1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Ken 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: is off today, Deborah Marcus here. Steve Gregory is in Hawaii. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Going to get to him in just a few seconds. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: But we've got a lot coming up in the two 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. You may have heard over the last few 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: days there's been two mobs that have ransacked two shopping malls. 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: The Eaves Saint Laurent Sora at the Americana in Glendale 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: that's owned by Rick Caruso, and then the nord Strums 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: in Canoga Park the Topanga Ball That huge group thirty 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: to fifty and grabbed perhaps one hundred thousand dollars worth 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: of merchandise. I'm sure you've seen the videos of that. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Blake Turley's going to come on at two o'clock to 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: talk about the Nordstroms getting invaded, and then Rick Caruso 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: will be on at two thirty because he's certain angry. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: You may remember Carusoe ran from mayor. We had a 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: choice to turn away from all this insanity, and people 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: picked Karen Bass instead. At least a majority did all that. 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: Coming up to the two o'clock hour. But first, Steve 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Gregory is in Maui covering the huge fire. The death 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: toll is at last report was ninety six. It's going 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: up all the time. In fact, the governor said ten 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: to twenty deaths will probably be confirmed each day as 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: they continue the investigation. And a lot of people upset. 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people got very little warning that the 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: fires were coming, and Steve is there to unravel the story. Steve, 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: how are you? 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's I'll tell you something. We can 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: talk about how upset we get in southern California when 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: you know things don't seem to be happening fast enough. 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you our response for fire in southern 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: California is probably one of the best the world when 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: you think about the totality of resources, infrastructure, coordination, logistics, 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: and none of that really took place here on the 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: island of Maui. And all of the locals I've been 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: speaking with since my arrival yesterday, the one common theme 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: is they're all pretty pissed off. And they're all pretty 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: pissed off because they feel like someone failed to flip 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: the switch to warn everybody. Now, there's been a lot 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: made about the fact that there was no cell service 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: and that they couldn't warn anybody because there was no power, 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: no cell service. But as I talked to more and 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: more people, they're like, well, the system always works when 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: there's gale force wins for hurricanes and tsunamis, but this 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: time it didn't work. What's different this time around, and 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: what they're saying now is that that people were not 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 2: prepared for wildfire conditions. Officials were not ready to pull 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: the trigger and send out those warnings, and that included 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: the sirens that are abundantly obvious here on the island. 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: They're all over the place, so civil defense sirens, and 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: no one flipped the switch to warn anybody. And lawsuits 52 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: are already being filed to blame Hawaii Power Company, which 53 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: basically runs ninety five percent of the entire state's power supply. 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: And then I'm just recently hearing very disturbing stories about 55 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: water pressure that when firefighters went to connect to the 56 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: fire plugs their hoses, there was very little to no 57 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: water pressure and a lot of the hydrants and they 58 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: were unable to use them, and so they had to 59 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: just say, we can't even do anything with the fire 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: We're just going to help evacuate people best we can. 61 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: And then as the fire was tearing through and then 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: pulling down the power lines and you know, destroying substances, 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: then water pumps from around the area were also impacted, 64 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: so they could not get any water in quick enough 65 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: to even put a dent in the flame. So there's 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: a lot of pissed off people on this on this island. 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: The local authorities thought that the fire was put out 68 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: that morning, and then by mid afternoon it re emerged. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: There are two fires. There was one fire in what 70 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: they call upcountry, and that is further up in the hills, 71 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: in the foothills of one of the volcanoes, and that 72 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: was where the first fire started. And I went up 73 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: to the point of origin yesterday and I looked at 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: how it got sucked down there through a vacuum in 75 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 2: a gulch, a very very messive gulch that goes down 76 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: and there are houses on both sides of that gulch. 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: And the point of origin looks like a downpower line 78 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: to me, and it looks like it sparked it and 79 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: pulled it down. There are still fire crews putting out 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: hotspots up there and small flames using helicopters and Bambi 81 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: buckets in Lahina, the fire had started and they said 82 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: it as you mentioned, they thought it was under control 83 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: at that point, but people were not paying attention to 84 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: spot fires. They weren't paying attention to the blowing embers. 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: And you all know, everyone listening knows that those embers 86 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: are some of the most deadliest causes of spot fires, 87 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: which grow into larger fires. That's something they did not 88 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: even see coming. They had small fires. Yeah, the fire 89 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: in front of me looks out, but they're not looks 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: completely distinguished or extinguished. But they don't account for the 91 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: fires that are just about a half a mile down 92 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: the road that are starting to smolder. And then by 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: the time it exploded into this conflagration in just this 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: massive wall of flame, there was nothing they could do. 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Do They think down power line started the Lahana fire. 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: That is the prevailing theory at this point. Now here's 97 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: the thing. Because of these pending lawsuits that have already 98 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: been filed. I'm told they were filed as soon as 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: this morning. I don't think we're going to get many 100 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: answers because they're all going to say because of pending litigation. 101 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: We can't really answer that question. I'm expecting that we're 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: hoping to get more answers from FEMA and from the 103 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor, who's having a press conference in the next hour. 104 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: But this just looks like there's no other cause. There 105 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: was no lightning on the island, and to have two fires, 106 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: actually there were four fires in total. There were two 107 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: smaller fires that were quickly extinguished, but the two larger fires, 108 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: the fire which is in the upcountry and the Lahina 109 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: fire down there, the deadly one that's I mean, those 110 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: are the fires that they suspect were caused by down 111 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: power lines. And you've seen a lot of video. I 112 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: think that you see those power lines just being whipped around, 113 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: and the big, massive power lines I saw up in 114 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: the hills yesterday looked pretty obvious to me. But we'll 115 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: see what the officials say. 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of people died in their cars trying 117 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: to see. 118 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 2: Well, this is another point of contention with the locals here. 119 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: When they realized they needed to get out. I'm told 120 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: now by a number of locals that the police department 121 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: was shutting down egress points of egress so that they 122 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: could control it. In one road out Seriously, Yeah, and 123 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: that is what they're saying that. I mean, these are 124 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I think six people have spoken with of 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: all had that same story. 126 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: They shut down exit roads so. 127 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: They could control the flow of traffic outbound. 128 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. 129 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I had the question when I heard everyone say, 130 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, the cops were shutting down egress points because 131 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: they needed to control the flow of traffic, and at 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: one point it just got too much and everyone got 133 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: over run. It doesn't seem like the local government and 134 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: the local emergency officials had the slightest idea what they 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: were doing. No, this is very unprecedented. They have many 136 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: red flag warnings over here, but they've never had wildfires 137 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: of this magnitude. I guess they had decades ago they 138 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: had a wildfire, but I mean, they've never had anything 139 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: at this level, and so they were just they were 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: ill prepared for the response. Now, when I'm hearing about 141 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: fire hydrants without water pressure, when I'm hearing about no 142 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: coordinated effort, no evacuation plan. And here's the thing, John, 143 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: in southern California, we are repeatedly beaten down with the 144 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: message of having an evacuation plan. Have a go kit, 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: have all your medicines and everything ready to go, have 146 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: a place for your pets, have a plan, have a plan, 147 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: have a plan. You know what. I don't even remember 148 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: what the phrase is to be ready, be ready goes 149 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: ready set go, the ready set Go program. They don't 150 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: have that here. They don't worry about wildfires here. They 151 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: worry about high winds. And that's it. So there's no 152 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: there's really no constant communication here about what to do 153 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: in the event of a wildfire. So people were completely 154 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: lost when it happened. And then you know as well 155 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: as I do, that that wildfire when you have the 156 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: right conditions, dry fuels, high winds, I mean, it's just 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: pure oxygen, and that the fire was just driving itself 158 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: and it was just plowing down thing in its path. 159 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: This number being thrown around that federal officials say nearly 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: one thousand people are missing. Now, did they think there's 161 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: another thousand dead bodies or these are people who got 162 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: out and they haven't been able to contact. 163 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: It's a combination of both. I mean, there are probably 164 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: people at the bottom of the ocean. There are probably 165 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: people that were floating around out the water that may 166 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: still be floating out in the water that were taken 167 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: out by the tide. There are people that are still 168 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: crouched down in homes, hidden in closets because they didn't 169 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: know what to do. I'm told that a great many 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: of the missing and presumed dead will be children and 171 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: elderly because the schools were closed that day, and a 172 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: lot of parents left their kids at home because they 173 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: worked two and three jobs to make ends meet, So 174 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: they leave their children at home and so. But the 175 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: parents couldn't get back in because the roads were closed 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: or the roads were clogged when the fire started. They 177 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: couldn't get back in to retrieve their children. 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Shocking stuff. Steve, thanks very much, you got a power 179 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: great report, Steve Gregory honest scene in Mary Maui for 180 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the file for the fire. We're going to talk more 181 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: about what Steve went through and some other details coming 182 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: up next and again two o'clock, Blake Trolley will be 183 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: here to talk about the Canoga Park Nordstrom attack by 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: that mob of thieves. And Rick Caruso ran for mayor 185 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: and his Americana shopping center in Glendale got ransacked by 186 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: another mob at Youve, Saint Laurent. It's like civilization is 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: crumbling right in front of us. John and Ken show, 188 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: Ken's Away Today. 189 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 190 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 191 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: We just had Steve Gregory on, who was reporting live 192 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: from Maui the big fire in Lahana, and I has 193 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: about half a dozen shocking things regarding this story. I mean, 194 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: you've probably seen all the video of the devastation that's 195 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: gone on, but the real weird part of this is 196 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: that the entire government seemed to have broken down, and 197 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: nobody in government was capable of doing the right thing 198 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: at all at any point while the fire was killing 199 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: so many people and destroying so many homes. Starts with, well, 200 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: it starts off for us with the power companies. Now, 201 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: the power companies here in California have caused more death 202 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: and more destruction than any single entity in this state. 203 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: And it took a lot of death and destruction before 204 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: they finally agreed that in a high wind situation, we're 205 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: going to shut down the power so that when the 206 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: power lines fall they won't start a fire, which seems basic, 207 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: but it took a lot of deaths before they did it. 208 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: They didn't do that in Hawaii, does the news not 209 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: make it to Hawaii. I mean, we've gone through dozens 210 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: of these situations. So while I understand maybe in Lahna 211 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: they didn't have a situation like this in recent memory, 212 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: the fire experts, the government experts, don't they go on 213 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,359 Speaker 1: junkets constantly to learn from other cities and other states experiences. 214 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, how much money do they spend flying around 215 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: the world, you know, to go on a fact finding mission. 216 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: They never found any facts about what to do when 217 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the winds are going to blow eighty miles an hour. 218 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Because they were blowing eighty miles an hour and they 219 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: had a similar effect to our San Ana wins. The 220 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: winds were getting funneled, they were hot, they were dry, 221 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: there was a combination of high pressure and low pressure. 222 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: There was a hurricane out to sea, and they were 223 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: getting eighty mile an hour winds and the grasses were 224 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: really dry. So that seems to be the moment where, hey, 225 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: you know what they do in California now, after they 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: killed hundreds of people, they turn off the power at 227 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: the electric companies didn't do that. They didn't have a 228 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: water system capable of putting out a fire. All the 229 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: hydrants were on very low water pressure. How does that happen? 230 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: How does that exist? So they got a huge power issue, 231 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: they got a huge water issue. And then even with that, 232 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: maybe the whole of the homes are going to burn, burn, 233 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: But at least people's lives could be saved if you 234 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: just flip on the fire alarm the siren so that 235 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: everybody knows to clear out of Lahena and the surrounding areas. 236 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: Just turn on the siren. Why do you have sirens? 237 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Who is the guy who didn't do that? Who is 238 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: the guy who didn't think of doing that? Who are 239 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: these people? What is it with people in government? What 240 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: is it with them? Hit the siren? How hard is it? 241 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: And then the police blocking off exit roads because they 242 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: wanted to control the flow. Control the flow. First of all, 243 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: the flow is controlled. There were so many people trying 244 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: to leave at once that the roads were congested and 245 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: people were trapped in their cars. Then they burned to 246 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: death in their cars. So why would you add to 247 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: that by closing other roads. I mean, Steve is going 248 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: step by step through through the whole story, and I'm 249 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: thinking they did nothing right, They did absolutely nothing. Boh. 250 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Maybe they had good intentions though, right as any apologist 251 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: used a good intention line. Yet I'm talking about completely 252 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: failing your population. They're paid to do this. This is 253 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: their job. You work in emergency management, you work in fire, 254 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: you work in police. Your job is to mitigate these 255 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: disasters because you can't control the weather. Maybe somebody woke 256 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: up at the electric company. You might have prevented this fire. 257 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: But once the fire started. I don't understand what do 258 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: they do with all their meetings. These people work, you know, 259 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: fifty two weeks a year. They have constant to meetings 260 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: and and seminars and to produce powerpoints, and they official 261 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: reports and training sessions and rehearsals and staging. And this 262 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: what did they do was all that rehearsal and knowledge eyes. 263 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean they have volcanoes there, they have hurricanes, they 264 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: have tsunamis. I just am just stunned. This was according 265 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: to one professor of fire science, Crystal cold and it 266 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: you Siemer said said, this looks like a no notice 267 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: evacuation which occurred here in California not that long ago, 268 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: the campfire that burned Paradise down, remember Paradise. Same thing 269 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: they didn't They didn't have enough exit routes out of 270 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the town. A lot of it is the way these 271 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: towns are designed. They're there, These towns are created inside 272 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: inside nature, and they never built to exit roads in 273 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: case there was a massive fire, and then they don't turn, 274 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, off the electric lines. The Wine count the 275 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Wine Country fires in twenty seventeen had a similar situation. 276 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: The also if you this is from the La Times, right, 277 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: of course it is, as I was reading through one 278 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: of the La Times accounts. Eventually they blamed it on Europeans. Yeah, 279 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: that's right. Apparently many years ago Europeans brought non native 280 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: grasses into Hawaii. So eventually it's interesting, they're not they're 281 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: not going to blame the electric companies. Oh, of course, 282 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: climate change, right, climate change and European settlers, that's what 283 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: caused this. No, it wasn't climate change in European settlers. 284 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, those grasses had been there for 285 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: a very long time, so you could have gotten rid 286 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: of them by now. What happened is you had an 287 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: unusual weather event and nobody responded to it properly. All 288 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: the taxpayer paid government staff that's there to help made 289 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: everything worse. They did not have a backup plan for 290 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: what to do when strong winds knock out the electricity 291 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: systems and communication systems. Yeah, that was the excuse that 292 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: the Hawaiian Emergency Management gave. It's like, well, yeah, we 293 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: didn't turn on the sirens, but we did send out 294 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: warnings via cell phone, except the cell phones weren't working. 295 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: There was no service, the cell phone towers were damaged. 296 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: The electricity was cut after the fires burned through, so 297 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: nobody was going to get the warning. If there's no 298 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: plausible way to get an electronic message through, then you 299 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: have to make a really loud noise and the public 300 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: should know what that really loud noise means. You know. 301 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: That's why maybe have a rehearsal once a year. It's like, 302 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: on Tuesday at five o'clock, we're going to set off 303 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: the sirens, and that's a dress rehearsal in case there 304 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: was a bad fires. It's not that hard. I think 305 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I think an eight year old could have figured this out. 306 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: More coming up John and Ken's show on kf I. 307 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 308 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: Am six forty. 309 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Coming up after two o'clock, We're going to spend quite 310 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: some time on the two Big mob robberies that went 311 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: on in Los Angeles area over the last few days. 312 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: You's son Lass store at the Americana last Tuesday there 313 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: was a mob robbery and they ran off with armfuls 314 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: of designer handbags. It is not true that Deborah Mark 315 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: was seen as part of the bomb. That's see. I 316 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: was almost there. You're denying that. No, I'm denying it. 317 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: I was. I was planning on going to the mall 318 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: last minute. I changed my mind. You were going to 319 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: go to the one in Penga. That's my drum. Yeah, 320 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: well they really did a number in your Nordstrum Saturday. 321 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: They might have stolen up to one hundred thousand dollars 322 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: worth of expensive stuff. So it's two flash mob robberies 323 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: in a week. And we're going to talk to Rick Caruso, 324 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: who ran for Bere to try to help fix this. 325 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: And he's going to be on at two thirty. And 326 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: it was the East Solauran store at his shopping mall 327 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: in Glendale that was robbed. Also next hour, The New 328 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: York Post just posted an exclusive. The headline is Liberals 329 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: turned back on woke LA prosecutor George Gascone as smash 330 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: and grab robbery sore, and I'll tell you about that 331 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: because that just came out about twenty minutes ago. So 332 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Blake trolleyon to tell us about the 333 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: north Strom situation, Rick Caruso to talk about his mall 334 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: getting robbed, and then we'll tell you about how all 335 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the left wing nuts that brought gascon into power are 336 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: tired of being terrorized, among other stupid things that the 337 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: government is doing. It of course, has tried to force 338 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: is actually literally not trying to literally forcing people into 339 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: electric cars here in California over the next what eleven 340 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: plus years. You're not gonna be able to buy a 341 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: gas powered car by twenty thirty. And we've talked about 342 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: this many times, how there's there's no charging infrastructure that 343 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: could handle tens of millions of electric cars being purchased, 344 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: and occasionally somebody, somebody's story on what it's really like 345 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: out there makes the news. This came through Yahoo and 346 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: I think Fox News. It's about a Canadian man. He's 347 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: calling electric vehicles the biggest scam of modern times. His 348 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: name is Dalbar Baya. He lives in the Winnipeg area. 349 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: Now he dropped eighty five thousand dollars on a Ford 350 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: F one fifty lightning EV So that's an electric pickup 351 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: truck eighty five thousand dollars. And he told Fox Business 352 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: that he wanted the pick up for work, but he 353 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: wanted something for recreation to drive to his cabin or 354 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: go fishing, and he wanted to be a responsible citizen 355 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: and have it environmentally friendly vehicle. Well, here's what the 356 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: reality is like. He buys this pickup truck, but he's 357 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: forced to install two chargers, one at work and one 358 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: at home for ten thousand dollars. Then to accommodate the charger, 359 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: he had to upgrade his home's electric panel for six 360 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And then after that, he got into a 361 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: minor accident light repair on the front bumper, took the 362 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: vehicle to the body shop and I don't know what 363 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: this problem was, but he didn't get it back for 364 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: six months. He kept calling an emailing Ford and they 365 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: were of no help. Nobody rants of the phone, nobody 366 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: replied to his email. So he gets the truck repaired 367 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: and now our friend dal Bear takes his family on 368 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: a fourteen hundred mile road trip from Winnipeg to Chicago 369 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: fast charging stations cost more than gas for the same mileage, 370 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: and the fast charging stations still only charge the EV's 371 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: up to ninety percent, so ten percent of the charge 372 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: never materializes the family. First stop was in Fargo, North Dakota, 373 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: and get this, took two hours and fifty six dollars 374 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to charge his vehicle from ten percent to ninety percent. 375 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: Imagine that now you stop for gas, it's about five 376 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: to seven minutes you stop to charge at ev it's 377 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: it's this fast charging two hours and only got was 378 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen miles out of it. Second stop 379 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: was in Albertville, Minnesota. The charger was free, but it 380 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: was broken. He calls the phone number on the charging station, 381 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: no help. They drove to another charging station in Elk River, Minnesota. 382 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: The charger there was broken as well. The sheer helplessness 383 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: was mind boggling. He's got a vehicle that he cannot 384 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: power because there is not a working charging station along 385 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: his route. There's two broken ones, he says. My kids 386 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: and wife are really worried, really stressed out. It was 387 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: late afternoon. We were really stuck, hungry and heartbroken. He 388 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: had to have his electric vehicle towed to a ford 389 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: dealership at Elk River, and then he rented a regular 390 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: gas powered vehicle to complete the trip to Chicago, and 391 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: on the way back they picked up the Ford F 392 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: one to fifty. He goes, it was in the shop 393 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: for six months. I can't take it to my late cabin. 394 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: I can't take it for off grid camping. I can't 395 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: take it even for a road trip. I can only 396 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: drive in the city. It's the biggest scam of modern times. 397 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: And he says that the companies and the government are 398 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: lying about the electricity range, the range of the electric vehicle. 399 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: He goes, the actual thing they promised is not even close, 400 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: not even fifty percent. And once you buy it, you're 401 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: stuck with it, and you have to carry huge losses 402 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: to get rid of it, and there's nobody there to 403 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: help you. Ford told Fox that driving rangers can be 404 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: impacted by weather and geography and acknowledge some of the 405 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: challenges facing the industry. Some of the challenges facing the industry. 406 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: The challenge is you run out of energy and you 407 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: can't go anywhere. This poor guy and his family were 408 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: down to twelve miles. Twelve miles, what are you supposed 409 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: to do? He had to get it towed, and I 410 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: don't understand. And you know this, this is Newsome's doing 411 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: here in California. There's not a charging network that can 412 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: sustain all the electric cars. And we've been talking about 413 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: this now for a couple of years and nothing changes. 414 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: And we got oh, we got more coming up because 415 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: they had a complete meltdown of the self driving car 416 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Apparently there was some disruption in the 417 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: system in the system and quite a few self driving 418 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: cars all stopped at the same time and tied up 419 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: traffic all over the place on Friday night in San Francisco. 420 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: This is the company called Cruise. They have driverless vehicles. 421 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Taxis supposed to call you want to get a ride, 422 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: they come and send you a driverless car. Well, they 423 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: all went dead at the same time. Tell you more 424 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: of it coming up. Johnny Can Show Canfi. 425 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 426 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 3: Am six forty. 427 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Ron the radio from one until four, and then after 428 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: four o'clock you listen to the iHeart app for the 429 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: Johnny Can on demand podcast. You pick up anything you missed, 430 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: and then you can listen to it all all day 431 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: night and after two o'clock Blake trolley on the smash 432 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: and grab flash mob that attacked the Nordstroms in Kenoda Park. 433 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: And after two thirty we're gonna have Rick Caruso former 434 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: mayoral candidates, not enough of you voted for, and his 435 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: shopping center of the Americana and Glendale was busted into 436 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: by thieves that ransacked the East Sant Laurent store last 437 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: week as well, So we'll get into that now. You know, 438 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: the government in San Francisco is trying to push these 439 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: electric vehicles and they have given a company called Cruise 440 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: the right to have these driverlests. They call them robo taxis, 441 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: and they go around San Francisco picking people up, giving 442 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: them rides and there's no drivers. It's fully automated. But 443 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: there was a problem. Over the weekend there was a 444 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: big music festival in Golden Gate Park called Outside Lands. 445 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: And have you ever gone to a concert or a 446 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: sporting event and your cell phone doesn't work because everybody's 447 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: on their cell phone at the same time. Everybody's taking 448 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: photos and sending photos to their friends, and it overloads 449 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: the system. If you go to Dodger Stadium, the hardest 450 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: thing to do is to send a message to somebody 451 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: was at a concert Saturday night and I had that 452 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: same problem. Yeah, because you'll have fifty or seventy thousand 453 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: people all doing because nobody actually watches a game where 454 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: a concert anymore. They just videotape it and then send 455 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: it to their friends. No, no, no, one's just sitting 456 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: there and enjoying them. So you have this overload of 457 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: the cell phone system, and Crews, which is owned by 458 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: General Motors, all their cars in that region suddenly stopped 459 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: working and it created a traffic jam. Ten robotaxis alone 460 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: on Grant Avenue in North Beach. It's not just their 461 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: cars broke down. Their cars broke down and backed up 462 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: everyone else on the block. There was ten of them 463 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: on one particular stretch, and the crew's administrator said, well, 464 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: it was wireless connectivity issues because of an overload of 465 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: cell phone usage at the concert. But they never thought 466 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: of this before, It never happened before. It appears to 467 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: be an inherent flaw in driverless car technology, which means 468 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: that if there's an emergency and cell service goes down, 469 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: the driverless cars will stop in place and the police 470 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: and fire personnel won't be able to get around the city. Now, 471 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: imagine you have a crazy fire in San Francisco and 472 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: the cell phone service goes down and then everyone's trapped. 473 00:30:53,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Nobody can leave. I'm in in Lahina, the cell phone 474 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: system was down so people couldn't get the emergency messages. 475 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: According to US, this guy's name is Peskin. He's some administrator. 476 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: Let me see, oh, supervisor, Aaron Peskin. He says it's 477 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: a scary revelation that if the cell phone coverage goes out, 478 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: they can't communicate with their cars. At the same time, 479 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: the city would try would be trying to maintain order. 480 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: So if there's some natural disaster in San Francisco, like 481 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: let's say an earthquake, right and you know we've seen 482 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: what happens during earthquakes at San Francisco, and everybody wants 483 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: to flee, you can't because this stupid cruise robotaxi is 484 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: stuck in front of you. And even if you get 485 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: by the first one, there might be ten more on 486 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: that street. In fact, Peskin said, if you have an earthquake, 487 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: they'll be sitting like bricks on your street and there's 488 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: no way to community kate with them. At the precise 489 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: moment you need them, so you could call for this 490 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: robotaxi to take you out of the out of the 491 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: danger zone. But that thing's not coming. And of course 492 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: executives at Cruise did not respond for a comment. The 493 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: mayor did not respond to a comment. Who else didn't comment. 494 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: The California Public Utilities Commission, they had just voted on 495 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: Thursday to lift all the restrictions for Cruise and for 496 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: another company Weimo. They were allowed full commercialization in the city, 497 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: even though city officials were protesting. They did this on 498 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday night. The robotaxis all seize up. So clearly, 499 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: like the electric car story that we told you about 500 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, that poor guy trying to take 501 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: his family from Winnipeg to Chicago, this technology isn't there yet. 502 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: There's no there's no charging stations in some places, it 503 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: takes too long, the range isn't very much. And now 504 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: if you are within a certain distance of a large 505 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: crowded event like a concert or a stadium, the electric 506 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: electric robotaxis here are gonna stop dead. So you know, 507 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: I understand things take time and decades and it's a 508 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: long trial and error process, but I don't understand the 509 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: obsessive push when it's not ready. Clearly, all this stuff 510 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: is not ready. The next ten years are gonna be 511 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, all right. Coming up after two o'clock, 512 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: Blake Trolley's going to be on and he's going to 513 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: have all the details of the latest smash and grab 514 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: flash mob that went through the Nordstroms into pang A Mall. 515 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: If you've seen the video, it is pretty scary. All 516 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: these goons dressed in black clothing and hoodies and causing 517 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: a lot of destruction, stealing maybe up to one hundred 518 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Oh, and then they spray. They had bear 519 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: spray on them. One guy got hit with bear spray. 520 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: This is becoming the most uncivilized place in the country. 521 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't see these stories coming out of other cities 522 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: the way they come out of here. There's no law anymore. 523 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Rick Crusoe on at two thirty to 524 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: talk about it because his shopping center in Glendale got 525 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: hit too. Last week. 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