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Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten ber He's Gonna score touchdown,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports. Slam into the

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Speaker 2: Here we go one hand and catch it a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch and the.

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Speaker 4: Words of Zach Pascal. It all starts now. Of course,

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Speaker 4: he was not referring to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. He was talking about the starts

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Speaker 4: of OTAs organized team activities. It is voluntary, so that

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Speaker 4: means while we did not see Paul Calvic or ky

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Speaker 4: But I'll say this well attended by just about every

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Speaker 4: single Arizona Cardinals player. And with that's yes, it does

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Speaker 4: all start now because KVB. I know this is an

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Speaker 4: important offseason for a lot of players, a lot of

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Speaker 4: new faces, not a returning faces with a brand new

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Speaker 4: coaching step. But you've been very adamant about the importance

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Speaker 4: of offseason work. In phase three, when you've got to

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Speaker 4: go offense versus defense, that's when the work really starts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's vital, you know, if you're waiting

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Speaker 5: as a team to put in your playbook to assess players,

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Speaker 5: to start to get into some sort of game plan,

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Speaker 5: if you're waiting til training campus too late and you're behind.

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Speaker 5: Look the NFL, you know, not only we've seen it

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Speaker 5: the last couple of months, it's not only a year

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Speaker 5: round calendar for gms for coaches, it's year round for players.

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Speaker 5: Like you have to work at your craft and you

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Speaker 5: need to at this point to start moving forward, to

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Speaker 5: take that next step. You need to work at your

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Speaker 5: craft with your teammates and with a scheme in mind,

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Speaker 5: and with the techniques that your coaches want you to

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Speaker 5: use in order to start making progress. And you don't

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Speaker 5: want to show up with a blank slate at training camp.

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Speaker 6: You want to have a lot of it in place.

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Speaker 5: You want to have a lot of your install done,

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Speaker 5: and you want to pick up from there.

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Speaker 3: I'll see this, Paul.

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Speaker 4: There's been good attendance this entire offseason, even going back

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Speaker 4: to that voluntary veteran mini camp leading into the draft,

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Speaker 4: because as a first time, first year head coach, you

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Speaker 4: get that extra week's worth of work and there are

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Speaker 7: You might have a contract, but you don't have equity

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Speaker 7: built up with this coaching staff, so it might be

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Speaker 7: voluntary in name only. In reality, yes, it's in your

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Speaker 7: as Jonathan Gannon himself said, and it might be the

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Speaker 7: mantra you start with this offseason quote, everything is a competition.

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Speaker 3: So there were takeaways.

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Speaker 7: I was carrying the Cardinals color analysts through his own

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Speaker 7: four hour radio show, so I didn't see it. I

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Speaker 7: live vicariously through your reports and talking to other people.

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Speaker 7: But there were certainly significant developments like oh, Cole McCoy

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Speaker 7: working with the DBS. That was another big takeaway, and

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Speaker 7: Zam and Collin's still with the edge rushers.

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Speaker 4: I'm not quite ready to put him in that position group,

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Speaker 4: but we will talk about the outside linebackers as we

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Speaker 4: move on. Here on the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented

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Speaker 4: by Sea Geek Your Ticket to Great Seats, we bring

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Speaker 4: up Jonathan Gannon. Let's hear from JG on what they

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Speaker 4: got that first practice.

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Speaker 8: Of OTAs technique and fundamentals and finally some decisions and actions.

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Speaker 8: So get the up against each other and play some football.

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Speaker 8: So good to compete a little bit and get on

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Speaker 8: the grass. Go offense, first, defense, special teams. But I

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Speaker 4: We've heard him talk about talking about Gann and Paul

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Speaker 4: about well let's wait until we get them on the grass. Well,

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Speaker 7: You know, we talked to DJ Humphreys yesterday, We talked

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Speaker 3: So I think that has everyone's attention.

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Speaker 7: Right, And look, I think the challenge with any new

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Speaker 7: Can they get And I think if you read between

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Speaker 7: to streamline things. Maybe there's a little too much on

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Speaker 7: For example, if indeed the Cardinals quarterbacks contingent, if they're

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Speaker 7: are already talking about how that's to their advantage because it

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Speaker 7: how much of that playbook has been installed. Here's the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we give them a lot, and there's a natural

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Speaker 8: teaching progression to all of that, and we'd like to

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Speaker 4: You like that, Kyle, where you're giving it all at

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Speaker 4: end you bring it all together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I like it.

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Speaker 5: You know, Let's let's see how much these players can absorb.

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Speaker 5: Let's see how much how well they can pick it up.

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Speaker 5: Let's see what works if we're going to experiment, let's

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Speaker 5: experiment now with players in different positions, with different techniques,

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Speaker 6: You're gonna have bus. You know.

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Speaker 5: The great thing again about football is eleven guys have

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: There are two types of reps. There's the mental reps

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're unable to get those physical reps, you've

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Speaker 5: got to do exactly what Kyler Murray is doing. He

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's again, there's nothing quite like being

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Speaker 5: I've suffered in as many injuries as anybody and sat

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Speaker 7: What happens when you're a third string quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 7: That's basically Kyler's life right now. He's not accustomed to

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Speaker 7: I would go here with it, based on this coverage,

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Speaker 7: that's where Kyler is gonna have to be mentally sharp.

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Speaker 4: Also, stand very close to the offensive coordinator, Drew Petsing

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Speaker 4: which is what Kyler was doing a lot on Monday now,

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Speaker 4: not getting either physical or mental reps within the building.

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Speaker 8: Voodoo will show up when he wants to show up,

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Speaker 8: you know, and he's been awesome. He kind of wears

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Speaker 4: No concern for me on Buddha Baker and whether or

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Speaker 4: not he'll be ready to go mandatory mini camp training

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Speaker 4: camp week one. DeAndre Hopkins his future, well, we know

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Speaker 4: that he is in Toronto. He made that Claire appearing

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not worried about how He's played a long time,

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Speaker 6: Where were you?

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Speaker 5: So your voice doesn't matter, and look, I agree with you,

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Speaker 5: they're missing that example. They're missing the guy out there

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Speaker 5: But for the team to get better, you need your leaders,

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see, we'll see exactly where this is tracking.

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Speaker 7: But until then, I don't expect to see DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 9: Who has that look in their eye of no back down?

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Speaker 9: You know that's the dust part. I think I'm looking

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Speaker 9: I want a bunch of swingers. So I mean that

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Speaker 4: We do what you met, DJ, as we say, welcome

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Speaker 4: Geek Your ticket the Great seats DJ Humphreys. Good to

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Speaker 4: not heard much from DJ Humphreys in a long time, Paul,

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Speaker 4: he is he is your franchise left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Well I told him already.

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Speaker 7: Paris Johnson Junior reminds me of DJ Umfries. The personality,

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Speaker 7: He's a totally different individual. Kyle Vannibosch might know something

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Speaker 7: I don't know at what point you flipped the switch

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Speaker 7: the moment he just walks out on that Cardinal's sideline,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he exemplifies with Jonathan Gannon was talking about his

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Speaker 4: Not quite ready to be a part of that process

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Speaker 9: Me and Drew became friends the first day we met

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna go out there. I'm gonna block the end

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Speaker 7: Because every time you hear DJ Humprees talk about his

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Speaker 5: It's it's he makes it sound simpler than it is,

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Speaker 4: Well, this was the twenty second best rush defense rush

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Speaker 7: is going definitely going to be a signature element of

437
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Speaker 7: this Cardinals offense.

438
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Speaker 4: Well do they have enough on that offensive line to

439
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Speaker 4: run the ball with DJ Humphreys, Well, Hernandez Kelvin Beach

440
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Speaker 4: and what do you do at the center position. Paris

441
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Speaker 4: Johnson Junior going to be your right tackle, right guard?

442
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Speaker 4: Is he playing on the left side? Overall that offensive

443
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Speaker 4: line group your DJ Humphreys on with Wolf and Luke

444
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Speaker 4: on Monday.

445
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Speaker 9: We got a good group of guys that's just like

446
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Speaker 9: great dudes that want to play football. So it's easy

447
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 9: to mingle with the group. He's easy to interject young

448
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Speaker 9: office and linemen into the room and it be fun.

449
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Speaker 9: I think the thing where I come in is kind

450
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Speaker 9: of like get in the room to understand like the

451
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Speaker 9: dynamics of the NFL. Yeah, you know, getting the young

452
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Speaker 9: players to understand that like these other young guys is

453
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Speaker 9: coming in, you don't need to look at them as

454
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Speaker 9: a threat, like we're playing football. You need to focus

455
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Speaker 9: on doing the being the best version of yourself so

456
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Speaker 9: you can do what you need to do when the

457
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Speaker 9: evaluation times come around.

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Speaker 4: Interesting comments from Humphreys because he alluded to when he

459
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Speaker 4: first came in Paul that he didn't have that warm

460
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Speaker 4: reception as a first year player. Now is him as

461
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Speaker 4: a veteran in that room, which I still think he

462
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Speaker 4: is young, but yeah, he is a veteran in that

463
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Speaker 4: room as far as longest tenured Arizona Cardinal period. That

464
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Speaker 4: means a lot because now like if Paris Johnson Junior

465
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Speaker 4: comes in and there's a place at the table for you.

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Speaker 7: He mentioned at one point during the interview that he

467
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Speaker 7: had to work hard to get the word bust off

468
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Speaker 7: his name because he didn't play as a rookie. In fact,

469
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Speaker 7: he got a very unfortunate moniker from the head coach,

470
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Speaker 7: Bruce Arians, and d J. Humphreys, in hindsight, has said

471
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Speaker 7: repeatedly he didn't really see it as a motivator when

472
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Speaker 7: he was nicknamed knee deep. He thought it was an insult.

473
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Speaker 7: He took that personally. And so you know, I think

474
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Speaker 7: it's going to be a vastly different situation with Paris

475
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Speaker 7: Johnson Jr. I do expect him to play. I do

476
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Speaker 7: expect him to be a starter on Week one at Washington.

477
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Speaker 7: Now maybe not.

478
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Speaker 3: We'll see.

479
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Speaker 7: I'm certainly not underestimating the beginning of the schedule. In fact,

480
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Speaker 7: I asked d J. Humphries about that. One of my

481
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Speaker 7: big takeaways about the first four games as man the

482
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Speaker 7: Cardinals old line better be ready to ball, and DJ

483
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 7: nodded his head and he said, half jokingly, Man, did

484
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Speaker 7: we choose somebody off at the league office, like, you know,

485
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Speaker 7: what are they doing to us when you were coming

486
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Speaker 7: out against the Commanders and the Giants and the Cowboys

487
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Speaker 7: and the forty nine ers right out of the gate.

488
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Speaker 7: I mean, those are four of the toughest defensive fronts

489
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Speaker 7: you're gonna see in the league.

490
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Speaker 4: Humphrey's talking about that welcoming approach. Kyle goes back to

491
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Speaker 4: whether it was general manager Monty austin Ford at his

492
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Speaker 4: introductory press conference saying no egos, We're gonna leave our

493
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Speaker 4: egos at the door. Jonathan Gannon always preaching team first,

494
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Speaker 4: well individuals. Yeah, you want those stats, you want that

495
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Speaker 4: big money, but that all comes if you're winning together

496
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Speaker 4: as a team on Sundays.

497
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you need at every position group, you need

498
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Speaker 5: that guy that is willing to lead and take young

499
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Speaker 5: players under their wing. I mean, if I can go

500
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Speaker 5: back to my rookie year, I was raw and I

501
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 5: needed to develop, and I remember going to a vet

502
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Speaker 5: and asking him a question and he looked at me

503
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Speaker 5: in the eye and he said, why would I help you.

504
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Speaker 6: You're trying to take my job. And that is losing.

505
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Speaker 5: Football Like that is a horrible culture that is the

506
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Speaker 5: You know, the thing I like about the makeup of

507
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Speaker 5: this Cardinals team is it feels like there is enough leaders.

508
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Speaker 5: There is enough people that are sick of losing, that

509
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: are sick of the way the things have been done.

510
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Speaker 5: They're willing to put in the work. They're willing to

511
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Speaker 5: stay after practice, They're willing to spend extra time in

512
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Speaker 5: the meeting room with young players because they understand how

513
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Speaker 5: vitally important it will be to develop these players because we're.

514
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Speaker 6: Going to need them.

515
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's we're not the Philadelphia Eagles, We're not

516
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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs, where we are just abundant in

517
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Speaker 5: talent and game breaking type players. But the great thing

518
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Speaker 5: about football is if you have guys with the right mentality,

519
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 5: you have guys with the right approach, guys that really

520
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 5: dive into the game plan and prepare themselves, anybody can

521
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Speaker 5: beat anybody on a Sunday. And if you're well coached,

522
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Speaker 5: if you're invested, if it's important to you, and you're

523
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Speaker 5: not making the same mistakes over and over, then you

524
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Speaker 5: can win games and you can be successful next season.

525
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Speaker 5: And it seems like I know this team has enough

526
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Speaker 5: of those guys and to hear that from DJ Humphries

527
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Speaker 5: about how he doesn't want to be the way it

528
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Speaker 5: was when he came in and he wants to help

529
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Speaker 5: these younger players because he knows that will help the

530
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Speaker 5: team ultimately win games.

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Speaker 4: More from DJ the advice that he plans to give

532
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Speaker 4: and is giving young offensive tackle offensive lineman Paris Johnson Jr.

533
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Speaker 9: You're a first round draft pick, bo, I'm gonna tell

534
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Speaker 9: you something about being a first rounder. If you jump

535
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Speaker 9: out hot and you ball, you put yourself in a

536
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Speaker 9: position to have a career that is laid out for you.

537
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Speaker 9: This is what I want to see for you. I said,

538
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Speaker 9: But you don't know how hard it was for me

539
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Speaker 9: to work to get that bust off my name, and

540
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Speaker 9: you gotta really work hard to get that off of you.

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Speaker 6: I said.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you, if you can just do that, focus

543
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Speaker 9: on having your consistency as a young player, that's all

544
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 9: you're gonna need is gonna carry you so far because

545
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Speaker 9: all the other tools you have, you just need to

546
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Speaker 9: be make sure you're being consistent in every phase.

547
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Speaker 4: Again, having that veteran in that room, and it certainly

548
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Speaker 4: sounds like DJ is gonna put his arm around Paris

549
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Speaker 4: and say, hey, don't do what I did, or let

550
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Speaker 4: me give you an environment in which you can learn

551
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Speaker 4: and flourish as opposed to press. Maybe his own personal

552
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Speaker 4: experience as a rookie maturity.

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Speaker 7: DJ said it in hindsight the year after his rookie

554
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Speaker 7: year that he needed to mature, And I think Paris

555
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Speaker 7: Johnson Junior just comes in a more polished product, a

556
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 7: similar skill set, similar future. He can definitely be the

557
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Speaker 7: guy who's gonna get that big eight figure contract, you know,

558
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Speaker 7: for the rest of his career, like a DJ Humphries.

559
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Speaker 7: But look to me, there's no reason why d J

560
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Speaker 7: Humpfries can't be your left tackle the next three or

561
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Speaker 7: four years, and Paris Johnson Junior couldn't.

562
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Speaker 3: Be your right tackle.

563
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Speaker 7: I had this out with Wolf. I'm like, what keeps

564
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Speaker 7: Paris Johnson Junior from being the next Tristan Wurfs being

565
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Speaker 7: an All Pro right tackle in today's league that's almost

566
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Speaker 7: as valuable as a left tackle, considering the way a

567
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Speaker 7: lot of these defensive edge ends and these edge rushers

568
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Speaker 7: are are flip flopping either side, so we'll see. I'm

569
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Speaker 7: very curious. There's a lot of speculation right now Paris

570
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Speaker 7: Johnson Junior is starting anywhere from left guard to right

571
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Speaker 7: guard to right tackle. Well, when you talk about those

572
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Speaker 7: edge roshers though, Kyle, Its yeah, you're detecting the quarterbacks

573
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 7: blind side. But the mobility and the athleticism of quarterbacks

574
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Speaker 7: these days, I don't know if there really is a

575
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Speaker 7: blind side anymore with these quarterbacks.

576
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Speaker 6: No, that's true, and that's what Paris Johnson Jr.

577
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Speaker 5: His athletic ability, his ability to recover and stay with

578
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Speaker 5: these elite athletes, it'll be vital to this offense because

579
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Speaker 5: what we know is Kyler Murray is so dangerous with

580
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Speaker 5: the football in his hands. When he gets back out

581
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Speaker 5: on that field. You've just got to stay with your man.

582
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Speaker 5: You don't even necessarily have to dominate him. You just

583
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 5: got to stay in front of him and let Kyler

584
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Speaker 5: give him time and if he wants to take off

585
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Speaker 5: with his legs, just stay on your man.

586
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Speaker 4: Have yet to see where this offensive line together, what

587
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Speaker 4: it might look like. And I'll say it again, Paul,

588
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: I've said it repeatedly. Paris Johnson Jr. Continues to line

589
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Speaker 4: up right of whoever he's next to take that for

590
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Speaker 4: what it is. Believe your eyes, this is the Arizona

591
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Speaker 4: Cardinals Radio.

592
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Speaker 2: Network snapped the Smith drops back to throw, pressure in

593
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Speaker 2: his face. He's in trouble and he goes down. He

594
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Speaker 2: sacked back at the twenty one yard line. Cam Thomas,

595
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Speaker 2: the rookie is there for the Cardinals to make the play.

596
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: First career sack for Cam Thomas. Herbert back to throw

597
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Speaker 2: on third down in trouble, steps up.

598
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Speaker 3: Sacked again at the forty four yard line.

599
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Speaker 6: This time it's.

600
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Speaker 2: Cam Thomas steps up in the pocket, gets hit, armed,

601
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Speaker 2: is hit. Ball flutters picked off by Simmons at the

602
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Speaker 2: forty yard line and tackled at the thirty seven. Cam

603
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Speaker 2: Thomas swiped at the throwing arm of Mac Jones.

604
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: The ball fluttered into the air, picked off by Simmons.

605
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Speaker 4: As a rookie, Cam Thomas eighteen tackles, three sacks, six

606
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Speaker 4: quarterback hits, one pass defense in seventeen games. The question

607
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Speaker 4: is what does he do in year two?

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Speaker 3: We say welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It is the Cardinals Red Sea Report were presented by

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Speaker 4: Zeekeek Your ticket to great Seats. We do it every

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Speaker 4: Tuesday at eleven am. It is year round. Greg Realloup,

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Speaker 4: Paul Calvic and Kyle n and Bosh and let's start

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Speaker 4: this conversation with UKVB as far as the edge rush

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Speaker 4: outside linebacker position. Cameron Thomas, my J Sanders your two

615
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Speaker 4: draft picks last year. You got bj Oujulari your draft

616
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Speaker 4: pick this year. But that jump from year one to

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Speaker 4: year two, whether you're talking about Cam or you're talking

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Speaker 4: about my J, how big of a leap is the

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Speaker 4: expectation for those two young edge rushers.

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Speaker 5: My expectations high, particularly the way the season went last year.

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Speaker 5: You just covered Cam Thomas's statistics from last year, but

622
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Speaker 5: it shouldn't be spread out over the whole season because

623
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Speaker 5: he really got a lot more playing time and was

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Speaker 5: much more impactful on the last third quarter of the

625
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Speaker 5: season and really became a quality contributor making plays getting

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Speaker 5: in the backfield. Same with my J Sanders. Early in

627
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Speaker 5: the season, he didn't see the field much, wasn't making

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Speaker 5: much of an impact, and became a regular part of

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Speaker 5: the rotation late in the season. And so that experience,

630
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Speaker 5: those game reps late in the season, that will serve

631
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Speaker 5: them well and that will be a reason why I

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Speaker 5: expect him to kind of just pick up where they

633
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Speaker 5: left off and make an impact early in this season.

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Speaker 4: Listed at two sixty seven, although he says he's about

635
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Speaker 4: two seventy two seventy two, which is what he played

636
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Speaker 4: at at San Diego State drop weight when he got

637
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Speaker 4: to the Cardinals. Now has brought that weight back up,

638
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: but he mentioned Paul that he doesn't feel, even with

639
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Speaker 4: that increase weight that he's any slower.

640
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Speaker 3: He feels just as fast and a lot stronger.

641
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Speaker 7: If everybody wins the offseason, like Cameron Thomas, then the

642
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 7: Cardinals will be somewhere this year. To hear him tell it,

643
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Speaker 7: he's had a heck of an offseason. He was on

644
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Speaker 7: the Big Red Rage recently and to your point, came

645
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Speaker 7: into two seven. He got down to two fifty five

646
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Speaker 7: last year, you know, based on where the Cardinals wanted

647
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Speaker 7: him because he was in the outside linebacker room. But

648
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Speaker 7: then he's built back up and he's put on the

649
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Speaker 7: fifteen pounds that he lost, but he feels like it's

650
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Speaker 7: a really good fifteen pounds. He hasn't lost any of

651
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Speaker 7: the agility, any of the explode. He's much stronger, So

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Speaker 7: I think they have the ability, Kyle, you tell me,

653
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Speaker 7: I know he's in the outside linebacker room, but as

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Speaker 7: a five technique and certain pass rushing downs, he's got

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Speaker 7: his hand in the dirt. He certainly has experience doing

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Speaker 7: that from his San Diego State days, and even he

657
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Speaker 7: said he had a body composition test this offseason guys,

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Speaker 7: and they said he could get up to three hundred

659
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Speaker 7: pounds if he so chooses, and it would be good weight.

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Speaker 7: His body frame could handle it. So I'm curious what

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Speaker 7: is his future not only this year, but in the

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Speaker 7: next three to four years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean from what I the limited tape I

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Speaker 5: saw from him in college, I think he plays better

665
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Speaker 5: pass rush, is better tight on players, like as a

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Speaker 5: five technique or even as a three technique, because he

667
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Speaker 5: uses his hands really well. He is strong and he's powerful.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe last year that moved to you know,

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Speaker 5: playing out in space, being really wide playing outside linebacker

671
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Speaker 5: was a little unfamiliar to him. He seems to do

672
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Speaker 5: better in the mix because he uses his hand so well. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm guessing this was a conscious decision that

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Speaker 5: he made, not just for himself, but with the coaching staff,

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Speaker 5: like where do you want me?

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Speaker 6: How can I best be used? What do you want

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Speaker 6: my weight to look like?

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Speaker 5: And he's doing that, and you know, again This is

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Speaker 5: another sign the Cardinals made a big investment into their

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Speaker 5: strength and conditioning staff and their training staff, and you're

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Speaker 5: starting to see it with some of their athletes, particularly

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Speaker 5: Cameron Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Question about role something that we've always asked, whether it

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Speaker 4: was the head coach or an assistant coach, but the

685
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Speaker 4: role for Cameron Thomas upcoming, here's the head coach, Jonathan Gannon's.

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Speaker 8: Playing outside back or for us right now, defensive ends

687
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Speaker 8: and outside linebackers are kind of the same position for us.

688
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Speaker 8: So like where he's at, he's a big, powerful guy.

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Speaker 8: He's doing some good things on the grass with movement

690
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Speaker 8: skills and different things like that. And like where he's at.

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Speaker 4: Could see him stand up, could see him with his

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Speaker 4: hand in the dirt. The question now is as we

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Speaker 4: transition to your guy, Paul, and that is a and

694
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Speaker 4: Collins once again spotted working with the outside linebackers. The

695
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Speaker 4: edge rushers still listed at least on my personal position

696
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Speaker 4: by position breakdown with the inside linebackers. I'm not quite

697
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Speaker 4: ready to make that transition, although I'm getting closer and

698
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Speaker 4: closer to your line of thinking, because one, there is

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Speaker 4: a gigantic need at pass rush with this team.

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Speaker 3: And it's just his size, you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean six ' four every bit of two point

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Speaker 7: sixty for Xavi and Collins to have the ability to

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Speaker 7: play the edge, which he did quite a bit last

704
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Speaker 7: year at times. Let's not forget guys out of necessity.

705
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Speaker 7: He was out on the edge both because of injury

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Speaker 7: and in some different pass rushing schemes. Vans Joseph got

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Speaker 7: a little exotic at times with different guys in different spots,

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Speaker 7: and I think they liked what they saw on film.

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Speaker 7: He has the size and the strength and the tenacity

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Speaker 7: to hold the point and be good against the run.

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Speaker 7: But then we know we can go sideline to sideline,

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Speaker 7: so why not just unleash him after the quarterback? And

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Speaker 7: with that in mind, I think they're going to go

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Speaker 7: down swinging. I mean, they have a need at edge rusher.

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Speaker 7: They just lost half their sacks out the door in JJ,

716
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Speaker 7: Watt and Zach Allen, so they got to replace those somehow,

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Speaker 7: some way, and to get a rotation of guys that

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Speaker 7: now includes his, Zam and Collins off the edge. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I fully expect them to give this every chance to

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Speaker 7: succeed throughout training camp.

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Speaker 4: Size wise, there's not a huge difference between Zavin and

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Speaker 4: Cam Thomas the same height, and Cameron Thomas is just

723
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Speaker 4: a little bit bigger by about depending on what day

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Speaker 4: you weigh them, maybe by between eight to twelve pounds.

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Speaker 4: But if you're just looking for the measurables, if one

726
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Speaker 4: can do it, maybe you try another guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he's he does have all the measurables

728
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Speaker 5: to be an edge rusher, a defensive end. He's he's strong,

729
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Speaker 5: he's fast, he's explosive, you know, to me, he even

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Speaker 5: halfway through last season, there was still a question mark

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Speaker 5: a ten to Zavi and Collins about whether the light

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Speaker 5: bulb would ever come on, whether you know, he could

733
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Speaker 5: be an impact player, whether he could live up to

734
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Speaker 5: his lofty draft position that where the Cardinals took him.

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Speaker 5: And then you know, he started to really use his

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Speaker 5: hands better, you know, we I know it was talked

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Speaker 5: about a lot about keeping blockers out of his chest

738
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Speaker 5: and not letting blockers get into him because he wasn't

739
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 5: seeing things while I wasn't using his hands well. And

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Speaker 5: really about mid season he seemed like he really became

741
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 5: comfortable and started to use his hands well and was

742
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Speaker 5: making more tackles and being a part of more plays,

743
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Speaker 5: and that's a huge part of playing defensive line, being

744
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Speaker 5: in Ed's brushers, the ability to use your hands keep

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Speaker 5: blockers off viewing when blockers do get on, you to

746
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Speaker 5: hit and disengage as fast as you can. And he's

747
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Speaker 5: shown that ability. You know, I didn't know if he

748
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Speaker 5: had that ability earlier in his career, but I think

749
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Speaker 5: he can do it. And like to Paul's point, you know,

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Speaker 5: he did rush on the edge sometimes last year out

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Speaker 5: of necessity, and it seemed like he was impactful just

752
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Speaker 5: about every time he did rush on the edge.

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Speaker 7: All Right, I don't want to minimize the job requirements

754
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Speaker 7: to play in the edge Kyle manninbosh okay, your former position,

755
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Speaker 7: but just taking it off the play to calling the

756
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Speaker 7: defense and being the mic linebacker like he was last

757
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 7: year replacing Jordan Hicks. I mean, how much more is

758
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Speaker 7: he able to just play and not think it's huge?

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Speaker 5: It's that's all of it, I mean, quite frankly, you know,

760
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Speaker 5: the places I played where we had the best defensive lines,

761
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Speaker 5: we didn't think about anything. We didn't know what linebackers

762
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Speaker 5: doing behind us, We didn't know what DB's are doing

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Speaker 5: behind us. The coaches, and I have to imagine that

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Speaker 5: this is how Nick Rollis and Jonathan Gannon want their

765
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: defense to look. The coaches just wanted to put our

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Speaker 5: hands in the dirt and go and be disruptive and

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Speaker 5: hit anything that moves and get in the backfield and

768
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Speaker 5: if you don't get a sack, hit the quarterback, because

769
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Speaker 5: the cumulative hits on a quarterback early in the game

770
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Speaker 5: have a huge effect later in the game. And I

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Speaker 5: think it will just free him up because you could

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Speaker 5: see he had did You're right.

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Speaker 6: Paul, He had so much to think about.

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Speaker 5: He had to worry about where everybody else is, checks,

775
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: getting calls, worry about his coverage, his drops, his gap assignments.

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Speaker 5: Now you put your hand in the dirt and you go.

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Speaker 5: You got to think that he if this is how

778
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: they use him, he will feel liberated and just be

779
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: able to put his hand in the dirt and just

780
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Speaker 5: you know, make something happen.

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Speaker 4: Give Zavon credit. According to head coach Jonathan Gannon, Zavion

782
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Speaker 4: is willing and ready to do whatever is asked of them.

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Speaker 6: He's doing a good job.

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Speaker 8: What I love about Zavon as that's the type of

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00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 8: makeup that you want in your players, is coach, I'm

786
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Speaker 8: willing to do anything that you want me to do

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Speaker 8: to help the team. And when you have a bunch

788
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Speaker 8: of guys like that on your team, you have a

789
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Speaker 8: good chance to win.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget that.

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00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 7: Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rolis just just unleash the athleticism

792
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Speaker 7: of Hassan Reddick.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals fans know it all too well.

794
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 7: Is Son Reddick is an inside backer, there's too much thinking,

795
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 7: always a half step slow. You would see him this

796
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 7: time of here has Son Reddick out on the field,

797
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Speaker 7: like look at the athleticism, look at the burst, the explosion,

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Speaker 7: but you never quite saw it on game day backer.

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Speaker 7: As soon as they moved him to the edge and

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00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 7: he was thinking less and playing more and just using

801
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 7: his instincts and going after the quarterback. Look at what

802
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 7: happened as Son Reddick's career. I remember a quote in

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Speaker 7: December last year Jonathan Gannon to the media said, if

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Speaker 7: I didn't drop Hassan Reddick into coverage so much, he'd

805
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 7: have twenty five sacks. And so I think that they're

806
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 7: thinking Zamon Collins might be someone similar. They can unleash

807
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 7: that athleticism.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you want to see Zamon Collins and action

809
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Speaker 10: With the forty first pick and the twenty twenty three draft,

814
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Speaker 10: the Arizona Cardinals select bj Old Jelori, linebacker LSU.

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Speaker 11: I love what Ojai can do in the past sand

816
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 11: run game. I think he's a very natural pass rusher.

817
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 11: You can see his bend coming off the edge with speed.

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00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: He can beat his speed.

819
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Speaker 11: He's very fluid and natural with his counter rushes. And

820
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Speaker 11: then on top of that, he can stick a long

821
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 11: arm in there and moves off his long arm. So

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Speaker 11: as far as his rush ability, very versatile, very natural.

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Speaker 11: And then I love the tools that he has in

824
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Speaker 11: the run game.

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Speaker 4: How much well we Seejalari this season? How much of

826
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Speaker 4: an impact can we expect from the Cardinals' second round

827
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Speaker 4: draft pick. Certainly there is a need at edge rusher

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Speaker 4: and that is where Ojelari plays and very productive the

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Speaker 4: last two seasons at LSU eighty pressures second most and

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Speaker 4: power five behind only Will Anderson, and as we just

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Speaker 4: discussed in our previous segment, Paul, that there is a

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Speaker 4: need at edge rusher. But to hear Nick Rawlis talk

833
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: about the ability to set the edge as well. Can't

834
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Speaker 4: forget about the run game and the run defense.

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Speaker 7: If there were two re since he dropped out of

836
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Speaker 7: the first round, if you believe the scouts, One he

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Speaker 7: wasn't as effective against the run supposedly allegedly as those

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Speaker 7: picked ahead of him, And there were four edge rushers

839
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Speaker 7: who went in the first round, three after Will Anderson,

840
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Speaker 7: and number two he had that hamstring injury that really

841
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 7: hampered him throughout the offseason and it still wasn't.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent in his pro day.

843
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Speaker 7: So maybe some of the measurables weren't quite there and

844
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Speaker 7: he couldn't work out like he thought. But you know,

845
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Speaker 7: so that's Nick Rowlis is bullsh on his ability to

846
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Speaker 7: stop the run. We had Bgo Jalarian on the Big

847
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 7: Red Rage, and he is hell bent on proving that

848
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 7: he is stout against the run. What I like to

849
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Speaker 7: hear in some of these skunt of reports, Kyle and

850
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 7: you tell me is that he's varied in his pass

851
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 7: rush skills. He's not just a one trick pass rusher

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Speaker 7: that supposedly he comes in already with counter moves, which

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Speaker 7: a lot of times in my experience on a rookie

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Speaker 7: pass rusher, that's something you have to develop in your game.

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00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 7: Apparently he's already there. Yeah, that's huge. It's huge. I

856
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Speaker 7: mean I heard I heard your interview with him, and

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Speaker 7: you talked about the hesitation rush. To even for a

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Speaker 7: young player to have developed that already, that's big. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's one of the things that I wasn't

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Speaker 7: a nifty or crafty pass rusher. I was just kind

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Speaker 7: of a Marcus Golden, like stick your face in there

862
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 7: and go as hard as you can and sacks will happen, right.

863
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 7: And I loved watching Chandler Jones because he just had

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00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 7: an array of pass rush moves and he would be

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Speaker 7: setting things up in the first quarter to take advantage

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Speaker 7: of this offensive tackle in the third and fourth quarters

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Speaker 7: or on a key third down. And to have the

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Speaker 7: ability to do that is huge Because as much as

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Speaker 7: I studied offensive lineman and offensive tackles, they would study

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Speaker 7: me as well, and they would figure out what I

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00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 7: did well and if they stopped it, sometimes I was

872
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 7: just at a loss. But when you have a variety

873
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Speaker 7: of moves, a variety of different ways to win against

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Speaker 7: offensive tackles, it really gives you a head start.

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Speaker 5: You know, as a rookie coming into the league. The

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Speaker 5: fact that he is he has done these things in

877
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Speaker 5: college and experimented and found out what works for him.

878
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Speaker 5: You know, he can already dig into that tool chest

879
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Speaker 5: and pull out the tools that he needs during when

880
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Speaker 5: it's in crucial times of ball games.

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Speaker 4: Let's switch it up over to the offense. Looking at

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Speaker 4: the rookie class, what about wide receiver Michael Wilson, a

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Speaker 4: Day three pick ninety fourth overall. How much of an

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Speaker 4: impact can we expect from him? Let's hear from the

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Speaker 4: rookie Michael Wilson out of Stanford.

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Speaker 12: Obviously they brought me here to make an impact in

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Speaker 12: some way, shape or form. I'm not going to put

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Speaker 12: a title on what that's going to look like. And

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Speaker 12: I believe whatever I get is what I'm going to earn.

890
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Speaker 12: And so if that's being a starting receiver, that's great.

891
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 12: If that's being a special teams guy, that's also great.

892
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 12: If that's being a backup receiver plus special team gunner, roll.

893
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Speaker 12: Whatever role that I carve out for myself, it's going

894
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Speaker 12: to be completely dependent on what I do on the

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Speaker 12: practice field, how I carry myself in the meatia room.

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Speaker 3: Love that mindset.

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Speaker 4: You also have to love his height six foot two,

898
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: same height as Zach Pascal, DeAndre Hopkins. Whatever happens with him,

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Speaker 4: he's six feet tall. So you need some You need

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Speaker 4: some size in that wide receiver room. Considering what we've

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Speaker 4: seen over the past several years, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean, he looks good. You know, it's a classic on air.

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Speaker 7: He looks good. He sounds even better. He's a great interview,

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Speaker 7: He's a top five interview. He's very smart, already has

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Speaker 7: a degree in engineering from Stanford. He was a team captain.

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Speaker 7: What I'm really intrigued to see is once they get

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Speaker 7: pads on, Supposedly he has a lot of juice after

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Speaker 7: the catch. He can make guys miss, he can run

909
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 7: guys over with his size, and he plays with this

910
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Speaker 7: certain nasty at that receiver spot.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot to like so far.

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Speaker 7: I know we're sitting here in May, but man, you

913
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Speaker 7: talk about an opportunity for a young guy to come

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Speaker 7: in as a round three receiver, and remember what he

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Speaker 7: said he kind of went Clayton tune in his interview

916
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Speaker 7: when he said, quote, you got the steal of the draft.

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Speaker 7: So he's confident in his own abilities.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully the injury issues are behind him, whether it was

919
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: the collarbone last year, foot injuries in twenty twenty and

920
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Speaker 4: twenty two one. But not a fast guy when you

921
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Speaker 4: look at his forty but his ten yard split is

922
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Speaker 4: up there amongst the best, and then he benched twenty

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Speaker 4: three reps which put him in the ninety six percentile

924
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Speaker 4: among wide receivers. So there is not only that get

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Speaker 4: off at the line of scrimmage skyle, but the ability

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Speaker 4: to maybe get some separation as well.

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Speaker 5: Oh and kwand Bolden Larry Fitzgerald. Neither one of them

928
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Speaker 5: blew you away with their forty times. But they were strong,

929
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Speaker 5: they were good route runners, had tremendous hands, and were

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Speaker 5: good with the ball in their hands after the catch.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not comparing him to them, but just the

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Speaker 5: fact that he didn't blow anybody away with his forty time,

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Speaker 5: it's not a negative. I mean, wide receivers get open

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Speaker 5: because of the routes they run, not just because of

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Speaker 5: their speed.

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Speaker 4: Bottom line, A lot of these Draft picks. There were

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Speaker 4: nine total. I think a lot of them, whether it's

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Speaker 4: offense or defense, are going to be given the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to make an impact sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 3: Let's put a bow on this one.

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