,

1239
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 8: And if we're talking, my bigger issue is, well, I

1240
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 8: will deem the guys who bought tickets like fans and

1241
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 8: are watching is the play is going on, That's my issue.

1242
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 5: For body language, yes, body language. You need to have

1243
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 5: good body language, You need to be supportive, you need

1244
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 5: to have energy. I think this team lacks urgency. I

1245
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 5: think this team lacks energy at times for whatever reason.

1246
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 5: I've said that since day one. Opening day. Uh, it

1247
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like there's juice on the sidelines. Juice on

1248
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 5: the field. You mentioned guys rallying around high five in

1249
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 5: doing their thing after big plays, celebrating, Like you just

1250
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 5: don't feel that for whatever reason, I don't. I can't

1251
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 5: put my finger on why. But the thing that just

1252
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: sits in my crawl is the I like guys watching.

1253
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, buy a ticket, the fans.

1254
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Are there to watch, and that happens a lot. It

1255
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: happens a lot. Hey, here's the other thing I'm talking about.

1256
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: You're talking about play calling and scheme and everything, and

1257
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: how they make the plays against the Texans and they

1258
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: catch those passes and everything.

1259
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: Here's what I'm gonna get a little critical here.

1260
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: Okay, why do they wait so long? Why do they

1261
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: wait so long on Sunday to drive the ball down

1262
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: the field?

1263
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 5: I think they want to get Trevor in a rhythm

1264
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 5: early with some easy completions. That's my I don't know that.

1265
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: That's my take.

1266
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: Okay, you're paying okay, but okay, okay, let's just say

1267
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: that's the truth. You're paying a quarterback fifty five million

1268
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: dollars a year and you're worrying about him getting into

1269
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: a rhythm.

1270
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 3: There's a problem. There's your problem.

1271
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna remind you of something.

1272
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 5: Just what a guy makes doesn't really matter after you

1273
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 5: pay him, because at the end of the day, everybody's different,

1274
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 5: and guys who make a lot of money can go

1275
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 5: through hard times and sometimes you have to help those times.

1276
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Rhythm, That's not what I'm saying, Tony.

1277
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you're protecting your fifty five million dollar quarterback,

1278
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: I think they're protecting.

1279
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to.

1280
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 5: But I disagree with you, Pete on this one. I

1281
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 5: don't think it's an issue. I think they're trying to

1282
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 5: help him have the most possible success and they think

1283
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 5: and we can argue whether they're right or wrong.

1284
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: I think it's okay. Well I don't. I think it's

1285
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: the right thing.

1286
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: I said it two weeks ago on the show if

1287
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 5: I was based on Trevor was struggling a little bit.

1288
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: It was obvious after the Houston game he wasn't playing

1289
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 5: to his potential. I'm still a big believer that he

1290
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 5: is a guy who will win a super Bowl in

1291
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 5: this with this franchise, and I thought he was in

1292
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 5: a funk. And I think the way you help guys

1293
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 5: like that get out of the funk. Is show get

1294
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: them some easy completions, get him in a rhythm, get

1295
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 5: them going. We see that in every sport.

1296
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think they put him in the funk

1297
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: by constantly preaching turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover. And

1298
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: for the first four games this year, how many time?

1299
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: How many times had he turned the ball over?

1300
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 3: The first four games this year?

1301
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: One think the last two weeks he has three interceptions

1302
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: that I believe.

1303
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you do that to somebody, you turn

1304
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: him into a robot. And I think they turned him

1305
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: into a robot. And that's all Pete, Pete, I know

1306
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: that's your belief.

1307
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 5: It is my mind. I'm not even gonna I know.

1308
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 5: I'm not even arguing the point I did. I I

1309
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 5: think I think it's fine to help a guy get

1310
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: in a rhythm. I think it's fine. I have no

1311
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 5: issues with that at all.

1312
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: I will say this and down on the first third

1313
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: down play where he hits Thomas on the out route.

1314
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: Remember that one for first down the first opening drive.

1315
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Good play, right, good play, you move the change is

1316
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: good play. But he had Kirk on the second level

1317
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: for what would have been like a thirty yard game,

1318
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you saw that on tape, Tony,

1319
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: but it was there and he had no pressure.

1320
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: It was a corner route.

1321
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: And no pressure, so he could stand there and make

1322
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 1: that throw. That, to me, is one of the most

1323
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: concerning things about the way they're playing until he has to,

1324
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: and he had to in the second half. He hit

1325
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: the shot down the field to Ingram when he fumbled,

1326
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: he took the shot down the field of Thomas.

1327
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: They're not doing it. They got to do more of

1328
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: that design that play.

1329
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: The design of that play to Thomas loved it, put

1330
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: him in jet motion and got him up the up

1331
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: the field. The only problem I had with that play

1332
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: was what the hell was Gabe Davis doing. He's in

1333
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: man coverage, cross the face of his guy and keep

1334
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: going and he holds. Okay, it wasn't the safety that

1335
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: knocked the ball down, but he could have been hold

1336
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: that safety. Then you got one on one with the linebacker.

1337
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: You put it out to the thing. I think Trevor

1338
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: saw the safety kind of drifting over and tried to

1339
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: fit it in instead of throw it out because he

1340
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: was fearful of safety. If you remember, gave Davis turns

1341
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: and runs a stop route right there in the middle

1342
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: of the field. I have no idea why that was.

1343
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: All he has to do is cross the face of

1344
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: his guy. The safety has to hold he's looking at him,

1345
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: and he doesn't and he gets over there. If you know,

1346
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: the linebacker made the play because was underthrown, But if

1347
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: it's not underthrown, the safety might get over the top

1348
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: and make the play on the ball.

1349
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: Anyways, my favorite. We talked about effort on this.

1350
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 5: We've been talking about effort and watching and hustle and

1351
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 5: everything else. And you brought up to Evan Ingram fumble.

1352
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 5: Did you notice who was one of the first guys

1353
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 5: down there to make the tackle.

1354
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: On the street.

1355
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: Was it Trevor?

1356
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Trevor.

1357
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that. We've got plenty ahead.

1358
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep it real when we come back, because

1359
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 4: we've been faking it all show, all show long until

1360
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 4: now it gets real when we come back.

1361
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: Bears, Jaguars yesterday.

1362
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 4: In London, coming up next week the Jaguars Patriots at

1363
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 4: Wembley and election days just around the corner.

1364
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: We all need to show up big for our country.

1365
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 4: Whether you're voting early by mail or in person at

1366
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 4: the Polls November fifth Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister

1367
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 4: Chubby's Wing J P. Shadrick with Hall of Famer Tony

1368
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 4: Busselli outside of London. We're at the Grove Resort, headquarters

1369
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: for the Jaguars all week ahead of the Patriots Jaguars

1370
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 4: matchup under the Arch at Wembley this Sunday, and we're recapping,

1371
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 4: of course, the Jaguars lost yesterday to the Chicago Bears

1372
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and Pete Prisco is with us

1373
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 4: on the line down in South Florida. It's time for

1374
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 4: Keeping it Real, presented by Nobody, and we've got a

1375
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 4: lot to discuss. Of course, EA shit every week and

1376
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 4: this week more than most. And the Jaguars are in

1377
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 4: a one in five hole. Doug Peterson was part of

1378
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 4: the coaching staff for the twenty fifteen Chiefs. Pete who

1379
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 4: started one and five and then I think I don't

1380
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 4: think they lost the rest of the year and they

1381
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: made the playoffs as a wildcard team. They could have

1382
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 4: won the division in the last week of the season,

1383
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,959
Speaker 4: but didn't. How did the Jaguars fight out of this hole?

1384
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 4: It doesn't happen too often, maybe like twice ever, one

1385
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 4: in five they don't.

1386
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 3: What do you think, Pete, they don't. They're not going

1387
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: to I mean so now, Also.

1388
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 2: What's that you've quit?

1389
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 3: Also, it sounds like.

1390
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm not playing. I'm a realist. If I was playing,

1391
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't quit. It's my job. But the reality is

1392
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: the schedule gets tougher. Look at the schedule. You show

1393
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: me games where you can sit there other than new Land,

1394
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: who is really bad? If you tell me where they're

1395
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: the possibility of them winning games, they gonna beat the

1396
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:06,959
Speaker 1: Packers at home?

1397
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: No, keep going the schedule. Yeah, here's the schedule.

1398
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 4: This week, of course, the Patriots at Wimbley and then

1399
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 4: next week home against the Packers, two weeks at the Eagles.

1400
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: Schedule for Sunday Night football, Week ten home against the Vikings.

1401
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna be playing Sunday nights week

1402
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 2: at the Detroit Lions. Then the bye week.

1403
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: Where okay, maybe New England. Where's the other one coming from?

1404
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 3: So you think over the next five that this team

1405
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: is going to be two at the best of win

1406
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 3: two at the best of win two at.

1407
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: Best, you'll be three, three and eight going into the

1408
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: buys what you're saying.

1409
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 3: Right at best?

1410
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: More likely, Yeah, that'd be eleven games.

1411
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 3: More likely you would agree with me, it's more likely

1412
01:08:59,840 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: to be.

1413
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1414
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm at a lost Pete.

1415
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: I mean, if you had asked me at the beginning

1416
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: of the season, I thought that they would beat the Bears,

1417
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 2: no problem with the rookie quarterback. I think they'll beat

1418
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: the Patriots. But is that with the.

1419
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: Rookie quarterback or the rookie quarterback.

1420
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: With the rookie quarterback which beat the Patriots? Though, But Pete,

1421
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 2: would you lock the Patriots game light right now?

1422
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 1: Not the way this team is playing with everything going on, No, No.

1423
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: I would not.

1424
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: And yeah, by the way, some good things in the

1425
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: second half Drake may did some good things in the

1426
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: second half Sunday.

1427
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: But quit.

1428
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I'm with you, Pete, because when I hear

1429
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 5: players talk about quit, that guys are quitting and there's

1430
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 5: cultural issues or whatever that was, I mean, I don't know.

1431
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what this team can do. Like, we

1432
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: keep on doing what we're doing this show, and we've.

1433
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 5: Done it a couple of times now, and know and

1434
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 5: four we're like, oh, the ninety two Chargers They're like okay,

1435
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 5: like we got a chance and then we get we

1436
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 5: beat the pain we beat the Colts, like okay, here

1437
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 5: we go come back with.

1438
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: The ninety six Jaguars were three and six at one.

1439
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 5: Yeah kay, and I last week on the show, beat

1440
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 5: double lock in We're gonna come back from London three

1441
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 5: and four were right in.

1442
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 9: It right now, a double We double locked, double locked it.

1443
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 9: Ever again, I had nothing to do with it. They

1444
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 9: wouldn't let me get in on it. There might not

1445
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 9: be another lock on this show. There will not be

1446
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 9: another double lock. I will not allow it for sure,

1447
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 9: because we are over on double locks this year. I'm

1448
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 9: not sure there's gonna be a lock for the rest

1449
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 9: of the year on the show.

1450
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: Well, you might lock the other team. I will never

1451
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 3: ever do that the Packers never. I might lock might

1452
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: lock the Packers in a couple of years.

1453
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's just but based on everything that's

1454
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: gone on and the way they played and the quit

1455
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: talk and the culture, there's not a chance in hell

1456
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: you can sit here and say they can they're guaranteed

1457
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,440
Speaker 1: to win any of those games.

1458
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 2: What do you think happens this week?

1459
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: I do think they win this week.

1460
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: Tell me about the Patriots, Pete, Are they good anywhere?

1461
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: Are they good on defense? Are they good on offense?

1462
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 2: Are they good?

1463
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 3: Got run on?

1464
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: They got run on on Sunday and they get run

1465
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: on the last three weeks. And the offensive line they

1466
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: finally had the five guys who started at one point

1467
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: started together on Sunday. I'll tell you he's a good

1468
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: little player. The Mandarin kid, Tomrio Douglas. He was Carson

1469
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: Beck's wide receiver at Mandarin High School. And if he

1470
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: had a real you're starting to see it with Drake

1471
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: may he's starting to make plays. If he had a

1472
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: real quarterback for the last year and a half, he'd

1473
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: be really a good player. So but they're not good.

1474
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: That's not a good football team. It just isn't. And

1475
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: they have this talk of you know, hiring of Mayo

1476
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: already too, so you know that works. But so they

1477
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: have their owner. I'm like some.

1478
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 3: Rumblings about that.

1479
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just got it all up, I know.

1480
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: But add it all up and you got the same issues.

1481
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: So no, Jacksonville should win the game. But would you

1482
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: sit here if the Patriots came in and Drake May

1483
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: threw for three hundred and three touchdowns and you lost

1484
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: that game, would you be totally shocked by it? No?

1485
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: No, They're the worst pass defense in football the Jaguars. Yeah,

1486
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,879
Speaker 2: that's that's troubling. That is very troubling.

1487
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 5: Uh why is that by it? Do they play hard?

1488
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 5: Do the Patriots play hard? I'm trying to look for

1489
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 5: something that I should worry about. They play hard?

1490
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: But why?

1491
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: Why?

1492
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: Why is the why is? That's a legitimate question. Why

1493
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: is Jacksonvill's pass defense the worst in the NFL.

1494
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 5: We don't have a consistent pass rush and we try

1495
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 5: to play a lot of man and if you don't

1496
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 5: have consistent pass rush, guys are gonna get open.

1497
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: We have too many blown coverages and and injuries. We

1498
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 2: have some injuries. I don't buy that.

1499
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: Sorry, the line bark, linebackers, the linebackers are.

1500
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: Everybody has injuries.

1501
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: JP, I'm not that's not uncoccused without Brisker.

1502
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: The Bears played without Brisker and Stevenson right on side.

1503
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: No Brisker, yeah, Brisker.

1504
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1505
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: So it's the injury.

1506
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 5: And the linebackers don't cover, We don't get we don't

1507
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 5: get consistent pressure with four, and we don't blitz, and

1508
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 5: we play man, I mean you just I think it's

1509
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 5: I don't think it's any one thing.

1510
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 3: I think it's all. And the linebackers aren't good in coverage.

1511
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean they they take bad zone drops and they're

1512
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: not good in man coverage. So it's it's just a

1513
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: combination of.

1514
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: All of it.

1515
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: Besides that, it's everything's working perfectly.

1516
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: By the way, an get they get to thirty sacks

1517
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: this year? Is that what you predicted the two outside

1518
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: guys would have thirty this year?

1519
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: I thought I said twenty seven.

1520
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 3: He's no, No, I'm not. I'll stand by what I say.

1521
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: I stand by I think I said.

1522
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 3: Twenty and a half right now.

1523
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 5: Uh, well, they would add more if they didn't have penalties.

1524
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 5: But I think Trayvon is five and a half and

1525
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 5: Josh he got another one on Sunday. Josh has two

1526
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 5: and a half three and a half. They got a

1527
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 5: long way to go to.

1528
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 4: Get Yeah, Trevon Honker has five, Josh Haines Allen has

1529
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Speaker 4: two and a half half.

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Speaker 3: Right half the twenty four you said thirty, Are you

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01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 3: really I think you said thirty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they need to average to a game basically

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01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: for the rest year.

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 4: So they need to get like three score leads, so

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 4: teams have to pass game.

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Speaker 1: We bowed down to Tony last year because he got

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01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: that prediction right.

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 3: Remember at the end of the year we laughed at

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 3: him in the beginning year he got it right.

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: Well now we're gonna be laughing out this time around.

1541
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: He ain't getting this one right.

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: All right, listen, I deserve it. If I'm wrong, I'm fine.

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01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: I'll own I'll own what I say. There you have it.

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: That is keeping it real, presented by nobody will come

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:19,320
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1546
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 4: not very positive you think after that game, that's how

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Speaker 10: the trust and everybody in here, but this is Urgency

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Speaker 10: needs to pick up the passion to love, uh, the

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Speaker 10: reason why we do the things that we do need

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 10: to need to pick up a little bit more. And

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 10: it starts to Tuesday once we get to practice in

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01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 10: no focus on the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Josh heinz Allen after the game yesterday at tottenhamhots First

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 4: Stadium a Jaguars lost to the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 2: And yes, the Jags players off Monday.

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Speaker 4: That's backward from normal and usually it's Tuesday, but off today.

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Speaker 4: They'll be back on Tuesday and then on the practice

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Speaker 4: field Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, which is right here at the

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Speaker 4: Grove Resort j P. Shadwick Tony Boselli just outside of London,

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Speaker 4: Pe Prisco with us down in South Florida. And it's

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Speaker 4: time for the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans gear up

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Speaker 4: earlier today. Here's the best we've come up with from

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01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 4: two continents. Question number one at JAG's Evolution, Ask Pete,

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01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: why in the world is Ronald Darby starting over? Prince

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01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: Prince can do exactly what Darby does. At least we

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01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 4: can blame it on being a rookie, Pete. We lost

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 4: Pete there.

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: I said early in the season, I thought Darby played okay,

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01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: and the last couple of weeks not so much.

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01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: So are you gonna sit.

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: Down a guy who paid a boatload of money for

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: for a late round draft pick highly unlikely.

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01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,799
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I mean, I have have we seen anything

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01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 5: from Prince that we think he's better.

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01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: We haven't really seen him much, that's my point. Yeah,

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01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: I mean, but the coach who has seen him in

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: practice every day. The coaches, and the one thing I

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: know about coaches, typically their jobs are on the line.

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna play the guys they think that.

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01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 5: We can disagree with them, but they're gonna play the

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01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 5: guys they think give them the best chance of winning.

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01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,440
Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty universal.

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 5: I've yet, I don't think I've ever met a coach

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01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 5: at purposely is putting a guy who's worse than another

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 5: guy in the field because they want to lose.

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: Like that's their job.

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01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 5: So you know, now we can disagree with who's better

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01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 5: and why, and you can disagree who gets cut, who

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 5: does it, who they keep, you know, who they draft,

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 5: all those things. Those are those are great topics to debate,

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 5: But once you get in the season, usually.

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Speaker 3: The coaches are going to try to play the guys

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Speaker 3: they think give him the best.

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Speaker 5: But unless unless Pete, there's some political thing that the

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 5: coaches want to play one guy in the GM and

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01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's the case here, but we've seen

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01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 5: it in the history of the league where wants X

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 5: person to play, the coaches want why person to play,

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 5: and there's a disagreement, and then whoever has the power,

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01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 5: you know, wins that battle.

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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's the case never. X should never

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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: tell why who to play.

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: Ever, X should never tell why, should make why and

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01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: his coaches should make that decision. Now, when a guy

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01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: gets a boatload of money in free agency, and Darby's

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: not getting a boatload of money, but when he's making

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01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: that aunt of money, whatever he got, there is a

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01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: tendency to lean more towards that guy. Against a late

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01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: round rookie that you might throw in there and see

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Speaker 1: what he can.

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 3: Do, you'll be much more patient. You'll be patient with him.

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to be clear though, we are not

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01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 5: saying neither Peter I at least I'm not.

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself. I'm not either.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that there's any there's any of that

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 5: going on in this organization, where there's disagreements who should

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 5: be playing, who should not be playing. I'm just saying

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01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 5: in the history of the league and past. I know

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01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 5: that has happened based on a draft pick guy where

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Speaker 5: he got drafted, or money's getting paid or anything else.

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Speaker 5: I don't I've not heard that happening here. I don't

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01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 5: know of that happening. But I agree with you, Pete

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01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 5: on the fact that the way it should work, and

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Speaker 5: I believe that's how it happens here is the front office,

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 5: the GM and scouts pick the players with help of coaches.

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Speaker 5: But the end of the day, it's the coach's decision

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 5: who plays and who does.

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01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: Not, and it should be And I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 1: I know that for a fact.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. Yeah, I'm not saying you are,

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01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 3: but but I just wanted to be coach.

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01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: Bulky is on the field as a coach almost every

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: every practice, too, is he not?

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 3: So maybe when he's masquerading as a.

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01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: Coach, he decides he's gonna put his input in to

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01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: see who's playing. That's that's part of the problem. It

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: was that way in San Francisco. I mean, I.

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 3: Told you, I saw your face when I said that.

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01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're not gonna GWO time out now.

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 3: Let me.

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01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: I will speak for myself on this topic. I have

1648
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: not been at.

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 5: Any practices in the regular season. I was obviously at

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01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 5: camp with a lot of other people. I have no idea.

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01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 5: I can honestly say I've not been to a practice,

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01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 5: and I have not been in a practice for the

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01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 5: in the last two years during the regular season, actually

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01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 5: the last since Doug Peterson's been the head coach, I've

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01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 5: been at a regular season practice. So I have no idea,

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01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 5: nor have I Trent does.

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: Or does not do.

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01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: I have no clue, and I'm not going to come

1659
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong.

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01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, Correct me if I'm wrong.

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01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: But the team has sent out video and I think

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01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: it was like a week ago or so or somewhere

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01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: where he's on the field talking. Maybe it was when

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01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: they unveiled their new uniforms or something that he was

1665
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: he was there.

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01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, Pete, I must have missed those videos.

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01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: Next question from X shaking, can you back me up

1668
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: on that was their video?

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01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: Like that? Am I wrong? I'm sure. I don't think

1670
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 3: you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong. I don't think

1671
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 3: you're wrong. Next question, I don't know.

1672
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 4: From social media earlier today, fanatic expand questions, all right,

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01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 4: Ed Samuel Duval, lift the embargo on Draft talk? How

1674
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 4: many more shows repeating yourselves? Can you do well?

1675
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 7: We know.

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: That's the funniest question ever, because basically this question is, say,

1677
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: you guys say the same dang thing every week. I'm

1678
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: tired of hearing that.

1679
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 3: When are we going to talk about the draft? So

1680
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 3: this is a Pete Priscoll fan.

1681
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 5: However, Samuel, I hate to tell you, Uh, it's a

1682
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 5: fair question, but we will not talk about the draft

1683
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 5: or anything to do with free agency next year, draft,

1684
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 5: roster compilation, or any compensation or compilation is that right said? Compilation,

1685
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 5: composition or whatever, either one you want to say.

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01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: We're four different, oh for three, whatever word you want

1687
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 3: to do.

1688
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about the structure of the

1689
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: roster or for next year, what's gonna happen in the

1690
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: off season, who they pick, who they cut free agency

1691
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: until we are eliminated mathematically from the playoffs we are

1692
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: still in the play.

1693
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 3: Or not or not you're not, so I can.

1694
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: Here's what I have to say. Go get big people,

1695
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: Go get big people. Get some big people. Get some

1696
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: really good big people, whether they're offensive lineman or interior

1697
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 1: defensive Lineman, go get big people.

1698
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stand by my convictions. No comment.

1699
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: You're not the producer of the show. I'm not.

1700
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: That's you saying that I love talking draft, so I

1701
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 1: could talk draft.

1702
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying early returns.

1703
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: If they had the number one overall pick, they would

1704
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: take big people, you know, because everybody's gonna get all

1705
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: in this Travis.

1706
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: Hunter thing and get him. He's a great player, and

1707
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 3: he is a great player.

1708
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: Or what I would do, I would trade trade down

1709
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: and get assets for the pick.

1710
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 3: That's what I would do.

1711
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 4: Travis, Tony, don't go. He almost baited you in talking draft.

1712
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I'm speaking about I'm speaking about watching

1713
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 5: college football.

1714
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 4: I enjoy watching Travis Hunter. Don't let him do it

1715
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 4: for Colorado. He's trying to back door you and gets

1716
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 4: you to talk about it.

1717
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 5: I love the fact that that guy plays both sides

1718
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 5: of the ball, plays almost.

1719
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 3: Every snap in the game, and his dynamic.

1720
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 5: On both sides the ball. Now, you got hurt last week.

1721
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 5: I understand that's too bad, But he's not a big guy.

1722
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 3: These big people, Tony, you're the first one who preaches it.

1723
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: There's only so many big people on the planet. Who

1724
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 3: can play football.

1725
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 5: And Pete, I believe that, you know how, I believe

1726
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 5: the game is supposed to be played. You know my philosophy,

1727
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 5: you know how I think that you struck build a team,

1728
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 5: you know all those things. But I'm not talking about

1729
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 5: it until we're eliminated from the playoffs.

1730
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 3: And we're not. We're in the playoff hunt.

1731
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: Yet we're selling they need to take big people, because

1732
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: you just agreed with me.

1733
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 3: I got it, Pete. We're only four games back right

1734
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: now with eleven to go that we're in.

1735
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 4: It, you know, Okay, twenty fifteen chiefs, the spirit of

1736
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 4: the sheep, we're in it to win it.

1737
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 3: Baby in the.

1738
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 4: Nineteen seventy Chargers as well, U at least one more

1739
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 4: question than fan questions today.

1740
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 2: Oh we just.

1741
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 3: Had the seventy Chargers.

1742
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 4: Man, how much of a red flag of Cisco's a

1743
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 4: lot of quid on the field? Comment post came about

1744
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 4: what's going on behind the scenes with the team. It

1745
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 4: sounds tremendously concerning. That's at radius, Joe Hanson. So it's

1746
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: a it's.

1747
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 5: A blaring, bright red flashing light. I don't know why

1748
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 5: I would not my recommendation, Andre would say don't say

1749
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 5: that publicly. If it's an If it's real and that's

1750
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 5: an issue, deal with that behind closed doors, deal with

1751
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 5: that in the locker room. Call the guys out in

1752
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 5: the locker room, have the conversation. That's a that's a team,

1753
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 5: that's an internal issue. I just don't think you air

1754
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 5: that laundry publicly.

1755
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.

1756
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:49,879
Speaker 3: I agree.

1757
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean as a journalist, I would have loved it.

1758
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: As a as a guy if I was on the team.

1759
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: If I was on, hey, kudos to Brett Martina, he

1760
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: got him to say it. But as a as a

1761
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: guy who was involved, if I was a coacher, a

1762
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: player on that team, I wouldn't be happy about it,

1763
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: and I would call him out immediately.

1764
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 5: Pete would have been running with that JP. Oh my gosh,

1765
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 5: that would have been the headline of the Times Union

1766
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 5: with Bye pret Prisco Jaggs quit right. I mean, there

1767
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 5: would have been a story all week. He would have

1768
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 5: been asking every player every time at the podium, the

1769
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 5: coaches up there. He would have been running this thing.

1770
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 5: And you know what times have changed.

1771
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: Like when I was a beat guy, I really wasn't

1772
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: supposed to put opinion into it. You know i'd have

1773
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: to get but now they like I said, I would

1774
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: be a Jaguars columnist, and I would.

1775
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 3: I would have said, we all thought they quit, but

1776
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 3: now we know.

1777
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: They did because they said it.

1778
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: It was gold. Terrible, terrible.

1779
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 5: That's why you can't say that pubblic you cannot say

1780
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 5: that in the media.

1781
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 4: They have a fanatics fan questions. Thanks for all the

1782
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 4: submissions today, Yeah, there were plenty, and you can check

1783
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 4: out all of those on X. We're back in a

1784
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 4: moment with a look around the National Football League Jags fans.

1785
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,640
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1786
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Speaker 4: the Year and earn a trip to Super Bowl fifty nine?

1787
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 4: Visit NFL dot com slash Fan of the Year and

1788
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 4: nominate someone. Today it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister

1789
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:32,000
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1790
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,840
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1791
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1792
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,320
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1793
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 4: available inventory and go Jags and a correction. I was

1794
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 4: wrong again, Pete, I was wrong.

1795
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: I like this.

1796
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 4: It was the nineteen seventy Cincinnati Bengals, who were actually

1797
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 4: one in six and rallied to back the playoffs.

1798
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: Is that's that's the Greg Cook Bengal If I'm not mistaken,

1799
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: he was a I think that was the year he

1800
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: was on his way to be at a star and

1801
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: tore his shoulder up.

1802
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if that was. I think

1803
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 3: that was that year.

1804
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: But anyways, you know what the story behind that is

1805
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:14,879
Speaker 1: the West Coast offense.

1806
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: The West Coast.

1807
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: Offense was born off of that because Greg Cook could

1808
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: drive the ball down the field and he got hurt,

1809
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: and the quarterback they replaced him with, Bill Walsh was

1810
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: on that staff. Virgil Carter couldn't throw the ball down

1811
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: the field. So that's where the West Coast offense was born.

1812
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Little little football history for you.

1813
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: How about that name?

1814
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it was the seventy I think it was.

1815
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, Yeah, I never I think.

1816
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: So interesting, very interesting.

1817
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: He was going to be a star quarterback to take

1818
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: and he tore up his shoulder and that was before

1819
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: surgery could repair his shoulder, and he was never the same.

1820
01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 2: He played twelve games, Yeah, had three percent completion percentage

1821
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: for fifteen touchdowns in nineteen seventy nine, nineteen seven, Yeah, Pete.

1822
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: In sixty nine he started eleven games, was four to

1823
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: six and one through fifteen touchdowns eleven interceptions. So yeah,

1824
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: he was a star.

1825
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 3: Numbers are different than to look at everybody's numbers.

1826
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm joking. I'm joking.

1827
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 5: Nineteen seventy did not play injured shoulder, nineteen seventy one,

1828
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 5: did not play injured shoulder. In seventy two he retired.

1829
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 5: Oh no, he did not play, and then seventy three

1830
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 5: tried to come back. Played one game through the ball

1831
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 5: three times, one completion for eleven yards.

1832
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how the West cast I can go

1833
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 3: down this.

1834
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know we were going to go down this

1835
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 2: rabbit hole, but.

1836
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 3: Here we are.

1837
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 4: Let's go educating. Football League. Appreciate that, Pete. You're you're

1838
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: an educator. We appreciate that. Uh NFL games yesterday, Ravens

1839
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 4: over the Commanders thirty to twenty three. The Packers blasted

1840
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 4: the Cardinals thirty four to thirteen. The Texans put up

1841
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 4: forty one on the Patriots forty one to twenty one.

1842
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 4: The Patriots coming here later in the week, they arrive

1843
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 4: on Friday, and hey, you know we talked about the

1844
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 4: Patriots earlier. The Texans are in first place for a reason.

1845
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. We thought the division was going

1846
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 1: to be tough. The Texans are looking around going we're waltson,

1847
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,480
Speaker 1: We're waltson. The division's not very good.

1848
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 3: What's the culture? What?

1849
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 2: Three and three?

1850
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? But do you think they're any good? If they're healthy?

1851
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 3: I think they got a chance.

1852
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,839
Speaker 5: But with correct Theaterbell, the injuries, with who had quarterback Flacco,

1853
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 5: you got you.

1854
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 3: Gotta, said Anthony Richards Ody, you want to win, they're

1855
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 3: not any good.

1856
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 4: Moving along, the Buccaneers put up fifty one on the Saints,

1857
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 4: fifty one to twenty seven.

1858
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: The final Saints Tarry two and oh Pete four straight losses,

1859
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: and you can't blame that on the quarterback, because you know,

1860
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: car didn't play.

1861
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 3: Ratler played.

1862
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Ratler actually did some good things, but through a couple

1863
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 1: of interceptions later.

1864
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 3: But their defense was terrible, terrible.

1865
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: And they actually got back into the game and took

1866
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: the lead, and then Bucks responded.

1867
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 3: Bucks ran for over two hundred yards without Rashad White.

1868
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 5: If I remember correctly, at the beginning of the year. Pete,

1869
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 5: you said that you didn't think that the Saints were old.

1870
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 5: You said you didn't think they'd be good. I remember

1871
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 5: they start up to and Oh, I'm like, Prisco doesn't

1872
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 5: know what he's talking about. Now after losing four straight,

1873
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, Pete might be right.

1874
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 3: Well, I thought Jackson will be a playoff team. So

1875
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm talking about.

1876
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: I don't think any of missed too.

1877
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 3: Nobody knows.

1878
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 4: The Colts over the Titans, of course, twenty to seventeen,

1879
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 4: Chargers beat the Broncos twenty three sixteen Steelers.

1880
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 2: Well, go back to that Chargers game. Bro It's.

1881
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 3: Coach Jim Harball had a hard issue on.

1882
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 2: The sideline and left the game for a while.

1883
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought initially we thought initially like he had,

1884
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: you know, like the upset stomach or something, and then

1885
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: they announced that afterwards.

1886
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: That's scary. His heart was out of rhythm. So terrible.

1887
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 3: But I think.

1888
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,799
Speaker 1: That's a good win for them, coming off a bye

1889
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: and going into Denver and beating them the way they did,

1890
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 1: that's a good win for them. Steelers over, they don't quit.

1891
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: They played tough and hard. By the way, In case

1892
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: anybody's wondering.

1893
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Pete. Appreciate that. Falcons over the Panthers.

1894
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 4: Everybody's over the Panthers these days, Lions forty seven to nine,

1895
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 4: but over the Cowboys. But Aiden Hutchinson with a broken leg,

1896
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: and it.

1897
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: Was bad man. As soon as that happened, you could

1898
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: read his leg. He knew right away and you could

1899
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: see it. It was one of those danglers. It wasn't good

1900
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: that it's a it's a broken tibia. Now I've seen

1901
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: some doctors on Twitter.

1902
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 3: They say it was just tibbia, wasn't it. Yeah, that's

1903
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 3: what they said online. Yes, I said, some doctors say

1904
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 3: that ends the season? Is that right, Tony?

1905
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 5: You know what I read is that he could if

1906
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 5: they make the Super Bowl, that he could be back

1907
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 5: by you know, so early February, and that it is

1908
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 5: not going to be an injury that will impact his

1909
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 5: career long term.

1910
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: Is what I'm doing.

1911
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the rest of the Sea because that's

1912
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: a damning blow to that defense.

1913
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 3: He was on his way to be maybe the defensive

1914
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 3: player of the year.

1915
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: Yep. But they're really good on offense.

1916
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 4: They actually put out a statement this afternoon that Hudginson

1917
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 4: underwent successful surgery to repair the tibia and fibula.

1918
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's both.

1919
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 3: So they've updated it. So got no timetable for return. Yeah,

1920
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 3: he won't play this year. He won't play that this year.

1921
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: By the way, is there ever any successful surgery that's

1922
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: any surgery that's announced is not being successful.

1923
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 5: No, But I think what was what I think what

1924
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 5: was comforting if you're a Lions fan is not that

1925
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,919
Speaker 5: it was successful, but that they're based on the injury,

1926
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 5: there shouldn't be no long term impact to his career.

1927
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he should come back no issues next year.

1928
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 5: And I think that because I'm with you, Pete, he's

1929
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,839
Speaker 5: I don't see him coming back this year. Maybe outside

1930
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 5: chance if they're in the super Bowl, which this is

1931
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 5: the team that's probably good enough to get there, but

1932
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 5: you're not gonna have him for the rest of the

1933
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 5: regular season, all the playoffs until the super Bowl at

1934
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 5: the soonest.

1935
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 2: But I think the positive, which as a former player

1936
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 2: and this guy likes good play, watching good football players,

1937
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 2: and he's one of them, I'm glad that there's gonna

1938
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:35,879
Speaker 2: be should be no impact long term.

1939
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one quick thing, uh Gyro fans watched the lot.

1940
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: You should watch the Lions a lot. That's why you

1941
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: should watch the Lions lot.

1942
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 2: Move on JP Monday Night Football, we head to the Meadowlands.

1943
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 4: It's an AFC showdown for first place. Josh Allen in

1944
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 4: the three in two Buffalo Bills face Aaron Rodgers and

1945
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 4: the two and three Jets a week after they whacked

1946
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 4: head coach Robert Sala after the loss here in London.

1947
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 4: Who you got in the swamps of New Jersey.

1948
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: Pete, I'm gonna go against the new coach, bump and

1949
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: go with the old coach and the old quarterback. I'm

1950
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna take. I'm gonna take the old quarterback. I'm gonna

1951
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 1: take the younger quarterback. I'm gonna take the Bills to

1952
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 1: go in there and win this. The whole Jets thing

1953
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: just stinks to me. It stinks, the whole thing.

1954
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 3: I'll take. I'll take the Bills.

1955
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Bills win. I think the Bills

1956
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: are the better team.

1957
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 4: All right, that's it. We got some bonus time here

1958
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: with Tony. Yes, we do very good.

1959
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I I mean going to next week, people,

1960
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 5: what do you think?

1961
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean?

1962
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 3: You got the Patriots? You're a better team.

1963
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean they.

1964
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 5: I mean I was just reading online. I mean the

1965
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 5: Gerard Meo came out and said, listen, we have holes

1966
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 5: in the roster. It's not a one year rebuild, which

1967
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 5: I actually also think speaks to what Bill Belichick did,

1968
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 5: who's the greatest coach of all time, but it speaks

1969
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 5: to his the GM side of his responsibilities at that organization.

1970
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 2: It's not a good roster.

1971
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 5: It was not Gerd Mayo was not handed off a

1972
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 5: good roster, and I appreciate his honesty.

1973
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, this is gonna be both of years

1974
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 2: to get this thing where we need to.

1975
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 4: Pete, who wins Sunday at Wimbley Jacksonville wins?

1976
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: If they don't, maybe people don't get back on the plane.

1977
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 3: It's not that funny, Pete. I hope you're all.

1978
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they win win by win by

1979
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and the two defensive ends will each have

1980
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:36,759
Speaker 1: a sack and a half.

1981
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 3: How about that.

1982
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 2: I like that.

1983
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 3: That helps my prediction of thirty total to.

1984
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: Two and a half each.

1985
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: Hey, come on, two and a half boy, let's get

1986
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 3: back on tracks.

1987
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 4: Tired crew on both continents for the production of today's show,

1988
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 4: and thank.

1989
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 2: You for listening to Jaguars.

1990
01:36:56,200 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 4: Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings