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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, thirty six,

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Speaker 1: Episode four of Daily See Guys, the production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off

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Speaker 1: the top, fuck the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck

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Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh. Fuck buck Sexton. Uh, it's Friday, June's fifth.

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Speaker 1: What's a buck Sexton? My name? That's that sounds so

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Speaker 1: much like a hardcore porn star. Yeah, but he's actually

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Speaker 1: a conservative talk radio person on iHeart Radio. Looks like

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Speaker 1: um buck Sexton, buck Sexton, piece of ship. Uh, my

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Speaker 1: name's Jack O'Brien ak Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined as always buy my co host, Mr Miles Gray,

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Speaker 1: Miles great, ak, keep your energy going, don't let your

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Speaker 1: pluck energy die out. Allies, we got a long way

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Speaker 1: to go. I'm gonna keep saying that every day because

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Speaker 1: we're man, we're in We're in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: hopefully one of a historical moment in this country. And

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Speaker 1: I think I have always wondered, man, when is my

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Speaker 1: what's like? When am I going to have to do

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Speaker 1: some ship? You know? When am I going to have

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Speaker 1: to like, when am I gonna feel good? I can

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Speaker 1: look back and be like, Yo, back then I was

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Speaker 1: doing the right thing. I think that's right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that's right now. I'm pretty sure it's been

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Speaker 1: right now for a while, but it's really really right now.

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Speaker 1: So hey, hey, punch your ticket to the right side

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Speaker 1: of history. Please. You know you can and you can

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Speaker 1: be And I trust me, I already can see like

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Speaker 1: people sucking. Forty years from now, I'll be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I I marched for black lives and I'll be like, yes, great,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I hope you I hope you still

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Speaker 1: have that energy up now. We're thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite guests here on the Daily Zeitgeist, Maggie

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Speaker 1: mag Ya. Hey, everybody, damn looking at that Mike looks

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Speaker 1: like it's from the future of the movie Wally. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got it at south By Southwest when year was

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Speaker 1: in the gift pack and I never thought, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: never thought it would come in handy and then the

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Speaker 1: world closed. So I feel like a lot of the

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Speaker 1: riot police also look they look like they are a

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Speaker 1: combination of RoboCop and the humans from Wally. Uh. That's

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Speaker 1: been on my mind. Like that dude who's pointing the

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Speaker 1: like hand cannon thing at the at the two year

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Speaker 1: old on his dad's shoulders. Uh, is straight up a

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Speaker 1: human from Wally, like barely able to stand up right.

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Speaker 1: But that is neither here nor there. That's why I

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Speaker 1: love that ice cube tweet. Or just like, yo, if

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Speaker 1: we're out there every day, they have to be out

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Speaker 1: there every day, you know what I mean, and they

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Speaker 1: look at them there there. I've also seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of photos of the most uncomfortable police officers in their

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Speaker 1: like full you know, riot gear, just pouring out buckets

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Speaker 1: of sweat because it's like all like black and plastic

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Speaker 1: and like close to their skins, so they're like microwaving

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Speaker 1: their bodies. But hey, Bacon, whoa, whoa, you get your

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Speaker 1: black fist afro picks out. Jack O'Brien is in the

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Speaker 1: building to see it. I love to see it, bringing

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Speaker 1: the seventh grade anti cop energy. But those have been

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Speaker 1: some of the funniest videos of like people who just

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Speaker 1: put the doughnut on the string with the stick and

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Speaker 1: just walk by, and I'm like, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: it's I saw this one check trying to give flowers

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Speaker 1: to a police officer, and the officer was a woman,

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Speaker 1: and she looked so pissed, like she looked like she

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Speaker 1: or something. But I love to see it. It's now

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Speaker 1: my cell phone, but it's my cell phone background picture. Now. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, Maggie May, We're going to get to know

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Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. Uh, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about if we get to it, we will. I think

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about crisis fatigue, what's actual police

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Speaker 1: reform like that. We're a lot of ideas are being

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Speaker 1: thrown around, but Miles, you put together a really good

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Speaker 1: breakdown of, you know, what what's being put out there

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Speaker 1: because there we go, he's done. Now another another authority

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Speaker 1: figure has criticized one. But the maddest is apparently the

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Speaker 1: new uh, the new Robert Mueller. He's that's just like

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Speaker 1: what centrist used to act, like he did something. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but do you see what he said? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck? Is it? Because they look

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Speaker 1: like their dad's and so like the John's that crooked

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Speaker 1: can't say no to your day because they're they're white bourgeoisie,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, they're from a different world. They're operating

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Speaker 1: a different reality, and like their their proximity to like

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Speaker 1: how white supremacy will always do what it has to

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Speaker 1: do to ensure its existence. So rather than when we're

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Speaker 1: saying defund the police, because we're all looking at that.

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Speaker 1: Their thing is like, well, let's let's ban choke holds.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, okay. There's so many

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Speaker 1: great tweets about this, like where you think people say

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Speaker 1: like hey, like you don't see h you know, pilots

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Speaker 1: there are there. You can't have the bad Apple's theory

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Speaker 1: the stakes are too high. You don't have that with surgeons.

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Speaker 1: You don't have you don't have songs that are called

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Speaker 1: fun the fire department. Like there you've seen all. I've

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Speaker 1: seen all kinds of very brilliant takes like this on

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Speaker 1: what the police are and what people's relationship to the

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Speaker 1: pull pull, that needs to happen. Yeah, that's that is

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Speaker 1: tackle these solutes, like these problems that where they're at

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Speaker 1: it's like not just oh well, you know what. Solomon

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Speaker 1: Georgio had a tweet that he was based saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I had a child daycare run by pedophiles, and

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna fucking trust their children at my daycare center,

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Speaker 1: even if I have ruled, because the premise is fucked. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. The premise of policing is fucked. So

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Speaker 1: handle that. Don't handle all these other manifestations of the fun.

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Speaker 1: Address the fucking the issue in about five minutes, Maggie may.

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Speaker 1: We like to ask our guests, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are. The

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Speaker 1: last thing on my search history was definition of an ally.

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Speaker 1: I looked up ally. Uh, and that's should let you

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Speaker 1: an ally, I'm going to look up the definition of

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Speaker 1: ally and throw that into a conversation. Right, don't get argumentative,

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Speaker 1: that's not what we're here for. Is that coming from

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Speaker 1: a personal experience that you I saw your Twitter? Yeah

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Speaker 1: you did, that came from this morning. Um, I posted

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Speaker 1: something that like, if all you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: but not now this and that. And I was just like,

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Speaker 1: That's where I am got up in arms. I'm an

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Speaker 1: your point and we can deconstruct that because here, here's

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Speaker 1: They have a lifetime of words and justifications built up

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Speaker 1: And it's just not It's not the way to go

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Speaker 1: about it. And in your own space is I don't

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Speaker 1: need I don't need your I don't need the receipts

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Speaker 1: of your emotional labor. And throughout all this, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate I understand where you're coming from because it's like,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna prove that I'm gonna be better because

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Speaker 1: I'm proving I feel bad about this to you, and

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Speaker 1: you can see the proof that I feel bad. Therefore

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Speaker 1: Will you examine my proof with me? Can I will

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Speaker 1: you have things left at your door. Now. I for

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Speaker 1: I remember, like a couple of weeks ago at order

426
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Speaker 1: for from, like this was waiting for this one restaurant

427
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: I always go to, Like they weren't opening and I

428
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: was trying to be like they had no gift cards

429
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: or anything. I was like, what happened? They finally came back.

430
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: I ordered something and I hadn't ordered anything a while,

431
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: and I forgot they leave it at the door, and

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00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: I was like where the fund is that order at

433
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Speaker 1: And I was like, it was just five minutes in

434
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Speaker 1: front of my door, and I was like, right, right, right,

435
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: it's just comes literally there. Now. Yeah, we're still in

436
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Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic. Lest we forget on top

437
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Speaker 1: of all that. Yeah, And finally, Maggie, what's a myth?

438
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: What's something people think is true? You know, to be

439
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: false that reality shows are bad, that they're bad entertainment.

440
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's false, Like they're so necessary. I watched

441
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: so many more reality shows. Now I have a home

442
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: girl that we will watch. We'll get on zoom and

443
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: watch reality shows together because it's like, I have to

444
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: be able to watch someone make a bad decision in

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Speaker 1: their life. I'm at home or during stuff and just

446
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: letting it get left in front of my door. What

447
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: are you watching right now? Oh? I'm watching uh Married

448
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: at First Sight? Oh yes, I'm into uh you. Um.

449
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: I started up with Too Hot to Handle, But that

450
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: show is not too hot. It's so lame. I'm like, not, y'all,

451
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: are that hot? I'm just too cold to watch? Does

452
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean? No? And the whole premise of the show

453
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: is dumb. It's like you can't not first sight is

454
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: it's it becomes like hit or miss sometimes, but when

455
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Speaker 1: those seasons are hitting, I'm like, why did anyone ever

456
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Speaker 1: gree to this? Like Fance, I understand, That's why I

457
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: like it. I get a little international flavor, travel flare

458
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: so much culture clashing uh and other bullshit. But like

459
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: when you watch married at first sight and like you're like,

460
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, this dude is like gaslighting her like constantly,

461
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: and like they're not even and like no one's even

462
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: actually describing that, even like the experts, when I'm like,

463
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: this is not actually okay. They all need their licenses

464
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: taken away. Someone needs to yank Dr Pepper's license. They

465
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: needed to Pastor Calvin's church away from him. It is

466
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: such a bad idea. But like the Australian one. Have

467
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: you seen that one? No, so I just saw. They

468
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: just started putting the AUSSI version of it up even

469
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: funnier because it's it could take me even less out

470
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Speaker 1: of Like sometimes I don't like the American versions of shows,

471
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: but Aussy Mary the first Sight, I haven't been disappointed

472
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Speaker 1: in the first episode. I feel like the Aussy version

473
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: and the UK version of reality shows, it's like somebody

474
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Speaker 1: who's like dabbling in drugs and then goes like hard

475
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: to the hard street drugs. It's like, wait, you're mixing

476
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Speaker 1: the pills with what. It's like those little little anti

477
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: drug things we watched in the nineties where someone took

478
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Speaker 1: one hit of weed and then like all of a sudden, yeah, exactly,

479
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: next thing you know, you're watching Jordy shore Um the

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Speaker 1: statement that the reality TV is necessary, that that is

481
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Speaker 1: uh culturally necessary. It should just be it should just

482
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Speaker 1: be called watch these Idiots TV. It's not reality because

483
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't and I think, I mean, unfortunately,

484
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are watching me like

485
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: cool man, that place looks awesome. But I think really

486
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: the thing that people like we're all watching it for

487
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: is just that satisfaction to know there is someone out

488
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: there making way worse decisions than you are and you

489
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: can and you can then elevate yourself pettily because we

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00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: are so small as we watch you go and I

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: will sit stand upon their shoulders to feel might also

492
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Speaker 1: like we might be quarantine for like what one two years,

493
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: Like no one is getting engaged in this one to

494
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: two years in society like crams. It down a woman's

495
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: throat that you gotta be married by you know, thirty

496
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: forty or whatever. Watching these shows, I do not have

497
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Speaker 1: any desire to go out and get married. Like it

498
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: looks ship like, it does not look fun. And like

499
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: anytime any like anyone who has marriage favor or it

500
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: is like I gotta do this, I gotta make this happen.

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00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 1: Go set your ass in front of a married at

502
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: first sight and see what happens to them. Go google

503
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: what they're up to now and see whether or not

504
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: you want to hit your wagon to somebody just because

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00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: you know you're exactly. It's like I just felt like,

506
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, so many dead in relationships. It's like this

507
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: is it, you know, And that's why I'm just like

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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm just embracing this like experiment like that. Whenever you

509
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: see those people start off that married at first I

510
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: think you're like, this is all bad. Cut to them

511
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: crying like in a tropical resort, like yeah, he just

512
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: said he's not attracted to me. Yeah, I don't know what.

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00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna just laugh because I need this

514
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: right now. I'm at how I'm like, you're so stupid, bitch,

515
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: and I'm eating screaming, I'm eating funans for dinner, like

516
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: spitting the crumbs onto the screen, and I'm so much

517
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: smarter than you. Flag learn to see a red flag.

518
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: It's just funnion chunks of fun flying at your your laptop.

519
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: You're like, my return key doesn't work anymore as funny

520
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: as I got on the key float. All right, guys,

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00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. My four year old just

522
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Speaker 1: entered the studio. I have to go. Baby has entered

523
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: the game. Uh, and then we'll be right back. And

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00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: we're back Ramsey. My four year old is gonna stick

525
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: around for a little bit, so there might be noise

526
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: in the background, but that is uh still in quarantine.

527
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: But he does write my takes. He does little money too.

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Speaker 1: All right, Miles, let's talk about crisis fatigue. This was

529
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: a really good, uh, really good point that you put.

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Speaker 1: This is an article I saw wired um because it

531
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: was just saying, like, crisis fatigue is a thing, and

532
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: it's real, and I think every person knows that the

533
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: last three months have already been difficult, being locked down,

534
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: unable to see loved ones and travel and just sort

535
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: of do what we normally do. And then things completely

536
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: fucking boiled over with all of you know, this like

537
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: group outpouring of their opposition to police brutality and racism

538
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: in this country. So, you know, I think for me personally,

539
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been in like a constant fight

540
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: or flight. The second I wake up, Like I wake

541
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, oh, I can sleep in, and

542
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, my heart's like racing. I need to

543
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: get up and run or something like I actually can't

544
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: even just chill. And I'm realizing, like, yes, I'm stressed.

545
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: But this reading about crisis fatigue very specifically, I think

546
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: it is beneficial because I think we all have some

547
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: version of like unease, unrest, stress, uh, and it's really

548
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: important to to work on that. So um in this

549
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: article they were talking about just basically, you know, we're

550
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: built to have these like high stress situations for like

551
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, That's what our fight or flights about.

552
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: That's what keeps us nimble and alive as we were

553
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: trying to survive. And now it's a little bit different

554
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: now with the way our world is, that ship just

555
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: turns into us boiling over with like super high cortisol

556
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: levels which then rereak havoc on our body. So the

557
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: stress isn't just merely like, oh man, I'm uneasy or whatever, like,

558
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: we have to really be careful, Like every person should

559
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: really be careful because this high amount of stress you're

560
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: feeling can do all kinds of things to your body.

561
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: So your hormones all out of whack, high blood pressure,

562
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: bone law us if you like, you know, if it

563
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: turns into Cushing syndrome. Um, So please take a second,

564
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: because your bodies can also feel the effects of everything

565
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: that's going on, not just our minds. Um, and they

566
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: just really can't. We can't hold this up for so long.

567
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's really important. I just want to say,

568
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are really invigorated right now,

569
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: and there's some people who are like, well, what's next?

570
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: Where do we go today? Who do we yell at now?

571
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Like that is great, but like I was saying a

572
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: few episodes ago, put that ship, keep it on low,

573
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: you keep it hot, but don't put it on don't

574
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: flame the funk out, because my god, there I I'll

575
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: let everybody else speak to how exhausted they are. We

576
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: are all exhausted, but we also need to be really

577
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: careful with ourselves. I think we generally underrate, uh, you know,

578
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: mental health, Like Meg, you're saying that, like you have

579
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, issues or or issues with your immune system

580
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: that are keeping you inside and like away from But

581
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: I think I think we need to be also, you know,

582
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: like Miles set aware of like what we're doing to

583
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: our mental health, like what our mental diet is is

584
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: doing to us, you know, like how we're consuming the

585
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: news Like I don't think I've taken five minutes from

586
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: looking at my phone of the past, you know, yeah,

587
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: four or five days like the past week and a half, like,

588
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's NonStop and it's not

589
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: a it's not good. But I also don't know, like

590
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: I do feel like I need to stay up on it,

591
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: but like I also have not I haven't had the

592
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: thought in my head, like what is this doing to

593
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: me mentally? What is this doing to get people around

594
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: me mentally? Because eventually I probably should. Yeah, eventually your

595
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: own self preservation mechanisms will kick in and you will

596
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: probably disengage for the sake of your health. Like That's

597
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: what the thing is like, and that's really important for

598
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: any kind of advocacy, is to be able to sustain

599
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: it for as long as possible. It's not just its

600
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: advocacy is in a reaction to something. It's you're dedicating

601
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: yourself to changing something. So that's that's why it's not

602
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: you don't you know, don't don't hit a wall on

603
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: the first lap like it's a marathon, and and it's

604
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: just do like the smallest things, because man, I'm like

605
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: forgetting to drink water, I'm forgetting to eat, I'm forgetting

606
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: to fucking chill. I've had to put like literal reminders

607
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: in your phone of like, hey, go pee for a second. Hey,

608
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: go like drink a couple of water, Go have a sandwich,

609
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: do something, have an egg, whatever you need to do,

610
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: because I think that's also those things start going by

611
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: the wayside as well as really like like you're saying, Jack,

612
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: like I know it feels good to be like Okay, man,

613
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: like what happened now? Okay? Now what's going on over here? Now?

614
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Who did the police kill today? Um? Because that's constant already,

615
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: as we've seen with plenty of innocent people already losing

616
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: their lives by just being around and you know, having

617
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: the audacity to exercise their first amend right, Um, so

618
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: limit your news, Like, if this show is the only

619
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: thing you listen to get your fill, then do that.

620
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: Don't then go on Twitter and get sucked into social

621
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: media because it will it will literally burn you the

622
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: funk out. So like it's okay, Like what I do

623
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: is I have to put the at five o'clock. So

624
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: the last time I checked the news, like by the

625
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: East Coast it's eight. They know what's up. I've pretty

626
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: much figured out what's happening locally. Just don't check. Like,

627
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: have a hard news cut off time for yourself. I

628
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: have a be hours before you eat dinner and go

629
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: to bed, Like, let that be an untainted segment of

630
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: your day because trust me, if you really care about this,

631
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna be up just with everybody else being like okay,

632
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: what's going on? Like I feel like something can be done,

633
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like, on top of that, a lot

634
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: of it is feelings based, Like because I mean, you

635
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Speaker 1: saw a snuff film. Everyone has a visceral reaction to it.

636
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: Everyone's already feeling a bunch of things. But it's like,

637
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: can't run it off of your feelings or else it's

638
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: never going to be a sustain movement. You know, people

639
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: are not going to stay. You know, the Ring wasn't

640
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: as scary the second time you watched it, Like it's

641
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: not gonna give you the same kind of thing. But then,

642
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: like everyone getting up in their feelings too is a

643
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: problem because like that's not how you run any Like

644
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: nothing ever changes by feeling that things change by action.

645
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: And so I feel like people are getting the feelings

646
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: and not doing anything, and so they feel crazy because

647
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: they're like I feel all this stuff and there's nothing

648
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: of that can It's like, slow down and chill. Realize

649
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: that your feelings are not going to push this forward,

650
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: and realize that you know, two years from now, when

651
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: you're still fighting this fight, you're not going to feel

652
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: the same, but you still have the obligation of fighting,

653
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: right or Listen why people will immediately say I'm not

654
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: going to vote for a candidate because this is their

655
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: record on these issues, you know what I mean? Because

656
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: at a certain level, when you get when you beat

657
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: these things, you really start trying to figure out how

658
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: to solve these things. Too. You also have to look

659
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: at who the people are that are in power and

660
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: what there you know, record of behavior is on these

661
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: kinds of things and how how far they are willing

662
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: to go to address the problems, because I think the

663
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: issue has been I think that's what this A lot

664
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: of this too, is a reaction to all this incremental change.

665
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: When we all knew with Obamacare it should have been

666
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Medicare for all, you know what I mean, and it

667
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: turned into a private insurance exchange. And then with other bills,

668
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, with Dreamers and things like that,

669
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: we knew what it should have been. It shouldn't have been.

670
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: We could, we should have just given these people the

671
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: citizenship that they deserve. But we're doing incrementally, and I

672
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: think that's why every group has seen incremental change, but

673
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: they all know what the solutions are. So it's always like,

674
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: why are we waiting for these fucking old ass white

675
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: people to figure it out? Because we're the ones that

676
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: are living it and we already know what the solution is.

677
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: So if your record is like not prosecuting cops when

678
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: they kill people, I'm gonna be like, yo, see no, no no, no,

679
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: that's that's the mentality you see that that allows this

680
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: to go on. So I need somebody who said I

681
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: was I was ran out on a rail as d

682
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: A because I prosecuted too many cops in my first term.

683
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, I like that because you already knew

684
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: what it was. You said, Oh, yeah, I'm just I'm

685
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: here to protect people. Oh what are they doing? Oh

686
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: they're there to not piss off the policeman's union and

687
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: then start the flow, stop the flow of contributions and

688
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: independent expenditures that help them not. Come on, now, come on,

689
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: come on, let's talk about let's talk about how let's

690
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: talk about like specifically, what the reforms are that people

691
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 1: should be looking for, because you know, I've heard things

692
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 1: like defund the police um and immediately been like, well

693
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: do we so there's no lease anymore? Like what what

694
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: is We're all just fine, I'll go I'll go coming hood,

695
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: I'll arm myself. Superheroes, only the Hollywood Boulevard superheroes. But

696
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: the more niking about that, the more you read about that,

697
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: the more it's like, oh, that is actually like a

698
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: no brainer like change that we should all be pushing for. Uh.

699
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: And it's just but it's probably something that a lot

700
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: of people think sounds too extreme for them. So I

701
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: do think that that's something that's probably worth kind of

702
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: digging into UH today in the coming days. So I

703
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: think at this point we can all agree that the

704
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: police are merely just an overfunded gang that exists to

705
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: harass poor people and you know, kick people off private property.

706
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: That's really and then do some solve a couple of

707
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: crimes here and there. But I think a lot of

708
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: people have seen the evidence of how the police interact

709
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: with the public, and at the very least they go

710
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: that relationship seems a bit off, that relationship is not right. Okay,

711
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: So then let's take that point right, that the relationship

712
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: is off. Now we have to keep going further back

713
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: and say, well, that's because the relationship of the way

714
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: the police, the law enforcement is created now in the

715
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: system of policing we have now, is only meant to

716
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: perpetuate that kind of relationship of hostility. It's not to

717
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: protect and serve. That's just written on the cars. What

718
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: you've seen is people just get bodied by Jake uh

719
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: or beaten with batons or whatever for for what. Okay,

720
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people like this is

721
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: a lot do they need all of this, like what's

722
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: going on? So we have to talk about like what

723
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: is actually going to really change these things? And we

724
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: talked about the big white supremacy is the always the

725
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: big picture issue here, that's what policing is. But we

726
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: can let's that's a huge bite to take out, So

727
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: let's try and make it about what actually what are

728
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: tangible things? Right? So what are tangible things that will

729
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: help when we're talking about reforming police funding or whatever?

730
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Is like we should support things like this, anything that

731
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: offers reparations to victims of police violence and their families.

732
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: That's the first thing. Create like financial of vulnerability and

733
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: accountability for these these places, because right now it isn't.

734
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: They're also like support proposals that talk about um requiring

735
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: police officers to have their own liability insurance so they

736
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: have to they got to come out of pocket if

737
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: they brutalize somebody or kill them that they're covered. Okay,

738
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: So it's not the city then making you because guess what,

739
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: this is a serious job. And these are all from

740
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: from activists Miriam Kabo, who's from prison culture, who you

741
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: know writes a lot and is an advocate for prison reform. Um.

742
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: These are all things that we can be doing from

743
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: her writing, and that's in the footnotes. Um, the other

744
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: things that can be done, Okay, proposals in legislation to

745
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: like redirect all of our funds from the police department

746
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: and the prison system to social goods, right, because if

747
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: people aren't supported in their communities, they become desperate. And

748
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: that's why when people go, I don't understand why they

749
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: have to be in a gang because there's no opportunity,

750
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: there's no support, or why are they Why are people violent?

751
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you need you need, you need actual assistance with

752
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: your mental health, but you're left to be on the

753
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: street and you're fending for yourself in a really awful environment.

754
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: That's why. So those are the kinds of things that

755
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, if those are there, typically, uh, the police

756
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: don't have to show up as first responders because we

757
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: have social workers there. Like, it has a lot in

758
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: common with the military industrial complex, where so many people

759
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: are making making money off of like things being bad

760
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: and relationships being bad between countries, and so they get

761
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: to keep funding the military so that they can like

762
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: feed on the fear and it just like kind of

763
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: feeds back on itself. I feel like the same thing

764
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: is happening here. Absolutely, the pops have to be justified

765
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: and being like, well, they're evil out there, out there bad,

766
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: and the cops are just they are the ones who

767
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: get everything. I don't know if it's kind of like

768
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: you know when houses like it's not Lupus is a

769
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: catch all and that's how the cops. I got lupus,

770
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: But the cops are kind of a catch all. Like, uh,

771
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: funding for to help with homelessness, half of that was

772
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: just for cops sweeps yea, you know they anything that

773
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: goes wrong is like the cops are responsible to take

774
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: care of that. But at the same time they're not

775
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: getting training. I used to work as a transcription is

776
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: for the Health and Human Services Commission in Texas, and

777
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: like with my own black fingers, I would type like, yeah,

778
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: cops don't know how to deal with mental health problems.

779
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: Cops are not being trained to deal with mental health problems.

780
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: Cops are fucking up mental health um issues. Cops are

781
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: fucking up like those what do they call them wellness checks?

782
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that a lot of people with mental issues

783
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: are getting suicided by cop because the cop is not

784
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: trained to deal with someone in that kind of de escalate.

785
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: They're not training to de escalate a problem. Well, and

786
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the other important thing, because that's why

787
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: we're always saying the problem actually is the modern policing,

788
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: modern law enforcement, that is the problem. There's no we

789
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: have not seen one thing. Yes, you have videos, whoa

790
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: that white officer can can break dance at the cook

791
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's propaganda, that's copaganda. That's because I can show

792
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: you fifty videos of them beating the ship out of

793
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: black people. Um. And if you look at just sort

794
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: of how these hours break down of what it means comparatively,

795
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: right in like North Carolina, it takes you need six

796
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: hours to be a police officer with you have a gun,

797
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: right and you can take somebody's life. To be a

798
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: licensed barber in North Carolina, you need hours of training.

799
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: The disparity and training is another huge issue. Like in California,

800
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: it's like something like six hundred sixty hours a cosmatologist

801
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: they need SI. So already, like, look at how we're

802
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: sending these people out. It's just made so they can

803
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: crank out a bunch of uniforms and justify increasing budgets

804
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: saying we need more cops, we need more things. Crimes

805
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: going down. So I was like, Okay, what can we do.

806
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: Let's her ask poor people because the state isn't taking

807
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: care of them, so we can criminalize their them being destitute.

808
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: And that's another way to say, we need more cops,

809
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: you need more training, we need more sweeps, we need

810
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: this other stuff. So these are sort of things to

811
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: keep in mind now. I think when the reforms that

812
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: you also see people proposed, like in l A, when

813
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: gar studies like, hey, we found like five percent of

814
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: that budget to take out Okay, nice try, that's not

815
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: even close to what we're talking about. But if you

816
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: see proposals that are saying like they want more money

817
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: to the police, you want to be against that. Okay,

818
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: let's get that right. Okay, are cameras more money for

819
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: if it's for technology, you should oppose that because, like

820
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: you're saying, those body cams, they're not turning them on,

821
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: so they're just expensive pieces of ship that hang off

822
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: their chests. What probably is happening is they will use

823
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: other ship like facial recognition technology two. That's already we've

824
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: talked about how biased algorithms are, especially with faces of

825
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: of like African Americans in this country. It's it's not

826
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna work. So if it's about more money for technology,

827
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: get it the funk out of here. If they're asking for, um,

828
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: like more police money so they can have more kinds

829
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: of policing opposed that ship so um any other reforms

830
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: that are just sort of like, you know, are we

831
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna have like let's have let's have dialogue. No, we're past,

832
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: and I think right now we're seeing this new thing

833
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: eight can't wait from the campaign zero, which I think

834
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what this what they're proposing is bad.

835
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting. They're using data to try

836
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: and determine really small steps that can actually create a huge,

837
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: uh what they believe is a huge impact on the

838
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: amount of police brutality. So the eight things are require

839
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: officers to de escalate situations. Require officers to intervene. Require

840
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: officers to give a verbal warning before using force. Okay,

841
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: restrictor prohibit chokeholds and strangleholds. Profit Prohibit officers from shooting

842
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: at moving vehicles. Require officers to exhaust all other options,

843
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: use a continuum of force. Require comprehensive reporting. See now

844
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: this sounds great, but in my mind, I'm like, they're

845
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: not doing this already, so then this is out the window. Yeah,

846
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: what we require them to do the the obvious right thing,

847
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: like and it just seems like in the wrong hands,

848
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: they will find a way around the Like in any company,

849
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: in any organization, Like there's ways to get around like

850
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: the metrics, or to juice the metrics in one direction.

851
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Like back at Cracked, there was a thing where like

852
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: our parent company wanted a lot of page views, so

853
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: we like started splitting articles up over different pages. And

854
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: it's just like it was a bullshit thing that we

855
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: did just to like hit that one metric that they

856
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: wanted us to hit. It didn't do anything. It didn't

857
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: add any value for the consumer. It didn't add like

858
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: it was just ki Yeah, and like this is just

859
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: putting metrics in place in a system that is not

860
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: being reformed in a meaningful way, like the data transparency

861
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: on stops, arrest, budgeting weapons. Like that's the sort of

862
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: like hard and it needs to be coming from outside

863
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: of the police force. It can't just be we want

864
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: you guys to try to make these changes, require officers

865
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: to intervene, Like what the what practically would that look like?

866
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: Like what the funk are you talked up your frat

867
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: brothers from doing keg stands bros. Yeah, it does sound

868
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: like that. It sounds like some ship that you would

869
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: like here in a not serious like that's what I'm saying,

870
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Like this should already be happening, That's what I'm saying.

871
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: We're pat you know, this should have been things that

872
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: I think would have been great in the sixties, but

873
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: we're in now. So you've made your point. You shouldn't

874
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: exist anymore as an entity that enforces the law. That's

875
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: been very clear at least this form of law enforcement

876
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: and these kinds of reforms that people propose are bad

877
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: because it allows for this bad apple theory to continue

878
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: because you're like, you're seeing because this we're taking care

879
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: of the bad apples with this, because see, the bad apples,

880
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: like the good ones don't need to be told this,

881
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: but I guess we gotta told the bad apples. You

882
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: gotta warn them you don't do these choke holds because

883
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: of the bad apples. And that completely takes the emphasis

884
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: off the fact that this policing system is oppressive, violent

885
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: um and the only thing they're here is a is

886
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: a mechanism to control like weak people. That's all it

887
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: is because look what happens. We saw it, and I'll

888
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: say it, every time you saw white people was full

889
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: up tap gear and assault rifles at the State cap

890
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: it all, and everyone's like, hey, alright, guys, just chill out.

891
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: People are out in the streets. Poor people too, are

892
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: asking for their equality, and it's like send them in, baby,

893
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: because you know what the this is because that thing

894
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: needs to the next thing and next thing. You know,

895
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna turn my mega billion dollar apartment complex into

896
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: affordable housing that ain't happening. And then on top of that,

897
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: like all of these ways to reduce police brutality, this

898
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: is all honor system stuff, because are you gonna tell

899
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: me that the officer is gonna be like, oh, yeah,

900
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: I didn't give a verbal warning. They'll be like I

901
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: gave a verbal warning and then they threw a thing

902
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: a cocaine at me and so I had to shoot them.

903
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: Like like, all of this requires us to believe that

904
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: the cops are doing this and they're not doing this,

905
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: and this is just common sense stuff, so like of

906
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: course they're gonna of course they're gonna lie about this. Yeah,

907
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: it's just I mean that this disingenuous. I mean, not

908
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: that it's disingenuous, but I feel like this is the

909
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: mindset right where people say and I get it, like

910
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: this is good. I don't think these I don't think

911
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: this is evil to propose this, but I think it's

912
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: a mindset that we have to begin to abandon, which

913
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: is like, well, not too much out at once. But

914
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: the problem is we're on fire right now, So don't

915
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: just put my foot out, but extinguish my whole fucking body.

916
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: What the fund is wrong with you? Why are we

917
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: doing that? You know, him on fire, You saw the threat.

918
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: So what's the point of doing this incrementally? What is

919
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: the point If you're really about this and you're saying

920
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: this is awful, and I want to, I want to,

921
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, erase the evidence of police brutality. Then you

922
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: have to get to the cause of it, the police. Yeah,

923
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean this is we have the Washington Post writing

924
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: articles about how this is America's French Revolution, like we

925
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: have you know, this is a time. This is not

926
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: the time to ask for incremental like surface level cover

927
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: up changes like this is the time to get systematic,

928
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: deep changes that won't allow the police to continue to

929
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: be a a tool to enforce white supremacy and you know, classism.

930
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: And they say, oh, what should we do, say listen

931
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: to black people. What are you saying, defund the police,

932
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: get rid of the police, right? Do it? You said

933
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: you asked what you could do, telling you listen, that's

934
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: what we're saying. So what's the we're not saying let's

935
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: chokes please out of here. Man. It's like, so if

936
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: you can get me a verbal before you hit me,

937
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: go ahead and give me an audible before I get

938
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: my ass kicked. So then let's just get on the

939
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: same page. And again, I think the first thing everyone's

940
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: actually like, no, police didn't say anarchy. Now we're not

941
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: saying there's no mechanisms to protect people. That's no. What

942
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: we're saying is we actually want that when people who

943
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: will protect people, not people who get who squat up

944
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: in their cars and patrol the streets and be like,

945
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: what are you doing over there? While you're sleeping over there?

946
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Loses going on, what are you kids doing over why?

947
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: Smoking over in this neighbor in this car? Who's this kid? Oh?

948
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: You got one white kid with you? Okay, okay, right,

949
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, but that's that's how the police think right now,

950
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: Like we need people to drive around and be like whoa, hey, sir,

951
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: are you okay? Look? Do you need shoes? Hey? Came here,

952
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: come here, you need something? Yes, I'm the police, but

953
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: I also here to help people. Oh my god, sir,

954
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: you're having it seems like you're having some kind of episode. Sir.

955
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: Do you have medication that you take? Okay? Please sit down?

956
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: Please put that bottle down, sir? Okay, okay, I won't

957
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: come near you, but please just I'll stand I will

958
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: stand here. You can hold that bottle there. But I

959
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: want to call some people because I want to make

960
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: sure you're safe. Is that okay? Can I call somebody? Great?

961
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: Like that's what That's how the interaction should be. It

962
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: should always be like, are you okay? Now? What the

963
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: funk are you doing? That? That seems so obvious but

964
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: so far from where we are, right But that's I

965
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: think that is the that's the image of police that

966
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: we're all taught as kids. That's the image of police

967
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: that everyone always gets is the guy that's here to

968
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: be nice, to be sweet, And that's just not what's

969
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: out there, right, I get that in your yet neighborhood

970
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: watch meetings, or you have like that one officer who

971
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: lets the kids sit in the squad car and they're like,

972
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: oh wow. Yeah. Meanwhile, I see that same cop when

973
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm sixteen and like they're working with me. But look,

974
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm with some white kids willing weed in the car

975
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: and it was fine. But I was like, oh my god,

976
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: that's fucking you were my community. Wow, and you're right

977
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: here acting like a fucking dick. Dude. Cool, m hm,

978
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: That's all it is. We just wants we just wants

979
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: protection service. You know. All right, let's take a quick

980
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: break when we'll be back to wrap things up, and

981
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: we're back, and really, briefly, Maddess said, Trump is the

982
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: danger to the constitution. The mainstream media seems to be

983
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: of the opinion that this is this is what we needed.

984
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: This is going to be the thing that takes him down.

985
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram criticizing him here and there what's his name?

986
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson criticizing him while still upholding what supremacy. Those

987
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: are the things that are going to uh really take

988
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: it to him. And you know, I'll buy it when

989
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: he's out of office without bloodshed. I don't I don't know.

990
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't see it happening. Well, I don't know what

991
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this is all those like really defeated

992
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: senators like it's they know, well, not that it's it's

993
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: to me, it's encouraging that their brand could get so

994
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: fucked up that maybe like there's a chance that a

995
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: lot of people would just be like, dude, I'm not

996
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: voting for these republic What the funk was that? I mean,

997
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: that's an injury world. But on some level we always

998
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: talk about this and like when is he When are

999
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: they going to realize they've the brand is fully fucked? Yeah,

1000
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna just ride this one out because my god,

1001
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: like I said, punch your ticket to the right side

1002
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: of history. They're gonna what the funk are y'all doing?

1003
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: But like I said, like we said, white supremacy is

1004
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: a death cult. So if if you're not willing to

1005
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: unshackle yourself from it, then yeah, I guess you will

1006
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: be like yeah, Like they all look like I guess

1007
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: either they saw how ugly their lack of courage was

1008
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: or they were like, I guess I'm gonna die. I

1009
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: guess I'm going down with the ship. Bucket. I mean,

1010
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of really hard to deny things about

1011
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: like his photo op after you know, destroying a bunch

1012
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: of peaceful protests with tear gas. That's a tough one,

1013
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: tough look to be on the same side as that.

1014
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: But there's just too many things working in his favor.

1015
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he there's white supremacy. Is like the death

1016
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: cult that this country has founded on. Trump has like

1017
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: a literal death cult. Uh, that he is the messiah

1018
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: of called Cuna. He's the boss of our country in

1019
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: a country that fetishizes boss bosses. And you know, all

1020
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: the people trying to take him down and criticizing him

1021
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: are either bureaucrats or former bureaucrats in a country that

1022
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, despises bureaucrats in a bone deep the e

1023
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: p A is the villain and ghostbusters way like bureaucrats

1024
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: are who were taught to hate and that that's not

1025
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna that's not gonna bring an end to this. Like

1026
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: there's by all means, let's let's keep amplifying that. I'm

1027
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying that's not what Mattis should be doing.

1028
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think we can rest on that the way,

1029
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: we've in the past made the mistake of resting on

1030
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: Muller or you know whoever the next Great Technocrats, Saviors, Miles.

1031
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: Do we want to do any rewatches over the weekend?

1032
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: Give people something that I'm gonna I'm gonna needs some

1033
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: kind of eye bleach ie bleach. All right, let me

1034
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: read through. What is the top ten on Netflix? Uh?

1035
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: We got Space Force at number one? We watch I'll

1036
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: watch that. I'll watch that. Okay, Space four, Full air

1037
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: House at number three, watch that too, sweet Macnully? Is

1038
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: it Avatar? Now? This one's interesting. The Help is the

1039
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: number six trending piece of content on Netflix. I think

1040
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that from the perspective of like a

1041
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: study in what we've been talking about over the past

1042
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: couple of days of like how white supremacy manifests itself

1043
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: in white people's minds. Because I don't know who wrote it,

1044
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: I know who directed it, Catherine Stock It Catherine Stock.

1045
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: It grew up in Jackson, Mississippi. And Clueless the Healer

1046
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 1: on Gems and Riverdale are also trending. But I think

1047
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: so you're gonna do uh, Space Force, Space Force, Space Force,

1048
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: Fuller House, Uncle Gems well, you're given, you're given our

1049
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: audience a lot of a lot of homework that they

1050
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: have no space force. I think, you know, I want

1051
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: to see Tony in there and I'll see what like

1052
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: the kind of minds of the office are doing now

1053
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: in this context. Yeah, well, I'll do the help. We

1054
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Speaker 1: won't do quite as deep a dive as we've done

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Speaker 1: in the past because there's gonna be too much to

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Speaker 1: talk about other other than the help. But we'll, we'll,

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Speaker 1: we'll for five minutes. White Guilt could only get to

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Speaker 1: number six on the Netflix starts. Come on, y'all, did

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Speaker 1: they just release it? Or is it just that much?

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Speaker 1: That's wild because like right underneath it, like in my

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Speaker 1: watch it again, it's but that's not on there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: would say to anybody, if you haven't seen The Thirteenth

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Speaker 1: on Netflix, you should absolutely watch that. Um. Look, all

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Speaker 1: of this historical action we're taking is about really confronting

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Speaker 1: all these things. And I think I'm just gonna get

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Speaker 1: into this other piece I was gonna try and talk about.

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Speaker 1: But when I look on like right wing Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: I look at a lot of comments of like, uh,

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Speaker 1: conservative sort of defending, like why they don't need to

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Speaker 1: change right now. The common themes that keep seeing are

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Speaker 1: I don't have to feel bad for these people because

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Speaker 1: I didn't personally own slaves. I think that's one of

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Speaker 1: the prevailing things I see. Also see these people want

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Speaker 1: to live like that, and they just want to mooch

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Speaker 1: off the system, um and then the other thing. Then

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Speaker 1: they bolster that by saying I know this because I

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Speaker 1: see in it with my own eyes, or I work

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Speaker 1: with these people. And these are fantastic arguments as to

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Speaker 1: why you shouldn't examine your own behavior. Absolutely a great,

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Speaker 1: a great reasons to be like, man, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: do any kind of close self examination after that. But

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Speaker 1: I think the real burden for these people is to

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Speaker 1: avoid having to realize that what they think is wrong

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Speaker 1: and may have actually been wrong this whole time. All

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Speaker 1: of these are self preservation mechanisms, because if you say, wait,

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Speaker 1: I have to feel bad for these people even though

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Speaker 1: I didn't own slaves. Wait, these people don't want to

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Speaker 1: live like that and they don't want to mooch off

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Speaker 1: the system. But that's what my dad told me, and

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Speaker 1: my dad was a good guy. I think I'm not

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Speaker 1: racist normally, like, but that's what I was told. So

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Speaker 1: if I'm so, then the mental path goes So if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong about this race stuff, does that mean I'm evil?

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Speaker 1: And then because that's the logical thing, and then boom,

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Speaker 1: self preservation has to kick in and says, of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm not evil. Funk with these people are talking about

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Speaker 1: because if that what they say is true, that means

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Speaker 1: I'm bad and I'm not bad, you know, and that's

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Speaker 1: not And I think that's the thing that people need

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Speaker 1: to begin reframing to others when they're trying to communicate

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Speaker 1: and saying, take it like, it's okay that you I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not okay that you thought that, but that if

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01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do something, you have to realize that

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01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: those thoughts don't serve you and they don't reflect reality.

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Speaker 1: And if fact, in fact, they're holding you back and

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Speaker 1: they're holding other people back. That's all it is, and

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Speaker 1: that's how and that's just how our minds work. We

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: always have to find a way to present preserve our

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Speaker 1: egos and make sure that we're like, you know, not

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Speaker 1: doing a bad thing. But then if that sense of

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Speaker 1: self is threatened then we just start doubling down on

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Speaker 1: that bad behavior because the other option is real, real introspection.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to do that. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: double down to the point that I would just kill

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Speaker 1: my fellow human being who's innocent, because I've doubled down

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Speaker 1: on this thinking so much every time someone tells me

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Speaker 1: it's not right, I'm gonna double down on that now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you it's it's actually everything I

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Speaker 1: think is right, and it's a hard place to dig

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Speaker 1: yourself out of. But we're not after people's guilt. So

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Speaker 1: when people are like, well, I don't have to feel

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Speaker 1: bad for these people, I'm not. Look fucking we We've

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Speaker 1: experienced what people feeling bad does. It only leads to

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Speaker 1: like lame diversity hires and sort of like small pittances

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Speaker 1: into like these diversity funds or whatever. Like, it's not

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: the guilt, it's it's about changing your heart and your mind.

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Speaker 1: That is what the real that's where the juice is

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01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: and all this, and that's again, you want to be

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Speaker 1: able to say good for you if you look back

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Speaker 1: and go fuck bro, yikes, I was thinking that ship. Yikes.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm glad I can say yikes to that.

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Speaker 1: Holy sh it, I'm fucking I'm a new I'm like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: I'm me three point oh four point oh. Allow yourself

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Speaker 1: to make a mistake. It's not that you're evil, because

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: you have to understand, like all of this ship has

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: been mainlined into our brains through the media and everything.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Like if if you're you know, reasonable enough

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: to believe that like the depictions of uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: violence in film or something, or like how men are

1141
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: supposed to behave in film can contribute to fucking skewed

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: ideas of masculinity, then you should, damn we'll be able

1143
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: to hop on the train that white supremacy. You can

1144
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: also infiltrate your mind in very subtle ways too, because

1145
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: you might be like, oh shit, I didn't think I

1146
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: looked at my body because because of that movie or

1147
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: whatever this person or with this poster, you don't think

1148
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: white supremacy is entering your mind in the same way.

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01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: So take the time to just fucking deconstruct that ship.

1150
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: But just take the time. We can just be aware.

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: We're not after the guilt or after the awareness, So

1152
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: then you can fucking white supremacy ends when people actually

1153
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Speaker 1: be like white. Oh, I know what it is and

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Not just like I know it exists. Oh,

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01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm experiencing it. I'm purple. Oh just awareness. See,

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: everybody is too afraid of being wrong. Is the thing.

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to admit I was wrong.

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't have to have to admit that I have

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Speaker 1: a leg up. I don't want to have to admit

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Speaker 1: that there are people who don't get the same opportunity.

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01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of an asterisk on some

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Speaker 1: of my achievements. People don't want to say, like my

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01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: past was. But it's like how many people are ashamed

1164
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: at shifting in a diaper at one point in your life.

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01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: We used to do that before you knew any better.

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: Now you know better, Now you do better, hopefully, But

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01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: like it's just it's so mind boggling how people tie

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01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: their whole sense of self into I was wrong at

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01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: this one time, and it's so much easier for them

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Speaker 1: to just justify their actions, even like retroactively justify, which

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: is hella embarrassing for them to like go ahead and

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01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: make excuses for something when you could easily do what

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Speaker 1: I said and apologize and move on from it. Right.

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01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: I used to have a Red Yankees fitted hat like Fred. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I've come back all right, and I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not afraid to admit that. In fact, I'm proud that

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Speaker 1: I saw the light and drink the hot dog flavored

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: water and ate the chocolates. Start. But that's that's inspiring

1179
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: because being up here right now in a puka shell

1180
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Speaker 1: necklace and you're not doing that, You've moved right exactly.

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: You look at that and be like, oh, But I

1182
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: think the thing is people should have a soft touch,

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01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: because I see people screaming at each other about it

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01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, I'm telling you, you can

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01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: open someone's mind a lot easier if you are so calm.

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01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: It's so off putting, yeah, because they're used to being

1187
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: like you're wrong that just if you if you come

1188
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: at somebody aggressive, they have to be defensive. That's just

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Speaker 1: how it is, that's just how we work. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have your fist cocked, I'm gonna put my dukes

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01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: up and we're scrapping. But if you come up with

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: your hands to your side, you're like, hey, hey, how

1193
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: you doing Are you doing? Hey? Man? So I want

1194
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this stuff that's going on

1195
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: with this white supremacy thing, like I just want I

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Speaker 1: just want you know, I'm just trying to be aware

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Speaker 1: of it. It's really interesting how I've realized how things

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Speaker 1: have informed how that's happened to me. Um, And I

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Speaker 1: just was I'm just hoping that you can also do

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Speaker 1: that and they go, oh, oh what, I don't care

1201
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: those people are wrong. Just leave that, yeah, come come

1202
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: back again and just do it like that because eventually

1203
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna it'll be so weird where they're like damn,

1204
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: Like they're always so calm talking to you like that,

1205
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: and I'm always I hear screw dreaming. It's like why

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: am I screaming? Mm hmm. But again that also takes

1207
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: self awareness, but soft touch also works. Maggie has been

1208
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: so wonderful having you. Uh. Where can people find you

1209
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: and follow you? Uh? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Well,

1210
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Speaker 1: you can find me on pretty much all the socials

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Speaker 1: that Maggie may ha ha may have spelled m A

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Speaker 1: y e so m a g g i E m

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Speaker 1: A y e and ha ha um tweet that I

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Speaker 1: loved this week came from Solomon Georgio, um, which he's

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Speaker 1: been so great. Everything he tweets is just a work

1216
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Speaker 1: of art, Like I love how his brain works. But

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Speaker 1: he tweeted, imagine living in a country that took months

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Speaker 1: to respond to a pandemic and seconds to militarize the

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Speaker 1: police against its citizens. Mm hmm amazin mhm. That would

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Speaker 1: be wild. Wait that's now, oh oh shit, alright, so

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: he can't miss miles? Where can people find you? And

1222
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You could find me

1223
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: follow me, Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Gray, and

1224
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: on my other podcast, Fiance where we talk about Fiance

1225
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: getting super lifted. A few tweets I like a few

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Speaker 1: one a few, man. First one's from Wendy Molling. You

1227
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: at Wendy Molling. He says, congrats to Harvey Weinstein for

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Speaker 1: having his op ed piece. Quote. On the other hand,

1229
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: look at those titties accepted by the New York Times,

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01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: oh ship. Another one is from Reductress. It has a

1231
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: get very concerned wine mom with a hoodie on, like

1232
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: fleece hoodie looking face and says five things protesters can

1233
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Speaker 1: do to make me, the white lady watching at home

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: more comfortable, because I think that's kind of that is

1235
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: such a real sentiment right now. But people are just like, oh,

1236
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm just so put off by it now. I don't

1237
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: like human rights right What is enough? Is enough? I mean,

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: we get it, we get it. We're not gonna do

1239
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 1: anything about it. Uh you can find me on Twitter

1240
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Uh Jesus Nice tweeted, Uh, something

1241
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 1: that I actually didn't know. I had always heard that

1242
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Speaker 1: uh old dirty bastard got into a gunfight with the NYPD.

1243
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that he just got shot at by

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Speaker 1: eight cops. Um and all he had was a cell phone. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: that's I guess a piece of white supremacy propaganda that

1246
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: got into my into my head. Um. And then that's wild.

1247
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: I really thought as it, like the anecdotal thing you

1248
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: heard was like, yeah, you're going a gunfight with cops.

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: He was just ya, Wow, the ship You still to

1250
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: learn in your fucking thirty five learning about this ship now?

1251
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: Uh Tall Paul tweeted, why are people scared of riots

1252
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: and louding? The flu kills way more people every year.

1253
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: Uh and um, yeah, that's plenty. Oh and Jordan Peels tweeted, oh,

1254
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: does this mean we're going to get to hear from

1255
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks? Um? Because? Oh? And Colleen tweeted, Uh,

1256
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: Tom Cotton is as close to having a senator named

1257
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Speaker 1: Jim Crow as reality would allow. God Jesus Uh. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zekeeys for the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zekeys on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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Speaker 1: our episode and our footnotes where we link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as the song we write out on Miles Wood.

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna be today? Hold on, let me shut

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Speaker 1: my togo ramb. A lot of the young members of

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Speaker 1: our households coming in and messing with the recording for

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Speaker 1: the all right, let's go out on a track from

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Speaker 1: Alice Coltrane, the wife of John Coltrane. But not only that,

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Speaker 1: she's actually accomplished pianist, organist, harpist, vocalists in her own right.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize she's amazing. Also flying

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Speaker 1: lotuses ont okay, So there's like some little connective tissue two. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is a track from her that has like this

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Speaker 1: such I don't know, like I need dream world vibes

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Speaker 1: right now and her heart mixed with like the jazz

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Speaker 1: players she's playing. It's fantastic. This is called Journey and

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Speaker 1: said Chanda uh and yeah, this is Alice Cold Trane.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna write out on that. The Daily

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Speaker 1: zey guys, is the production of I Heart Radio for

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Speaker 1: this morning. Will be back this afternoon to tell you

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