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Speaker 1: Here we go lively first hour. I told you things

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Speaker 1: are breaking today. That Jalen Herd story is crazy. Lakers

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Speaker 1: fifteen and two in March, a Major League baseball umpire

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Speaker 1: who's had a rough week. O Taani is unbelievable. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you I I'll have Nick right on in a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. The media may be hyperbolic, but Tiger

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Speaker 1: Woods ended up being. When Tiger Woods, there was all

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Speaker 1: this discussion about he's going to be unbelievable. I remember

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Speaker 1: being a local sportscaster and people coming up to me

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Speaker 1: when I would go out, and you know, Shank Drives,

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Speaker 1: why do you guys talk about Tiger Woods. The dude

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Speaker 1: won a US Open at Pebble Beach by fifteen strokes

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Speaker 1: and he was like twenty one. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: when Otani is better than I was told he was

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Speaker 1: going to be Tiger Woods in his prime. Was better

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Speaker 1: than the media guaranteed he would be. Wemby is twenty

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Speaker 1: two years old. He's better than I thought he would be.

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Speaker 1: So when anybody says, oh, you guys are hyping stuff up,

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Speaker 1: Tiger better than you would have guessed in his early

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Speaker 1: twenties he would go to Pebble Beach and win a

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Speaker 1: Major over the world's best golfers by fifteen strokes. Tiger

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Speaker 1: for ten years. There was a ten year period where

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Speaker 1: between the Sopranos and Tiger Woods in majors, Sunday night

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Speaker 1: was better during that season than the end season. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was you just put you had to be

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Speaker 1: around a TV on Sundays Tiger to major in the Sopranos. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just saw this record setting NCAA tournament viewership continues.

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Speaker 1: Apparently Duke and Yukon CBS Sports is saying this and

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Speaker 1: TNT most watched tournament game Duke Yukon since nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: a Yukon Duke peak with nineteen million viewers. Oh interesting,

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Speaker 1: despite no Cinderella team. Yeah, David versus Goliath is a

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Speaker 1: fun story. Goliath versus Goliath and the Good Old Days

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Speaker 1: sold more tickets. I don't want glass slippers in March.

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Speaker 1: I want Jordan brand sneakers. I want big brands. I

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Speaker 1: want Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs. My first day twenty years ago,

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Speaker 1: it was almost twenty years ago today, it was I

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Speaker 1: think it was April. I went on on syndicated radio,

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Speaker 1: first show. I said, I said, you don't like underdogs.

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Speaker 1: You say you do, but you like favorites. You go

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Speaker 1: to watch Tom Cruise the movie theater, not Film noir.

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Speaker 1: Right now, people go to Vegas to watch you two

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Speaker 1: at the sphere, not the indie band. And this ratings indicates,

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Speaker 1: once again, for the first time ever.

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Speaker 2: On the show was extraordinarily right.

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Speaker 1: Yep, on Wednesday. I usually do that Monday. Let's do

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Speaker 1: it on a Wednesday. Give me one.

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Speaker 2: More where Colin was right from day one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you stop telling me you love Cinderella.

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 1: It's cute. Hopefully you guys are coming around to my side,

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Speaker 1: because when James Madison made the college football playoffs finally

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Speaker 1: everybody was like, what the hell are we doing with this?

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Speaker 1: Give me a break. I mean, you got SEC teams

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Speaker 1: and Big ten teams, and you got big brands the Avengers,

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, Otani and the Dodgers, Michigan, the fighting LINEI

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Speaker 1: Let's bring out first things first, Nick right, the NIXT

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Speaker 1: boy is he exploded? He is so popular? Now where

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Speaker 1: did that come from? Well, you just I see everywhere

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Speaker 1: it's poker. Oh, yes, poker. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the podcast got great bosses there.

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Speaker 1: You know it is.

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Speaker 4: It's a collective effort. Good to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you.

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Speaker 1: I threw this by the show this morning, by the staff.

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Speaker 5: We know.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid is part of my home success. Probably the

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick, he was a podcast host a year and

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Speaker 1: How Comes Spolster is not winning titles? They don't have

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Speaker 1: the guys that Reddick's proving that it's a player's league.

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Speaker 1: It always has been in coaching's overrated in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: I do think it's more meaningful though than coaching or

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Speaker 4: there are certain coaches can It's more often that a

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Speaker 4: as long as his own personality foibles that we've known

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Speaker 1: He was at Duke don't get in his own way.

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Speaker 4: But the biggest reason I'm glad we're starting here that

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Speaker 4: that when he comes up on this show, he's either

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've broken out, even you know

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Speaker 4: the Alex English comp That guy scored a bunch, didn't

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Speaker 1: I know he was your favorite player.

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Speaker 4: And all Luca's done is win Player of the Month

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 4: He was forty five a game in October, granted just

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Speaker 4: he has lit the league a blaze every single night.

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Speaker 4: And what I my frustration was some of the Luca

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Speaker 4: know we'll get into, is folks are I think pretending like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we thought the Lakers would win fifty four games and

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Speaker 4: be the three seed. Nobody did They've smashed their over already.

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Speaker 4: They have the same number of wins as Boston. They

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Speaker 4: Austin and Bron have missed forty seven games this year.

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Speaker 1: It's because of Luca.

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Speaker 4: He is that transcendently great of an offensive player. And

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Speaker 4: I know it can irk some folks because he does

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Speaker 1: Colin, Yeah, I wouldn't deny that. So I said before

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Speaker 1: the hype. I mean, give me a break. If I

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Speaker 1: high school twenty eight a game. I'm watching Wemby. Okay,

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Speaker 1: forget the defense where he literally has like forty five

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Speaker 1: There are multiple things that Wemby does Lebron couldn't do,

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Speaker 1: and I never thought I would. Defensively, Lebron can't physically,

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Speaker 1: cutting to the basket, if you don't throw bodies at that,

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Speaker 1: what's over. The possession is over. I don't know how.

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Speaker 4: You know, now we've gone to Now we've gone too

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Speaker 4: far again, Now we've now we listened this. Certainly, Defensively,

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Speaker 4: Wimby is en root to being the greatest defensive player,

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Speaker 4: if not ever, certainly since Bill Russell, like that would be,

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Speaker 4: seen in my lifetime as a chem olajuwan. The second

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Speaker 1: And you could argue.

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Speaker 4: That Wimby right now is already better than both of them. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so like that part, that part is undeniable. But Wimby's

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Speaker 4: here is my and again I think Wimby right now

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Speaker 4: is third in the MVP race. I think the Spurs

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Speaker 4: overachieved in an insane way. Nobody thought they would flirt

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Speaker 4: with sixty wins, that they'd be the two seed.

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Speaker 1: But you are now.

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Speaker 4: What you just told me is Wimby already can do

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Speaker 4: things offensively that peak Lebron James couldn't do. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what a single one of those things is. This year,

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Speaker 4: Wimby is averaging a whole three more points, three then

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Speaker 4: Lebron in year twenty three, Lebron in third. You know

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Speaker 4: a game. Wimby, who I think you're already comparing to

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Speaker 4: Tiger at Pebble is at twenty four game And like

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Speaker 4: Wimby is not yet a better offensive player, just offensive

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Speaker 4: than prime Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Let's be fair, Lebron was playing forty six minutes. Wemby's

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Speaker 1: but they are smartly protecting him because seven to four

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Speaker 4: So I'm so glad you brought up the minutes because

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Speaker 4: Wimby this year is one hundredth in the NBA in minutes. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he has played five hundred fewer minutes than the guy

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Speaker 4: I was talking about earlier, Luca, which is the equivalent of,

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Speaker 4: So that gap in Wemby's defensive impact versus Luca compared

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Speaker 1: Because the Eagles go through so many different coordinators. You

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Speaker 1: He will always have that.

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Speaker 4: You can never ask questions can you win with Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 4: lot of noise in that building about Jalen having some

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Speaker 4: culpability for what went wrong last year.

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Speaker 1: Nick right, long segment, we just you know, you made

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Speaker 1: a couple good points, so I kept you.

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Speaker 4: You know what, That's why I strived. This is one

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Speaker 4: percent better every day.

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Speaker 1: Colin. Great to see you, my friend. They cry it

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Speaker 1: first things first, and a heck of a podcast as well,

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Speaker 1: for a very reputable company. I will say that the

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Speaker 1: other thing, and I think we all admit this now,

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Speaker 1: Tua Kyler, Murray, Jalen Hurts, Russell Wilson. Size matters at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at that video when we show Jalen Hurts video.

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Speaker 1: I mean he looks a foot shorter, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: mocking it. It's just it's really hard to see over

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And we went through this

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Speaker 1: era where it's like, well, it doesn't matter. I like

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Speaker 1: my quarterbacks, like I like my furniture, big and hard

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Speaker 1: to move. I like big guys. I like six two

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Speaker 1: and a half, six three and a half, two four.

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Speaker 1: I like Fernando Mendoza six five, two forty five. Big

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Speaker 1: trunky can see over the line. That's what I like.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, good stuff from Nick Right today, our guy

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Speaker 1: Lance Zerline, NFL draft analyst. He's money dad coach in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He'll be joining us. Last hour. Mark Cuban

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Speaker 1: says he regrets selling the MAVs to the people he

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Speaker 1: sold the maps to. I'm not sure if I buy that.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's go back to the as everybody loves

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Speaker 6: talking about a.

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Speaker 3: Team that went fifteen and two in March.

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Speaker 6: And by the way I drilled down, almost half those

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Speaker 6: wins were against playoff teams. And also, hey, besides Lucas

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Speaker 6: forty two piece, how about Lebron passing Kareem abdul Jabbar,

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Speaker 6: my dad's favorite player in NBA history for most wins

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Speaker 6: in the regular season and postseason combined.

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Speaker 3: Lebron was kind of quiet last night.

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Speaker 6: A couple thunderous dunks fourteen, five and six.

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Speaker 3: Here are the most wins by player on the screen.

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Speaker 6: Interesting two Lakers, followed by Tim Duncan, the Chief, Robert Parrish,

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Speaker 6: and then Carl the Mailman Malone. Lebron just stacking records

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Speaker 6: in NBA lore. Basically, he has all the important ones,

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Speaker 6: which is why I have him as the goat.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Bill Russell got eleven titles, that's the most.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, when there was like nine teams in

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Speaker 3: the league. Whoopde damn. Do you know what's the big deal?

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Speaker 6: Here's Lebron James career accolades on the screen for you,

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Speaker 6: big guy. Games played, wins, points, assists, all Stars. I

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Speaker 6: don't know why, all Stars, American assists.

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Speaker 1: Got a very redeemable career, absolutely redeemable career.

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Speaker 6: He's been a gold mine for this show, for Colin

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Speaker 6: Coward and his brand.

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Speaker 1: I have been a Lebron fan decades. I'm a Lebron fan.

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Speaker 1: I do think he fits eventually better elsewhere. Unless he

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Speaker 1: takes a massive pay cut, then he's certainly welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, real quick to go back.

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Speaker 6: You know, you talked about Lebron and the Lakers chances

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs. You mentioned Minnesota as a scary team.

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Speaker 6: So I spent the better part of an hour analyzing

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Speaker 6: that series last year against Minnesota. So, yeah, the Lakers

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Speaker 6: got smoked, but it was different. Lebron was like the

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Speaker 6: number two guy clearly last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Austin Reeves was three and.

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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, he was hurt.

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Speaker 6: He had a major toe injury that almost required surgery,

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Speaker 6: so his numbers were way down.

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Speaker 1: So he had a major tow injury that almost required surgery.

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Speaker 1: That's why they lost the series.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he let me finish, so he was not

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Speaker 3: as good as he was in the regular season.

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Speaker 6: And obviously the Lakers' top seven guys, Dorian Finney, Smith,

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Speaker 6: Gabe Vincent, they were being relied upon heavily. Now you

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Speaker 6: got Marcus Smart, who's a champion. Jake Laavia, I mean

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Speaker 6: you got why are you laughing? DeAndre Ayton integral role players.

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Speaker 6: I'm not worried about the Timberwolves. Lakers swept them in

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Speaker 6: the regular season pretty handily. No, Nikhil Alexander Walker from Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: We know Chris Finch is a friend of the show.

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Speaker 6: Is one of my favorite guys.

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Speaker 1: Is Aunt still playing? Is Randall still playing? Is Jade

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Speaker 1: McDaniels to.

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Speaker 3: Glad you brought up Randall?

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Speaker 6: He had singularly the greatest series in playoff history that

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Speaker 6: he's ever had against the Lakers. He never shoots that

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Speaker 6: well from three or from the field.

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Speaker 1: Why would he Because they can't defend. They're spending so

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Speaker 1: much time trying to stop and so Randall was open.

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Speaker 1: Randal's always been a more than capable score. Julius Randall

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Speaker 1: has had a very nice career, hadn't had a lot

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Speaker 1: of great playoffs series. But the reason he scored against

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Speaker 1: the Lakers, they didn't have anybody that could shut down

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Speaker 1: Ant so they had to build their defensive game plans

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Speaker 1: around stopping him. Julius Randall gets thrown out like he

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Speaker 1: can't play. I mean, what is his career average? Eighteen?

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Speaker 1: He's a bag. I mean it's higher than that.

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Speaker 6: He's really hired that, but it's a shooting percentage where

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Speaker 6: he just will take bad shots, miss a lot of shots.

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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, Marcus Smart, go.

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Speaker 6: Look at how he locked up as a kid. Said.

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Speaker 6: They put the seat belt on Anthony Edwards in the

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Speaker 6: last meeting. He was like, one of fourteen. You like

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Speaker 6: the seat belt? I do that sometimes in league games.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I am, you're a real pleasure. You're putting the

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Speaker 1: seat belt on. Who the other five or four guy?

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Speaker 3: Oh? You love those digs eight? Personally, I like the Jets.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's move on to George Pickens, who nobody

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Speaker 6: can put a seat belt on. That Guy's unbelievable. He's

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Speaker 6: pretty dominant. Also, he's probably not showing up for voluntary OTAs.

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Speaker 6: Jerry Jones gave this incredible SoundBite when asked about pikets.

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Speaker 5: There's no issue with me with talking to agents. I

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Speaker 5: need to do a better job of not getting well

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Speaker 5: Daddy said I could have it, and him going to

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Speaker 5: Mama and Mama saying that he said I could have it.

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Speaker 5: We've got to get on the same page, and I

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Speaker 5: have something to do with that. It always works out.

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Speaker 5: If he worked without an agent, he'd saved a lot

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Speaker 5: of money.

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Speaker 1: Do you anticipate going into with me?

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is happening again.

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Speaker 1: Con Well, agents you know they charge a fee.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to know who Pickens agent is? Who

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Speaker 3: David mulligetto?

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Speaker 6: Oh, same guy who got into it with Jerry over

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Speaker 6: Michael Parsons. So clearly he's making this personal. And you know,

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Speaker 6: in the political space now everything is personal. Who's Jerry

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Speaker 6: Jones has a personal issue with this guy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but who's got the power?

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Speaker 3: Well, don't tell me it's Jerry Jones, is it? Jerry?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean George Pickens?

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Speaker 3: Really what power.

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Speaker 6: Does he have just because he's a billionaire. He doesn't

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Speaker 6: want a damn thing.

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Speaker 3: He is the.

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Speaker 6: Longest championship playoff drought in the NFC, longer than the

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Speaker 6: Panther has.

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Speaker 1: Got the Saints. He's got C. D. Lamb, He's got

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Speaker 1: a number one. There's always a dozen wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: college who can come and play every year. The agents

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Speaker 1: don't have the leverage. I mean, and they're really good

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Speaker 1: players like JSN the GM signed them. There's never a hit.

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald didn't have contract. Many contract disputes. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're a great Aaron Donald, you know

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, you figure it out. I you know, if

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Speaker 1: it's owner and agent. I don't want to hear the

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Speaker 1: agents got the power.

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Speaker 6: Sounds a lot like what Jerry was saying when they

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Speaker 6: moved off Micah Parsons. Oh yeah, we got the power

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Speaker 6: at a lot of defensive end ed rushers out there.

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Speaker 3: How'd that work out?

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Speaker 6: Now they're they're trying to get Max Crosby for they

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Speaker 6: see Bruce Feldman's Did you see Bruce Feldman's.

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Speaker 3: Mock draft just dropped?

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Speaker 6: He had the Cowboys trading up to get David Bailey

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Speaker 6: at three. That's how desperate they are for a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's a mock draft. Second of all,

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Speaker 1: how did the Packers do with Micah Parsons? Oh seventh

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Speaker 1: and then they didn't last long?

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Speaker 6: They were great until he busted up his leg and

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Speaker 6: he was out for the season. I mean, well, listen,

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Speaker 6: I know we like Jerry Jones, and you know he's

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Speaker 6: had a great run. He's a rich guy. He's just pushing.

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Speaker 3: All the wrong buttons.

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Speaker 6: Now you're needling the agent of Pickens, who you already

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Speaker 6: got into it with six months ago and lost.

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons a battle. By the way, he lost.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe you're defending you, you and your billionaire

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Speaker 6: ilk you were rich guys all hang out.

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Speaker 3: What do they call coastal elites?

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Speaker 1: The oil money?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Final story is the New York Giants your team

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Speaker 6: of destiny? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: For twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: So John Harball has been taking some heat because allegedly,

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Speaker 6: you know, Joe Shane has no power. Now he's the

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Speaker 6: GM in name only. But at the league meetings, Harba

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Speaker 6: was talking about how happy he is with the partnership

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Speaker 6: and they're working together and he's really saying all the

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Speaker 6: right day. Look there they are, Colin. It's just one

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Speaker 6: happy family. It's all peachy in New York.

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait. I'm telling you there are two teams in

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Speaker 1: the draft I'm fascinated by. Are the Giants, who I

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Speaker 1: think should move down, and the Dolphins, who I think

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Speaker 1: should move up. I think the Giants draft is, do

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Speaker 1: Giants need a right tackle? They're seven in the first

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Speaker 1: two rounds they can get they don't need. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if the Utah tackle f Andoh is worthy

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Speaker 1: of their pick. He's closer to ten, twelve, thirteen. I

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Speaker 1: would love to see the Giants trade back five six

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Speaker 1: spots get another third round pick, fourth round pick, and

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Speaker 1: I would love to see the Dolphins go up and

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Speaker 1: get you know, Carnel Tait if they don't need a

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Speaker 1: running back. It's about the only thing they don't need

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback in a running back. But the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: have four third round picks. Would I give up one

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Speaker 1: to go get the best right tackle available? Absolutely, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to see. I'd like to see the Dolphins use

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Speaker 1: a third round pick one of their four, move up

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Speaker 1: just a couple of spots and go get that right tackle.

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Speaker 1: If Jeremiah Love Caleb Downs like a real can't miss guy.

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Speaker 6: So there's talk that the Giants are interested in Caleb

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Speaker 6: Downs because of what Harbaugh's success with that defense was

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Speaker 6: with Kyle Hamilton from Hamilton and then you know the

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Speaker 6: whole linebacker situation. Sonny Styles is being pegged there. But

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Speaker 6: this Giant stuff is interesting, Colin. When I did my

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Speaker 6: list of Jalen Hurts teams, I had yes and then

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Speaker 6: I had maybe's we'll see after the season. And the

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Speaker 6: Giants are a maybe because I don't know what Jackson

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Speaker 6: Dart's going to be And if they're like a seven

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Speaker 6: win team and they don't make the playoffs, I think

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Speaker 6: they could go hunting for a quarterback now in the

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Speaker 6: division's tough, but I mean Jackson Dart, you think he's

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Speaker 6: taking them to the promised Land.

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Speaker 1: I think Jackson Dart can win the division.

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Speaker 2: Next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw the story on Jalen Hurs, didn't you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so rank the quarterbacks in the NFC East while

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Speaker 3: we're on.

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Speaker 1: It, Jaden Daniels, Dak by the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, Jalen.

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Speaker 6: Hurt If you had said Dart I had a I

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Speaker 6: would literally walk off the set. Jalen Hurts was a

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl MVP, like fifteen months ago.

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles beat Tom Brady in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It was like eight years ago. I'm talking fifteen months ago.

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Speaker 6: So Jalen Hurdson now behind Jackson Dart cow Herd. Come on, bro,

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Speaker 6: I thought you were having a great show with it.

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Speaker 3: You were pitching a.

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Speaker 6: Perfect, perfect game earlier, and now you're just hemorrhaging. There

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Speaker 6: are warming up guys in the bullpen right now with

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Speaker 6: that Jackson Dart take.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Jimack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line.

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Speaker 1: News Mark Cuban saying it, I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: buying it.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: Weekdays and Noone Easter nin am Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 6: Saturday night is Baseball Night on Fox. This week we

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Speaker 6: got Pete Crow Armstrong and the Cubs versus Jose Ramirez

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Speaker 6: and the Guardians, or Ronald Acunya Junior and the Braves

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Speaker 6: against the Diamondbacks. Baseball Night in America Saturday at seven

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Speaker 6: Eastern only on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Huh, he's got a little text from a source. Hmmm mmmmmm.

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Speaker 3: We guess j mack is right about Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: No. So, first of all, this NBA draft, you and

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Speaker 1: I agree, is going to be the best in forever.

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Speaker 1: The team, the player that is really interesting this Keaton Woggler,

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Speaker 1: oh six to six guard for Illinois. The Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 1: have the number six pick. He would be a perfect

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Speaker 1: fit with Cooper fla he is. I mean, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you so, I think the Dallas Mavericks future six six

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Speaker 1: combole guard and I mean like getting better, ascending fast

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Speaker 1: from the best conference, Big ten. So I think Dallas's

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Speaker 1: future is great. Cooper Flag could be the face of

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Speaker 1: the league by you know, two years. He and Wemby

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Speaker 1: and I think this Keaton Woe Woggler would be an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable pick at six for the Mavericks. Very excited. And

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Speaker 1: I like Mark Cuban a lot. I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: If he ran for president, I'd consider voting for him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's really smart. I think the company he

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Speaker 1: started to cut pharmaceutical costs is one of the great

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Speaker 1: businesses in American history. He is in Wall Street. There's

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Speaker 1: an understood reality that he made one of the ten

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Speaker 1: great moves of all time with Yahoo and broadcast Net

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Speaker 1: his company. He's a very smart guy, much smarter than me.

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Speaker 1: But I've been hearing this lately. You know, I regret

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Speaker 1: selling the Mavericks to the people I sold it to.

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Speaker 1: He made twelve and a half times the money he

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Speaker 1: bought it for. Brilliant guy. I couldn't be happier. I

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Speaker 1: think he's one of the good rich guys. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the nice guys. But here he wasn't a pod.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy this. Here we go.

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Speaker 8: If fans don't like what you're doing or the team's

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Speaker 8: not doing well, you're the worst human being on the

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Speaker 8: planet and they treat.

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Speaker 6: You that way.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any regret?

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Speaker 8: I don't regret at selling. I regret who I sold two. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I made a lot of mistakes in the process, and

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Speaker 8: I'll leave it at that. When I called the new

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Speaker 8: owner and he started telling me stuff that wasn't true

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Speaker 8: that he had been told as the reason why he

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Speaker 8: approved it, and I'm like, that's not true. This is

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Speaker 8: a mistake. But nothing I can do. You know, here's

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Speaker 8: how you spin it positively as best you can.

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Speaker 1: So it was the Adelson family, not a lot of

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Speaker 1: secrets like Trump's second or third biggest supporter, Casinos like them,

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Speaker 1: dislike them, whatever. I would have thought that would have

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Speaker 1: made him keenly aware of who was buying it. And

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Speaker 1: I also don't necessarily believe that when he sold all

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Speaker 1: but twenty seven percent, that he truly believed. Hey, I'll

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Speaker 1: still call the shots. That's just not the way the

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Speaker 1: world worked. Mark's really smart, I think, I mean, nobody

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Speaker 1: else is supporting the claim that is making, which is

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Speaker 1: I thought I could call more shots. He also hired Nico,

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Speaker 1: who's been fired. I think what's happening is Marcus still

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Speaker 1: getting heat for the Luca shrapnel for the Luca trade,

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Speaker 1: and you know, a little protection here. I do think

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Speaker 1: one of the things I do believe he said he

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Speaker 1: didn't want his kids necessarily, you know, working for the

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Speaker 1: maps if things go wrong, you know, with all the

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Speaker 1: social media, it's a vile space to be whatever. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like Mark a lot, but I listen,

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Speaker 1: if you can make twelve and a half times the

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Speaker 1: money when you sell something, you sell it. And I

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Speaker 1: think he's a brilliant guy. But I mean, am I

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Speaker 1: wrong on that? To be a little cynical, just a

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Speaker 1: little bit on the Wow, he's caught me off guard.

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Speaker 1: With the Adelson's, they were pretty well known, I mean right,

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Speaker 1: And I understand the protection he is trying to build

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Speaker 1: around family and himself, and I mean that Luca Tree

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Speaker 1: if the Lake. I think what's happening is every time

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Speaker 1: the Lakers play well, you get more heat if you're

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, because now the Lakers are the hottest team

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Speaker 1: in the league. And I'm sure on Dallas Sports radio

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Speaker 1: and Dallas newspapers in Dallas media, it's been a really

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Speaker 1: bad march to be somebody who sold the Mavericks and

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Speaker 1: hired a GM who traded Luca. That's my take. Could

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Speaker 1: be wrong, just an opinion, a little bit of a cynic.

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Speaker 1: I know, nobody likes the cynic acrust, the old cynic.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little cynical on he didn't know more about

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Speaker 1: the Addelton family who you know, not for everybody