1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hello, Happy Hour listeners, Welcome back to another week and Rachel. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Before we get into what we saw go down in 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: this episode, we need to take a second. We have 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: some huge news for one of our favorite bachelors, one 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: of our badass women coming from the franchise, which is 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Kaitlin Bristow, won the Mirror Ball. She won Dancing with 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: the Stars, and I am beyond thrilled. Rachel. I don't 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: know if you celebrated, but I was popping champagne bottles 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: celebrating her, like I called my mom in happy tears 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: for her. But this was her lifelong dream and I'm 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: so incredibly proud of her. I echo all of your sentiments. 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled, and I honestly have to say I'm surprised 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: she won, not because she's not talented. I actually had 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: a bet with Nick Vile that she I said. Nick 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: said she would win. I am such a skeptical, like 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: paranoid person that I was like, Nope, the powers that 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: be are not gonna let two bachelorettes win in a row. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: So I had a bet with Nick. So I actually 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: have to buy Nick a new plant for his house 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: now because I lost. But I'm happy to say that 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad I was wrong. I am so glad it 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: is worth it. He'll have a plant. We'll name her Rachel. 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll name her Caitlin. Maybe we'll name her Mirraball. 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure, but we I lost that bet. Rachel. 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: You have to get a plant and hang a little 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: like a little cute silver ornament from the top of 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: it for him. Yes, oh that's a very good idea. 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Definitely will. I am a competitive person, but I'm happy 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: to lose this bet for sure. Caitlin is so deserving 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: of it. And there was even like some grumblings that 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: were like, oh, you know Caitlin. And I mean this 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: because I had to interview Kyon right after, so someone 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: of the contestants were a little bit setur ed that 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: didn't win, and they said, well, you know ABC Talent 35 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: one on ABC, And I was like, uh, hold up, 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: first of all, you're talking to ABC Talent. Definitely Talent 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: one on ABC. Yeah, just talent. Oh that was a 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: good one. Becca Madam Talent went on a But I'm like, 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: you know what, let's not take this away from Caitlin. 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: She had five perfect scores in a row. If this 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: wasn't up to the fans and the judges were voting, 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: she'd still probably win. Anybody who watched that could tell 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: that Caitlin truly was the best dancer. She Oh my gosh, 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: she shined every like she was impeccable. She was immaculate. 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, throw whatever word you want to on there. 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: At the positive it is Caitlin and Artem. I don't 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: want to take anything away from Artem because he's amazing 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: as well. The first time I ever met Caitlin, this 49 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: was one of the first conversations we had, was She's like, 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I really want to do Dancing with the Stars, and 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever will, and I lost my 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: chance and miss the opportunity. And so now look, you know, 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: you never know when your dreams will come true people, 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for her. I know we talked 55 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: about this before, Becca, but I feel like we can 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: breathe a sigh of relief. As much as I love Claire, 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: and I know you do too, it's nice to see 58 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: the Bachelor back on track. And I say that loosely. 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: I am not a fan of the traditional version of 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, which is why I enjoy things like Winter 61 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: games and even paradise. I like to see things shaken up, 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: and I don't like things to things to follow, you know, 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: the normal path. I like for us to step off 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the straight and narrow. So but I do appreciate what 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: we're getting with Tasia right now because I at least 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: want to know who these men are, and Tatias is 67 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: giving us that. So we've seen some funny dates, we've 68 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: seen some guest hosts, and we're fine only see meeting 69 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: the man and seeing Tasia navigate these relationships, and we're 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: seeing real and deep conversations. Yeah, Rachel, I think this 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite episodes. That I don't just 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: want to say that because I made a guest appearance, 73 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: but as you said, we are getting to know these men. 74 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: We're seeing more depth to her interactions with these guys, 75 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: and it just, I mean, being part of it is 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: so fun. So and I've been waiting for this episode 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: because I had a blast that day. But what I 78 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: think is really great is, aside from getting to know 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the men on the TV show, like we're able to 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: sit down and have them here away from the big 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: screen and really dive in and get to know them 82 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: further and ask the questions that maybe we didn't see 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Taitia or Claire ask them. And today is of course 84 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: no different because we have one of the men that 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I actually did meet on the date and who I 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: found hilarious. We are going to have none other than 87 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: mister boy band manager Can with the Good Abs on 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: the Podcast Today. On the Podcast Today, todaysh all about 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: his experience on the show and hopefully give us some 90 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: behind the scenes info into last night's episode, because we 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: saw a lot. Again, I feel like each week we're 92 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: like we saw so much, we saw so much, but 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: now we're actually seeing much more depth as I mentioned. 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: And so before we get him on and talk about 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: all things abs and boy bands and performing and I mean, 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: like just I feel like every week I've talked about 97 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: like Kenny being a block of muscle, Like he's just 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: like this chunk of muscle. So I know we have 99 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: questions about that for him. But before we get him on, 100 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: we have to get into what we saw last night. 101 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: So I think we just got to get into it. Wait, 102 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: before we get into the recap, we have to talk 103 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: about something that is not on our rundown. Becca, did 104 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: you see the tease for Matt Jane's season, I did thought, yes, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: So this is the one thing, so I was. I 106 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: actually was with one of the producers watching the teas, 107 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to give it too much away, 108 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: but they mentioned that this season, more than any other season, 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see the most tears out of 110 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: any group of girls. Yet I don't know if that's 111 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: a good thing. Like I I'm still feeling the lingering 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: effects of Peter's women. Okay, I you know that there's 113 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: a reason none of them were chosen as the bachelorte, 114 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: even though I mean, if I had a choice, it 115 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: obviously would be Natasha. Clearly, I'm biased and I have 116 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: no shame of that, but as a whole, I'm still 117 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: feeling all of that. I don't want that again. With 118 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Matt James season out, my first thoughts, the women looked stunning, gorgeous, beautiful, 119 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: which I expected, but there was a part Becca that 120 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: really got me. I'm obspect, I have a bone to pick. Shocker, 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, surprise, guys, but here it comes. I am 122 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: a fan of Matt James, It's don't see great. He 123 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: reached out to several leads before he did the show, 124 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: which I think was genius because he's never had this 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: experience before and he wanted to talk to people who've 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: been through it. I talked to him for like three 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: hours FaceTime at that. I don't even like him FaceTime 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: FaceTime at that? Okay. Matt James revealed to Chris Harrison 129 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: on Night one Waiting for the Women that he's never 130 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: been in love before, which I feel like playing into 131 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: what you just said about him having conversations with the leads. 132 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I had not a three hour FaceTime conversation, but that 133 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: was one thing I asked him going in. It's like, 134 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: what is your type? What are you looking for? And 135 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was fully prepared and it 136 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: it just it baffles my mind that not to knock 137 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Matt James because I don't really know him. He seemed 138 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: sweet from what I've I've seen, but hey, how are 139 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: you going to go on to a TV show where 140 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: you are leading a group of thirty plus people and 141 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: you're constantly being pulled in all the directions You're in itms, 142 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: you're giving interviews, You're having to like cut open your 143 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: heart and spill all of your emotions and then to 144 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: not be in love Becca my thoughts exactly. I needed 145 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: a moment. I said, are we serious? And we put 146 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: this in a promo. This is what we waited eighteen 147 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: years for. Not mind you. I'm a fan of Matt James. 148 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I like him, Otherwise I wouldn't have given him that 149 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: much face side my time. I like him, but I 150 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: just am shocked that this is a man who's got 151 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: to navigate thirty plus relationships, and he's got to differentiate 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: between infatuation and love, and he's supposed to do it 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: with a camera in his face and miked up, and 154 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: we're supposed to trust that he can do that. Let's 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: be honest. The success rate for men on this show 156 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: is piss poor. So why are we going to expect 157 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: for Matt James to be any different? The man is 158 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: going to have a fantastic time. But I am now 159 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: not confident in his love story, which I originally said 160 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to find someone, knowing that 161 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with him as a person. 162 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: It's just about experience. I don't think he's going to 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: pick someone now, and if he does pick someone, it 164 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: will not last. That is personally what I think. I 165 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: think it's going to be before Yeah, it's going to 166 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: be an interesting season. I mean, this is the first 167 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: time we've ever had a lead that has no idea 168 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: like what this is all about. So between the fact 169 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: that he's a newbie, all these girls are new, that 170 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: he's never been in love, that there's apparently been so 171 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: many tears shed I think. I mean, as a viewer, 172 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued and I can't wait to watch this go down. 173 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I hope it's not going to be a shit show. 174 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Like I truly hope that he I mean, like I 175 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: wish the best for everyone. I hope that he finds 176 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: a lasting part. But I'm not interested in the storyline. Becca. 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: I turned it off when I saw it. I don't 178 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: want it. I don't want another Coulton, I don't want 179 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: another Peter. I need somebody who's a matter of fact 180 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: and knows, like understands this. It's not figuring out life 181 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: and love while figuring out the whole bachelor journey. I'm 182 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: not interested in the storyline. Guys. I hope this is 183 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: just a tease and we get more. It's just I 184 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's so interesting to go from some past 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: leads who you know, didn't get engaged and then got 186 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: together with people that they weren't even in their top 187 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: exacts feelings about this too, telling people, telling people cover um, 188 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: but to go then from those seasons to clear season 189 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: who right away, like within the first fifteen minutes, she's like, 190 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: this is my husband calling a day, we're engaged, don't 191 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: have the babies, Let's do this, And then go from Tasha, 192 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: who I think also is you know, she hopefully knows 193 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: what she wants and she's going for it, and it 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: seems like everything's aligning for her as it should. It's 195 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: going to be a huge one eighty I think with 196 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Matt James' season than what we've just seen or what 197 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: we're currently seeing. I guess yeah, yeah, to be continued, guys, 198 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: but right now we're not happy. I am not interested 199 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: in this, even though I fully support Matt James and 200 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm so happy he's the first Black batchlor Bachelor, but 201 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: I do not support this storyline. Okay, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 202 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: in a couple of months, if he's down on one 203 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: knee and in a committed, loving relationship, Rachel Treatments are betting. 204 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: I gotta see some of the season. I'm not doubting 205 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: that he will get down on one knee. I am 206 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: doubting that it won't last because the way he had 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: to find his first love for the first time, which 208 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: is also shocking to me. It's like, Matt James. James 209 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: is attractive, he has a job, he is a nonprofit um, 210 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: he's clearly not short of meeting women. Yet he's never 211 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: been in love before. I need one of the stories 212 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: it because you just haven't found that person, is because 213 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: you were running away from it. It plays into this 214 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: frat boys stereotype that he has. He is not that 215 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: person in talking to him on the phone, but the 216 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: stereotype of him is, you know, the Quarantine crew affiliated 217 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: with Tyler Cameron, running around with models, you know what 218 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like around New York and now you've also 219 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: never been in love? Like how serious are you about this? 220 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Don't worry you, guys. When he comes on the podcast, 221 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: these are questions that will be asked and answered. I 222 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: wonder if some girls are going to come out of 223 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: the woodwork now that actually dated him, and they're gonna 224 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: be like, no, he told me he loved me. We 225 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: were in just come on, come on on, to Bachelor 226 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. You guys, if you got a story to 227 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: tell about, We're not that type of podcast. Let's just slide, 228 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: just sliding our personal dance. Don't use our don't use 229 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: our our podcast account. Okay, okay, okay. Do we continued 230 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: on that, but we gotta get down to what we're seeing, 231 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: what we saw last night, because there's a lot to digest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 232 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: you want to popple it off. Let's pop this off. 233 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: Let's pop it off. So we start off with like 234 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: it was a group date, but I feel like it 235 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: was a mini group date to pick like who she 236 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: actually wanted to bring on the one on one with. 237 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: So we see some of the guys. We have Ivan Riley, 238 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Blake, Damar Bennett, and Zach se who have to 239 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: do a little songwriting for her and who suck out 240 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: the most to you Damar. You know, I'm a fan 241 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: of Damar. I have been, and this is the most 242 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: camera time I feel like we've seen of him. Damar. 243 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: He was so dedicated, He took his time, He brought 244 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: out an instrument. I don't know what notes he was playing, 245 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. He had the rhyme, the rhythm, it 246 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: was creative, it was cute and playful. Damar clearly by 247 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: far Landslide. So in my notes I actually wrote Damar 248 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: was my favorite two simply for the fact that he 249 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: dropped JPJ in there, which I thought was so clever 250 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: because we haven't seen I don't think up until this point, 251 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: no one's brought him up. I mean, and obviously we 252 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: saw the relationship between Tasha and JPJ on Paradise. We 253 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: had Tasha on the podcast after Paradise to talk about it, 254 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: so I thought, because I believe that was a real relationship, 255 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: that's why I'm I was talking about it. So, um, Damar, Yeah, 256 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: I would have. I would have given it to Damar 257 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: as well. Absolutely, Damar, hands down. Now one of my 258 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: favorite moments obviously involves Bennett because he's the gift that 259 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: keeps giving. Gosh, I freaking love Bennett. Probably I'm gonna 260 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: step out of lim and say my favorite Bachelor Nation 261 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: character that I've seen, that I've seen and I started 262 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: watching on next season, he has by far my favorite. 263 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: So many facests to Ben it. But Bennett was so 264 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: confident in himself and they do this cutaway of him 265 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: smiling from ear to ear nodding his head so sure 266 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: that his song, even though I love that he didn't 267 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: sing and he rapped because he's like representing with the 268 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: atl and even was like, yeah, you know, I'm no 269 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: stranger to the freestyle. I could love in it. Um 270 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: So I just love how eager and confident he was 271 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: only to be let down. That was That was funny 272 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: to me. But yeah, no, Ivan won. Ivan was sweet. 273 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: But wait, Rachel, we're missing a huge key point to 274 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: this date. And it's the fact that and I have 275 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: no doubt I'm gonna ask Kenny about this, but he 276 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: is a boy band manager. How do you not win 277 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: this group date? Yeah, some people sing and some people manage. 278 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: And I think Kenny knew very well that he does 279 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: not have the talent to be, you know, on stage. 280 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: But Kenny, like you know, he he hopefully can carry 281 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: some sort of tune and knows like what melodies flow 282 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: and like at least bust out some dance moves or 283 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: something like this is your career. He recognizes talent. He 284 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: is not the talent. I had no expectations for Knny. 285 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: I knew Kenny would suck. I'm just gonna be honest. 286 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: I went in like with very high hopes and if 287 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: anyone's gonna win this, it has to be him. Yeah. 288 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I knew he would suck, but he's funny like I enjoy. 289 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: I actually enjoy Kenny a lot on a tatious season 290 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: because he's in Claire's He's outspoken, he's funny, he's a bro. 291 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: He's a total dude. He holds his own, he doesn't 292 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: take things too seriously. He calls the guys out when 293 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: he asked you, but it was Tom, called Spencer or dickhead. 294 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: I love it so this date, so the winner was Ivan. 295 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: Clearly she wanted to give it to Ivan. He was. 296 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: It was cute and sweet. It just wasn't the best. 297 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: So she gives the prize to Ivan and he gets 298 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: the whole Netflix and chilled date, which I loved. I 299 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: loved this concept of the one on one date. It 300 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: was so intimate. I wish I had something like this 301 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: on my season. It was a very real life date. 302 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: This is what something you would do when you get 303 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: a few dates. Right. You wouldn't invite everybody to your 304 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: room immediately, but after a few dates in you get 305 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: to know someone. You have this type of experience of 306 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: what did you think about the date with Ivann Tasia? 307 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: And I loved it much like you. It's like I 308 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: tried to put myself back in the bachelorette shoes, and 309 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: like you know, you're always on, You're constantly going on 310 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: different dates and you're in interviews and it's a lot. 311 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: And so I remember being on my season, I'm like, 312 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: I just want to take a nap with somebody, Like 313 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: I just want to lay there and chill. And I 314 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: feel like she got that, like you know, she just 315 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: invited him over to the room. I love how we 316 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: see them like in different settings, Like we see the 317 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: playful side where they're you know, the floor's lava and 318 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: they're ordering room service. It was so cute. It's like 319 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to be on that day with them, like 320 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: they're playing twister and then they're sitting out by the pool. 321 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: And one thing that stuck out to me on this 322 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: state that I loved, which I really want to get 323 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: into the conversation because by far, I think out of 324 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: this entire season, that's like the most impactful conversation we've seen. 325 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: But did you notice that the entire time that they 326 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: were talking in Taitia did not stop smiling. She was 327 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: smiling the entire date with him. I mean, sort of 328 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: like some moments with tears, but she would just stare 329 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: at him and just has this smile, like she just 330 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: looks elated to be with Ivan. Yeah. Yeah, she seems 331 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: very very comfortable. It was shocking that this was their 332 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: first date because they really seemed to just have an 333 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: ease with one another. So yeah, yeah, I definitely noticed that, 334 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: And you're right. They had a very important conversation, which personally, 335 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: I was very happy to see because we needed to 336 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: have this type of conversation. I was going to be 337 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: very upset with the franchise if it wasn't addressed with 338 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: everything that's happening this year and in the world. And yes, 339 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: they were in the middle of a bachelor bubble, but 340 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: if you want these relationships to succeed, you have to 341 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: have these real life conversations. Because Tasia is a woman 342 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: of color, and I'll let you go ahead and talk 343 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: about it. But I was happy Ivan brought it up, 344 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: and I think he was the I mean, obviously he 345 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: was the perfect person to have this conversation because they 346 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: could relate, but like we see him open up about 347 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: his brother and the backstory there, and there's so much 348 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: depth and emotion. But one thing that I liked, and 349 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: at first, I'm gonna preface this with my thoughts quickly changed. 350 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: At first, I was like, Oh, I hope Tasia can 351 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: step up and like have this conversation because at first 352 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: we saw Ivan open up and really dig deep, and 353 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: of course I about his brother and BLM and George 354 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: Floyd and Tasia, you know, it hits her and she 355 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: just kept saying, like, this is really hard, this is 356 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: really hard. So I was like, oh, Lord, like, I 357 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: hope there's more to that, Like, I hope that's not 358 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: just like all her input is for this conversation. Thank goodness, 359 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: it came back and she had more to contribute. But 360 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: what I found interesting about this conversation is usually it's 361 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: the lead digging deeper for whoever she's on the date with, 362 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: and the lead is the one to kind of lift 363 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: them up and make them feel comfortable. And in this case, 364 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: it was the reverse. It was Ivan the one, even 365 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: though he's with the bachelor, he's with the most eligible 366 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: woman in America right now. He's the one to be 367 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: there and like be that solid rock for her and 368 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: to say like, let's talk about this. I'm here for you. 369 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: Open up. It's okay, it's a safe space. And that 370 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: was I think really important for her to then be 371 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: able to do that, because she wouldn't have been able, 372 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: I think, to do that with any other guy. M 373 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: very very good observation and point. And I have very 374 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: similar notes that I wrote down as well. And I 375 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, be redundant and say what 376 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: you said, so I'll just try to pay you back 377 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: onto it. And I was like, what the hell is this? 378 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I was sitting, Oh, give us something, Give us something, Tasia. Yeah. 379 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: I I have not been a big fan of Ivan. 380 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: I was indifferent. I didn't have an opinion. I definitely 381 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: have one now after watching this conversation, he has won 382 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: me over. He is absolutely one of my favorites because 383 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: of the way he was able to breast and communicate 384 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: what is happening in this world, how has it it 385 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: has affected him personally, his fault and how he used 386 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: to think about things, and how he has grown from that. 387 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful conversation to be had. I like 388 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 1: Ivan because he challenges Tasia in a way that she 389 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: has never been challenged before by any man that she's 390 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: been with, and that's that's very evident. Um, I'm trying 391 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: to I'm trying to make sure I say this right. 392 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: Even though when she when it came back and Tasia 393 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: was trying to talk, and Ivan even said to her, 394 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: I feel He even said, I don't know if it 395 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: was in a confessional, if he said it to her, 396 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: he said, I feel like she's hesitant, and I wanted 397 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: to know she can trust me, so he even noticed that, 398 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, she was holding back. Tasia made a very 399 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: important statement. She said she's always tried to blend in 400 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: because she knew she was different. And what that translates 401 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: to is she tried to assimilate to whiteness and tone 402 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: down her blackness. That's basically what she's saying. And I 403 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: so wanted more from Tatia in this conversation. And I 404 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: get being emotional. It still makes me emotional to talk 405 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: about George Floyd, Maard, Aubrey, Brianna Taylor. I mean, the 406 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: list goes on and on and on, and it makes 407 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: me emotional too, because the list didn't start in twenty twenty. 408 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: We've talked about this, but I so wanted Taitia to 409 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: put words to her tears, because that statement of saying 410 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: she tried to blend in because she knew she was 411 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: different is something so many black people who grew up 412 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: in majority white communities or schools can relate to. I 413 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: personally can relate to that. I went to a majority 414 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: white school my entire life. I know what it's like 415 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: to try to blend in and tone down who you 416 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: really are just because you feel like it's easier. And 417 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: I wanted Tastia to talk about the why and the 418 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: why that is why she felt like she had to 419 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: blend in, Why this is such a struggle for her, 420 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: why it's hard for her to talk about, and specifically 421 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: not just as a black woman, as a Black and 422 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Latina woman. You know, she's a woman of color and 423 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: she's representing two cultures in two communities. I wanted her 424 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: to express that. You know, I'm quick to correct people 425 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: that Tastie is not the second black bachelorette. She's the 426 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: first Black and Latina bachelorette. She is a first, and 427 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: she is representing women who have never who she's representing 428 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: women on this show who there's never been a lead 429 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: that's been by racial of these this culture and there 430 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: are young girls who can look to her and relate 431 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: to her. And I just wanted her in this moment 432 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: to express that because it was almost like Ivan you 433 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: are You said it. Ivan was leading the conversation. Ivan 434 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: was was pushing her and guiding her and telling her 435 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: how he's been called the in word, and she was 436 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: like shocked by it, like really that's what it was. 437 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: And I just it was a great conversation. But like 438 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: you said, it was Ivan who was leading, leading it. 439 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: It was Ivan who brought it up. It was Ivan 440 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: who was pushing it. And I wanted Tasia more from 441 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Tasha in this moment, and maybe we'll get it later. 442 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think. And obviously this is 443 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: a hard question ask because we weren't there, we don't 444 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: know what was all said. They only cut a couple 445 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: minutes of a conversation to piece together for us. But 446 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: do you think Ivan left fully getting what he wanted 447 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: or needed from that conversation. I don't think Ivan was 448 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: looking at it that way. I think Ivan was more 449 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: so looking at the fact that they have a lot 450 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: of similarities physically and even with their backgrounds. I think 451 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: he was looking at he had this one on one 452 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: with Tasha, and she broke down and was emotional with him. 453 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that he was looking at it like, Wow, 454 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: I wish she would have said more. I don't. I 455 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: don't think that, and I don't know if if I 456 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: would have even gotten it in that moment. And I'm 457 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: sure and I don't want to speak for him because 458 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't know him, but I'm sure he walked away 459 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: being like, I'm the only person really like out of 460 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: this group of guys that can have this type of 461 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: conversation with her right now, that can like totally relate 462 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: on such a similar level. So yeah, I'm sure there's 463 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: I hope that there's more that they had talked about 464 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: that we didn't necessarily see. But yeah, I mean it's 465 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: a step in the right direction to start. Thank god, 466 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: the show's like finally showing these conversations. Yeah, I think 467 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna be hard, and there's going to be a 468 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: level of expectation, not just for Tasia, not just for 469 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: Matt James, but anybody who's of color coming on these 470 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: these seasons right now in twenty twenty of talking about 471 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: what's going on and how it affects you and why 472 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: it affects you that way. I think people are going 473 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: to be expecting that, and honestly, rightfully, so, you are 474 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: stepping into when you're in your public figure at this point, 475 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: whether you're a contestant or the lead, and people are 476 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: looking to you for guidance and advice and as role models. 477 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think it's an unfair expectation 478 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: for people to place on you. So I hope this 479 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: isn't even the last conversation. I thought it was beautiful. 480 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: I hope that when Tasha gets down to her final 481 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: men that she has very similar conversations as well, because 482 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be two by racial people, two 483 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: people of color to black people, whatever. It needs to 484 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: just be Tasia and whoever, just because of who she 485 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: is and what their potential children can be and their 486 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: blended families will be. So yeah, but I am happy 487 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: the conversation was had. Yeah, and one last thing I 488 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: want to say before we keep going, But I don't 489 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: know if I've been listening to our podcasts, I would 490 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: hope he doesn't at least I want him to hear 491 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: this part. But props to him for even opening up 492 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: about his brother, Like, yeah, that's not easy to do 493 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: to anyone that you're just starting to date, and let 494 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: alone do that have that conversation in front of all 495 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: of America. So everyone, if you're listening, throw Ivan some 496 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: love and support. But it's not easy to open up 497 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: that deep just to one person in the relationship so soon, 498 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: but to do it to the entire world, I think 499 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: just shows the depth and the character and how willing 500 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: you know he is to be open to have teach 501 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: to get to know him. So kudos to Ivan. I'm 502 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: sending him all my love and support this week. I 503 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: am a huge Ivan fan after that conversation. Same here. 504 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: So it's hard to move on to the BS after 505 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: having like such a real conversation, but we must because 506 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: that is the show. But no, no, it's the ballots 507 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: of the two. The show is the ballots of the 508 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: serious and the fun, is what I'm trying to say. 509 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: So I don't even want to get into the group 510 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: date with the truth or dare I know you were there. 511 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: But so with Kinney, who you've already said it is 512 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: going to be a guest on our show, so I 513 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: know you have burning questions, secret questions, detailed questions that 514 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: you can ask him about the state, which I actually 515 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: thought was really fun and creative. But let's move on 516 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: to the Ben and add and Tatia moment that we 517 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: got towards the end of the show. Um okay, So, 518 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: first of all, high production genius. Okay, we see both 519 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Ed and Ben, who think to themselves, you know what, 520 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I need more time with Taysia before this rose ceremony. 521 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten that time yet. If I don't get 522 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: this time, I'm going home. So we see them both 523 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: on a mission. Honestly, I would have loved for them 524 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: to end up in the same place, but I don't know. Becca, 525 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: let me before, what were you thinking was going to happen? 526 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: The whole time we're seeing this, I'm like, Lakinta is big, 527 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: so it's it's very likely they can be separated with 528 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: two camera crews, But how is this going to in 529 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: What were you thinking? Well, like you, I really did 530 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: think that production would pull a fast one on both 531 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: of them and have them both show up, or at 532 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: least like in my mind, I was like, Ben's gonna 533 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: go get to Tasia's room first. They're gonna like have 534 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: this hot, steamy makeout session and then Ed's gonna show 535 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: up and like kind of like you know, when we 536 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: saw Claren Dale when they were having like the long 537 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: time together and then Chasen or somebody else walked in 538 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, that's what I expected. But 539 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: the fact that he showed up at Chris Harrison's villa 540 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: was so much better. And not only that he showed 541 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: up and obviously Chris is like, what the hell are 542 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: you doing here? The fact that Chris is like, let's 543 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: crack open a bottle of wine, let's have some like, 544 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: let's have a man chat. I was like, I love this, 545 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: and I loved the bloopers, like because when they're sitting 546 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: there it looks so awkward, but the bloopers later on 547 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: when they were at like they were finishing the bottle. 548 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: If you look at Chris's glass, it was all at 549 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: one point they like if they spend some time together, 550 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: and if I mean, I just found it in deary 551 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: like Noah, I have urged WHOA for Ed? I have 552 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: such a soft spot in my heart just because I 553 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, like from everything we've heard about him, 554 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: I just like, I'm really rooting for him, but he's 555 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: giving the short end of the stick and every situation 556 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: possible here. Yeah, but he's to blame here, Okay, he 557 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: took the bay. If he was really on a mission 558 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: to get to our girl, Tasia, then he would have said, 559 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry Chris had disturbed you. I'm going to 560 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: continue to look for Tasia. What did he do? We've 561 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: talked about this time and time again. These men have 562 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: a huge crush on Chris Harrison. He was more thrilled 563 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: that he stumbled across Chris Harrison's villa than he was. 564 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: He forgot all about Tasha. Who I'm with the man, 565 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend that is Chris Harrison. Oh oh, 566 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: and he's inviting me inside. Oh, he's gonna pop bottles 567 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: with me. I can't wait to tell the rest of 568 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: the men at the ouse what I did with Chris Harrison. 569 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, That's what Ed was thinking. I can't wait 570 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: to go back and tell Carlos so all about this. 571 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that's that's it was 572 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: written all over his face. I still think it would 573 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: have been so great if the two of them showed 574 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: up at the same time and like Tasia didn't know 575 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: what to do. But we also can't set our girl 576 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: up for failures. So this was funny how it played out. 577 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was that's cute. I had never seen 578 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: that before. No, no, no, I thought it was very clever. Again, 579 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: like production working over time. It was so good to 580 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: have that moment, you know, and the ben part, it 581 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: was great. It was sweet. They finally were able to 582 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of reconnect. I guess he had to reset and 583 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: prove how he felt about her, which was which was great, 584 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: you know. Quite frankly though, I would have been wanting 585 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: to drink that nice read woman Chris. But he should 586 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: have gone after Taia and honestly after that he should 587 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: have gone home, right we needed and should have gone home. 588 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: He didn't deserve to be there after this. I don't 589 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: know if Ivan or Brendan or Zach or Bennett or 590 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: you know who else do I have left ben if 591 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: he had gone to the wrong place, would have done 592 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: the same thing. But it is no Benet would have. 593 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: Bennett would have put on a face mask with Chris. 594 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: He would have borrowed Chris, don't you do my Bennet 595 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: like that? He would have can feed up. Bennett would 596 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: have said, I'm gonna I'm gonna take this drink. Thank 597 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: you for forming me the drink, Thanks for the nightcap. 598 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna take this drink and go fintation. That's 599 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: what he would have done. It would have been classless 600 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: of him to turn down Chris Harrison. He would have 601 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: taken the drink, taken a sip, and then been on 602 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: his way. Yeah. Um oh, go ahead. No I was 603 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: just gonna saying, you know, good good entertainment for that night. 604 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Fast forward to know next night we have a cocktail 605 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: party where more drama happens with Noah, who you know, 606 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: he's already been rubbing the guy's the wrong way. Of course, 607 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: they weren't thrilled about him hopping the fence last week 608 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: and getting the group date rose that he wasn't supposed 609 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: to be on. Basically, he reveals Cetasia that the guys 610 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: were saying she him the roast to only shake things 611 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: up and kind of just questioning her intentions and I 612 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: guess her decision making skills, which she got pissed and 613 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: rightfully so I understand that, like we've as leads, you 614 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: have those moments where you hear one thing and you're 615 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: just like this is going against everything I've been preaching 616 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: to you guys since I've been here. So fuck you, 617 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to leave. So she addressed the men and left, 618 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: and you know, we have this moment where the guys 619 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: that are questioning Noah and there's just I mean, there 620 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot loss in translation between him 621 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: and the men. Yeah. I did not understand the hate 622 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: that the men had towards Noah. I didn't think it 623 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: was warranted until this moment. Okay, Noah is a master manipulator. 624 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: And that is the only note that I wrote down 625 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: because that is what stands out this man. Instead of 626 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: tattling on the men, he flipped the situation and made 627 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: it seemed like they were talking about Tatia when that 628 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: is not the case. They were talking about Noah. But 629 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: he flipped it to make himself more the victim and 630 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: made it seem like Tasia, they have a problem with you. 631 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the lawyer in me is like it was 632 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: pure genius. That was I mean, it was a smart tactic, 633 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: but for this show, it's honestly alarming. Like I'm red 634 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: flags They're they're waving all over Noah. This man is 635 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: scary the way he flipped that situation. I'm actually terrified 636 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: of Noah now, but you might jumping the fence as 637 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: a jumping the gate is now a totally different thing. 638 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: It's all it's different. So that's where I'm wondering, like, 639 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: is there more behind the scenes that were not possibly seen? 640 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: But regardless even if that's the case, the way he 641 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: approached her and the way he worded it and brought 642 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: it up and threw a background her I don't think 643 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: was right at all. And it was just like me 644 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: as a viewer, like what am I missing here? What 645 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: master manipulator? He was the puppet master. He was pulling 646 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: strings through that whole thing, and it worked because I 647 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: don't even know if he realized how great it was 648 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: going to work. Because Tashia, which I did appreciate this 649 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: moment where she because we see Taysia's bubbly and she's 650 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: got great energy and she still has all those things, 651 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: but don't play her. And that's what she gave those 652 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: men in that rose ceremony, and we love to see it. 653 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting her to cancel the rose ceremony, but 654 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: she did, and I understand her frustration. And Noah, you know, 655 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: to his credit, didn't even realize how great his little 656 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: master plan was going to work. But it worked, worked, 657 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: and he gained no friends in the house, only enemies. 658 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: And we see the rose ceremony. Sorry, we see the 659 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: cocktail party canceled and the rose ceremony happens, and we 660 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: see Chasin, thank God, go home, Jordan, who we didn't 661 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: see that much of our boy, Kenny, and doctor Joe, who, 662 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: once again we needed to see more of Doctor Joe. 663 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: I've spoken at great lengths about my displeasure not seeing 664 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: enough of him on the show. But you know, we 665 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: see him go home, So maybe we'll see these these 666 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: four men again. I would I would hope we see 667 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: some of them. Some of them maybe not so much. 668 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I'm gonna miss seeing Kenny on the screen. 669 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: I thought he brought some comedy Joe before he went home, 670 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And I said this last week, I 671 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: wish we would have seen more of him, because he 672 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: here reminds me of Becca M in the way that 673 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: like people in the house would say certain things on 674 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: ari season, and Becca M would have the best reactions 675 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: and expressions of certain things. And I started to pick 676 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: that up in Joe, but yeah, we lost some good ones, 677 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: you know when others Sionara. Yeah, and then we've got 678 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: We've got the preview for next week, and I'm scared fan. 679 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: It's some shopping block. We all know how I feel 680 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: about dear Bennett and he was so invested in so 681 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: many men this season. No, I'm not invested in so 682 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: many men. I'm invested in Bennett. And Bennett looks like 683 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: he is on the chopping block. My man set himself 684 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: up for the two on one. I'm upset that he's 685 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: in this situation. So you know, well, we'll see what happens, 686 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: but I'm hoping it doesn't end with Bennett going home. 687 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go, and I'm not ready to 688 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: see Ed go. Yeah, said, I don't want to turn 689 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: on Tasha. Tasha, do the right thing, That's all I'm 690 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna say. Okay, So with that, Becca, I know you 691 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: have the pleasure of meeting Kenny on your day, but 692 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 1: I did not, and I cannot wait. I thoroughly enjoy 693 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: Kenny's personality and I can't wait to ask him so 694 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: many questions because one thing he is is straightforward and direct, 695 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: which means we are about to have a fantastic interview. So, 696 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: without further ado, we welcome Kenny the boy Band manager, 697 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Kenny with the Good Abs to our podcast. I want 698 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: to start off first welcoming you. Have you done that 699 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: other podcast before? Uh, not for the not for the show, 700 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean in general, yeah, a couple, but not not 701 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: for this. Yeah. Well we're your first Boucher Boucher family. Yeah, yeah, welcome, 702 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: I remember, Yes, thank you, Kenny. You're one of our favorites. 703 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: You're no, no, really really, you're outspoken, you're funny, um, 704 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: and it's it's great to see both of those. Like 705 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: you have a fun personality, Like you're somebody who I'm like, 706 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: you know what, he probably really cool to hang with outside. 707 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, unfortunately, I think that's why I got signed home. 708 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: You're too much. But you know, as as former leads, 709 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: there's you always keep and and maybe like it's different 710 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: for Tasia because the way that she came into all 711 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: of this, but as former leads, you always keep the 712 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: one you have the most fun with around you keep 713 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: you're like okay, like yeah, like I just like I 714 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: need I need a break up. This the monotony, the drama. 715 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: Somebody will get Kenny, please, right, I like one hundred percent, 716 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: Like I thought a lot of the guys, it was 717 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: just always so dramatic, like romantic talking. I'm like, I'm 718 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: not like that in real life, Like I can't talk 719 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: these romantic words. I'm usually a smartass and that's how 720 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: I show my love so by you. Okay, I have 721 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: to call you out because on the date that I 722 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: hosted Kenny. Yes, so it was warranted, but Kenny told 723 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: me to shut that way what it was fun loving. 724 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: I deserved it. I will say that. I uh, first 725 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: of all, did I said, I didn't say it that mean? 726 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: And I said, I just I don't even know where 727 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: I can. It literally just came out of nowhere because 728 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: I was eating I was eating pepper. Yeah, I don't 729 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: even know what the hell was going on. And I 730 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: was totally joking. And I'm like a second after I 731 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: said it, I'm like, fuck, I should not have said that. Yeah, no, 732 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: that's actually what tastious sent you home. No, no bullshit. 733 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: From that moment, I literally felt I was gonna go 734 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: home and I did. After that, I was actually shocked. 735 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: I did not expect you to go home, but I 736 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: will say I did deserve it. You did down to 737 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: the pepper, and then you were trying to, you know, 738 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: express your feelings in this little fake proposal and city 739 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: and I just kept chirping in the background, Oh yeah, 740 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: bringing you the bucket, the puke bucket. So I get it. No, no, no, 741 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: I I I've had I've asked a few behind the 742 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: scenes people to tell you, I'm sorry. I don't know 743 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: if I've ever reached you or not. It did. I 744 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: appreciate it, but it just means like we like you, 745 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: like me, right, You're gonna be straight. No, that's honestly, Yeah, 746 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: that's that's exactly how. That's how I am. So it's 747 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: just some people don't. Don't. It's not for everybody. It's 748 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: I mean, like we're smartasses, so you know you're in 749 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: a safe place right here. But yeah, it's not for everybody. 750 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: How has it been watching yourself back this season? Um, 751 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: it's I've been loving it, to be honest with you, 752 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: it's just been I watch it with my family and 753 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: they're very similar to me, and we all kind of 754 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: just talk shit to each other. So you know, it's 755 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: just basically done talking shit to me while we watch 756 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: and it's like a family get together. I feel like 757 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to ask this because I mean, obviously 758 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: we don't know you very well, but I feel like 759 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: from what we've seen of you on the show each week, 760 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: you have stayed pretty true to I'm sure who you are. 761 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: Would your family say the same watching it back? Oh yeah, 762 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: one my friends more than my friends and family, But 763 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: people that I work with would say, like, that's how 764 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: I am. Like some you know, sometimes I come off 765 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: an asshole if I'm calling people out or kind of 766 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: calling out situations and stuff that I did on this 767 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: show a little bit kind of with Claire and stuff, 768 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: But it's one hundred percent how I am in real life. 769 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: I feel like your job requires you to be a 770 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: little bit of a jerk though, right, Like you gotta 771 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: deal with groupies, you gotta agent. I mean, let's be real, 772 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: you gotta deal with agents, you gotta deal with you 773 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like denying talent, except you, you 774 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: kind of have to be a hard ass because you're 775 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: the barrier between you and whoever the client is. Yeah, 776 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: so I can go into this. Yeah, okay, how did 777 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: you get into managing boy bands? Uh? Well, so I've 778 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: been booking a club. I'll the entertainment for a club. 779 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: You're in Chicago for like seventeen years. So it's a 780 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: it's on like the south Side. It's called Bourbon Street 781 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's just it's like on the outskirts of 782 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: the city, about a half hour from downtown. But anyways, 783 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: I've been I was doing that forever. That's been my 784 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: main thing. And then about six years ago, um me 785 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: and uh, we can't. I had this concept to do 786 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: a boy band tribute, so basically a tribute to in 787 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: Saint Backstreet Boys, One Direction, New Kids on the Block, 788 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I partnered up with a friend 789 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: of mine from the business and we started a little 790 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: company and we our first band that we put together 791 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: was the boy Band Night, and we assembled the musicians 792 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: and just put it together. And then we have six 793 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: bands now since then. We put together and we manage 794 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: and kind of babysit. So Richel and I'm going to 795 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: be invited to a concert when things are up and running. 796 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 1: Oh god, you guys would love it. I love cover 797 00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: band concerts. I mean not to like toot our own horn, 798 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: but they are very like they're good, like we play 799 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: like we play good rooms across the country. We played 800 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: in Canada. It's they're like, the guys are great. It's 801 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: a really great band. How did how did you not 802 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: channel one of these boy bands when you were asked 803 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: to sing to Tasia on the date? Dude, I am 804 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 1: so behind the scenes with the music stuff, like, no 805 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: musical talent whatsoever. I was. I was freaking the fuck 806 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: out for that partner. I said, some people manage and 807 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: some people have talent. And I said, Kenny clearly is 808 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: on the other side. Thank you. It's so interesting. You 809 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: obviously have had the best job title, real job title, 810 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: because a lot of times there's a fake job title 811 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: contestants to make them to make them more interesting. This 812 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: is a real job. You have the most interesting real 813 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: job that we've ever seen. How in the world did 814 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: you get on The Bachelorette? I uh, you know, basically, 815 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 1: they they just the show reached out contacting me. Um 816 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: in the midst of COVID, I was literally sitting on 817 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: my ASTs doing not we had, you know, the bars 818 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: was like during the first part of the lockdown, and 819 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: I don't know where this just came about, and it 820 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: just happened. It's so weird to be honest, somebody reached 821 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: out to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the show reached 822 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: out and you'd never seen an episode before. Yeah I 823 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: have actually, Um, I knew a dude on your season. Rachel. 824 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: I modeled with Peter Kraus in the past. Um no, Kenny, 825 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: this is one thing that I think Rachel and I 826 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: have said it. I'm because you were on the Strip 827 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: Dodgeball date and then what was the other one, the 828 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: water Water Polo. Yeah, yeah, on those ones and both 829 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: times Rachel and I, well maybe more so many I 830 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: was like, Kenny's like just a block of muscle like 831 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: that he is. And uh for the listeners who because 832 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: they didn't actually show this part. Um, so the group 833 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: did that I hosted with you guys. Yeah, you all 834 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: had to wax, you know, parts of your body. And 835 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: so the guys come back and like somebody had waxed 836 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: their backs, somebody waxed their leg, you know, somebody probably 837 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: did their button. You you weren't shy. You. I think 838 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: you made the cameraman a little bit uncomfortable. Probably the 839 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: problem was that's the only hair I had at the time. 840 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: Like I told Blake, I go, this is what we 841 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: gotta do. That's all I got. It's either that or 842 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: we did Blake. Did Blake wax you? Yeah, that you 843 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: should have won the whole thing for that dude. Me 844 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: and Blake we went on. We went wild on that day. 845 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: To be honest, we went a little wild. You were. 846 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: I think it's unfair that we were robbed from that moment. 847 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest. I wasn't ye, I was 848 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: there in the flesh. Yeah, you can going into the 849 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: truth or dared date. What was the toughest challenge for 850 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: you on that one? Because we did the the speaker 851 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: phone orgasm. Obviously, the wax scene you needed Chris Harrison 852 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 1: to sign some part of your body the movies, Yeah, 853 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: and then the Hobniro Pepper proposal. So the orgasm one 854 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: was was hard because I was the very first guided 855 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, I, I you know how those group 856 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: dates are. You have no idea what the hell is 857 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: going on, and you just get thrown and that's how 858 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: it was. It was like we opened the card and 859 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: we're like, what the fuck is this and then all 860 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like you guys are on the speaker 861 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: like three two one. I just grabbed the phone and 862 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just started screaming and I was like, 863 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit. And then Blake went and 864 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: like he took it to a whole nother hole. Blake 865 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: took it to another level. Blake was leg up on 866 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: that podium. Blake, I'm surprising. It was like makes the noise, 867 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: not the motion. And I was taking I was getting 868 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: good angle pictures and I don't know where those are at, 869 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: but there's more floating around. Yeah, those are also out 870 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: there somewhere. So what was your favorite challenge of that date? Um? 871 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: I actually uh messed around with Chris. Was pretty funny. Uh, 872 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: just we were trying to get him. We were trying 873 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: to see how far Chris would go as far as 874 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: where he would sign his autograph. Where did he? Uh, 875 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: he just ended up signing on my ass sheet, but 876 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: just on as. There's a picture of that too somewhere 877 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: that I hadn't seen yet. Uh. But yeah, we were 878 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, we threw other spots out there just to see, 879 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: you know, what he would say go for. Okay, So 880 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: for all the producers listening in on this podcast, we 881 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: need the polaroids people, We need the footage. There are 882 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: some good ones. Me and me and Blake specifically, our 883 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: polaroids are our gold. Whoever has him? Who did you 884 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: room with in Washington? Had the mansion at the resort, 885 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: I was with my boy Jordan Chapman. Oh okay, and 886 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: you guys went home all right? He at the same time, right, Yeah, 887 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: we were, Yeah, we were. We were connected all the 888 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: way through. We were in the limo together, limo roommates, 889 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: and then we went home together. That's such an interesting 890 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: mix because I feel like, you don't hold back, and 891 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: we see so much of you. And then he was 892 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 1: he to me, seemed so reserved and quiet the entire time. Yeah, 893 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 1: he's he's he's like a sweet guy, you know, he's 894 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: he's a little younger. Um, you know, Yeah, I don't know, 895 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: it's just a personality thing. I think most of the time, 896 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys held back, to be honest, 897 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think even me in the beginning, 898 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: like I was, you know, it's very uncomfortable, especially the 899 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: first night. I'm like, I didn't say shit the first 900 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: night in front of people in the interview, I did, 901 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: but it took me a minute to like kind of 902 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: feel out the situation before I was going to start 903 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: saying stuff, who because we saw you. I mean, granted 904 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't your first night, but it was Spencer's first 905 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: night when NASA and the new guys came in. Obviously 906 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: we saw you. Exchanged some pleasant tries with Spencer. But 907 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: right now, are you guys on good terms? Are you 908 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: pretty close with all of the guys still? Yeah? Me 909 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: and Spencer cool to be honest. After we kind of 910 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: called him out that night, he kind of changed to yeah, 911 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: I think so, And you know, I kind of when 912 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: when I said it, like I wasn't trying to be like, 913 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: you're a dickhead. It was more like you're being a dickhead, 914 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: you know. To me, there's a difference of like calling 915 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: somebody something or just saying you're acting like something, if 916 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well, it was well warranted, and we 917 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: had Spencer on the podcast and she owned to it, 918 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: owned up to it. It was kind of like, yeah, 919 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: I laid low after that, and he said he has 920 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: a great relationship with most of the guys in the house, 921 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: which it's great, Like, you know, we love to see 922 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: everyone get along at the end of the day. Um, So, obviously, 923 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: the dynamic from going from Claire cetatia is something we've 924 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: never seen before. And you know, whether you're a fan 925 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: of the show or not, no one has ever experienced 926 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: anything like this. What was that like that shift and 927 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: what was the mood in the house, because so tell 928 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: us what we didn't see. There's a lot. You're the 929 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: best person to asked this question too, too, Jesus. Um. 930 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I I started. I was asking 931 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of questions before it even got to that point, 932 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: like sort of picking up on what the hell is 933 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: going on? Um? I to be honest, I feel like 934 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: some guy, A lot of other guys may have also, 935 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: but they did. No one just really wanted to say 936 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: it because they probably were may have been scared that 937 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: they would have got sent home if they because Claire 938 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: would have been she was firing people off. You know, 939 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: you never knew she could walk walk you she'll walk 940 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: in and okay, you three are out, you know, So 941 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to say anything. Yeah, but but back to 942 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 1: your question. So they're like it was actually actually when 943 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: she confronted the house, it was like a sigh of 944 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: relief because like, finally we had some kind of like 945 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: closure to this, like fucked up situation that had been 946 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: going on, like whether it was the show's over or 947 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. We just wanted an answer, you 948 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: know how that is it was there was so much 949 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: gray area, and um, you know, for me personally, I 950 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: had zero connections with Claire and we didn't really talk much. 951 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: And you know, and I don't have anything. I like 952 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: not saying she's a bad person or anything. It's you know, 953 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: all it's just me personally with her. Yeah, nothing. So 954 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: for me, I was like all right, like what are 955 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: we doing now? Like what's next? And then when Tatia 956 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: came in, it was great because it felt like it 957 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: was like this new chance and there was only at 958 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: that time, there was only sixteen guys, and like the 959 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: guys were close at that point because what was going on, 960 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: so like the vibe was really good in the house 961 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: at that point, like when Tatia came on, and then 962 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 1: of course, like when they introduced the new guys, like 963 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: that fucking changed everything that night, and then all of 964 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, I was back to like this is fucked. 965 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: Y'all couldn't catch a break my gosh. I mean, I 966 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: mean with Statia, I was happy for her that she 967 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: at least got the experience of having the limos come 968 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: up with the guys. But for you guys, it's like, 969 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Kenny, what was it like in the house. Seriously, 970 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: every day where y'all like we have no idea what's 971 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 1: going to happen. Every day was a surprise. You never 972 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 1: knew what you were going to get. You never even 973 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: knew of Claire would show up. What. I can't imagine 974 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: that experience. On top of that, it was like one 975 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty degrees out every day and it's just 976 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: like this nasty, It's just it was it was, you know, 977 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: the uncertainty. I hate that, and it's just and like 978 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: you said, it was just completely like the one day 979 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: the guys were getting ready to go out on a 980 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: group date or some shit, and they were getting ready 981 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: and and then she they were like stalling them for 982 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: like a while, and then all of a sudden she 983 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: like called it off, and it was like, it's just like, 984 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: it's just exactly what you said. It's just it was 985 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: like chaos, and I don't know, it was weird. Do 986 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 1: you have Do you feel like you had a good time? 987 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we saw you go home in this episode. 988 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: But part of the beauty of all of this is 989 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: the friendships that you make because you spend more time 990 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: with the people you're living with than you do with 991 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: the actual lead. Even if you go to the very 992 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: in did you at least enjoy yourself? Because Becca and 993 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: I've both spent time at Lakina and I was bored. 994 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: So my ass off, Yeah, like, did you did you 995 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,439 Speaker 1: at least have fun? Was it? A? Was it? Because 996 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: I hate that you guys didn't. I hate the mansion. 997 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: That's an overrated experience, but just like the traveling and 998 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: all of that, Um, did you at least have a 999 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: good time? I dude, I I loved it, especially now 1000 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: that I look back at it and where I'm at 1001 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,959 Speaker 1: now with it, like I was, I love it even 1002 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: more thinking back, like in real time. There was plenty 1003 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: of times where I'm like, I don't give a fuck 1004 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: if I go home right now, Like it was there there, 1005 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: but like you said, with the weather and it was 1006 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: like it was just kind of like with the clear 1007 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: stuff and there was just so much bullshit. Um, but 1008 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: you know it was. I wouldn't I would do it 1009 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: one hundred times. You know, it was great. You know, 1010 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: so I want to ask this because now that you 1011 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: kind of know what to expect and what goes into filming. 1012 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: Obviously did not have a normal season, But would you 1013 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: ever do it again, like say on Paradise? Oh yeah, 1014 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: I would love to do it. Are made for Paradise 1015 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be walking down the beach naked on Paradise. 1016 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how I was naked so 1017 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: much on the season. I don't even know how that happened, 1018 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: but I'm sure he was planned, not from you, from production, somebody. 1019 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: Somebody tricked me into something, somebody wanted to see the 1020 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: abside day, Chris Harrison was around it, somehow I was naked. 1021 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: How that worked up? Well? You we talk about this 1022 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 1: on the podcast. You men have a huge man crush 1023 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: on Chris Harrison, and you y'all got to spend more 1024 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: time with him than normally contestants. You never really see 1025 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: Chris except at a Rose ceremony or something bad happened. 1026 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: Y'all were right there. Yes, you're all living together, so 1027 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: I know y'all were broken big time fanning out over 1028 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: him because the men loved Chris Harrison. Plus he had 1029 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: to come visit us every minute to tell us what 1030 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: the hell was going on, because yeah, usually when Chris comes, 1031 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: it's I mean, well in this in your in your case, 1032 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: so it's always with bad news. But like for me, 1033 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: every time Chris would come into the mansion, all the 1034 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: girls would be like, oh no, what bad news is 1035 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: it going to bring in? He was just popping in 1036 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: daily for you guys because one of you he was 1037 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: probably bored too, just wanted to hang out. Hey. Yeah, 1038 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: But going back to what you were saying, like doing 1039 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: if if paradise happened or anything in the future, like 1040 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: knowing how to navigate just stuff from day one and 1041 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: stuff I think is a huge plus you know going 1042 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: in because meaning like it could even lead to you 1043 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: getting more time with the girl or girls because you 1044 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: know how to kind of navigate some of the bullshit 1045 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 1: to get yourself to go talk to the girl more. 1046 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: If that makes But well, before we move on to game, 1047 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: portion to challenge your managerial skills, I'll know how good 1048 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: of a manager you are if we're able to have 1049 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: some type of integration with boy band night on the Bachelor. 1050 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,439 Speaker 1: All right, have you not already have you already thought 1051 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: of this? Because this should happen. We've never had a 1052 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: boy band. Well, we had Backstory Boys, but they it 1053 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: was more of like a date. Um, it wasn't like 1054 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: a performance where they were serenading a couple on a 1055 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: one on one. We need to make this happen. Oh 1056 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 1: my god, in the background, like learning the moves. Please, 1057 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: I know the most insect. I don't need, I don't, 1058 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: I already know. Yeah, you're probably better. Our guys aren't 1059 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: the greatest dancers in the world, but they get by. 1060 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: They're okay. I'm so intrigued to see this. I want 1061 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: to do that like them. Do they dress up like 1062 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: them as well? They look like are The look of 1063 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: the guys looks just like back Street Boys are intinc 1064 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: would look a combination between now and like we don't 1065 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: we don't go. We don't dress. They don't do like 1066 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: the cheesy nineties stuff anymore that they can sort of 1067 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: dress in modern So if you saw Baxtry Boys now, 1068 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: it kind of looks like that sort of, but it's 1069 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: definitely the same feel. Tell your favorite groupie story, not 1070 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: if you I love it. I love it. I know groupies. 1071 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: You know what I meant back in the day. Who knows? Yeah, 1072 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: I get all the guys in trouble. I can't even 1073 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: talk about this. So how many times do you have 1074 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 1: to pick panties up off the stage? How many bras 1075 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: average concert night are thrown on stage? There's there's we 1076 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: had a little collection going in in our vand in 1077 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: our y. We keep them in the band. We have 1078 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: a vand our band band. Like girls go wild over 1079 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: a band that can sing, play instruments like this is 1080 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 1: the Like, I know, there's some good stories to be told. 1081 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you know. What was wild is we did 1082 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: a couple shows in Canada and being you know, it 1083 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: was just they kind of they treated us like we 1084 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: were like yeah, Like after the show there was like 1085 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: a huge line to take pictures and autographs, you know, 1086 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: and we're just a couple assholes from Chicago. It's just 1087 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: so the guys, you know, it's cool. Uh And like 1088 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: I said, they put on a good show and it's 1089 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: very pro level stuff. But you know, at the end 1090 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: of the day, we're still just dudes. You know, we're 1091 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: not famous. You know, you realize you never heard of 1092 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: it now though, like and and like in Canada they're 1093 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: big Bachelor fans, so now they're going to say, I know, oh, 1094 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: and our manager is Kitty from The Bachelorette, and I mean, 1095 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: you know you thought you almost blown up since coming 1096 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: off the show. Uh, it's it's been pretty It's been 1097 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 1: pretty wild. That's good, pretty wild, steady flow. Okay, Kenny. 1098 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I do have one last question before we get into 1099 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: the game, and I asked this for every guest that 1100 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: we have on. But overall, what was your rose and 1101 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: thorn of the season, So your highlight and low light? 1102 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, Um, I'm actually gonna say that my highlight 1103 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: was just, honestly, was just some of the I have 1104 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: some really great friendships right now with some of the guys, 1105 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: and I didn't expect that, honestly, Um that that's sort 1106 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: of my my highlight of it, and my I think 1107 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: my thorn would have been telling you to be quiet. 1108 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I should never have done it. Oh, thank you. It was. 1109 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I deserved it, so it's okay. I can 1110 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: take it, So don't worry. I should never have said that, Ken, 1111 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: that you went home. I was yes and no, like 1112 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: like I was saying early that whole day after I 1113 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: after the whole thing with that, then I sweared and 1114 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I swear to god, you can even blame me. No, no, no, no, no, 1115 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: just it wasn't just that. That was like the start 1116 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: of it. And then that night it was the you know, 1117 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: one on one time I had with Tasia, and it 1118 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: just I didn't our conversation. I could tell wasn't working, 1119 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: and I knew I was going home. I had a 1120 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 1: bad feeling I was going home after that. So the 1121 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: whole next day I'm like, I'm going home tonight but 1122 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: a little piece, and he was like, I, you know, 1123 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: maybe not. But I ended up going home that night. 1124 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I actually, now that I'm thinking back to the day 1125 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: when Sidney and I were there with you guys, I 1126 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: remember Tatias saying. I asked her, I was like, so, 1127 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: what guy like is giving you the most attention right now? 1128 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Because you know, when you're on a group date, it's 1129 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: everyone's vines with the attention, but it's awkward, like you 1130 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 1: have to reposition the cameras and everyone's running aroun and 1131 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. And I asked her, I 1132 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: was like, who's like, who do you feel like is 1133 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: super attentive? And she said you, oh really, yeah, So 1134 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually that's why that's why I before we had 1135 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: you on. I was like, wait, Kenny went home this 1136 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: week right, Like, I don't remember that and I didn't 1137 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: expect it. So I think that's why we're asking you 1138 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: if you if you like saw it coming. I think it, 1139 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 1: like I said, I think it was more from later 1140 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: that evening. I just don't think she she just came 1141 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: up like that. I couldn't be I don't think she 1142 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: was thought I was serious because I was always sort 1143 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 1: of having fun with everything and joking and laughing, and 1144 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I it's the conversation turned, you know that way, and 1145 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 1: that's that's I don't know. I don't know what her 1146 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: thought process was, um personally, I mean, I don't think 1147 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: that I got enough time to show her. Maybe yeah, 1148 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: obviously I can't be serious if it's a serious if 1149 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 1: it's time to be serious, I could be as serious 1150 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: as anybody else. Still, I just didn't get a chance 1151 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 1: to do that. Group dates are hard for that really 1152 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: are the worst. Sometimes it's so hard. Kenny, and I'm 1153 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: laughing because I'm just reminded of my Texas accent and 1154 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: when I lived in the Midwest. One of my first 1155 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: friends in law school was like, I went to my 1156 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: kid and he was like, why do you keep saying 1157 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: my name like that? And I was like, it's Kenny, 1158 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, it's Kenny. And I know 1159 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's my Texas accent. And so I 1160 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: just heard myself say Kenny and the whole time I've 1161 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: been saying Kenny, but fuck it, it's Kinny. That's what 1162 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: I want to call you. I love Southern accent. I 1163 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: love Southern accent. Well, let me just keep talking this way, please, 1164 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: but I have to ask you this question. I'm so sorry. 1165 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: I keep we keep saying it's the last one, but 1166 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I gotta know it. How many when it comes to 1167 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 1: a man's when it comes to a caller button down shirt? 1168 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: How many buttons? How many buttons button do you believe? 1169 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I know? And I was very luck we how many 1170 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: buttons do you believe should be unbuttoned? Because Kitty, I 1171 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: swear every single time we saw you row ceremony and 1172 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: I a portion five to six buttons, And but what 1173 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: is the acceptable not? I don't. It's so so fucked 1174 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: up because watching it back, I'm like, I didn't remember 1175 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 1: having that many buttons down, because like, how many time 1176 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 1: we saw like every scene, it's like one more and 1177 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: then one more and then one more. It's like the 1178 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: belly button is and it was some of them, Yeah, 1179 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: no I don't. I don't usually no more than the first, 1180 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: like the three is usually like for me. Like, but 1181 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: like there was one scene that it looked like I 1182 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't have any button from the side, and I'm like, 1183 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 1: what the fuck am I doing? Like I didn't even know. 1184 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 1: It was like you were working with what you got. 1185 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: You said, you know, let me stand out, let me 1186 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: stay out out. It had to ASK's a good question, 1187 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: that's you good question. Okay, So before we let you go, 1188 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: we'd love to play games with all of our listen. Well, 1189 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: we love our listeners, love when we play games, but 1190 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: we love to play with everyone, all our guests who 1191 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: come on the show. So we've had a few of 1192 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: the men from your season on our podcast already, and 1193 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 1: one thing is unanimous is that you have the absolute 1194 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: best abs in the house. So with that being said, 1195 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: we're going to play a fun game and it's called 1196 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: absolutely or absolutely not okay, yes, okay, And adding on 1197 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 1: to our original scene, I think every guy that we 1198 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: have had on has attested to you having the best abs. 1199 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: So here's how it's gonna work. We're gonna simply ask 1200 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: you a series of questions and then you just have 1201 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,320 Speaker 1: to answer absolutely, We're absolutely not. Okay, okay, okay, easy enough, right, 1202 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: got um. I'm going to kick it off since I 1203 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: was on this day with you, But Kenny, do you 1204 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: actually sound like that during an orgasm? Absolutely? Wait. I 1205 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 1: was waiting for the not women you dated in the past. 1206 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: You said something like you if you heard that, you 1207 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: were going to take me to the hospital or something. 1208 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I think said yeah. I was like, I have to 1209 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 1: take him to the ear. And then in an interview, 1210 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I was asked like, would you take any of them 1211 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to the fantasy Suite? And I was like, absolutely not. 1212 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: One of the guys sounded like he was on a 1213 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: business call, like he was just standing there, like not moving, 1214 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 1: not like giving anything, and I was like, this is 1215 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: not a zoom meeting with your mother. No. Yeah, some 1216 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: of them were pretty cringe worthy. I think all of them. 1217 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, all of them from what we saw. 1218 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 1: You saw everything, but the ones we solved were not. Okay. Yeah, 1219 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 1: but okay, thank you for being honest. Yeah. Absolutely? Uh 1220 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: do you think in sync is better than Backstreet Boys. 1221 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I absolutely usually go within sync, mostly because I do 1222 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: love justin Timberlake. M hm, So that's why it tips 1223 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,600 Speaker 1: to end sync for me. But I think, um, I 1224 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: like dirty pop and it's gonna be me or usually 1225 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: like those are my favorites. Uh, may, yeah, it's gonna 1226 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: be May. Wait. Do you guys remember their song? What 1227 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: was it? It's like, uh, what's the one where it's 1228 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 1: like it's Friday night. Oh, it's like the paid I 1229 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: just got paid or something just got paid. Yeah, that's 1230 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that's early and that's that for jazz class in 1231 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 1: fifth grade. If anyone cares, absolutely, I absolutely care. Okay, Uh, 1232 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 1: next one, I guess this is a good one. Do 1233 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: you regret anything that you did or didn't do on 1234 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the show. Uh? Absolutely. I absolutely regret some stuff that 1235 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: I didn't do. Oh, which would be what um just 1236 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: being there was there was moments where I think, you know, 1237 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 1: I could have made more of a presence with the 1238 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: with the with Tasha, you know, okay you know that 1239 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, you know I look back 1240 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: at you know, like uh like last episode, you know, 1241 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: something like with Noah jump in the fence or something 1242 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: like that, like I look back at that and be like, yeah, 1243 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I should have did that, you know something like that. Yeah. 1244 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Does any part of you wish that you came on 1245 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: a season with less turmoil? Absolutely not. I this the 1246 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: turmoil is actually was actually perfect for me. It was honestly, 1247 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 1: like this all the stuff with Claire in the drama stuff, 1248 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: like I felt like I was at work. Honestly, it 1249 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 1: is not getting paid this time. Yeah, well I ain't 1250 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 1: getting paid at work anymore either. Right now we're closed. 1251 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Uh yeah, okay, Um, did you cry 1252 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: during filming? H No, absolutely not. Yeah, Okay. Did you 1253 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 1: believe Ed when he said Chason was there for the 1254 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: wrong reason? Did I? Did? I believe Ed? Mm hmm 1255 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 1: when he said Chason was there for the wrong reasons? Absolutely? 1256 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely only. And I say that because Ed I was 1257 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: kind of close with that, So in the moment of it, 1258 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: I would you know, I was gonna side with him, 1259 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: And it was one of those things where I I didn't. 1260 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't something like I personally saw myself, but like 1261 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: if one of my buddies is like, hey, this is 1262 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,560 Speaker 1: what I got to see, I'm like, all right, you know, 1263 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with down ask friend. Yep, yeah, I 1264 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,759 Speaker 1: mean and we are fans of d. On the podcast, 1265 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Bennett said he's the funniest person. He's hilarious and yeah, 1266 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,880 Speaker 1: he's like we didn't even get to see it that way, 1267 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 1: but I mean him naming the baby Carlos is all 1268 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 1: I need to know. I can know it's funning with that. Yeah, 1269 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 1: and I love chasing like they're both great guys. It's 1270 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: just pertaining to your question. Yeah, that's right one. Uh, 1271 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: do you think Noah has the right intentions? Absolutely not? 1272 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Come on? Is Noah in the group chat? Yeah? Is 1273 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Noah in it? I have no comments on the group chat? No, No, 1274 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: I think we didn't chat all the time. You didn't. 1275 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, we goodn't sensor say all of the 1276 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: guys are besides Joseph. No, he only commented on Joseph. 1277 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,639 Speaker 1: He wouldn't say. He was like, I'll tell you Joseph's 1278 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 1: not in it, but he luded that there might be 1279 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,879 Speaker 1: somebody else that's not in the group chat. Uh, Joseph's 1280 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: definitely not on there. Noah's on there though. Okay, well 1281 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 1: that's what about the other guys that came in later 1282 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: with Noah, but went home right away. Like, what was 1283 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: his name last week, Rachel that we were talking about. 1284 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I told you he's a sound guy. I've never seen 1285 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: that dude in my entire life. What was his name? Scott? Peter? Oh, Peter, 1286 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 1: yea never, We'd never heard of a Peter before. All 1287 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,879 Speaker 1: the Peters we knew were on my season and The Bachelor, 1288 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: I've never who's Peter Peter. I only knew Peter for 1289 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: a hot minute. He was a nice guy, and then 1290 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, to be honest, did he make the 1291 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: group chat. No, Peters don't do well on this show, 1292 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it was like a lot 1293 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: of the core obviously was like the dudes that were 1294 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: left over after Claire left, Like that was like the 1295 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: core group, Like the Sweet sixteen guys like that was 1296 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: like a core group. And then we, you know, Spencer 1297 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: and Noah, you know, got adapted into that eventually. I 1298 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: love that you call yourselves the Sweet sixteen. That's what 1299 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 1: it's a It's a sports term, and I love it. 1300 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: I got to draft on right now in the background. Um, okay, 1301 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 1: do you think Spencer deserved the first impression? Rose? Absolutely not, 1302 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Why because he had just come into the season. 1303 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 1: Uh no, because I mean that was tatious first night too, 1304 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 1: So I get you know, it technically doesn't matter because 1305 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 1: it was her to her, it was meeting everybody the 1306 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: first time, and I didn't know Tash either, so everything 1307 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 1: was the first sight night. Um. I just it's just 1308 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 1: hard for me to say yes, just because of the 1309 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: attitude that night. Um. But again, I don't know what 1310 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 1: his limo entrance was. I don't know what he said 1311 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. From what I seen, she was she 1312 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,439 Speaker 1: was quite attracted to him, you know, So I you know, 1313 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't you know. Obviously it was her decision. But 1314 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: if you're asking me, no, absolutely not. Who would you 1315 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: have given your first impression road too, out of all 1316 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: the men? Oh that's easy, mister, Jason Foster's my my 1317 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 1: first impression roads Oh, Rachel, Are you even tell Jason 1318 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 1: to find into his dms? He's always an I d's 1319 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 1: in the one that went home after Claire Jason, Oh 1320 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: like that. You were Lucy the other week when we 1321 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: were talking about it. What you like if you don't 1322 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,640 Speaker 1: come on the podcast once you go home, I go 1323 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 1: home too. I don't know you anymore. And it's I 1324 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: think it was the last name that threw me off. Yes, 1325 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: we really like Jason. Yes, um, that's okay. That well 1326 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 1: that question, that was just me throwing one out there. 1327 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 1: So going back to Tasia, if she didn't find love 1328 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: on the show, would you slide into her DMS to 1329 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: try it, try and give it a second chance? Absolutely? Yeah, Okay, 1330 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 1: not not because not not that. Um I think that 1331 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 1: it would. I was like in love with her or anything, 1332 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: but I thought she was. I thought it would. We 1333 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: had a fun little thing of a connection and it 1334 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,519 Speaker 1: was obviously just very very shallow. Not there wasn't no 1335 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,760 Speaker 1: depth obviously to any of it. But um so maybe 1336 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,720 Speaker 1: not so much to like pursue anything, but like I 1337 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 1: feel like she would be a good friend, you know, 1338 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 1: at least yeah, you know, it's not like I hate 1339 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 1: her or something like. You know, so so I would 1340 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, that's a trick question. That's a trick es. No. No. 1341 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 1: A lot of the guys, I mean, Becca, we're friendly with. 1342 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm friendly with almost every guy with them, so most 1343 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 1: of them do slide in your DMS at some point. Oh, 1344 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's like everybody kind of shared this, 1345 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 1: like traumatic experience together. Okay, last one, do you think 1346 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: you have the best ABS on the show? Absolutely? I mean, 1347 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 1: come on, now, we're playing a freaking game with you 1348 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 1: called abs clearly clearly we agree. Absolutely absolutely. Oh kid, 1349 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 1: you've been fantastic. Oh thank you. Thanks for having me on. 1350 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,679 Speaker 1: It's it's awesome. It's good to hang out with you guys. Yeah, 1351 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: before we had you on, I was telling Rachel, it's 1352 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: so nice that I feel like we were finally starting 1353 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,600 Speaker 1: to see all of the guys and your personalities and 1354 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: like relationships with Tasia and the other guys actually come 1355 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 1: out at this point. But we love having you guys 1356 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 1: on to just ask you these questions and play these 1357 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 1: games and get to know you on a more personal 1358 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 1: level that you wouldn't see out of the show. So 1359 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 1: we're thrilled to have you. Thank you so much. Wait, 1360 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,360 Speaker 1: what's your take on Bennett because both of y'all are 1361 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 1: very condescending and sarcastic. Or is it just too much 1362 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 1: when the two of you are in the room. Uh No, 1363 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: Actually I feel like Bennet's my boy, Like I would 1364 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 1: back him in a fight, Like if we're fighting, I 1365 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 1: would help him off. Yeah, who would you not after um, 1366 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 1: you know, no, I'd have to let know him be 1367 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: on his own. You know, he's if he's gonna get 1368 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: in a fight, I don't know if i'd back him 1369 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: or not. No, I probably would. I probably would. I 1370 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 1: like to, I like to rag on him, but uh, yeah, 1371 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: he's they're all good guys, you know, it's he's he's 1372 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 1: a good guy at heart. So that's good. We're glad 1373 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 1: that you you you got along with the men, You 1374 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 1: had a good time. You were pleasantly surprised. It's always 1375 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 1: the beauty of this when you're beautifully surprised with friendships 1376 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: that you never thought that you'd have going into this, 1377 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: and they will be friendships at last a lifetime. Kenny, 1378 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasures. Now up the fuck up, he 1379 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 1: was writing, I will, I will, We'll see I'm sure soon. Bye, Kenny, 1380 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thanks guys, Thanks guys, n by 1381 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: bye Kenny. I did not disappoint. I love when the 1382 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,560 Speaker 1: guys or whoever it may be, the guests come on 1383 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: the show and they're the same or even better when 1384 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: we get to talk to them on the podcast. You know, great, 1385 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: he was fun. I like how we what we see 1386 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 1: on TV is what we see here and having him 1387 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 1: interact with us, and that's I think, like and for 1388 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: all of our listeners who think, like the show scripted 1389 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: and it's fake, like he's exhibit a of like he's 1390 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: just who he is and it's very charming and I'm 1391 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 1: glad that we had him on. I will say I 1392 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 1: didn't expect him to go home this week. I did. 1393 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: I did. I don't want to tell Kenny that, but 1394 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,680 Speaker 1: I did. I stopped coming. I mean, he couldn't have 1395 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 1: a below the surface conversation with Tatia. And I think 1396 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 1: things are heightened for Tatia because of how she came 1397 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 1: in after Claire, and she's really taking this. She doesn't 1398 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: have time to have the playful relationships because she doesn't 1399 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,640 Speaker 1: have the same amount of time that normal leeds have. 1400 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: So and I respect her for that. I love that 1401 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 1: that's how she's navigating it. But Kenny, Kenny was great. 1402 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: I love that Kenny didn't hold back on answers. And 1403 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 1: what I truly love is that when he talks about 1404 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: what he wished he would have done better, it's he 1405 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: wished he would have done better and exploring his relationship 1406 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,560 Speaker 1: with Tasia. So I love that, that's that he's reflected 1407 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: on that and wish he would have done a little 1408 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 1: bit more, which also goes to show how greatatious you know, 1409 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: he has no if he understands why he went home 1410 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: and he wishes he would have done a little bit better. Yeah, 1411 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: another reason of why the cast this year or this 1412 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: season is so great. They're just they're at another level, 1413 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 1: the maturity level, just like the banter, the wittiness, everything like, 1414 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,719 Speaker 1: it's just a good group of guys. So I can't 1415 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: happy we're able to have him on, you know. To 1416 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 1: be quite frank, I'm sure we're going to see much 1417 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: more of him on some future show at some point, 1418 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 1: or just boy band night period. I gotta see them, 1419 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't want We're going, we're flying to Chicago when 1420 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 1: we can start to travel again. We're going we're going 1421 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 1: to make a night of it. Yes, so we might 1422 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 1: be up there dancing with them. Who knows soul bring 1423 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 1: back past life? All right, everybody, thanks for hanging out 1424 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: with us again today. If you have any questions for 1425 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,720 Speaker 1: any of the contestants, make sure you send them to 1426 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 1: our social Hopefully you know where to find us at 1427 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: this point. But we're putting these guys in the hot 1428 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: seat over the next few weeks, So don't miss the 1429 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,679 Speaker 1: opportunity to throw all of your questions at us into 1430 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 1: the mix, because we're looking up for them and so 1431 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 1: whatever step But you can find us at Bachelor Happy 1432 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,799 Speaker 1: Hour on Instagram or at Batch Happy Hour on Facebook 1433 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: and Twitter, and last Vanelli's do not oh wait, no no, 1434 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 1: Before we do this whole spield, Rachel, I have to 1435 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 1: say your bottles of Bordone are coming in the mail. 1436 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: And for all of our listeners who don't know what 1437 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: that is, Bordone is a sparkling wineline that I am 1438 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,320 Speaker 1: launching and pre orders are ready now. 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