1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: the truth lives here back twelve Apostles Apostles. The n 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: C Double A transfer rule has been cemented and now 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: players can no longer be blocked by places like the 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: University of Washington Okla Homa from being immediately eligible even 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: when they transferred in conference. This is a great, great thing. 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Of the dead period is ending for college sports as 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: it relates to the coronavirus on May thirty one. So 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: one kids can get who haven't signed like j T 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: to him, allowed can go on his recruiting visits. UM 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: coaches will be out and about that can hold camps, 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: all those things. Arizona men's and women's basketball is in 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: the news, got a new coach and a current coach 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: is doing big things. The Pack twelve networks has a surplus. 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? On Larry Scott's way out and 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: he's like, yo, yo, I told you, I was, I was, 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I was on the right path and you guys party, 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: yeah right uh. And USC is escaping n C Double 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: A penalties even though their assistant coaches are not I'm 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: George Rice Stir. He's Ralph Amaston and this is the 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles, So Ralph um as we record again. 23 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: So we'd like to tell people the truth, the things 24 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: that really go on around here. So we're recording the podcast, 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and we started the podcast. We got about good five 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: seven seven minutes in and I go a Ralph, Ralph, Ralph, 27 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and he's like, what you forgot to hit record, didn't you? 28 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how he knew this, maybe but maybe 29 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: we're like been working together so long. After He's like, 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: I can tell the timber in your voice when you 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: screw some uth up, and he knew I screwed up. 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: So I were redoing re recording part of a podcast 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: that we already recorded. Good job, Good job, George, good job, 34 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: welcome back. We do we do another show, but I 35 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: took a couple of weeks off and this is our 36 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: first Pack twelve Apostles show in like twenty days. And 37 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: I had a lot of people reach out to me 38 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: and ask if since I moved to North Carolina, if 39 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: we're still going to keep up the Pack twelve Apostles podcast. 40 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: This was the most important thing to them, and so 41 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: shout out to them. Yes, we are keeping it going, 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: and it's really cool that people listen to this show, 43 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Like I'll never get over the fact that uh that 44 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: um that we got a bunch of people that that 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: that have lashed onto this that enjoy Pack twelve, this 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: rush and pactwellth culture and patrol sports sports sports sports 47 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: almost got that word m Yeah, it's like the Charlotte 48 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Charlotte accident, trying to trying to creep in. Yeah, you know, 49 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: you know they love a pact. Wheel spouts. Ralph has 50 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: already become a Southerner already, guys that he belongs to 51 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: the streets. Clearly, we've we we've lost him already. Yeah, 52 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: y'all got any more of that pactwel Network YouTube TV. 53 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Al Right, so you can tell people how you moved 54 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: into the money pit. So Ralph moved to from Phoenix, Arizona, 55 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Pactwealth Country all the way. He moved three whole time 56 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: zones and he bought a house basically sight unseen, and 57 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: he got the money pit with Who's Who's in the 58 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: money money Pit? Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, I think I 59 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: have that big I'll tell you this, I'm not seeing 60 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: the money pit. And I don't think I'll be watching 61 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: it because I am living it right now. Um, do 62 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: you you have to watch it? You you have to 63 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: watch it. It's from the nineteen six Yeah, it's got 64 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, Shelley Long, Yeah, Phil phil Bosco and a 65 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: couple of other people. Oh oh and Joe men Mantegna 66 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: are in it. Are in it? Yeah? You don't think 67 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: I'll just be upset the whole time. So yeah, I 68 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: could use some of that Paxwell's surplus money to to 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: I just wrote a five thousand dollar check to the 70 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: pool guy. We need a brand new pump brand. They 71 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: put a pump and a filter for an above ground 72 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: pool on a below ground pool. Turn the motor on 73 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: it bleue. So uh, I had to drop five thousand 74 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: dollars too. How did it work? It? First because they 75 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: clearly or do you think it wasn't working in the 76 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: pool was green? And then they were like, oh, we're 77 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: getting ready to sell the sell the house, so we 78 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: gotta put pump on it. Yeah. And the neighbor I 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: met the neighbors on all sides. Everybody's super friend. Um. 80 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: I got like a three neighbors near me that are 81 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: all in their late seventies, all retirees, all built their 82 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: homes in the mid nineteen seventies. And then this home, 83 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: which was owned by a family who was actually previously 84 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: renting it, they bought the home and then they flipped 85 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: it and made a mint um. We we definitely helped 86 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: that family come up. And I mean they didn't even 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: clear the house out. So we we drove six days. 88 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I drove six days here with three kids in the car, 89 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: showed up and the house was full of their stuff. 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: And I had to make a decision right then and there. 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: Do I pay for a hotel for a few days 92 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: while they come back and collect all their stuff, delaying 93 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: the closing of the home and possibly causing us to 94 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: have to re submit a bunch of documents. Or do 95 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: I just sign on the dotted line and clear the 96 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: house out myself. So I decided to sign on the 97 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: dotted line. I've been clearing their stuff out for days. 98 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Finally unpacked all the pods and moved our stuff in. 99 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: We've had to pay thousands of dollars to a plumber 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: because they were on well water and they didn't put 101 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: a filter in, so they were drinking water with lead 102 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: in it, and the well was pumping sediment into the 103 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: toilet pipes and sink pipes, so there's like leaves and 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: sand in all all the sinks and toilets. We had 105 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: to get those replaced. Um they got I mean they 106 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: got water issues, wall issues, that the fact that they 107 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: were even like living here is hilarious. Had to pay 108 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: six fifty dollars just to get it deep clean, just 109 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: to be able to sleep on the floor before where 110 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: our stuff arrived, um in the pods. And so it's 111 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: been an experience for sure. This was Larry Scott run 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: household before we got on the job. And uh yeah, 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a work in progress and I 114 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: look forward to doing this podcast from this place. Hopefully 115 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: we can get the internet to work. We're gonna keep 116 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: doing this podcast. I love doing this podcast. And um yeah, yeah, 117 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: we'll keep you updated on the progress of this house 118 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: as we as we get going. Dude, it's been an 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: adventure just hearing it. You know, when you call somebody 120 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: and you're like yo, and you know it's gonna be 121 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: a great story. This is what we've been getting from 122 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: a Ralph. You're you're just like, oh, dude, yes, this 123 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: will be absolutely amazing. Um. So the n C Double A, 124 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: it has finally passed the transfer a rule. So Colton 125 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: yank Off, the the other kid, um, oh what's his name? 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: His brother plays a cow? Yeah, ethan transferring. They both 127 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: went to u C l A. Washington was like, no, 128 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: where you're not being immediately eligible? How dare you kid 129 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: want to leave us even though you're not our starting 130 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: quarterback because we got to compete against you. And even 131 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: though I'm making five minute, three five million dollars, I can't. 132 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: I can't handle one transfer kid, and you have Washington 133 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: people like buying all into it. Oklahoma people buying all 134 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: into it. But now the n C Double A, even 135 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: though it's like ten years too late, finally did something 136 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: right in this way. Yes, yes, I agree. Um, although 137 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: I think both you and I don't like it, we 138 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: like that it exists. We hope it does not get 139 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: used too frequently. I don't know why we're why we're 140 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: hoping that we've already seen with the transfer portal that 141 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: that's already happening. Or maybe the fact that, like I 142 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: like the one time transfer rule because okay, first thing 143 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: is kids sometimes they go to the wrong school right, 144 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: and then they they'll go to the wrong school and 145 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: then they'll figure it out. They will figure it out 146 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: and be like, Yo, I don't fit here. I'm not 147 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna play here. Maybe I'm not as good as I 148 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: thought I was, or the situation was different. Uh, the 149 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: coaches that may have like, I think that sometimes coaches 150 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: lie or exaggerate eight in recruiting. I think that this 151 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: place times. Yes, I think that this puts an onus 152 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: on the coach to be one hundred about everything. So 153 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I like it, but I do 154 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: think that there are some unintended consequences from it. I 155 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: think I keep hearing the phrase transfer culture um entitlement 156 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: culture gen Z. Kids don't know how to stick things 157 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: out or work hard, and they expect things handed to them. 158 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: Let's be very very very very crystal clear. Transfer culture 159 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: was created by the transfer culture of assistant coaches young 160 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: from school to school. Because every single one of these 161 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: coaches will say out loud, don't commit to the coach, 162 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: commit to the school, don't make a four year decision, 163 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: make a fourty year decisions. They say these things, but 164 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: they're all platitudes and they don't actually mean them, and 165 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: the reason that you know that they don't actually mean 166 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: those things is the school's shall out ridiculous amount of 167 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: money for these assistant coaches who are good recruiters because 168 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: they know the difference difference between having good players and 169 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: having not as good players. Are the assistant coaches that 170 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: you surround your head coach with. Period that that people 171 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: get hired based on their ability to recruit, their ability 172 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: to sell you, their ability to convince you, and then 173 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: those assistant coaches becoming high demand and they demand a 174 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: higher price everywhere they go. A guy like Dante Williams 175 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: who shout out to Dante who has me blocked on Twitter? 176 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: You can unblock me if you want to, Dante Williams, 177 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm I don't bite um, and I'm not gonna be 178 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: biting in this phrase. But a guy like Dante Williams 179 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: who went from San Jose State to University of Arizona 180 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: to Nebraska, UM, Nebraska to Oregon to USC and all 181 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: of those school rules right, and all of those schools 182 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: wanted him for a very specific reason, and all of 183 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: those schools got results. But do you expect the kids 184 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: that he brought to Nebraska to not maybe consider following 185 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: him to Oregon or the kids that he brought to 186 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: Oregon can not consider following him to Southern California if 187 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: they're old. If he's ultimately the reason that they made 188 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: that commitments and that school, you created transfer culture. You 189 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: created transfer culture, So you can't bitch about it. You 190 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: just can't. Fans have every right to bitch about transfer culture, 191 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: but they have to understand that their schools are contributing 192 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: to it through designing a system in which you financially 193 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: reward people for their ability to be salesman. Yep, dude, 194 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: that that is when these coaches can bounce from year 195 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: to you the kids follow. Yeah. That That's a great 196 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: point that I think a lot of people ignore, which 197 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: is they want to put the response possibility solely on 198 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: the student athletes, when in reality, the coaches are the 199 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: one who did it. Like the coaches are the ones 200 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: who don't stay. They chase the money that and mind you, 201 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm not begrudging them for for doing that, because we 202 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: are all trying to um, you know, make the most money, 203 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: have the best opportunity, fulfill our goals, all of those things, 204 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: and that may mean moving around a little bit, particularly 205 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: in the coaching profession because you don't know where your 206 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: opportunity is gonna come from. Like you may be a 207 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: grad assistant at the University of you know, at Washington State, 208 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, because of who coaches there, 209 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Miami offers you the wide receiver job, and that's your 210 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: best or only offer. You're gonna leave it, go to 211 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: Miami and then your next and then you're in Miami 212 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: for two or three years, and then uh, Montana State 213 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: offers you the head coaching job. You're going to Montana State. Problem, 214 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I I get it. 215 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: But the idea that the players are the ones that 216 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: are you know, entitled, they don't want to stick it out. 217 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Now it's the coaches and that started it. And they're 218 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: making good money being well compensated, particularly in the Power five. 219 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't I don't mind it. I 220 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: don't mind the kids leading. And there's a second way. 221 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: But there is a second way that these coaches are 222 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: contributing to transfer culture because George, what happens when a 223 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: coach arrives at the school sees a crop of kids 224 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: that he didn't recruit. Oh, he gets them, he gets 225 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: he forces them out like that's the dirty, liveliest amongst 226 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: college football is that in college sports in general, they 227 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: will show up to your They're like, hey, hey, Ralph, 228 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: come let me, let me let me howl at you. Hey, 229 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: what's up, coach? You know, I'm happy that you're here, 230 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: happy to see you. And he's like, okay, so look listen, 231 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a coach who's gonna be real, which 232 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a looky yeah I And I'm gonna tell 233 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: you the truth. You're not gonna play here, Ralph. You're 234 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: just not. I'm sorry, you know so. But I want 235 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: to support you and your dreams and your desire to 236 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: play college football. So you can stay here if you want. 237 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: If you still want to be at the University of 238 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles, you can stay. But if you 239 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: actually want to play, then you need to look for 240 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: somewhere else to play. And you know what I can 241 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: do for you even more because because I think you're 242 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: a great person, I want to help you is I'll 243 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: help you find a place to go. How about that? 244 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: How does that sound right? And then what happens the 245 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: player goes on Twitter and they pull they whip out 246 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: the notes app and they post. After much prayer and 247 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: consideration with my family, I have decided to enter my 248 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: name into the transfer portal and find the right it 249 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: for me. Thank you to the University of Pack twelve 250 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: apostles Um for everything, and thank you to the coaches 251 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: because they're not gonna be burn those bridges on the 252 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: way out the door. And everyone know know when those 253 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: coaches are gonna come back around. So I want to 254 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: thank the coaches for giving me this this opportunity. But 255 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: I think it's best that I enter my name in 256 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: the transporportal at this time. And what's the first thing 257 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: that happens in there? Mentions scared to compete? You're scared 258 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: to compete, And it's like, and if people don't believe 259 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: that this is actually what happens, like, trust me when 260 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: I say that. I listened to a PAC twelve position 261 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: coach come in at a school a few years ago 262 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: and say I need to get these garbage players out 263 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: of here. And then after he had actually after one 264 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: player two players medically retired that we're in the position 265 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: group that he coached, He's like, now I just gotta 266 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: work on this third. I gotta get these fat short 267 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: guys is out of here, and it was like, man, 268 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: you're an idiot, Like you don't think I'm gonna rap 269 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: you out? Do you know? Oh no, no, no no, no, no, 270 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: let's not do Do you know who I am? But 271 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna talk that informally, you're gonna disrespect 272 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: these kids who I'm an ideal logue about this one thing. 273 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: If you are a coach, I think I've said this 274 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: on the podcast before. If you're a coach who is 275 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: getting paid by school, and you you accept a position 276 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: with that school, and you are a player who commits 277 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: to play within an n C double a system, that 278 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: you are trading your talent and skill set for an education, 279 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: room and board, but you're not actually being compensated in 280 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: the way that the coaches being compensated. If you commit 281 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: to a school to be an amateur, there where the 282 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: name of the school on your chest, the number on 283 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: your back, and the school colors. And let's say that 284 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: it's um cow let's say this University of California. Yeah, you, 285 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: as a player are more of a cowbeart than that 286 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: coach will ever be. In fact, that coach is not 287 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: their unemployee. You chose they take a paycheck. So when 288 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: you have guys come in who take a paycheck and 289 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: they they disrespect the idea that these other players came 290 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: in and chose to be part of that system. Right, 291 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean respect for you none whatsoever. I think 292 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: you should respect the fact that people made that that choice. 293 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: And some of these coaches are like borderline half wits 294 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to the idea that they can't grasp 295 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: that the world is very, very small and that people 296 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: talk like offensive linemen all go to offensive lineman camps. 297 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: Wide receivers go to wide receiver camps, quarterbacks go to 298 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: quarterback camps. And and then these former players, former high 299 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: school players that are in college now come back and 300 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: they help instruct these camps, and they say, yo, how 301 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: are things at University of Pack twelve Apostles? And the 302 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: players and their parents are gonna be talking to the 303 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: parents on the sideline. And you can never believe these coaches. 304 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: They're full of ship. They lie. They're trying to push 305 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: me out right now. They're trying to be bringing somebody 306 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: to replace me, or they told me I was the guy, 307 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: and then they brought somebody in. There was a graduate 308 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: transfer me and I don't believe anything they say, like, oh, 309 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: they're recruiting my kid right now. Yeah, We'll look for 310 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: them to say these three or four things. Oh and 311 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: as soon as they say and then that, uh, and 312 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: that's just it and I'm right right exactly. And then 313 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: you have fans wonder, We're like, whoa, why can't my 314 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: school get a grasp on recruiting this certain area. It's 315 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: because that certain area is talking to each other. They 316 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: know what's up. And so this whole thing drives me nuts, 317 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: and people get upset at transfer culture. I personally also 318 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: do not like transfer culture and would love to see 319 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: players stick around, fight it out, play when they're more 320 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: busyically ready to do so. Um, but that's just not 321 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: how things are working, and the actual system is driving 322 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: people into it. And then you have all these coaches 323 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: speak with disdain about transfer culture while they have they're 324 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: they're clicking refresh on the portal every single day to 325 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: see if they can bring in somebody who's are already 326 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: graduated from somewhere else to come in and take the 327 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: place of the players who have been committed there for 328 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: three or four years. Well, how about how this is 329 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: going to impact the the numbers and the high school recruits, 330 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: because high school recruiting, there's it used to only be 331 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: like you know that you get your class at twenty 332 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: five up to twenty five each year scholarships, But transfers 333 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: count in those twenty five at least they do for 334 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: right now and for this upcoming year, because they've already 335 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: passed a deadline to pass new um to a pass 336 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: new quote unquote laws if you will, new regulations for 337 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: the n C double a um that you're gonna have, 338 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: Like how are all these kids who are in the 339 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: portal supposed to get out? And then there's the idea 340 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: that all right, all these kids are in the portal, 341 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: so now hey, how did they get out? And then 342 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: be less high school kids are going to get scholarships 343 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: because people are transferring, because coaches are gonna be saving 344 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: scholarships for the transfers. It's scared. It's scary. I know 345 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: a former four star defensive back who is still in 346 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: the portal and has been there for months and doesn't 347 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: have any bites yet. I know I know a former 348 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: three star quarterback. They are both Pack twelve players, by 349 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: the way, who was in the portal right now and 350 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: still uncommitted. And it's been a lot longer than I'm 351 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: used to seeing quarterbacks being the portal, and this is 352 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: somebody who has started a game. That means that he's 353 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: not Does that mean he's looking for offers that are 354 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: better than what he that are He's looking for different 355 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: offers than what he's getting. So do you think that 356 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: that's the answer, or do you think he's not getting 357 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: any offers? I think that that. I think that it's 358 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: a situation where you you you come in and you 359 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: have the coaches tell you like, hey, your third or 360 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: fourth on the depth chart, you're not gonna play here. 361 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, we'll honor your scholarship if you want to 362 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: stick around. It's everything that you said it was, uh, 363 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: And then they convince them that, hey, you're probably if 364 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: you want to play, if playing is your priority, then 365 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: you're probably best looking elsewhere. And that's just me being 366 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: honest with you. But they're not. Well, Here's that they're not. 367 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: Is that it's not their best option? Yeah? But is it? 368 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Your best option is to get in the port have 369 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: a destination, or at least know that somebody wants you 370 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: before you hop in the portal. Because so many people 371 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: I think, hop in prematurely because they think that they 372 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: have more value to other people in their minds then 373 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: what other people actually value them as. Because until this 374 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: last year, UH schools had not had departments literally and 375 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: staff dedicated to college recruiting because they had that they 376 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: dedicate part of their staff to high school recruiting. But 377 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: now you have to dedicate somebody where where they do 378 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, which is there's pro personnel and then 379 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: there's college personnel, so they do scouting for both. So 380 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: now you're gonna have to have somebody to scout college 381 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: players to see. Oh wait, hold up, this dude might 382 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: might might be coming into portal. We'll take him if 383 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: he want, and then you're gonna have tampering all this 384 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: that it could be a mess, dude, Oh for sure. 385 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Note that there's definitely we are definitely as close to 386 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: the possibility of recruiting people on other teams as we 387 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: have ever been. I mean, it's it's it already happens, 388 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: and it already has happened, um for a long time. 389 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: But where we are currently in a position where assistant 390 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: coaches are going to see that part of their ability 391 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: to come up. Part of their ability to catch a 392 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: paycheck is to get as many good players as possible. 393 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: And if you have a prior relationship with somebody that 394 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: you recruited who is at a different school and you 395 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: now know that in that you can transfer once without penalty. 396 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: You could you could send a text message to a 397 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: friend of a friend or directly with that parents saying like, hey, 398 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: there's opportunity here if your kids looking yeah, and that 399 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: is recruiting, yeah and that. But then this goes to 400 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: what's going on to So you're gonna have July one, name, 401 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: image and likeness legislation start to kick in in the 402 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: state of Florida. The Senate hasn't kicked down any legislation 403 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: as it relates to this where the n C double 404 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: A went in front of him, I got a chance 405 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: to testify in front of the Senate for they still 406 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: haven't gotten anything back yet. So the wid WIA West 407 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: arts on in on July one, which is which means 408 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: all the other conferences, not even just the conference because 409 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: the SEC is gonna be at a disadvantage because Florida 410 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: is gonna have a leg up. Some of these other 411 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: bills start in start this year. Too. Some of them 412 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: start January one. So this is a big deal, dude, 413 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: And the Senate has to get something done. Because if 414 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: you're a kid and you're and you're like, hold up, 415 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: hold up. Either I can go to Miami, Florida, u CEF, 416 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: even Um South Florida, any of these schools, or I 417 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: can go to like Tennessee, Old miss Um, Auburn. But 418 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: I can go there and make money. Where the hell 419 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: am I going? Like this is a no waiter, buddy, 420 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: And you brought up another thing that I think it's important. 421 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it ever since you you were 422 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: talking about it just a few minutes ago, which is 423 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: that people aren't jumping into the transfer portal for the 424 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: right reasons. They're doing it out of emotion. And we 425 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: know that to be true or not just speculating, because 426 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: look what happened when University of Arizona fired Kevin Sumlin. 427 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: The entire receiving corps jumped into the portal and Jeff 428 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: Fish was able to bring them back. And you're like, 429 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: to bring them back, where are you going to go? Y'all? 430 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: Weren't that good except for the joiner. There was a 431 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: couple joiner, But like so that's a big thing, is 432 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: like you have a whole position group jump into the portal, 433 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: and then you have that whole position group come back 434 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: out of the portal when you have a coach come 435 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: in and be able to massage their egos and let 436 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: them know there's a place for you here. Everything that 437 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: you were concerned about from your time before, we can 438 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: address those things. And that could tell you, like somebody 439 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: walked out of the door and they slammed the door 440 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: behind them and they were just being emotional. They just 441 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: needed to walk around the front yard, take a few 442 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: deep breaths, smoke cigarette, come back in and you know, 443 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: and and that like that needs to be that needs 444 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: to be addressed. And I don't know if n C 445 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: double A can be trusted as an organization to provide 446 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: essentially what is gonna ultimately end up being career counseling. 447 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Not somebody who's gonna steer these kids, but somebody who's 448 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna let them know this is actually what the transfer 449 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: portals like. Here's fifty people who jumped in the portal 450 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: that don't have a home anymore. This was their situation. 451 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: You might think that you're different than them, and here's 452 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: some other success stories, but like, we're in the beta 453 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: stages of what the transfer portal looks like. It actually 454 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: took a few years for grad transferring to become something 455 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: that was actually a player going to another team that 456 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: actually made contributions. Everybody was looking at Russell Wilson thinking 457 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be Russell Wilson. Everybody's looking at Devin 458 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Lucian saying like, oh, he grab transferred, and then all 459 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden he he earned himself a seventh round 460 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: pick from the New England Patriots when he wasn't really 461 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: doing much at at U c l A. Those guys 462 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: were exceptions. Most grad transfers came in and weren't able 463 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: to get their footing right away. Now so many people 464 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: are doing it that the percentage that have have success 465 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: is a little bit higher. Um, but it's we're in 466 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: the we're in the beta stages. And I just I 467 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: don't know how many college kids are college athletes listen 468 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: to this, but I just want to caution people against that. 469 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: I think the pendulum is gonna swing Georgia. I think 470 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: so many people are gonna be in the transfer portal 471 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: that staying is going to become the new leaving Yeah, yeah, 472 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: because they're gonna be like, yeah, no, it ain't out there. 473 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: But and then, and here's the other thing is do 474 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: you ever go to like, do you ever go to 475 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: a fast food restaurant? Because I don't feel like you're 476 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: this kind of person, But do you ever go to 477 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: a fast food restaurant and like something goes wrong and 478 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: like the drive thru gets backed up and the line 479 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: gets backed up, and you're towards the back of the line, 480 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: and in your head, you're like, people are gonna get 481 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: sick of this, They're gonna bail, and I'm gonna get 482 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: my food fat so than I would have anyway. But 483 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: that is the current. I feel like you're you're a 484 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: guy like, don't waste my time. My time is money 485 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: on yeah exactly. Meanwhile, I'm a guy that's like, man, 486 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have shipped to do anyway, I'm gonna stick 487 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: around see what happens. And then all of a sudden, 488 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: half the half the restaurant has a right to their 489 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: mindset and I'm ten minutes later, while they're still driving 490 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: to the next restaurant, I got my food. See, I 491 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: think staying is gonna become the new leaving. Okay, well see, 492 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing is that is that staying well, kids, 493 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: kids getting knocked. Oh he doesn't want to compete. Oh 494 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: he left. Here's the thing is if that because that 495 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: is true for some percentage of the kids. If that's true, 496 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: you didn't want them at your school anyway, let them leave. 497 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Don't bash them, just say oh, thank you do you 498 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: did us a favor. But the reason why fans are 499 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: mad and they talked ship is because there that they 500 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: feel like they lost something valuable. Um And now that's emotional. 501 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: It's an emotional process. Arizona State basketball just had the 502 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: whole damn team enter the portal. Meanwhile, they landed George, 503 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: They landed three of the top five available transfers. What 504 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: are you supposed to do as an a s U 505 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: basketball Every time a player enters the portal, you're like, 506 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, something must be wrong with Early. This 507 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: program is a mess. They gotta fire them, they gotta 508 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: move on right now. And then the next day some 509 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: dude who offered uh average like twenty to a game 510 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: at a mid level conference is like, I cannot wait 511 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: to get to Arizona States play for Earlier. You're like, 512 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, this dude's a gene. We need to 513 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: keep them around forever. And then the next day another 514 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: guard leaves and you're like, ah, it is a yo, yo, 515 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: and it's I feel like there's a potential there to 516 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: damage the enjoyability of the game. See, I don't, I don't, 517 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so, because people just want 518 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: to see the name win, like, and I think it 519 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: puts a premium on the guys who do stay. They 520 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: will become legends, like they will have a chance to 521 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: really become legends at at their school. And then guys 522 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: will come in who have like a fabulous year and 523 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: they will be like, yo, I scored more more points 524 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: than anybody in the history in a single season. Why 525 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: is this dude getting more more love because he's been 526 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: here with the fans and you just got got here. 527 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: No new friends, homeboy? Do you would you agree that consistency, continuity, 528 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: and chemistry contribute to the overall enjoyability of sports as 529 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: a product. What are those five offensive linemen consistency, continuity 530 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: and chemistry consistency continuity that they that that it improves 531 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: my life watchability. I would say that I like to 532 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: know the players, like there is something about about that where, 533 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: like you're watching the game, You're like, who the fund 534 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: is this dude? Where the hell did he come from? Okay, 535 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: but I'm more specifically, more specifically, I'm referring to the 536 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: actual play on the field because I remember back in 537 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: the day, and you back in the day, you were 538 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: probably playing at that time. Remember when Priest Holmes was 539 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: going off and Larry Johnson after him. Yep, Okay, so 540 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Priest Holmes is going off, and one of the things that, yeah, 541 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that they would always say when 542 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Priest Holmes would go out there and have like a 543 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: hundred eight yards rushing, seventy five yards receiving four touchdowns total. Right, 544 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that they would say is this 545 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: offensive line has been playing together for right. So what 546 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, let's say that you take like major 547 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: college football, and the average team, uh that is playing 548 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: at a really high level or is ranked in the 549 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: top ten or whatever, that you take the twenty two 550 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: starters and you say, oh, they've been at this school. 551 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: If you average out all twenty two starters, they've been 552 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: at this school for an average of three point one 553 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: years or something. Like that, and then transfer culture comes 554 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: in and contributes to your top ten teams. Maybe instead 555 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: of three point one years, maybe it's like two point four. 556 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: Don't you think the overall quality of the game and 557 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the ability um to to to produce a high level 558 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: product goes down. Take away the ability to have that 559 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: continuity chemistry in consistency. I think that after you get 560 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: past a year, it doesn't matter that like, because college 561 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: kids rotate in and out so much because there's only 562 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: so many years that they can stay that after they've 563 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: been there that I think that what you're saying is 564 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 1: right for the first year that a transfer gets in, 565 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,239 Speaker 1: But the second time he's there, he's just like it 566 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: was like a freshman that came in, like and it's 567 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: his second year year. There there's no difference. I don't. 568 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's but it's easier for there to 569 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: be no difference when you have somebody who comes in 570 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: for their first year and there's ten other guys who 571 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: had already been there for a year, and then when 572 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: you come in for your second year, all those same 573 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: guys are there. Yeah, but when you come in when 574 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: you come in for your first year and you're coming 575 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: in with seven guys who are all coming in for 576 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: their first year, and there's only two or three there 577 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: with the established culture, and then that next year those 578 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: two or three are gone. Where do you gain a 579 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: footholds to become that consistent force that well, I think 580 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: that the majority of your team has to be the 581 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: people that that are there. That you can't have it 582 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: like a revolving door, you know what I mean, like 583 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: it like it's been in basketball. I think you don't 584 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: have to have I think that that foot football is 585 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: a little bit different because in basketball you have these 586 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: guys being one and one and done and all that 587 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of kind of stuff. So you can't build that 588 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: culture and it's so uh you know, pressed upon the 589 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: coach to be able to do that. UM. Next up, though, 590 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: the recruiting dead period is gonna be over May thirty one. 591 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: This is exciting news to the Washington fans who I'm 592 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: always taking a dig at High High Hi Huskies UM 593 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: because they were like, Yo, this is gonna be the 594 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: year the d commit. All these kids are gonna be commit. Nope, 595 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: sorry I called it. They were not. They wanted to 596 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: lock in their spots. It was a pandemic. They weren't 597 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna be able to take take visits, sorry, buddy, And 598 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 1: they're like, Yo, we can't sign anybody. They can't get 599 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: here on campus. And I'm like, everybody is in the 600 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: same situation. Maybe you should recruit better over zoom and 601 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: on the phone, like you can't name other people when 602 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: everybody else is in the same exact circumstance. But over Washington. 603 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: State of Washington had plenty of talent right there this 604 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: last year, Uka t J to j J T to 605 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: him allowing a couple of other kids as well because 606 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: he picked a school. Yet is he just chilling and 607 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: not g Harrison just show up on campus in August? 608 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: Basically he's going on all five of his recruiting visits 609 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: after June one. Good luck to him. I am super curious. 610 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm been a huge fan of his for three years 611 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: and I'm tired of waiting. I hope it's a pack. 612 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: I hope he will be in the back twelve, bud. 613 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: He will be four hours south of Seattle, four hours 614 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: south south of Seattle, and then and then all the 615 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: Washington fans at playing for Oregon State. Now that's that's 616 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: three and a half hours. Oh. In Jean and then 617 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: Washington fans be like yo, he followed the bag man, 618 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: He followed the bag man. Uh Um, there is news 619 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: though in um so about about about the tournament, because 620 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve had a fabulous men's and women's n 621 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: C double a tournament, absolutely fabulous. You can't get any 622 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: better than what the women did in terms of pretty 623 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: much every team in the Sweet six team few and 624 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: the Elite eight and the championship game. The Pac twelve 625 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: had to win. The Pac twelve had to win like 626 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: there was no losing. Even if Arizona had beaten Stanford, 627 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: it was still a win for the conference. And and 628 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: then the men U c l A was a you know, 629 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: a forty five ft half court shot by uh sugs 630 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: from Gonzaga away from being in the championship game. Bro, Like, 631 00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: that's incredible, absolutely incredible. It was cool man, it was 632 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: a fun ride. I'm bummed that we weren't making shows 633 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: while it was going on, but I was definitely enjoying it. 634 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: Um Oregon State, absolutely fantastic, hell of a ride they 635 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: ran into Gas. Couldn't be mad at him. U c 636 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: l A. You just have to. I spent so much 637 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: time wondering what if, like I was so high on 638 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: Chris Smith, I thought he should have stayed. I thought 639 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: I I thought that he would have got drafted. I 640 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: thought that he was one of the better prospects. And 641 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: even if he didn't get drafted, we've seen guys come 642 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: out of the Pack twelve, have NBA executives ignore them 643 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: and then have success. Lou Dort scored forty two points 644 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: the other night against the Utah Jazz for a dude 645 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: who can't to score on anybody. Yeah, and he and so, 646 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, but physically, all the tools were there. And 647 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: that's how I feel about Chris Smith. I think he's 648 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: got a lot of what um NBA teams look for, 649 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: and I think he I don't know if he would 650 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: have been in u c l a's best player, but 651 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: he would have helped, and I think that would have 652 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: put him in a position to potentially play for a 653 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: national championship. But if you're the Pact twelve, you've gotta 654 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: be extremely proud of what you accomplished, and doing so 655 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: without Arizona, without Arizona State, with the University of Washington 656 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: doing their usual thing where they whether they have first 657 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: round talent or not, seem to only win five or 658 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: six games. I don't understand how they pull that off. Man, 659 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: they have had so many good players and it just 660 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: has never translated into the level of success that they 661 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: should be having. And I don't I don't fully comprehend that. 662 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, I think I think that. Um 663 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 1: you know, I think USC is back right there, back 664 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: and now are you sure hanging over their head they're 665 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: not mobile is gone, Like that's the best thing that 666 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: they had going. But but but they do this in 667 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: basketball though, they'll have like a you know, a m oh, 668 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: what's the what's the dude's name? Who play in the NBA? 669 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: Who's the spend it right now? Who went to USC? 670 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't yes, yes, O J O J. Mayo Like 671 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: they have these O J. Mayo spurts. We're like, they'll 672 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: get a player, he'll be special and then they'll be like, 673 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I like the phrase Mayo spurts. Oh, 674 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: speaking speaking of that, since you, I'm going to anybody 675 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: who listens to the Pack twelve of Bossles and knows 676 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: that Ralph is super blessy that he'll blush on you 677 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: super quick. Today's National Horn. You did you really mute 678 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: me like horns like having horns, No horny, no national 679 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: horny like like horny toad. No no like no like 680 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: sparky like horns. No like sex. I don't know what 681 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Horns like the guy that's throwing the 682 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: capitol horns corny. Alright, alright, mate, horny mayo skirts? Wow. Wow, 683 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: See you started this, not not me. You started, but 684 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: I were the one. You're the you're gonna finish. Podcast 685 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: is over, He's gonna fin on. I don't like this show. 686 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: This is gonna result in some reviews. Oh my god. Okay, 687 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: well before we get to talking about Arizona Mens and 688 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: women's bad basketball, rob, how about you pull up the 689 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: reviews then, because we got two reviews. All right, give 690 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: me a second. I got the upgraded to the iPhone twelves, 691 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: so that has to take like the facial imprint now, 692 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: I said facial all right, we're done. We're done. I 693 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: think we got to end the podcast here and uh 694 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: and never talk again. Okay, let's see here shows. I 695 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: actually listened to the Pack twelve Apostles because it's a 696 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: great show, and I think I'm gonna go leave a 697 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: review all right here we Go Sinko stars March from 698 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: Guac Taco. Great user name. As a Titans slash Rec's fan, 699 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: I automatically disagree with most of the things George typically says, 700 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: but I will still give you five stars. Great conversation 701 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: and content on every episode. Keep up the good work, Fellas. 702 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: It's a good review we got and we gotta update 703 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: from our guy. Five underscores, zero underscore three. How about 704 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: this tournament run? Love to see the Packs start to 705 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: get some respect. We are now officially a basketball league. 706 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: L O L What do you think of that? Are 707 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: we a basketball league? Are we are we because we were? 708 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: We were what we were tennis and rowing? I think 709 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: that pack well and softball stop, it's softball baseball, okay, 710 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: But when people say Conference of Champions, they're referring to 711 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: all of that. So I think, yeah, I don't know. 712 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: I think that we're I think we're still a Reggie 713 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: Bush nostalgia conference despite every good thing that has happened 714 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: since then. Um, okay, people talk about Reggie Bush. People 715 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: talk about Reggie Bush more than they talk about Marcus Mariota, 716 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: more than they talk about the University of the Washington 717 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: team that made the deep run, like this conference is 718 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: still super anchored. And what the one the team that 719 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: played Penn State in the festival not that long ago, 720 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: the Kwan Burke. We went off against him in the 721 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: second half. You're not recalling this. I was at the game, 722 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: so I know it happened in the Wait are you 723 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: tabout when they when they played in the playoff. I'm 724 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: talking about the cornerstone of the Pac twelve North, the 725 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: University of Washington Huskies football. Do you better watch your mouth, buddy, 726 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: you better watch you better watch your mouth? Uh? They didn't. 727 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: They have made a deep run and ship they made 728 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: it to college football player and got their doors blown 729 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: off in the college football playoffs. Yeah during a down 730 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: year for Oregon. So what okay? Okay? Well, anyway, people 731 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: are still clamoring for the Reggie Bush line, like this 732 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: conference is still hung up on that that that has happened. 733 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: Since you have to win a championship, like there's no 734 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: way around it, Like you have to. And I would 735 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: venture to guess that even if they hadn't won, Even 736 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: if they hadn't one, and I know that it contributed 737 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: their overall legacy, But even if they hadn't won, even 738 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: it was only that team that lost to Vince Young. 739 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: I think that would be what think, no way because 740 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: I mean well s C yes, because they've had the 741 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: most historical success. But over the last twenty years, Oregon 742 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: has had the most success. But they haven't closed the deal. 743 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: They haven't won a national championship, and so that is 744 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: a stain on the conference part of it. Yeah, I 745 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: mean like, so I can admit it, my organ ducts. 746 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: We've lost in the National Championship twice. You have to 747 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: win one for people to stop talking shit. It's a fact. Um. 748 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: But the other part about Reese's and Peanut Butter and 749 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So for you guys that don't know Ralph, 750 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: Ralph sometimes he does the Devil's work and he's sent 751 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: me look at his face. His face looks like wait 752 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: what So he was doing the Devil's work when he 753 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: sent me a picture of some what do you what 754 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: do you mean? Picture? Oh? Some damn? Oh no know. 755 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: It was on this podcast, The Reese's Peanut Butter, The 756 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: Reese's Peanut Butter Cup Comedy Peanut Butter. Yeah. Yeah, as 757 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: somebody hit us on the text line. So you guys 758 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: can always hit us on the text line one eight 759 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: two nine three seven five four seven eight two nine 760 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 1: three seven five four seven if you want to text us, 761 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: somebody text us a picture of those Reese's chocolate list 762 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: peanut butter cups. It was like, this is for you, Ralph, 763 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: no chocolate, the all peanut butters. Yes, so uh and 764 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: I think I text this to you as well. The 765 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: Harris Teeter, which is like the like Kroger grocery store 766 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: here in North Carolina. Um, we got here right after 767 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: the Easter holiday, and so they go and they put 768 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: all the Easter candy on discount, and um, have you 769 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: have you noticed maybe you're not like a candyhog like 770 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: like me. Have you noticed just like the price of 771 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: the indy bars in the grocery store aisles keep going 772 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: up and how much, Just like I have no idea 773 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: how much a candy bar costs. I would I would 774 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: have your You know what's funny because you said that 775 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: this has gone up and up and up. You know 776 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: what's funny as I know for a fact that you 777 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: do eat candy sometimes, so it's not coming from a 778 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: place of like I don't eat candy. You just pulled 779 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: the and rest in peace to her. But you just 780 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: pulled the mother from arrested Development. You're like, it's a banana, Michael, 781 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: what could it cost ten dollars? You have no idea 782 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: what a candy bar cost because you just throw it 783 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: in the cart and just put the card in the 784 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: thing and don't pay any attention to the screen. I 785 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 1: I spent my okay, so I did spend my childhood. 786 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: We'd ride our bikes, stand like Circle K or Target 787 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: or whatever. We collect the change out of the out 788 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: of the couch and get like sense could get you 789 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: a recess or a butterfinger. Now it's like two bucks. 790 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: No what I'm saying this this some this inflation going up. 791 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: I really ever eat as a Snickers bar, right, but 792 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: holding oh, I do know the price of a of 793 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: a bar, dude, because I will get like a Lent, 794 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: a Lent chocolate milk chocolate bar with with with hazel nuts. 795 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite ones. Right That thing is 796 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: like four thirty nine or four seventy nine somewhere some 797 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: somewhere in there, that's a lot of Do you pay 798 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:37,479 Speaker 1: in bitcoin? That's quite the what? Okay, this is gonna 799 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: become just a candy podcast because I Also, I don't 800 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: know the difference between hazel nut and chocolate. Tell it 801 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: to me. It is just chocolate. No, no, no, no, 802 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: no no, it actually has the hazel nuts in it, 803 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 1: like sliced up like like almonds. It's not hazel nut flavor. 804 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: It's actual hazel nuts. I know, I know what an almonds, 805 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: AVE seen an almond tree, But what's a hazel nut? 806 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm never in my life, like what did they even 807 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: come from? Is there a hazel nut tree? Nut tree? 808 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think it is? It's 809 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: a nut, Just like I don't know because I don't 810 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 1: have and seventy cents to spend on a candy bar. 811 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: This is how much good chocolate costs. Anyway, back to 812 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: the start, back the story. So the Easter that they 813 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: discount and I never understand because I feel like fat 814 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: people like me was still going by the full price 815 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: Easter candy. Um. But the second the holiday ends, that 816 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: next day, they was like everything and they had Reese's 817 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: peanut butter cups that were marsh mellow coated. Yeah, so 818 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: marshmallow over the chocolate over the peanut butter, and I 819 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: bought like three of them. Are you thinking that was 820 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: it any good? Yeah, and it was okay. It wasn't 821 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: what it was doing too much is what it felt like. Yeah, 822 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: it can see your point. I did concede your point 823 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: on peanut butter and chocolate the other day. I was 824 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: talking to somebody and it has to be like they 825 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: have to. It can't just be peanut butter and chocolate. 826 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: You can't take a Hershey's bar and dip it in 827 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: a in a thing of skippy and take a bite. 828 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: That's not good. That's weird. Well, you should not be 829 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: eating hershey bars. They taste like dirt. First thing. Um, 830 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: like the the chocolate is grainy in there. Have you 831 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: noticed that it's grain? No? I don't. If I'm gonna 832 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: eat a chocolate bar, I don't eat. I don't. I 833 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: don't just get Hershey's like the Dove little things. Due. 834 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 1: There is a bar that I forget what what brand 835 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: it is, and it has like chocolate and it has 836 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: a s'mores flavor. It's got little bitty real marsh marshmallows 837 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 1: attached to each little square and it's got like Graham 838 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: crackers into dude, it takes just like a smore. It's amazing. Um, 839 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: but that was like five bucks, not a Oh god, dang, 840 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: where where God you're you're like paying ballpark prices for 841 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: your candy anyway, I swear to God, this is the 842 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: sports podcast. You are incorrect about the best cookie in 843 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: the world peanut butter cookie with a chocolate snow in 844 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: the middle. Are you crazy? No? The best There are 845 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: two options for best best cookies with a runner up. 846 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: The runner up is oatmeal raising runner up second best. 847 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: People are gonna You just made people throw their phone 848 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: out the window while driving. No one likes oatmeal raisin cookie. 849 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: Are you crazy? No? They are the only reason, the 850 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: only reason oatmeal raisin cookies exist. And I don't mind 851 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: that they're not terrible. The only reason oatmeal raisin cookies 852 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: exist is because they're easier to make there for people 853 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 1: who are like beginner cookie bakers. Oh are you serious 854 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: right now? Dead serious? Oh my god? Okay? And then 855 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: the second best okay, second best cookie is um is 856 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: oh is white chocolate Macadamien nut cookie warm? Okay? Number one? 857 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Number one a chocolate chip cookie. It 858 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: is by far the best cookie. It is a superior 859 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: cookie than any other cookie that there is, except there's 860 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: this cookie place here called Milk jug who makes these 861 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: thick cookies with the They actually make a h a 862 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: white chocolate raspberry cookie, which is probably one of the 863 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: best things I've ever had in my whole life. Okay, well, 864 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,959 Speaker 1: there's definitely too much wiggle room on a chocolate chip cookie, 865 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: Like there's too many ways screwed up. There's too many 866 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: Like you can have a bad, bad chocolate chip cookie. No, 867 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: you can't. Potential I'm talking about potential is there for 868 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: chocolate chip So how to hell peanut butter cookie be 869 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: be better? It's more sophisticated and there's only like one 870 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: or two ways to make a peanut butter cookie. Peanut 871 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: butter cookies are probably tenth on the list. Dude, I 872 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: would rather have a snicker doodle cookie a a sugar cookie. 873 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: Uh the Okay, you're sleeping on. I don't want on 874 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: the fun fetty. I don't eat brownies right. I think 875 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: brownies are completely over overrated. Brownies, fudge very weird. But 876 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: but right people are gonna be screaming into their earphones 877 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 1: right now. You don't like brownies. You think oatmeal raisin 878 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: is the third best cookie. You don't think peanut butter 879 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: and chocolate go together, and you pay five dollars for 880 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: your candy bars, and peanut butter cookies are below brownies. Yeah, 881 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: you should put a brownie on top of your peanut 882 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: butter cookie. Absolutely, I agree. No, I mean like they're 883 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: they're worse in the in the in the Cookie Brownie 884 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: Power rankings. Okay, okay, we're gonna have to get somebody 885 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: who's responsible for the official voting for the Cookie Brownie 886 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: Power rankings on the podcast. Until then, we need to 887 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: move on to the next topic. Okay, I'm hungry as hell, 888 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: all right. So, um, we were talking about Arizona men's 889 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: and women's basketball. So Arizona hired a new coach and 890 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: Ralph put up a corny tweet. He put up a 891 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: picture of what's what's the dude's name, Tommy Callahan's Yes, 892 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: Tommy Boy. Yes. So he put up a picture of wait, no, no, no, no, 893 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: what's the new Arizona new coach name? Oh, Tommy Lloyd, Yes, 894 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: Tommy Lloyd. Ralph tweeted out a picture of Lloyd from 895 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: Dumb and Dumber as the second picture, and the first 896 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: picture was Tommy Boy. So he was like, Arizona hired 897 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: a new, new new coat. It was like one of 898 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: those words, like one of those picture games where it's 899 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: like Tommy, Tommy Lloyd, So what do you want those for? 900 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: Everybody former Arizona Desert Um, it's Tommy Lloyd's I think 901 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: a good higher There's a lot of Arizona fans that 902 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: are upset. Um. They wanted to see Sean Miller finished 903 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 1: out his contract or even be extended. And I'm sympathetic 904 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: to that because if you look at some of the 905 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: stuff that's gone on surrounding Arizona basketball, as far as 906 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: Book Richardson going to jail, ESPN reporting stuff that they 907 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: never backed up and never taking it back. Um, just 908 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: the endless allegations and ongoing n C double A investigation. 909 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying University of Arizona is a victim, but 910 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: like that, if you were within that, under that black cloud, 911 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: you had to be absolutely sick of it, right. And 912 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 1: it's not like Sean Miller has done a terrible job 913 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: as head coach of the University of Arizona. Five years 914 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 1: ago they won like thirty two games. Four years ago 915 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: they won twenty seven games. In the last five years, 916 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: they have eight draft picks overall, six first round draft picks, UM. 917 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I think is a 918 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: huge credit to University of Arizona's program. And tell me 919 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: if you disagree with this is Sean Miller gets his 920 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: guys drafted ahead of where they should be. Because of 921 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: all of the people that have been drafted out of 922 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: University of Arizona in the last six years, the only 923 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: one who's really lived up to his draft positioning is 924 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: probably Lori Markin And who went ninth overall. UM. Everybody 925 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: else is is struggling, right, So, so do you think 926 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: it was the I don't say DeAndre Ayton is struggling, 927 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: but Luke, I think that I just think that it 928 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: got examining the lack of tournament success. The lack of 929 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: tournament success was not helpful, but I think that it 930 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: got exhausting for University of Arizona to I think they 931 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to turn the page and they wanted a 932 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: fresh start. And can you really blame them? They stood 933 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: by him. It never really went away, It dragged on. 934 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: They self imposed a penalty and Sean Miller, it's not 935 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 1: like what Kansas did just gave him a lifetime contract. 936 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 1: They could have done that. But here's here's the issue. 937 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: They hired Jetfish, okay, and I think jet fish is 938 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: hiring contributed to Sean Miller's dismissal. And here's why. Kevin 939 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: Sumlin was not good with the media. He was not 940 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: good with the Tucson community. He was not welcoming, he 941 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: was not open, He did not do a good job 942 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: promoting the program, and he didn't do a good job 943 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,919 Speaker 1: of recruiting. When they brought in jet Fish, he came 944 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: in and he did the exact opposite of Kevin Sumlin 945 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: in every single of those areas. He hit local recruiting hart, 946 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: He's super friendly with the media, he opened up practices, 947 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: he was on social media doing a good job. And 948 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: I think that President Robbins and Athletic Director Date he 949 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: looked at that and they were like, wow. You know, 950 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 1: Sean Miller has been under the cloud of this scandal 951 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: for the last few years. He's not on social media. 952 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: He's surly with the media when he's in person. They 953 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: don't do a good media at all. No, Sean Miller 954 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: doesn't even have a Twitter account. How are you going 955 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: to be a college head coach not on social media? 956 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, I think bringing in Jet Fish 957 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: gave them a breath of fresh air and outlined what 958 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: they probably wanted to look for and had basketball coach, 959 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: which was somebody who was going to come in give 960 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: them that fresh start and and was gonna be somebody 961 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: who um was able to engage with the local community, 962 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: was going to be somebody who the national community wasn't 963 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: head hunting, whether it was justified or not. And it's 964 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody who who is able to represent himself 965 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: out in in the world and on social media and 966 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: things like that. UM. And I think that they feel 967 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: like they found that in Tommy Lloyd. Tommy Lloyd is 968 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: a rare specimen. He's a twenty year assistant of Mark 969 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: Few at Gonzaga UM and and you know, depending on 970 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: how much credit you want to give him for Gonzaga's success, 971 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of University of Arizona fans 972 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: who feel like the School of lud Olsen shouldn't stoop 973 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: to the level of hiring somebody else's assistant coach. And 974 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 1: in the process they were like, we need to hire 975 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: Eric Musselman. What an Eric Musselman used to be like right, 976 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: like what in Josh Pastner used to be an assistant coach. 977 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: They just wanted to stay within the family, right, Um, 978 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: which which I totally understand. But Tommy Lloyd was an 979 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: assistant to to Mark Few for twenty years Gonzaga. The 980 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: last two times that they went head to head with 981 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: the University of Arizona, they beat their ass He's a 982 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: good recruiter, He's got yeah, he's got international ties. And 983 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: Sean Miller already started to steer University of Arizona basketball 984 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: into into instead of going after one dones, bringing in 985 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: the best international talent. And so I think that Tommy 986 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: Lloyd is going to be able to continue to foster 987 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: those relationships and take them in that direction. And I 988 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: think he just gives them a fresh start. So overall, 989 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a good higher. I don't understand why 990 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: people are upset. I don't understand why people are panicking. Um. 991 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: Do I think that Sean Miller deserves to be fired. 992 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't think that he deserved 993 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: to be fired. But that's just the way this business works. 994 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: The one thing that did make me laugh as University 995 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: of Arizona came out and they were like, hey, he 996 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: was integral and helping these twelve players of the last 997 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: twenty years from Gonzaga get to the NBA, like Adam Morrison, 998 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: like Rony Turryoff, you know, like all all these other guys. 999 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: And I looked at that and I kind of laughed 1000 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,919 Speaker 1: because I was like, twelve NBA players, that's light work 1001 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: for Sean, Right. Well, it's like with the way though, 1002 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:56,479 Speaker 1: right yes, and which was a big part of how well, 1003 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: if you want to believe that, you know that they 1004 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: were doing things on the up and up, then Sean 1005 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Miller did have a lot to do with some of 1006 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: those recruits that that that that they were getting and 1007 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: they gotta hope that they can continue to recruit at 1008 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: a at a high level. But it's it is curious 1009 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: because there's all this hype around Bobby Hurley, all this 1010 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: hype around you know, Arizona State University coming up, and 1011 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: over the last five years, University of Arizona went seven 1012 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: and three against a SU So Sean Miller was recruiting well, 1013 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: he was getting guys to the NBA above what their 1014 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: value was like there is no question that guys from 1015 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: University of Arizona are getting drafted higher than they should 1016 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: have consistently. And I think that as you do with 1017 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Sean Miller, they had success against a su they were 1018 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 1: making it to the tournament. They had a thirty two 1019 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: win season, they had a twenty seven win season in 1020 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: recent history, and and even with everything going on, and 1021 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: even with imposing the penalty upon themselves, they still won 1022 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: five games against tournament teams. Last year, they went five 1023 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,439 Speaker 1: and six against teams that made the n C Double 1024 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: A tournament. I think that's pretty good considering that eleven 1025 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: of their players were sophomores and younger, and seven of 1026 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: their players were born outside the United States. I think 1027 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: that all of that was a good resume for Sean Miller, 1028 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: deserving to go on and continue to coach University of Arizona. 1029 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 1: But I also think Tommy Lloyd's great higher two things 1030 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: can be true. Yeah, yeah, I think that it remains 1031 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: to be seen. They took a page out of the 1032 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: jet Fish book, did it again. So if they if 1033 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: they're right, dude, this will turn out to be like 1034 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: a fantastic to fantastic hires. But Arizona basketball is they 1035 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,959 Speaker 1: gotta feel good? Yeah, And Arizona they have to feel 1036 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: good because us C. But USC just just got like 1037 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: way less sanctions than people thought they were gonna get. 1038 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: So you they has to feel pretty good about where 1039 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: they're at right now. Yes, and the fact that they 1040 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: it's funny they self imposed thanks, but they weren't going 1041 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: to the tournament anyway, so it didn't matter. That was 1042 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: so I guess um, UM speaking of us Oh well, actually, 1043 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: before we get to them, you want to talk about 1044 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: the Arizona's women's basketball team who made it to the finals. 1045 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: They just got a transfer from Oregon, got a good 1046 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: recruiting class. This should be a team that's gonna be 1047 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: good again next year. Um. But their coach was kind 1048 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: of the star of the show. Like she caused a 1049 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: little bit of controversy, but also like her being a 1050 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: mom out there coaching doing all this. I was like, yo, 1051 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: I was all in on her. Okay, So first of all, 1052 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: let's let's get to the controversy first, because that's probably 1053 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the fun one. UM. Adia Barnes is the head coach 1054 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: of the University of Arizona basketball. I remember there was 1055 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a lot of hype when she got hired by you 1056 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: of a UM. She she has definitely helped them get 1057 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: good quick. A couple of years ago they were not 1058 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: very good at all, and and now they are, um, 1059 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, well, let's put it this way. The last 1060 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: time they made the n C Double A tournament George 1061 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: two thousand five, two thousand and they went to the championship. Yes, yes, 1062 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: so they went. They went three years in a row, 1063 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: oh three, oh four, oh five. Haven't been back since. 1064 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: They went to the national Championship and were one pretty 1065 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: decent look at the basket away from being national champions. 1066 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: And they knocked off number one Yukon by ten points. 1067 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know when the last time Yukon lost by 1068 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: ten was, so, you know, it's I think, I think. 1069 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 1: And then on top of all that, a Da Barnes 1070 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: was passed passionate. She went double middle fingers up in 1071 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: their win over Yukon, which made social media blow up. 1072 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: What did you think of that? Because there are a 1073 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: lot of people that like, this is unbecoming, This doesn't 1074 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: promote sportsmanship. A woman shouldn't talk like that. I don't 1075 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: give a damn dude, like this creates a little I 1076 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 1: think it's a bad look only because you know, I mean, 1077 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: like you don't want to be throwing middle fingers up 1078 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: up if it feels seems like it's going to relate 1079 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: against another team or something like that. But in reality, dude, 1080 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: let people celebrate how they gonna celebrate. If the if 1081 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Yukon is going to be mad about it, let them 1082 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: put them on a schedule or let them get them 1083 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: in a tournament that next year, and and you know, 1084 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: and put it put it on them that way, you 1085 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: get a chance to get your revenge. Those are the things. 1086 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, Yukon smart enough to know that 1087 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 1: that wasn't directed towards them. Yeah, that was directed toward 1088 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: any anybody who thought that University of Arizona didn't belong 1089 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 1: on the court. And I'll say this, you know, some 1090 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: of the people that were upset, if they were truly upset, 1091 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: if they weren't just looking for a reason to be mad. 1092 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Some of the people that were upset, I don't know 1093 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: if they've ever been in a locker room. Because some 1094 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: of the most morally upstanding, religious, steadfast, fruit of the 1095 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Spirit displaying coaches that I've ever been around, man, when 1096 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: they're in the locker room, they sound like they're in 1097 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: Tarantino film exactly exactly Like remember when I remember when 1098 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: we remember when we said that Kyle Whittingham would never 1099 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: be the one to have fed those anonymous quotes to 1100 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman because they had so many efforts in them. 1101 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 1: And then we got a bunch of messages from Utah. 1102 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 1: You don't know, uh yeah yeah yeah, so um, I 1103 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I thought it was funny, like she was 1104 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: talking to her team. It was within the huddle. It 1105 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like she said it Holly Row on the sideline 1106 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 1: or something like she she and it was. It was brief. 1107 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't like she held him up to the sky. 1108 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, take this bitches. Yeah. Uh the She's got 1109 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: a great personality. She's great for the women's game. I 1110 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: loved that she because everyone's like, oh, her being the 1111 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: story takes away from the women, like no, you weren't 1112 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: talking about them. It adds to it. Yeah you need 1113 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: it makes you want to tune in and see what 1114 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: she did next. Ye Can I tell you one thing 1115 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 1: that made me uncomfortable. I saw a lot of people 1116 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: celebrating her, Um see if we can get ourselves in 1117 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: trouble on this podcast. I saw a lot of people 1118 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:29,479 Speaker 1: celebrating her for being a new mom. Um and having 1119 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: to do stuff like uh, pump breast milk at halftime 1120 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 1: and wake up early on the day of the championship 1121 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: because her kid I didn't sleep right. Um, and I 1122 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: saw a lot of women in particular were like, man 1123 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Ada Barnes is a badass, right, She's what a badass? Um? 1124 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I I took it a different way. I was like, man, 1125 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: this sucks. The whole thing sucks because you you know, 1126 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: you know how, you know what it's like having a 1127 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: yes and you but but you, but you're trying to 1128 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 1: perform at a high level, locked in, focused and all 1129 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: of that. So I actually thought she was a badass. 1130 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Like I was like, yo, like that sucks, but she is, 1131 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: but she's performing at a high level. Then it also 1132 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: made me think about how difficult it is for women 1133 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot of times, because if you want to have 1134 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: a career and to have a family, Like like when 1135 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: when my kids are being born, they didn't stop me 1136 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: for playing football. It didn't. I mean I didn't like 1137 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 1: like granted, like yeah, you may have to miss a 1138 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: workout for a doctor's visit or something like like that, 1139 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: but aside from that, it didn't stop me. I didn't 1140 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: have to you know, get a C section or heal 1141 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: up after and then try to go back and be 1142 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 1: out like Serena. No, it was it was just I'm 1143 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: not comparing men and women to as it's it's like 1144 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: apples to bananas. Could not be more different, um of 1145 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 1: a situation. But every time a guy is out there 1146 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: playing a sport or on a road trip and he's 1147 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 1: got an infinite home, never is my thought like, oh, 1148 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: what a badass. It's always damn like like our our 1149 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 1: maternity and paternity in this country needs a lot of work. 1150 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: People should be spending time with their newborn kids, the 1151 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 1: most important thing in the entire world. And so it 1152 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: was more of like this was more of an issue 1153 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 1: of necessity, and she was getting the job done and 1154 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: it was cool to see that it's possible. But at 1155 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 1: the same time I felt bad, Like I felt really 1156 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: bad for I was like, man, it would be I'm 1157 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: sure she would. She would really love to be focused 1158 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: on just like in the situation you know, um that 1159 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I was in, Like when when I had an infant 1160 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 1: and had to go do something or whatever, I like, 1161 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: I wish I was at home, you know, And so 1162 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 1: I just I didn't take it as um. I will 1163 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: say that a lot of the women in sports media 1164 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: who I who were talking about how hardcore she was, 1165 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: I think quite a few of them maybe didn't have 1166 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: kids because it was like, yeah, yeah, because there's there's 1167 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: part of you gotta realize, like what she was doing. 1168 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't like she was lifting heavy weights. It was 1169 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 1: an inconvenience. It was a bird on top of your 1170 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: normal job, and it's hard. Yeah, and and yeah, and 1171 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I would rather have somebody like pat me on the 1172 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: back than be like, hey, like you're killing it. You're 1173 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: I'd rather have somebody pat me on the back and 1174 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: be like hey, I see you, Like you know, this 1175 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: is an ideal, I see you. It wasn't like I 1176 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: just saw all these people celebrating her and I was like, man, 1177 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 1: this is actually a lot harder than a lot of 1178 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: these people. I don't think a lot of these people 1179 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: have kids. This situation of her having to get up 1180 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: three hours earlier than she would have wanted to because 1181 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 1: her kid was crying on the day of the championship, 1182 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: the the idea that they had to limit the amount 1183 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: of like people that they could bring. Um, like somebody 1184 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: see the bubble because of her baby like and and 1185 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: that having to be on her. Uh, but she had 1186 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 1: to be so exhausted, like you like one of the 1187 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: another thing people don't know about, like pumping breast milk 1188 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. Pumping breast milk burns like more calories than 1189 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: running a brathon. Yeah, breastfeeding fux you up, Like I've 1190 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: had to curse on the podcast. But like, I don't know, 1191 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,719 Speaker 1: I just I'm not trying to be controversial or anything 1192 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: like that. I just saw a lot of people celebrating it. 1193 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 1: That was actually like there was controversial because you're get 1194 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: giving her big props. Uh. The last thing we got 1195 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: up today, the PAC twelve Networks had a surplus. Great job, 1196 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Larry Scott. You did it, buddy, you finally did it. 1197 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: You know how he did it by cutting How he 1198 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,600 Speaker 1: did it by cutting the entire staff. Um. So his 1199 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: projection was when he made the presentation back in two 1200 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve to the well two thousand eleven or 1201 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve of the PAC twelve Networks. Scott's presentation 1202 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: to the campus officials said that the high end payouts 1203 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: would be seven to ten million dollars per school, middle 1204 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: five to seven, and low three to five per year. Well, 1205 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 1: this is the first year that they've even hit the 1206 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,839 Speaker 1: three million mark. First year, and they had to fire 1207 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 1: everybody to do it. Put in remote cameras that are 1208 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: coming in, you know, like like they have for the 1209 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 1: n f h S High school stuff. Like, there's a 1210 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Man, the worst broadcasting company in the 1211 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 1: history of the world. Always good to model your business 1212 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 1: after the n f a h S. Yeah. So, um 1213 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 1: so this is the front time trying to tune in 1214 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,719 Speaker 1: and trying to tune in and watch a high school 1215 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 1: football game and the student camera operator has zoomed in 1216 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,919 Speaker 1: on his crush and the row missing an entire series. 1217 01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,839 Speaker 1: N jes right. So it's a s plus of forty 1218 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: five million dollars three point seven five um distribution to 1219 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: each campus, first time ever. And Larry Scott's like, see, 1220 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 1: I told you guys, it's coming. See look, see look 1221 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: you guys kick kick me out. As soon as I 1222 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 1: got I'm getting the thing rolling. Even though you have 1223 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 1: to fire every damn body to get that to be done, 1224 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: and have not a lot of sports televised and all 1225 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 1: of that, it's a all right, buddy. Yeah, So in 1226 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 1: order to pay people your network had to sail the 1227 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: one thing that you told everyone justified them not getting paid. 1228 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 1: So your success is an admission of failure. That's how dysfunctional. 1229 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: His reign was good riddance yep, exactly one. Um the 1230 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, so so yeah, so that's so. That's it, guys. 1231 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: That's the back twelve apostles. We are back. Ralph is 1232 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: stable sort of hopefully didn't fall through the floor when 1233 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: it Hey do you have to watch the money bit? 1234 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: You you have to? Um? Yeah, hopefully. Is it gonna 1235 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 1: like is it? Is it gonna upset me? Like? Am 1236 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: I going to be able to be entertained? Yes? Yes, 1237 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: you are going to laugh, but you but you may 1238 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: cry at the same time. Or is it gonna be 1239 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 1: like when I went to Saving Private Ryan and they 1240 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 1: were like World War two vets in the theater? Oh 1241 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: so also, so you're saying that you're gonna be like 1242 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: the World War two vet. But in terms of the 1243 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: house buying version, maybe maybe I just want to know 1244 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,720 Speaker 1: if it's gonna trigger, because it's not even PTSD at 1245 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: this point, it's just t s D. Oh yeah, so 1246 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 1: it may. It may, but but you're gonna laugh along 1247 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,320 Speaker 1: the way. It's funny, it's hilarry. I don't know. I'll 1248 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: do it for you. I'll do it for you. Yes, please, 1249 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna hilarious, you guys. This is the Pact Wealth 1250 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,519 Speaker 1: Apostles podcast. You guys, Thank you guys for listening. Peace out, 1251 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Catch you guys next week