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Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free agents. I'm Greg Rosenthal with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. My favorite time of the week. I was

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Speaker 1: on vacation with my family, and you know, my wife

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Speaker 1: wanted to stay a couple extra days. I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I got to get back to DJ. This is where

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Speaker 1: I should be right now. Welcome DJ.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you, buddy. I know you. I

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Speaker 2: know you enjoyed a little getaway there in the beautiful Islands,

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Speaker 2: but it's nice to have you back because it's it's

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Speaker 2: getting close. Man like you got to lock in. Let's

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Speaker 2: focus now, Let's put the put the suntan lotion off

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Speaker 2: to the side, and let's let's dig in and get

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Speaker 2: ready for the draft.

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Speaker 1: It is awesome that it's only a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: away now, and today.

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Speaker 3: We are gonna let me carry the load a little

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Speaker 3: bit heavier.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the pro side of things,

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Speaker 1: what the playoff teams from a year ago have done

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Speaker 1: so far this offseason, and then looking ahead to the draft,

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Speaker 1: kind of what they need to work on. So let's

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Speaker 1: just get into it. The producers really trusting us here.

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Speaker 1: We did a exercise like this with set teams with

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Speaker 1: the new coaches. We're doing all fourteen playoff teams, so

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Speaker 1: we got to keep this thing moving.

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Speaker 3: I know anybody on the.

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Speaker 2: Schedule already, but we will.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with the Chiefs. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs in the offseason made a surprising pickup at

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Speaker 1: left tackle Jalen Moore, after the rumors in reports that

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Speaker 1: they were looking at Ronnie Stanley potentially at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: So when we look at what the Chiefs want to do,

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Speaker 1: I think tackle is still one of their biggest needs.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Moore was a guy for the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: who got five starts late last season. But you look

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Speaker 1: at their right tackle, it's Juwan Taylor. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's a total great long term solution. I could

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Speaker 1: see defensive line outside of Chris Jones and George carloftis still.

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Speaker 3: A little thin there.

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Speaker 1: Running back maybe a sneaky need. Where are you looking

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Speaker 1: where the Chiefs really came up short last season?

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Speaker 3: And then what they need to look at this season.

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Speaker 2: Well a couple things. Number One, Yeah, they make the move.

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Speaker 2: They get Jalen Moore. Jalen Moore's twelve career starts, So

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting all my eggs in that basket and

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Speaker 2: as full as the true cases in Kansas City, they

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Speaker 2: have two more trophies in there if they can protect

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. They lost the game against Tampa, they lost

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl against Philly for the same reason. You

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Speaker 2: need as much insurance as absolutely possible. So when I

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Speaker 2: look at them in the draft, and I can look

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Speaker 2: at some of these other positions, but I just came

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Speaker 2: down to Josh Simmons from Ohio State or Josh Connelly

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Speaker 2: from Oregon, one of you guys is going to be

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Speaker 2: picked thirty first by the Kansas City Chiefs. I just

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Speaker 2: can't see them going in any other direction. So that's

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Speaker 2: why to me that they're one of the teams I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say the most glaring need because they

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Speaker 2: have guys to occupy those positions, but it seems like

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Speaker 2: the directions pretty obvious of where they're going to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: And yet I look at all the teams that we're

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Speaker 1: the first round, and so many need offensive linemen, whether

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Speaker 1: it's interior, whether it's tackles. And I look at Simmons,

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Speaker 1: who has a really high ceiling, maybe the highest of

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Speaker 3: Look at Connor who right? Who? People? I trust? He's

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Speaker 1: I would I would say, out there are close to it,

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Speaker 1: and I do wonder if if it even gets there,

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Speaker 1: and if those guys are off the board, you know,

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Speaker 1: where do they look? It could be a defensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: Maybe not that early in.

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Speaker 1: The draft for the Chiefs, but I could see them

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Speaker 2: No, I just look at it too. They're kind of

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Speaker 2: sneaky bat on third down last year on defense, So again,

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Speaker 2: more guys who can rush in the AFC, knowing who

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Speaker 2: you got to go through. Obviously they're at the top

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Speaker 2: of the mountain, but everybody else you got to go

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Speaker 2: of all the talent of the position. So I would

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Speaker 2: look defensive line. If they did not go there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have to correct you.

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Speaker 1: They'd actually have three more rings if their defense could

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Speaker 3: How about there when they're going up and down the

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Speaker 1: Well, fair point, let's go to the Bills. This is

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Speaker 1: an ideal situation I think for the Bills. If you

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Speaker 1: look at what got in their way last year, I

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Speaker 1: mean in the playoffs, it might have been offensive explosion.

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Speaker 1: But I look at their team, I see a lot

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Speaker 1: opposite Christian Benford, who they just locked up.

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Speaker 3: Where do you think they look in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an option. I just look at them.

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Speaker 2: To me, they're an intriguing team because they have the

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Speaker 2: two second round picks, and this is kind of the

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Speaker 2: sweet spot to me of this draft is like the

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Speaker 2: early part of the second round. So yes, they have

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Speaker 2: when I was looking at them and looking at what

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Speaker 2: direction they could go, I was looking along the defensive line,

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Speaker 2: and to me, like Derek Harmon, Walter Nolan, one of

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Speaker 2: They've got those. You know, they got two talented defensive

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Speaker 2: lines suspended the first six, so man, that helps offset

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Speaker 2: that right away. And if you wanted to come up

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Speaker 2: for another edge, I know they went out and got

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Speaker 2: Joey Bosa, but you can't count on the fact that

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Speaker 2: Joey's going to be able to run out their seventeen weeks.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind, Greg if they use those two second

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Speaker 2: round picks, a combination of one of those picks and

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Speaker 2: something else and came back up to the top of

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Speaker 2: the second round, because I think that's where you're going

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Speaker 2: to see that little sweet spot of edge rushers. Whether

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Speaker 2: that's JT. Tuamalau from Ohio State, where that's Nick Scorton

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Speaker 2: they miss out on a good bunch of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a pretty good edge group, but Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 1: you don't know what you're going to get out of him.

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Speaker 3: That's a one year deal. You mentioned this expension.

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Speaker 1: So they signed Larry Ogan Jobi who's defensive tackle. He

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Speaker 1: suspended Michael Hoyt, who will play some edge. He suspended Ajpanessa.

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Speaker 1: He's in a contract year. So a lot of these

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Speaker 3: I hear you there.

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Speaker 1: And the cornerback need reminds me a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a few years back where they really needed cornerbacks going

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Speaker 1: into the draft. They take Kayer Elam that did not

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Speaker 1: work out in the first round. He's no longer even

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Speaker 1: So I do think they will get cornerbacks at some

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Speaker 1: point in this draft. Let's move on to the team

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Speaker 1: used to root for right and work for the Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: You really root for him when you work for him,

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Speaker 2: trust me.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're probably still rooting for him. You got

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Speaker 1: You always have a good line into the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: they do this thing in free agency every year. They

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Speaker 1: love compensatory picks more than any team that's ever been

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Speaker 1: and because of that, they don't do a lot in

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Speaker 1: these typical just take a shot on some veteran guys

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Speaker 1: that aren't going to hurt your compensatory pick formula. But

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Speaker 1: they really haven't done much in free agency. Where do

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Speaker 1: you look first on a team that doesn't have huge needs,

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Speaker 1: but definitely have I think on the defensive side has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit it defensive side of the ball, thirty

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Speaker 2: first in pass defense, twenty fifth in pressure rate, So

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Speaker 2: you'd like to see him juice that up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: They've got bodies, they've got names. You saw Oway take

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Speaker 2: a step forward last year. Obviously Matty Bikes is an elite,

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Speaker 2: Nick Gordon's the name of a guy who kind of

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Speaker 2: fits that rugged style that they play. Or if they

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Speaker 2: wanted another fastball, if you want to go out there

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Speaker 2: that could make some sense. The other name I wrote

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Speaker 2: down was Ben Morrison is a corner out of Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: who the Ravens are really good at finding value, and

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Speaker 2: if he had had a healthy season. He had a

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Speaker 2: him up with Wiggins, you've got two young corners. And

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Speaker 2: the last little note I wrote down about Baltimore in

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Speaker 2: terms of the draft, a Ravens thing to do, like

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Speaker 2: the typical Ravens thing to do, is knowing that they

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Speaker 2: have Isaiah likely this is the total they will trade

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Speaker 2: Mark Andrews, Like it makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: In a deep tight end draft, you offload Mark Andrews

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Speaker 2: In a mid round pick. I would guess you probably

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Speaker 2: that's given me that that just having known this organization

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and early in the off season there were a

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Speaker 1: they paid him a roster bonus, which seemed to put

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Speaker 1: him on the roster, but then again it might help

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Speaker 1: because they were in front of microphones. Again, what else

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Speaker 1: are you going to say? And you mentioned the edge position.

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Speaker 1: One thing I did want to ask about the Ravens specifically.

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Speaker 1: They say to like to double up at positions, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't notice oway Is is a free agent. I

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Speaker 1: believe after this year. Kyle van Noy is a free agent.

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Speaker 3: So that that's one. They're very good at planning ahead.

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Speaker 1: Do you think maybe that's a position they could they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: And they've done it, you know. I remember being there

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Speaker 1: Well and famously, Yeah, they took a tight end ahead

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Texans.

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Speaker 1: I love that they looked at this offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: I know Laramie Tunzel is a talented player, but they

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Speaker 3: We just need to start over.

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Speaker 1: So we need to start over with the coaches, We

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Speaker 1: trade Laramie tunseel at left tackle, they trade Kendrick Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not only were they not good, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they bring in Christen Kirk at wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Do you think twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five, is that a spot where value might meet up

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you look your quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: And that's why to me, I just wrote down Tyler

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Speaker 2: Booker coming out of Alabama. Think about Demico Ryans and

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Speaker 2: And I think it's worked out pretty well for him

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a no doubter. And then grays Abel

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Speaker 2: have issues with some of those games that were befuddling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I, you know, listened to Tamiko Ryans. I

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Speaker 1: He did think that they ultimately were a little too

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Speaker 3: So he's a defensive guy.

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Speaker 1: If they go defense at any point, I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be defensive tackle. They brought in Sheldon Rankins this offseason

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Speaker 3: And the line I saw the edges are incredible.

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Speaker 2: I saw him up close, and that was as fast

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Speaker 2: how do you not go offensive line? I mean you

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Speaker 2: read off some of the names they brought in and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're hoping the new coaching staff, led by

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, that makes the most sense to me.

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Speaker 3: And let's flip.

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Speaker 1: It to the team that they beat that you were

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Speaker 3: And I went back.

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Speaker 1: Do you think like interior line is still that big

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Speaker 1: of a priority.

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Speaker 3: For the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll pick one up along the way, But

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Speaker 2: you know, with the plan to move Zion Johnson at

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Speaker 2: and get Mackay becked and they've addressed it in their

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Speaker 2: They've got to get guys who can win one on

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Speaker 2: one to compliment Lad McConkie, who had I think he

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Speaker 2: running mate. And that's why I wrote down three names

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Speaker 2: of mismatch players. Guys, if you want to line up

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Speaker 2: the Michigan connection with Jim Harbaugh. His skill set would

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Speaker 2: in this offense. You know, maybe it's a little early

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Speaker 2: those in with some home runs. They didn't really have

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Speaker 2: He's not that type of back, So Travon Henderson pass

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Speaker 2: protect use him in the route hit home runs. That's

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Speaker 2: the connections of the familiarity. If he starts to drop

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Speaker 2: that would be one of those ones that wouldn't shock me.

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Speaker 1: Hm, I love that and I do like that running

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Speaker 2: Need to get fast.

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Speaker 3: Let's wrap up.

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Speaker 2: They need to get faster on offense. That was my

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Speaker 2: This team has got to get more dynamic on offense.

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Speaker 1: I will never forget the sun the Sunday night I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna get out of there. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I think it was Bunny, And yeah, you got to

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Speaker 3: He could run.

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Speaker 1: But you're not in a great spot if you're talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to change that conversation and Stone smart gut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he went to the Jets. I like that pick

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Speaker 1: Another team that needs a little more like on the

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Speaker 1: to be on this roster in twenty twenty five. I

439
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Speaker 1: think you could look at that playoff game and in

440
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Speaker 1: general the way the season and then they couldn't really

441
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Speaker 1: stop the run. Rooney talked about it a little bit again.

442
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Speaker 1: I go back to the quotes from the people that matter.

443
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Speaker 1: When you're when your owners talking about not being will

444
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Speaker 1: stop the run that matter? So to me, I'm thinking

445
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Speaker 1: either it's an offensive weapon, or maybe it's a spot

446
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 1: for Kenneth Grant. I'm throwing out names here at DJ

447
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: What do you think of that.

448
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 2: I hate it when we completely agree on something, because

449
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 2: I literally in my notes here I've got nuggets on,

450
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 2: you know, the passing yards per game, offensively being an

451
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,199
Speaker 2: obviously an issue. We'll see what happens with the quarterback.

452
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 2: We assume it's going to be Aaron Rodgers as we're

453
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Speaker 2: recording this. That's not done yet. I do like the

454
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Speaker 2: offensive line, especially if they get Fatanu back healthy for

455
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Speaker 2: a whole year. I think they've got a talented young group,

456
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Speaker 2: kind of an underrated, good young offensive line I think

457
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Speaker 2: is going to take the next step forward. But this

458
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Speaker 2: is a team with the twenty first pick. I wrote down,

459
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Speaker 2: if offensively Omarion Hampton to give him some juice and

460
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Speaker 2: some firepower. In the past, they've had to choose between

461
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Speaker 2: the quickness of Jalen Warren or the power of Najee Harris.

462
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Speaker 2: Now you get to have both in one body here

463
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Speaker 2: in Omarion Hampton. But the other thing I wrote down, unfortunately,

464
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Speaker 2: you beat me to the punch. Cam Hayward being thirty

465
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Speaker 2: five years old, Kenneth Grant. He just there's certain guys

466
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Speaker 2: that feel like Pittsburgh Steelers. And when I watched Kenneth

467
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Speaker 2: Grant and looked at this roster, I was like, mm,

468
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Speaker 2: that one makes a lot of sense.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's funny whatever's old becomes new again in the NFL.

470
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Speaker 1: And for so long, these run stoppers who you would

471
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Speaker 1: call two down players, two gap guys, they kind of

472
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Speaker 1: go out of fash and they start, you know, falling

473
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Speaker 1: in the draft and not getting as big contracts. And

474
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Speaker 1: now you got all these defense who want to play

475
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Speaker 1: light up front, and suddenly you need those guys again.

476
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Speaker 1: And man, there aren't many like him that are that big,

477
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Speaker 1: that's strong. It seems like he's gonna go high somewhere.

478
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Speaker 1: They could use some secondary depth to the Other thing

479
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Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense to me with the Steelers that

480
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Speaker 1: I've heard in the draft process is their love of

481
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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe. I like Jalen Milroe a lot. I'm gonna

482
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Speaker 1: be looking forward to who gives him a chance. But

483
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Speaker 1: they don't have a second round pick. That feels like

484
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a luxury situation. I don't know

485
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Speaker 1: where they take Jalen Milroe even if he falls to

486
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Speaker 1: them in the third round, you're gonna take a development

487
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Speaker 1: quarterback as one of your only.

488
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Speaker 2: I can I just put a little water on that

489
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Speaker 2: can I put a little water on that fire. So

490
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Speaker 2: I you talk to people throughout this process. A lot

491
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Speaker 2: of people are in town during pro days and at

492
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Speaker 2: different times of the year. And I talked to somebody

493
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Speaker 2: who happened to be in the restaurant when the Pittsburgh

494
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Speaker 2: Steelers were having dinner as it was reported with Jalen Milroe.

495
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Speaker 2: Only the little tidbit that seemed to be left out

496
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Speaker 2: was there were like six other Alabama players there with

497
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Speaker 2: them eating dinner. So I was like, you know, that's

498
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Speaker 2: a that's kind of draft season and in nutshell right there.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's why I took just a few days

500
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Speaker 1: off here. We pre taped some shows for NFL Daily.

501
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Speaker 1: We're doing that, but this is the time of year

502
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Speaker 1: where like visits are being reported as headline news. It's like,

503
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Speaker 1: just all right, get me to Green Bay, let's go

504
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Speaker 1: to Denver. My my biggest issue watching them, and they

505
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Speaker 1: were a pretty complete team in terms of I don't

506
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Speaker 1: think they had major weaknesses. They have a nice looking roster.

507
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Speaker 1: They're feeling themselves. More on that in a second, but

508
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Speaker 1: I would say it's just a little more pop on

509
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Speaker 1: the offense.

510
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Speaker 3: The offense.

511
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Speaker 1: To me, bow Knicks symbolizes this offense a good player,

512
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Speaker 1: but maybe you need a little more explosive ability around

513
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Speaker 1: bow Knicks. It's a good, not great offense. So I

514
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Speaker 1: think they need to go look for some great players

515
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Speaker 1: on offense wherever they can find them, not on the

516
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Speaker 1: offensive line where they're looking pretty good overall.

517
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Speaker 2: I just look at Sean Payton's best teams and I

518
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Speaker 2: feel like they're built inside out. We've talked about it

519
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Speaker 2: over the years, right you know, hey, strong interior, you

520
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: want a nice firm pocket for Drew Brees. That's where

521
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Speaker 2: you're going to invest. Then you look at the weapons

522
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Speaker 2: the offense a lot of times running through tight ends,

523
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Speaker 2: running through big slot receiver with Mike Thomas running through.

524
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Speaker 2: You know, a guy like Reggie Bush in the backfield

525
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Speaker 2: is a mismatch player. So finding mismatches with a slot

526
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Speaker 2: with a tight end with a back So they go

527
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Speaker 2: out and they spend money on Evan Ingram. I don't

528
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Speaker 2: know that that takes them out on a guy like

529
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Speaker 2: Colston levelin who would be that type of player. I

530
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Speaker 2: would think that would still be very much a possibility.

531
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Speaker 2: But I tweeted this out Greg. When I'm going through

532
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Speaker 2: these teams and I'm looking at a guy who could

533
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Speaker 2: fit and could make a lot of sense, man, Trayvon

534
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: Henderson's name comes up an awful lot of like you

535
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Speaker 2: just try and envision what people would look like in

536
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Speaker 2: the offense, and I'm sitting here going man for a

537
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Speaker 2: guy who used to draw up plays for Reggie Bush,

538
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Speaker 2: it would be pretty fun to have a guy like

539
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Speaker 2: Trayvon Henderson all that he can do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we've talked on this show about what teams

541
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Speaker 1: do in free agency tells you maybe what they're looking

542
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Speaker 1: at for the draft. And when Denver essentially decided to

543
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Speaker 1: pass on running backs in free agents at least in

544
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Speaker 1: terms of meaningful ones that you would expect to start,

545
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Speaker 1: kind of like the Titans, you know, signing Brandon Allen

546
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. It told me they're probably looking at running back,

547
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Speaker 1: whether it's pick one or pick two. I think it's

548
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Speaker 1: gonna be early. They're a little on my radar just

549
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Speaker 1: for like they're feeling themselves right now. I think they

550
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Speaker 1: are super Bowl contenders. When you look at this roster.

551
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious what you think whether they're at that stage,

552
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Speaker 1: because on paper it looks all great. I don't know

553
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Speaker 1: if they have enough difference making players. I don't see

554
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Speaker 1: them in that in that category. It's harder to me

555
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: to go from good to a true Super Bowl contender

556
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Speaker 1: than it is to go what they did, which was

557
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Speaker 1: from pretty mediocre to good.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, the defense is really talented. They have a

559
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Speaker 2: lot of good players at all levels of their defense.

560
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Speaker 2: So I think it's you know, it's a team on

561
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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball I could feel pretty

562
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Speaker 2: good about. And when you have a corner like that,

563
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Speaker 2: it makes life easier on you. I just I see

564
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: this team twice a year and doing the Charger games.

565
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Speaker 2: I don't know that at the present moment. And tell

566
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Speaker 2: me if you can think of one I don't know

567
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Speaker 2: of a guy that you're like, oh crap, we better

568
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Speaker 2: slow this guy down offensively, Like, who is the one

569
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Speaker 2: guy that strikes fear in you at that on that team?

570
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Speaker 2: They got some good players, no question, but there's nobody

571
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Speaker 2: that I'm like, man, we better put a game plan

572
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Speaker 2: together to slow this guy down.

573
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Speaker 1: Right, it's more about the scheme, it's more about the

574
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Speaker 1: line put together. I mean that that contract they gave

575
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Speaker 1: Quinn Minors a year ago at guard looks like a

576
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Speaker 1: total bargain. They know how to evaluate Sean Payton. That

577
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Speaker 1: the thing he builds up those lines. And that's why

578
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Speaker 1: defensive line is another thing to keep an eye on,

579
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Speaker 1: just because Zach Allen, Jonathan Franklin, Myers, Malcolm Roach, all

580
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Speaker 1: good players for them all have their contracts ending. So

581
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Speaker 1: when I see a pattern like that on a roster,

582
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Speaker 1: that that's another position that they could look at. But

583
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Speaker 1: they're in a good position. We're in a good spot.

584
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Speaker 1: We actually did that AFC pretty quickly. We're going to

585
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Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be back and do

586
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Speaker 1: the NFC playoff teams back on forties and free agents.

587
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Speaker 1: And yes, it's Daniel Jeremiah season, the busiest man in

588
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: show business this time of year. We're putting him to

589
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: work today. We're going through all the playoff teams from

590
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Speaker 1: a year ago. We're looking at where they fell short

591
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Speaker 1: and maybe where they will be looking in the draft.

592
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Speaker 1: And so we get to the Detroit Lions and for

593
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Speaker 1: this exercise, I was like, well, what got in the

594
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Speaker 1: way of this team last year. Obviously it's injuries number one,

595
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Speaker 1: But if I had to look at something else, maybe

596
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Speaker 1: it's past rush depth. They could go in a lot

597
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Speaker 1: of directions. DJ, I don't know where you looked right off.

598
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Speaker 2: The top, Yeah, I mean to me, it's just pass rush.

599
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team that was thirtieth in

600
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Speaker 2: passing yards per game, tied for twenty third, and sacks. Obviously,

601
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Speaker 2: hudginson injury is a big part of that. It was

602
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Speaker 2: nice to see the video of him running the other day.

603
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: He looked pretty good, but I think you still have

604
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Speaker 2: to bake in some more insurance there. So when I

605
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: looked at this team, I think edge rusher. I also,

606
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Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned that the top of the second

607
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Speaker 2: round is kind of a sweet spot for edge rushers

608
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Speaker 2: and a lot of drafts, and especially in this draft,

609
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Speaker 2: I think there's some good quality players to be found there.

610
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Speaker 2: So I just kicked around the idea of, Hey, let's see,

611
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Speaker 2: does a team want to come up. You know, you've

612
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Speaker 2: got some tackle teams picking behind him, so maybe there's

613
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Speaker 2: an offensive tackle there somebody would want to move up for.

614
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Speaker 2: You also, have you know, we always discuss is there

615
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Speaker 2: a team coming in to get a quarterback get extra

616
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Speaker 2: year on that contract. They would be a team to

617
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Speaker 2: me that would make sense to try and trade back.

618
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Speaker 2: And when I was looking at guys that fit Landing

619
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Speaker 2: Accent's body type, like if you just saw the silhouettes,

620
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 2: he would look very similar to Hutchinson. Now, he's not

621
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Speaker 2: as loose as Bendy and as good of a player

622
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Speaker 2: as a guy who was you know, I thought was

623
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Speaker 2: the best player in his draft class in Aidan Hutchinson.

624
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Speaker 2: But he kind of cuts that image. He fits that

625
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: that style of what they look for in edge rushers

626
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: and plays really really hard, which I think, you know,

627
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell would appreciate. So they were a team that

628
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: I thought could be a trade back candidate when I

629
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Speaker 2: was looking at it that.

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Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense.

631
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Speaker 1: Also, the way you patted yourself on the back there

632
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Speaker 1: for being so right about Aiden Hutchinson, I saw that

633
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: that was good.

634
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: No, I did. It was not a pick?

635
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Speaker 1: Was this?

636
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Speaker 2: What was he the second pick?

637
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

638
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean just like my first I mean, come on,

639
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: it's not like you knew he.

640
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: Was going to be that good. All right.

641
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Speaker 1: My hottest Lions take is that their offensive line was

642
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: like a smidge overrated last year, like very good pass

643
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: protecting team, but I think the scheme helps them.

644
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Speaker 3: They're getting a little older.

645
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Speaker 1: I think if you have the same offensive line, obviously

646
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: it's fantas for continuity sake, But I wouldn't be surprised

647
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: if they refresh that offensive line. They think like the Eagles,

648
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: where they want to build up front and maybe not

649
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: as good I think upfront in terms of the run

650
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: blocking the interior maybe as they were in the past.

651
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Speaker 3: So wouldn't surprise me.

652
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: You keep mentioning Tyler Booker, they seem like they could

653
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: be a possible team for him as well.

654
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he'll get there. I don't. I

655
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: don't think Tyler Booker makes it to pick number twenty eight,

656
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: So that could be, you know, part of the challenge there.

657
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: I think maybe Donovan Jackson would be someone that would

658
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: be more in that range. They they should know him

659
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: very well in terms of proximity to where they are.

660
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: And I saw I was at a Michigan Oregon game.

661
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: I saw Brad Holmes out there as a GM. He

662
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: gets out man, he gets out and scouts and doesn't

663
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: just stay in his comfortable office there. So I know

664
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: he's been out and seeing all these guys and that

665
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't totally shock me. You know, the elephant in the

666
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: room with this team, we're talking about what they did

667
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: and you know, we're looking at him in free agency

668
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: and who they lost, who they brought in, and who

669
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: they could draft. Greg the coordinators there, that's a big deal, man,

670
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: Like that's TBD. You know you've got, you know, new

671
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, and a team that we

672
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: would probably agrees, but one of the best, you know,

673
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: run best coach teams in the NFL. That's a little

674
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: bit up in the air.

675
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as Dan Campbell will say, look, it's guys

676
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: that have been in the building. Kelvin Shepherd is their

677
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. He's been there, They believe in him,

678
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: They are developing their coaches. He's done a great job

679
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: building that stuff. And then John Morton a little older,

680
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, but he was there in the building

681
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: as well as they were building up the Lions a

682
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: couple of years back before he went to the Broncos.

683
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: So some continuity, I'm with you. They also mentioned wide receivers.

684
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: It's an expensive position. Is Jamison Williams going to get

685
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: a long term deal there that at some point they

686
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: might look to go back there.

687
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Bucks though. We got to keep

688
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: this thing the Bucks.

689
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: Said publicly Todd Bowles that is that they're not going

690
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: to pass on offense if it's the right value. That

691
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Bowls as a defensive coach knows they have big defensive needs,

692
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: but he's learned that scoring points will make your defense

693
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: look a lot better. I feel like that's lip service,

694
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: and he's saying that because they know they need defense.

695
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: You never know how the board is gonna fall. But

696
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: it could be a pass rusher, it could be a cornerback.

697
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: In general, I think the defense hasn't drafted enough difference

698
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: makers and they're thin at a couple spots.

699
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: Where do you have them looking.

700
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: So you know they had Reddick, which I think getting

701
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: a full offseason in there and getting comfortable that'll help

702
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: them For a team that was twenty ninth in pass

703
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: defense last year. I wrote down Donovanizeraku from Boston College

704
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: as a guy who makes a lot of sense for them,

705
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: who just knows is real, polished by the way, polarizing player.

706
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: There are some teams that are not as high on

707
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: him because they don't think he plays with a lot

708
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: of power. But to me, he knows how to rush,

709
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: he knows how to win, He's instinctive, he could finish

710
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: by all accounts to like, character, work, ethic, all that

711
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: stuff off the charts. So to me, he felt like

712
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: just a great fit there for where they're picking at

713
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: number nineteen. And I saw this team in person last

714
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: year Greg doing the Charger games and studying them and

715
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: then seeing them live and in person. This is one

716
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: of the most physical teams in the NFL. I mean

717
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: when you look at what Vitavea can do defensively, and

718
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: that offensive line will maul you. They will beat you

719
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: up with werfs in company, that I just think that

720
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: is I don't know if that's talked about. We think

721
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: about the tough, rugged teams, We think about AFC North

722
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: and some of those. This Tampa Bay Bucks team can

723
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: fight with anybody. I mean they are a physical, physical bunch.

724
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just need like you're you're absolutely right at

725
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: just a little more juice. They drafted Chris braswell as

726
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: an edge guy.

727
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: You mentioned.

728
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: They brought in Hassan Redick, so it might not be ed.

729
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Jayad Diabi has developed into a good young player. He

730
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, that is, put his cornerback Jamel Deanon notice

731
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: publicly saying he's gonna have to fight for his spot,

732
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: that he's not really the number one cornerback anymore, which

733
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: is kind of fighting where it's publicly. So cornerback could

734
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: be another position today, Barron, do you think. I don't

735
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: know if he falls this far, but he'd be an

736
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: interesting thing. I feel like to us would know what

737
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: to do with him.

738
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: I would run that one up there. I would have

739
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: fun with that one. Run it right up there.

740
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: That would be fun, all right.

741
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: The Rams publicly last week at the owners meetings, rather

742
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: had Sean McVay say and he hasn't studied quarterbacks very hard,

743
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: which is interesting. My mock draft that I did with

744
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: with Nate Tye an NFL Daily earlier this week, I

745
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: gave him Shdur Sanders because he fell that far to

746
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: them in that exercise. But maybe mcveigh's just trying to

747
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: throw us off the send. Their biggest issue in the

748
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: playoffs was stopping the run. Now they signed Poona Ford.

749
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that that means you don't look at

750
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: that position in the draft. I don't know where you

751
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: see their biggest need.

752
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at some of the numbers, I mean

753
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: defensively twenty sixth total yards per game, which seems which

754
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: kind of stunned me because we know how good that

755
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: young defensive line is, so obviously you've got some issues

756
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: that can be address.

757
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: That Bill's game, DJ, that Bill's game where they put

758
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: up about seven hundred yards.

759
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: That hurt the numbers. I looked at the two spots.

760
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: I looked at the secondary. I looked at Trey Amos

761
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: as a guy who just kind of felt like their

762
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: type of player out of Old miss. This is a

763
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: guy who's got really really good eyes, sees everything well,

764
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: and then can play off and drive on the football.

765
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: This is a RAMS team that's a Cover three, you know,

766
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: quarter quarter half team. They're not going to just line

767
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: up there and go knows and nose and play man coverage.

768
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: And I think that's the only area where a guy

769
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: like Amos could get exposed a little bit. So to me,

770
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: he just felt like a perfect fit for what they

771
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: do and how they played defensively. And then I also

772
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: wrote down, you know, Josh Connerly. I know, you know

773
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: they paid the left tackle Eric Jackson, but you know,

774
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: I look on the other side and having stains a

775
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: good player. I think he's maybe thirty two. But continuing

776
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: to add to that offensive line, I think Connorly, if

777
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: you needed him to, you know, he could move around,

778
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: but just continue to add quality players along the line

779
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: of scrimmage is not a bad way to go.

780
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned trading back for the Lions. I

781
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: feel like the Rams would be another possiblit because they

782
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: don't have a second round pick. They lost it last

783
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: year in a trade up, you know, and they're loving

784
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: those defensive a lignemen that they drafted, but they're missing

785
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: their second round pick. And Lesnied always says, you know,

786
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: we have this amount of picks, eight picks right now,

787
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: but he's always making trades. So it wouldn't surprise me if

788
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: he traded back. And maybe you take a cornerback then

789
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: in the second round, because they're a team that kind

790
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: of stayed away from cornerbacks. They've gotten cheap, like they've

791
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: been going with a Kella Witherspoon and bringing back Darius

792
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: Williams and they made it work.

793
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: But maybe they trade back to do that. What do

794
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: you think that's possible.

795
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: The other thing, and I'm not saying this with them

796
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: in particular, but I would not be surprised if in

797
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: this draft there's a team that looks at the lack

798
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: of tackles in this draft and decides, Okay, I can

799
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: maybe upgrade one of my tackles. I can take a

800
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 2: player in this draft and guess what, now, my maybe

801
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: aging veteran is going to have value on the trade

802
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: market because at least you have a starting caliber player

803
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: and other teams are going to miss out on that

804
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: tackle run. I don't know. It's one of those kind

805
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: of outside the box things you think about. As a

806
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: team that maybe has a tackle on the wrong side

807
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: of thirty, we can upgrade it, we can get younger,

808
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: we can get cheaper and maybe a little bit better,

809
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: and then also have an asset that we could move

810
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: and get something for.

811
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

812
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: I just think the Rams are gonna look at this

813
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: as a as go time, and they're going to try

814
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: to build.

815
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: For now, but build for the future, but especially for now.

816
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, go time. That's why you had them taking That's

817
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: why I had them taking a quarterback in your mock

818
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: draft now go time? Is that? Is that how you're phrasing?

819
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: Well, it just it was like what we would do.

820
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: And I just thought, at that point in the draft,

821
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, the value think about the future.

822
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: But you're right, maybe.

823
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Sure Stafford would just be elated with that, with with

824
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: your selection.

825
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: It's a good point. The more the more I thought

826
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: about it, the less it made sense.

827
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: Workshop those things by me, you know, I got I

828
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: know you're on vacation, but just shoot me a text

829
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: workshop these these.

830
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: Wasn't it was.

831
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: It was it was before that. And yeah, Jimmy g

832
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: is a pretty well paid backup. They still have Stetson Bennett.

833
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't really make a lot of sense, make a lot

834
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: of sense if the Vikings took a quarterback either they've

835
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: got their guy for now, for the future, for JJ McCarthy.

836
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: They have the fewest picks in the.

837
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: Draft, picks four. Yeah, four, that's it.

838
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: And they they knew that, and so they spent huge

839
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: money on the interior on the offensive line and.

840
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 3: The defensive line.

841
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: They brought in that Colts you know, interior line group

842
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: on offense, and then they brought a couple of big

843
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: names Javon Hargrave Jonathan Allen on defense, and yet I

844
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that stops them from looking at those

845
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: positions for the future. They're a tough team to come

846
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: up with the biggest need. I have my pick, but

847
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go first.

848
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: What do you get?

849
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Well, first of all three hundred million dollars in free agency,

850
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: just to put a number to how aggressive they were

851
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: and what they did, knowing that they didn't have draft

852
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: picks to address things. So they were very aggressive in

853
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: the offseason on the front end. Now the back end

854
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: not as many picks. I just look at Harrison Smith

855
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: as a thirty six year old, and I look at

856
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: versatile athletic safeties can do different things, and there's two

857
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: of them in this draft that are first round caliber players.

858
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: That's Emon Warri from South Carolina, who I would love

859
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: to see in this Brian Flores defense just as a

860
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: blitzer and how they could incorporate him and use him.

861
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean he is he is a dynamic player at

862
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: that size at two hundred and twenty pounds who can run,

863
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: make plays on the ball as well as again play

864
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: the run and blitz him in that scheme. I thought

865
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: would just be a lot of fun. And then Malachi

866
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Starks from Georgia a different safety, more of a high safety.

867
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: Good play him as a nickel if you wanted to,

868
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: but to me, float over the top, let him range

869
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: and make plays. But those two safeties, to me, I

870
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: just thought would make sense. With Harrison Smith at thirty

871
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: six years old.

872
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're playing almost positionless football. Harrison Smith and

873
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the Vikings maybe bond conversation about whether he even was

874
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna play this year or not. So it feels like

875
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: this might be his last season, and you got to

876
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: plan for the future. And if you look at cornerback

877
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: and I kind of mix them all together with the

878
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: way they use their nickelback, Makai Blackman's coming off of

879
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: an injury, and Brian Flores apparently really targeted Isaiah Rodgers

880
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: from the Charger, I mean from the Eagles rather, who

881
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: was once on the Colts, and so he's probably gonna

882
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: be a good player for them. But you're counting on

883
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: those two guys to play a lot of snaps. That's

884
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: a little it's a little risky. I like this Vikings team.

885
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe they're over under it was eight and

886
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: a half wins. Not that you're getting into the over under,

887
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: but I was like, I do not see this team

888
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: as as less than the rest of this division.

889
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Really, I think they're right up there with them.

890
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's probably a reflection on what they

891
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: think of the rest of the division and how stacked

892
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: it is, So that's part of the counts. But they're right,

893
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: They're right, we've got an unknown. We liked what we

894
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: saw on a very small sample size of JJ McCarthy,

895
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: but we don't know.

896
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: That's fair.

897
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: The Packers were obviously right there with the Vikings last year. Defensively,

898
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: they just feel like they need more juice at a

899
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: number of positions. I feel like we could just say

900
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: this every year at draft time. Brian Goodakun says done

901
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: a great job overall, and yet he has taken a

902
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: lot of swings on the defensive side of the ball,

903
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: and I still don't feel like they have their total

904
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: core pieces at a number of positions. So I'm curious

905
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: where you think they would target first out of the

906
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: defensive side.

907
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: They just have a pattern. They love you know athletic

908
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: in you know front seven sec players. So I just

909
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: wrote down Walter Nolan. I'm like, just throw them into

910
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: that mix of all those guys. You know, you got

911
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: a bunch of really athletic, explosive players in that front seven.

912
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: Now you like to see it all come together. Edrin Cooper,

913
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: by the way, is going to be awesome. So they've

914
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of talent there. It hasn't all

915
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: kind of bubbled up to the surface yet, but I

916
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: think they just continue to throw more guys into the mix.

917
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: So that's that's the direction I went. I wouldn't sleep

918
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: on a corner there either. But where they're picking, kind

919
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: of the twenty third pick, they missed kind of the

920
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: you know, the early wave of the top two guys,

921
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: and then it's kind of in that in between spot

922
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: of where you go there. Max Harriston, you know, could

923
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: make some sense the corner out of Kentucky who can

924
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: really really run again, just just find a real athletic

925
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: traitcy uh sec defensive player and throw them in there.

926
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Right And they they did an address cornerback somewhat in

927
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: the offseason with Nate Hobbs, who they're saying they could

928
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: play him on the outside. They don't see him as

929
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: just an inside player. We don't know. If JayR Alexander

930
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: could be moved on draft Day, wouldn't be a total

931
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: surprise if he ends up going for like a Day

932
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: three pick in that in that game in the in

933
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs that they lost to the Eagles, their their

934
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: interior offensive line got got carved in. So they they

935
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: signed Aaron Banks. But I still think it both be

936
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: positions that they go for. Yeah, and in the pass rush,

937
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: like they've invested a lot DJ and they didn't get

938
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: a ton of production last week.

939
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Go on, Yeah, no again, That's what I'm saying. The

940
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: the talent hasn't the performance hasn't married the talent. There

941
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: is talent. I do believe that this is a talented group,

942
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: but they just haven't got that production performance out of

943
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: it yet.

944
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and they were better last year after

945
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: the change in defensive coordinator, just not as good as

946
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: they were hoping to be. More to come on forties

947
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: in free agents. Back in a minute, we are back

948
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: on forties and free agency. All right, let's talk commanders.

949
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Their biggest needs are clearly on the defensive side. You

950
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: made it all the way to the NFC Championship game

951
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: without really having your defense be good all season. It

952
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: was an offense first team and the defense was just

953
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: hanging on and trying to make opportunistic plays. And so

954
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: as big a need as I think any team we've

955
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: talked about today is their edge position where Dorrin's Armstrong

956
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: is their number one edge. I don't even know who

957
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: you would put as their number two, but to me,

958
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: that's probably their biggest need. Is there is there a

959
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: guy you think fits there at edge? I'm gonna put

960
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: you on the spot.

961
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's some definitely some guys there. Nick s

962
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: Gorton is the name that I that I jotted down

963
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: with that ninth overall pick that I thought, you know,

964
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: he's kind of climbed up into that realm, which I

965
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: should explain by the way. Nick Gordon is like one

966
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: of those fascinating stories where I watched him on the

967
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: tape this fall. I did not love him. He was

968
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: just outside my top fifty. I ended up he's like

969
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: forty nine, forty eight, forty nine, somewhere in that range,

970
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: and you kind of you're gathering information as you go

971
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: through the process. Well, I see him at the Pro

972
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: day and saw a picture of him, and I was like,

973
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: holy crud like he looked he looked really good, like

974
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: just not only you know the way he moved around,

975
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: and you hear about that, but just body type wise.

976
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: Then you find out he played like two eighty. They

977
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: built they they wanted to really kind of bulk him

978
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: up at A and M, and he's at his pro

979
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: day at two fifty seven. This guy's like a toy.

980
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: He looks like a totally different human being. So then

981
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: you talk to teams and D line coaches and they're like, well,

982
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: go back and watch him at Purdue before he transferred.

983
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: He was a different body type there. He moved around better.

984
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: So you go through the whole process. I'm like, Okay,

985
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: now this kind of makes sense of why you're hearing

986
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: him get some of this attention in this buzz. You know,

987
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: he's just he's a literally a different human being than

988
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: the one that I watched in the fall. So long

989
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: story short, Nick Gorton to me, would make some sense there,

990
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: But I wanted to on this team. Greg, go back

991
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: to what you said a few episodes ago. I want

992
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: to say, which is this Washington team's done all these

993
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: one year deals. So I got me thinking as I

994
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: was getting ready for this, I'm like, Okay, why are

995
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: they doing that? What's going on? Let me just read

996
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: off the names of the first round picks they had

997
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: before Adam Peters and Dan Quinn showed up in twenty twenty.

998
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: It was Chase Young, who's been a good player obviously

999
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: just got paid no longer there, Jame and Davis linebacker,

1000
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: Johan Dottson receiver, Emmanuel Forbes corner. The reason they're going

1001
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: out and side all these guys because they had literally

1002
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: they inherited like a blank broster, like they had to

1003
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: just overhaul the entire thing, and in order to make

1004
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: all it all work, just get a bunch of these veterans,

1005
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: put them in these short term deals. I think, you know,

1006
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: everybody wants to play the comp pit game. You gotta

1007
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: be patient with the with Washington because they have to

1008
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: build up their core. They don't have their That's amazing.

1009
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: They went to the championship game last year and they

1010
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: don't even really have like a core, Like they're still

1011
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: building the core part of this thing. That's how good

1012
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback is.

1013
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: By the way, right, it was like the quarterback and

1014
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: the marriage of him and the scheme and having a

1015
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: true number one receiver in Terry McLaurin. But after that,

1016
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: like the offense needed more pop, they bring in Deebo Samuel.

1017
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: We'll see how that works out.

1018
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsel is obviously a multi year solution at left

1019
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: tackle and an upgrade. And so it's not like they're

1020
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: totally done on defense. But then I mean on offense rather,

1021
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: But I do look at the defense, whether it's getting

1022
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: younger at linebacker. They bring in Jonathan Jones, a former Patriot,

1023
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: to place them at cornerback, but you're kind of old

1024
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: there in the secondary with him and Marshawn Lattimore getting

1025
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: so many snaps, so you could absolutely add another cornerback.

1026
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: To me, it's it's pretty wide open. I just hope

1027
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: Commanders fans need to have like a reasonable expectations of

1028
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: where this team goes from there, like just just be

1029
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: happy you've got Jayden Daniels.

1030
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be long term bet on this team

1031
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: long term, but they still they're still build like this

1032
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: is this is going to be a process and maybe

1033
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: a little bit ahead of schedule. To me, I looked

1034
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: at two players that I love for them on the

1035
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. Surprise, surprise, Trayvon Henderson. The

1036
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: fact that I've mentioned him with the darn near all

1037
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: these playoff teams, I'm convinced of the fact this guy's

1038
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: going to go much higher than you think because he

1039
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: just compliments so many of these rosters. But he would

1040
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: be a great fit there. Think of like a young,

1041
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, fresh leg at Austin Eckler, what he was

1042
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: with the Chargers. You get some of that there with

1043
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Trayvon Henderson. And then the other name that I wrote

1044
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: down was Okay, think about how they use Ertz and

1045
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: what Ertz has done and been that security blanket there

1046
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: for Jaden Daniels. Now Ertz is not young. You know

1047
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: how much longer is he going to play Mason Taylor?

1048
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: To me, his comp was Zach Ertz, someone who's smart, dependable.

1049
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: They're gonna throw all those little underneath routes that he

1050
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: likes to throw, all those RPOs and different things. Mason

1051
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: Taylor catches zillion balls and play with Jaden Daniels for

1052
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: a long time. By the way, where did Mason Taylor

1053
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: go to college? Greg?

1054
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: There you go allis.

1055
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, where Jaden Daniels go to college?

1056
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So now I'm hearing this twice where you're

1057
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: throwing out Mason Taylor as a possible first round pick,

1058
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: that's something you see as a as a possibility.

1059
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Now I love him. He's going to be one of

1060
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: my top thirty two players. So people always ask me,

1061
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: which I always laugh when people say, okay, a first

1062
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: round pick or a second pick. Oh, he's a first

1063
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: I have him as a first round guy. Well, he's

1064
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: your forty fifth player, So no, you can't. Yeah, there's

1065
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: literally a numbers to this thing. There's only thirty two

1066
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: slots in the first round. So if you say he's

1067
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: you think he's a first round player in this draft

1068
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: needs to be within those top thirty two picks, which

1069
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: he will be when my final list comes out.

1070
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: One, just quick one because it popped in my head

1071
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: as you're talking about Nick Skorzen, who I haven't heard

1072
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot about. Would you rather have him or Shamar

1073
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: Stewart for talking about A and M guys.

1074
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: H Shamar Stewart was to me, the tape was more

1075
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: impressive with Shamar Stewart, just to you know how explosive

1076
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: and dynamic he was. Scorton obviously has a history of

1077
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: production that Shamar Stewart does not possess. So the greater

1078
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: conversation is probably twenty three Scort versus twenty four Shamar Stewart.

1079
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: But I have Stewart over him.

1080
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

1081
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: I want to wrap up with another team near and

1082
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: dear to your heart, another former employer of yours. Before

1083
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Speaker 1: you know, they let us get a hold of you

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Speaker 1: at NFL Network, it's the Eagles, and we could look

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Speaker 1: at like, what's their needs? Obviously they didn't have anything

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Speaker 1: that got in their way. They steamrolled to that title

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Speaker 1: those last two games. On paper, their safety nickel spot

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Speaker 1: maybe has an opening. They're probably promoting Sydney Brown to

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Speaker 1: one of the starting jobs. But you lost a couple guys.

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Speaker 1: He traded away Chauncey Gardner Johnson this offseason. And yet

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Speaker 1: that's not really where I see them investing premium draft

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Speaker 1: resources necessarily. You would think they're just going to look

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Speaker 1: at offensive line, defensive line and start replenishing for the future.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know this to be true, but

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Speaker 2: I just imagine that what happens is how he just

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Speaker 2: calls the you know, offensive line coaches, defensive line coaches.

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Speaker 2: He sits at like a table with a robe on

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Speaker 2: and just says, make your case going to take either

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Speaker 2: an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman. You tell me

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Speaker 2: why you love your guys. You tell me why you

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Speaker 2: love your guys, and then I'll decide between the two.

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Speaker 2: Who are picks going to be? To me? I looked

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Speaker 2: at it and like an institution for this team for

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Speaker 2: the last decade plus has been Brandon Graham and I

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Speaker 2: know missed the majority of the season last year, you know,

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Speaker 2: famously came back and played in the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: kind of fought through it. But I was looking at

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Speaker 2: this team and okay, who is that type of a player?

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Speaker 2: And Scorton's name is another one that came up again

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Speaker 2: in this spot and then J T. Tuamalau, you know

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Speaker 2: that maybe is a little early at thirty two again

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Speaker 2: could be a team and I think how we would

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Speaker 2: gladly take a phone call and you know, just slide

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Speaker 2: back a few spots. But those guys were Brandon Graham

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Speaker 2: types in terms of the rugged nature in which they

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Speaker 2: play off the edge to you know, to really compliment.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you Nolan Smith's going to be a star.

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Speaker 2: We saw that in the postseason he's just getting going

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Speaker 2: and still developing and still improving. But I'm I'm really

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Speaker 2: excited for his future, and I just think they look

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Speaker 2: for somebody along that defensive front to to play along

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Speaker 2: with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose Josh Sweatt and Milton Williams in free agency.

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Speaker 3: You actually could look at Edge.

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Speaker 1: I know Milton Williams is on the interior, but you

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Speaker 1: could look at Edge as a need or defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: And they're a team that thinks long term. They're able

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Speaker 1: to take a guy like Nolan Smith and almost give

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Speaker 1: him a red shirt year where he wasn't quite ready

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Speaker 1: to have a big role as a rookie, and then

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Speaker 1: he comes on as a second year player and he's

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Speaker 1: just incredible. That that's why they're they're the champs and

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Speaker 1: they're contending year after year. We did it, DJ. We

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Speaker 1: got through all fourteen nice playoff contenders and we solved

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Speaker 1: all their problems.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, this is fun. This is to

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. Look, I love doing the show,

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Speaker 2: but this is really helpful for me just in draft

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Speaker 2: preparation because we talk about the players and then you

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Speaker 2: then we you know, we have some discussions about free

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Speaker 2: agency and the teams. This is the first time as

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Speaker 2: we're getting you know, within a couple of weeks here

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Speaker 2: getting locked in of being like, okay, this this is

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Speaker 2: a direction. I can definitely see this team going. What's

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Speaker 2: their type of player they historically look at. It's fun

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Speaker 2: to start, you know, putting the puzzle together.

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Speaker 1: It is that time of year and we're we're just

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Speaker 1: getting cranked up. Only a few episodes left until the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: We have a special guest.

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Speaker 1: Mina Climes, joining us next week on forties and from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna class up the joint.

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Speaker 3: We will see you next time.