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Speaker 1: Please. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson as usual, and uh, we are pleased to be

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Speaker 1: joined today by a gentleman who usually joins us at

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Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine. Of course that didn't happen this year,

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Speaker 1: but we've got Greg Crocell of the of course NFL

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Speaker 1: Films in the NFL Matchup Show, and he's also doing

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Speaker 1: a new thing this year with Fantasy Points Draft Guide.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be available soon here where he'll be breaking

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Speaker 1: down guys for this year's draft. And of course we

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Speaker 1: want to talk to Greg a lot about this year's draft,

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Speaker 1: as we do at the combine usually. But how you doing, Greg?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, guys, are you? We're fantastic. It's great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. And my buddy Ross Tucker always

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Speaker 1: introduces you as the greatest film guru amongst civilians. So

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Speaker 1: I like that intro too. That's because I'm crazy and

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Speaker 1: I just sit here and watch far too much tape,

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Speaker 1: you know, for years in a row. Huh, well, I

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Speaker 1: haven't been doing it all for all forty one. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just finished my forty first season here at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Films. Uh, probably been watching college tape and trying

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Speaker 1: to think for a good amount of time. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember exactly how long, but it's been a while. Well

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Speaker 1: let's let's get ready to it. Greg. First, we want

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the Steelers in their situation,

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Speaker 1: UM bringing Ben Roethlisberger back this year. Uh, what in

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Speaker 1: your mind, what do the Steelers need to do with

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger for him to be successful or can they

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Speaker 1: be successful with him? You know, it's really fascinating because normally,

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Speaker 1: when you watch a team's offense, you you kind of

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Speaker 1: know how they see their players because coaches tell you

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Speaker 1: what they think of their players by what they do.

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Speaker 1: UM and the Steelers this year were very interesting from

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Speaker 1: a passing game standpoint, because obviously they did not run

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Speaker 1: the ball a lot. They threw it by choice an

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Speaker 1: awful lot, but it was how they threw it. Every

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, everything was quick, short passes,

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Speaker 1: quick game. The ball got out. So I guess the

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Speaker 1: question is did they do that because of Ben. Did

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Speaker 1: they do that because of their offensive line? But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's what they did. That's

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Speaker 1: what the tape shows. It's not an interpretation, guys, you

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Speaker 1: know this, it's what the tape shows. So are they

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Speaker 1: Is their offense going to look the same next year? Uh?

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Speaker 1: That's hard to know. Obviously Ben's going to be the quarterback. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they do have vertical threats at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to try to attack more intermediate and vertically?

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Speaker 1: If they do, then they're going to need to shore

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Speaker 1: up their offensive line. If they're going to play the

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Speaker 1: same kind of offense that they did a year ago,

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Speaker 1: my senses, they would need to run the ball with

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Speaker 1: a little more consistency and a little more volume. Greg,

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Speaker 1: do you agree it's not to the same level. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to me, Ben is one of the all time great

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Speaker 1: throwers of the football, but I still think he shows

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Speaker 1: deep Diggs and they just they don't do it much,

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Speaker 1: or you know, here and there. I think it's still

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Speaker 1: be why didn't they do more. I mean, ultimately that

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Speaker 1: probably can't either, Um, But I think that their offense

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Speaker 1: if you can't run the ball, you get stuck in

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Speaker 1: a situation where you're you're asking Roflisburger to have to

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Speaker 1: there's going in my view. I know there's big debates

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of reasons why the Steelers run

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Speaker 1: the ball carriers here over the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is now we've got some issues

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Speaker 1: on the offensive. The line counts he's retired, you know,

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Speaker 1: vice versa? Is there one? Is there a better way

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Speaker 1: a lot by mock drafters out there. Javonte Williams name

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Speaker 1: a volume back. He's you have to give him the football.

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Speaker 1: That's the way he that's what he is. So if

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Speaker 1: he's got speed, he's got natural power. He might have

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Speaker 1: as good a contact balance as I've seen in a while.

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Speaker 1: We could talk to you all day long, but we

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Speaker 1: guests has been Greg co Sell of NFL Films in

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Speaker 1: the NFL Matchup. You can check out his work as

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Speaker 1: well at the Fantasy Points the Draft guide that is

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Speaker 1: coming out soon. That's Fantasy points dot Com. But we

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time as always, Greg, and hopefully next year

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Speaker 1: we'll get to see at the combine. I think there'll

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Speaker 1: that continues to happen. Absolutely, but I've been Dale Lally.

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