1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Come boom. If you thought four hours a day, twelve 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: hundred minutes a week was enough, think again. He's the 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: last remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: He treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: the rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow. The clearing 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: House of Hot takes break free for something special. The 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: air everywhere. Welcome into the podcast dojo as we are 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: back at it, a brand new weekend of podcast ready 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: to go. We pop the podcast bubble as it is 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: the fifth Hour. We thank you for subscribing, for downloading 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: the podcast, for giving us a nice review, and we 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: are back up to our old tricks yet again. On 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the Friday edition the podcast, myself and Danny Gray. We 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: welcome in now someone who has been a big part 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: of this show for many, many years. We've had him 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: in studio. He has traveled the entire United States to 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: meet other listeners of the show, and now he is 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: spending some time with us on the international line, which 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: sounds pretty impressive. But the magic of WiFi, the magic 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: of the Internet. I can look at this man right 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: now we have a video connection. You can't see it 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: because we're on the podcast and it's audio only on 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: the fifth hour, but we welcome in a man who 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: has been a big part of a many many things 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: that we've done, a platinum winning member of the Mallard Militia, 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: the Great Jays Scoop. Now Jay Scoop is joining us 28 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: from a secret location in the Ukraine. You're saying, hey, Mallard, 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: isn't that country at war with Russia. Yes? Yes, Jay Scoop, 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: who lives in northern California, has made the trek across 31 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: oceans to get to Europe. He's had to cross into 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: the border several plane flights will walk you through all that, 33 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: and I wanted to have him on to go in depth, 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: find out what it's been like, what his experience has 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: been like as he's traveled around in a country that 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: is actively at war against Russia. An amazing thing to experience. Now, 37 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: a little backstory. Jay Scoop did spend four years in 38 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: the military, and he's a proud former Marine and so 39 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: he has that background. He also has some Ukrainian bloodlines, 40 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: so that's also a factor. But let's welcome in now 41 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: without further Ado Live on the Fifth Hour with Ben 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: Maller and Danny j from Ukraine. We welcome in a 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Jay Scoop. Jay, why why don't we start with this? 44 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Jay Scoop? Tell me how many hoops? You look great, 45 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: by the way, but tell me how many hoops you 46 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: had to jump through to get to where you are 47 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: right now? Oh man? And isn't it crazy right now? 48 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Like you're literally in La and I'm in Ukraine talking 49 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: to you right now, Like this is mind boggling. Well, 50 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: and you look like you're like next door. The wife 51 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: is pretty good. I can I kind of can tell 52 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: whatever room you're in, it looks Ukrainian a little bit. 53 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like American broom. There's there's not a 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: lot of advertising on the walls or anything behind you. 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: So I got that. Yeah, well, from from what I'm told, 56 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: this is a revamped old communist like Hoteller or something. 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: But wow, only the best, Jay Scoop, Only the best. 58 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, originally, um, you know, and I told some 59 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: other people this, but when this swar first kicked off 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: over a year ago, I was like, oh man, you know, 61 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I really feel for these people. I'm also a quarter 62 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: of Ukrainian, like, I really want to go over there, 63 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: But at the time I was in a relationship with 64 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: my girlfriends. So that's usually always been the kicker for me, 65 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: whether I was gonna try to jump in on a 66 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: conflict or not. If somebody I loved was like there, 67 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: I usually would refrain. But obviously my girlfriend and I 68 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: broke up in the summer last summer, and that kind 69 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: of opened the door for me coming over here. So 70 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: I decided to pull the trigger once I once I 71 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: saw that it was possible. So you see that it's possible. 72 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: But I would have no idea if I woke up 73 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow and said, you know, I want to go to 74 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: the Ukraine, I have no militarch anybod I want to go, like, 75 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't know how to get there. You 76 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: can't just fly into the Ukraine. You you would mentioned 77 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: that you had a lot of different stops on the way. Hey, 78 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: obviously it's a long fight. You live in California now, 79 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: so you had to fly from northern California to Europe, 80 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: And did someone walk you through it? Did you know 81 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: because you were in the military, did you kind of 82 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: have an idea of how to get into the Ukraine 83 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: or how complicated was it? Yeah, so it was kind 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: of interesting because I had good intel and bad intel 85 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: and I had to go through the stages there. But 86 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, I did have a couple of people that 87 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I already knew in Ukraine, a girl that I liked 88 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: those over here, an artist that worked on some of 89 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: my music graphics stuff, a couple other people. So I 90 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: was asking, you know, like, Okay, how do I get 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: over there? I already knew it was a no fly zone, 92 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, if it was still a fly zone, 93 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: would you really want to take your chances? You know, exactly? Yeah. 94 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: So basically I was like, okay, how do I get 95 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: in there? And I knew, you know, okay, I got 96 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: to go to a boarding bordering country and get in, 97 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: so Poland seemed like the most likely one to do. 98 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: So then I had to find out how to get 99 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: a cheap flight to get me to Poland. And then 100 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: from that spot, it was like, okay, how do I 101 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: get in? How hard is it to get in? What 102 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: do I need to cross that border? You know, it 103 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: would suck to go all the way to the border. 104 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: And then they're like, yeah, no, what what the hell 105 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: are you doing if you can go home now, surprise 106 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: you're not getting in. So how much paperwork did you 107 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: have to bring with you? Like? Yeah, how complicated was 108 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: that part of it? So? You know, I went out 109 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: I think it was visit Ukraine Calm or or something 110 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: like that, and it had all the all the hoops right. 111 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: It was just like you know, your standard okay passport. 112 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: Being an American, I didn't have to worry about like 113 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: a visa or whatever. But then it was like, okay, 114 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: you gotta have your COVID stuff ready. Your COVID stuff 115 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: has to be within you know, reasonable amount of times 116 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: since your last shot. You have to buy Ukraine COVID 117 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: insurance in case you get COVID over here. You won't 118 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: be like bogging them down in the hospital as somebody 119 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: who didn't have any money. Um, now that sounds worse 120 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: than it is. You had like a lower tier version 121 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and a higher tier version. The higher tier version, I 122 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: can't remember. It was like the eight bucks or something. 123 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: It was like a Burks. It was like, oh crap, 124 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: and then I looked at the price, was like oh whatever, 125 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: just like rattle off the few dollars like stripper money. 126 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: At them. And then so you're saying, you're saying, Jay Jesse, 127 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: you're saying that the American dollar goes a long way 128 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: in the Ukraine. Is that? Is that what you're saying? 129 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: The difference in in the money you can stretch a 130 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: little bit. Yes, it definitely does. Um right now, it's 131 00:07:53,040 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 1: hovering around thirty seven revenreveniez to the dollar. And so 132 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: like a good example, when my last Uber ride was 133 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: sixty herevniaz, so that can tell you that's under two 134 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: dollars that it took me for that ride. So okay, 135 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so you have your I can't believe 136 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: this COVID insurance is still a thing, but whatever, I 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: find that they have their rules. So you have your COVID, 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: you have your COVID insurance, and then what else did 139 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: you need? And so then there's a couple of things 140 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: like they want to make sure you have enough money 141 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: for your stay, so that in conjunction with this standard one, right, 142 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: why are you here? Where are you going? And why 143 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: are you why are you coming here? And so of 144 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: course I'm like, oh, I'm coming to visit the mic 145 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: at this hotel. And honestly that's all you had to 146 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: really do is say, okay, I have this reservation at 147 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: this hotel and here's my bank account. I show that 148 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: I can meet them, and they have this little algorithm, 149 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: this little formula that says, okay, this is how much 150 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: money if you're there this many days, is how much 151 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: you have to prove you have. And I had enough 152 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: for that, So so I had all this stuff. Ben 153 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: when I got to that border, they just looked at 154 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: my passport. They didn't I did all that shit and 155 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: I didn't need any of it. So it was mostly 156 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: outdated stuff. So they ran you around and then I 157 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: took one look and then I go ahead, do it, 158 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: do what you want. So when you get when you 159 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: get to the border, like you know, you're you're tougher 160 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: than me, you're in the military and all that. But 161 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: when you get to the border and you cross over, 162 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: and you know you're going to a place where there's 163 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: like Russian bombs coming in, Like, do you know right 164 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: away did you see stuff when you cross the border. 165 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Did you have to go further into the Ukraine before 166 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: you you saw some of the stuff that you've you've 167 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: witnessed her since you've gotten over there. Sure, well, although 168 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: everywhere in Ukraine is in range. Ukraine is a very 169 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: big country, and so when you enter on the west 170 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: west side, it's so far from the front that you 171 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: know you're you're pretty safe. So Leviv is the name 172 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: of the biggest, you know, city out on the west side. 173 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: You kind of cross and then go through there, So 174 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: it takes quite a while to get over into the 175 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: more dangerous areas. So when you're crossing the border, you're 176 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: not really worried about the Russians. You're worried about the 177 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: border gardens from getting in, worried about the politics of 178 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: the Ukraine possibly maybe, And then the other part of it. 179 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: I was curious, I mean, this is you're an American, 180 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: you're in the Ukraine. Did you have to deal with 181 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: the embassy? Are they even open in the Ukraine because 182 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: of what's going on there? Like that part of it? 183 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of stuff? Did you have 184 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: to deal with that? From what I understand, there's still 185 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: representation there. But honestly, I just ignored them. I really 186 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: only was going to involve them if it turned out 187 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: I needed them to volunteer for the Ukraine military, and 188 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if I was going to be doing that. 189 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: So so my first foray over here was really more 190 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: of a reconmission at first to decide, okay, you know, 191 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: what is it like over here, and then maybe I 192 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: can make a decision, and then if I needed help, 193 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna try to go through the embassy things. 194 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: But it very clearly says on any website you go to, 195 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: the US is telling you not to come here, like everywhere. 196 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: So if you get smoked over here, they're basically gonna 197 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: say I told you so. Yeah, and so they have 198 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: no it's liability, right, it's always the lawyers, right, yeah, yeah, 199 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: yeah about lawyers and lawsuits and things like that. Let's 200 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: rewind for a minute though, because before I got to 201 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: that border man, he was a ditch my freaking flight. 202 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: So my flight was from San Francisco to London, which 203 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: was cool. I'd never been there before, so I can 204 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: technically say I got to be there, and then from 205 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: London to v in Austria. Well, you could see on 206 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: my ticket there was thirty five minutes from when I 207 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: was supposedly gonna land to when that next flight to 208 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: go to crack All, Poland was going to take off, 209 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: and everybody on that plane along with me that had this. 210 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: We kept asking, hey, are we good? Are we good? 211 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Like this is a small window, are we good? Yeah, yeah, 212 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: you're good, You're good. What happens We get and we 213 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: run through and they make you go through the screening 214 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: all over again, like it. I can understand if it 215 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: was like a different flight, but this was Austrian Airlines 216 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: to an Austrian Airlines thing, so it wasn't like we 217 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: anything where we should have had to go out and 218 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: then back in, so that slowed us down. We get 219 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: up to the thing and they're like, yeah, no, sorry, 220 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: it's too late. And by the way, the next flight's 221 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like a day away and all 222 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: this stuff. And that killed me because remember I have 223 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot more stuff ahead of me, I have a 224 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: trained catch a bus to catch all these things, are 225 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: already paid for set up, and the stupid thirty five 226 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: minute turnaround ended up literally derailing all my all my 227 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: travel plans, so I had to call audibles at that point. 228 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: Did they give you refunds on the trains and the 229 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: planes and the part of the automobiles the rest of 230 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: the trip, or did you have to buy pay pay 231 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: for that again? They were like, Okay, here's a hotel 232 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: in Austria, will pay for that, take a cab, here's 233 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: a card. When you end up paying for that, we're 234 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: going to reimburse you. And here's this flight like the 235 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: next day. And so you know, I'm sitting there just raging, raging, 236 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: right because like I was supposed to. And so I 237 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: just basically got online and I started seeing if there 238 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: were any other options. I even checked to see if 239 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: there was like an uber that could take imagine how 240 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: much that would have cost. Well, maybe not much, but 241 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: my god, that would be a long uber ride. Yeah, 242 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: because I was like, well, it's an our flight, like 243 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: it was a short trip by plane, but you know plane, 244 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it could be going over mountains, who knows. 245 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: So ultimately I found a there's this a bus company 246 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty international. It's called flix Flix and they cover 247 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: a lot of different areas. And there was a bus 248 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: route that went from Austria through Oh I'm gonna I'm 249 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna mess this up. It's either Slovakia or Slovenia. I 250 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: think it's Slovakia going to Slovakia. We'll go We're going 251 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: with Slovakia. Nobody looking don't look at a map. Nobody 252 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: look at a map. All right, we're just gonna go 253 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: with this exactly. So Vienna Austria into Slovakia, you traverse 254 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: Slovakia and then you pop out through the border to Ukraine. There. 255 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: So instead of crossing from Poland into Ukraine, which is 256 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more easier route in I was crossing 257 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: in from Slovakia. And let me tell you, that bus 258 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: ride wasn't too bad because it was comfortable. But when 259 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: I got to that border, it was like you know 260 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: when you go through customs, is the one guy and 261 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: you go through and you're like, ah, shoot, okay, that 262 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: was good, no problem. There was four moments of that, 263 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: every time I handed my passport and then and then 264 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: we would inch forward a little bit, and then there'd 265 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: be another guy, and then there was another guy. And 266 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: they even stopped one guy and pulled them off the bus. 267 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they're coming for me. This must be 268 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: what it was like in World War Two, Like what's 269 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: happening here and there? And these guys and they're like 270 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: checking you out there like mad I and you're mad 271 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: dogging and all that, right, like what are you doing? 272 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: And you're American? So did you say probably Were you 273 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: the only American doing this? Yes? Yeah, yeah, I had. 274 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: To the left of me, I had this girl who 275 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: had dual citizenship for Great Britain and Ukraine, and so 276 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: she was helping me out with some of the you know, 277 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: translations and things like that. But yeah, I had very 278 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: very limited speech to be able to If these guys 279 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: engaged with me, I knew I was screwed because they'd 280 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: be like, oh, he doesn't know the language and get 281 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: off the bus, let me see what you're about. But 282 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: they didn't do it. I was under the radar. It 283 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: was awesome. Have you seen any Americans since you've been there? 284 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: You've been there a while now, is there have you 285 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: seen anyone who's from the States there or is it 286 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: just all people from the Ukraine and maybe Great Britain 287 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: or some other places. It's funny that you mentioned that, 288 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: because just last night I heard my first two English 289 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: sneaking people. When I got back in town, I got 290 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: grabbed some stuff at the market and these two black 291 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: guys were walking by me and I'm like, wow, that's 292 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: those are the first black guys I've seen since I've 293 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: been here. And I listened, I'm like, I wonder if 294 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: they're sure enough. They were speaking English, and I like 295 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of like did the old way, like hey, what's up? 296 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: But that was crazy. That was the first first people. 297 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people here that speak at least 298 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: some English, but I mean as far as just like 299 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: flat out American, those are the only ones. I wondered 300 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: why those guys were here? Did you ask him? Did 301 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: you say what? Nah? I was? They were heading out 302 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: the door and I was ordering my Uber. It's called 303 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: bolts over here. They don't call it Uber, it's bolts. 304 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: They do have Uber here, but it really sucks because 305 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: there's not that many people using it. There's a bolt 306 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: and something called Uklon. Yeah, uk lo o n. How 307 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: much of the native tongue have you learned? You said 308 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: your bloodlines from the Ukraine? Do you know enough? As 309 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: it a pig Ukrainian buy a little bit sloppy Ukrainian. 310 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I have decent enough and according to the ladies the 311 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: accents working for me too so. But yeah, I downloaded 312 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: an app probably about a month out from me coming here, 313 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: and I've been taking my lessons on there and so 314 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: far I've been getting getting decent reviews. Give you a 315 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: sample Chennio tlebab p is even know you? So I said, 316 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to have dinner with me tomorrow? Oh? 317 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: So you've learned the pickup lines. Yes, that's good, Yes 318 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: you've learned. It's very smooth of you. The priorities, uh, 319 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: I would learn like where's the toilet or something like 320 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: you were going to pick up the ladies here in 321 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: the in the Ukraine. Well, and then I'll tell you, though, 322 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: the best part about though here not knowing the language 323 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: is our technology. I literally, anytime I run into trouble, 324 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: I just break out my phone, go to Google Translate, 325 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: and they're doing the same thing like they clearly they're 326 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: used to it, and so if they can't speak it enough, 327 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: they're doing it right back. And so we're just sitting 328 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: there typing on our phones. That's awesome, that is See. 329 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: It breaks down all the barriers and all the walls 330 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: and all that stuff of communication. Imagine traveling back in 331 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: the day before before the phones and stuff like you 332 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: to have like what books out with the language and 333 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: try to figure it all out, right, you got to 334 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: do body language like a motho on that one. Not 335 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: good at that. I would not do well in that 336 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: world if I would not do so, Like day to day, 337 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: paint the picture here, like we know what we see 338 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: on the news here, and that it's obviously an active 339 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: war zone in Russia's bombing in the Ukraine's fighting back 340 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: and all that. So like in the city or are 341 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: people is it just normals? It feel normal? Can you 342 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: tell there's some weird stuff going on? Like and where 343 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: you've been, you traveled all over, So paint the picture here, jascha. 344 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: What's it like day to day there? Sure? So for 345 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: most of the most of the people here, they kind 346 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: of go like as if on the outside they're showing 347 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: like as if nothing is happening, right, nothing is different, 348 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's more of kind of 349 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: like us keeping your sanity thing right, Like like the 350 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: girl I was talking to you before I came over here, 351 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: she said, you know, it would it would drive us 352 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: crazy if we thought about the war too much. So basically, 353 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: we just live our life like it is and if 354 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: we you know, if we get killed, we just hope 355 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: it happens fast. And I was like, wow, that's very 356 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: cold to say, you know, Like I'm used to military 357 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: people saying that, but not civilians. And but you know, 358 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Eastern Europeans also have a kind of a reputation for 359 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: being a little bit you know, more sterne. I don't 360 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: know what's the right word, but you know, they're stoic. 361 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right word. They're able 362 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: to come year mentalize. Yeah, they have a very tough 363 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: that does not happen, um, you know in America very 364 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean people freak out over the right now, we 365 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: freak out over all kinds of bullshit that's going on here. 366 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: So I can if something terrible like this happened here, 367 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: what would would take place? But yeah, what a way 368 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: to live your life, though, Chase Cooper right an, you're 369 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: like something, you know, I guess it's got to be 370 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the way you do it, right, I mean, diagnose the situation. 371 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: You're like, what else? What else can you really do? Yeah, 372 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, And but I found that the bigger 373 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: city you're in pretty much the more safer you're going 374 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: to be, unless you're like all the way out in 375 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: the east where the Russians are, you know, have been 376 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: taken over and so and then of the big cities, 377 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the one that's going to take the most fire is 378 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: the obvious one. Kiv is the capital, right, so you 379 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: take the capital, you cut off the heads. So obviously 380 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: they're constantly trying to mess with Kiv. And the town 381 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: that I go to when I'm not traversing other places 382 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: is one of the closest, bigger towns to Kiv, so 383 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: it kind of benefits from that, right, if if rockets 384 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: are coming, they're gonna go the other the other direction, 385 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, why why I hit this town. 386 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: There's not really much reason to hit this one. Yeah, 387 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: And then like, but all the restaurants are open and 388 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: people are out, you know, just living their lives like 389 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, so no, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Like they 390 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: have curfews everywhere and it can change depending on your region. 391 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: But even while I've been here, the curfew let up 392 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. Like I want to say, the curfew 393 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: was between nine pm and five am. You were not 394 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be out on the streets, and I want 395 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: to say, right now it's like midnight to four. It 396 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: just switched to so um. But yeah, all the places 397 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: I just I did some karaoke, like last time I 398 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: was I was in town. I was like what and 399 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: then they were like, Wow, this American. This guy's like 400 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: she's singing like he's really American. I'm like, because I am. 401 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: You're like wow, You're like you're like the greatest actor 402 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: of all time. Dude, you like seem like a US guy. Wow, 403 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: that's why. And you're like a professional musician Jay School. 404 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: So you must have absolutely dominated the karaoke machine. What's what, Karrie? 405 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: What's your go to karaoke song? Well? I killed it 406 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: because not only my good singer, but I remember part 407 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: of my past I had to do some cover band music, 408 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: so I just like dial up those songs that I've 409 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: done like a million times. So I was doing like 410 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: the Killers, Mister bright Side, Plush by Stone, Temple Pilot, 411 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: It's you know, oh yeah, I just I was slaying. 412 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god. Well, you know the famous 413 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley's story, right, I think this is true. I 414 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: heard this years ago that Elvis went It wasn't a 415 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: karaoke thing, but he went to like an Elvis impersonator 416 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: contest and he didn't win. He finished in like third 417 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: or days because they didn't believe it was him. He 418 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: didn't announce who he was. But but they people and 419 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: like you're a real singer, and people are like, wait 420 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: a minute, what's going that's that's that's wild. As far 421 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: as your timeline, ye, where are you at Jasco? As 422 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: far as you're how long have you been there at 423 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: the time we're talking right now, you've been there, it 424 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: feels like for several weeks. Am I right on that? 425 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Am I wrong on that? Yeah? So I left San 426 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: Francisco on the twenty fifth. I was supposed to get 427 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: here on the twenty seventh. Because of that stupid Vienna fiasco. 428 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: I got here a day and a half later, so 429 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: instead of two and a half of days, it took 430 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: me four days to get here. So so yeah, I 431 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: got here on the twenty eighth. So you've been there 432 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: about as we're talking. You've been there a couple of weeks, 433 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: and and you're you're enjoying the experience. I mean, you're 434 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: obviously you're going there. Just you said this was a 435 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: recon mission. You're trying to figure out the next step 436 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: and all that, and and where you at in that 437 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: journey right now after a couple of weeks into this. Sure, 438 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: So the main thing was, Okay, where on the scale 439 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: am I going to be from fall on the left 440 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: side of the scale as humanitarian and all the way 441 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: on the right side is I'm just gonna volunteer Ukraine 442 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: Army and just boom, I'm in and under their control. 443 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: And obviously I wanted to lean more towards humanitarian UM 444 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: and some of my loved ones were really pushing for 445 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: me to not do the military route. So I was like, well, okay, 446 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: how how's the best way for me to go around this? 447 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: And then I decided, you know, I think a combination 448 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: of financially and and trying to get some goods to 449 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: the right people UM was the route I wanted to go. 450 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: And I knew that I with my background, I'm willing 451 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: to traverse into the areas that you would you would 452 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: not want to go to UM and so I have 453 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: brought a lot of supplies and stuff to the civilians 454 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: in the areas that you normally will see that are 455 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: read the map in Ukraine right now, UM and UH, 456 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: and the soldiers. So I've I've gone, I've gotten to 457 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: mingle with soldiers where I normally would not be able 458 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: to go. But because they were able to verify that 459 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: I was legit with my background, they've let me into 460 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: their kind of inner circle, if you will. So I've 461 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: gotten to go in where where troops are and that's 462 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Unfortunately I can't bring my phone there. Uh. 463 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I believe it when they say if the drone is 464 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: flying around and it detects the cellular signal, it's going 465 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: to launch something at that direction. I don't even know 466 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: if that's true. Is that what they tell you? That's 467 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: why I wonder is do they you think they have? 468 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: The technology is crazy? Right? I know, right? But am 469 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: I going to test it? I know? I know how 470 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: long ago you were in the military for what four years? Right? 471 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: I think you told me so. How long ago did 472 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: you get out? You've been out of the military for 473 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: for a number of years, right, Yeah, it's been quite 474 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: some time. Now. Imagine the technology now and you were not. 475 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's been been a few years. But think 476 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: about where they're at right now with the bells and whistles, 477 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: with the stuff they because every year, right, they come 478 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: up with the new the new technology, and and they're 479 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: always at the forefront the military. I know, Russia's different 480 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: and the Ukraine's using a lot of US stuff though, right, 481 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: they have a lot of a lot of the money 482 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: from the US has gone to the mission for sure. 483 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Well fortunately for me and maybe not fortunately for the 484 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: infantry people. A lot of that stuff doesn't go too 485 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: fast in terms of the advancements and the technology for 486 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: like a normal infantryman. So even like say the rifles 487 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: that they're using right now are just like kind of 488 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: like a brother or sister to what I was using. 489 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: A lot of the gear is adjusted slightly, but it's 490 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: basically the same, Like I could easily just jump into 491 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: it and do whatever. And then obviously aiming and shooting 492 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: is that's like riding a bike. So it's really more 493 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: on the more support side, right, Your types of rockets, 494 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: your drones, all that, these are things that weren't weren't 495 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: there and prevalent with So it's like, okay, I gotta 496 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: be careful getting detected and stuff. Yeah, no, for sure 497 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: for sure. And so when you when you go around, 498 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: you've been there a couple of weeks, now, is there 499 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: is there anything that some of the locals in the Ukraine, 500 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: some of the people you've met in the different cities 501 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: you've traveled to, they have anything they wanted to pass 502 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: on to the people who might be hearing this, and 503 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: like just curious about just the general the sense of 504 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm trying to think of the right 505 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: word here, but there messaging they have, or any kind 506 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: of theme you've heard from the people there. Definitely, yo, 507 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I was very I was very curious because again with 508 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: how tough people are here, you know, you're not sure 509 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna open up and tell you. And then 510 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: much like how I know, you know, being back in 511 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: the States, you know, you ask somebody like, oh, were 512 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: you in the war or you know, you have to 513 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: be careful when you ask them these things because it could, 514 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, be insensitive to that person. So you got 515 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: to know when and when not to ask things. But 516 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, one of the people here, um that I 517 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: became good friends with, I just say, hey, you know, 518 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like what if you could tell America what 519 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, what you're what you're feeling about, what's going on? 520 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: You know what, what would you say? And this is 521 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: what they told quote Honestly, I don't want to say anything. 522 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I know that people abroad or tired of the war, 523 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: and many are angry that everywhere they are burning with war, 524 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: and I understand them. But the fact is that they 525 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: only hear about it and we live in it, and 526 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: they can't even imagine how tired we are. We are 527 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: very tired. We left our home, many families were destroyed, 528 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: how many young guys, including my acquaintances, died. I'm generally 529 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: silent about our Psyoche and after the war we will 530 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: be mentally destroyed because we live one day but we 531 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: do not know where and when something will fall and 532 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: whether we will wake up. But from the outside, we 533 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: don't care about it because we're just tired. Yes, we 534 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: hold on giving ourselves hope every day that we need 535 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: to suffer a little more. But we were promised that 536 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: it would be a little more than a month, and 537 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: it turned out already four hundred and twelve days. It 538 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: makes it to where you don't even want to convey 539 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: to anybody how you feel. How I feel, So that's 540 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. And the shocker for me was the 541 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: month thing. I was like months from the United States side. 542 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, oh Russia's attacking. That sucks. I guess 543 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Ukraine's are about to be wiped out. Like I don't know, 544 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how everybody else thought, but I just thought, 545 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: oh Russia's army must be so big they're not going 546 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: to be able to stop this. And then I remember 547 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: everybody was surprised how good Ukraine was was doing out 548 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: the beginning. So I don't know when that month thing 549 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: came in, but maybe just after that start was good 550 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: for Ukraine. Maybe then they assessed it as a month. 551 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well. The other thing I've learned, and 552 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: I think this goes for any any country, is do 553 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: not believe when they say it's only going to be 554 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: a certain amount of time. I mean, remember when COVID 555 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: started here in the un two weeks, A couple of 556 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: weeks will be good, everything will be all right, will 557 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: identify the problem, pinpoint the issue, everything will be fine, 558 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: and you know, two and a half years later, it's 559 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: like it's like the old the old Bruce willis thing 560 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: him die hard. Right, We'll have a couple of views 561 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: and a couple of ye what's the worst thing that 562 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: can happen? Man? All right, Well, we've kept you long 563 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: enough jascause I know you got stuff to do, and 564 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: I thank it. Boy, the connection has been great, though. 565 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I'm connection here, so stay safe. 566 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: Any idea how long you're gonna be there, just kind 567 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: of taking it day by day. Do you have a 568 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: rough outline and when you'll be heading back to the 569 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: United States. April thirtieth is the date I've kind of 570 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: set for myself that possibly come back. I would stay longer, 571 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: but you know, without without a visa, residency or whatever, 572 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: you're allowed ninety days within a six month period, So 573 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: so I want to be strategic how long I stay. 574 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: So so there's a decent chance on April thirtieth I'll 575 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: start heading back and then at some point I'll probably 576 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: come back over to Ukraine. So yeah, all right, Well, 577 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: if you find your way to Minnesota, Jay School, Big Mallard, 578 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: meet and great. I know that's high on your priority list. 579 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: Jay scoop is to any you've been interacting, I know 580 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: during the show you've been we see. The time difference 581 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: is what time is the show on our shows on 582 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: what time in the Ukraine? Is it in the morning 583 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: or afternoon like when we're doing the show live. So 584 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: for you guys on the Pacific Coast, you would flip 585 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: the AMPM and then you would take two hours away. 586 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: For me, I do the opposite. I flip it and 587 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: I add too. Oh so it starts at nine nine am. 588 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Is that am I rent on it? Right? Your your show? 589 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: H for me, it's one a am here. Oh so 590 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: it goes all because a day and then a couple 591 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: it's ten hours. Ten hours difference is basically what it is, 592 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: all right, I got e saite. I thought it was 593 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: a daytime thing, but it's kind of it is for us. 594 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: It is so at one pm your show it starts here. Yeah, 595 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 1: we're doing mid days. There you go, and all right, 596 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: Jay Scop, thanks stay safe man. I appreciate you doing this. 597 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: And you want to say anything to the fans of 598 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: the show. I know you've been interacting with them on 599 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: Twitter and all that. So any Justin and Cincinnati, your 600 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: your buddy Josh, just Josh, your musical comrade there in 601 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and I know, I know bunch I got 602 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: reached out to me. They want to They've been trying 603 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: to get ahold of Terry in England and some of 604 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: the other guys are like, we gotta get all the 605 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: Jay scope and so they're all following along with your 606 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: journey here for sure. For sure, I miss everybody. I 607 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: missed my musical brother Terry in England. I tried to 608 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: text him. I don't know if he's got a rotary 609 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: phone or what's going on there. So Terry, just so 610 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I tried, man, But yeah, Terry's actually got 611 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: one of the first phones ever when they invented the phone. 612 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: He's no use. It's a tin cannon string. It's fascinating. 613 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. But other than that, uh, 614 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: I still also tried to interact with our podcast kind 615 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: of company um to the show, So just do my 616 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: due diligence. You can find me on the Mallartown podcast 617 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: on all streaming format ATS and it's also now on 618 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: YouTube at YouTube dot com slash at Mallartown. And I 619 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: gotta say, Ozzie Guy works very hard on this on 620 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: this show, and uh and especially lately because some of 621 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: the content. It fell off content wise, but we're revamping it. 622 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna have fresh and new fund parallels to the 623 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: Ben Mallar Show, just as the name mallard Town suggests. 624 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. And we don't do shoutouts, as 625 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, but this week we did not do a 626 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: shout out for Ozzie Guy, who may or may not 627 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: have crossed over into the may have crossed over into 628 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: his forty so, but we did not give him a 629 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: shout out because, as you know, we're not a morning 630 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: Zu show, but on the podcast we can. We could 631 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: do that if we wanted to, but we could. I 632 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: don't think we should though. Yeah, that's overrated, exactly exactly 633 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: all right, Jay Scoop, thank you by man, and we'll 634 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: have you on again down the line. And I can't 635 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: wait for you to get back and come visit us 636 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: in the studio sometime. All right, Love me off, Peace,