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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition. Almost lost at their

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Speaker 1: Clay Wednesday editions. Clay Travis said Buck Sexton Show, we

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Speaker 1: got to start with the right day. Very important, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of news going on, so lots are breeding

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Speaker 1: on things breaking, things happening. We are excited to speak

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Speaker 1: so thank you for being here with us. Some important

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Speaker 1: every one of us. We've also got President Trump weighing

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Speaker 1: in and the DOJ saying that there will be swift

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Speaker 1: consequences in the case of Irena who was stabbed to

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Speaker 1: death in Charlotte. We've been talking a lot about that

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Speaker 1: horrific case this week. Also the case of the retired

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Speaker 1: woman stabbed to death. People looking at that case and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: there's no video of it, so it doesn't have that

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Speaker 1: same visual impact, but the details of that are are

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Speaker 1: every bit as horrific. It's And there's another case in

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Speaker 1: New York City that I'm going to tell you about

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Speaker 1: that just happened. I'm not going deep into the archives.

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Speaker 1: Another instance of the failure of the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, the perpetrator is still at large.

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Speaker 1: Double a double murder committed in New York City. We'll

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Speaker 1: of the hour, most likely. And Clay, We've got also

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's book is out. We will have some fun

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Speaker 1: discussing this, and she takes some shots at Biden, which

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Speaker 1: we knew was going to happen, because Heaven forbid Kamala

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Speaker 1: was only ninety days or something, but still the worst

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Speaker 1: ninety day campaign imaginable. We will discuss that, have some

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Speaker 1: fun getting into all of it. But I wanted to

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Speaker 1: start off with some of the economic numbers because there's

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Speaker 1: anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something Clay,

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Speaker 1: say we haven't discussed it enough. But we certainly could

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Speaker 1: spend even more time on housing. Affordability in this country

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Speaker 1: based on the cost of buying a new home in general,

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Speaker 1: double the money you did. What in twenty nineteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty hasn't been that long a pre pandemic versus now

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Speaker 1: and immediate home prices. I'm talking nationwide, whether you live

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Speaker 1: home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people priced out of the market.

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Speaker 1: So we got big problems there. Good things, though, are

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Speaker 1: happening in the economy, and let's talk first about where

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Speaker 1: wholesale prices are. Here go CNBC's Santelly Clay talking about

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Speaker 1: where inflation is, where prices are Play clip one.

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Speaker 2: PPI postsale inflation for August expected to be up three

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Speaker 2: tenths no, no, no, down one tenth of a percent

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Speaker 2: down one tenth Wow. That would be the first negative

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Speaker 1: Now the year over year.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, these are the most important. Boy, I'm surprised.

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Speaker 2: Real progress here. Two point six on year over year headline.

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Speaker 1: Clay, this is where the American people start chanting, slowly

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Speaker 3: Rate cut, rate cut, rate cut, Well, they should cut

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Speaker 3: fifty basis points. And I'm looking, as you're telling us

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Speaker 3: all this, buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates

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Speaker 3: because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that

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Speaker 1: Which was the worst in forty years, forty years.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely bonkers for you to do that, and a

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Speaker 3: people did. Now the result is, I think we're going

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Speaker 3: to get at least a twenty five basis point cut

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Speaker 3: I think we should have a one point overall cut

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Speaker 3: that will help to solve some of the log jam

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Speaker 1: Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many

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Speaker 1: of you that are telling us, hey, guys, prices are

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Speaker 1: still really high. Prices are still really high. We get it,

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Speaker 1: you know, That is the reality of what happened during

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Speaker 1: But the Trump economy is turning this around. So it's

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Speaker 1: not that we're unaware or anything else. It's that this

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Speaker 1: takes time, but the data is moving all of this

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Speaker 1: astonishing that half the jobs in Biden's election year were

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Speaker 1: fake jobs, as they've now admitted. We mentioned this earlier

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Speaker 1: pin in that though, Wells Fargo's CEO somebody who has

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Speaker 1: has to deal with, of course, mortgages and credit and

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Speaker 1: just think you should hear from somebody who's, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he's not talking

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Speaker 1: about where the economy is played. Two.

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Speaker 4: In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend

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Speaker 4: continues at the same year over year pace across almost

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Speaker 4: all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's

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Speaker 4: trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape.

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Speaker 4: We look at signs for any kind of change and

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Speaker 4: you just don't see it. And having said that, there

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Speaker 4: is this big dichotomy between higher income and lower income

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Speaker 4: consumers which continues and is a real issue. And when

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Speaker 4: you look at just the overall data in terms of jobs,

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Speaker 4: it's undeniable in terms of just job creation. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: things are actually feel very good today, certainly relative to

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Speaker 4: what you think they could be.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, feeling very good today. I mean, you know, look,

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Speaker 1: nothing's ever perfect with the economy. Clay could always be better,

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Speaker 1: but here there we are in September of Trump's first year.

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Speaker 1: It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing, that

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Speaker 3: Prices are never coming back down, and I think that

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Speaker 3: Inflation is so toxic because basically, once the prices are there,

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Speaker 3: lot of people recognize that necessarily because to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 3: we had two generations where effectively we didn't have Biden

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Speaker 3: we dealt with this for a long time. Inflation rates

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Speaker 3: got all the way up I think to like seventeen percent,

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Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken mortgage rates did. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: Now, there was much higher inflation, but you could put

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Speaker 1: all the time. But inflation is a particularly pernicious thing

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Speaker 1: have the attended assets that get inflated like home prices

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Speaker 1: you just have less buying power, which you feel when

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Speaker 1: gas in your car. But it's a long term thing, right,

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Speaker 1: or it takes longer to feel that than it does

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Speaker 1: the initial Let's just pay everybody to stay home and

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Speaker 1: then spend trillions and dollars under Biden that we should

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Speaker 3: And remember Biden wanted to spend five trillion, and Joe

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Speaker 3: Manchin said, I can't go above one point nine. So

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Speaker 3: things would have actually been double digit inflation if Biden

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Speaker 3: it You're never going to be able to buy a

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Speaker 3: hamburger for the price that you did before COVID. That's

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Speaker 3: never going to occur. Your cereal is never going to

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Speaker 1: The biggest story in the nation still this week has

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Speaker 3: to be able to defend her relative to him, Probably,

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Speaker 3: but at least she is with a back against her

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Speaker 3: able to see him coming, as opposed to being stabbed

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Speaker 3: and never actually even knowing that her life was coming

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Speaker 3: to a close. I think that's what's so particularly difficult

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Speaker 3: about watching this video is you can see her turn,

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Speaker 3: see that she has been killed, know that something is wrong,

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Speaker 3: and then watch her slowly bleeding out on the video.

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Speaker 3: It's brutal, but we need to see it because it's

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Speaker 3: unacceptable to happen anywhere in America to anyone and.

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Speaker 1: One thing that Look, this is a change in the

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Speaker 1: narrative moment, I think broadly nationally. It's not going to

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Speaker 1: affect policy in every city. It's not going to change

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Speaker 1: laws everywhere, but the perception has changed about interracial violence

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Speaker 1: in this country as a result of this, how it

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Speaker 1: is treated by law enforcement, how it is covered by

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Speaker 1: the media, and what the realities by the numbers are

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Speaker 1: for how our criminal justice system is treating people, What

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Speaker 1: And so I think in that sense it is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a late nineties, you know OJ Simpson moment.

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Speaker 1: Remember the OJ Simpson trial happened. I think the first

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Speaker 1: person I ever heard make this case was actually Ant Culter,

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Speaker 1: But she said, the OJ Simpson trial happened. And it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just the verdict in the O. J. Simpson trial.

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Speaker 1: It was the widespread support which I saw with my

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Speaker 1: own eyes as a kid, of people across the country

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Speaker 1: from within. Now I'm not saying it was everyone, or

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Speaker 1: even a majority or but there was enough support for

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Speaker 1: OJ from the black community. And when he clearly murdered

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Speaker 1: those two people. I mean, one was his ex wife,

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Speaker 1: the mother of children. The other was just a guy

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Speaker 1: who happened to be there. And there was cheering all

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Speaker 1: over the country. You Clay, you saw this too, right,

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Speaker 1: and this happened. There was cheering in my school from

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Speaker 1: the black students in my school at the verdict. It

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Speaker 1: was the only time I can remember there being radios

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Speaker 1: turned on in every classroom to hear the verdict of

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Speaker 1: a trial. That's how fixated on this one. And there

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Speaker 1: was a moment where you just said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: the laws of the law were actually going to not

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Speaker 1: allow this this stuff to happen anymore, no more trying

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Speaker 1: to deal with racial injustice of the past by creating

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Speaker 1: racial injustice today. And I think that this may be

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Speaker 1: another turning point, another moment in time where people see

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Speaker 1: this and they say, you can't have people arrested fifteen

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Speaker 1: times and take it seriously when they murder some girl

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Speaker 1: who's trying to get home from her job after fleeing

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Speaker 1: a war zone, that's unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: I also think I think all that is well said,

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Speaker 3: and I like the analogy and and Culter talking about, Hey,

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Speaker 3: this was clearly OJ got away with killing two innocent

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Speaker 3: white people, slaughtering them.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people cheered for it.

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Speaker 3: Was there, and all of the evidence dictated that he

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Speaker 3: was guilty, and as time has passed, I think it

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Speaker 3: opened a lot of people's eyes to racism. Here's what

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Speaker 3: I would say in general. He said, basically, I got

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Speaker 3: that white girl, and I'm quoting this guy who stabbed

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Speaker 3: Arena to death. There's a lot of racism that has

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with white people in America. And I

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Speaker 3: think if we want to really have a conversation, the

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Speaker 3: idea that only racism can occur white too black is

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Speaker 3: one of the most dishonest things that is said in

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Speaker 3: America at all.

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Speaker 1: That is an official BLM narrative. By the way that

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Speaker 1: the race hustlers out there, the people that have made

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Speaker 1: careers of this, they say that because of historic power

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Speaker 1: and balance, it is in fact impossible for a black

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Speaker 1: person to be racist. It is impossible. That is the

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Speaker 1: official theory of the Ibram X Kendy's and people and

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Speaker 1: Robin DeAngelo's. That is a lie. That is a lie. Clearly, Clearly,

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Speaker 1: many of these incidents that we can talk about here

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Speaker 1: involve a racial animist from a black person to a

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Speaker 1: white person that resulted in a murder, a grizzly murder

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Speaker 1: in this case. And Clay, we couldn't even finish talking

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Speaker 1: about this. And we had the people I was talking

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Speaker 1: about on Monday. You were out Monday. But the murder

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Speaker 1: of that retired veterinary professor from she was in Auburn,

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Speaker 1: alum in Auburn. And now I've got this other story.

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Speaker 1: You've got another career criminal. Okay, this guy is on

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Speaker 1: the loose, still a violent sex offender and career criminal.

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Speaker 1: He killed two elders people in Queens. This just happened.

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Speaker 1: He is He is a career criminal. They like I said,

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Speaker 1: registered sex offender. He is a black man named Jamel McGriff.

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Speaker 1: He is on the run. Play he tied He knocked

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Speaker 1: on the door of these elderly people for assistance. He

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Speaker 1: tied them up, set the man on fire, stabbed them

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Speaker 1: both to death, and then try to start a fire

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Speaker 1: to burn down the whole building.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, we can do the if this, if a white

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Speaker 1: guy did this the two elderly black people anywhere in

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Speaker 1: the United States, it would be the biggest story in

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Speaker 1: the war, in the country, in the world. You know

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Speaker 1: we'd all be told the KKK was rising again in

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Speaker 1: all this, but but yeah, we're not supposed to notice this,

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Speaker 1: we're not supposed to talk about this. This just happened.

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Speaker 1: He's still he's still on the loose.

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Speaker 3: Remember Biden said the biggest threat in America was white supremacy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was the talking point of the Democrat

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Speaker 3: Party that America's biggest threat is white supremacy. And I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of black people are looking and hearing

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Speaker 3: all this and recognize just how dishonest much of the

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Speaker 3: coverage around BLM was. Because if you want there to

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Speaker 3: be fewer murders, as everyone of all racists should, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic,

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Speaker 3: everyone out there listening, we should all want there to

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Speaker 3: be fewer murders in America, you have to look at

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Speaker 3: who's committing murders. And this idea that black people were

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Speaker 3: in danger from white people is just crazy if you

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Speaker 3: look at the statistical data, that almost never happens. And

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Speaker 3: yet this is where I come back to the anecdotal

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Speaker 3: world in which we live. If you take any anecdote,

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Speaker 3: it should be representative of a larger problem. It shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be a outlier. That is almost never occurring that we're

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Speaker 3: using to try to drive public policy. That's frankly what

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Speaker 3: George Floyd was. And remember the moment was awful death

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Speaker 3: for white more people.

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Speaker 1: The moment in time where there was a stop Asian

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Speaker 1: hate campaign. Now, if you want to look at got

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Speaker 1: that down. Yeah, what's really interesting is you look at

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Speaker 1: crimes within the Asian community. And by the way, in

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Speaker 1: New York City, there's a very Now Asian is so expansive.

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Speaker 1: When you say Asia, you're talking Bangladeshia, you're talking Taiwanese.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a whole. You know, Asia is a

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Speaker 1: very big place. But there are elements or members of

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Speaker 1: the Asian community who were actually quite poor but have

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Speaker 1: incredibly low crime rates. So this is one of the

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Speaker 1: ways you can just dismiss this, Oh, poverty causes crime.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie that data doesn't support it. It's just

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Speaker 1: not true. There's no causation there. But the stop Asian

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Speaker 1: hate thing got stopped because of video, yes, and we

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Speaker 1: were being told that there were the The insinuation was

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Speaker 1: there's like maga hat wearing white guys spitting on Asian

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Speaker 1: people or being mean to Asian people, attacking Asian people.

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Speaker 1: And what we saw over and over and over again

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Speaker 1: Asian people. And so they got rid of the whole

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Speaker 1: stop Asian hateop.

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Speaker 3: Stop Asian hate vanished because black guys were the ones

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Speaker 3: that were causing almost all of the Asian beatdowns and violence.

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Speaker 3: And so that remember it was what about lasts like

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Speaker 3: six weeks stop Asient hate. We got to stop Asient hate,

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Speaker 3: and all the videos kept coming out and it was

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Speaker 3: just black guys knocking out Asian people, and people were like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I guess maybe this Asian thing's not such

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Speaker 3: a big deal, right, And again, what they are looking

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Speaker 3: for is the right people to be criminal. Look, this

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Speaker 3: whole trans shoot up, the Minneapolis in Nashville story vanished.

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Speaker 3: Guy wrote kill Trump on the gun and yeah, they

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Speaker 1: They hide this stuff. They hide. They hide because you

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Speaker 3: It's the biggest story continues to be the brutal murder

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Speaker 3: of Arena Zurutska and the video in full totality being

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Speaker 3: the fact that this individual was allowed to be back

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Speaker 3: out onto the streets is the former governor of North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: Roy Cooper, who was instrumental in putting in place the

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Speaker 3: soft on crime policies that allowed this guy to be

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Speaker 3: arrested fourteen times and then to brutally attack and murder

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Speaker 3: C is Michael Wattley, former chair of the RNC. He

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Speaker 3: the Republican nominee, and he joins us now. And so

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Speaker 3: let's start with the very basics on this story. When

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Speaker 3: did you become aware, Chairman Wattley, about this video and

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Speaker 3: this murder and what is the real action like as

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Speaker 3: now being released in full totality.

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Speaker 5: Sure you know I write about the murder the day

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Speaker 5: after it happened. There was there was a little bit

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Speaker 5: of local coverage done in North Carolina, but really only

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Speaker 5: when the video came out did you get the visuals

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Speaker 5: and understand, you know, how depraved this guy was and

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Speaker 5: how horrific this this attack was. You know, before that

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Speaker 5: it was really just a statistic And the fact is,

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Speaker 5: you know that this guy should not have been on

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Speaker 5: that car, he should not have been walking around the city,

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Speaker 5: He should not have been a threat to the people

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Speaker 5: of North Carolina. And so every conversation that I'm having

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Speaker 5: across North Carolina, people are just in shock that this

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Speaker 5: guy was allowed, you know, on the streets after having

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Speaker 5: been arrested fourteen different times and and let out through

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Speaker 5: a revolving door. And I think a lot of people

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Speaker 5: are very disgusted with the leadership from the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 5: which really starts at the top with Roy Cooper, and

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Speaker 5: that they wanted to put in place policies that we're

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Speaker 5: going to foster that revolving door and let these guys

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Speaker 5: out rather than have to pay the punishment to society

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Speaker 5: when they committed crimes.

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Speaker 1: Chrman Wattley, it's buck. Thanks for being here with us.

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Speaker 1: You alluded to this just a moment ago. I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: if you could give us a little bit more detail

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Speaker 1: because we do like to try to focus on the

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Speaker 1: action items, you know, what could be done differently in

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Speaker 1: the future, What needs to be changed to make these

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Speaker 1: situations far less common than unfortunately are where there's a

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Speaker 1: repeat offender commits a heinous murderer, and then finally the

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Speaker 1: system says, oh, I guess we have to do something

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Speaker 1: about this. What could be different, whether it's in the

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Speaker 1: city of Charlotte specifically, or in North Carolina state law,

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Speaker 1: What would you like to see changed in the system

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Speaker 1: that would make it function better to protect all North Carolinians.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you need to keep repeat offenders off the streets.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the first place that you've got to start.

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Speaker 5: You know, you look at a city like Charlotte, but

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Speaker 5: it's not just Charlotte. I mean you can look at

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Speaker 5: every single community across North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 5: And and you worry about this type of a safety issue.

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Speaker 5: You could go out to California, you can go to

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Speaker 5: New York, you know, and and and I think that

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Speaker 5: that having a system in place where we're going to

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Speaker 5: run back the blue and make sure that they have

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Speaker 5: the resources that they need. All the men and women

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Speaker 5: in uniform uh to keep our kids in our communities safe.

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Speaker 5: We need to make sure that we're going to do that.

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Speaker 5: But then secondly, they have to be prosecuted and there

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Speaker 5: have to be real consequences. You know, when when Roy

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Speaker 5: Cooper signs an executive order that says, I want to

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Speaker 5: reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina. The laws do not

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Speaker 5: need to be reimagined. They need to be enforced, you know.

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Speaker 5: And and so that that is something that President Trump,

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Speaker 5: thank God, and Pam bondi are our great Attorney General,

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Speaker 5: are working on every single day in every single one

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Speaker 5: of these communities. I find it amazing that the Democratic

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Speaker 5: leadership absolutely lost their mind when President Trump sent federal

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Speaker 5: troops in to quell the riots out in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 5: and then they absolutely are horrified that he said he

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Speaker 5: was going to clean up Washington, d C. By sending

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Speaker 5: an assistance, which even the mayor, Muriel Bowser says is

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Speaker 5: a great thing. You know. But everywhere you look, the

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Speaker 5: Democrats are fighting harder for violent criminal repeat offenders like

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Speaker 5: this than they are the victims and the carnage that

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Speaker 5: those guys are sowing in our communities.

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Speaker 3: We get asked this question a lot, what should happen

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Speaker 3: to the judges and the magistrates who are consistently letting

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Speaker 3: violent criminals back out on the streets. The das, obviously,

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Speaker 3: who are taking soft on crime deals to allow this

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Speaker 3: to occur or not beyond reproach, we talk about the

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Speaker 3: elected officials, what about the judges themselves? For North Carolinians

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Speaker 3: and frankly, for Americans all over the country who are

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Speaker 3: outraged by what they've seen in this video. It was

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Speaker 3: eminently predictable that a violent predator would act in violent

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Speaker 3: and predatory fashion, and unfortunately this young woman was the victim,

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Speaker 3: but it could have been many different young women, young

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Speaker 3: men all over the state of North Carolina. How do

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Speaker 3: we stop this from happening? From a judicial perspective.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a very important note, you know,

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Speaker 5: because in North Carolina, judges are elected. You know, when

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Speaker 5: I took over as the state party chair in North Carolina,

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Speaker 5: Democrats had a six to one advantage on the Supreme

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Speaker 5: Court and they had a majority on the Court of Appeals.

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Speaker 5: I created a judicial Victory Fund where we raised money

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Speaker 5: specifically to put it into those judicial races. And today

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Speaker 5: we have a conservative Supreme Court, we have a conservative

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Speaker 5: Court of Appeals. But that needs to be the case

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Speaker 5: in every one of these localities. You know that when

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Speaker 5: we see judges who are acting against the interests of

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Speaker 5: their communities, they need to be voted out. Obviously that's

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Speaker 5: different on a federal level, where we have to go

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Speaker 5: through the impeachments. But the judges in all of these

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Speaker 5: different cases, could you know in Charlotte, North Carolina, and

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Speaker 5: and really truly there do need to be ramifications when

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Speaker 5: people are going to continually put the interest of criminals

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Speaker 5: ahead of uh, you know, the community at large.

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Speaker 1: But you know, oh sorry, sir, go ahead, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. I was going to ask about this, this

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Speaker 1: status of this this uh special what do they call that?

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Speaker 1: There wasn't really a judge. It was a magistrate, right

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Speaker 1: that let this individual out the most recent time, a

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Speaker 1: magistrate that didn't pass the bar exam. How can somebody

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Speaker 1: who hasn't proven any ability in the law be entrusted

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Speaker 1: with dispensing justice based on the law. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people look at this and say, what is

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Speaker 1: going on?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think they should say that, right, this is

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Speaker 5: really this is really appalling, and I think it is

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Speaker 5: something structurally that we need to take a look at.

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Speaker 5: In North Carolina. Clearly, every state is going to have

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Speaker 5: different laws in terms of how they're dealing with this,

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Speaker 5: but it starts at the top. You know, Roy Cooper

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Speaker 5: was the attorney general and then the governor of North Carolina,

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Speaker 5: and he said very clearly, I want to have a

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Speaker 5: soft on crime policy. I want to reimagine law enforcement

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Speaker 5: in North Carolina. He put these executive orders in place,

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Speaker 5: and he set a tone for the rest of the

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Speaker 5: judicial system all the way down to this particular magistrate.

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Speaker 5: And that is just inexcusable. It's a complete failure of

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Speaker 5: leadership at the top.

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Speaker 3: The campaign is going to be a grueling, arduous undertaking.

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Speaker 3: And I know you're traveling all over North Carolina, and

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Speaker 3: I know the answer anytime you say how do elections

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Speaker 3: get one is all over a state, all over a community.

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Speaker 3: People have to come out and vote. But I saw

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Speaker 3: this morning. I was watching the press conference of a

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Speaker 3: lot of different Charlotte leaders. Over one hundred people I

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Speaker 3: think are murdered every year in Charlotte. And so while

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Speaker 3: Arena Zurutska the video is captivating in an awful and

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Speaker 3: eerie and horrific way, they're at least ninety nine to

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Speaker 3: other plus people who are often innocent victims of violent

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Speaker 3: crime in Charlotte. What is a reasonable thing that a

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Speaker 3: Senate campaign can do over the next year plus to

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Speaker 3: try to shine a light on everybody who is dying

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Speaker 3: unfortunately in our large cities, often run by Democrats, to

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Speaker 3: try to change that story.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, the safety of our kids and communities is

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Speaker 5: an absolute top tier issue for our campaign, and President

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Speaker 5: Trump ran on this in twenty twenty four. It is

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Speaker 5: an issue set that really truly resonates all across North Carolina.

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Speaker 5: You know, for us to think about the leadership in

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Speaker 5: this state, you know, I go back to twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: when Antifa riots, they're burning down Raleigh and Roy Cooper,

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Speaker 5: the Governor's out there marching with them. Right. This is

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Speaker 5: not the type of leadership that we need, you know,

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Speaker 5: in democratic leadership, whether it's aoc Zorn Mom, Donnie Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 5: or anybody else. You know, they're out there fighting aggressively

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Speaker 5: for criminals. They're not fighting for families and communities. And

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Speaker 5: I think that is a spotlight we're going to be

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Speaker 5: shining from one end of the state to the other.

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Speaker 3: It's been almost exactly one year since the Hurricane Helene.

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Speaker 3: Awfulness happened in western North Carolina. We traveled in there.

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Speaker 3: We have a great affiliate in Nashville. What are you

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Speaker 3: seeing of Western North Carolina? How is the recovery going

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Speaker 3: from your perspective?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, the people in the communities of western North

805
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Speaker 5: Carolina are so strong and so resilient, but you know,

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Speaker 5: FEMA and the Cooper administration really failed them when hurricane

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Speaker 5: came through. And so President Trump, when he was put

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Speaker 5: in office, won this election and he was sworn in.

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Speaker 5: His very first trip was to western North Carolina and

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Speaker 5: took me along with him, and I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 5: And we saw the devastation that was still in place

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Speaker 5: because you know, Governor Cooper and President Biden had completely

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Speaker 5: failed that region. And since then, the administration has put

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Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars of resources in.

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Speaker 5: It's been in It's not just FEMA, but it has

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Speaker 5: been a whole of government. Right just last week we

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Speaker 5: saw us DA with two hundred and twenty million dollars

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Speaker 5: of support there. We've seen one point four billion dollars

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Speaker 5: coming in and housing assistance from hud We've also seen

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Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars that have come in from

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Speaker 5: the Small Business Administration to help the forty five thousand

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Speaker 5: small businesses that were affected by that storm. But you know,

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Speaker 5: obviously the FEMA role is tremendously important. I appreciate President

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Speaker 5: asking me to be on the FEMA Review Council to

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Speaker 5: take a look at what happened coming out of Hurricane

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Speaker 5: Helene and make sure that we don't ever have a

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Speaker 5: response like that.

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Speaker 1: Again, Chairman Wantley, where can folks go to help out?

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Speaker 1: Learn more about all of you above for your campaign.

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Speaker 5: Wadleyfirsenate dot com. And we certainly need a movement all

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Speaker 5: across North Carolina. It is going to be the marquee

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Speaker 5: Senate race in the entire country. You know, we go back.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you, Shan, what kind of money are

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Speaker 1: the Democrats going to throw into this race? Would you guess?

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Speaker 1: Just put like if you were in a ballpark it

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 5: I fully expect the Democrats will spend two hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty to three hundred million dollars in this race in

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Speaker 5: North Carolina, and they're not going to have it is

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Speaker 5: It is absolutely staggering the amount of money that the

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Speaker 5: Democrats are throwing at this and of course it's coming

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Speaker 5: from Chicago, it's coming from Saint Louis, it's coming from

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Speaker 5: San Francisco, it's coming from New York and everywhere else

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Speaker 5: other than North Carolina. But the fact is, we need

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Speaker 5: a senator who is going to fight for every family

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Speaker 5: and every community in the state. And President Trump needs

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Speaker 5: an ally in the Senate and I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: that voice.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chairman Watley, good luck. We'll have you on

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Speaker 3: i'm sure again soon to talk about the North Carolina

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Speaker 3: Senate campaign, which is going to be one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest battlegrounds in all of the midterms next year.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, yeah, thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: one of many that people like you have helped. But

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Speaker 3: there's so much more to do. Many are still in need.

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Speaker 3: We mustn't forget America's heroes have given so much, and

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Speaker 6: You don't know what you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 6: could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck gets going

876
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Speaker 1: right now, everybody, thank you for being here with us.

877
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: And something that got well, honestly just moved down the

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Speaker 1: news priority list because of some of the huge things

879
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: that have been going on this week. But I want

880
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Speaker 1: to spend some time to talking about it because it

881
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: is one of those broad conversations about politics and America

882
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: and what's going on today that answers a lot of

883
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Speaker 1: questions right now and also gives us a sense as

884
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: to what the future is going to look like, what

885
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: is going on when it comes to men and women

886
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: and their views of life, specifically for Gen Z adults. Now,

887
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: all of our boomers boomers listening, we love you. This matters,

888
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: as you know, because these are your kids or grandkids

889
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: in many cases, and they shall inherit this republic of ours.

890
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: And there's some really stark differences. This is from NBC

891
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Speaker 1: News polling data about people eighteen to twenty nine years old.

892
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: So that's Gen Z. I am a gray beard millennial. Clay,

893
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: what are you silent generation some other You're not a millennial.

894
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: I am the youngest Gen X. You're Joe. I am

895
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: the youngest generation, member of the generation that has saved

896
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Speaker 3: America by supporting Dona more than any other generation.

897
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Speaker 1: My older brother who is also of your generation, you

898
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: guys at the same age. Mason very quick to point

899
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: out that Gen X probably has the best generation rep

900
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: right now. It's certainly in the media world, like everyone's

901
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: like Gen X just getting it done, all cool, and

902
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, collected millennials, we got some rough stuff because

903
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: we complained a lot about the housing and mortgage meltdown stuff.

904
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight and what that did to

905
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Speaker 1: our careers. But let's let's look at the gen Z

906
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: situation right now, because Clay, perhaps this is something you've

907
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: addressed in your upcoming book, Palls. Ye men, men are

908
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: trending in a very clear direction in that generation. So

909
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: young men, young adult men right now. This is from

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00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: NBC News data, young men who voted for Trump. So

911
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: gen Z eighteen to twenty nine, who voted for Trump.

912
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: What is important to a personal definition of success? Thirty

913
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Speaker 1: four percent of them said having children thirty three percent,

914
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: financial independence, thirty percent, fulfilling job career, twenty nine percent,

915
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: being married. And then they go into some other things,

916
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: doing what you want, being grounded spiritually twenty four percent.

917
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Speaker 1: Got to get those are rookie numbers on spiritual grant,

918
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: but you know, we got to get that up a

919
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: little bit, making community proud all this stuff, right, Women

920
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: who voted for Harris, this is what was really stark.

921
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Remember young men who vote for Trump, young women who

922
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: vote for Harris, That's what we're looking at here. Fifty

923
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Speaker 1: one percent said fulfilling job or career. That's the number

924
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: one thing by far, fulfilling job, having money to do

925
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: what you want forty six percent emotional stability, which a

926
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: lot of these women got to work on. I gotta

927
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: tell you, thirty nine percent financial independence, thirty two percent

928
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Speaker 1: have it using your talents, thirty seven percent owning a home,

929
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: twenty percent having children. Clay and being married were tied

930
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: for them at the very bottom of the list at

931
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Speaker 1: six percent. This is a vision of two paths for

932
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Speaker 1: the genders in America as defined by political affiliation today

933
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: or separated by political affiliation today. All these women who

934
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Speaker 1: are voting for Harris, who are in their twenties, don't

935
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Speaker 1: care at all about family formation, which is stunning. Honestly,

936
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Speaker 1: you see that data, It is stunning.

937
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Speaker 3: I think it's a sign and this is probably going

938
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Speaker 3: to get clipped, so prepare yourselves for the headlines.

939
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Speaker 1: I love it when he does this. Where's media matters

940
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Speaker 1: go for it?

941
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

942
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Speaker 3: I think it's a sign that women are have been

943
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: sold to mass delusion. A lot of young women. And

944
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Speaker 3: let me explain why. The only reason to want, in

945
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: my opinion, a fulfilling job and a career is so

946
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Speaker 3: you can afford to have a family. I look, there

947
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: are relatively few people whose careers are so important that

948
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: they change the world. Okay, if you told me right now, Hey,

949
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 3: Elon Musk, Yeah, he might not be a great dad.

950
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: I think he's an incredible and he might be a

951
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 3: great dad. I'm not saying it's a negative, but I'm

952
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: saying like his career is so important potentially to the

953
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: future of the civilization that I can say, Okay, that

954
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: seems like a really good use of his time. You

955
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: would want, I think people who are supreme geniuses. If

956
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: you could have two kids, or you could solve cancer,

957
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: I would submit to you. Ideally you could do both,

958
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: but if you had to choose, curing cancer would be

959
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: a better societal benefit than you having two kids. Most

960
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: people have jobs, though, not to cure cancer or to

961
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: solve all the issues that Elon Musk is trying to solve,

962
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: but just to be able to have the resources to

963
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Speaker 3: have children.

964
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Speaker 1: It's a means to an end to pay bills. That's

965
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: why you get paid for it. If it were fun,

966
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to pay you for it. Now, some

967
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: jobs like Clay and I are lucky. We both love

968
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: our jobs and we get paid for it. But it

969
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: took a long time to get to a place where

970
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: that was the case, and this is the reality for

971
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Speaker 1: a lot of women play right now. I saw this

972
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: from my graduating class at Amherst, Okay, at Emhers College.

973
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: There are all these women who at that time were

974
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: going into management consulting like McKenzie Baine remember where Mitt

975
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Romney was, Or they went into investment banking. That is

976
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: a situation where you are going to work eighty hours

977
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: a week for years and years and years to make money.

978
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: You are not curing cancer, you are not. All of

979
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: the women that I knew who went into that dropped out.

980
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: All of them dropped out because that is not the

981
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: way that they want to spend their lives. But society

982
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: had set them up for this. Society had convinced them

983
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: that this is what they should do.

984
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: I also think, and again, these are eighteen to twenty

985
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: nine year olds, women who voted for Harris, men who

986
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: voted for Trump. I also think it is likely to

987
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 3: be the number one complaint of the Harris voting women

988
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: that they can't find good men worth dating and having

989
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: families with. But all of the young men who are

990
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: Trump voters actually want to get married and have kids,

991
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: and the women don't want to. And here's the other

992
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: thing about this that I think is indicative of having

993
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: been sold a false bill of goods. And by the way,

994
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: eight hundred and two two eight a two, maybe you

995
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: are in this eighteen to twenty nine year old female

996
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: group and you want to react, maybe you are in

997
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: the male group. But what is interesting to me about

998
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: this as well, Buck, is the women should be the

999
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: ones focused on having children because and I don't want

1000
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: to throw anybody into a full panic here, but a

1001
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: twenty nine year old woman who hasn't gotten married and

1002
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: hasn't had kids has a biological clock to worry about

1003
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: that a twenty nine year old man does not have

1004
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: in the same way to worry about. So, if anything,

1005
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: these should be flipped, Buck, because women, because of biology,

1006
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: have to think about having children at younger ages than

1007
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 3: men do.

1008
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: If you're over thirty five, it's a geriatric it's officially

1009
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: medically a geriatric pregnancy. That's what they call it, a

1010
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: geriatric pregnancy, and the risks factors go up all across.

1011
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: They should tell people this in schools. By the way,

1012
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: I didn't learn this stuff until I was an adult.

1013
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I didn't know all the

1014
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: things all the risk factors that increase. Now, I'm not

1015
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: saying that that people can make their own life choices.

1016
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Some people just want have a career, some people don't

1017
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: have a family. It's not about denying anybody a choice.

1018
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: It's about giving them the facts and the reality of

1019
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: what is likely and what is true in general or

1020
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: true in the aggregate about these things. And for most women,

1021
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll put it this way, Clay, most guys

1022
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: that I know, if they weren't trying to date and orget,

1023
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, date and get married, would work a lot

1024
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: less hard. They'd spend a lot more time in leisure

1025
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: and whatever. But they want to build something. They'll want

1026
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: to be providers. There's something instinctive and instinctual for men

1027
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: about this. For women, they are generally not always generally

1028
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: set up differently for what will be a successful and

1029
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: happy life path. But the influences. Now, you grew up

1030
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: in a more traditional Americana place than I did, so

1031
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: I can speak from the New York City perspective, which

1032
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: is the same in Los Angeles, and very similar in Chicago,

1033
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: and very similar in d C. And you know, these

1034
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: urban centers where the women of my generation were all

1035
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: told you need to be You need to compete with

1036
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: men in the workplace. You need to spend the same

1037
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of hours. You need to put your career first

1038
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: and figure out family later. And I have seen it

1039
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: now that I'm in my forties. This has resulted in

1040
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: life path disappointment and in some cases devastation for a

1041
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: lot of very talented and you know, wonderful young women

1042
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: who now can have families or never had a family,

1043
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: and they want to. I'm not talking to the people

1044
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: that don't want to. They want to, but they got

1045
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: their timelines mixed up. I see this women who vote

1046
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: for Harris Thing and none of them care about being

1047
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: married or having children. They're going to change there also

1048
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: for what so you can be the first female VP

1049
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: at the marketing firm at age thirty five or at

1050
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: age forty. You think that that's guys generally want to

1051
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: do that so they can have a wife and kids

1052
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: that they can provide for.

1053
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: Yes, what you are aspiring to to be a suit

1054
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: in middle management is what people usually do so they

1055
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: can have kids. And when I look at this, I

1056
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: just think that young women have been sold a bill

1057
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: of goods on what the goal of life is because

1058
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: if your goal is just to a mass job title

1059
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: and then die by yourself, Okay, that seems kind of lonely.

1060
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: It seems not very fulfilling. And I just think that

1061
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: a lot of young women, and I think, frankly, Buck,

1062
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: this is what you're seeing these women they get older,

1063
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 3: they deeply inside, this is me psychoanalyzing, they deeply inside

1064
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: reject some of the choices that they made to give

1065
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: up a family to be to your point of VP

1066
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: and a bland accounting firm or something. No offense to

1067
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: everybody out there working in accounting, but I don't think

1068
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: people are doing cartwheels into the accounting office every day

1069
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: because they feel like they're changing the world in such

1070
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: a positive way, and they make politics their life's focus

1071
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: because they have to pour their energy and their soul

1072
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: and them and vigor and vitality into something and it's

1073
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 3: not motherhood and instead Donald Trump is hitler. I thought

1074
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: about this gen Z thing when I saw Trump goes

1075
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: to a steakhouse and there's just a bunch of chicks

1076
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: that show up and scream a chant that he's hitler

1077
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: to him, and you can watch Trump walk over and

1078
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: kind of look at him like you chicks are crazy,

1079
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: Like you can kind of see it, as I guarantee you.

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Speaker 3: In his head, he's like, what are these girls doing? Like,

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Speaker 3: how is your life's ambition to show up when somebody's

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Speaker 3: eating at a steakhouse and call him hitler? I think

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Speaker 3: you've given up the plot on life. And I think

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Speaker 3: your des a lot of.

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Speaker 1: A lot of projection. The psychologists would call it of

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Speaker 1: their frustration that they externalize in order to avoid dealing

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Speaker 1: with the realities of the choices that they have made.

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Speaker 1: So Trump is hitler gives them something to feel bigger

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Speaker 1: than themselves and like they they're a part of something

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Speaker 1: because a lot of them, the choices that they have made,

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Speaker 1: don't let them feel that way day in and day out,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean I tell my friends this, So

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Speaker 1: my families play at the most basic level, not getting

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Speaker 1: into the spiritual and you know, being a Catholic who's

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Speaker 1: trying to now become actually more of a of a

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Speaker 1: real Catholic and going back to the church. But just

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Speaker 1: on a basic day to day level, I just think

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Speaker 1: that take care of your people is my basic life philosophy.

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Speaker 1: Obviously your family first and then the people around you,

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Speaker 1: and that can keep you really busy if you're actually

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Speaker 1: doing that, if you're taking care of your people, you

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Speaker 1: really don't have time like those sad people we saw

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Speaker 1: in DC at the inauguration, to be out in the

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Speaker 1: freezing cold for six hours shouting about how Trump is

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Speaker 1: hitler with nobody listening. You know, yeah, but if you

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Speaker 1: don't have that and you're not taking care of you,

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Speaker 1: and I don't just mean having kids, and some people

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Speaker 1: can't have kids, and we're sensitive to that, of course,

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Speaker 1: but the people around you making decisions to be meaningful

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Speaker 1: in their lives and to have that consideration and that

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Speaker 1: discipline in your day to day that's hard. Showing up

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Speaker 1: with your purple hair and you're screaming and your you know,

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Speaker 1: Trump is is is the Antichrist, although they probably wouln't

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Speaker 1: put it that way. He's hitler, that's easy, that's so,

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Speaker 1: that's just narcissism. Here's a question for you as we

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Speaker 1: go to break and I'd be curious to hear from

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Speaker 1: people again. This is an NBC News poll eighteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty nine year old voters what they care about, male

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Speaker 1: and female. How many women are lying?

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Speaker 3: Because when I saw these numbers, I'm like how many

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Speaker 3: women feel bad to say, hey, what matters to me

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Speaker 3: is getting married and having kids, because they feel like

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Speaker 3: they're turning their back on feminism if they say that,

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Speaker 3: and so they're just lying because they think other people

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Speaker 3: want to hear. It's crazy to me that fifty one

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Speaker 3: percent of people would say my career is my top priority.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I had when before I met

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Speaker 1: my wife and the love of my life I had.

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Speaker 1: I had women bail on dates, but I'd asked them

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Speaker 1: out on because they found out that I was a Trumper.

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Speaker 1: So they said, look, you may be incredibly charming and

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Speaker 1: have amazing hair, but you voted for Trump and I

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Speaker 1: have to back out of this.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say that first part, but that's what they

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Speaker 1: were thinking. So I'm just saying some of these ladies

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Speaker 1: are crazy.

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Speaker 3: I think some of them are crazy. I think women

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Speaker 3: are more susceptible to worrying about what others think in

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Speaker 3: general than men are, and so I wonder whether they're

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Speaker 3: being honest in their responses.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some gen z to away in on this one.

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Speaker 1: Gen Z Clay and Buckland out there or parents of

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Speaker 1: how about that. We'll take your thoughts on this. But look,

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