1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hut, Giants Giants Bubble, 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Give Me Some Job, part of the Giants Podcast Networks Roll. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Total Podcast, brought 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: York Giants. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: I am John Schmelk. Thank you so much for being 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: with us today. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Our Friday podcast is our interview podcast. We have Jermaine 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: Luminar Giants starting right tackle and he talks about the 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: matchup against the Browns and how the offensive line is 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: played in these first two games. 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From game 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: day celebrations to your everyday financial needs, Big Blue Fans 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: can get the most out of every moment with Citizens 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: learn more at citizens bank dot com slash Giants. All right, 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: now we're joined by Giants offensive lineman Jermaine Ilumin or Jermaine? 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: How are you man? 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: Great? And how you doing? 27 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: I'm doing great? All right, let's start here. Where's this 28 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: offensive line group heading into week three? We know it's 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: always a process trying to gain chemistry with a unit 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: like yours. 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: We have to work together. 32 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 5: Is one. 33 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Where's the group right now? 34 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: Where you at? 35 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 4: I think confidence wise, it's up there for sure. You 36 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: know we're already confident going into week three. Chemistry that's 37 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: coming along really well too. And find our identity. I 38 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: think we found that against Washington, controlling the line of scrimmage, 39 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: running the ball, sitting up the play action and drop backs. 40 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: And you know, obviously we didn't win that game, but 41 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 4: one positive that came out of that game is we 42 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: found our identity and as the offensive line, we came 43 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 4: to ground and I feel like we clicked and we're 44 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: keeping Daniel clean. Obviously we can keep the more cleaner. 45 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 4: But I think that that was a really positive game 46 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: for the offensive line. But then they need to win. 47 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: How would you define your identity? 48 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: Control the line of scrimmage? Like, whatever it takes, put 49 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: your hand in the dirt, you know, remove guys off 50 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, get down dirty, be real physical 51 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: and outphysical the gut in front of us. 52 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: What was the difference from week one to week two 53 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: in the run game, Because I feel like you got 54 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: some favorable looks in week one, you probably didn't take 55 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: advantage of it as much as you guys would have liked. 56 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: In week two, you did and you ran the ball 57 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: extremely well. What was the difference. 58 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 4: I think we got closer to, you know, just running downhill. 59 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: A lot of these teams in the NFL is hard 60 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 4: to run east and west against, so too fast, right, Yeah, 61 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: the ends are two of let nowadays, and you know, 62 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: the linebackers are really quick. You know, in the old days, 63 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: the linebackers should be like two fifty five to sixty. 64 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: Now these guys are freaking two twelve to two thirty 65 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: and they exactly And so nowadays it's more efficient, let's say, 66 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: to run downhill right at them and force them to 67 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: be uncomfortable instead of putting them in space where they 68 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: want to be. And I think that was difference between 69 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: week one and week two. I think week one, we're 70 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: just trying to do too much. In week two, we 71 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: really just settled down and got to the things that 72 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: we were really good at that we show that we're 73 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: really good at during training camp against the Lions, against 74 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: the Who's the second joint practice the Jets, you know, 75 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: just getting to you know, put in six hundred and 76 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: three hundred and getting gout to the line back and 77 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: against like in the guy the second level, and really 78 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: just giving Motor some space to work because obviously we've 79 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: seen plus two weeks to give some basically going to 80 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: make most out of it. 81 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: We saw I think in week two those double teams, right, 82 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: multiple duos on multiple plays, linesmen and tight ends, linemen 83 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: together working together, and then you kind of just give 84 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: singletary room. Do you think that's what your group is 85 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: best at? And why do you think that's the run 86 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: scheme your group is best at. 87 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: Just best at in the run game or as a 88 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: whole in the run game. Yeah, I think that we 89 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: have a bunch of powerful guards and the tackles obviously, 90 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: you know, I mean atf like, we're pretty damn athletic, 91 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: but we're also real powerful, so so you know, getting 92 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: to that explosion that we've been blessed with and they 93 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: have less them to really get off the ball and 94 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: put a bunch of weight into a defender who doesn't 95 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: want that weight on him, that would rather just try 96 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: to shed a block and make a tackle on I mean, 97 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: if you look around the league, there's a good amount 98 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: of side zone, but really it's running in between the 99 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: taxings to the outside the tackles, and I think that's 100 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: become a bigger thing nowadays. 101 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: When fans watch you play ball and your group play ball, 102 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: what's the tell tell sign for you that this is 103 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: a Carmen Brisillo coached offensive line group. What shows you 104 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: that what he's teaching you is getting through to the group. 105 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: I would say the way we execute and the way 106 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: we limit mental errors. One big thing on the offensive 107 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: line is you can't have them any if any mental errors, 108 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: because if you do, that can change a game. You know, 109 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: if you forget to block the d tackle or you 110 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: don't block him how you're supposed to and he breaks 111 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: through the line of scrimmas tackle running back in the 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: backfield and creates a fumble, then you know that offense 113 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: is in prime position to get a score. And then 114 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: now you're down here more or now you're down when 115 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: you had the ball and you know you were charging in. 116 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: It completely changes the momentum of the game. So I 117 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: think that the way we execute our blocks out there, 118 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: the physicality that we're trying to show on Sundays, which 119 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 4: hopefully we start show even more of that more games 120 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: we play together, and just the effort week give. If 121 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: you really wish to tape a lot of guys, especially 122 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 4: John Michael, they're sprinting to the ball off every single play, 123 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: and you know, obviously there's a time and a place 124 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: for that. But I think the effort that this offensive 125 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: line gives is really contiguous for the entire offense. And 126 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: the more effort week give and the more we execute 127 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: our blocks, I think that the offense will feed off 128 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: that and you know, the energy will grow. 129 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: What do you like best about your group's past protection 130 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: so far? 131 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: I would say that we have a pretty damn good 132 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: bus blocking unit, and obviously it's going to be put 133 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: to the test against this defensive line we're about to 134 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: go against. But I think everyone really cares about keeping 135 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: Daniel clean, and we see how it's important it is 136 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: to keep building his confidence because obviously he's coming up 137 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: a ac out there, and you know you've been behind 138 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: the offensive line where obviously everyone knows what happened last year. 139 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: So for us, it's about building his confidence and building 140 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: his trust in us that we're going to go out 141 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 4: there and leave it on the line and go for war, 142 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: like go to war for him and keep on that 143 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: confidence to the point where he can just go out 144 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: there and play free and just make all the throws 145 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: we know he's capable of making, and you know, breaking 146 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: out the pocket when he needs to under scramble on 147 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: and just being him because I think he's a great 148 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: player and we all do, and that's why we want 149 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: to go out there every single week and protect him 150 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: as much as we can. 151 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: There's one fall up on the pass pro in the past, 152 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, six seven years. No matter who's been 153 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: on the line, they've had trouble picking up twist and stunts. 154 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: And you can break down some of the stuff on 155 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: like some of the analytics websites now and you guys 156 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: are top ten in terms of pressure rate allowed versus 157 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: twist and stunts this year. You've done a really nice job. 158 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: What's the key for your group to make that improvement 159 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: against those types of pressures and movements by the opposing 160 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: defensive lines. 161 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: So when it comes to games, a lot of times 162 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 4: the defense tries to take advantage of a certain matchup 163 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: and sometimes they like to put lighter guys up at 164 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: de tackle instead of putting the traditional three hundred pound 165 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: plus guys to create more speed, to create more gaps 166 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: and penetrate quicker. Sure, and I think that our unit 167 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: there's a really good job of noticing that. And like 168 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: I said, are inside three are smartest. Hell, I will 169 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: put them up against anyone when it comes to it. 170 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: You know, just the knowledge of football, and so they 171 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: can tell when something's about to happen. And also we 172 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: all watch a bunch of film together, so there's certain 173 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: keys and certain looks that you can tell when it's 174 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: twisted about to cappen on when it's about to come. 175 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: So opproparation I think is really important when it comes 176 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: to picking up those stunts. But then also just like 177 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: I said, as much like we really care about protecting Daniel, 178 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: and we know that a lot of teams aren't structured 179 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: to go five and five, and in order to create pressure, 180 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: they need to you know, run those games to get 181 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: guys into space and single what people who they want 182 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: to single up. So, like I said, we watch a 183 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: ton of film. Calm does a great job of don't 184 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: giving us the looks where we know to expect in 185 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: a game. And obviously I've been with Calm for five years, 186 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: so I know how Calm, how he rolls, and you 187 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: know his way in his style of coaching. And so 188 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: when I go out there on Sundays, I can tell, Okay, 189 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: it's third down, third and ten thirty, eleven thirty and 190 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: six thirty seven. Okay, there in this front, these two 191 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: these detackles alone like this or Miles is inside or 192 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: you know, Zadarius is inside. Now they have another dn outside. Okay, 193 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: expect games. And so it's just a little things like 194 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: that that you learn through Calm, but then also just 195 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: being around a bunch of older guys and just really 196 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: caring about the game. 197 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 6: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 198 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 6: So go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country. 199 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 6: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 200 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 6: you ready for all that life brings? 201 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the opponent you mentioned. This 202 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: is a really good defensive line. And it starts with 203 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. Wet's see what the injury report says. But Miles, 204 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: he's gonna try to he's playing pay You've been on 205 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: teams that have played Miles Garrett three different times, but 206 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: we just spoke before the interview, never lined up against 207 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: him in a game. I'm sure you're gonna have that 208 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: chance this week, no question about it. So when you've 209 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: studied him and you've looked at him on tape, you've 210 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: been at this a long time, what makes him one 211 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: of one of one? What makes him special? 212 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: The man was built in a lab. He was building 213 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: a lab. I said it when I went to college 214 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: for them. I've been watching him for eight years now 215 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL. You know obviously he's we're friends, but 216 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: I know that the effort he gives is ridiculous. Like 217 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: I was watching film against him when he's playing the Jags, 218 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: and there's one player that really stood out. Trevor Lawrence 219 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: escaped the pressure was running downfield from maybe like a 220 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: forty yard game and you're looking around. The only man 221 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: chasing him down was Miles And that man started maybe 222 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: fifteen twenty years behind him, and by the end of 223 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: the play was right on his hip and you know, 224 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: if Trev didn' run out of bounds, Miles was going 225 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: to smoke him from behind. So the effort he gives, 226 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: but then also, like I said, the ability and talent 227 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: he's been blessed with and his knowledge of the game. 228 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: But then also he knows how to use his ability 229 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: and his talent. He's one of the biggest teams in 230 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: the NFL, but he's also one of the most agile, 231 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: one of the most athletic, one of the most flexible. 232 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: And it's kind of like you're a Madden and his 233 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: creative player create the ideal player that's going to dominate 234 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: in the game, and that's Miles. And so you know 235 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: he's one of the best players at his position, but 236 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: he's also earned the right to be caught that because 237 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: of the work and the effort he's given on every 238 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: single Sunday. 239 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you hit what stands out to me. 240 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: You know, you guys like Michael Parsons is great dj 241 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: WAT great players. They're twenty and fifty pounds. Miles Garrett 242 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: is two hundred and seventy plus pounds. Now, when you 243 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: have a bigger defensive end that also again, has the agility, 244 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: the ben the athleticism. How does that put an offensive 245 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: tackle you in the buy and when that guy is 246 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: also to seventy. 247 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: I think you have to be able to trust your 248 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 4: technique and then also you have to watch a ton 249 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: of film. You can't go into that game second guessing anything. 250 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: You have to be confident, you have to be determined, 251 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: you have to be disciplined, but then you also just 252 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 4: have to be hungry, especially going against a guy like that. 253 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: I feel like Monday is when you choose what type 254 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: of week is going to be for you and what 255 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: type of game is going to be. You either choose 256 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out there and give him hell, and 257 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: you know it may not go my way sometimes, but 258 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna comeing out that game and I'm gonna say 259 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 4: I give it everything I got and I went out 260 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: there and did what I need to do to help 261 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: this team win. Or you can accept that he is 262 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: a beast and he's an animal and be like, damn, 263 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a rough He's going to be a 264 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 4: rough Sunday and this offensive line, me and at have 265 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: chose to go out there and you know we're gonna 266 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: ball and I don't know how it's going. I don't 267 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: know how the game is going to go, but I 268 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: can tell you this offensive line is going to give 269 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: everything we have to make sure that we come out 270 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: that stayed hum with a W. And like I said, 271 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: it's hard to win every single Sunday, like winning in 272 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: the NFL is hard. But this offensive line is determined, 273 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: and I know their defensive line determined, So it's gonna 274 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: be a great matchup. 275 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: You mentioned the rest of the defensive line. They get 276 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: overshadowed a little bit. But he has some really good 277 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: players there. 278 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he's a former All Pro and you know, 279 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: if you watch him on tape, you can see that 280 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: he's having fun playing football again. And I was actually 281 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: in Baltimore with him before he went to Green Bay, 282 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: before he went to Minnesota, and now he's in Cleveland, 283 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 4: So I know what type of player he is in 284 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: the effort he gives. And you know, you have Miles 285 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: on one side Darius on the other side. That's a 286 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: that's a pretty deadly duo. And so a lot of 287 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: people will make the mistake of give him Miles all 288 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: the attention and leaving Zadarius alone. And you can't do that. 289 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: You have to give him just as much attention as 290 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: Miles because obviously Miles is blessed with all the skill 291 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: and ability, but so is Darius. And it doesn't matter 292 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: what you think. Them two are two of the best 293 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: teams in the NFL, and that's why we're gonna play 294 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: them like that. 295 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: How does it help a defensive end to get out 296 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: in that wide nine formation like Jim Schwartz likes to 297 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: use up there. 298 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: The thing with the wide nine is as a tackle, 299 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: you would rather block a five technique who is somewhat 300 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: in front of you, so you're not to set a 301 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: wide nine. Is kind of like Khalil Mack and I 302 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: got to play against him the plus three years. He 303 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: lines up in those wide nines and it forces you 304 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: to get out to him. But then if you don't 305 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 4: get out to him quicker than he's getting off the bone, 306 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: then he's gonna be able to catch you in a 307 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: spot where you're unbalanced and he's gonna be able to 308 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: clap you right into the quarterback shape. And I say 309 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: that because it happened to me against Khalil, And you know, if. 310 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: You are the one by the way, it's happened to me. 311 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 4: Against him, And I mean I've played him six times 312 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: in the plus three years and I've probably locked over 313 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: maybe one hundred snaps against him, and so I know 314 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: that blocking neck technique is hard at help. But that's 315 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: all so wat tackles get paid what they do to 316 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: go out there, and you know, give everything they got 317 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: to execute that block. But it can affect you mentally 318 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: and physically because you don't want to get caught in 319 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: the spot where you're too inside out or you're too 320 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: outside in and you give up the inside and he 321 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: freaking just runs by you. But then also you can't 322 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: be unbalanced, and it's just one of those things that 323 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: it's not gonna happen all the time. But depending on 324 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: the alignment of the tight end and the formation we're in, 325 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: we're probably going to get a couple of wide nines 326 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: with him as there. So me and Ati been working 327 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: that all week, but it's hard to replicate the speed 328 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: and the strength that Miles and there is going to 329 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: have in that game. But you know, I believe in 330 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: myself and I believe in. 331 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: At final question the other side of that, can you 332 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: can catching them in? Then y nine sometimes help you 333 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: guys create some natural angles and leverage in the run 334 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: game since it's not as compacted in there. 335 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: I think that the one thing with white nines is 336 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: it's a double edged sword and it can be helpful 337 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: for the dns, but it can also be a curse 338 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: where if we know they're in a wide nine, we 339 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: can scheme up a play where you know, maybe it's 340 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: a run plan we take him out to play, or 341 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: maybe we just run a reverse and it's going away 342 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: from Miles or it's going away from his days. So 343 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: I think that if you get them, if you get 344 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: a team in a long third and long distance down, 345 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: then that can you know, affect the tackles. But like 346 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: I said, or just comes down to how the tackle 347 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: is going to play that block and how determined he 348 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: is to get out there and the speed he uses 349 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: to get out there. And you know, this week we're 350 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: in Cleveland, so we're using silent counts, so that's added 351 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: on to you know, the pressure we're getting out there. 352 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: But like I said, it's going to be a fun 353 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: game and me and at are ready for the challenge. 354 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: Okay with to see it, Jermain, good stuff, No, sir, 355 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: you love turf. 356 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 6: You're good at it, so you start a turf fizz 357 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 6: business grows, your savings grow, become the most celebrated name 358 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 6: in turf. 359 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: Are you ready for. 360 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,239 Speaker 5: All that life rings? 361 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: That's Giants right tackle Jermaine and lumin or. 362 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: The Giants Total podcast is brought to you by Citizens, 363 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: the official bank of the New York Giants. 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Coach, 373 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 7: you know this is a rabid fan base, passionate. Just 374 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 7: talk a little bit about playing in this environment as 375 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns and Giants square off this afternoon. 376 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, loud stadium. Like you said, passionate fan base. They 377 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 8: love their Browns, and it's a difficult place to play, 378 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 8: particularly when you get into certain areas of the field. 379 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: So we've got to do a good job with our communication. 380 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 7: Well, one of the reasons why it's a difficult place 381 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: to play is because they got some really good players 382 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 7: on the defensive side of the ball, led by Miles Garrett. 383 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 7: When you take a look at this defense and Jim 384 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 7: Schwartz's sort of game plan here, what are some of 385 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 7: the things that kind of jump out off the page 386 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 7: at when you look at them and study them, Well, 387 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 7: it starts with their front Obviously, Garrett is a phenomenal player. 388 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 7: They do a good job of playing the run as 389 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 7: they get to the quarterback, and then they played tight 390 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 7: coverage in the back end and you know, try to 391 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: give you different looks. 392 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 8: To force turnovers. So you know, Schwartz have been doing 393 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 8: it for a long time. He's he's an expert in 394 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 8: his system, and those guys have played well. So you know, 395 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 8: with Ward, with Garrett, with Zadarius, you know, you got 396 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 8: a lot of good football players. You know, you take 397 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 8: a look at their results, right, I mean they lost 398 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 8: last week in Jacksonville. They won last week in Jacksonville, 399 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 8: A week earlier they lost at home against the Cowboys. 400 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 8: But from a defensive standpoint, you know, for two weeks 401 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 8: they've played pretty good. I mean, they had a punt 402 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 8: return for a touchdown that the Cowboys recorded, and you know, 403 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 8: the numbers weren't all that great offensively for Dallas. So 404 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 8: this is a team that despite the numbers, is playing 405 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 8: a little bit better than maybe it looks at one 406 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 8: in one, right, Yeah, this is the top defense, you know, 407 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 8: one of the top defenses in the league. Of how 408 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 8: they play. You know that game, your first game you 409 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 8: talk about there was some turnovers on the offensive side 410 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 8: of the football, and then again the punt return that 411 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 8: that Turpin had. So you know, they had a safety 412 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 8: last week against Jacksonville to close it out. Jacksonville didn't 413 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 8: score many points. You know, this is a good team 414 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 8: and you know on the offensive side of the ball, 415 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 8: they want to control the game. They start out the 416 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 8: game against Jacksonville, you know, seventeen plays drive it down. 417 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 8: They only had three drives in the first half. Their 418 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 8: long possession drives effective running the football, controlling the line 419 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 8: of scrimmage, letting the defense rest, getting a little bit 420 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 8: of a lead and then be able to rush the passer. 421 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 5: Let's go to the other side of the football. Deshaun Watson. 422 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 7: What makes him still dangerous when you look at him 423 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 7: and say, Okay, the numbers and the wins and losses 424 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 7: aren't necessarily there, but this guy can still hurt you. 425 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he can throw the ball and then 426 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 8: he can use his legs to hurt you. You know, 427 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 8: he's good in the empty game, the rpo game. They 428 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 8: run a variety of schemes. Offensively, I think it really 429 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 8: starts with the running game and you know, staying on 430 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 8: schedule so that you know they can, you know, operate 431 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 8: any type of offense they want to operate against the defense. 432 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 8: And you know he's seen about every defense. You can 433 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 8: see he's strong in the pocket, he can use his legs, 434 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 8: and he can make all the throws. 435 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: Let's talk about your team here. 436 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 7: Last week obviously disappointing loss against the Commanders, but there's 437 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 7: a lot of things if you just peel the uh, 438 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 7: you know, the layers off the onion that you look 439 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 7: at what happened last week, and there's a lot of 440 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 7: things to be positive about. Let's start offensively, coach, with 441 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 7: the way you guys were able to move the football 442 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 7: and something to build upon coming into this week. 443 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought there were there were a lot of 444 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 8: positive things, and you know, you got to keep your 445 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 8: mind right when you you don't get the results that 446 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 8: you want. But third down was was good, red zone 447 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 8: was good, controlling the line of scrimmage effective in the 448 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 8: passing game. You know, we only had the ball for 449 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 8: twenty two minutes, so you know, we got to do 450 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 8: a good job of making sure we maintain possession and 451 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 8: then once we get down there, you know, the two 452 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 8: point plays were We're critical in that game, and obviously 453 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 8: that fourth down, but you know, good consistency, communication, improvement, 454 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 8: significant improvement from week one. But new challenge this week, 455 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 8: and we're gonna have to do a good job. 456 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: Coach your offensive line. 457 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 7: Obviously, this configuration, because of injury during training camp, didn't 458 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 7: get as many reps as you probably would have liked. 459 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 7: But do you see a genling coming together a little 460 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 7: bit here as far as communication and all those other things. Yeah, 461 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 7: And I think it, like I've said earlier, I think 462 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 7: it helps when you have veterans that have done it 463 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 7: in this league. They're you know, they're they're in the 464 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 7: meeting rooms a lot. They're they're meeting extra they're communicating 465 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 7: with the quarterbacks. You know, the quarterbacks and the line 466 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 7: meet extra quarterbacks and the running backs and the line. 467 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 7: You know, they do a good job of communicating in 468 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 7: the classroom and on the field. 469 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 8: So again, it's helpful when you have guys like running 470 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 8: and Van Rowten an illuminor then obviously at that played 471 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 8: for a long time. You know, in terms of the 472 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 8: communication process. 473 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 7: Let's go to the defensive side of the ball, coach, 474 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 7: because obviously not stops that you're looking for last week 475 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 7: and some missed opportunities with interceptions or getting off the 476 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 7: field and the penalty was being called. 477 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 5: As you studied it this week. 478 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 7: Is it a situation where maybe guys are trying to 479 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 7: do too much which creates issues as far as being 480 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 7: able to get stops and just not funneling in on 481 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 7: their specific job. 482 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 483 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 8: Well, again, I was encouraged by some things, particularly the 484 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 8: red zone defense like I've talked about, but you know, 485 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 8: it really comes down to fundamentals, you know, taking good angles, tackling, 486 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 8: getting the ball carrier down, playing inside leverage when we're 487 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 8: supposed to play in side leverage, making sure that we're 488 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 8: doing all the details right, The efforts good, you know, 489 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 8: and again to be able to stop a team that 490 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 8: many times in red zone is a hard thing doing 491 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 8: this league. But you know, getting off the field on 492 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 8: third down and making sure that we're creating some negative 493 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 8: plays and turnovers. That's my point. 494 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 7: Emphasis coach obviously, you know, trying to get that first 495 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 7: one of the season. You got a short week as well. 496 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 7: Is there any kind of special messaging you give to 497 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 7: your team when you have, you know, two games lined 498 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 7: up over a four day span. 499 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 8: No, it's all about Cleveland. Everything we got into it 500 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 8: like it like there is each week. You know, everybody 501 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 8: puts so much work and effort into into the preparation 502 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 8: leading up to a game, and you know you give 503 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 8: everything you got, you know, mentally, physically, you leave it 504 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 8: all out on the field, and you know you do 505 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 8: everything you can do to try to get the results 506 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 8: that you want. 507 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 7: All right, Coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes. Best 508 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 7: of luck this safternoon against the Browns. 509 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 8: Thanks Pop. 510 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: That's head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. We thank 511 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: him for joining us on the Giants Little Podcast. Thank 512 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: you to Jermaine ilumin Or as well, who always is 513 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: excellent to talk to. A lot of fun talking to 514 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: Jermaine with that big matchup against Miles Garrett coming your 515 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: way on Sunday, assuming Garrett plays, he was he didn't 516 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: us practice this week. 517 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: A bit, so we'll have to keep an eye on that. 518 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us in the Giants Total Podcast, 519 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the 520 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: New York Giants. I am John SCHMANK. Thanks to Bob, Coach, Dabs, 521 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: and Jermaine. We'll see you next time. Enjoy the game 522 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: on Sunday. Pregame on the fan here locally in New 523 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: York at eleven am on our network. At noon, you're 524 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: gonna go stream all the action on wfan dot com. 525 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: We'll see then,