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Speaker 1: the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays Wrestling with.

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Speaker 2: Fready, Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to a brand new episode

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Speaker 2: of on Sanctioned Thursdays. That's the big budget jingle that

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Speaker 2: I spent all of my money on. Hope you guys

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Speaker 3: That was really good, un sanction unsanctioned.

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Speaker 2: See now you're already making it better. But that was

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Speaker 2: my one hundred percent. And that's as good as it's

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Speaker 2: ever gonna get. It's never gonna get any better than that.

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Speaker 2: It's on Sanctioned Thursdays, where we talk about whatever the

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Speaker 2: hell we want to talk about. And this week. I've

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Speaker 2: always found two things that went kind of hand in

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Speaker 2: hand in the wrestling business, which was professional wrestlers and horror.

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Speaker 2: And the more professional wrestlers I meet, the more of

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Speaker 2: them love two things, horror and surprisingly, soap operas. A

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Speaker 2: lot of them love their soaps, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: them love my wife' so ould show, Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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Speaker 2: Mark Henry seen every single episode of Buffy. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I believe you but you don't look like Mark Henry.

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Speaker 2: Mark Henry's like, tell your wife, I love her, I

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Speaker 2: love that. I'm gonna watch Buffy. I tell them, I like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not telling her shit. Mark, you scare me when

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Speaker 3: He's like, you don't want to do I take them

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Speaker 3: Vampire straight through the hell mouth.

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Speaker 2: Yo. He loved that. A lot of bro wrestlers dug it.

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Speaker 2: So I always felt they went together well. So I

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Speaker 2: thought i'd hit you with some horror movies today. See

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Speaker 2: if you've seen them. If you haven't, I'll give you

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Speaker 2: this plays out, and it may be the greatest segment

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Speaker 2: All right. First, I'm gonna hit you up with something

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Speaker 2: into more sort of fun stuff. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 2: Army of Darkness?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Army of Darkness is, for those who don't know,

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Speaker 2: Evil Dead people sleep sleep on Us. This isn't This

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Speaker 2: is a franchise. They have made multiple movies, video games,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you Army of Darkness is

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Speaker 2: And these movies turned into this. I will say this,

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Speaker 2: You can see all these things on YouTube, and to

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Speaker 2: I think in the future as well, But this one

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Speaker 3: I really feel like that it also that set the

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Speaker 3: If you see the first one and then you go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a diverse franchise that you can't look

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Speaker 2: I don't watch too many movies unless they are horror films.

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Speaker 3: That's not that's not a franchise you want to go

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Speaker 2: Have they done any other I can't believe we're talking Transformers.

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Speaker 2: Which and that's the newest one that my son wants

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Speaker 3: Honestly, if you didn't watch the Beast Wars cartoon.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it. Yeah. Well, he watches anime bro

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Speaker 2: all right. Next horror film on the block, And I

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Speaker 2: I love And.

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Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, yo, my daughter, here's a side quest. We

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Speaker 2: Guy ran up on us with a chainsaw and he

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Speaker 3: He ran up on her and she's on crutches in

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Speaker 2: She was like, I didn't know if I was gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that's great love. I love going to those.

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Speaker 3: I love finding you know, there's always like the guys

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Speaker 3: and they're running across, They're sliding on their knee pads,

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Speaker 2: Those are huge. By the way, to all of you

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Speaker 2: Yes, so much better agreed, And the guy is such

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Speaker 3: Japanese horror though, is so they just they're like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, The Tail of Two Sisters is like the

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Speaker 2: So I don't care if it's if it's B movie

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Speaker 3: So I've seen pretty if it's if it came out

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Speaker 2: No? I would never ruin that for anyone, but what

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Speaker 3: A minor origin story on The Joker was kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: Just went sideways. Look, if it's eighties and seventies horror,

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Speaker 3: All those Yeah, okay, I'm gonna give you. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you a shutter guy? You ever you ever get

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Speaker 2: I've only been there once, so I'm not familiar with

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Speaker 2: Dolph Ziegler's brother, Ryan is a buddy of mine and

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Speaker 3: Ryan is a myth mister.

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Speaker 2: He's a smart man, no, and he knows his horror.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ryan, he's a sweetheart, dude. He's one of

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Speaker 3: He's he's right on this one. So it was one

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Speaker 2: Host I've heard of. All right, Well, now you guys

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Speaker 2: you are too. Thank you for listening on sanctioned Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: I'll see everybody again next Wednesday. Thank you to our

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Speaker 3: But thank you, Thank you, guys, Thank you, Freddy.

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