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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to season five, Episode two

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Speaker 1: of The Daily Zychist, four November seven, two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien, and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Greetings everybody. I hope you're having a blessed day. This

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Speaker 1: is my new positive spin I'm trying to do on

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Speaker 1: my opening very peaceful. Yes, bless you all, And we're

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the

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Speaker 1: hilarious writer and humorist Dave Shilling. Oh Hi, oh hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going on? Hello? Hi? How art thou? I

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Speaker 1: is good? Yeah? A little Shakespeare for Queen's English? Yes, Dave.

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Speaker 1: What is something that you've searched in the not too

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Speaker 1: distant past that is revealing about who you are as

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Speaker 1: a human being? Oh? Well, I gotta announced right up

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Speaker 1: front that I recently had a child, so I've been searching. Hey, hello,

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Speaker 1: he was born the day of Game seven of the

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Speaker 1: World Series, so he absolutely cursed. Um. I searched Dinosaurs

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Speaker 1: baby on Google recently this morning, actually, because I think

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Speaker 1: my kid looks like the baby from Dinosaurs from not

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Speaker 1: the mama exactly, not the mama. And then he hits

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Speaker 1: the he hits the dad with the saucepan that guy

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Speaker 1: because it's the same skin tone. He's a biracial kid,

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Speaker 1: so he's very like he's tan. He's creamy, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: It's like my coffee, but with a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of that delicious, delicious cream stuff. Um so yeah. And

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Speaker 1: then I tweeted, uh, I love my son in a

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Speaker 1: picture of the Dinosaurs bab and everybody was like, you're

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Speaker 1: not nice to your kid. He's five days old and

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Speaker 1: you're already comparing him to a muppet. I remembered him

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Speaker 1: as purple the Dinosaurs baby he had, he had purple pants,

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Speaker 1: didn't he Maybe I thought she always in a diaper

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Speaker 1: or something. Definitely a diaper. I remember my my uncle

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Speaker 1: was like first a d and he worked on that show.

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Speaker 1: And I went to the set. It was the most

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking ship to see. It's a kid miles my uncle

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Speaker 1: wrote for Dinosaurs. That's crazy? Is that real? Yeah? What knew?

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Speaker 1: There was something? The Dinosaurs reunion of our uncle's greatest

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Speaker 1: series foranale of all time because all the characters die

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Speaker 1: at the unbelievable it's actually kind of appropriate for today's um. So,

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Speaker 1: what what's something that you believe to be overpreaded? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with black ice cream? What is going

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Speaker 1: on with this? I see on Instagram all the time

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Speaker 1: people are like, got cones with this, this vanilla ice cream,

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Speaker 1: but it's black because says charcoal in it. It's still

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Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream. I grew up with crystal pepsi and

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Speaker 1: the gimmick was it's a different color than what you're

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Speaker 1: ironically drink it now when I see it a target

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Speaker 1: or something, but it wasn't good. So why are people

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Speaker 1: so obsessed with black ice cream? Do you guys know

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Is this totally like I know,

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Speaker 1: like black sesame ice cream? I don't. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that they were just right up making vanilla ice cream

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Speaker 1: look black. There's a place downtown I think it's called

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Speaker 1: Little Damage in Los Angeles and they sell black ice cream,

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Speaker 1: black vanilla ice cream. And are they Are they touting

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Speaker 1: any kind of like health benefits because they're ruggle just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got black ice cream. I think charcoal is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be good. For your um. It's it's like it

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Speaker 1: purifies you in somebody or good for hangovers. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think they say that. And they just say, come

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Speaker 1: take a picture with this ice cream. It's a funny color.

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Speaker 1: It makes me mad. If I can't trust the health

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Speaker 1: advice of gimmick ice cream, then can you trust you

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Speaker 1: know what something you think is underrated? Being a parent?

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Speaker 1: It's great. I thought it would be just a pissing

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Speaker 1: poop explosion, but there's actually moments of real joy when

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Speaker 1: what kind of joy are we talking here? I have

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Speaker 1: he's farting and it looks like a smile. Or you

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Speaker 1: put like a like a funny costume on and like

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Speaker 1: a bought him a suit at Target with a little

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Speaker 1: of baby town. Look at you. You're like, now, sign

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Speaker 1: this decree, yes, get him a top hat in a

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Speaker 1: Monica And then he's missed her peanut. Uh, this actually

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Speaker 1: sounds great. Yeah, there's a place your rent babies for

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Speaker 1: Great cool. I have costumes and everything, so don't drop

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Speaker 1: him on his soft spot. No, no, no, no no, I

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Speaker 1: just I have a have a calendar I'm working on,

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Speaker 1: because you know about medicine in your family's maybe I

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah. And the good news is that this is

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Speaker 1: something that I hadn't heard before I had a kid,

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Speaker 1: but that it only gets better. It gets more and

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Speaker 1: more fun. Like the further they get into life, they

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Speaker 1: get like more of a personality. Uh and and it

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Speaker 1: just keeps getting more and more fun. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: than I signed up for. Yeah, oh yeah, that does

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Speaker 1: happen like last night? No, no, I I kind of

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Speaker 1: toughs last night? Really? Yeah, So if I'm not funny,

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Speaker 1: it's because of that, Because baby, that's to blame your child.

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Speaker 1: It's a perfect excuse for any career failure. I got

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Speaker 1: a kid. Now. Well that's because also, like I I know,

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Speaker 1: so early. But you can't really argue with that, right

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Speaker 1: because you don't have a baby. It's also, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a great excuse. I might just have a baby for

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Speaker 1: the excuses, right, except I have a baby, so I

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Speaker 1: can just be like, yeah, so what I gotta And

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Speaker 1: then I'm like I'm still here. I got too man,

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Speaker 1: so and then you're like one of them black. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into the show. Uh. So before we get into

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Speaker 1: the stories, Uh, we like to state our purpose up top.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that

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Speaker 1: are out there changing the world. Uh. That's why it's

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Speaker 1: the daily zeitgeist. We talk about politics, the president, uh,

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Speaker 1: the news. We also talk about movies and supermarket tabloid's. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we wanna start up top talking to you Dave

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Speaker 1: about that this is sort of a new Uh, segment

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Speaker 1: that that we've spontaneously developed. But we're asking our guests, like,

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Speaker 1: what is something some myth that they've noticed that keeps

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Speaker 1: coming up in movies that isn't actually true based on

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Speaker 1: their own personal experience. Okay, so I am in an

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Speaker 1: interracial couple. I am the product of an interracial couple.

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Speaker 1: And there's a genre of filmmaking doesn't really have a

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Speaker 1: the male character and the female characters parents are of

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Speaker 1: another race, And isn't it funny that they get together

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Speaker 1: and they don't understand each other. This happens in movies

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Speaker 1: like Get Out. Obviously they came out this year Guests

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Speaker 1: Who's Coming to Dinner, the remake with Bernie Mack and

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Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher called Guests Who Basically the movie My Big

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Speaker 1: Fat Greek Wedding is about this. There's just a ton

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Speaker 1: of these movies where there's no other joke. Besides, can

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Speaker 1: you believe that these people eat this wacky food? Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something, folks, it's not that difficult

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Speaker 1: many movies about how weird it is that white people

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Speaker 1: something that doesn't happen. Miles You're you're also, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm also product of the old race mixing as well.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's weird. It's very true. Like every time

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Speaker 1: Weird shit, like most recently my my my girlfriend, her

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Speaker 1: like you can tell because he's they're both like, you know,

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Speaker 1: put on a Thanksgiving Dan. This is the point where

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Speaker 1: the mother and the son need to have a serious argument,

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Speaker 1: right right, this is where all the gay rumors come out. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: and then you're problematic. Uncle says something vaguely racist. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into some stories, guys. Um. So first up,

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Speaker 1: we want to just talk about the constantly developing Weinstein story. Um.

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Speaker 1: And for once, the development is interesting and not just

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Speaker 1: like thoroughly defeating and depressing in an existential way, although yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is kind of that. It's just it's compelling because

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Speaker 1: it feels it feels like a whole world has opened

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Speaker 1: Ronan Pharaoh who wrote the original New Yorker article where

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Speaker 1: another New Yorker article about this huge sort of spy

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Speaker 1: for the past like five to ten years, sort of

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Speaker 1: trying to keep these accusations under wraps. Uh. There was

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Speaker 1: like a firm called Black Cube that specializes in sort

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Speaker 1: who like use false identities and like infiltrate. Like one

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Speaker 1: of them was a woman who pretended like she was

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Speaker 1: a feminist and met with the actress Rose McGowan. She

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Speaker 1: these meetings where she was like, Oh, you're so brave,

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Speaker 1: it's they call it black rain because it's like this black,

426
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: sticky rain because it's combining with all the irradiated stuff

427
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: that just got thrown up. Um. And yeah, but the

428
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: rain drops are so big that they actually like hurt

429
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: when they hit you. There's like fire tornadoes because everything's

430
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: on fire and there's tons of wind all over the place. Uh,

431
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: and you have a lot of people who are walking around,

432
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: you know, who survived, they didn't get immediately disintegrated, but there,

433
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, badly burnt and uh. You know the stuff

434
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: that these survivors describe as stuff that you would see

435
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: in the Walking Debt, It really like seems like that

436
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: sort of you know, horror. Yeah, when I was a kid,

437
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: my mom took me to the Hiroshima the Memorial Museum

438
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: where they have like the dome that still stands from

439
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: where the bomb was dropped directly above, and then inside

440
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: the museum they have cut out pieces of concrete that

441
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: have shadows burnt onto them. And they also the thing

442
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: that like really shook me was when you walk through

443
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: they have like these sort of wax figure depictions of

444
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: what like sort of the immediate aftermath look like in

445
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: the debris. And yet it's horrific. It's it's like, if

446
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: you weren't killed immediately in that first blast, the heat,

447
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: just the third degree burns that these people suffered, it's

448
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: mind blowing. And I think what's crazy to think is

449
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: like that's a bomb that when off, What if God

450
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: forbid anything like that happens again? The weaponry that is

451
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: out there now is far more advance than even this. Yeah,

452
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: it's it can only get worse, basically because people are

453
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: trying to kill people more efficiently, which is a terrifying thought.

454
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: When I think about a terminator too, I think about,

455
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, that's it looked cool to Jack's point, you like,

456
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: that's what you think about when you think about nuclear devastation.

457
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: But there are movies out there that have more realistic

458
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: depictions of what would happen. There's a great TV movie

459
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: from the early eighties called The Day After that was

460
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: directed by Nicholas Meyer, who also directed Start Trek to

461
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: the Wrath of Cohn, and that was a seminal movie

462
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: for a lot of people of that time because it

463
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: it imagined what it would actually be like if there

464
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: was a nuclear conflict. We don't have that for climate change.

465
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: When you think about climate change movies, you think about

466
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: The Day After Tomorrow and Water World, right, and and

467
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: the Core like the similar disaster porn films. But yeah,

468
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: that would change. When are we going to get a

469
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: thing where it's like, this is what it would actually happen,

470
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: What would actually happened if Malibu was underwater? Suddenly? You know,

471
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to that point where we can we

472
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: can dramatize disasters of that magnitude in a respectful and uh,

473
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, realistic way. So I think as long as

474
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: we don't have that and we're gonna we're gonna constantly

475
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: be on the precipice of destroying our planet. Well it's

476
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: it's interesting thing too. Even in the aftermath of the

477
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: atomic bombs, you dropped, a lot of the images weren't

478
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: being seen by Americans and to kind of give you

479
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: an idea of like what the environment was even like

480
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: in the U S. At the time, in ninety four,

481
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: there was a poll that asked Americans what should be

482
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: done with Japan and it found that thirtent of you know,

483
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: the U. S. Public was actually in favor of quote

484
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: killing off all Japanese people, which is fucking wild. And

485
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: to that after the fact, I think there was like

486
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: obviously they were very careful about not letting people see

487
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: like what these bombs were capable of, because I think

488
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: even at the time, the Allies like Churchill and Stunt,

489
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: they just thought what they were talking about was just

490
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: a bigger bomb, not quite understanding like what the what

491
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the actual effect of an atomic bomb was And it's

492
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: wild to think now after the fact that many of

493
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: the people who observed the ground zero and the effects

494
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: of the radiation, who are just like holy, like this

495
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: is a completely evil abomination of some kind of a weapon.

496
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Human beings actually have to make a terrible mistake before

497
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: they can realize it's a mistake. That's the that's the

498
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: most terrible part about history is that we will never

499
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: just avoid doing something wrong. We have to do it first.

500
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Like you have to lick a car battery to see

501
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: if it electrifies you or not. Car, that's a battery. Well, yeah,

502
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: I started off with a nine vote. Okay, Well you

503
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: know I got a little bit farther and my battery

504
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: looking game. Yeah, And a lot of times we like

505
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: to make that mistake twice just to see how that

506
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: gets right. And with at the moment what Trump is

507
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: in Asia, I think in South Korea right now, I'm

508
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: and again this this is something you absolutely hope we

509
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: do not repeat this kind of thing, right Yeah. And

510
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: this has been on my mind for because Trump has

511
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: been talking casually about this ship casual and insane amounts

512
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: of ship towards North Korea and also a defector from

513
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: North Korea has said that oh, if he did, you know,

514
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: launch a nuke at the United States, would definitely be

515
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: at l A because he's like a pop culture fiend

516
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: and like that, that would be like the biggest impact

517
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: in his mind. Yeah. I think it was like, yeah,

518
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: if he felt any threat to his regime, that's that's

519
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: like his end game. Yeah, he is to destroy Warner

520
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Brothers in Paramount and all the beautiful entertainment. But then

521
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: he's going to take over and make all the movies.

522
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: I hear. He's a great director. He's got he's got

523
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: a vision. I mean, his early stuff was a little derivative,

524
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: but he's come along. He's like Kevin Smith, he's grown. Yeah, exactly.

525
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: But I guess the um just you know, you always

526
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: hear things like, uh, duck and cover is like what

527
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: they used to tell kids to do, and that's insane

528
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: because obviously, uh, you're just gonna be disintegrated by nuclear bomb,

529
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: and that's actually not necessarily true. I don't know that

530
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: ducking and covering helps, but certainly I was surprised to

531
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: learn that wearing two pairs of clothes could help, because

532
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: that has never been a thing that anybody has ever said, uh,

533
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you know the woman we talked to, Uh, she was

534
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: pointing at the plane in the sky, the and Nola

535
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: Gay when the bomb exploded. And because her arm was

536
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: up like that, the underside of her arm is like

537
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: the most burnt part of her body. It's like still

538
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: uh to this day, it's like got that like kind

539
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: of polished, really smoothed look, because she had a really

540
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: bad burn on the under side of her arm. Um

541
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of it is weirdly like covering

542
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: your skin from the initial explosion. Um. Her father was,

543
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: like guess, in a fishing sort of shack and he

544
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: had a big cement ice box that was in there,

545
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: like a basically a refrigerator, and when he saw the

546
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: bomb falling, he jumped inside his ice box and that

547
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: is what saved his life. Uh So again, that is

548
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: one of the most laughed at scenes in the history

549
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: of cinema. Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal

550
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: Skull Indiana Jones jumps inside a leadline refriger leadline refrigerator

551
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: and like the refrigerator is like tossed fifty miles away

552
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: by the nuclear explosion. He's fine. I don't know that

553
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: that is exactly accurate, but the idea that you could

554
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: jump inside an ice box and uh survive a nuclear

555
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: explosion again, a nuclear explosion of the size that happened

556
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: back in the forties, but still it is you know,

557
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you know, even if there they are bigger,

558
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: and I think most nuclear bombs are calculated and like,

559
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: so this would be like ten hiroshimas or Hiroshima's uh

560
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: is it pronounced Hiroshima? Well, if you're Japanese, it's Hiroshima Hiroshima. Yeah,

561
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: good he Well. The one thing that kind of makes

562
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: it very bizarrely personal to me is so during the

563
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: World War because my my mom's from Japan and she

564
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: was born but prior to that, her her parents they

565
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: lived in Tokyo, but because of all the fire like

566
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: all the bombings and fire bombs in Tokyo, they had

567
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: to flee to Nigata, where my grandfather had some family

568
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: that would take them in. And nigot that was actually

569
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be one of the original targets of the

570
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: a bomb um but because of weather, the targets switched

571
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: and like the day before the the like mayor had

572
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: like told him like, look at that's very possible that

573
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: like we're gonna be hit with a bomb. So they

574
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: had an evacuation order and my grandparents they literally they

575
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: played their last hand going to Nigata. So they're like,

576
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: we don't even know where we're gonna go. So they're

577
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: just like, look if we're gonna go, like, well, like

578
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: this is it and just due to weather and you know,

579
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: in a very bitter sweet turn of events, it ended

580
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: up being Nagasaki that was actually bonded. So it's it's

581
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: wild to think that, Yeah, just the history it can

582
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: can affect people in so many ways, and just even

583
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: something like visibility that day can can just completely alter

584
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: literally the cloud uh like cover which is you know,

585
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: whether is the most random thing in the universe. Based

586
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: on my favorite scientific documentary, The Butterfly Effect featuring Ashton

587
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: kut Uh. Wow, that's to Ashton Kutcher mentioned, we're not

588
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: being paid by CZER by the way, speak for yourself. Um,

589
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, they made like three passes over the city

590
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: that was their primary target and because it was like

591
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: more military and less residential before they eventually moved on

592
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: to Nagasaki. Well net they uses like a port city

593
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: to get people from Japan to the mainland of Asia.

594
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: So that was sort of like the reason they targeted

595
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: that town. But it's also interesting thing like the influence

596
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: that the obomba has even had on like anime and

597
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 1: manga too. There's like a of just reading this Island

598
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: nine article about it, and it's very true, Like you

599
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: talk about the sort of the kinds of things we

600
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: see like from Astro Boy, who's like a misuse of technology,

601
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: or like orphaned kids from like the or mutants like

602
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: from Grave of the Fireflies. It affects the zeitgeist in

603
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: many many ways. Godzilla, Kira, it's all kind of about

604
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: those the effects of World War two. It's it's really

605
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: interesting how that it's such a seminal moment in Japanese

606
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: culture and something that in America we almost never think about. Yeah, well,

607
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean and it was interesting. We were really watching

608
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: a video of like how people go out to the

609
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: desert was like White Sands or whatever where one of

610
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: the first atomic bomb tests going, and like people go

611
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: there to be like wow, this is when we like

612
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: we like the world changed. And that's the view from

613
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: the American side is you know, this ended the war

614
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: and like this is a crazy thing where it's like

615
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: in Japan. I mean, like you know, August six and

616
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: the nine, it's still you have moments of silence, and

617
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: it's again if everyone's relationship to this is very, very

618
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: different and runs the entire gamut. Yeah. The way it

619
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: affected American culture that has sort of been erased from

620
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: history is that America was like crazy about nuclear explosions.

621
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: You could in the fifties and sixties go out to

622
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and there would be like nuclear explosions on

623
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: the horizon. They had a beauty pageant that was like

624
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: miss a Bomb, and like they basically through parties watching

625
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: these nuclear tests happened from a distance. Um, like you

626
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: bought tickets just to go see a rushroom cloud off

627
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: in the distance exactly. Um. But yeah, they were testing

628
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs like crazy, and it was terrible for the environment. Uh.

629
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: One one sort of thing that's not as bad as

630
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: it is in the popular imagination is that the radiation

631
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: tends to go down after a couple of days. It's

632
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: not like permanently, you know, uninhabitable, which is tends to

633
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: be how people think of it. So hopefully that was Yeah,

634
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm really glad I had a kid five days ago.

635
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have thought about that before. I just

636
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: double up on that onesie, yeah, exact, bleak. All right,

637
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: we are going to take a quick break and we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back after this and we're back. Um, so

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna run through a handful of things that

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Speaker 1: are happening right now. Start off with Papa John. Uh

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Speaker 1: fuck Papa John. Well, I mean, yeah, my take on

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Speaker 1: things not because they're pizza shitty, but because the pizza. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's trash. Their pizza tastes like you have sprinkled like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of sugar over it. It tastes, tastes like

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Speaker 1: diabetic shot. It's like cardboard dildos in pizza form. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So well, yeah they're in the news because basically after

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Speaker 1: Papa John has tried to blame his like huge stock

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Speaker 1: price tumble on the NFL protests, because yeah, that that's

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Speaker 1: what's making your pizza to tastes like shit. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: alt right was like embracing Papa John's were like, well,

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Speaker 1: we're like this is our new pizza, and then to

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Speaker 1: come out and be like wha, we are not the

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Speaker 1: official pizza the alt right, and we reject racism and

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Speaker 1: discrimination all forms. It's just funny that you have to

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Speaker 1: say ship like the companies have to say ship like that.

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Speaker 1: And also I feel really bad for Celesque Pizza because

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Speaker 1: they've lost the alt right to Papa John's now because

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Speaker 1: they love frozen pizzas and that. Yeah, that that's the

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Speaker 1: new They can throw them on the pile of other

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Speaker 1: white nationalist brands like New Balance on Fred Perry, polo

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Speaker 1: shirts and uh what else, Wendy's because someone tweeted a

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Speaker 1: Pepper the frog meme. So yeah, yeah, but those brands

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Speaker 1: did nothing other than happened to get worn or used

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Speaker 1: by the white nationalists. Papa John uh is uh shitty

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Speaker 1: dude who did blame his uh loss in stock value

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Speaker 1: on activism. Uh so fuck Papa John. Uh gun control,

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Speaker 1: Uh just real quick. Trump has come out with a

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Speaker 1: couple of arguments in the aftermath of the Texas church shooting.

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Speaker 1: He said, uh, it's a mental health issue. He said,

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Speaker 1: uh that gun control would have caused hundreds of more deaths. Um,

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Speaker 1: so just real quick taking those in order the idea

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Speaker 1: that it's a mental health issue. Uh, why is America

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Speaker 1: the place with the vast majority of the mass shootings. Uh,

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Speaker 1: does America have worse mental health than other countries? No? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know they're crazy people everywhere, but they do have

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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the ratio of mass

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Speaker 1: shootings to other countries and then amount of guns to

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Speaker 1: other countries, they basically line up. So uh, that is

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Speaker 1: just how logic would dictate the sort of correlation going there.

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Speaker 1: Although not to say that that we could be spending

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Speaker 1: a little bit more on mental health than this, that

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Speaker 1: it's it's connected, but I would we could point out

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Speaker 1: that the Republican President Ronald Reagan cut quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of funding to public mental institutions during his presidency, which

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Speaker 1: has contributed greatly to our homelessness problem, especially in this city.

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Speaker 1: Remember as a kid, when I was seven years old,

687
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Speaker 1: I asked my dad, like I had that existential question

688
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Speaker 1: as a kids, like why is there homeless people? And

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Speaker 1: he literally said Ronald Reagan. And I didn't get it

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Speaker 1: till like I got to college. There you go. So

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Speaker 1: that's what way to explain that to me? That um,

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Speaker 1: and then his argument that gun control would have caused

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Speaker 1: hundreds of deaths assumes that gun control only prevents bad

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Speaker 1: people from getting guns, and not because His argument was like,

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Speaker 1: if there's a same vetting, then you're a good guy

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Speaker 1: with a gun wouldn't have been able to get his

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Speaker 1: gun to fight the bad guy. But the there's no

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Speaker 1: gun control argument that says keep guns out of the

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Speaker 1: hands of good guys or responsible gun owners, like people

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Speaker 1: in England, uh have like responsible hunters have guns, and

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Speaker 1: that's okay, But England has tons of restrictions on gun

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Speaker 1: ownership and so uh, most of the cops don't even

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Speaker 1: have guns, right, and it's not like the bad guys

704
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Speaker 1: there are able to get guns on the black market

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Speaker 1: and just shoot all the cops. Uh. Now, the argument

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Speaker 1: from gun rights activists would be, well, America has just

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Speaker 1: way more guns out there right there. There's just tons

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Speaker 1: of guns. So if you create a law legislating, you know,

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Speaker 1: the ability to purchase air fifteens, then you're essentially taking

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Speaker 1: the air fifteen out of the hand of the good guy,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the bad guys still gonna try and

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Speaker 1: buy an Air fifteen on the black market. I think

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Speaker 1: in this specific shooting, UH, both the bad guy and

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Speaker 1: the good guy with a gun head air fifteen. So

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Speaker 1: that would be their argument there. I'm sure that would

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Speaker 1: be Trump's argument there. Uh. You know, I we we've

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Speaker 1: talked in the past about how Australia solved this there

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Speaker 1: there was a mass shooting there. They not only created legislation,

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Speaker 1: but they also had a huge gun buy back, uh.

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Speaker 1: And by incentivizing both good guys and bad guys to

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Speaker 1: give back their guns. Uh, they took a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guns out of circulation and haven't had a mass shooting since. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We've tried gun buy backs in the United States, but

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't work without pairing it with the legislation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Australia had. They had the buy

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Speaker 1: back plus stricter gun laws. And obviously we can't uh

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Speaker 1: get stricter legislation with the n r A being as

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Speaker 1: powerful as uh they are currently. And you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into why the n r A is that powerful,

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Speaker 1: but just in general, you know, when there's a advocacy group,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they if then r A was actually

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Speaker 1: advocating for responsible gun ownership, UH, they would not want

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Speaker 1: to oppose this sort of thing. They would want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, make laws that made it possible for responsible

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Speaker 1: gun owners to be the only ones who had guns.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't seem to be how they respond to

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Speaker 1: situations like this. And we're going to get into this

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Speaker 1: a little later this week about how the n r

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Speaker 1: A operates and how the n r A got to

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Speaker 1: be this hugely influential thing. But if it is a

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Speaker 1: mental health issue, I respectfully request an actual solution to

742
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Speaker 1: that problem as opposed to know it's a mental health problem,

743
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Speaker 1: but we will not moving on. Yeah, we're not gonna

744
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Speaker 1: propose any legislation to fix it. It's just that it's

745
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Speaker 1: not a gun issue. Yeah, and speaking moving on Carter page,

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Speaker 1: he recently uh testified uh and made the Steel dossier

747
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: look pretty good. Yeah he Uh. He had the transcript

748
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Speaker 1: of his testimony came out and it's a doozy. We'll

749
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: probably get into that in more depth because it reads

750
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: like a bizarro Cohen Brother script. So he is a

751
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: Cohen Brother character, like the way they get pathetic nous,

752
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: like pitch perfect. Yeah, I mean, like this dude can't

753
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: stop going on MSNBC and getting like gotcha, So it's unbelievable.

754
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: Like yeah again, Kilia did it again. Uh. Syria has

755
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: signed the Climate Accord. Uh, so the last hold out

756
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: besides the United States has signed the Paris Climate Accord. Uh.

757
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Now is just the United States, uh, and versus the

758
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Speaker 1: world yep, Syria, betrolling man. That's the only reason why

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00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: they signed it, is like we're gonna get the United States.

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00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna sign this thing as a joke. Uh. And

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00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: by the way, the Republican tax plan removes the tax

762
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: break for electric cars. Uh. Meanwhile, Shanghai and uh, you know,

763
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Speaker 1: China has recently announced that they're going to phase out

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00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: the internal combustion engine. So uh, two you know, powers

765
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: going in opposite directions on that one. Uh, We'll see

766
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: which one is better for the world. Can't even I

767
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: can't even believe that it's we're we're We used to

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Speaker 1: just be in the company of Syria, and that was

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00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: bad enough, Like you're the two countries that aren't like

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Speaker 1: working with like recognizing climate change, and now it's just us.

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00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: We are a third world country, Let's be honest. Yeah,

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00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: we're a third world country with really nice consumer goods. Yeah.

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00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: And finally, Rick Flair has come out and revealed that

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Speaker 1: he's slept with ten thousand women. What whoa I would

775
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Speaker 1: like to see the reporting the proof. Does he have

776
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: a does he have a book? Where he's he's got

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Speaker 1: all the names. Does he have hash marks on his

778
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: bed posts? What is he done to prove that he

779
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: slept with ten thousand women? I know he's a six

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00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: team time world heavyweight champion because I can watch the match.

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00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Is I can't watch that? Not that I would want to,

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00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: but I mean, how can you prove a statement like that?

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Speaker 1: I could say that right now I slept with ten

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Speaker 1: thousand and one women. That's amazing. I know. But you've

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Speaker 1: met him, you do you think does he strike you

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Speaker 1: as a man who like even maybe maybe he slept

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Speaker 1: with like five women. He's definitely a player. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: also is well known within the professional wrestling community for

789
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: having a very large penis. Oh wait, but how did

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Speaker 1: Will chamber did Will Chamberlain ever have proof for his

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Speaker 1: over seats? Did you ever ever, certainly not know? How

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Speaker 1: do we have ten thousand receipts? I don't even keep

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Speaker 1: the receipts to do my taxes. If anything, this just

794
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Speaker 1: makes Will Chamberlain's claim seem ridiculous because Chamberlain claimed twenty thousand,

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Speaker 1: and like when you think, like ten thousand seems like

796
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: so crazy, and then he's like, yeah, I double that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that would mean you'd have to have sex with like

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Speaker 1: three women every day of the year for like seventeen

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Speaker 1: years straight or something like that. It's probably like days

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Speaker 1: where it's a really heavy flow and some days where

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Speaker 1: it's a light flow. Right, I got twenty banged out

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Speaker 1: twenty five, but yesterday was only four. Yeah, let me

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Speaker 1: just do someth divided by three sixty five, that would

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Speaker 1: mean you would have to have sex with one person

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Speaker 1: every day for fifty four point seven nine years. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long did he live to Yes, Well, again,

807
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Speaker 1: he probably had sex with two or three ladies at

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Speaker 1: a time every day, like even on Christmas, even on

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Speaker 1: New Year's, even on thanksfinitely on Christmas and New Year's.

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Speaker 1: You gotta let that thing cool off for a while,

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Speaker 1: you know. After a while he was like, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: so sorry about this. I just can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Never mind this horrible crotch rash that I have. But

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Speaker 1: they call me the nature boy. Dave, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Uh, this is a blast. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: thank you newborn son. Where can people follow you on

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Speaker 1: the internet? I am at Dave underscore shilling on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: not at day of shilling. There isn't at Dave shilling.

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Speaker 1: and I'm actually based on that evidence, I'm gonna try

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Speaker 1: crazy ship that we've been saying. We show our sources,

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