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Speaker 1: Were welcome in DC's on Fat Trail is on Big Facts,
Speaker 1: Fat Trail. What's up? What's up? What's up? Trail? Welcome man,
Speaker 1: everything with you. I really appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 2: You've been on our list of people to have a
Speaker 2: conversation with for some time, so we know were thankful
Speaker 2: that we could.
Speaker 4: Finally make it happen. Thankful for that, man, for real.
Speaker 4: I'm blessing humble for that for real, man, the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Sure. So what what kind of space is Fat Trailing
Speaker 1: like currently? Man?
Speaker 4: What kind of energy are you? Honestly, man, I'm in.
Speaker 4: I'm in father more more than anything right now, just
Speaker 4: catching up time with my kids and you're not. Finally
Speaker 4: got full custody of my oldest daughter, so I'm like
Speaker 4: a full.
Speaker 1: Time parent now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got three kids, but my oldest daughter to
Speaker 4: live with me, so I'm like a full time taking
Speaker 4: her the school every day and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I'm outside of the artistry.
Speaker 4: I'm on father time like most of all now because
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to stay out of trouble.
Speaker 1: And that, and that's what I was gonna get at it,
Speaker 1: you know, make you as a brother. Man.
Speaker 2: The fans want to see you put it all the
Speaker 2: way into that music. Be the fat trail they want
Speaker 2: you to be. So that's the only complaint with you,
Speaker 2: Like fat Trail, don't be around. How We're gonna stay
Speaker 2: out the bs this time.
Speaker 1: Just make better decisions.
Speaker 4: And I had to tighten up my circle, man, and
Speaker 4: stop running with a lot of dudes and just make
Speaker 4: better choices.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, I gotta understand that I'm at the age
Speaker 4: where every decision I make is a reaction to it.
Speaker 4: And so you know, I just don't feel the need
Speaker 4: to be my own security no more. Man, And I'm
Speaker 4: gonna just you know, let them job, man, because I
Speaker 4: just you know, young, just young and making decisions and
Speaker 4: having a lot of money and just really not feeling
Speaker 4: the need for security and having ego and prior issues too.
Speaker 4: And now I'm glad that I'm at the age where
Speaker 4: I can admit that my private is in a way
Speaker 4: when I was younger, because I did a lot of
Speaker 4: things that I absolutely didn't have to do and prison
Speaker 4: open my eyes, you know, having my freedom stripped away
Speaker 4: from you. You know, now, no I used to grow
Speaker 4: up always and say that I ain't never going to jail,
Speaker 4: especially with.
Speaker 1: All my friends around what my friends were doing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I ain't never going to jail, But I
Speaker 4: went and did a four year bid and to see
Speaker 4: what can happen when you get your freedom stripped away
Speaker 4: from you automatically, Like, man, I don't want that feeling
Speaker 4: no more, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you think you think a lot of that is
Speaker 2: being at home, like being in DC. You think to
Speaker 2: ultimately be on that path, you gotta maybe just get
Speaker 2: away from home.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: I was just trying to bank that, like to be honest,
Speaker 4: like you could get killed anywhere, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You got to be on your p's and q's anywhere,
Speaker 4: like they shooting up churches, malls, moved theater, schools, whatever. Okay, cool,
Speaker 4: But you know when you're from a city and you've
Speaker 4: been thug since they're young, and then you know everybody
Speaker 4: watching you come up, and you know, some people love
Speaker 4: to see it, some people fake love to see it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, it is a lot about
Speaker 1: my city.
Speaker 4: So once I've done with this probation and parole stuff,
Speaker 4: and they definitely move out of town.
Speaker 5: So kind of just like going back to the beginning.
Speaker 5: What was it like for a fat trail, the young
Speaker 5: fat trail growing up in DC.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, my mother, she when she she worked
Speaker 4: and went to school. She was raising three boys. I'm
Speaker 4: the youngest of three. It was just me and my
Speaker 4: two brothers and my mother in the house. And I
Speaker 4: just remember her due to her job in school not
Speaker 4: being there a lot, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 4: when you get to the age where you finally realizing
Speaker 4: what you do have and what you don't have, and
Speaker 4: what you could possibly have. And so I just started
Speaker 4: trying to prevent for the family, you know, and I left.
Speaker 4: I left my mother house first. I left when I
Speaker 4: was like fifteen or sixteen or something like that. I've
Speaker 4: always just been on my own and just trying to
Speaker 4: get some money in, trying to figure life out.
Speaker 6: Okay, what's uh what? I always want to know what
Speaker 6: Gleese like what that saying?
Speaker 1: That's glee a DC word.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gleish is a DC word that that word came
Speaker 4: out about I want to say, like two thousand and
Speaker 4: eleven or twelve or something, so gleeche. Like before gleiche
Speaker 4: it was, it was called ship bag. A ship bag
Speaker 4: is a person in the hood who do everything. Rob
Speaker 4: still killed, uh take when he don't have to. Just
Speaker 4: a person who do anything, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like a ship Yeah, like so so gleieh was a
Speaker 4: ship bag was a word for that, and then it
Speaker 4: went from ship bag to gleese. So you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, a lot of niggas consider themself as a
Speaker 4: as a gleice.
Speaker 3: I never know that because I got a buddy named
Speaker 3: Glease from.
Speaker 1: Up there in DC. Yeah, okay, he probably got their
Speaker 1: name from me.
Speaker 4: From me, man, I was the first I want to
Speaker 4: call it myself Glease in the city. But that's basically
Speaker 4: what that word is. It's just like a person who
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck. I really need to let that
Speaker 4: word go to.
Speaker 3: Stay on the positive path.
Speaker 6: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Like detured?
Speaker 7: You like made you feel like now I'm finished, step
Speaker 7: up and start taking acount of business.
Speaker 6: They'll me these my actions, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Wild? And like what what was the trigger part?
Speaker 4: You know, sitting in prison man and just sobering up
Speaker 4: and thinking about like, you got a lot of time
Speaker 4: on your hands. So I laid down a lot and
Speaker 4: I thought about how did I out of me? Like
Speaker 4: I got homies who never went to jail. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, wasn't druggling and doing everything, and they
Speaker 4: never went to jail. So I'm asking myself, tell, how
Speaker 4: the fuck did you end up with all these charges?
Speaker 4: And so I thought about it. I was spending too
Speaker 4: much time in traffic, you know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 4: I ain't at the studio or doing the show with
Speaker 4: my kids. I was always on the littest block, going
Speaker 4: to the block parties and going to this hood shooting
Speaker 4: nice leaders hood, go to that hoods shoots. I was
Speaker 4: always out and about, and I always like all my charges,
Speaker 4: I ain't never do nothing to get charged. Police always
Speaker 4: approached me, and I felt I had to think about it,
Speaker 4: like why does the police always approach me? Because you
Speaker 4: make yourself available to be approached, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Trying to stay in the mix and just like really
Speaker 4: focusing on having fun. I had this mind state where
Speaker 4: I told myself, if I ever got rich, I would
Speaker 4: never move out of town. To spend my riches and
Speaker 4: why not get rich and stay at DC and show
Speaker 4: the whole city that you could get rich and stay
Speaker 4: in the city. That's always been my mind state. But
Speaker 4: now that I look at it, it's like that was
Speaker 4: kind of like an immature line.
Speaker 7: Do you think like when you said that, do you think,
Speaker 7: like how much shit do you come pay up every day?
Speaker 1: Life? Man?
Speaker 6: I was thinking stupid as fuck? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You know how nigga be thinking stupid as fuck when
Speaker 6: you're young.
Speaker 4: About like five four or five times a day, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like when I read when even
Speaker 4: when I read the news, or you know, shiperta shiit
Speaker 4: pop up on your phone, or when I'm riding around
Speaker 4: through the city. I go to the studio, I hop
Speaker 4: out at the gas stations and get something to drink.
Speaker 4: I go to this restaurant and I see youngers on
Speaker 4: bullshit clutching ski mask is on.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, damn, man, I really used to be
Speaker 1: one of them, young man.
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like this dude or
Speaker 4: the other night, this dude kept asking me at the
Speaker 4: gas station, man, you want to buy some weed?
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm cool.
Speaker 4: Man, you sure man trying to I got this good
Speaker 4: weed and you're trying to force the weed on me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I don't hope. I hope broder
Speaker 1: in them know how to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like then, I thought about when I got back in
Speaker 4: the truck and we pulled off, I looked at him.
Speaker 1: I was like, Manil, it used to be you though.
Speaker 1: It used to be.
Speaker 4: Pressing people out to bay ship, So you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It was just like, damn, you don't want
Speaker 4: let me what you're doing up the nigga?
Speaker 1: Can't you know what I'm saying, Like, no, thank you,
Speaker 1: bro I'm cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she can go. Let real fast aggressiveselves.
Speaker 4: Man get everything. I just look at everything every like
Speaker 4: everything a play now. And you know everybody's so plotting
Speaker 4: and scheming on these artists now, and I just look
Speaker 4: at everything like it's a play. But to answer your question, man,
Speaker 4: it's at least about four or five times a day
Speaker 4: where I look back and just like, man, trail, you
Speaker 4: used to do some dumb shit.
Speaker 6: What's the shit you do to avoid that shit?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 6: Like the void going back into that mindset.
Speaker 1: Now, I try to.
Speaker 4: I look for ways to go spend more time with
Speaker 4: my children, man, like for real, Like my youngest son,
Speaker 4: he ate so he at that age where we could
Speaker 4: just talk and have conversations. Sometimes you want to go
Speaker 4: to the basketball court. Sometimes you want to stay in
Speaker 4: the house and chill. My daughter I take her on
Speaker 4: spot days. She get her here and Ni it was
Speaker 4: ther feet done. I just get my feet done, We chill, eat,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And like, those are the
Speaker 4: things that I missed out on because yeah, my job
Speaker 4: is busy, but I ain't gonna I was making excuses.
Speaker 1: I was making excuses as a man.
Speaker 4: I felt like, long as I'm paying financially for y'all,
Speaker 4: y'all don't want for no shoes or no clothes or
Speaker 4: laptops or Apple watches.
Speaker 1: Y'all can't complain. But I was. I needed to be there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that's just that's
Speaker 1: just part of my better decision man, doing the being
Speaker 1: to being in prison.
Speaker 2: Like obviously not having your freedom as one thing, but
Speaker 2: what's like some of the worst ship you experienced or
Speaker 2: saw in prison where you was like this ain't for me.
Speaker 1: I can't. I gotta get out and I ain't coming back.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a lot of things that happen in prison,
Speaker 4: but to something short, I would just say, like number
Speaker 4: one is losing your freedom to live, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and your freedom to purchase what food you
Speaker 4: would like to eat on a day to day basis.
Speaker 4: Like when you go to prison, you find out the
Speaker 4: most smallest things in the world mean the most, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 4: You know, it was a lot of disrespectful coos and
Speaker 4: lieutenants and some of the prisons that I went to,
Speaker 4: and so the inmates treated them as such. And you know,
Speaker 4: I never seen like I never witnessed men playing with
Speaker 4: piss and shit so much with these officers and like
Speaker 4: pissing them and shipping them.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, like they might take a they might take
Speaker 4: a bottle, Say that's a rock bottle, right, They might
Speaker 4: take that bottle, put some piss in it, put some
Speaker 4: shit in it, put some salmon water in it, some
Speaker 4: mouth or water in it. They might take the magic
Speaker 4: shaved cream, put it in there and set it in
Speaker 4: a bottle, shake it up, put it under the toilet
Speaker 4: for like a week, and then once and once once
Speaker 4: they take it out. They keep a sock wrapped around.
Speaker 4: So if a seal get disrespectful, or a seal might
Speaker 4: not want to feed you for some reason, why you
Speaker 4: might be in for killing a boy, and the CEO
Speaker 4: know that you're in for.
Speaker 1: Killing her nephew. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So when she worked, you don't eat, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So you get tired and not eating, she
Speaker 4: might come around and when you tell, excuseity man, I
Speaker 4: got medical emergency. They got to hear out medical emergencies.
Speaker 4: Or if you say, mat I feel like I want
Speaker 4: to kill myself, they got to take you out the
Speaker 4: cell and take you up the mental help.
Speaker 1: They have to. They can't. It's a law now.
Speaker 4: For sometimes they'll use that and then just bust bust
Speaker 4: you with shit, bush you with shit, and you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, shaved cream and you wipe it off,
Speaker 4: all your hair come off your face, your hair come
Speaker 4: out your head. I just never witnessed nobody playing with
Speaker 4: piss and shit like that until I went to prison.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that's a real thing, because
Speaker 4: that's the only way they could get you. They can't
Speaker 4: get you no other way, you.
Speaker 1: Know, neither to say after that you go into the
Speaker 1: hole or worse than I.
Speaker 4: Mean, it happens, and I ain't gonna lie. They do
Speaker 4: it on population too, but it happened. It happened mostly
Speaker 4: in the hole in the hole, and you know, seeals
Speaker 4: feel like they could carry you once you on the whole,
Speaker 4: once you go, it's fuck.
Speaker 1: You for real, for real, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that was just some of the crazy shit I've
Speaker 4: seen people I ain't never seen nobody play with.
Speaker 1: Fezis like that so freely, and it was.
Speaker 3: Like normal, Okay, yeah, let's let's get off that.
Speaker 5: So another thing that I wanted to talk to you
Speaker 5: about is like back when you first started doing music
Speaker 5: and how you build your relationship.
Speaker 4: With the la Okay, you know, meanwhile, they're from the
Speaker 4: same city, man, you know, he just he's just from Maryland.
Speaker 1: I'm from DC.
Speaker 4: But he always been a prominent, the most number one
Speaker 4: prominent rapper in our area. And I was doing this
Speaker 4: open mic circuit I had, Like when I first started rapping,
Speaker 4: we used to do it like at least three open
Speaker 4: nights a week, and the biggest open night was one
Speaker 4: night after like I say, like after six months, while
Speaker 4: they put a commercial on the radio and we're saying, Yo,
Speaker 4: I wanna be at Pure Lounge Monday. I want to
Speaker 4: do a time to show whoever win get a free
Speaker 4: verse and video from me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The interview with ninety three point nine and you know,
Speaker 4: long story short, I wanted I want a competition, and
Speaker 4: then our relationship just grew.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I just started chilling with him and just watching him create,
Speaker 4: and he was taking me on the road with him,
Speaker 4: on tour with him, watching him just do everything.
Speaker 1: I was just shadowing him.
Speaker 8: And then.
Speaker 4: That's how relationship built. Like you've always been like always
Speaker 4: looking at him like a big brother. And a lot
Speaker 4: of my success and a lot of my notoriety in
Speaker 4: the music industry I definitely got to thank for.
Speaker 1: In the room. Hearted dude too, Man, the best. I
Speaker 1: feel like Walle should just get both credit. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. A lot of a lot of.
Speaker 4: Show keep two hits every year constantly since I known them,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, And it ain't does a lot for
Speaker 5: a lot of people that is like totally behind the scenes, like.
Speaker 1: For real corial.
Speaker 4: So we just had k Kirkbone up here. Yeah, kurbmon
Speaker 4: og Kirbone, he's from Northeast. Man. Look, you know when
Speaker 4: you grow up, you when you're playing, when you're playing outside,
Speaker 4: niggas was calling themself Kurtbone and and I'm Tony Lews.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Tony Lewis too. Tony Lewis just came home.
Speaker 4: Niggas used to call theirself kurb On or Mike Frey.
Speaker 4: I'm Tony Lewis, and we used to run around and
Speaker 4: play pimpsil houseless, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, Kurbon like, that's original og. And he
Speaker 4: from my section of DC. He from Northeast. Definitely look
Speaker 4: up the Kurkbone. Shout out the Kirkbone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 2: How you deal with rap politics, man, like in DC
Speaker 2: or outside of d C obviously, if you ain't got
Speaker 2: no situation with nobody, but maybe two other rappers do,
Speaker 2: but they want to get a feature from you and
Speaker 2: all that ship, Like how does fat Trail dance around
Speaker 2: all that shit?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 4: I tried my best to be I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: rap politics is real too, by the way, But I
Speaker 4: just tried my best to be man nutrae man and
Speaker 4: I let him know. You know, look, I lost out
Speaker 4: on four years in my career. I don't want to
Speaker 4: get into the situations that y'all excuse me that y'all
Speaker 4: got going on.
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to make some money.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm trying to get my name back into the fold.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I need you and I
Speaker 1: need you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I wish I wasn't going through which I was going through.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, like I'm on my hustle man,
Speaker 4: and y'all been out here getting to the money and
Speaker 4: getting to the paper, and I'm trying to catch up.
Speaker 1: So if you can, man, find it out the kind
Speaker 1: of so of your hot man, allow people.
Speaker 4: Leave me all this, man, allow me to disspaper because
Speaker 4: I ain't on no snake shit. I never I never
Speaker 4: get a drop to where you at. I never throw
Speaker 4: no oopen. I ain't like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm real big on come up and so that's definitely
Speaker 4: out the question. So with that being said, I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to get some paper man. And I do respect war.
Speaker 4: I do respect beef, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: because I'm Washingtonian first for artists, and I do respect
Speaker 4: war and beef. I respect it whatever it be about
Speaker 4: something small or some big, if it's going on, I
Speaker 4: respect it. But at the same time, doing business, I
Speaker 4: want to be neutral and stay out of it and
Speaker 4: just work and just business. Yeah, And you know, like
Speaker 4: if I could, if I'm doing a song with him
Speaker 4: and you don't want to work with me, that's fine too.
Speaker 1: I respect that, but I want you.
Speaker 4: No, I don't feel no type of way about you either,
Speaker 4: Like it ain't no love lost with you even you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I see you, it's still all love.
Speaker 4: And nigga don't have to worry about being on their
Speaker 4: p's and q's when they see me because I'm doing
Speaker 4: music with this person.
Speaker 1: Ain't that type of nigga?
Speaker 6: What do you think different since you came home?
Speaker 1: Like in the music way, more interviews, it's way more.
Speaker 4: I never seen this many interviews and podcasts and artists speaking,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, I never that wasn't
Speaker 4: never a thing when I first started rapping, like interviews
Speaker 4: was where it was usually like the breakfast club, La
Speaker 4: Leaguers and maybe winning in Atlanta, and that's it, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Like one in the main statement.
Speaker 4: Now like every city you go to, you gotta sit
Speaker 4: down like at least three or four different blogs, which
Speaker 4: is dope though, yea yeah, because everybody got their own outlets,
Speaker 4: everybody got their own viewers, and everybody platform touch different
Speaker 4: people in different places.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of college students who love these things.
Speaker 4: So but other than that, I believe fashion when I
Speaker 4: first started rapping, fashion wasn't really what it is now
Speaker 4: and got too so I think fashion is bigger in
Speaker 4: the music industry too.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the Slutty Boys.
Speaker 5: Okay, I need to know how they started, where they're
Speaker 5: at now and what's going on with it. Then what's
Speaker 5: coming up?
Speaker 4: Well, the Slutty Boys, man, the Slutty Boys started before rap.
Speaker 4: We used to just call ourselves there because we was
Speaker 4: kind of just like, you know, to be blunt, like
Speaker 4: fucking a lot of girls.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 4: That's just started on that's just started on my stage,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So time the long time
Speaker 4: ago we started. We started Schlutty Boys, and like, oh
Speaker 4: six I remember being sixteen seventeen, called myself a schlutty boy,
Speaker 4: long before we got tattoos and anything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately, you know, the Schlutty Boys made some bad decisions,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: They made they made some bad decisions really to be
Speaker 1: a politician.
Speaker 3: Fortunately, if you can find it any kind of heart,
Speaker 3: they made.
Speaker 4: Some bad decisions, man, And to the point where I
Speaker 4: just I just felt like, you know, music as a man,
Speaker 4: music shouldn't be their main focus. Now I'm not they
Speaker 4: followed or nothing like, we was all just friends. I
Speaker 4: can't make that decision for them. I think they chose
Speaker 4: wisely to step away from music and you know, protect
Speaker 4: themselves and their family on a different level. So you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know where they where the Schlety Boys are now.
Speaker 4: I'm just by myself now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still love.
Speaker 5: You just had to separate yourself for the sake of
Speaker 5: your own personal better.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to see no harm done to them.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see him dead or locked up
Speaker 4: or nothing like that. But we just you know, part
Speaker 4: of part of ways. And I'm at an age now
Speaker 4: where I feel as though it's kind of better that way,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like because my mind is
Speaker 4: more clear and I can make better decisions to focus
Speaker 4: on myself more than my kids say us.
Speaker 2: They said anything else is about when I got big fat.
Speaker 4: So let me understand the tattoo situation. Just clarity clear
Speaker 4: up for everybody. So I ain't gonna pay again because
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're asking.
Speaker 2: What they say, you have a thirty totoos of thirty
Speaker 2: different women on your body. But I'm trying to understand
Speaker 2: is thatath I'm just trying to understand, first of all,
Speaker 2: is it true?
Speaker 1: Because it could just be bullshit? You know it's true.
Speaker 1: It's like I got like thirty three or thirty four,
Speaker 1: thirty three soon what? All right?
Speaker 4: So this is how it started, though, This is how
Speaker 4: it started. Me and my man we made a we
Speaker 4: made a deal that we're gonna we're gonna tap the
Speaker 4: bitches on us who we fuck with the most. Now,
Speaker 4: it ain't like every single girl fucked I got them tatted.
Speaker 4: It ain't like that.
Speaker 3: But the ones that thirty of them have been through
Speaker 3: the ringer.
Speaker 1: What's the ringer like you?
Speaker 3: They have been touched?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely no.
Speaker 4: But but but it's like I believe it's like one
Speaker 4: who hasn't been touched.
Speaker 3: But these are the thirty most important Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the most important and the most I don't
Speaker 4: want them use the word influentible, but the most.
Speaker 1: Like they missed something. They meant it was more than.
Speaker 4: Yeah, less something, it was more than sex and like, yeah, impactful.
Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, like, out of
Speaker 4: thirty four, twenty eight of them now, I could call
Speaker 4: them now and still pull up and go like if
Speaker 4: if if, if everything went bad tomorrow, I could still
Speaker 4: at least twenty eight of them, I could still pull up,
Speaker 4: Like you'll need them, I should stay and fucked up.
Speaker 1: And that's what it's about. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is why I think that is like because you kept
Speaker 1: solid with them.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I keep it solid with him, and we
Speaker 4: do for each other like it wasn't never. It wasn't never.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, sex player major role of course,
Speaker 4: but like being there for one another, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and helping one another, like a lot of
Speaker 4: them might help a lot of them helped me, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So and and therefore, I don't
Speaker 4: think our relationship should sour just because we both moving on.
Speaker 4: Like if I have on phone see you in eight years,
Speaker 4: I should be able to call you and be like,
Speaker 4: hey man, I just had to do an interview in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Don't you stay there on the street up? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get together. And it should that, it should
Speaker 4: always be a thing. So let me ask for the record,
Speaker 4: I'm not linking.
Speaker 1: Up with bitches.
Speaker 4: You absolutely go ahead, you're current?
Speaker 1: Yeah she been, Yeah, but she been sad? Yeah she been. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna keep my next question and shorten.
Speaker 5: But okay, So you know, how like they say, like
Speaker 5: you know, most bitches have like unbreakable bonds with like
Speaker 5: seven niggas and all that kind of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard that before.
Speaker 5: So how how like the twenty eight or thirty four
Speaker 5: or whatever shit that didn't kind of like complicate things
Speaker 5: for you, like having that type of bond with that
Speaker 5: many people.
Speaker 1: Nah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 4: Nah, I ain't never complicated things for me because I
Speaker 4: don't abuse it. You know what I'm saying, I don't
Speaker 4: abuse it to the point where. Yeah, like every time
Speaker 4: I'm New York City, I need to see you. It'll
Speaker 4: be fucking like Nah, it ain't like that. It's just like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's still mutual love for each other.
Speaker 5: These are these are These are twenty eight to thirty
Speaker 5: four people through an extended period of time.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. We started this probably like eight when
Speaker 4: I was like eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, leash, leash, So I was doing a bunch of young,
Speaker 1: dumb shit man. No more female tattoos for me, though.
Speaker 3: You got to get a change, like Drake.
Speaker 4: That's a dope ass change. Yeah, age. Once I seen
Speaker 4: it is beautiful. Yeah, once I seen what he made
Speaker 4: it from, I was just like, oh, that's hard.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, Damn, that's hard. I
Speaker 1: can't believe he was about to propose to that many women, though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm sitting here saying, but
Speaker 1: you know, love hit everybody different. Man. You know, he
Speaker 1: like skin man. You know what I'm saying that boy,
Speaker 1: I love dude. I thought I love fast Drake.
Speaker 4: Gotta love fast manout.
Speaker 1: Like preparing to propose to that many women.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I only wanted to propose
Speaker 4: to like three girls in my own like one or two.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, shout out to Drake man.
Speaker 2: If you were starting your own ship, like a label
Speaker 2: or something, no politics all aside, whatever, you got the
Speaker 2: paper to give the niggas to change, whatever you gotta do,
Speaker 2: like name some names or some niggas that you would
Speaker 2: sign up, like some upcoming young niggas that you fuck with.
Speaker 4: Like who would I build my roster with all politics aside?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm Damn.
Speaker 4: I definitely want. I definitely want Bully, Big Bully from
Speaker 4: c MG. That's my nigga.
Speaker 1: Man. Energy is crazy, but live performances is off the charts.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I been like I'd be riding around with my daughter
Speaker 4: and stuff, and I'd be listening to some of the
Speaker 4: stuff she be listening to, and she liked the little
Speaker 4: Tyler kid a lot, Little Tied She listened to him.
Speaker 1: So some of the something he say, some little slick
Speaker 1: fly ship.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I was like, Okay, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like I fuck with Slim. But that's a hard question, man,
Speaker 4: because it's like I could answer that question.
Speaker 1: But right now that that they ain't in my face.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see somebody.
Speaker 4: It ain't about leaving him out now, I just don't
Speaker 4: want to see him be guessing him, be like oh what,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, but.
Speaker 1: Guess equator to your playlist. I like the girl from
Speaker 1: New York to New what's her name? Lola? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like her demeanor, Like I feel like that.
Speaker 4: I feel like that demeanor of female has been missing,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. She got that rough neck
Speaker 4: like real New York, like the old New York Greason
Speaker 4: gritty like I like that ship, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So, but it's a couple of artists though, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it's a couple of artists that dope
Speaker 4: as fuck. What's the name of that kid I just
Speaker 4: met from Atlanta? Man, he signed the QC. We did
Speaker 4: like two shows together. Damn hard bro the young the
Speaker 4: young dude. You know what I'm saying about, right, I
Speaker 4: forgot his name, the young nigga.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: He got a different swag though, like like from Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I know you're talking about you talking
Speaker 7: about who signed to QC.
Speaker 1: I was just with him down south by Southwest.
Speaker 6: Man, he got some hard ass ship.
Speaker 4: Bro I ain't never heard of ship till I till
Speaker 4: I met him.
Speaker 1: I was just walking. We just that sound checking together.
Speaker 4: Now you're talking about we Yeah, let me see, I
Speaker 4: got you talking about I follow him on Instagram and
Speaker 4: all that too.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That nigga dope as fuck though.
Speaker 4: Right here, this is you talking about shout hud Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we are Brodie dope.
Speaker 1: Man. It's a lot of dope as artists. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of dope artists. I can't go through all of them.
Speaker 5: So so Maryland, DC, Virginia like the d MB area.
Speaker 5: As far as food is concerned, they're basically pretty much
Speaker 5: known for the seafood, the crabs, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: All that kind of ship.
Speaker 3: Right, So what is your favorite restaurant and what do
Speaker 3: you like to eat from there?
Speaker 4: Damn, my favorite restaurant. See, I ain't no you know,
Speaker 4: first and foremost, I ain't no real like food. I
Speaker 4: eat the same food. If I would, I probably eat
Speaker 4: the same food every day. But as far as seafood,
Speaker 4: I would have to go with hot and juicy hot,
Speaker 4: and from there just a regular seafood ball man with
Speaker 4: King krab legs. I get the shrimp potatoes. No Homo
Speaker 4: sausage in the corner. I love sausage. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: it's we gotta watch the way we talked that life is.
Speaker 4: But you know, no Hormo the sausages.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't want to be.
Speaker 1: Like you got to be carel you's gotta be careful.
Speaker 4: And then I don't want to offend the LGB community, right,
Speaker 4: I don't want to. It's weird, man, Like that's when
Speaker 4: you ask me, like what's new? That's new too, Like
Speaker 4: you can't speak freezing no.
Speaker 3: More man of everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, me give you anxiety like trying to just be
Speaker 7: out here doing the news again, like you don't know.
Speaker 1: What to do, how to move a little bit. It
Speaker 1: ain't heavy, It ain't heavy on the anxiety.
Speaker 4: But I just feel like we lost our power to
Speaker 4: speak freely, you know what I'm saying. I remember Lizzo
Speaker 4: apologizing for using a word that I forgot what the
Speaker 4: word was, but they were trying to say, oh, people
Speaker 4: call mentally Chinese people that, but she used the word
Speaker 4: in a whole nother different way and it was a
Speaker 4: regular word though, and she had to make a statement
Speaker 4: and I apologizing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I took that word out the song and put
Speaker 1: a new word.
Speaker 4: Man, Like we used to be able to talk about
Speaker 4: what the fuck we wanted to talk about and do
Speaker 4: what the fuck we wanted to do. And I just
Speaker 4: feel like that ship is just real watered down right now,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it's hard to be yourself.
Speaker 6: You had your people reach out to Kim and j
Speaker 6: know when you when you was locked up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, We've always been real close with
Speaker 4: Ross and meet anyway, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: we did have them reach out to see excuse me,
Speaker 4: to see what we could do or what what could
Speaker 4: be done. Like I was definitely looking for avenues to
Speaker 4: get out, you know what I'm saying. So we definitely
Speaker 4: reached out to him. I don't think, you know, to
Speaker 4: be honest, I don't think I had enough time. I
Speaker 4: wasn't senteniveing up to a long enough time for them
Speaker 4: to really consider like taking my paperwork and really going
Speaker 4: hard with it, you know.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying, By the time we get to that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like you ain't got fifteen years.
Speaker 4: Like by the time the ball get rolling and get
Speaker 4: the protests out and all that, you'll be walking out
Speaker 4: the door. But you know me, like, as a man
Speaker 4: missing my family, my kids and making money in the
Speaker 4: music industry and working and doing shows.
Speaker 1: I was just looking for ways to man, tell them,
Speaker 1: don't forget about me, your man too. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. These niggas got thirty years over here, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So, but nah, I definitely appreciate me and Kim too,
Speaker 4: because Kim got a couple of homies, a couple of
Speaker 4: real sordid dudes from DC.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So the whole Justice Reformed thing, I really I really
Speaker 4: appreciate that whole process.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: If rat wasn't your escape from the streets, what you
Speaker 2: think something else would have been, like your escape, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, like who spoils or something else.
Speaker 3: Like do you pay or like do anythings like that?
Speaker 4: If it wasn't gonna be rapping, probably would have been
Speaker 4: even football or basketball.
Speaker 1: Okay, what I would have tried, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm like that, like that, like you gotta asked
Speaker 4: about Hey, look, because we dropped in twenties and thirties
Speaker 4: out of fas all around the world.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 4: But nah, when I was young, I didn't know how
Speaker 4: much athletes were getting paid, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I feel like now, for real, like I felt like.
Speaker 4: If I know what was Lincoln, I would have stayed
Speaker 4: on the field because I'm getting knocked around and dirty,
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, I'm missing all the
Speaker 4: popping parties because we're playing football and basketbas and it
Speaker 4: got to a point where I'm just like, now, I'm
Speaker 4: just tired of doing this shit. But had I known
Speaker 4: they was getting sixty four million in a two hundred
Speaker 4: million for seven years and like that, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: Have definitely shiit shoot it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like not even just your NFL contract, your sponsor, Subway, Nike,
Speaker 4: all this, you know the car did. It's just man,
Speaker 4: If I would have known that, I probably would have definitely.
Speaker 4: But I don't have no regrets. Music is my number
Speaker 4: one first love. Like, yeah, I eat, breathing, sleep music
Speaker 4: like all day, all day, all night, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I don't have no regrets. But if
Speaker 4: I had to choose anything outside of music, it would
Speaker 4: probably do be sports.
Speaker 3: What's your dream feature?
Speaker 4: John Legend and Anita Baker. Yeah, that's my dream feature.
Speaker 4: Hopefully before I die. I like to sing with John
Speaker 4: Legend and Anita Baker. I like that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pick a goat? Who would be a rap a goat?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with my homie. I'm gonna go rose
Speaker 4: Man ross Man. You know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 4: just I grew up listening to the Ross and like
Speaker 4: you know, I'm big on lyricism, and I'm big on
Speaker 4: like before I even met a lot of these artists,
Speaker 4: before I even met him, I'm big on how does
Speaker 4: your music make me feel? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: When I ride to your ship? Do I feel like
Speaker 4: one of the Willis niggas riding around the city right now?
Speaker 4: Or do I just feel like I'm perpetrating listening to you?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like like a bitch might
Speaker 4: get in your car like a nigga.
Speaker 1: This ain't you?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like that's when when I
Speaker 4: listen to music. I don't know if I'm explaining when
Speaker 4: I listen to music, that's what I'm all. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And so get put in that mold. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in that mold, yeah yeah, but in my mold. And
Speaker 4: I always felt like he always gave off that boss aura.
Speaker 4: And my mom always used to tell me, you know,
Speaker 4: be careful, man, because you're a leader. All them boys
Speaker 4: outside they follow you. You're a leader, but sometimes the
Speaker 4: leaders get it the worst. She used to always tell
Speaker 4: me that. And I felt like, listen and all that
Speaker 4: old Mafia music and growing up and you know, doing
Speaker 4: what I was doing in the streets, but pulling off
Speaker 4: listening to that. I just felt like it was put
Speaker 4: me on another level than my peers around me, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And my peers were starting to
Speaker 4: feel the same way, like, man, like you think you
Speaker 4: a boss and you think you this and you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But trying to give me my prosial slick low key
Speaker 1: hate for real, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he one of my goats, man, you know, was ain't
Speaker 1: one of my goats.
Speaker 7: How you deal with niggas like but you said that,
Speaker 7: like niggas like saying you changing like you're differently, shit,
Speaker 7: how you deal with that?
Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna keep it real, Hey, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 4: it real, I sit and kick the ball with Yeah, nah, man,
Speaker 4: it's all love. And then when i'm out, man, I'm
Speaker 4: just out man, because I know what that eventually turned to.
Speaker 4: That's how I got shot. I got shot from fake love,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I really I really
Speaker 4: play that with a loan you know long. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So I don't when it comes to that,
Speaker 4: I just try to keep it short and brief.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I appreciate all the love and I take the bad criticism.
Speaker 4: Who yeah, bro, I ain't like that last video. Man,
Speaker 4: you could have came hard and that that's a bad dog.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you what you ain't like about it? Oh,
Speaker 4: I bet that's a bad You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Just keep it pushing.
Speaker 7: What about the niggas that were tight tight with you
Speaker 7: or the people that were tightened you that you had
Speaker 7: to let go and what.
Speaker 1: We're going how you deal with that? It's hard? Man? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard.
Speaker 4: Like it's hard like it's it's hard, but you know,
Speaker 4: stay busy, staying busy and keeping your mind consistent and
Speaker 4: not focusing on different things. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because if we part of ways, eventually we both gotta
Speaker 4: let it, let it go, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I'm just real big on just letting it go
Speaker 4: and keep me pushing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna lie. Like a lot of people
Speaker 1: that I don't deal with no more, I still think
Speaker 1: about them.
Speaker 4: I still think about it. I'm missing my wonder how
Speaker 4: they doing it. But it's just like, you know, it's
Speaker 4: from a distance, you know what I'm saying. Like when
Speaker 4: I say my prayers, I keep you in them. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But we ain't gotta speak no more,
Speaker 4: you know. But I don't wish no harm against you.
Speaker 4: And that's me mature and as a man because I
Speaker 4: didn't used to be that.
Speaker 1: It used to be. Fuck y'all, hope you die and all.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's just like whatever, man, you know, prison,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. Prison changed me, man like change,
Speaker 4: It changed my whole mind.
Speaker 1: Steate. It's just like fuck that ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm real big on fuck it. Yeah, take
Speaker 1: another ship, Yeah, y'all, I ain't taking none of this ship. Person.
Speaker 4: I just want some paper, and I just want to
Speaker 4: make my family happy and my kids happier.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: And that's what really mean the most of me now
Speaker 4: because they didn't already show me who they really was.
Speaker 4: When I went to prison, a lot of people stopped
Speaker 4: picking up these falls.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, So it is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: What's something you think you took for granted along your journey,
Speaker 2: Like some shit that you just took for granted. And
Speaker 2: she's like, man, I should have took this person or
Speaker 2: this in general for granted.
Speaker 1: My kids, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: My kids, Like I said, I just felt like because
Speaker 4: I was there financially that I was doing a great job,
Speaker 4: and I feel.
Speaker 1: Like it was okay to miss out all.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, my daughter sung on the news, and
Speaker 4: you know, she go to Eliton, one of the most
Speaker 4: prominent schools in DC, so they keep them in a
Speaker 4: lot of activities and a lot of things I missed
Speaker 4: due to my job. But I'm gonna be real, a
Speaker 4: lot of the things I missed was due to me
Speaker 4: wanting to have fun and you know, just skip out
Speaker 4: on that fucking I.
Speaker 1: Paid for your out for your head nails done. You
Speaker 1: want to run, You had excuse to say that.
Speaker 6: The work nigga, nigga, you a working.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly and so and so now I'm at
Speaker 4: an age where I'm telling myself, I'm looking at myself
Speaker 4: in the mirror, like trill.
Speaker 1: You was wrong for that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You was wrong.
Speaker 4: Even though baby girls still might not know. She still
Speaker 4: may look at that situation as.
Speaker 1: You were working. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but I know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's just one of the things that one of
Speaker 4: the things that I want to change. If I could
Speaker 4: turn back the hands of time, I would change will
Speaker 4: be spending more time with the people who love me
Speaker 4: the most and not trying to spend it around motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: Was secretly that just there because of who I am
Speaker 4: or secretly don't want me to win.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time around the wrong people
Speaker 1: for real, in the wrong rooms. Real. You feel better now,
Speaker 1: that's your circle, smaller, less stress, less less stress, get
Speaker 1: less stress. Man. Let's trying to take care of everybody.
Speaker 4: Can do for everybody, and and let's taking on everybody's problems.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, putting into an area.
Speaker 1: I used to hate putting into an.
Speaker 4: Area and one of my homies be in the car
Speaker 4: and they on pins and needles.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm on the top of every car for what.
Speaker 1: Nigga ain't beaf with nobody around there.
Speaker 4: Oh n I did such and such to a nigga
Speaker 4: around here, and and you be with me wet and
Speaker 4: pictures together. So a nigga wonna chreat me like man,
Speaker 4: fuck it, I can't you know, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: just that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm dumb. I'm done with that ship. Man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm thirty two, man, And like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna keep saying that prison changed me.
Speaker 4: Or open my eyes to get your freedom stripped away
Speaker 4: from you like that to down with down to what
Speaker 4: they feed you, where you shower at, where you sleep at.
Speaker 4: Almost lost. I got bit by a spider, almost lost
Speaker 4: my right leg. You know what I'm saying at thirty
Speaker 4: years old, like one leg? Like you know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 1: For real, I'm just thinking about it's over. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking about like man, like you know, it just
Speaker 1: changed me.
Speaker 4: Man, I tell people all the time, like, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't wish prison on nobody, but I wish everybody
Speaker 4: had a chance to experience losing their freedom in some way,
Speaker 4: shape or form. So therefore you can that small things
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't want everybody in the world to go
Speaker 4: to jail for six months or a year, but I
Speaker 4: just want them to feel.
Speaker 6: Saying people, you're saying the people that's making the choices
Speaker 6: you said.
Speaker 4: I think all people should because I feel as though
Speaker 4: we are all as a whole, we'll all make better decisions.
Speaker 4: I feel like, as a whole, we'll all make better decisions,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, I feel like as
Speaker 4: a whole, we'll all treat each other better.
Speaker 1: You feel me like, it's so are you saying that?
Speaker 5: Because you feel like if the people that weren't making
Speaker 5: wrong decisions had their I mean not the virginity, but
Speaker 5: they're freedom stripped away, they would have more compassion and
Speaker 5: be a little bit more understanding to the people that
Speaker 5: have had their freedom.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, I get you're saying, like judges prosecuted, quest
Speaker 4: and all that.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, them too, you know what I'm saying, them too.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like every I feel like everything, yeah,
Speaker 4: even civilians, everybody on earth should feel like in some
Speaker 4: type of way to feel like you to have your
Speaker 4: freedom stripped away from me, and I feel like it
Speaker 4: will make you appreciate life more and we'll all treat
Speaker 4: each other better, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 4: learned a lot of my manners in prison, Like it
Speaker 4: took me to go to prison find out that I
Speaker 4: ain't had no mans, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: so you want to wreck with these lifes and these motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: double trip. And man, you gotta say, excuse me just
Speaker 4: walking past me like period. You know what I'm saying, Like, yes,
Speaker 4: thank you, Yes, ma'am, I appreciate it, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: No, ma'am.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like it's just so much
Speaker 4: I've learned, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So else when I got.
Speaker 5: What's some ship that you haven't done that you really
Speaker 5: want to do, like you know, before it's all over.
Speaker 9: That's a good question. With some ship that I haven't
Speaker 9: done that really want to do? I think I want
Speaker 9: to try.
Speaker 6: Goddamn, I knew you were.
Speaker 1: Even though I'm super afraid of heights. Man. I just
Speaker 1: feel like before, you know, if I died eighty ninety,
Speaker 1: take that guy just want to.
Speaker 4: Do once got died, man, you know, just just to
Speaker 4: live on the edge for a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, just once, like just once, just once. Man.
Speaker 4: I just want I just want my pressure to be
Speaker 4: super safe.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't gotta jump from a super super high on
Speaker 4: the feet, but I just want to try that because
Speaker 4: my daughter did it with no fear and I'm just
Speaker 4: looking at her like I don't want.
Speaker 7: To do that ship too, But you gotta got lay
Speaker 7: on top of you to do that ship?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah? What's what's that? That's like the first.
Speaker 8: Time yourself on your first time, you can't you go ahead,
Speaker 8: you can't by yourself, but I believe like your first time,
Speaker 8: you can't, the dude gotta do it with you.
Speaker 5: I wanted to like always do that too, but I
Speaker 5: just was like scared.
Speaker 3: I was too big. I don't know, like there was
Speaker 3: like a like a like a weight thing or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I've only seen skinny people.
Speaker 1: It's not I'm kind of like Bungee jumped to.
Speaker 4: Wow, Bungee jumping on No man's strange cloud, man, that's
Speaker 4: why shot right. Yeah, you're white, you're right. The parents
Speaker 4: you cannot open You're right. That's the that's the that's
Speaker 4: the part of the risk I got.
Speaker 1: It's so much being the daredevil.
Speaker 6: It's like the rides and ships been sucking up. Like listen,
Speaker 6: it's it's racing.
Speaker 4: Rides and I do not riding no roller coasters. I
Speaker 4: love my kids to death.
Speaker 3: I know you can ride a roller coaster.
Speaker 5: The ship that I've been always scared of is like
Speaker 5: them one offs, like at those fairs and ship they
Speaker 5: just set up in the parking lots.
Speaker 3: And ship like an amusement part.
Speaker 5: I feel a lot more comfortable because they running the ship.
Speaker 6: All the shu up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but they've been fucking up man.
Speaker 5: I just rather take my chances on some ship that's
Speaker 5: built in like not break.
Speaker 6: A little comfortable.
Speaker 1: Rides, get run riding roll the courses. Man, I'm scared
Speaker 1: think they come down. It is what it is.
Speaker 6: I love this ship everything.
Speaker 5: Tell all this ship they started following out the mind
Speaker 5: being there in six days to be my ship.
Speaker 6: Everything everything you can think about. My kids will jump on.
Speaker 6: I can't bitch up real.
Speaker 7: I bitched up one time, long time young I was like,
Speaker 7: the stomach ain't really right.
Speaker 1: To the bar.
Speaker 3: Every time we're.
Speaker 1: Ready to go to it, Andy be like feeling like,
Speaker 1: but you lied up hard. I know my daughter.
Speaker 4: No, Look, man, daddy's scared, like that's that's not something
Speaker 4: I'm willing to do.
Speaker 1: I love you to death. Try at your own rest,
Speaker 1: but that's just not I can't take that.
Speaker 4: All them videos. But people be faning and and then
Speaker 4: waking back up. I think they think I can go
Speaker 4: up there high and just look. I hate window seats
Speaker 4: on the plane. When they booked my flights, man, tell
Speaker 4: them no window seats and if I do happen to
Speaker 4: get a windows him shutting my window off, the breaking.
Speaker 1: One of them. Yeah, pass cumany open the window now
Speaker 1: that's my.
Speaker 4: Man. You know, usually I'm usually sleep by the time
Speaker 4: of terrible its kicking. But I have been a part
Speaker 4: of some some bad turbulence.
Speaker 1: Man. And praying man, just praying, like Lord Jesus man.
Speaker 1: You know that's the first person we talked to when
Speaker 1: it's going there.
Speaker 4: Oh God, forgive me out of all the flights, my flight.
Speaker 1: I don't deserve. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't like fast cars. Oh no, man,
Speaker 4: I'm just real pro life right now. Man, I'm just
Speaker 4: seeing a lot of death around me. I real big
Speaker 4: on pro life right now. Man, Like I ain't even
Speaker 4: really trying to grocery shop. I ain't really, I'm telling
Speaker 4: you because it's like I'm so my Sentizen guidelines is
Speaker 4: so high if I go back to prison, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm I'm saying, And then like they shooting and killing everywhere.
Speaker 4: So it's like I kind of sort of don't want
Speaker 4: to be nowhere unless unless I could control the environment.
Speaker 4: I really don't want to be nowhere. And I believe
Speaker 4: that that paranoise was gonna keep me alive, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like not trying to live like I
Speaker 4: can walk anywhere, MANU that I'm going with you know,
Speaker 4: like nah, that's yeah, that ship is old.
Speaker 5: Yeah that is These niggas then nowadays, gonna give a
Speaker 5: fuck at all about who you are.
Speaker 6: All the way, don't giving fun all the way.
Speaker 4: That's that old man for real, man, I want to
Speaker 4: say resting peace, Pop Smoke, Russian Piece, p and b
Speaker 4: Rock Man Ressip Piece.
Speaker 1: Take Off, Man like ye, so many, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I just want to say resting peace of them men, man,
Speaker 4: because they was young black African Americans doing for their
Speaker 4: family and making and making music. And I always look
Speaker 4: at music as are positive, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because it ain't drugs, it ain't deafitely ain't fitting all
Speaker 4: this music, you know what I'm saying. And you can
Speaker 4: adopt the music and always shape the forms. And just
Speaker 4: the way they lost their life, it's just a real
Speaker 4: eye opening, you know what I'm saying. So that's part
Speaker 4: of the reason why I don't want to kick it,
Speaker 4: like I don't want to. You can't trust everybody, and
Speaker 4: there's too many shots and ghost guns and ship out here.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Back when I was growing up, broke niggas didn't have guns.
Speaker 4: Like when you was broke, you didn't have guns like
Speaker 4: and you know, man, I go to certain spots around
Speaker 4: certain cities. Everybody got a gun. You know, Man, too
Speaker 4: many bullets, you know what I'm saying, Like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck they got to aim for? They don't need to
Speaker 4: aim One of these motherfucker's going to hit you. It's
Speaker 4: fifty of them, you know what. I'm saying so, but
Speaker 4: I'm telling you man, that ship, man, that shit coming
Speaker 4: rapid fire man, recipees of the men too, man, and
Speaker 4: to all the follers souls. I know it's a lot
Speaker 4: of names I missed, but that just goes better with
Speaker 4: my decision making.
Speaker 1: Like I read the room and I see what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What age you think?
Speaker 2: This is always up for debate what you think, and
Speaker 2: I know it's probably also different fro different people. What
Speaker 2: age can you say you think people or in your case,
Speaker 2: you become.
Speaker 1: A man, like a real man, like you could say you're.
Speaker 4: A man man. You know, everybody's different, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Everybody is different. But I really feel like
Speaker 4: at least by at least by twenty five, you should
Speaker 4: be becoming into a man man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I ain't become a man.
Speaker 4: Until I turned like thirty thirty one, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like when I started like being self conscious
Speaker 4: and starting to care about what everything was going on
Speaker 4: around me. You know what I'm saying, Because I was
Speaker 4: at an age where I ain't really give a fuck
Speaker 4: about nothing. Old lady gets shot right there. Man, I
Speaker 4: ain't man, My ain't nothing to do with that, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like just bad decisions, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I feel like you really should be becoming into
Speaker 1: a man. You know who?
Speaker 4: Book I read Pempcy book, The Autobiography of PEMC. He
Speaker 4: was just he was just saying a lot of shit like, Man,
Speaker 4: if you ain't doing this by thirty, man, you ain't
Speaker 4: no man, you're a little ass boy.
Speaker 1: I read that book over and over and over. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a big book too.
Speaker 4: I read that book over and over and over, and
Speaker 4: it was just kept kind of helping me put myself
Speaker 4: in a mindstake where when you're gonna do some man ship,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like we're gonna take your
Speaker 4: kids out for a week at a time, Like I say,
Speaker 4: fuck your homies and fuck your men and the strippers
Speaker 4: and all that.
Speaker 1: When you're gonna do a photo shoot with your kids and.
Speaker 4: Shit like Like I started answer myself and questioning myself
Speaker 4: shit like that, And I really feel like I ain't
Speaker 4: get into that mind stake till I was like twenty
Speaker 4: nine going on thirty but really.
Speaker 5: You know, you want to know something, know how I
Speaker 5: feel about that, Like real shit, I don't think it's
Speaker 5: necessarily an age to that like determines when you become
Speaker 5: a man. I think it's based upon your personal life experiences, honestly,
Speaker 5: because I know niggas, what.
Speaker 6: Age you.
Speaker 1: Got you're saying, Because.
Speaker 5: I know I know niggas is like it's like forty
Speaker 5: and fifty. That's still our little boys, you know, niggas
Speaker 5: is like nineteen and twenty got are full grown.
Speaker 3: Taking care of their family, doing what they need to.
Speaker 6: Doing shit right, right, You're right, You're right about what
Speaker 6: you're saying.
Speaker 4: I agree, And the same thing go for women too.
Speaker 4: Fact I agree, I agree, I mess opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't mean it like that.
Speaker 4: When I met was I know some old immatures, yes, mature. Sure,
Speaker 4: matureness comes in all shapes and sizes, jogging the gleek
Speaker 4: and so this immaturity I should man. You know, I
Speaker 4: ain't never think about it until now that I'm at
Speaker 4: this age, Like I ain't have to explain that definition
Speaker 4: in a long time. You know what I'm saying. My
Speaker 4: name on Instagram always been fat. Yeah, what I'm saying
Speaker 4: and like, but Gleice is like my real nickname in
Speaker 4: my city. Though, you know what I'm saying, It's not
Speaker 4: like a I made this nickname about the rap like people,
Speaker 4: and it's people in my city who only refer to
Speaker 4: me as Gleiche.
Speaker 1: Or facts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So, but as far I was talking about getting rid
Speaker 4: of it on my social media handles, That's what I
Speaker 4: was talking about because technically, to the city, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: always be Glease.
Speaker 1: They always called me Gleach.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, not a mentality, yeah, definitely the man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm the mentality of a Gleiche Like that's I'm past that,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm past that and
Speaker 4: some you know, the devil do work man, because some
Speaker 4: days I do feel like going back into that mode
Speaker 4: or you know, I see I read comments on the
Speaker 4: inter andet or some blager might be saying this and
Speaker 4: that about me and make me want to you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So some days are better than others,
Speaker 4: you know, But am I trying to get rid of
Speaker 4: that whole Saturday?
Speaker 1: Absolutely just want to be better and do better.
Speaker 4: And my kids at the age where they could see
Speaker 4: stuff now, and they googling me a lot now and
Speaker 4: watching everything, interviews, watching you know, shootouts at shows and
Speaker 4: all this what they asking me about that stuff.
Speaker 1: So now I'm really starting killing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the tempature in the city right no period, shit,
Speaker 4: what's the temperature?
Speaker 7: You know, Like what's going on in sydneygaum, one of
Speaker 7: these killing, Niggs killing.
Speaker 1: Theiggas killing in DC right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they have a full bloom war in DC right now,
Speaker 10: a full bloom war on DC right now. You know
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, Like, it's it's it's a couple of
Speaker 10: hoods in my city. That's that's terrorizing the streets right now.
Speaker 4: Like I believe how many people got shot Saturday ten
Speaker 4: ten two died, thir one died Thursday, two died Friday,
Speaker 4: Saturday ten got shot to die.
Speaker 1: It's going crazy in DC right now, going on. Well,
Speaker 1: you know in DC alright, So you know, we're not
Speaker 1: a state.
Speaker 4: That's first of all, And some people get confused when
Speaker 4: I explain to the District of Columbia's now the states,
Speaker 4: the states in America. DC not a state. So we're
Speaker 4: real small. We never had crypso bloods, vice laws, GDS,
Speaker 4: BD's none of that.
Speaker 1: Wherever you're from, wherever you live at in Washington, DC,
Speaker 1: that's where you're from. I stayed on the sixteen hundred
Speaker 1: block of Eas Street. I'm from East Street.
Speaker 4: No Savage from thirty seven, Ball from Simple City, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You could be from uptown whatever, whatever.
Speaker 4: Episode all our hoods. We got hoods, whatever neighborhoods you in.
Speaker 4: And so you know, Go Go always been the number
Speaker 4: one prominent music in Washington, DC before rat became cool,
Speaker 4: before we had Blessing all right, Go.
Speaker 1: Go and Mumbo Sauce. Yeah, so the only place we
Speaker 1: could party at was Go gos.
Speaker 4: So when you go to this Go Go, you got
Speaker 4: thirty seven in the back, Trinity right here, East Street
Speaker 4: over here, Searcial Quarters over here, six forty over here.
Speaker 1: We're all different hoods, but we partying.
Speaker 4: But we all fucking the same bras chasing Yeah, yeah, basically,
Speaker 4: or we're all trying to outdo each other, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And so the war is between the hoods,
Speaker 4: like how many points? It's all about points and scores.
Speaker 1: Now. Man, we're up ten to six right now, and
Speaker 1: that's and they.
Speaker 4: Really calculating these scores, and I'm watching these youngers come
Speaker 4: over to jail and they fighting their cases, and all
Speaker 4: their cases is through the internet.
Speaker 1: All the evidence is already on the internet. How can
Speaker 1: you fight it? You know what I'm saying. So it's real.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of goofy shit going on right now
Speaker 1: with DC.
Speaker 4: That's why I've been trying to be out and about
Speaker 4: as much as possible leaving DC.
Speaker 1: What's something on your hard drive?
Speaker 2: You know you say you're working on an hour, man,
Speaker 2: what's the record on your hard drive? That mean a
Speaker 2: lot to you that you just can't wait for everybody
Speaker 2: to hear your fans and everybody.
Speaker 1: Man, I can't wait, Like I'm ready to leave this
Speaker 1: shit shit. Man, I got some shit with Hancho. That's
Speaker 1: real hard. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I got some shit Witho that's real hard.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the streets to hear that. I
Speaker 4: got a crazy, crazy street record with Vel. I can't
Speaker 4: wait for the streets to hear that. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Yeah, shut out, Ve. I just dropped my
Speaker 4: single with Buogie Festa. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 4: a couple of records on there. It's a couple of
Speaker 4: records on there that I really feel real, real good about.
Speaker 4: But I got like, I ain't gonna lie. I got
Speaker 4: like three four projects righty to drop this year. So
Speaker 4: I'm really just waiting to get this one out so
Speaker 4: I could really figure out like what we can do
Speaker 4: for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: The street.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to flood the streets. I've been gone
Speaker 4: for four years, so I'm trying to flood the streets.
Speaker 4: Stay busy and just link up in network and just
Speaker 4: fly to all these different cities and states and just network.
Speaker 1: You did Rolling out before? Have I did Rolling Out?
Speaker 10: Four?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You ain't doing just go around? Okay, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. Man.
Speaker 2: What's something you want to say to the big fan supporters?
Speaker 2: Man the streets everybody. Man, give them some jewels, some
Speaker 2: jams before you slide.
Speaker 1: Man. Man, you know the people, and do it in
Speaker 1: that political ship you be doing. No to do is
Speaker 1: be me and it just be me for real.
Speaker 4: But I just wanted to tell everybody that you know,
Speaker 4: put God first, man, and focus on your hustle, and
Speaker 4: focus on what's important to you. And if you don't
Speaker 4: have something that's important to you, find it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Locate it, locate your strengths, and locate
Speaker 4: your weaknesses, and just practice, man, practice make perfect.
Speaker 1: And you hear athletes say that all the time.
Speaker 4: But I come from I come from a place where
Speaker 4: like I wasn't never supposed to make it.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I know for a fact, I know a couple of
Speaker 4: artists man who overcame some shit, who really wasn't suposed
Speaker 4: to make it out that shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I say that to say, practice make perfect, you know.
Speaker 4: And sometimes you got to sacrifice a lot of people
Speaker 4: ask me what I sacrifice.
Speaker 1: I sacrifice leaving my hood behind.
Speaker 4: That it took a lot out of me because I
Speaker 4: felt like I was turning my back on them.
Speaker 1: But I knew that I had a vision for this
Speaker 1: rap shit.
Speaker 4: But it took so it took so much time as
Speaker 4: far as studio, when I ain't had nothing, no fans,
Speaker 4: no Twitter, no facebooks or none of that. I had
Speaker 4: to spend multiple once hours, days, weeks, months and years
Speaker 4: in the studio and I left my hood behind.
Speaker 1: I wasn't putting.
Speaker 4: Money into the pack so everybody can get some money
Speaker 4: buying bullets, buying ammunition. And I felt bad because of that,
Speaker 4: because I felt like I was turning my back on
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So now I'm at the
Speaker 4: age where I could just tell motherfuckers like man, focus
Speaker 4: on what's important and do what you love and and
Speaker 4: give it all you got for real.
Speaker 1: And I know it sounds sound cliche, but it's true.
Speaker 4: I really feel like my practice made me perfect and
Speaker 4: I'm still learning.
Speaker 1: I'm still practicing.
Speaker 2: YILN, we appreciate the big facts.
Speaker 9: It's a big fact, no, Captain Fitch