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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 2: Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty, and he.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty, and finally, residents of western Ohio reported

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Speaker 3: seeing a rare black squirrel with a white tail and

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm looking at my bank of televisions like

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Speaker 2: I wanted to before five televisions, and we're fortunate that

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Speaker 2: we can do whatever we want. We can talk about

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Speaker 2: whatever we want, although obviously we have the goal of

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Speaker 2: talking about things you're interested in. That's kind of how

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Speaker 2: the business works. But everybody but Fox is leading the

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Speaker 2: hour with some version of the Epstein story, and there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of new stuff. There's a lot of new

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Speaker 2: stuff that I find somewhat interesting actually for the first

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Speaker 2: time maybe ever in this whole saga. But everybody and

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Speaker 2: Fox is going with the new revelations about the crazy

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Speaker 2: kid that tried to assassinate Trump and almost did the

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Speaker 2: crooks person. So Fox has decided not to lead with Epstein.

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Speaker 2: I guess because Trump's Name's attached to it. I don't

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Speaker 2: know AnyWho more on that later. So this Thomas Crooks person,

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Speaker 2: you remember, he climbed up on the roof there in Butler, Pennsylvania. Amazingly,

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Speaker 2: he was able to climb up on a roof with

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Speaker 2: a high powered rifle. People everywhere, people saw him, perfect

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Speaker 2: line of sight to the President of the United States

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Speaker 2: and squeeze off quite a few shots. And it's just

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Speaker 2: freaking luck that he didn't blow Donald Trump's head off

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Speaker 2: in front of all of us and change world history.

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Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, change world history. All of the Middle

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Speaker 2: East stuff would be completely different. Obviously, the economy, tariffs,

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, completely different. Sure, one hundred examples, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a hundred examples, and then playing out in ways that

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Speaker 2: we'll never know AnyWho. Thomas Crooks. We now know more

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Speaker 2: about him. And the big question from Miranda Divine of

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Speaker 2: the New York Post is one of their lead reporters,

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Speaker 2: she broke the hundred laptop story. The big question is

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Speaker 2: why was this stuff kept from us earlier? Is there

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Speaker 2: a reason for that? Some of the stuff that is

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Speaker 2: out from Miranda Divines reporting Thomas Crooks had all kinds

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Speaker 2: of different accounts out there and platforms that he was

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Speaker 2: going on a lot of this reporting has been done

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Speaker 2: by people just like regular people out there figuring this

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Speaker 2: stuff out and why the ect mean if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: The official word in the wake of his arrest and identification,

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Speaker 4: well and death, was that he really had no online presence, mysterious.

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Speaker 2: He was ghost, they called him. He had no online previence, presence,

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Speaker 2: and not really any political any of this or that.

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Speaker 2: It turns out actually he was a hardcore Trump supporter,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like really a big Trump supporter. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: more about that in a second. Some of these posts

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Speaker 2: and then flipped at some point. Nobody's exactly sure why

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Speaker 2: to a Trump hater, but sources use publicly available research

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Speaker 2: tools to link multiple email addresses to crooks and then

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Speaker 2: found usernames associated with those emails on all kinds of sites,

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Speaker 2: including YouTube, Snapchat, PayPal, discord, chess, dot com, Korra, deviant Art,

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Speaker 2: and others. So he had quite a presence on lots

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Speaker 2: of different sites, used in different names, and it didn't

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Speaker 2: sound like it took super geniuses to figure out was him.

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Speaker 2: Why the multi gazillion dollar FBI Secret Service investigation into

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Speaker 2: this after he almost killed the president didn't uncover this

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Speaker 2: stuff well, That's what the question is here, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure a lot of people would answer yelling at their

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Speaker 4: Although having gotten to the end of this, I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure what narrative to take away other than this guy

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Speaker 2: But the FBI has not confirmed the details of Kirk's

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Speaker 2: possible social media accounts and did not respond to a request.

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Speaker 2: Does he have to remember the investigation would have happened

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Speaker 2: under the Biden administration FBI. Well, the Trump FBI is

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Speaker 2: not commenting on it, and it might just be because

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Speaker 2: they don't know what to say yet. But well, to

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Speaker 2: your point, though, is there anything satisfying the whole What

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Speaker 2: was his motive? Thing almost always turns out to be

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Speaker 2: they were a crazy, angry person, was their motive. But

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Speaker 2: we still should have known all this stuff. His early

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Speaker 2: online presence, when he would have been in high school

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Speaker 2: was almost exclusively plote pro Trump, while he also made

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Speaker 2: being patriotic was lining up a bunch of socialists, Jews

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Speaker 2: YouTube account featuring Crooks's full name posted in the comments

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Speaker 2: under a clip of Trump being booed during the twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen World Series in Washington. That's where he made that post.

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Speaker 2: So he did obscure it by having his entire name

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Speaker 2: on the comment on YouTube, the most used platform in

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Speaker 2: the world, right right, nobody. That's quite a trail too

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Speaker 2: under Israel name. Every one of the Trump hating Democrats

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Speaker 2: deserves to have their heads chopped off and put on

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Speaker 2: stakes for the world to see what happens when you

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Speaker 2: f with America, he said on one comment under an

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Speaker 2: MSNBC clip from July at twenty nineteen. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a guy spewing threats and violence. Shouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: on somebody's radar. I don't know how much I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: how I don't know how any violent threats you can

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Speaker 2: make on social media without in and up on some

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Speaker 4: And specifically political assassination under his real name, flagged by

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Speaker 2: He also described in detail how he would use an

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Speaker 2: assault rifle against a crowd of political opponents, frequently quoting

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Speaker 2: the line the only true political power comes from the

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Speaker 2: barrel of a gun. That's from Chairman mau and crooks

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Speaker 2: made violent threats against Democratic members of the Squad, Well,

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Speaker 2: you're thinking a Democrat led White House and a squad

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Speaker 2: friendly media. If somebody was out there making violent threats

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Speaker 2: against the squad, that would have bubbled up somehow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess the internet is just too vast. Nobody

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Speaker 4: with any connections noticed.

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Speaker 2: I guess. I hope a quick and painful death to

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Speaker 2: all the deplorable immigrants and anti Trump cong women who

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Speaker 2: don't deserve anything this country has given them, he wrote

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Speaker 2: in July of twenty nineteen, But in twenty twenty, in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the COVID pandemic, he appeared to make

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Speaker 2: a one hundred and eighty degree turn in his views

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Speaker 2: on Trump. I'm pretty sure people are just racist, and

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Speaker 2: Trump is one of them. There does not need to

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Speaker 2: be a deep state for that, he said on a

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Speaker 2: he said. It's around this time that he started posting

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Speaker 2: violent artworks, According to sources, One piece titled how He

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Speaker 2: shared on deviant Art, shows a figured clad in black

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Speaker 2: had his pronouns in some various things, ay them. I'm

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Speaker 2: told that doesn't really mean anything, though I know plenty

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Speaker 2: of people that I know for a fact aren't really

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Speaker 2: headline stuff because they can't ask.

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Speaker 4: Well, he wouldn't be, but he wouldn't be listing in

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Speaker 4: his pronouns as they them.

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Speaker 2: Of course. You know, again the takeaway because.

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Speaker 4: He flipped then and was just vicious to Trump supporters

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Speaker 4: called him sheep and cult and your two brainwashed to

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Speaker 2: This is in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: So you know, he's just an angry, angry, disturbed young man.

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Speaker 2: His personal YouTube and Google searches also reveal a pattern

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Speaker 2: of violence and an obsession with guns and famous assassinations,

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Speaker 2: which is often common with assassins. Between twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, he made searches for Lee Harvey Oswald's killer

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Speaker 2: among other attacks. He also searched how to fire an

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Speaker 2: AR fifteen as fast as possible, as well as how

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Speaker 2: to make a fertilizer bomb in a moll of cocktail.

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Speaker 2: He repeatedly looked for information related to body armor, high

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Speaker 2: doing something. He wasn't just quite sure why yet. And

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Speaker 2: then I'm guessing he heard, Hey, the President's coming to town.

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Speaker 2: I know what I'll do, right exactly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think maybe the fundamental question here is

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Speaker 4: just ask the question, how did why did the authorities

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Speaker 4: claim that this guy was an online ghost and there's

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Speaker 4: nothing knowable about him when you know amateur sleuths.

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Speaker 2: Granted some time has passed.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure why this is coming out now, frankly,

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Speaker 4: but when there is all sorts of information about this guy,

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Speaker 4: it might not lead you in a helpful direction per se.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't think it does.

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Speaker 4: Although he's a big fan of terrorism, sneaking bombs in

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Speaker 4: and shooting people and the rest of it. Looking at

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Speaker 4: another one of his quotes, how is it that that

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Speaker 2: That's troubling. I naively have this view of if somebody

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Speaker 2: almost kills the former president about to be next president,

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Speaker 2: there is no rock unturned in terms of figuring this out.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there were lots of rocks that were unturned. We

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Speaker 2: got to get to this before we run out of time.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you my favorite part about muscle mommies next.

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Speaker 2: And this has got no significance other than we learn

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Speaker 2: muscle mommies. Yes, I will, I will stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because this time of year, practically everybody you probably

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Speaker 2: Krook apparently had a muscle mommy fetish and repeatedly searched

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Speaker 2: for videos about female bodybuilders and muscular women. So like

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Speaker 2: older women who are really big and really muscular, and

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Speaker 2: then in some of the art where it's not real women,

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Speaker 2: they're like ten feet tall and giant, towering over him,

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. This is also from The New

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Speaker 2: York Post's Miranda Divine. Krook's had two possible accounts on

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Speaker 2: deviant Art for people who identify as anthropomorphized animal characters

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Speaker 2: that'd be furries and are sexually attracted to them. And

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Speaker 2: then he's got one post repost of a towering muscular

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Speaker 2: And then you get the whole. Then you got the whole.

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Speaker 2: As we've talked about a lot over many years. Because

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Speaker 2: That's why I hope that the New York Post actually

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Speaker 2: ends up with a California bureau like they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could get some reporters in California that actually

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Speaker 2: know what's happening, because they reported stuff about Arnold all

435
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Speaker 2: the time that just wasn't true. Yeah, we thought it

436
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Speaker 2: was hilarious reading, you know what.

437
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I need to reassess my discussion of the out

438
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Speaker 4: of touchedness of the Eastern media.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have a single effing.

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Speaker 4: Idea what's going on west of Ohio, because I was

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Speaker 4: about to include Nevada and Arizona in the West coast,

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Speaker 4: because you know, I know the politics of those states

443
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Speaker 4: fairly well, and the East coast media has no idea

444
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Speaker 4: what's going on. But then Illinois, even they just I've

445
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Speaker 4: never read any good analysis of Illinois politics out of

446
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Speaker 4: the East Coast media anyway.

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Speaker 2: Newsom, this part is true and troubling.

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Speaker 4: Newsom is also the bet position Democrat according to the

449
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Speaker 4: new rules of politics, namely, whether you can, whether you

450
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Speaker 4: are or can become famous by breaking through on social media.

451
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Speaker 4: How many other potential candidates are plausible celebrities who can

452
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Speaker 4: transcend the political pop culture divide.

453
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Speaker 2: I'll Abama and Trump if.

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Speaker 4: You believe the phone in your hand will more than

455
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Speaker 4: any factor determine the next Democratic nominee. It's hard not

456
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Speaker 4: to grasp new some strength. As the kids say, he

457
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Speaker 4: gives main character energy.

458
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Speaker 2: He laugh, I laughed, main character energy, all right. Actually

459
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Speaker 2: the kids would say main character or energy because they

460
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Speaker 2: don't say teas anymore. That's right, laziness. Yeah, yeah, Well,

461
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Speaker 2: it's so my youngest last night I said he's just

462
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Speaker 2: going to live off the government. It's oh. I was

463
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Speaker 2: talking about his grades and various things. I'll just what

464
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Speaker 2: are you gonna do when you're eighteen? And I've given

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Speaker 2: a very I mean, it could have been straight out

466
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Speaker 2: of a sitcom. I was given such a classic dad speech.

467
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Speaker 2: But his answer was I'll just live off the government.

468
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Speaker 2: Frankfully made me laugh. Moral arguments about that. He knows

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Speaker 2: how I feel about that, So he was trying to anyway.

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Speaker 4: So the thing about Gaffy and this is not a

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Speaker 4: political liability in a especially a pre primary period, which

472
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Speaker 4: we're talking about right now. Good god, it's only twenty

473
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Speaker 4: twenty five and we're actually contemplating on even a little

474
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Speaker 4: bit the twenty twenty eight race. But on which side

475
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Speaker 4: of the party's liberal versus moderate divide will knew some

476
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Speaker 4: position himself.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Martin asks, neither I wanted to be the mansion

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Speaker 2: to Mamdani party. I wanted to be inclusive.

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Speaker 4: The government told the governor told him last week, well

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Speaker 4: good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: Mad mansion.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's clever because it's got two m's in it.

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Speaker 4: What would that look like, because I don't think the

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Speaker 4: mansion or mansion adjacent Democrats of today have any patients

485
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Speaker 4: at all with the Mumdani super woke crowd anymore because

486
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Speaker 4: they realize it's dragging him down. In fact, the Free

487
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Speaker 4: Press had a great piece by this young woman who

488
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Speaker 4: is a you know, San Francisco based fundraiser and mover

489
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Speaker 4: and shaker and the Democratic Party and left it and

490
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Speaker 4: it's an interesting essay about what happens to you personally

491
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Speaker 4: when you do that and online it's brutal, absolutely brutal.

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Speaker 4: But Gavin is nothing, But he is nothing if not calculating,

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Speaker 4: and he does not want to run off a single

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Speaker 4: you know, cohort of the Democratic vote at this point,

495
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Speaker 4: which is probably smart.

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Speaker 2: So all right, he's officially.

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Speaker 4: On the uh well, he's been on the radar screen

498
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Speaker 4: for a long time, but he has now been christened

499
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Speaker 4: anointed by several media heavyweights as the Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, all depends on who runs against him, of course,

501
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Speaker 2: and then events make a very big deal. As John

502
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Speaker 2: McCain was the nominee for the Republicans when we thought

503
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Speaker 2: the main issue was going to be the war in

504
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Speaker 2: Iraq and Barack Obama was his opponent, and the main

505
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Speaker 2: issue ended up being the financial crisis and the collapse

506
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Speaker 2: and turning to a war veteran with strong opinions on

507
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Speaker 2: the war in Iraq. Nobody cared because it was all

508
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Speaker 2: about the economy. You just you never know, You never know, right.

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Speaker 4: You want to hear my favorite headline of the day,

510
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Speaker 4: woman pleads guilty to lying about astronaut wife accessing bank

511
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Speaker 4: account from space station. That is definitely one of those headlines. Wait,

512
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I need to hear that one more time.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot happening here. Woman pleads guilty to lying

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Speaker 4: about astronaut wife accessing bank account from space stage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'd missed the first part. The woman pled guilty

516
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Speaker 2: to lying it never.

517
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Speaker 4: Abowed her lesbian astronaut wife draining the accounts from outer space.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's is it near space?

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Speaker 2: Where did she drain the accounts herself and try to

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Speaker 2: blame it on her astronaut? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the midst of a divorce, Yeah, and a

522
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Speaker 4: bitter custody battle.

523
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Speaker 2: Over kids or a Cordese French.

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Speaker 4: Bulldogs they're referring to their son. I believe it is

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Speaker 4: a human still could be a French bulldog conceived through

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Speaker 4: ivy fertilization, carried by a surrogate. Mishaw, you got two

527
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Speaker 4: women in this relationship, Why do you need a surrogate?

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Speaker 2: He is lazy? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll get angry emails for that. Maybe you

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Speaker 4: weren't biologically, physically anatomically able to carry a child.

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Speaker 2: Were you just lazy? Well, you got two.

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Speaker 4: Women's in this relationship, granted the ones in ounter space.

533
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Speaker 4: I get this so that it eliminates the one. Eh boy. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I hope those two crazy kids can work out their

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Speaker 4: problems and co parents successfully.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to get to it till our three

537
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Speaker 2: actually came across some I think interesting stuff about the

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Speaker 2: Epstein vote today. What's actually in that bill that I

539
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Speaker 2: didn't know?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Can you imagine going to the bank manager and saying, yeah,

541
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Speaker 4: I think it's my wife where strange she's draining our

542
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Speaker 4: accounts from space. Okay, I'll be right back, says the

543
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Speaker 4: bank manager, and he walks out of the office, not

544
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Speaker 4: knowing where to go or who to call, but just

545
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Speaker 4: needing a moment of time to think.

546
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Speaker 2: Walks out, gets in his car and drives at the

547
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Speaker 2: bar and that's what he does. Okay, we got more

548
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Speaker 2: on the way, stay here.

549
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Speaker 4: Tonight.

550
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Speaker 2: New details about the list of perks that Glleene Maxwell

551
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Speaker 2: is getting behind bars.

552
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: The warden helps her send documents and emails the warden.

553
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Speaker 2: Hello, warden, it's game. I'm having just an awful time

554
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Speaker 2: converting this file to PDS. Dear, Yeah, I'll send the

555
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Speaker 2: it g I. Oh, no, you want attend to this personally?

556
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yes, miss, I'm sorry. Am I still on

557
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Speaker 2: the phone?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, Miss Maxwell?

559
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Speaker 2: And scene all right, Yeah, I've heard about that. Uh,

560
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: the whole her in prison thing. What's going on there?

561
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Speaker 2: That kind of prison? If I ever commit a crime,

562
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Speaker 2: I got to commit a crime that gets me sent

563
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Speaker 2: to one of those prisons, sounds awesome. I'd feel like

564
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Speaker 2: it's more of it keeps people away from me, then

565
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 2: keeps me away from people like I'm hearing, nobody can

566
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Speaker 2: come bother me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely it'd be a white collar crime guy.

568
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I see a little chance for you to,

569
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Speaker 4: you know, go to the big house.

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Speaker 2: I don't know it just the real kind, yes, Michael.

571
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Speaker 4: Just more of a copyright in Frenchman type right, that's

572
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: about as dangerous as high role.

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Speaker 2: You're so right, Michael. So I just saw up on

574
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Speaker 2: Fox they're interviewing Walter Isaacson, author who's written some great

575
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Speaker 2: great books Ben Franklin's book. Right, He's got a new

576
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: book about the Declaration of Independence come out. That sounds fantastic.

577
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: There's gotta be a lot of good old timey revolutionary

578
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Speaker 2: stuff coming because of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary

579
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Speaker 2: of our country, which happens this next July fourth, two thousands.

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Speaker 4: Jim Sanderfers has got a fabulous new book coming out.

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Speaker 2: True the obviously twenty twenty six is two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty years after seventeen seventy six. And so can you

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Speaker 2: look this up, Katie? Did ken Byrne Revolutionary Wars series

584
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Speaker 2: start already? I thought I heard a tease that it

585
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Speaker 2: started Sunday night, but I forgot to look into it

586
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Speaker 2: or whatever. I want to watch that with my son.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's gonna be great. I'm a big fan

588
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Speaker 2: of ken Burns documentaries. I love Founding Father's stuff, absolutely

589
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Speaker 2: love it. So that's cool. I hope, you know, I

590
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Speaker 2: hope wherever your kids are they can get a decent

591
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Speaker 2: dose of founding Father's stuff. That isn't all about them

592
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Speaker 2: being slaveholders and this and that, which is highly annoying.

593
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Speaker 2: The penny. You tweeted this out, I think, Joe, so

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Speaker 2: we got rid of the penny. We made the last

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Speaker 2: two pennies the other day. Yes, compared to its value

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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty six, the penny is now worth a

597
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Speaker 2: tenth of a cent, the nickel is worth a half

598
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Speaker 2: a cent, and the dime is the same as what

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Speaker 2: a penny was in nineteen sixty six. Correct. That's not

600
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: a bad little lesson about inflation, because inflation isn't just

601
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Speaker 2: a thing that happened during COVID. After Joe Biden, inflation

602
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: is ongoing. At its best, it's around two percent. But

603
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: we had a period there in the late seventies early

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Speaker 2: eighties where it was horribly high, and we had a

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Speaker 2: period during COVID where it was horribly high. But so

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Speaker 2: a dime is worth what a penny was in nineteen

607
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Speaker 2: sixty six. That's a good thing to know and keep

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Speaker 2: in mind. Well, and it points out the absurdity of

609
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Speaker 2: having a penny. How many people between nineteen sixty six

610
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Speaker 2: and today would have said, it makes sense to have

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Speaker 2: a tenth of a cent piece. Nobody, No, ridiculous, No,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure we need the nickel that is

613
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Speaker 2: worth a half of a cent from nineteen sixty six.

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Speaker 4: For what it's worth, I did all that research on

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Speaker 4: my own, using an inflation calculator and actually found and

616
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Speaker 4: clipped a illustration of a nineteen sixty six penny for

617
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Speaker 4: that tweet. I'm practically ken Burns. You did that whole

618
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Speaker 4: thing that was my documentary about the value of the

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Speaker 4: penny as it was.

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Speaker 2: Compared to nineteen sixty six a random hear you chose

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Speaker 2: el America. No, not at all.

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Speaker 4: I found the precise year that a penny was almost

623
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Speaker 4: was more or less exactly a tenth of what is

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Speaker 4: worth right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's who you're shooting for. We us, Katie.

626
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Speaker 2: The American Revolution started Sunday and it goes all week. Okay.

627
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Speaker 2: So it's on now, and I'm sure you can find

628
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Speaker 2: the older episodes somewhere. So i gotta watch out with

629
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Speaker 2: my son. I'd love to sit down and watch out

630
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Speaker 2: with my son. I've seen some of the previews of

631
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: it and looks absolutely fantastic And despite what you might think,

632
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Speaker 2: having watched the interviews with Ken Burns going around, sounds

633
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: like he's gonna give up pretty good, just general like

634
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: it was, you know, me as a kid lesson in

635
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: the Revolutionary War, and it's importance in the Founding Fathers,

636
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: not some sort of new sixteen nineteen project we should

637
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Speaker 2: be ashamed of ourselves version exactly.

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Speaker 4: That's what everybody's asking, particularly because Ken is a man

639
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Speaker 4: of the left. Yeah, is there gonna be Howard Zinn

640
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: wokeism in it? From what I've heard, no, which is wild.

641
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: How does he keep that out?

642
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: How does he think it's important to keep that out

643
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: of his documentaries which he seems to have Yet in

644
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: his personal life he goes around doing all these interviews

645
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: talking like a progressive. I don't know, we'll have to see.

646
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: Wonder what that is. I wonder why he does that. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: We do a lot of hours, a lot of segments.

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Speaker 2: If you miss one, gets podcast Armstrong and Getty on

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Speaker 2: demand Armstrong and Getty