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Speaker 2: right now, fortunately and unfortunately depending on what you're into.

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Speaker 2: So apparently did you hear that they've been abusing them

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Speaker 2: dogs for that movie a Dogs Purpose we started trailing

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Speaker 2: It's like dogs get reincarnated. And we was on the

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Speaker 2: way to see Hitting Figures and Layla was like, Uncle Roger,

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Speaker 2: you believe in reincarnation? And I was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's what started that conversation. Okay, yeah, I was like,

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Speaker 2: she was like, uh, well, I want want to see

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Speaker 2: that movie. It's a movie by reincarnation. It's called Dogs Purpose.

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Speaker 2: I read the book and I was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what that's about. But then we saw that

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Speaker 2: coming back in different dogs, and like every time it

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Speaker 2: and he has his dog again. When I'm assuming I'm

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Speaker 2: a guest. The first time, the kid has to watch

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I haven't read it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she reads all the books. So yeah. There's a

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Speaker 2: The animals and the dollar's purpose were provided and handled

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Speaker 2: super advising what that's their job that someone has paid

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Speaker 2: There needs to be a better system than this, That's

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Speaker 2: what I've called for in the past. I agree with

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Speaker 2: Peter that they not only need to make sure animals

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Speaker 4: Something would have trigger in them, particularly if you've trained

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Speaker 4: you know you've done your research, like this is your

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Speaker 4: and no, animals aren't people, but animals can quote unquote

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Speaker 4: show certain forms of what we consider emotions to let

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Speaker 4: you know something's not right. And yeah, the ship been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing you put profit motive in there.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, a lot of ethics gonna go

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Speaker 2: We can't find a dog that wants to do this stunt,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Essentially a dog don't know

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Speaker 2: it is for a movie, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: like the dogs not like and action, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like either way till a dog's gonna be like, why

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what the training could have necessarily been.

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Speaker 4: And even if it was, does animals steal make panic?

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Speaker 2: Right? So yep they I don't now. People are talking

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Speaker 1: Man, right, don't be abusing animals?

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Speaker 2: Now? What am I supposed to do to be a

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Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do?

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Speaker 2: Team Payne don't want to go to jail, y'all? Oh

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Speaker 2: for what he apparently is in Australia. Wants to kick

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Speaker 2: from ten years ago. What ten years ago?

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Speaker 1: Who held on to this and didn't write it off?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But he wants to go to Australia

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Speaker 2: and it's weird because from Australia obviously, Karen, what are

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Speaker 2: So apparently this fucks up your ability to go through customs?

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Speaker 4: It affects Brown people's ability to go through customs.

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Speaker 2: I want to come, but I don't want to go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're the brown people out there.

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Speaker 2: out for racism.

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Speaker 1: Racism, Yeah, because if that had been a white person.

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Speaker 4: You're thinking, mother, how many articles you reading about a

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Speaker 2: Uber agrees to pay twenty million dollars to set a

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Speaker 2: Uber tells his driver partners they can make a comfortable living,

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Speaker 2: it's a claim that's been contested timing again, and now

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Speaker 2: Uber is paying a twenty million dollar lawsuit to the

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Speaker 2: disbursement of that sum. The lawsuit claimed Uber made false, misleading,

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Speaker 2: I'll do you are only good for one thing. That's

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Speaker 2: Wrong is wrong? You out here looking out for nobody

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Speaker 2: So, she says, I've taken so many punches for all

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Speaker 2: Damn it's weird. I notice. We won't we won't ever talk,

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Speaker 1: They're not interesting. They just keep that real day, you're

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00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: not interested.

435
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: You're not funny. You think you're funny and you're not.

436
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: You think you're interesting and you're not. You're just not

437
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: that interesting. And for a lot of people, they go, well,

438
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: you're a cool person in real life, but I don't

439
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: want to see your.

440
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: Constant thoughts in my timeline, So I'm gonna mute block you.

441
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: We can see it.

442
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Be cool though, but I don't want to see your

443
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: shit in my timeline. And people take that shit so

444
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: much too hard.

445
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: And I guess because I wasn't quote unquote raised in

446
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 4: social media age. Social media came after I was a

447
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: grown ass woman, So my feelings and how I view

448
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 4: social media is completely different than younger people. And so,

449
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 4: you know, I think that also with it, people don't

450
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 4: really actually build real relationships.

451
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: I think.

452
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: People don't put any sweat equity into relationships and they

453
00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: consider people their friends.

454
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: Y'all are not friends. Y'all are really our acquaintances, because

455
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: if we are.

456
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: Friends, the first quote unquote infraction that you do is

457
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: not worth me throwing the whole relationship away.

458
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, with celebrity people have never been friends, right.

459
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't like I think, but I think

460
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: there's something like you said about the fact that you

461
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: can see everybody starts and actions and shit everywhere. Now,

462
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: I think, even more so than the past, it gives

463
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: people the illusion of a relationship that's just not there.

464
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: You know what, I mean, like the fact that I

465
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: can see everything at Amberroll's post and I've seen her titties,

466
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: and I've seen her SlutWalk, and I've seen her interviews.

467
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: I think now it just makes people feel like and

468
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: the threashow is lower now. So like when people used

469
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: to feel that way about, say, like a Michael Jackson,

470
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: it was because Michael Jackson was so fucking famous and

471
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: he was everywhere. Now you don't have to be that famous,

472
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: like you just I have dedicated people, like people on

473
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: your Instagram, people on your Facebook, people on your Twitter,

474
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: people on on whatever platform you have, and so to

475
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: them it's like a relationship almost. But there's a lot

476
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: of people that follow and their friend and they do

477
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: all that shit, but they don't really fuck with you, right,

478
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 2: you know, I've never been under the illusion that someone

479
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: following me means that we are cool, because more often

480
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: than not, you'll find there's just certain people that like

481
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: they can't help themselves but to follow you even though

482
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: they don't like you, or like, you know, people that

483
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast but don't fuck with you, you know,

484
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: just weird. To me, it's weird because I wouldn't do it.

485
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: But like you said, we may come from a different

486
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: age or maybe we just socially we're just different type

487
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: of people.

488
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: I think we are.

489
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: As if I don't like you, I just don't need

490
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: to keep up with anything you do.

491
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: And I don't want you like like like for me personally,

492
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: if I go, I don't fuck with you or either

493
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: I want you out of my sight because honestly, when

494
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: it comes to social media, you're actually in my so

495
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 4: like as I can physically see it. So for me,

496
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm following you block and.

497
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: You can be gone.

498
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 4: Like I don't need to hear your name like I like,

499
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: that's why I don't. I'm very different because a lot

500
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: of people go, I hate you, but I don't father

501
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: everything about you. Know if I don't fuck with you,

502
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about you. Just get out,

503
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: get out my vision, get out my site.

504
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's weird though, because uh, I think the other

505
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: part of this is you have people and this is

506
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: why I think happened with these people with ever rows.

507
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: They do follow the shit you do because you're famous

508
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: and your this and you're that, but they don't really

509
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: like you, so they can't wait for you to fuck up, right,

510
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: So it's like they don't need to catch you quote

511
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: unquote dead to rights. And I bet you if you

512
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: could find these two people that she screencap right now,

513
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: they'd be like, still fuck her. And it is what

514
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: I said it was. It's not what the way she

515
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: explained it, that's wrong. You know. It's that kind of thing.

516
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: I've experienced that before, where someone is like tried to

517
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: put the worst things they can possibly imagine into me,

518
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: like to say that that's what I represent, and I

519
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: have to be like, yeah, that's that's ridiculous, you know

520
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. But that's like a confirmation bias where

521
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: they were hoping for anything and they needed the smallest

522
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: thing and they were like, I knew you wasn't shit.

523
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: And that's what it seems like. And she's at the

524
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: crux of a lot of people's hypocrisy, hatred and all

525
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: this shit. And it's you know, it's the same with

526
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian. It's the same with shit all them Kardashians.

527
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: It's the same with Caitlyn Jenner. It's the same with

528
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: so many where I'm like they seem like could even

529
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: be fucked up people. But the people that talk shit

530
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: about them are so fucked it's any situation where you're like, yeah,

531
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: y'all are wrong, like like y'all make it easy, like

532
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: y'all make her job easier, Like amber Rose has one

533
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: of the easiest jobs in my opinion, because the people

534
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: she's talking to are so fucked up, like they are

535
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: misogynistic and they're not even like it's not like people

536
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: will be like, well, she didn't go to school for there,

537
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: so she it's not like she got a feminist critical

538
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 2: feminist theory or something like. She don't even need it

539
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: for what she got or what she's doing. It's like

540
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: she's going and talking to people on podcasts that refer

541
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: to all women as bitches and holes. The job, the

542
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: bar is low. She's not going. She doesn't need to

543
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: go talk to Bellhoks, Like she doesn't need to go

544
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: speak at a symposium. She doesn't need to go be

545
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: a panelist or some shit on some conference. She doesn't

546
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: even need to do it, because mother, our society is

547
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: so fucked up. She'll she can just go and say

548
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: basic shit like I just believe women should have the

549
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: choice and freedom to wear whatever they want, and that's

550
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: gonna be liker nuclear bomb, right, just just something that simple. So,

551
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, I think people have made her job easy,

552
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of times it's this kind of shit

553
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: that makes her job easy because you know, it seems

554
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: like it would, you know. And then the other things

555
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: with the internet, you can run to the internet and

556
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: people that didn't see something, but I won't want to

557
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: believe the worst in people. They'll retweet it and they'll

558
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: share it. So I'm sure there's a ton of people

559
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: that didn't even see it that was like, mm yep,

560
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: she was laughing at molestation because I think it's funny.

561
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: It's like and that's you know, and of course the

562
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: I told you so, like the first person was like

563
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I told y'all, I ain't fall for it.

564
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of your fave.

565
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that kind of shit. So ye, but yeah, they

566
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: make the job easy for it because I'll see I

567
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: do at least statement and be like that, y'all know

568
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: that's not what happened, right, And then everybody goes, oh, yeah,

569
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: that does sound way more fucking plausible, because you would

570
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: also have to be a fucking idiot to fuck up

571
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: your paper like that, like you would like literally you

572
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: would have to be like, I just don't want to

573
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: make money no more. I've decided I only have this

574
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: one thing that I'm really getting paid for and getting

575
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: famous for. Let me just throw that shit in the

576
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: trash real quick and laugh at a victim of molestation

577
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: because hey, I don't want this job.

578
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Don't make sense?

579
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want these millions, Like, but yeah, they

580
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: just end up making her. It's I mean said, they

581
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: just end up making her right over and over and

582
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. It's just like, yeah,

583
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: she's gonna make money off this ship, probably to the

584
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: day she dies, because there will always be some dumb

585
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: ass trying to call her out her name and disrespect her.

586
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: She's gonna always be able to be like, Nope, you know,

587
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: all right, let's get into some other stuff. How about this.

588
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 8: There is something.

589
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: I wanna ask you. There's something that I want to know.

590
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Is to this question, you have the answer, So tell me.

591
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: I want to know. Do you wanna funk? Do you

592
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: wanna funk? Won't you tell me now?

593
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 8: Won't you tell me now? If you wanna funk?

594
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: Let me show you how? Do you want a fund

595
00:31:53,200 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: with me? Do you wanna fun with me? God, this

596
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: all made me feel so good. Same sex divorce Pennsylvania

597
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Court voice ruling blocking women from any states civil union.

598
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: Uh FRIEDA. Neeman and Florence Buckley couldn't legally marry in

599
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania in two thousand and two, but the women can

600
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: legally get divorced here. In twenty sixteen, a state Superior

601
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Court panel rude Wednesday, Now, this is something funny because

602
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: I remember making a joke on the show years ago. Wow, uh,

603
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: wonder women Republicans gonna give up on same sex marriage

604
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: to start going out to same sex divorce because everybody

605
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: wants to get married. But if you take away to

606
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: write the divorce, now that's some cruel, unusual punishment because

607
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: now you've stuck with this motherfucker forever. That was a joke.

608
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: Apparently Republicans in twenty sixteen, it was like, you know what,

609
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: you know, why don't we try to block same sex divorce.

610
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: You can't make this shit up, is what I'm saying.

611
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: You can't make this ship up. So the decision is set.

612
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: In an opinion by Senior Judge James J. Fitzgerald, third

613
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: overturns of Philadelphia County Family Family Court judges findings that

614
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: she lacked the authority to dissolve a civil union the

615
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: same sex couple entered into fourteen years ago in Vermont.

616
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: So basically, the civil the Family Court judge is like,

617
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't have the jurisdiction to say y'all are divorced,

618
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: So y'all gotta stay together. Because back in fourteen years

619
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: ago when you got married, you could only get married

620
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: in like one state, so you know, and even still

621
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: now you have, even with the Supreme Court ruling on

622
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: marriage equalities, you still got states that are like, Nope,

623
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: not recognizing that, Nope, not giving you a license, Nope,

624
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: And who knows how much worse it's gonna get come.

625
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, the point being, this judge was basically like, well,

626
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: since it's in a different state, I'm not gonna I'm

627
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: not gonna grant you a divorce. But the Senior Court,

628
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: the senior judge did granted. Fitzgerald noted that his court

629
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: ruling is one of the few yet issues issued to

630
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: address how Pennsylvania should handle the dissolution of same sex's

631
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: marriages and civil unions that were entered into out of

632
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: state before such marriages became legal throughout the US. In

633
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, the Superior Course conclusion. It's that Pennsylvania Course

634
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: must regard Vermont civil unions as the functional equivalent of

635
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: marriages sanctioned by the Keystone State. That means Pennsylvania's divorce

636
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: law applies to them as well. Fitzgerald found, Yeah, this

637
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: is a landmark decision. I mean, it's actually pretty it's

638
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: actually good news, to be honest, if it's at some

639
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: type of president, somebody had to step up and set

640
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: and set some president. And I know divorce doesn't seem

641
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: like such a happy thing, but it is very happy

642
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: for people stuck in bad marriag. So I'm sure that

643
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: the motherfuckers are happy as shit that this judge is

644
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: like and y'all can.

645
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: Split it, right, So you're gonna have people like married

646
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 4: and just not living together and just not acknowledging each other,

647
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: but legally they quote unquote un married.

648
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also still a stripping of somebody's humanity

649
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: that they can't get divorced, like the same way we

650
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: say marriage is a stripping of your humanity because you

651
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: can't get married, getting divorced is also a stripping of

652
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: your humanity. If we say you can't do it, like

653
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: equality is equality in every way, like it can't be

654
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: equal sometimes and then not, you know at any rate?

655
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Uh good, you know. So what else did it say?

656
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

657
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so as a state judge noted Niemen and Buckley

658
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: and into the civil Union in July two thousand and two,

659
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: at the time when Vermont was the first state in

660
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: the US to recognize Saint Section unions. The couple separated

661
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: five months later. Oh man, that's that cliche joke that

662
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: all the comedians were making about I don't want, say

663
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: sex marriage to pass because my gay you know, like

664
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: I may end up getting married to somebody just because

665
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: we gay, and now they gonna want to do it

666
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: to make a statement. But I don't want to marry

667
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: this motherfucker. Yo. They really had that happen, Like they

668
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: went and got married to be like we could do

669
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: it to find months So it's like, I hate your draws.

670
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: I hate everything about you. You stink. Oh why did

671
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: I not know? You don't pay rent on time?

672
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: Tell everybody marriage ain't ain't y'all you fucking on my

673
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 4: credit illusions in twenty fourteen work.

674
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, yo. So in two thousand and two, they

675
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: split after five months. Twenty fourteen is when they decided

676
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: to file AFFI Davis that consentence as all their civil union.

677
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: That's a long gas time.

678
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: And they founded the Maybe I wonder if maybe, like

679
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes like certain groups look for cases to

680
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: put money behind to get precedent like this established. I

681
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: wonder if that's what happened, possibility, you know, because that's

682
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: a long like at that point, it's almost like who

683
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: gives a fuck? Or maybe since they new marriage equality

684
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: might be about the pass, maybe they were like, well, shit,

685
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: I need to get out of my old marriage. I

686
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: can't get up with no new booth thing.

687
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: You know.

688
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: There was like Queen Sugar, you know, and he was like,

689
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: all damn, I forgot to tell you I'm I'm already married.

690
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: Ohk Ain't watching mean, Sugar? What I'm talking about?

691
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 8: Y'all?

692
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: You did?

693
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 9: Wat?

694
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, all right, I guess you watched up to

695
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: that point.

696
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: I washed up to that point.

697
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: Someone like gonna come take a black woman car one day,

698
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: hand m you're gonna be trying to go buy something

699
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: from Salad Beauty Supplies. They're gonna smack your get out

700
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: of my store. What you're doing you go shop for

701
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: perk plus at the supermarket with the rest of the

702
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: white women.

703
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: I know you ain't watched Insecure. You ain't watched Queen Sugar.

704
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: Uh. Let's see what else. Saporo to join other cities

705
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: and recognizing same sex partnerships as marriages. Saporo aims to

706
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: become the latest city in Japan in our same sex

707
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: partnerships is equivalent to marriage to address discrimination its sexual minorities.

708
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: Local official said Thursday, the capital of Hokkayto plans to

709
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: draw up guidelines by next March, with an eye to

710
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: launching the certification of gay couples by the end of

711
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: March twenty eighteen. Yeah, that's kind of dope. Other municipalities

712
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: throughout the nation having introduced similar arrangements, including Tokyo, Shibuya

713
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: and Setagay Awards, and the cities of Aiga and Me Prefecture,

714
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: taker Takarazuka in Hyogo Prefecture, and Naha in Okinawa Prefecture.

715
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: Sapporo hopes to will host the twenty twenty six Winter Olympics.

716
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay okay, Yeah, and the Olympic Charter bands discrimination

717
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: based on sexual irritation. Hey, you know what progress is progress.

718
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: God damn it.

719
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, they did it because they had to.

720
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: They was like, oh, we want that money. They was like, yo,

721
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: oh women, we got changed. So I was like, y'all

722
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: know we gotta changed it all. What have got? You

723
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: haven't got changed the law. They ain't gonna come.

724
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

725
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, cool man, they coming around. Nope,

726
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: some money.

727
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: Money would cause progress too, ship I should. I've got

728
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: to the point where I can't. If I can't plead

729
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: my humanity based off of your morale, I can plead

730
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 4: to your my humility based off of money.

731
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean for the most part, I

732
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: don't really believe in good faith relationships like that anyway,

733
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: So whatever, but.

734
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah it changed.

735
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for good for you guys. You know, it's

736
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: like the Women's March, Like you see them big ass crowds,

737
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: and you know, there's a whole bunch of reasons to

738
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: be resentful, but there's also a bunch of reasons to

739
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: be like, well, good they came out. You know, look

740
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: at that big ass crowd. That's a lot of people

741
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: making a statement together. Good job, you know what I mean. Uh,

742
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how I feel about this shit

743
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: was like, Oh cool, y'all gonna finally recognize the humanity

744
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: of your citizens. That Oh it's forhot the Olympics. Okay, cool, good,

745
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: good job.

746
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Just fuck it longer than the Olympics. I hope the

747
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: Olympics don't come, y'all, but you.

748
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: Know what we gonna? I don't know. I can't even

749
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: I mean, can I judge?

750
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: Who?

751
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: Who are me to judge? In North Carolina, well, we

752
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: had to lose all our sports ship for They started

753
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: being like, maybe we should vote this biggot out. I

754
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 2: don't know. We still ain't. We still ain't got HB

755
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: two off the books, so we can't judge. Uh support

756
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: ol Man caught the sure wait. Katsu hero I Keim

757
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: Mooto received a request in June from a civic group

758
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: supporting lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people for the established

759
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: for establishing the system to recognize such partnerships. With the

760
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: population of nearly two million, the city has been studying

761
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: ways to introduce such a system based on president set

762
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: by places like the Award. Yeah, it's always weird when

763
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: those country these are places that don't recognize it. I

764
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: guess what people try to be like gay people don't

765
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: ain't no gay people. You're like, come on, dog. You

766
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: know y'all got millions of people here. Come on, come on.

767
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Nobody got one too.

768
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: Nobody in the Middle East gay dog.

769
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: Nobody, Come on.

770
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Dog, Come on dog, Come on and be just be honest.

771
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

772
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: China's tongue quei the millions of straight women married to

773
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: closeted gay men. The world is so tiring. Just let

774
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: it finish. Everything is gone. Shortly after posting these words

775
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: on her microblog long Wing, a thirty one year old

776
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: professor Sichuan University, stepped off a thirteen story building.

777
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: Holy shit.

778
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, she got real, just real quick, didn't it. If

779
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: it wasn't for her husband, her death would have been

780
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: just another footnote in the metro section of the Chong

781
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Queen Daily. Instead of her death became something of a

782
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: touchdown in China, igniting public debate over a little known issue.

783
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Lou hong Ling was a tong qui, or one of

784
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: the estimated millions of heterosexual women in China married to

785
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: closeted gay men. A day before her death, her husband

786
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Ching jing Sing had posted a public message to her

787
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: on his microblog, Lou, I'm sorry I'm gay and I

788
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: cheated on you. The reason I married you was to

789
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: hide the fact that I'm gay. Oh damn, we put

790
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: that shit in the public too, right.

791
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: Though.

792
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: China decriminalized homosexuality in nineteen ninety seven. Oh cool, it's

793
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: been twenty years, where you get it's not criminal to

794
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: be gay. It remained classified as a mental illness into

795
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, So from ninety seventy two thousand

796
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: and one, it is like, no, no, no, no, no, no,

797
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: he's not a criminal. He's just crazy. You know, she's

798
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: just crazy for vagina, y'all. She can't help herself, you

799
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: know what. Though, still parts of America where they classified

800
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: as some type of mental illness or people think it

801
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: is because then they'll try to put you through some

802
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: type of retraining for your sexuality. So I mean, can

803
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: who want me to judge? Again? According to a twenty

804
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: thirteen PE survey, only twenty one percent of Chinese people

805
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: approved of homosexuality. Just this March, the government banded depictions

806
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: of some homosexuality on film and TV is pornographic or vulgar,

807
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: putting in the same category as portrayals of incests and

808
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: sexual abuse. Wow, once again, people taking and queer sexuality

809
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: and being like it's the same as being a pedophile

810
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: or criminal.

811
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: It's not.

812
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't put in a movie dog what is

813
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: wrong with the world?

814
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh, but then that explains this. For those of you

815
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: that watch Steven Universe.

816
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 10: Stephen Universe, Uh okay, the gyms and Stephen Universe, two

817
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 10: of the gyms combined to make one gym, and the

818
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 10: two gyms that combine are portrayed as both female and.

819
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: A lot of times to combine, they like do a

820
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: little dance, and a lot of.

821
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: The dances they're not sexual dances.

822
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: But you know, it's thrusting other hips and and things

823
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: like that. And I think two gyms combined to make Garnet,

824
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 4: which is actually the for those of you who watch

825
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: Steven Universe.

826
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: It's the tallest gym.

827
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: And I assume that she's black, you know, going by

828
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: her color and skin tone and things like that.

829
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: And in uh.

830
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 4: Part and I think it might be over there, but

831
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 4: I know in certain parts of the world. They actually

832
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: edited the American version because they say that the two

833
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 4: female gems, because you know, they hug and all that stuff,

834
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: they're very close. They re edited to take a lot

835
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 4: of that out and I'm like, but it's a cartoon.

836
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna teach the kids to be Gato

837
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: Karens And how would the kids ever be? I remember

838
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: as a straight kid growing up, it's I was like,

839
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what I am. And then I saw

840
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: a dudes say I want to have sex with a woman.

841
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: I said, oh, okay, I'm just gonna do what he

842
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: does know.

843
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: And also, the thing about Steven Universe, Stephen Universe has

844
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 4: it's a beautifully told story and it has a lot

845
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: of it has a lot of strong female characters and

846
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: Steven but strong female characters.

847
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: And I think you mean and.

848
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 4: Stephen, Yes, and Stephen, And I think that a lot

849
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: of people, for some reason, they.

850
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: Just have these hang ups.

851
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you edited out certain things out

852
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: of that cartoon. You actually are stripping the storyline because

853
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: the things that they are angry about ain't a big thing.

854
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: Because I guess here in America I see the full

855
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: version of it, and it's not a big thing. They

856
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: show their love for each other, they say they're in

857
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: love with each other. You know, they can't live without

858
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 4: each other.

859
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: In the gay evil love? Is that what you're trying

860
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: to say.

861
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 4: No, it's not gay, it's actually really really sweet.

862
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: Well, we got to take it out the cartoon, Okay,

863
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: we don't need the kids seeing loving relationship between people

864
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: of the same sex, Karen. It's just not good for anybody,

865
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: and it's the only way to make sure that kids

866
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: will never ever ever be anything but straight unless they

867
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: see something on a cartoon didn't change everything about their life. Meanwhile,

868
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: you got motherfuckers jumping out the side of the buildings

869
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: cause they husband is out here like I'm gay, and

870
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: niggas like, well, I guess I got to kill myself

871
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: because we have a huge hang up about it in

872
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: our society, right, So.

873
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: You couldn't divorce me years ago start waste my time?

874
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean, but who knows what his life is experiences

875
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: like I mean, I'm not saying it's fair, but who

876
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: knows what the fuck he would have to go through

877
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: to be an openly gay man. It might not be

878
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: like it is here, Like it might not not that

879
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: it's great here either, but it might not even be

880
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: what it is here, Like, oh, nigga, you gay, Like

881
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: that might get you thrown in jail in nineteen ninety seven,

882
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: So you damn right, you gotta start marrying people. You know,

883
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: like if in nineteen ninety seven, if you were gay,

884
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: you could be thrown in jail in this country until

885
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and one. It's a mental health issue. They

886
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: can put you somewhere where you gotta get So, even

887
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: for that person, as sad as it would seemed to

888
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: quote unquote waste somebody else's time or to fuck up

889
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: somebody else's life, that's still survival for you. That I mean,

890
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: it sucks for that person that gets stuck quote unquote

891
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: in that relationship. But I mean maybe he was trying

892
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: to survive.

893
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, I understand that.

894
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: I guess my problem is you could have told me

895
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: this probably you publicly put this on the goddamn public

896
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 4: message board for you to come out.

897
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: Well, then you could have divorced me.

898
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, that part does seem fucked up. I'm not. I'm not.

899
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's not fucked up. You know, I don't. Yeah,

900
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean that did seem because.

901
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: It was public then, but then you know, let's come

902
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: on and be all public all about it all the time.

903
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: Then I didn't.

904
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 4: Then once you came out and said I'm gay, which is.

905
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: Very difficult to do.

906
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: You put it on their public Facebook whatever everybody knew then.

907
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: Okay, so.

908
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: You're gonna get criticized, and I'm gonna get criticized because

909
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: they're gonna be like, you married a gay person.

910
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: How did you not know they were gay?

911
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: So it's one of these things where maybe it's just

912
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: me and how I functioned. You could have talked to

913
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: me about this behind the scenes. You didn't have to

914
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: make this public.

915
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: Like she may have.

916
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 4: Jumped out, she may have jumped out of you know.

917
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand. I don't know that. So are

918
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: you trying you say you feel like he was responsible

919
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: for her killing himselfthing or.

920
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say he's one hundred pcent responsible, but

921
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say he didn't contribute to it.

922
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a little I mean, I wonder if he knew.

923
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot that could be happening

924
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. I don't feel comfortable with expressing. I

925
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: don't I don't feel comfortable talking about it. I don't

926
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: know what that relationship was like, Like, I don't know

927
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: if he meant it Petty, I don't know if it

928
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: was like his own like moment where everybody comes out

929
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: in different ways, it's his declaration. I don't know. They

930
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: could have hated each other guts by then. I have

931
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: no fucking ideas, So I don't want to say what

932
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: his purpose could have been.

933
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just speaking off of what I know, based

934
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: off what you told me.

935
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: The only thing we know is that she did kill usself. Correct,

936
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: That's it. I don't you know me. I've had very

937
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: unpopular opinions about suicide on here, so I don't know

938
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: that I would ever blame somebody else for somebody's suicide

939
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: in any situation. Really, But yeah, they found out only

940
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: eighteen percent of game man come out to their families.

941
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: In a new study, they did their parents' generation was

942
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: raised in the tail end of the mile error, where

943
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: the comprehensive general education was disrupted by the upheavals of

944
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: the cultural revolution and sex said was non existent. Wish

945
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Lanterns author alec Ash, who has written about the lives

946
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: of young people in China, says that the cultural di

947
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: vibe between parents and their children is enormous. It would

948
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: be the equivalent of if my parents were born in

949
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: the eighteen eighty. I had only a hazy understand in

950
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: what homosexuality was when I married my wife, and I

951
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: had no idea that your sexual orientation is something that

952
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: you can't change, said help out. Pronounces right, but it

953
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: looks like Giowa Baba, one of the subjects of a

954
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: queer filmmaker Fan Popo's latest documentary, Papa Rainbow, as he

955
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: admits in the film he is gay but married to

956
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: a woman. Despite the geographic proximity in his hometown kang

957
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: Jaut to Bla Jing. There were, there are there are

958
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: world apart in terms of attitude towards LGBTQ people, It's

959
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: a simple place. The prevailing attitude towards gays is one

960
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: of non acceptance and discrimination, he told Bradley. He says

961
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: that he was introduced to his wife through a matchmaker,

962
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: which was not uncommon in the early nineties. When they met.

963
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: At the time, he wasn't sure if he was gay,

964
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: so he went ahead with the marriage, convinced that his

965
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: interest in men was just a naive, youthful fantasy, the

966
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: manifestation of his pente sexual frustration. I still had feelings

967
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: for men. They never stopped. And then when the Internet arrived,

968
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: I learned what being gay meant, that it was something

969
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: in ay and that I wouldn't be able to do

970
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: anything about it. When he married his wife, homosexuality was

971
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: still a criminal offense for him, as well as an

972
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: entire generation of queer men and women in China. There

973
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: was very little way of understanding that sexual orientation before

974
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: the Internet came along. So, yeah, what do you do

975
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: when you don't have the tools that we take for

976
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: granted over here to simply be like, like, even if

977
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: it's contested, and even though there's pockets of America where

978
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: people are exactly like this, what do you do when

979
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: you don't you know, at least to some extent, we

980
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: had the tools here in a large part for people

981
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: to be like, oh, okay, that's what gay means, or

982
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: this is one theory on what gayness is or queerness

983
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: is or whatever. What do you do when you have

984
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: you know, you live a place where they're like, we

985
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: just ain't teaching you shit. Everybody straight and if you

986
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: think you're not straight, something wrong with you. But you straight,

987
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: and you're gonna go to jail if you think otherwise.

988
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of fucking lesson is that I

989
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: can see how you end up getting married, you know,

990
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: I can see how you be like, well, let me

991
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: just get married, then fuck it right now, I figured

992
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: this out as I go along in life. Maybe one

993
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: day I'll stop wanting us.

994
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 4: Right and and and I do understand what you're saying

995
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: about surviving, because it's one of those things like once

996
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 4: you get so old, you probably stop questioning when you're older.

997
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Now, why don't you got a wife? Why don't you

998
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: have children? You know, So it's that.

999
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: Price get it to your person or you know what

1000
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: clubes do you go to? Who do you hang out with?

1001
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: I mean, look at in Africa in some places, uh

1002
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: like Uganda, like they ostracize the entire community of people

1003
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: that are lgbt Q, and they like follow motherfuckers around,

1004
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: harass them, look for where they hang out to like

1005
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: shut it down, shut down marches, all this shit, Like

1006
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: it's you're living a dangerous life just being openly gay.

1007
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: And then if you're even if you're in a closet

1008
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: or if you're trying to like find a community of

1009
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 2: people where y'all can be discreetly yourselves amongst each other,

1010
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: it's still always under threat. Like it's still just one

1011
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: police raid from being fucked up. America has that history too,

1012
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, of rating establishments that catered to LGBTQ people.

1013
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: Police will come in and fucking beat people up and

1014
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: arrest people and ship you know, I know, Stonewall is

1015
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: a major landmark. I think the I think my thing.

1016
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: I think the Obama administration actually made a historical landmark,

1017
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: like recognized by the United States. But yeah, like there's yeah,

1018
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: that story is a very old story and I can

1019
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: only imagine it's like that other places. So who knows

1020
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: the literally life and death decision you might have to

1021
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: make when it comes to like, fuck, what am I

1022
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: gonna do? I guess I need to just get married. Yeah,

1023
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: like at least I got some level of cover to

1024
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: my life now. And like I said, it sucks other

1025
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 2: people are involved, But to me, that's the government's fault.

1026
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: It made people have to be involved because they are

1027
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: trying to fuck these people up. Like you know what

1028
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean. It's like blaming me for shoplifting if the

1029
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: government won't let me work, you know what I mean,

1030
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: Like nigga at some point don't gotta eat anyway. So

1031
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: it goes on to say I have a metaphor. He said,

1032
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: if a mong being never encounters water, is likely to

1033
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: always be a monk being. But if it gets water

1034
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: and the soil is ripe, an environment is good and

1035
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 2: it's warm, then it will sprout. And once that happens,

1036
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: it can never return to being a monk being. Oh,

1037
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: that's a good ass analogy. Zang be Sean, a professor

1038
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: at Queen Dow University Medical School, is a leading scholar

1039
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: in Tongqui. The corridor outside his office has no windows

1040
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: and the lights were broken. To find it out to

1041
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: use a flashlight on my phone. Due to the nature

1042
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: of his research, his office is not on campus. He

1043
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: has had to relocate to an apartment block and then

1044
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 2: remarkablue gray building lost in Queen Dow's urban sprawl. Zang

1045
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: is a heroic figure in the LGBTQ community here. As

1046
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: a medical research in the la eighties, he was one

1047
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: of the first in the country to identify the growing

1048
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: HIV epidemic and write about it in non discriminatory terms.

1049
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety nine, his research in the China's queer

1050
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: community took on an unexpected turn. A woman came in

1051
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 2: his office crime and told him that she had unwillingly

1052
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: entered into a share marriage with a gay man. Zang's

1053
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: conservative gases that there's at least ten million straight women

1054
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: in China marry the gay man. Wow. Similarly, researched by

1055
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: Chinese sexologist Lee Yini or maybe the Gene put the

1056
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: figure at around sixteen million, and research quoted in Yale

1057
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: Anthropologist touched ten Tang Zang's twenty fifteen study puts the

1058
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: figure at nineteen million, which is about the population of Romania,

1059
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: so up to possibly nineteen million people. And then yeah,

1060
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: and now plus they have a huge population.

1061
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're the highest population close to if not

1062
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: in the world. Like, it's a lot of people over there.

1063
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: And according to Zay's research, by the way, we only

1064
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: talking about the government. And I think this next thing

1065
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: is crucial because I hadn't even said this, but I

1066
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: was thinking that we're not talking about the family pressure.

1067
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: This is the government, you know what I mean. People

1068
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: are in the closet just here where it's just like

1069
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: because your family is like nope, I ain't Nope. We

1070
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: go to Jesus Christ, a Latter day Saints or whatever

1071
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: church and your ass can't be gay. Because we say so.

1072
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: Right, And then people wonder why a lot of these

1073
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 4: children get older, get grown, move away, and never bring

1074
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 4: their asses back.

1075
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they'd be like, well, what happened they

1076
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: don't know?

1077
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: Nope, that's why we have gay hub cities like Atlanta

1078
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: and Shit and d a certain place. Cause's like, yo,

1079
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: I can't be who I want to be and who

1080
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: I am around y'all.

1081
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: Right, And then you have a lot of people who

1082
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: have always been accepted for who they are trying to

1083
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: act like there's something wrong with these people when these

1084
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: people are like I don't deal with my family, I

1085
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: don't mess with my family, I don't get along with

1086
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: my family.

1087
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, fuck my family.

1088
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: And you know, it's people who are in a privileged

1089
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: place where they've been blessed enough where they family has

1090
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 4: always accepted them for who they are, that they never

1091
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: had to deal with that, They never had to deal

1092
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: with families that rejected you, and never had to deal

1093
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: with low ones that don't accept you for who you are,

1094
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: have to deal with low ones who literally put you.

1095
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: Out as a teenager.

1096
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: You're homeless as a teenager because of your sexual orientation.

1097
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: Yup. So yeah, according to research, eighty percent of gay

1098
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: men and trying to have due to the toxic combination

1099
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: of family and societal pressure, and then into traditional marriages

1100
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: of straight women. Social security social security and China is

1101
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: notoriously basic, and children still carry the burden of supporting

1102
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: their elders. For LGBTQ people, these family obligations ratchet up

1103
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 2: the pressure to remain closet, and it goes some way

1104
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: to explain why gay men like Ching Jinshing feel compelled

1105
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: to marry head on sexual women. Ju Chin discovered her

1106
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: husband was gay at seeing text from a lover on

1107
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: his phone. High beautiful one rege your body makes me

1108
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: too excited for him today, I'll never let another person

1109
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: touch me. At first, she resigned herself to the fact

1110
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: that her husband had taken a lover, but curiosity compelled

1111
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: her to call then unknown number. Of course, I assume

1112
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: it was a girl. But when I called the number,

1113
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 2: I found I was speaking to a man. I thought

1114
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: I had the wrong number, but I tried again and

1115
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: got through the same person, and the text continued from

1116
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: them to my husband. That's how I knew. You know

1117
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: another thing, They're not even talking about women, So articles

1118
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: about gay men feeling a certain way.

1119
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 5: A lot of.

1120
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: Gay women probably marriage straight men do.

1121
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: Her partner refused to grant her divorced, saying that it

1122
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a big deal. Her father agreed, she says, telling

1123
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: her that she had unrealistic aspirations for marriage as they

1124
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: had young children together. She decided to compromise allow her

1125
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: husband to keep his lovers, but she also demanded that

1126
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: she and her husband stopped sleeping together or sharing a bed.

1127
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, she found a bottle Appeals in the bathroom.

1128
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: After looking up his label on the search engine by Doo,

1129
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: she discovered that they would have drug.

1130
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 6: For HIV treatment. Her husband have become HIV positive. Oh

1131
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 6: Zag says, over thirty percent of ton QUI will contract

1132
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 6: the sexual transmitted disease.

1133
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: For many, this is how they discover that their husbands

1134
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: sleep with men. So many women honkui are the women

1135
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: in the marriage. They will get an STD and that's

1136
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: how they find out, Oh, my husband is sleeping with dudes.

1137
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Around ten percent of ton quik attempt suicidey ads, wow,

1138
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: that is a high ass number. In his office, he

1139
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: gestures towards the rows of filing cabinets to sit floor

1140
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: to ceiling. They contain thousands of letters and correspond ascent

1141
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: for women in these sham marriages. Zay has recently begun

1142
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: digitizing his archive with the help of assistance. They have

1143
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: scanned forty three thousand pages so far. This isn't just

1144
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: an LGBTQ problem. It is a whole society problem. Queen

1145
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: Dow Agriculture University is far on the outskirts of the city.

1146
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: Leo Tin Yang, a programmer and student, had started a

1147
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: we Chat account a QQ group for tong Quei called

1148
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: ton Quee Family. QQ was Chinese social media app optimized

1149
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: for group messages, so it must be like our What's

1150
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: App with administrators who control who enters the conversation. Ton

1151
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: Que's family is one of the liveliest and of such group.

1152
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: We met at the gates and we walked together along

1153
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: a tree line street a circle of the campus. Small

1154
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: road side food stands did a brisk trade the smoke,

1155
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: the smoke from small coal fire barbecues, mingland with the

1156
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: miss that had rolled in from the sea. I saw

1157
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: quite a few articles online about ton Que and I

1158
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: realized there wasn't a space for them to talk about

1159
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: what they had going through right as they discovered their

1160
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: husbands might be gay. In the months after we met,

1161
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: countless women joined the group and asked for advice. Almost daily,

1162
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: a new woman enters the group at us fools her

1163
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: story before seventeen hundred members. One new member detailed her

1164
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: suspicions about her husband and increasingly frantic messages at the

1165
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: finding sex toys and lurecan in their house. The ton

1166
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: Quei phenomenon doesn't just highlight the pleasure the pressures felt

1167
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: by homosexual men in China. It also underlines the social

1168
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: pressures of women feeling to get married.

1169
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: That's true, too, right, because they pressure hard.

1170
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah well. The popular term she knew left over women

1171
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: as usual to describe any woman over the age of

1172
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: thirty who has yet to settle down and find a man.

1173
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: Some women end up marrying quickly without long term dating

1174
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: and cohabitation common in the West. Man Low Hong Lee

1175
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: wait Lo Hong Ling, who was active in the online

1176
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: support community similar to ton Quei's family, had only they

1177
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: their husband for five or six months before they married.

1178
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: In all, she had known her husband for less than

1179
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: a year before she took her She took her life. Wow, Wow, yeah,

1180
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I can see how that would Yeah, I

1181
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: can see how that would would happen, man, because if

1182
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: you do got that extra I mean, women feel that

1183
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: pressure here. But if you got that like they got

1184
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: a word for your ass, like ye, like you know

1185
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, Oh, she's just a leftover woman.

1186
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 2: Look at her, thirty one, done with life right, all

1187
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: dried up.

1188
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: My life would have been a little time right.

1189
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: And we all know that. I mean, black don't crack,

1190
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: but yellow don't mellow.

1191
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: Man.

1192
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: If you're looking young forever, man, I don't believe that shit.

1193
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: Thirty and you.

1194
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: Done on life on life, on life, on life.

1195
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: Niggas going to the club like she said she was

1196
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: thirty two.

1197
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: Can you believe that?

1198
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so, man. In two thousand and five,

1199
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: IT specialist Lynn High was working in the southern province

1200
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: of Guang Sea when one of his friends had was

1201
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: injured in an industrial accident. Unable to perform sexually, his

1202
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: friend became desponding a suicidal Lynn High thought that there

1203
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: must be more people like his friend out there and

1204
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: started a website called w X nine twenty. The WX

1205
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: stands for wooshin which means non sexual. He originally intended

1206
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: as a dating site for those who are a sexual

1207
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: unable to perform sexually through disease accident, but he began

1208
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: noticing that gay men and women would jordan the site

1209
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: to look for shame share marriages to food their parents.

1210
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, cool, this person a relationship where

1211
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't have to have sex, but I can officially

1212
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: be married and then people won't be able to judge me.

1213
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: The demand led to him creating to spin off website

1214
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: called China Gales dot com designers pivotage to explicitly allow

1215
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: gays and lesbians to marry each other. Wow, he says.

1216
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: A website mark has roughly five hundred thousand members has

1217
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: been matched nearly fifty thousand couples. Wow.

1218
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: Mar He was like, why come over here.

1219
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 4: Legally the loss have changed and we make a site

1220
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 4: where y'all can meet each other versus Yeah, I.

1221
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: Know, but that still speaks to the societal pressure of

1222
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: y'all have to be married. So look now y'all can

1223
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: both kind of hide together meet on the man that

1224
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: if that site got hacked, that would fuck up so

1225
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: many people's lives. Correct, whoo and man, that's that's wild.

1226
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: These share marriages are called seeing She hungying which marriage

1227
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: in form is what it means, which is roughly the

1228
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: compromise that ju Chin has ended up having with her

1229
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: own gay husband. After discovering he had HIV. She worried

1230
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: that leaving him and separating him from their children would

1231
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: likely be a death sentence he will stop taking the

1232
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: HIV medicine. She explained that sex lives are still completely separate,

1233
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: which means she remains HIV negative. When I asked her

1234
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: if her husband was actively dated, she said, I don't know,

1235
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: and I don't ask. She told me that she is

1236
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: dated other men in the past, but now but by

1237
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: now I'm jaded. I don't really see myself falling in

1238
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: love again at present. The fragile compromise of her family

1239
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: sees her stay at home raising her children while her

1240
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: husband works in the other cities earning money. My friends

1241
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: tell me I have nothing to complain about. He provides

1242
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: for me, but they don't know the reality. That's the worst.

1243
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: R king your friends like girl, just be happy you

1244
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: got a man. While Lean Heights American Yeah when Lean

1245
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: High website. Leen High's website allows couples to be upfront

1246
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: with each other from the outset. It's a band aid

1247
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: and not a cure. It might buy where people respike

1248
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: from family pressure, but it doesn't sound to underlying issue

1249
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: that the family struggle to accept them for who they are.

1250
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: Until that happens, the best they can hope for is

1251
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: an uneasy compromise of socially accepted but sexless marriage. Man.

1252
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 2: So anyway, man, that's uh, that's that's just that's that's

1253
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: some ship from China, like right right, It's like, damn,

1254
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: don't that sound really fucking familiar? I mean some of

1255
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: the ship is a little different, but so much of

1256
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: that ship is the same.

1257
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of people here think you but

1258
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: thirty one, you're dead too.

1259
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: All around the world, same sound, same song. All right,

1260
01:06:50,320 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: let's do some motherfucking with black people. Guys. We're just

1261
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: fucking with those black people. We're just fucking with those blacks.

1262
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with fucking with black people. That's right, guys.

1263
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Time to play the game that we all hate to play.

1264
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: It's fucking with black people. The game. We go all

1265
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: the way the globe will side different points scores from

1266
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: zero the one hundred, and it was a twenty five.

1267
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: How much we feel fucked with the black people today.

1268
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: It's contestants for everybody. The Internet branded her racist? Does

1269
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: it matter that she's bipolar? Karen No. It all started

1270
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: last week when Heather Wick logged onto her now deleted

1271
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: Facebook page and wrote do you think Trump will bring

1272
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: back slavery? I could use a maid brin Brian Brown

1273
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: wow reaction with swift as the post went viral. The

1274
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: forty four year old Burlington woman says she has been

1275
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: deluded with death thuds upward through a three hundred per

1276
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: hour I'll be wanting to see these death threats, right,

1277
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: I can't be the only one. I'm not listen. I'm

1278
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: not saying it's not possible. It's highly possible. I just

1279
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: be wanting to see them because racist people stay saying

1280
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: some real froggy shit and then being like I got

1281
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 2: death treat and that is above the line, and I'm like, okay,

1282
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: but I would like to see them, Like, bitch, your

1283
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: credibility is shot, is what I'm saying. I would like

1284
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: to see them. I'm not saying you lying. I just

1285
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: would like to see them for my own peace of

1286
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: mind because a lot of people be saying they getting death.

1287
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: I just put on black face and said Niggers are

1288
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: stupid and now I got death trets. What is wrong

1289
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: with these black people?

1290
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Speaker 1: I'm like objecting what you're saying.

1291
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I created a h I created a meme of

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01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 2: it's a picture of a horness nest and there's a

1293
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: picture of Johnny Depp and pots of the Caribbean. He

1294
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: running from all them black people beginning where they're trying

1295
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: to like or maybe they're not black, but it's a

1296
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: bunch of people in like a tribe, and they trying

1297
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: to kill him, and he running away. And at the

1298
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: top it's like it says kicks the horness nest, and

1299
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 2: on the bottom is like, I'm the real victim here

1300
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 2: when he was running away. People do that shit a

1301
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: lot on the Internet, where it's like they do they

1302
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: could be mind, they could just mind their own business,

1303
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: but they start some shit and then when then, when

1304
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: the very fucking predictable outcome of people going motherfucking fuck

1305
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: you happens, they go, why are you doing this to me?

1306
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: I just expressed an opinion that black people are apes,

1307
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: and you guys came at me. I don't understand. We

1308
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 2: were all wanted the women's March yesterday and today, you

1309
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: guys are already tripping on me. A reaction with Swift

1310
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: as the post wentenviral. Blah blah blah. The phone calls

1311
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: came from across the country, originating in the states such

1312
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: as Texas, Illinois, Indiana, New York, and South Carolina. She

1313
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: doesn't answer the phone, which rings incessantly, but the callers

1314
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: have leave voicemail saying some of the most nasty things

1315
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: about imaginable racist go to hell. You're a nasty woman.

1316
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: One man hissed, that's the most nasty thing. Okay, oh

1317
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: ha ha, get a sense of human No, shut the

1318
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: fuck up with your racist fucking jokes. Bitch, fuck you.

1319
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to fucking die and go

1320
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: to hell. And I'm not going to do that. You're

1321
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 2: just going to do that on your own, You fucking

1322
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: son of a bitch. Kill yourself. Well, you know that

1323
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: is a very mean thing to say. That's not a

1324
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: death threat technically, but it's mean. Wick told Seven Days

1325
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: in the phone interview Thursday that the post stayed up

1326
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: for three days. One of her four brothers called and

1327
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: told her to take it down, as she did. Nigga,

1328
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 2: why did you you didn't regret it at all. Dogs

1329
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: three days, Dog, three days. I've taken posts down in

1330
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: minutes cause I was like, ooh, my phone is oh

1331
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: what is this? What is I mean? You know whether

1332
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: it's fucked up immediately, you know, like come on man,

1333
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: and when something goes viral like that. Three days okay anyway,

1334
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 2: but the damage was done. Wick believes that at least

1335
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 2: two Facebook friends took screenshots of her post, her late

1336
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: then page the other personal information, and sheared it online.

1337
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: What these people know about Wick is being gleaned from

1338
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: her digital footprints. She attended Albany Medical College. It which boy,

1339
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: they be humanized on them, don'tey. She has got MD

1340
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: next to her name, so in the eyes of her critics,

1341
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: she's not just a racist, She's a racist doctor. She's

1342
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: married and Collins have a rasked her husband. They found

1343
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: more distant family members and left threatened in messages for them.

1344
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: There's not what's not apparent online. Wick is bipolar and

1345
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: was likely in the midst of a manic episode. She

1346
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 2: said she was diagnosed in nineteen ninety seven while attending

1347
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: Albany Medical College. Yes, she did graduate, but she never

1348
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: finished residency. One year in she quit. I had to

1349
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: leave because I was sick with bipolar disorder and I work,

1350
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: and work in one hundred and twenty hours a week

1351
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: was detrimental to my health. Between nineteen eighty between nineteen

1352
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: ninety eight two thousand seven, I was hospitalized five time

1353
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: for bipolar disorder. She had it. I have had the

1354
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: same psychiatrist in two thousand It took eight years to

1355
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: get on medication regimen that works for me. I have

1356
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: ups and downs, but haven't haven't had to be hospitalized

1357
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven. We didn't use a mental

1358
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: illness as an excuse for what she supposted on Facebook.

1359
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: In fact, she said just the opposite. My mother Key's

1360
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 2: calling and saying she's my bipolar watchdout. She says you

1361
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: were manic when you wrote that you were manic. She says,

1362
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't manic. I was making a satirical joke. I

1363
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 2: regret that I did it because it was a little

1364
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: too over the line. I mean it as a joke,

1365
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: but I apologize by fitting anybody. Yeah, you know it's

1366
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: I you know what's funny. I appreciate her not trying

1367
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: to blame it on being bipolar. I think it's very

1368
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: weird that the article makes such a big deal out

1369
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: of that because that because at this point, the only

1370
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: conclusion I can reach is that the article's doing it

1371
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: to have sympathy for you know what I mean, Like,

1372
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: she had to drop out of school, y'all, and she's

1373
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: feeling really sad and people are threatening her.

1374
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1375
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 4: I have found a member with mental illness. I know

1376
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 4: people with mental illness. That has nothing to do with

1377
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 4: you being a decent, goddamn human being. There's a lot

1378
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 4: of people out here that are bipolar that are not racist.

1379
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: So I don't want to hear it. You're using it

1380
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 4: as a goddamn excuse.

1381
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 2: Often someone is spears in a swinging bipolar disease, doesn't

1382
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: realize it or won't admit it at the moment, according

1383
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: to doctor. So even now the article's going she said,

1384
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm not having an episode, I'm fine, and they're like, yeah, but.

1385
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 4: You're white, so we got to coddle you. You're a

1386
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 4: white woman, so we got to run to your rescue

1387
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 4: and tell you how it wasn't your fault that you

1388
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 4: made a joke that for a lot of people, honestly

1389
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 4: they're panicking right now because of everybody that's do you

1390
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 4: know the fucking KKK took the White Office, I mean

1391
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 4: the White House and the Presidency and all that shit

1392
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 4: in a lot of people their eyes, and they're getting

1393
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 4: ready to come in and sweep and make America great again.

1394
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: And it's one of those.

1395
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 4: Things where you like, well, bitch, you know, they actually

1396
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 4: do got flavors called prison. But you know, for us

1397
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 4: other citizens, you know, it's one of those things where

1398
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 4: people go, hey, if they could take it back to me,

1399
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 4: picking cott, and I know they would get the fuck

1400
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 4: out of here.

1401
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: It was not a funny joke at all.

1402
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild because white people get this sort of

1403
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: empathy reserved for them that we don't get. Like this

1404
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: reminds me of the Justine Socco thing. What she said,

1405
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: the stuff about doing.

1406
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: The African Hope, I don't get aged.

1407
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: And then she was on the plane and she lost

1408
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: her job by the time she landed because she was

1409
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: like public relations for a major firm. But then within

1410
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: like a year, several she had used her connections to

1411
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: have several meter outlets right very coin pieces sit down

1412
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: and do interviews and they all painting her as a

1413
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: person that just made a silly mistake and didn't deserve

1414
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: any of the ridicule, and she was the real victim

1415
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 2: and everybody else was just being black. People bullied her. Also,

1416
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 2: the guy from Gawker, I read an article about him.

1417
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: It painted him as, you know, a drug like a well,

1418
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: he had some issues with drugs. He had some issues

1419
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: with this, that and the other. This is a dude

1420
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 2: that was arrogant as fuck. This is a dude that

1421
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: violated people's privacy. This is a guy that essentially posted

1422
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: someone's a video of someone's rape at one point because

1423
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: he said it was newsworthy on Gawker. He's not a

1424
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: good person, but this article painting him as just a

1425
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: misunderstood person. They even painted his thirteen I forget how

1426
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: much it was, like thirteen hundred dollars a month apartment

1427
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: in Florida, as like, wow, look how far he's falling.

1428
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 2: And I said, you know how many motherfuckers will be

1429
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: so happy to be able to scrape together thirteen one

1430
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: hundred dollars every month to pay some motherfucking rent. Like

1431
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: this is a New York, this is a la, This

1432
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: is just somewhere this like somewhere in Florida. But the

1433
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: sympathy they gave him was the part that was infuriating,

1434
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: simply because I know it'll never be done the other way.

1435
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: That's the thing. You know, Black people fuck up. There's

1436
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: no let's go back and explain this. I still haven't

1437
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: seen not one, not one of these puff pieces on

1438
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: somebody that said some shit that got arrested, like fuck

1439
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: all these white people or something, and they go, you know,

1440
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill all the white people on campus. They

1441
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: never go back six months and find that person to say, hey,

1442
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: you were arrested for saying some shit that you didn't

1443
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, you didn't do it, you didn't go to

1444
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 2: what happened. Well, I'm bipolar and na. You'll never read

1445
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: that shit. You'll never read it like you just are

1446
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: discovering the earth and bottom of the barrel. We don't

1447
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: need to explain anything about your black ass. You shouldn't

1448
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: have said that shit. That's the only thing you get.

1449
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: But these white people, man, they consistently write these like

1450
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: sympathetic woe is me type the woman from the store

1451
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 2: where she's like they would be a racist against me

1452
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: because I'm TRU supporter and call them all kinds of

1453
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: racial slurs. They did a piece about her, like, it's amazing,

1454
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: just it's amazing how whiteness can work. Man, it's amazing.

1455
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: This would never happen then other way around. That's all

1456
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: I mean. Obviously I'm gonna get this one hundred because

1457
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm gtting mad. But the vice piece on safety paying

1458
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: box well Leslie and and Marissa. I remember we watched

1459
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: it and I was like, I'm happy that they got

1460
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: the message out there, but this is such the shadiest

1461
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 2: motherfucking like, it's obvious that whoever edited it was like,

1462
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: let's try to make it seem like they are taking

1463
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: advantage of white people's guilt, and that's a bad thing,

1464
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: and we're gonna make fun of the white people that

1465
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: a tempt to take do this product that they don't.

1466
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: They didn't humanize Leslie and Marissa, even if you would

1467
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: have disagreed with them and been like, well, we think

1468
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: they taking advantage of people, but let's find out what

1469
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: they think and then go into their lives and talk

1470
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: about the pitfalls and the resistance they've experienced and the

1471
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: abuse they've experienced over the last year or two. Just

1472
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: being in this Movement for Black Lives. Nope, not a

1473
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: goddamn thing. It's just these motherfucker's evil, right. We can

1474
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: all decide. I'm out like that. That's the shit that

1475
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: pisss me off is that they would go find this

1476
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: random woman's face from Facebook and be like, let's write

1477
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: a puff piece on her ass when she ain't do

1478
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: nothing but just make a racist.

1479
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 4: Joke, you know, right, And also honestly you're validating her comments?

1480
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: What the fuck about slavery is a joke?

1481
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 4: Like, like, like really a joke joke, Like if you

1482
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: really get down to it, this no, no.

1483
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no no. It is a very funny. Slavery can

1484
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: be very funny, okay, can and I do find that

1485
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: her joke it like, I can see how that joke

1486
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: would work with somebody else, Like I can make that

1487
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: joke and I and people would be like, oh, that's

1488
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: funny because they know me. They'd be like, you make

1489
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: this joke out of time, and obviously you don't want

1490
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 2: know slavery. Uh, fifty three percent of white women voted

1491
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 2: for Trump. You make some joke about bringing back slavery

1492
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: and being happy Trump got ain't nobody going through your

1493
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: life history to figure out a few racist or not nigga,

1494
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: you gonna viral on everybody about to be like.

1495
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 4: Fuck you, right, And so when I let me go back,

1496
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 4: I don't mean slavery itself can't be. You can't find

1497
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 4: funny in slavery. But when you say in this context

1498
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 4: it's not funny.

1499
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: I don't know her.

1500
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: I ain't got to know her.

1501
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: She could be, it could be funny. I don't fucking

1502
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: know her. You need to know her. Y'all might have

1503
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: a friend that make a crash joke like this and

1504
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: you think it's funny because you know that motherfucker or whatever.

1505
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: The internet don't know you dog. You don't get to

1506
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: make that joke. You have no brand and no presence,

1507
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: no nothing to back up. Like all people gonna know

1508
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 2: if you made this one post and they're gonna be like,

1509
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: fuck her, that's it. So it is what it is. Man.

1510
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: You got served up to the Internet gods, and you

1511
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: gotta deal with it. But yeah, I mean, I don't

1512
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: feel any sympathy for her. But you know, like I said,

1513
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 2: you put that ship out there and then you left

1514
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: it up for days and ship.

1515
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 1: Right, So that means you wouldn't sorry, fu you.

1516
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a long ass article, y'all I'm

1517
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: talking about. I didn't make it, not even a fourth

1518
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: through the article yet. I'm not I'm not reading all this.

1519
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: But just to let you know how far they went

1520
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: into talking about her mental illness and how far they

1521
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: went into what by like, they interviewed experts about being bipolar, everything,

1522
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: everything except what she was wrong for this and shouldn't

1523
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: have done it. Uh so yeah, zero, two.

1524
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 4: Hundred, oh yeah, one hundred yeah, because yes, one of

1525
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 4: those things. But sorry, baby, you do not get the

1526
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 4: benefit of doubt. You said it, you meant.

1527
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: It one hundred for me as well. All Right, we

1528
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: gotta go to the next We gotta go to the

1529
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: next things. So let me play a clip and then

1530
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: I'll go to the next session and we'll be right back. Everybody, Okay,

1531
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: just moving slough.

1532
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 11: Christmas is all about.

1533
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: You, hear that, boy, That's what Christmas is all about.

1534
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 9: Actually, Granddad, Christmas is a pagan holiday, and Jesus probably

1535
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 9: hates you for celebrating it.

1536
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna be no scruises in this house.

1537
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 8: Boy.

1538
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 3: Look, Grandad, it's clear from the scripture that Jesus was

1539
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 3: not born in winter. The shepherds who saw the angels

1540
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 3: announcing his birth would not have been out in their

1541
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: fields in December. The Palestinian winters are too cold, if

1542
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: you believe in that sort of thing.

1543
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: The truth is Christmas evolved from.

1544
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 9: The Roman holiday Saturdaynlin, a winter festival where men gave

1545
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 9: gifts to each other. They also would get drunk, have

1546
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 9: sex with each.

1547
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: Other, and beat their wife.

1548
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 7: People would act.

1549
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 9: So crazy on Christmas the holiday was outlawed by the

1550
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 9: Protestant Church until the eighteen hundreds. As a matter of fact,

1551
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 9: the United States Congress lively, granddad, granddad.

1552
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, boy, what was that? I just explained the

1553
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: entire history of Christmas?

1554
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 8: But it was boy.

1555
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 12: You you just blah blah, gay sex blind black Congress.

1556
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 2: You know you gotta be interesting. I'm almost said going

1557
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: live and I'm about to invite you.

1558
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:41,919
Speaker 1: Okay.

1559
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 2: That's when it just clicked in my mind that if

1560
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 2: you just run through somebody's face, a lot of people

1561
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be able to take that over and over

1562
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over and over

1563
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over and over

1564
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: and over and over and over where again, they're just

1565
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: not gonna want that.

1566
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 8: I think there's a deeper metaphor there.

1567
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: Run through a motherfucker face, then you don't have to

1568
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: worry about him no more. All right, So a hundred

1569
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: for me and one hundred for can Fox News five Stacy.

1570
01:23:19,560 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 13: Dash m hm, might not do no more.

1571
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 2: Upbreak good time.

1572
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know lit breaks.

1573
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 4: She gone, m yeah, just like they did a lot

1574
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 4: of other black people on his one networks.

1575
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: It's like, we got the nigga leaving the office, so

1576
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: why have we got the niggas around?

1577
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: Yep? After all them white women left for saying they

1578
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: were sexually harassed, comem sued and found other jobs. Somehow,

1579
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: no black president and they don't need they don't need

1580
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: black people there to speak anti blackness no more.

1581
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: I said that years ago.

1582
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 4: I was like when Obamale's office, it's gonna be a

1583
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 4: shakey of the building because they.

1584
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Were like, why we got these niggas around? Argument people?

1585
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: We ain't got no black president no more?

1586
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: Yep. Sheril Clark gonna, what's he gonna do? Can't stay

1587
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: relevant like this dog. You need some black shit to

1588
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: be popping off, need that black man up there so

1589
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 2: you can be mad every time he say black lives

1590
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: matter or said something about how the police could have

1591
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: acted better, or so to stretch a mountain into a mountain,

1592
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 2: Mohill into a mountain because not like Obama was the

1593
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: most militant niggas, Not like he was showing up being

1594
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: like fuck these cops. He'd just be like, well, you know,

1595
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 2: I think cops should, uh, you know, should try to

1596
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 2: de escalate the situation. What this motherfucker said that black

1597
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: people should kill police? Like, now he won't be around,

1598
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,480
Speaker 2: so you can do that and they don't need your ass. Dash,

1599
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: What are you gonna talk about now? You know you

1600
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,480
Speaker 2: always claim you can't get a job as a Republican

1601
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, kind of skipping over all the Republicans that

1602
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: stay working because they, you know, can act anyway. She

1603
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: got fired. She hasn't said anything on her blall about

1604
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 2: it yet, but I can only imagine zero te zero

1605
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: zero for me as well.

1606
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 8: Uh.

1607
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson said Trump's inauguration speech was full of hope

1608
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: and inclusion.

1609
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 13: Mm hmm, what's.

1610
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 12: Wrong with you?

1611
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: Wrong with y'all?

1612
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: You thinkers are crazy?

1613
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: What speech?

1614
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 8: Bro?

1615
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: What speech is here? I just want to know, did

1616
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 2: you hear the speech that said the help including I

1617
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: just want to know everything I read was dark speech.

1618
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: I mean because I I didn't watch it. Everything else what's.

1619
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 5: Full of hope and inclusion. But and he reached out

1620
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 5: to cities and the way they've not been reached out

1621
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 5: to for a long time. So that must come a target, Uh,

1622
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 5: time people and a budget. Let's just stay looking at them,

1623
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 5: and well you have let in the wall, that let pipes,

1624
01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 5: need for infrastructure that perject. If you the monsters rebuilt jobs,

1625
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 5: the grass is growing up, landscape is job construction. So

1626
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 5: if it becomes, if the policy, not just the speech

1627
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 5: it is, it's good. You hopeful, Well, I'm hopeful, but

1628
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 5: there's an awful lot of damage on it in much

1629
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 5: between the The campaign was very deviced and very painful.

1630
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

1631
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 5: The attack on the deport than fifteen million people, they

1632
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 5: scared to death. Uh, children crying if you think they

1633
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 5: a bit separate from their parents.

1634
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1635
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 5: The idea of of banning Muslims more of building a wall,

1636
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 5: you know, it's to make her rather than building bridges

1637
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 5: a path with the citizenship more fear.

1638
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 8: Uh.

1639
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 5: Referring to President Morocca as the founding of ISIS he'll

1640
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 5: there as a nasty woman. He'll have to clean that

1641
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 5: stuff up and then put forth some concrete plans to

1642
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 5: begin to regain trust and his readings a little, because

1643
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 5: trust is low because of the nature of the campaign.

1644
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 5: In the election, you know has the power. What does

1645
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 5: a man with so much power doing grace can expand

1646
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 5: your power and Arabic skin diminish it. So I hope

1647
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 5: you'll have the grace and the Commendment and all of

1648
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 5: us on the one big ten.

1649
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 8: You can.

1650
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 14: Mm hmm, what thou forsaking me? You said you was lawyer,

1651
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 14: but you wasn't. You said you was faithful, but you

1652
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 14: were lying. The ass bitch.

1653
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he get a one hund.

1654
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the more I'm more I think about what

1655
01:28:54,520 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 4: he said, it makes me mad. Because all other black,

1656
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 4: old black nigroes they got on I fucking hate Obama

1657
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 4: across America train today was going going on that goddamn

1658
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 4: bus tour.

1659
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: I ain't forgot. I know other people have, but I

1660
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 1: ain't forgot.

1661
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 4: On we old niggas, black old niggas mad bus tour

1662
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 4: that folks was taking all across the country because they

1663
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 4: was mad at fucking Obama. But yet you and come

1664
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 4: around talking about this nigga talking about something hope and change.

1665
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, said he wanted to cut Obama's nuts out.

1666
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 4: Right, recorded recorded, like you know, I know the Internet

1667
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 4: got short term memory, but I don't got short term memory, nigga.

1668
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember.

1669
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 4: How y'all got up in all up in y'all feelings

1670
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 4: because Obama didn't come in big and plead and and

1671
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 4: ask for and ask for yo for y'all approval to

1672
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 4: pass on the black mantle.

1673
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Y'all was mad about that ship.

1674
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm good, you know, I remember that shit,

1675
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 4: you know, And it's one of the.

1676
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Things where.

1677
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 4: The progression is is what we're all trying to do.

1678
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: Everybody has different ways of doing it, and sometimes I

1679
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 4: think old people don't want to let go and they

1680
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 4: don't want to see the change, and sometimes it makes

1681
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 4: feel mad when the change happens without them.

1682
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely got a hundred for that. That's pretty

1683
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 2: fucked up man, right, just because like I said, uh he,

1684
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he eventually did kind of come back to

1685
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: the fold. I remember he cried when Obama was elected

1686
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 2: and all that shit. But you know, the thing where

1687
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 2: I feel like he's given Trump the chance that Trump

1688
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve. And there's a lot of niggas that are

1689
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 2: trying to do this right now. And it's honestly kind

1690
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 2: of sad to see people give a person h.

1691
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 12: A fellow gat he didn't know the microphone was on.

1692
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 8: Jackson admits his comments were hurtful and wrong.

1693
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, cutting down, the talking down the black people on

1694
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: this face basically want to cut his nuts off. Okay,

1695
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: all right, look that's how you felt, That's how you

1696
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: really felt, and that's fine. I know a lot of

1697
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 2: black people that felt that way about Obama. Just keep

1698
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 2: up that intensity as all I'm asking. Don't lower the

1699
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: bar for Trump. That's that's the only thing. Like, there's

1700
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people that don't fuck with Obama. I

1701
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: just don't want to see motherfuckers then lower the bar

1702
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 2: for the next for white people, because that's what the

1703
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: life has been, my whole for everybody, the whole existence

1704
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 2: of America is been a lowering of the bar for

1705
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:35,440
Speaker 2: white people. You know that. I've seen people who criticize

1706
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 2: every move Obama made talking about, well, this is good

1707
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: that Trump is making different decisions because even if they

1708
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 2: bad decisions, at least it's different. You know, I'm refreshing

1709
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 2: now care sorry, but uh, you know it's that shit

1710
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: where you're like, yo, why is the bar so low

1711
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: for him? Because you a critical of like his ag.

1712
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 2: Wasn't this enough or that enough? Now you're gonna have

1713
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 2: an AG that's straight up like I used to being

1714
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: the Klan. You don't see a problem with this, like

1715
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: you don't see you don't see a vast difference. Well, no,

1716
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 2: it's good now because it's like, okay, so clearly you

1717
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 2: just on some other shit dog, And it's sad to

1718
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: see Jesse on that shit. Maybe he's hoping the angling

1719
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: away where he can kind of like get in the

1720
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 2: room with Trump and visit the tower too.

1721
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 4: I don't know my parent it is so but sheah,

1722
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 4: it's just one of those things where I can't explend

1723
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 4: it but just infuriate you and make you mad because

1724
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 4: it's like, well, nigga, were you only about civil rights

1725
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 4: when you were involved? Now since these new niggas come up,

1726
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 4: you're not You're not fighting for the ya. You act

1727
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 4: like y'all not even fight for the same causes anymore.

1728
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 4: You know, like Jesse dies, so did the civil rights

1729
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 4: die with him?

1730
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: In your book. I mean, I mean, and I'm questioning that.

1731
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 4: Because it's like, if you were really truly about the calls,

1732
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 4: regardless of who's head in the calls, we all should be.

1733
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:03,839
Speaker 1: There, like we all should.

1734
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 4: I might not agree with the way that you do

1735
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 4: the ship, but if the end result is that you

1736
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 4: love black people and you don't want black people dining

1737
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 4: in the street, I don't give a fuck how you

1738
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 4: got that.

1739
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: As long as you got damn get there.

1740
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Well, apparently uh people holding out. I hope that Trump's

1741
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: don't get there too. Can shit.

1742
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 4: I didn't even hear the speech, but all I heard

1743
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 4: was listen here, darkness, your thought it was a gang.

1744
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 4: These crackers voted me and the president. I'm gonna tell

1745
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 4: you what's about the change. Your first lady is officially fine.

1746
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 4: Y'all don't see fine lady right here at All she

1747
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 4: did was coffy Michelle Obama. You didn't see my cake

1748
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 4: with our cake. It's just like, we don't want to

1749
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 4: be the niggas. We'll just copy the niggas and copy

1750
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 4: everything that they do. I'm here to tell you right

1751
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 4: now things about the change because I'm the new sheriff

1752
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 4: in town.

1753
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 1: This is what I don't telling you my interpretation of it.

1754
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let y'all know right now, Mexican get ready

1755
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 4: to build that while Muslims ye after y'all too, Niggas,

1756
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna take it back to slavering. You know, we're

1757
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 4: gonna take the police to back to what they've been

1758
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 4: for years, their slave catcheres.

1759
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: Best y'all didn't know that.

1760
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 4: We're gonna give them them if give us a few years,

1761
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give them they badge to just go ahead

1762
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 4: and call your slave catchers.

1763
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: That's what's about that. I wouldn't now, but this is

1764
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: what my interpretation of.

1765
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: That's about what it What's funny too, is that it's

1766
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 2: funny how much shit they're doing that the Obamas did,

1767
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: but then they put it's a white person doing it,

1768
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 2: so White America thinks it's great now, mom, you know

1769
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like in every way they are just

1770
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 2: copying off of the test, they're just sitting behind the

1771
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: Obama's cheating, like whether it's speeches, whether it's the cake,

1772
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: like everything is just But you know what, I decided

1773
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 2: something today I'm not because I was like I have

1774
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: to talk about we as a show, we're probably gonna

1775
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 2: end up talking about some of the stuff that Trump

1776
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 2: administration does. But I've decided that since it's not my

1777
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: president and it's not your president, that's white people president.

1778
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: So that's going to white people niggas from now. Deal

1779
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 2: with it. Y'all elected that motherfucker, not us anyway, Yes,

1780
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 2: yes you have.

1781
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Y'all elected him, not us.

1782
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 4: And you know, being a black woman, I feel a

1783
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 4: certain way about certain things, and I see a lot

1784
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 4: of things through the prism of race and racism, and

1785
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 4: y'all ain't fooling no byey kumbay y'all. I'm glad y'all

1786
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 4: had a good time and got nice little tans.

1787
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: On your motherfucking marches yesterday.

1788
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 4: But what you're gonna do when you get home and

1789
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 4: that car get cold, and I will continue to say that.

1790
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yep, we'll see.

1791
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 10: You know.

1792
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: I do know that a lot of people that went

1793
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 2: out to the marches, depending on where they were at,

1794
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: was hed like. There were some good marches where black

1795
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: women were centered and people women of color and LGBT women,

1796
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 2: and it was well done. I listened to a couple

1797
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: of speeches from people I know feminista Jones spoke at one.

1798
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: I know Leslie attended one and then she like posted

1799
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 2: video from it. And there are black women that are

1800
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: feeling optimistic about it and hopeful and stuff, and that's cool,

1801
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 2: you know as well, Like that's dope, you know, especially

1802
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: people that's been putting in all this work for all

1803
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: this time and not having the support that they need.

1804
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 2: Like maybe this will galvanize people into being supporters, you know,

1805
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: long term, yes, and for like this.

1806
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 4: With I hope this is I hope that a lot

1807
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 4: of these white women, some voted for Trump that was

1808
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:51,759
Speaker 4: out there maunching.

1809
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I hope they do have a change.

1810
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 4: I hope they do get up with these black leaders.

1811
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 4: I hope they open up their ears. I hope they

1812
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 4: open up their heart CAUs I hope they ready to

1813
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 4: receive the truth about racing racism and how they.

1814
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: Play a role in it.

1815
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 4: I really really do hope that these white women prove

1816
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 4: me wrong with all my heart, But history shows me otherwise.

1817
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 4: So you're asking a lot of people to fight against

1818
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 4: their own nature, and I.

1819
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: Hope that they do.

1820
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 4: And I hope the next time, within you know, twenty

1821
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 4: four to four eight hours, next time a black person dies,

1822
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 4: a Native American person dies, LGBT two Q person dies.

1823
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, next time somebody gets shot by the police.

1824
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: I want to see them at these marches.

1825
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 4: I want to see them marching and protesting with the

1826
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 4: same intensity. I want them to talk about the injustices

1827
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 4: like like, that's what I want to see. I want

1828
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 4: these numbers to be consistently out there. And you know,

1829
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 4: when people go, well, what about the black on black crime?

1830
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 4: We care because we're.

1831
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Here, while you know, black people don't the only one

1832
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: to care.

1833
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 4: All these white people marching all across the country and

1834
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 4: including Chicago, where are y'all going to be when the

1835
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 4: next censons violence happens in.

1836
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: The black community? Like, where are you going to be?

1837
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 4: And that's the thing I wanted to go beyond a

1838
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 4: day because the thing is, this was an easy act

1839
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 4: for a lot of people.

1840
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: That's why so many people participated.

1841
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 4: It was easy to get in your car, it was

1842
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 4: easy to travel a few hundred miles, it was easy

1843
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 4: to buy a plane ticket, it was easy to stand

1844
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 4: out there in the coat. That was the easy part.

1845
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 4: But after the easy part comes the hard part, which

1846
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 4: requires you to do work. And that's the part where

1847
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 4: people get the hymen and hollowing, where people get the

1848
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 4: making excuses, where people get the hat and behind their racism.

1849
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 4: Because a lot of these same people that was out

1850
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 4: of these marches, the next time somebody black guys, they're

1851
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 4: gonna say it was their fault.

1852
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna say why didn't they obey the police.

1853
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 4: They're gonna be a boy this most freaking blue lives

1854
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 4: matter like like, and I believe that a large percentage

1855
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 4: of them feel like that. And the thing is, I

1856
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 4: hope this march changes lives. I don't want people to

1857
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 4: think that I'm so against the march. I'm not against

1858
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 4: the march as far as the purpose of them. I'm

1859
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 4: against the march as far as the face of the

1860
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 4: march was predominantly white women. And I know history has

1861
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 4: told me how a lot of them feel and what

1862
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 4: a lot of them gonna do.

1863
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: And then history has a tendency to repeat itself.

1864
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 2: Now, why do you say the face was predominantly white women?

1865
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 4: I feel like, for me, who basically has nothing to do,

1866
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 4: I'm not associated with it.

1867
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: A lot of the pictures.

1868
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 4: Be it women on the airplanes, be it a feed

1869
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 4: from the ground, be it what what the Internet, and

1870
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: what the news and shit showed me was a seal

1871
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 4: white women. Yes they were black women there, Yes, black

1872
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 4: women participated, but overall the face was white. It was

1873
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 4: white as snow. So for somebody like me, that's all

1874
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 4: I see. And my thing is, like people could say

1875
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 4: that black people participated about people help, Yes, and I

1876
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 4: do understand that, but overall it was white because I

1877
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 4: can get to you, if this was a black thing,

1878
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 4: it would not have got this coverage, it would not

1879
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 4: have went around the world, and overall, I think most

1880
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 4: people would not have gave.

1881
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: A shit about it.

1882
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So because what you know, like I said, the

1883
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 2: stuff that I did see, like a lot of sisters

1884
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 2: got this, were speaking, a lot of sisters were you know,

1885
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 2: I've seen press where they've talked about like you know,

1886
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 2: Jessica Williams speaking and you know the black women that

1887
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 2: and I mean one there's a woman of color who's

1888
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 2: like a Muslim who gave this awesome speech and she

1889
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 2: was talking to like Laurias dynam and stuff. So I think, uh,

1890
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:48,520
Speaker 2: it's weird because even when you center that the experiences

1891
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 2: of people that normally aren't centered the audience is gonna

1892
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 2: still be white, and it's kind of like, isn't that

1893
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 2: what we want? Don't we want them to be there

1894
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 2: to hear that as opposed to sitting at home like

1895
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 2: they doing there's a Black Lives Matter rally or something

1896
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 2: like they're here and they're listening. What like, what more

1897
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: would we I guess, what more would we want out

1898
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 2: of that experience?

1899
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 9: Like?

1900
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: Because the thing is also there's like I think I

1901
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 2: want to say, she said six hundred sister marches. It

1902
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 2: might have said it might have been two hundred, but

1903
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 2: it was a lot. And I guarantee not all of

1904
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 2: them went off without a hitch. There's probably some fucked

1905
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: up if you're there's definitely gonna be some fucked up ones.

1906
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 2: There's definitely gonna be oversights. Uh, you know, there's gonna

1907
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 2: be problems even with the marches that people think were great.

1908
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 2: You know, but uh, my question would be, would you

1909
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 2: because my thing is, we represent what thirteen percent of

1910
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: this population? Thirteen percent of us at a parade is

1911
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 2: gonna look like mostly white people there or you know

1912
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 2: whatever the marginalized percentage is of just different people. The

1913
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 2: vastatory of those people are gonna be white people. When

1914
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 2: when you just take a random snapshot of the crowd.

1915
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 2: I guess, would you rather them not even be there?

1916
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: No, I got and it's it's hard. I guess for me,

1917
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: it's it's put like this.

1918
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 4: It's hard to explain because right now I'm just wrapped

1919
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 4: up full of just emotion and somewhat of a rage

1920
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 4: to an extent too, because I think for me, at

1921
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 4: the foundation of it, it was white women that started

1922
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 4: to bring it off. From my understanding, this was this

1923
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 4: was I don't you know. For my understanding, white women

1924
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: was the foundation. And I don't have a problem with

1925
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 4: you being in the foundation. My problem is that the

1926
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 4: purpose of the march was against Trump. I don't have

1927
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 4: a problem with there a purpose of the marsters for

1928
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 4: women's rights and all this stuff.

1929
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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. I think my

1930
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: problem comes down is more deeper.

1931
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Speaker 4: Are we Are you upset and are you mad that

1932
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 4: you're having But I just you're having this march against

1933
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 4: Trump because now you're scared. You're having this march against

1934
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 4: Trump because now he's gonna be president. Where were you

1935
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 4: before he was elected to be president?

1936
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Where were you in the booths? Like like like like

1937
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: that's when.

1938
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 4: My rage and my anger comes in because it's like,

1939
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 4: we're having the march after the fact. These marchers should

1940
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 4: have took places months ago. These marchers should have took

1941
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 4: place when he was saying ignorant shit, saying dumb shit,

1942
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 4: talking about your girl, Hillary.

1943
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: These marchers should have happened then.

1944
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 4: These marches happening now almost defeats the purpose in my opinion,

1945
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 4: not that the march won't have a purpose, but it

1946
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 4: defeats the purpose of you showing that women are in numbers.

1947
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: You're trying to make a statement, you know, it's like, yeah,

1948
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:56,799
Speaker 1: let's have.

1949
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 4: This after the parades are finished, like like to me

1950
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 4: that that's when my that's where my frustration comes in.

1951
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 4: And also when I know that a large percent of

1952
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 4: these women the march voted for him too, So why

1953
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 4: are you protesting the woman that's at this protest that.

1954
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: Voted for Trump? Like like that, Like like.

1955
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 4: That's what my rage it and my frustration and my

1956
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 4: anger comes in because I'm looking at it from a

1957
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 4: racial perspective when I when I know for a lot

1958
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 4: of people it was the march was not coming from

1959
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 4: a sincere place. The march was Okay, Now I'm scared.

1960
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 4: Come on, black people, Come on, all these people that

1961
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 4: he talked shit about that I voted him in office

1962
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 4: for y'all, come on and support me, the poor white

1963
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 4: woman when he was talking about us, and you gave

1964
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 4: zero fucks about us.

1965
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: And we're women too, And that's the part that frustrates me.

1966
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: You want our numbers, but yet when it's time.

1967
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 4: For shit that affects us, you don't really mean it,

1968
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 4: because I guarantee you when three months from now, six

1969
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 4: months from now, a year from now, when he starts

1970
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 4: stripping lgbt Q rights, telling gays and lesbians they can't

1971
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 4: get married because they was out in these crowds marching

1972
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 4: also with his when he starts coming and trying to

1973
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 4: do a lot of these things he said he was

1974
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 4: gonna do against other women, not men, women when he

1975
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 4: starts stripping abortion rights. When he starts, you know because

1976
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 4: in Texas, uh now, they have the highest percentage, they

1977
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 4: have the highest percentage in years of women having children

1978
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 4: dying because women can't don't have access.

1979
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: To proper prenatal health care.

1980
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 4: Like this is the ship that affects women too, not

1981
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: just grabbing you in a pussy, and then that's what

1982
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 4: that's that's what my frustration settles in about the whole thing,

1983
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 4: And for me personally, it's just a complete turnoff, like

1984
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 4: like it's just like, okay, all y'all are here crying

1985
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 4: and sad and upset and your motherfucking feelings I heard

1986
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 4: because president got in office. But I guarantee you, when

1987
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 4: it's time to vote for your mayors, when it's time

1988
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 4: to vote for your sinning and congressman, when it's time

1989
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,879
Speaker 4: to vote for your next police chief, you're gonna align

1990
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 4: up the way you have always fucking aligned up. So

1991
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, for a lot of

1992
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 4: these people, nothing has changed. Yes, it will be a

1993
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 4: percentage of people that will change. Yes, I am glad

1994
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 4: that black women were out there and that those women

1995
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 4: out there hurt them. But this is in between hearing

1996
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 4: somebody and actually receiving what the person has said, because

1997
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 4: a lot of what those black women said overall is

1998
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 4: gonna fall on deaf ears, because if you didn't come

1999
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 4: with an open mind and open heart, you're not gonna

2000
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 4: receive anything that these women have said in the first place.

2001
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 4: And that's gonna be for a large percentage of this audience.

2002
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 4: So you're gonna go back home. You're gonna fly back home.

2003
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 4: You're gonna vote the same way you've always voted. You're

2004
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 4: gonna continue to vote Republicans. Then you're gonna continue to

2005
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 4: let it be the same because at the end of

2006
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 4: the day, it didn't, it does not affect your life.

2007
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 4: You're only mad because now you're scared because your rights

2008
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 4: not be taken away. But you didn't give a talk

2009
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 4: about nobody else's rights. And I think that's what my

2010
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 4: rage and my upset with, my dissatisfaction with a lot of.

2011
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 1: This come from. And for me, it's a complete turnoff. Yeah.

2012
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I agree with everything you've

2013
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,560
Speaker 2: been saying, but I'm only asked for clarity for the

2014
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 2: audience because I'm asking these questions on myself too, because

2015
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm mad and I just don't like you know, I'm

2016
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: a pretty pragmatic person or whatever, So I don't know

2017
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: what I want. You know what I mean, because this

2018
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 2: is what you this is Ain't that essentially the thing

2019
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: that would have to happen or order for a change

2020
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 2: to take place, people listening to marginalized people and coming

2021
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 2: out to talk to him, that they talk to him

2022
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: and people hearing something they don't want to hear. And

2023
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 2: maybe this election humbled some people into a place where

2024
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 2: they don't have a choice but to listen to us.

2025
01:47:54,800 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Maybe they're looking for solutions too, you know, and maybe

2026
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 2: and maybe some lifelong changes can be made, and some

2027
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 2: things that, at least, if not lifelong, politically expedient things

2028
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 2: and coalitions can be built to push forward agendas to

2029
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 2: help both parties. Right, So example, for example, we would

2030
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 2: need more of these motherfuckers to come out for other

2031
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: shit that that doesn't necessarily center them, right, But these

2032
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:33,799
Speaker 2: marches in some cases didn't center them. You know, when

2033
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 2: you have you know, women of color going on and

2034
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: explaining like this is why y'all fucked up too, in

2035
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 2: addition to just like let's go stop Trump, because that's

2036
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 2: really what white people really want to do, is they

2037
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 2: want to like get up and make speeches about let's

2038
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 2: stop Trump, but they don't want to listen to their

2039
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 2: speeches about Yeah, and y'all's fucking harassment of people of

2040
01:48:56,200 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 2: color for not supporting Bernie and y'all's worship of Hillary

2041
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 2: Clinton to the point where we couldn't be critical of

2042
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 2: her and y'all's you know, disdain for Black lives matter,

2043
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 2: and y'all like, we can't bring that up to me.

2044
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 2: That's the problem. So this seemed to be an area

2045
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 2: where for at least one one day, uh and in

2046
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 2: some places not all of them, but what some people

2047
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 2: got to take the mic and voice those frustrations with

2048
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 2: those white women. I don't know that you know that

2049
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,520
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what that's what I want inside,

2050
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 2: that's how I feel, like, Yes, that's what I want,

2051
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: y'all to sit down and listen and learn something. But yeah,

2052
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: I can't help but feel exactly how you feel when

2053
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 2: it comes to like the optimism that and that maybe

2054
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 2: that's the worst part of being pragmatic is my optimism

2055
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 2: isn't there because I do feel like it'll be more

2056
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 2: seductive to retreat back into white supremacy. Then it's gonna

2057
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: be the support this this ship because essentially white people

2058
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 2: are very and people in general, specifically white people like

2059
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 2: people in general because that's human nature. But white people,

2060
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 2: more than others, because society has allowed them to do it,

2061
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 2: are bandwagon riders. It is very much a I want

2062
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 2: to be on the side of the winner. That's why

2063
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,799
Speaker 2: you see all these sympathy for Trump voter articles because

2064
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 2: they want to be on They want because they won

2065
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 2: quote unquote even with three million lens votes, they won America.

2066
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 2: So you see people that claim to be morally progressive,

2067
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 2: let's start writing these like really sympathetic piece about economic

2068
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 2: anxiety and uh, you know, the feeling for the people

2069
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: that don't have jobs for cold and they refuse dimention racism,

2070
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 2: They refuse dimntion bigotry, they refuse the mention. But and

2071
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 2: they claim to be quote unquote on our side and

2072
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 2: to be our allies and shit. But really, deep down,

2073
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 2: what they're feeling is I want to be unified with

2074
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 2: the winning side. And it's why they hated Martin Luther

2075
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: King when he was alive, but when he died they

2076
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 2: love him because it's easy to be unified with a

2077
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: dead man than it is to be unified with living

2078
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 2: black people that in your fucking face every day, you know.

2079
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 2: And I'm trying not to give into that anger, but

2080
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, I am angry, like so.

2081
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 4: You know that's why I said that much on social media.

2082
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 4: I've been very very quietly angry.

2083
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 13: Well.

2084
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 2: Also I follow a lot of black women that went

2085
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 2: out there and they believe in that stuff and they

2086
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: like thought it was good and they and I don't

2087
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 2: want to I'm not trying to take away from their experience,

2088
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 2: and I want to learn from their experience, because if

2089
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 2: they said that something positive happened out there, then then cool,

2090
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 2: something positive happened, you know what I mean? Like it

2091
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 2: does mean no good to take away from their very

2092
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 2: real feeling of accomplishment, especially the women that work so

2093
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 2: fucking hard to get people to come out there. Yes,

2094
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 2: this white women's March shit started as a white woman idea.

2095
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean it was obvious when they call it the

2096
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 2: fucking million Women's March. We immediately went on the air.

2097
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,839
Speaker 2: It was like, these motherfuckers have no black people around.

2098
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: They win and got some. They put them in charge,

2099
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They gave them a platform

2100
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: to speak. The things they spoke about were issues that

2101
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 2: we want white people to hear. So I'm not I

2102
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 2: can't in any good conscious I can't be against that

2103
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I want. But at the same time,

2104
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: I just can't. I just don't have to trust there

2105
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 2: to just feel like, because being marginalized in America is

2106
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: losing you know what, I'm saying, that's what our existence

2107
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:53,759
Speaker 2: is in America. It's a series of losses and mitigating loss.

2108
01:52:54,120 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 2: It's not victory as much as limiting the the effects

2109
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: of defeat. You know, that's our legacy in this country.

2110
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: Defense.

2111
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's why we're angry, that's why,

2112
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, but it's that's what that's what our existence is.

2113
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 2: So I'm not looking at it like we're gonna win.

2114
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 2: You know, what did Rob Snyder say when he was

2115
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 2: shooting on John Lewis Martin Luther King won civil rights.

2116
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 2: That's why they they think he's a winner. That's why

2117
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 2: they fuck with him. They don't fuck with Malcolm X

2118
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: like that. You know, they don't fuck like they they

2119
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: don't fuck with with with the movements for Black Lives Now.

2120
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 2: They don't fuck with that at all.

2121
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: Like and it's it's the foundation is the.

2122
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 2: Same, right, But it's because they're losing, quote unquote, we

2123
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 2: are losing. Donald Trump is a significant point in this

2124
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: country to prove that we are losing the uh, what's

2125
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 2: been happening with these police killings and the corruption and

2126
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,520
Speaker 2: the fact that that's all about to stop being investigated.

2127
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 2: We're losing, you know, the fact that the protesters get

2128
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 2: out there and get beaten in the street and nothing happens,

2129
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 2: they get arrested. They you know, we're losing. This is

2130
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 2: not about winning. It's not pretty, it's nothing cool about it.

2131
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 2: I don't like coming on the air to talk about

2132
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 2: this shit. It ain't funny, you know, but it's real.

2133
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 2: So you know it's but that So all that to say,

2134
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't have the faith in whiteness in general as

2135
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 2: a product, as a brand to stick around in general. Right,

2136
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 2: So it's just very difficult to like get hyped up

2137
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: about that. That being said, if I was going to

2138
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 2: have hope, this is what it's supposed to look like.

2139
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 2: This is what the beginning of it will look like.

2140
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 2: It's a mess. That's what it's supposed to be like.

2141
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: If you thought it was gonna be neat, then I

2142
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 2: mean that's ridiculous. The mar just gonna be a mess.

2143
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 9: You know.

2144
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 2: I've seen people I just got home from the march

2145
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 2: is the greatest thing ever. God, we got so much help.

2146
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 2: And I've seen people like his ten things about that

2147
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 2: march and they can go fuck themselves. And I mean,

2148
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 2: that's the march that the black women organize so like

2149
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 2: and the color women of color, organized's just just say

2150
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: black women. But the point being, even in those cases,

2151
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 2: you still got people that are like, fuck that shit.

2152
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: You know, every so like, it's every group is kind

2153
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 2: of like speaking out. But yeah, I don't know, I

2154
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 2: feel like that's it's just weird to say that's good,

2155
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 2: that's what I would want. But even when I see it,

2156
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe that's not what I want. I don't

2157
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 2: know what the fuck I want. That's how I'm at

2158
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 2: right now because him. Yeah, it's like the Van Gun

2159
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 2: It's like how I feel about Van Jones and Obama,

2160
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like somebody need to feel

2161
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 2: like that, and somebody needs to be vocal about it,

2162
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 2: and someone need to deal with these people's egos. I

2163
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 2: ain't it, you know what I mean? If I was

2164
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 2: on CNN, like I think Van Jones even said something

2165
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 2: about just because somebody voted for Trump doesn't make him

2166
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 2: a bad person. Van Jones is if you would have

2167
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 2: put that quote on TV without telling me who said

2168
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 2: it and put a list of niggas next to it,

2169
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 2: I would have picked out Van Jones. Why, because that's

2170
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 2: what the kind of shit Van Jones believes in and

2171
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 2: I think he sincerely believes that shit. And you need

2172
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 2: that kind of nigga in a public position talking about

2173
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 2: that shit, because you can't just put a nigga that

2174
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 2: has given up on white people in a public position

2175
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 2: to talk about it. America would just be like cut off, Nope,

2176
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 2: ratings down, No one wants to see this shit. You

2177
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 2: need somebody that's willing to be like no, no, no, no no.

2178
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean ain't bad. It means this because if

2179
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 2: y'all was on now, I'd be like, oh you damn right,

2180
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 2: they're a bad person. Is this the end of the statement?

2181
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 2: Because we got ten more minutes? Are we going to

2182
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 2: commercial already? Because I can leave. I didn't even put

2183
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 2: on pants for this. I didn't know it was gonna

2184
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 2: be so short, you know.

2185
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 4: So. And and for the the the activists out there

2186
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 4: that spoken stuff, God bless you, because I'm gonna tell

2187
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 4: you right now, they don't pay enough to deal white

2188
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 4: people ten years.

2189
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, But essentially, for the change that people want, you

2190
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: can't give up on white people for survival. It's not

2191
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: even a we don't have the means to do the

2192
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 2: ship that people think can be done by ourselves. We

2193
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 2: don't have the means. That's the way the power structure

2194
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 2: is set up. Only white people can fix this shit.

2195
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 2: So it's it's like people feel two ways about it.

2196
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 2: They're happy that white people like it's happy that oh,

2197
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 2: cool white people listening. Maybe they'll stick around. That's a

2198
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: good way to feel. I mean, I'm not gonna tell

2199
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 2: you how they feeling that way. But then there's always

2200
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 2: the you know, the historical lens of being like man,

2201
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 2: white people have abandoned shit so many times when it

2202
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 2: got hard, you know, when it's uncomfortable when you have

2203
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: to examine your own privilege when you and I mean

2204
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: privilege is that way. I'm not you know, I'm not

2205
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 2: saying that because I have privilege of my own. And

2206
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure if there was like a march

2207
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 2: for like y'all ask you niggas need to do better, you,

2208
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 2: you won't see a lot of niggas like, well, I

2209
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 2: don't understand what the problem is, you know what I mean, Like,

2210
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 2: I get while these white folks are fucked up, but

2211
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: me too, Like I like, that's just kind of how

2212
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 2: privilege works. But it has to start somewhere, and it's

2213
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 2: not gonna be pretty and it's not gonna be neat.

2214
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 2: I saw literally hundreds of white women harassing sisters that

2215
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 2: were like, you know, I hope white women are also

2216
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 2: paying attention to the fact that they voted for Trump,

2217
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: and I hope they're paying attention to the fact that

2218
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 2: they can be complicit in racial supremacy for white folks

2219
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 2: and people being like, why you're being divisive and I.

2220
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 1: Mean, you know, it didn't make them look good.

2221
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: And and it's messy, but it's necessary that conversation has

2222
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 2: to happen at some point. I just think niggas is

2223
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 2: tired of talking about it.

2224
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

2225
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 4: So like everybody has their point, and particularly with social

2226
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 4: media and stuff like that, everybody has their point.

2227
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a.

2228
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 4: Vicious cycle because it's the same conversation every time you meet.

2229
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 1: You got to start from point A.

2230
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, somebody graduates, then you got to start from

2231
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 4: point A. Somebody else graduates, then you got to start

2232
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 4: from point A.

2233
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 2: And you want I'm sorry to cut you off, but

2234
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 2: at some point, ideally you want them to do it

2235
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 2: right right, because yes, I don't want to do it right.

2236
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 4: Some period of time you got to talk to your people,

2237
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 4: just like look at us and be like, well, why

2238
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 4: don't you talk to your people?

2239
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: Why don't you talk to your people?

2240
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 2: Right? So, I mean that's I think that ideally, that's

2241
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get where people are gonna get stuck.

2242
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 2: But it's got to be messy at first. I have.

2243
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm not under no illusion I can't. Yeah, just how

2244
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 2: I feel about it is how I feel. I don't

2245
01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 2: know how I'm not gonna change it. I've been feeling

2246
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 2: this wait for a while now. I've been feelings like

2247
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: since they announced the march the first time, and even

2248
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 2: when they went and got some black some people, some

2249
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 2: women of color, I was like, like, do you not

2250
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 2: fuck this up and blame them? You know what I mean? Like,

2251
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 2: don't be like it didn't go down, you know, not

2252
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 2: the man we talking about this for a while. I'm sorry, y'all.

2253
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 2: You know. I saw Kristen Bell, actress, she was on

2254
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:28,040
Speaker 2: Twitter the yesterday and talking about how you know, and

2255
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 2: that's how you do a march because there was no

2256
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 2: violence and it was the police was it was peaceful,

2257
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 2: and and all I could think was this is passive

2258
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 2: regressive as fuck because what what are the violent marches?

2259
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

2260
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:43,840
Speaker 10: What?

2261
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 4: What?

2262
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 12: What?

2263
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 1: What march is you talking about?

2264
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 2: Right? Well, the march has been going on in America.

2265
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 4: Cool, We don't initiate the police initiate this, like police

2266
02:00:54,680 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 4: actually was walking with y'all, protecting y'all.

2267
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 2: Your dog, y'all even view the march is a threat

2268
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,839
Speaker 2: because of the presence of white women, right, which is fine,

2269
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 2: Which is fine, that is what I expect. It makes

2270
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 2: you wonder if they would have been out there in Ferguson,

2271
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 2: what would have happened?

2272
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: Come on, doesn't it?

2273
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't it? And at the first question you

2274
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 2: gotta ask yourself, like, well, if y'all were in Ferguson, WI, y'all,

2275
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 2: wouldy have been attacking motherfuckers? You know, like when you

2276
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 2: when you see these cities where you know, the police

2277
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 2: descend on motherfuckers with batons and riot gear. Police didn't

2278
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 2: have on riot gear yesterday. White women were showing up,

2279
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm angry at the double standing. I'm

2280
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 2: not really angry at them. They don't what can they

2281
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 2: do about it? The point is, you know, it's it's

2282
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 2: so wold to see, like Kristen Bell congratulate the march

2283
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 2: as more peaceful and better and the right way to

2284
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 2: do things, and shit when it's like, yeah, I mean

2285
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:00,160
Speaker 2: a Starbucks got fucked up, but I didn't see no boy,

2286
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 2: they attribute that to white people. Nobody attributed to the marks. Yeah,

2287
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 2: no one attributed to the march. A CBS burns down,

2288
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 2: and that's black people. That's not just black people, that's

2289
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter, that's not just Black Lives Matter that

2290
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 2: it's all black activists. You know, like they're not gonna

2291
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 2: follow The FBI is not gonna follow these motherfuckers that

2292
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 2: went to this march in social media and followed every

2293
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 2: move right, Like, you're not going on a list. Uh,

2294
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 2: as a white woman for going to this march, it's

2295
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 2: a totally different experience, right, You're.

2296
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: Not gonna be on watch list. You're not gonna be

2297
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 1: considered a terrorist.

2298
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 4: And I follow everything about you from your movements to

2299
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:44,040
Speaker 4: your tack, your telephone to your internet exposure. You know

2300
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 4: that they're not gonna monitor your flights in and out.

2301
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: They're not gonna.

2302
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 4: Monitor where you work at you you don't, you're not

2303
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 4: gonna have that problem.

2304
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when you congratulate yourself and the women you

2305
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 2: really and especially when you've never done that with any

2306
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 2: other movement and you never talked about the other marches

2307
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 2: and the reasons for these marches. It comes off real

2308
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 2: fucked up to me, Like, and that's a trust issue.

2309
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 2: I understand. I don't trust her, I don't know her.

2310
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 2: So for me, it's like, it's interesting that you would

2311
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: now choose to say that, what about you know, the

2312
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 2: marches in Charlotte where there was no violence none, Like,

2313
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 2: what where were you then? You know? What about when

2314
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: there's violence but it's not by the people that do

2315
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 2: the marches, where are you then? Like it's real convenient

2316
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,440
Speaker 2: to show up now. But the same time, this is

2317
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 2: what people want.

2318
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 4: Man.

2319
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 2: I hope it lasts, I really do. I don't think

2320
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 2: it will.

2321
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 4: I hope these white women go back to wherever they

2322
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:55,760
Speaker 4: came from, start called delicious, start going into the black community,

2323
02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:00,120
Speaker 4: stop being quote unquote better allies. I hope that they

2324
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 4: go in and motherfucking make changes.

2325
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of which last one before we moved on racism

2326
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 2: claims in fighting mark planning for Pittsburgh Anti Trump Women's

2327
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 2: March Force and the split echoing division's attention seen at

2328
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 2: the national level, the Women's Marches in Pittsburgh has split

2329
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 2: into two after the disagreements over the direction of the

2330
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 2: event to roll the women of color and the accusations

2331
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 2: of racism. The Pittsburgh events, meant to coincide with the

2332
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 2: larger Women's march in Washington, DC, will begin eleven am Saturday.

2333
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 2: So they must have wrote this Friday. Oh, they rode

2334
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 2: a Saturday with it early in the morning. Okay, organized

2335
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 2: to say the downtown marches initially planned to permit it

2336
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 2: before the split. It's only it's the only local event

2337
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 2: recognized by leaders of the main march in Washington, DC. Okay,

2338
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 2: so there were two different marches, one downtown and one

2339
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 2: at Penn Plaza. And Marie Petrarca Geyer, a permit holder

2340
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 2: for the original downtown event, told Pen Live on Friday

2341
02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 2: to the dispute began with women of color, especially concerns

2342
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 2: about their level of involvement in the planning the Downtown march,

2343
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 2: where they adequately focused on issues of importance for them

2344
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 2: was the less smith and African American organizer of the

2345
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 2: offshoot march in the East Liberty questioned on Facebook whether

2346
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 2: the Downtown march was white's only feminist event. That's when

2347
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 2: everything just blew up. According to Patrick Petrarca Geyer, horbub

2348
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 2: prows right, another white organizer of the Downtown march, responded

2349
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 2: angrily to the insinuation that the event and its planners

2350
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 2: were excluding people of color. Amid determinoil, Smith and her

2351
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 2: supporters formed a new event in East Liberty, but the

2352
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 2: controversy was far from over. In fact, so unfamiliar with

2353
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 2: the situation have described a week long online melee that

2354
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 2: started with Smith White's only feminist comment and escalated when

2355
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 2: marches blocked each other on Facebook. That's when you know

2356
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 2: it's getting real. You gotta block them. It was so

2357
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 2: bad at that point that I wasn't sure it would

2358
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 2: ever be any better, Petrarca Geyer said of the Pittsburgh controversy,

2359
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 2: and on Friday it got worse all week. A blog

2360
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 2: spot with a more complete account of the back and

2361
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 2: forth can be Oh they have a link to it,

2362
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 2: where an article can detailing the historically fraught relationship between

2363
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 2: feminism and women of color can be read here. Okay,

2364
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 2: Tracy Baton. Maybe Baton a woman of color who remained

2365
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 2: with the Women's March Downtown Toe Penn Live on Wednesday

2366
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 2: that she had in sools directed her on Facebook. As

2367
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 2: a result, the in fight Know The controversy also briefly

2368
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 2: saw the downtown Pittsburgh event removed from a national registry

2369
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 2: of system marches to the one in DC. It has

2370
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:43,560
Speaker 2: since been reinstated, organized said on Thursday. Pen Live's attempt

2371
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 2: to reach Smith and each other organizers of the East

2372
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 2: Liberty March were unsuccessful. On Friday, Celeste wrote on Facebook,

2373
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 2: they aren't even shocked or bothered that I'm harmed or

2374
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 2: attacked on their event page. They are mad because black

2375
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,960
Speaker 2: women and films had enough support to challenge them and

2376
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 2: be righteously enraged, while even at this very moment they

2377
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 2: are protecting a woman who did harm. I mean that

2378
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 2: sounds common. I mean they thought black women didn't feel

2379
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 2: in pain, not too long ago enough to do surgery

2380
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 2: without anesthesia for us. So not shocked. She also supposed

2381
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 2: the feeling when when being a black woman and asking

2382
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 2: a question becomes a movement. I never understand. Can we

2383
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 2: live is an understatement. We cannot do anything without microagguessions.

2384
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 2: It has to stop. They're so worried about wearing pink

2385
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 2: pussycat hats. That they don't even care about anything beyond

2386
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 2: the event. They don't care about being actually intersectional or

2387
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 2: performing liberating things. So predictable, so predictable. Who is this

2388
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:57,760
Speaker 2: sister in the march? So I guess they got like one.

2389
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:04,080
Speaker 2: The black woman they interviewed, Patrica Patarca Geyer, said that

2390
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Smith and her support reporters had a very legitimate complaint,

2391
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 2: sorry getting choked up in questioning the involvement of women

2392
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:16,080
Speaker 2: of color and planning in Saturday's downtown march. Patarca god

2393
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 2: also admitted to missed us, including her own in the

2394
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 2: planning and process and this initial outreach the community organized

2395
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:24,200
Speaker 2: as women of color. At one point, she said, she

2396
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 2: managed to arrange a meeting with Smith and her supporters

2397
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 2: they try and see if they could work together. They

2398
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:32,320
Speaker 2: were pretty angry. Again, it was justifiable anger, she continued.

2399
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 2: They made a couple of demands of me that I

2400
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 2: simply wouldn't do. Uh. She declined to say what those

2401
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 2: demands were. So they just decided not to be bothered

2402
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,240
Speaker 2: with the march downtown to start their own. And again,

2403
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm fully ill favor favor of all marches. They can

2404
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 2: get together for Saturday. Flow Taylor, another participant in downtown march,

2405
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 2: chalked it up to miscommunication, adding that any perceived racism

2406
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 2: or exclusion of women of color an initial planning process

2407
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 2: was unintentional.

2408
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 4: Always unintentional, always because you don't got damn consider us.

2409
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 2: Yea intent don't really matter what the end result is.

2410
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:06,040
Speaker 2: No sisters was on there. I don't believe it was

2411
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 2: ever intended to be any racism involved. But when that

2412
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 2: question was asked early on by Celeste Smith, that kind

2413
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 2: of alerted the woman who was on the Facebook page

2414
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 2: handled at the time, and I think she went the

2415
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 2: wrong way with her answer. You mean she got defensive

2416
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 2: right away, Taylor continued. The lady who set up the

2417
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 2: march in East Liberty felt like they had more experience

2418
02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 2: in running something like this and handling it because they

2419
02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 2: are a group of activists that have done events before.

2420
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 2: The communication just wasn't there, So we're hoping that moving forward,

2421
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 2: we can correct the situation. So it sounds like, hmm,

2422
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 2: that's interesting, okay. Taylor, herself as an African American woman,

2423
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 2: concluded the rest of it it was a miscommunication, so

2424
02:09:44,440 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 2: they Smith and her supporters decided to do a separate

2425
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 2: march that pretty much had an African American center, if

2426
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 2: you will, I don't know if I phrased that right,

2427
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 2: but hopefully LASA could marches and Vince would not need

2428
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 2: to be separated that way. But for the moment, this

2429
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 2: one is Portruker Guy also said she hopes this will

2430
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 2: serve as a teachable moment, citing a sensitive history of

2431
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 2: feminist movements, not including women of color. I'm really hoping

2432
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 2: that we can start a dialog from here on. Button

2433
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 2: also said her hopes are still high for a Saturday's event.

2434
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 2: So and similar issues have cropped up nationwide in the

2435
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 2: run up the Saturday's March on Washington, d C. And

2436
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 2: the planning for affiliate events elsewhere as well. New York

2437
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 2: Times reported the social media posts included one from a

2438
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:29,400
Speaker 2: black activist in Brooklyn, New York, advised white Women's March

2439
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 2: allies to listen more talk less. The paper said. The

2440
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:35,080
Speaker 2: Brooklyn activist posts also chat at those who, it said,

2441
02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 2: we're only now waking up the racism because of the election.

2442
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 2: You don't get to join because now you're scared to

2443
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 2: the post where I was born scared. The Time said

2444
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 2: similar tensions has also been seen with women's march planning

2445
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 2: efforts in states like Oregon, Tennessee, and Louisiana, promptly some

2446
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,560
Speaker 2: organizers to drop out and some white women to abandon

2447
02:10:54,560 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 2: their plans to attend much larger march in DC. I'm sorry,

2448
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 2: that's just these niggas is mad. I ain't going girl.

2449
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 1: You go, I ain't going, right cause you ain't really

2450
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: about that calls.

2451
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, man, You're gonna have to deal

2452
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 2: with that anger sometimes. Like that's I mean, that's kind

2453
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:14,200
Speaker 2: of why I.

2454
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be willing or had the patience to explain shit.

2455
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if I go to a march for playing parenthood,

2456
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's good I'm out there, but might be

2457
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 2: some women that are angry at men out there too, justifiably,

2458
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 2: So come on, don't take your ass out there if

2459
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 2: you're not willing to deal. I guess so, I guess

2460
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 2: that's what they did. They said, I ain't taking my ass.

2461
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 4: Out there, right, They go, Okay, these are women and

2462
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 4: they angry about some shit. Yeah, they're not saying men

2463
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 4: can't come but you, but you come and just notice

2464
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 4: somebody might say some shit.

2465
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 2: Do you Pittsburgh's downtown System March, meanwhile, was expected to

2466
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 2: draw up with a three thousand people, while the March

2467
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 2: of East Liberty had uh more than a thousand expected

2468
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,920
Speaker 2: to attend. So there you guys, go, is your turn? Hundred?

2469
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 4: Care?

2470
02:11:57,080 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 2: Alright? Hundred? All right, let's get into well, well, we

2471
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:05,840
Speaker 2: kind of went on with this segment. It got a

2472
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:11,360
Speaker 2: little a little long in the tooth, guys. I apologize, Okay,

2473
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 2: we had a lot to say about marching apparently, even

2474
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 2: though we talked about yesterday feedback show just reiterated a lot.

2475
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 2: I will say this though, I do want to do

2476
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:28,400
Speaker 2: one more okay, one more uh fucking with black people guys,

2477
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 2: if if you guys will allow it, I'm gonna put

2478
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:42,120
Speaker 2: it on screen real quick. White nationalist Richard Spencer punched

2479
02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 2: in the face on camera. Didn I show up?

2480
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 1: You're not even moving right now.

2481
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm not moving.

2482
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 1: Your voice?

2483
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh all right? Is it black screen or I'm just froze?

2484
02:12:58,400 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 2: All right?

2485
02:12:59,000 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 4: Cool?

2486
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:03,960
Speaker 2: Let me try to refresh. Give me a second, guess,

2487
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 2: because I want it. This is important to the show.

2488
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:15,960
Speaker 2: Just three refresh air. It has been moving a little

2489
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:18,640
Speaker 2: slow lately. I'm gonna restart this computer when I get done.

2490
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:24,160
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I'm gonna just close this and go

2491
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 2: back in. Mm hmm, all right, I closed it, and

2492
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to go back in now.

2493
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:54,600
Speaker 15: I got jeaned creams potatoes to meat us, lamps.

2494
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 2: Creams potatoes to meat us.

2495
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:05,680
Speaker 15: Creams potatoes, tomatoes, lamps, ramp palp change creams potatoes.

2496
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 2: Tomatoes, chicken, chicken, chicken chickes and.

2497
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 15: P changs, creeze potatoes, tomatoes, lamps, ramp palt dom change

2498
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:18,080
Speaker 15: crease potatoes, tomatoes, chickens chickens, crap crease potatoes, tomatoes, peas

2499
02:14:18,240 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 15: crease potatoes, tomatoes, peas creams, potaos creams, potanos, paste pass pas,

2500
02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:24,760
Speaker 15: cheas crease.

2501
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,720
Speaker 2: Potatoes, tomatoes, chicken, chicken.

2502
02:14:26,680 --> 02:14:30,240
Speaker 15: Chicken potatasies, preaze potatoes, tomatoes, pea chicken.

2503
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 11: You exciting things are happening at Burger Games.

2504
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:45,040
Speaker 1: Welcome to cane O.

2505
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:46,879
Speaker 2: What's in those new chicken snack rats.

2506
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:58,760
Speaker 7: Rats, Cristee, Chickames, Pee, Jesus Christas and bastup Pius.

2507
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 2: Taste flower tortie, Chris bit Chicken.

2508
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:08,680
Speaker 11: Us up in the new chicken snap wraps.

2509
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, get it, come and get it, niggers. That

2510
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:18,360
Speaker 2: was the sound of niggers on that guy. Why you

2511
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 2: guys didn't hit that version of a commercial? Uh is

2512
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:22,320
Speaker 2: it on screen yet?

2513
02:15:23,640 --> 02:15:26,320
Speaker 1: Let's see I see you and it just popped up,

2514
02:15:26,360 --> 02:15:26,720
Speaker 1: all right.

2515
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:30,160
Speaker 2: So this is richest man saying renowned uh neo Nazi

2516
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:35,000
Speaker 2: and he was in DC for the inauguration and he

2517
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 2: decided to give an interview on the side of it.

2518
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:38,880
Speaker 16: And it's like this is where this is where we are.

2519
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:43,440
Speaker 16: I given conferences for for ages and uh, we'll usually

2520
02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:46,320
Speaker 16: expect some protesters they'll do silly string or something like that.

2521
02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:51,720
Speaker 16: We've entered this new world where the leftist protesters, knowing

2522
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 16: not a neo Nazi, Neo Nazis don't love me to

2523
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:00,040
Speaker 16: kind of hate.

2524
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:04,720
Speaker 2: Her version of the.

2525
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:08,840
Speaker 16: It's pepees become kind of a symbol.

2526
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:24,800
Speaker 2: So, as you can see right when he was going

2527
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:31,080
Speaker 2: to point out Pepe the frog, the online hate symbol, Uh,

2528
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:37,200
Speaker 2: somebody decided to uh conversation to show him an out

2529
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:39,280
Speaker 2: left to his motherfucking grill.

2530
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:42,360
Speaker 16: Hepes become kind of a symbol.

2531
02:16:44,720 --> 02:16:46,240
Speaker 2: I'll take it back. It was an alt right to

2532
02:16:46,360 --> 02:16:49,520
Speaker 2: his face. I do love how he steadied him with

2533
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:52,320
Speaker 2: the with the one with the head right on the shoulder.

2534
02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:55,800
Speaker 2: So that he looked towards him ever so gently as

2535
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:59,200
Speaker 2: he gave him. That that work as we like to

2536
02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:07,400
Speaker 2: call it at any rate. Uh, Karen, I'm gonna need

2537
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:09,400
Speaker 2: you to apologize because I know that you do not

2538
02:17:09,920 --> 02:17:13,080
Speaker 2: like violence, and uh, you probably want to come out

2539
02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:15,720
Speaker 2: and just say right here that you know we are

2540
02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:21,440
Speaker 2: totally against what happened to him and that, uh we

2541
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:27,840
Speaker 2: don't want to see anybody get hit, right, Is that

2542
02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 2: what you want to that?

2543
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:34,960
Speaker 4: That's what the publications person says for the blackout tips anybody.

2544
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 2: You don't speak from me, I'll tell you what I say.

2545
02:17:54,080 --> 02:18:03,280
Speaker 1: Come on, and did you see the one with salons

2546
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:04,080
Speaker 1: that was hilarious?

2547
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:07,120
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen all the remix. I saw the

2548
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 2: one where they did exton't give it to you like

2549
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:12,160
Speaker 2: Rick and Morty.

2550
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:15,359
Speaker 1: The one with salons was hilarious.

2551
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I saw. This is another reason, Like

2552
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 2: I said, Man, I saw a dude, the journalist that

2553
02:18:24,160 --> 02:18:26,480
Speaker 2: came out. I was like, I would just like to

2554
02:18:27,440 --> 02:18:32,440
Speaker 2: disavowed the attack on Richard Spencer. Violence is never the answer,

2555
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:35,000
Speaker 2: white dude. And I was like, see that's why I

2556
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,680
Speaker 2: was Fuck, we can't fuck with y'all. If a motherfucker

2557
02:18:38,720 --> 02:18:42,039
Speaker 2: that wanted to see genocide of my people gets punched

2558
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:44,840
Speaker 2: in the face. I'm allowed to be like, fuck that dude,

2559
02:18:45,879 --> 02:18:46,480
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

2560
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:46,760
Speaker 7: Man?

2561
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:49,600
Speaker 2: You ain't on my side? Nigga were not friends?

2562
02:18:50,640 --> 02:18:51,080
Speaker 12: What is this?

2563
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:52,480
Speaker 4: What is this?

2564
02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:56,400
Speaker 2: Ship? Oh man? Come on, doll. Even Martin Luther King

2565
02:18:56,520 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 2: wasn't having smiling like, oh did you see?

2566
02:18:59,760 --> 02:18:59,800
Speaker 4: That?

2567
02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:10,480
Speaker 2: Got him? He ain't talk? Abolcolm got him? Malcolm? Oh man,

2568
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:11,280
Speaker 2: come on?

2569
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:11,720
Speaker 4: Dog?

2570
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:15,760
Speaker 9: Uh but uh.

2571
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:24,640
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so ze at all because I'm not either.

2572
02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:31,080
Speaker 2: I am not either, oh man. I'm not even doing

2573
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:34,360
Speaker 2: white people news today. I already feel good off of that.

2574
02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:40,400
Speaker 2: That that right cross he got that whoa. He had

2575
02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:42,360
Speaker 2: to get his mind right too. He walked off in

2576
02:19:42,400 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 2: the distance. He was looking like, shake this off, right?

2577
02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:48,560
Speaker 2: And I think the fist of hit on was white.

2578
02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:52,199
Speaker 2: And that's my problem. What about the kids in Wisconsin?

2579
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:54,320
Speaker 1: What about them kids in Wisconsin?

2580
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:57,000
Speaker 4: Come on, next time somebody says some racist ship to me,

2581
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:58,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, what about the kids in Green Bay?

2582
02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:03,400
Speaker 2: His white on white violence is it has to end?

2583
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:05,760
Speaker 4: That's what y'all say next time to my I said,

2584
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 4: what about the white on white violence happening in wisconstin.

2585
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:12,000
Speaker 2: If y'all want us to address the racism in our community,

2586
02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need y'all to end white on white violence

2587
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:17,440
Speaker 2: in the streets of DC.

2588
02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:20,200
Speaker 1: Talk to y'all people, fix it. Where y'all watch is that.

2589
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm sick of it?

2590
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,960
Speaker 1: Is the black someie? I said, what's the fathers? These

2591
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:26,960
Speaker 1: single white mothers?

2592
02:20:27,440 --> 02:20:28,760
Speaker 2: Where are the step fathers?

2593
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:29,879
Speaker 1: Hmm?

2594
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 2: Where the stepdad is at in these houses? That's a problem.

2595
02:20:32,920 --> 02:20:35,360
Speaker 2: Y'all ain't got enough divorce dads in your houses and

2596
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:37,400
Speaker 2: end up with this kind of shit running over into

2597
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:41,080
Speaker 2: my streets, burning up y'alln Starbucks, I'm sick of it.

2598
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Speaker 2: Go back to Europe if you don't like it here. Okay,

2599
02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:47,320
Speaker 2: you want your white genocide so much, why don't you

2600
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Speaker 2: go to Sweden, go live somewhere where the where the

2601
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Speaker 2: white people at.

2602
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 1: Back to Germany where you came from.

2603
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go to Alaska. Oh wait, they got women's watches

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Speaker 2: up there too. Go to Antarctica. Okay, you want to

2605
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Speaker 2: start your own colony of whiteness? Mm hmmm, disgusting. Sad

2606
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Speaker 2: to see what do white races it has come to

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Speaker 2: looking for a handout, looking for affordable care Act to

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Speaker 2: let's do some guests the race now that it is

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Speaker 1: You can't. And it was a smooth process. I took

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Speaker 4: it was really easy to use, and my skin feels

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Speaker 2: only a client, but she's also the president. All right,

2659
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Speaker 2: let's get to this racism. My bad.

2660
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Speaker 1: I was just going through a routine, y'all.

2661
02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Here's a story about a man named Eugene.

2662
02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:23,199
Speaker 11: We responded last night to a report of miss.

2663
02:24:23,160 --> 02:24:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh wait, it's a cop statement instead of a news le.

2664
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:28,840
Speaker 2: All right, I'll read it. A man named Eugene Matthews,

2665
02:24:28,959 --> 02:24:33,440
Speaker 2: who apparently eighty three years old, an eight three year

2666
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 2: old man with a long history with Manatee County Sheriff's office,

2667
02:24:37,320 --> 02:24:39,800
Speaker 2: was ordered hell without bond Wednesday on the second degree

2668
02:24:39,879 --> 02:24:41,800
Speaker 2: murder charge after the text say he shot and killed

2669
02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:44,360
Speaker 2: his best friend's wife when she and her family came

2670
02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:49,680
Speaker 2: to get her her late husband's dog. Eugene Matthews, whose

2671
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,800
Speaker 2: home had signs trust the one that trespasses, he will

2672
02:24:52,840 --> 02:24:55,200
Speaker 2: shoot instead of Colin nine one one, came out on

2673
02:24:55,280 --> 02:24:59,040
Speaker 2: the front porch shooting a handgun, striking Rebecca Rossson, sixty

2674
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 2: five years old. She later died at the hospital. Matthews

2675
02:25:02,720 --> 02:25:06,520
Speaker 2: appears before the appear before the Circuit Judge Janet dunningan

2676
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:10,320
Speaker 2: on Wednesday afternoon for his first appearance here, where he

2677
02:25:10,400 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 2: politely answered her questions. We would agree to no bond

2678
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:16,320
Speaker 2: and assist the public, Defenis said, and as an assistant,

2679
02:25:16,360 --> 02:25:19,600
Speaker 2: say Attorney Art Brown approached the podium to address the court.

2680
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:23,120
Speaker 2: Just before seven pm Tuesday, Rosson, her brother in law,

2681
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:26,520
Speaker 2: and daughter had gone to Matthew's home to get her

2682
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:29,680
Speaker 2: husband's dog. According to the Sheriff's Office, Rosson's husband, Matthew's

2683
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:32,720
Speaker 2: best friend, had died only a week prior. Rosson's brother

2684
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:35,040
Speaker 2: in law sixty two knocked on Matthew's front door and

2685
02:25:35,160 --> 02:25:37,720
Speaker 2: Matthew's girlfriend answered. The victim's brother in law called for

2686
02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:40,480
Speaker 2: the dog. Bart picked him up and again walking away.

2687
02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:42,680
Speaker 2: So he wanted to keep that man's dog. That's what

2688
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:43,120
Speaker 2: it was.

2689
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:43,680
Speaker 8: Wow.

2690
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:46,400
Speaker 2: As he walked away, Matthews came out on with a

2691
02:25:46,480 --> 02:25:51,760
Speaker 2: handgun started shooting the family. Lady told detectives, oh, they

2692
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 2: told him about it. Three shots were fired as Rosson's

2693
02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 2: family quickly tried to flee, one shot that destruck the

2694
02:25:57,560 --> 02:26:02,080
Speaker 2: windshield and hit Rebecca Rosson in the face. Matthews family

2695
02:26:02,160 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 2: said he acted as self defense, claiming that Rosson family

2696
02:26:04,800 --> 02:26:08,800
Speaker 2: had come barreling through the gate and fenced entrance into

2697
02:26:08,879 --> 02:26:11,160
Speaker 2: the property and kicked down the front door. But the

2698
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Sheriff's office said that account contradicts the our witning statements

2699
02:26:13,959 --> 02:26:16,400
Speaker 2: and the evidence from the scene. Everything that we got

2700
02:26:16,480 --> 02:26:20,280
Speaker 2: points to what they told us. Obviously, they'll be reviewing

2701
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:22,360
Speaker 2: the case and will act accordingly as far as they

2702
02:26:22,400 --> 02:26:24,800
Speaker 2: want to keep the second degree murder charge, change the charge,

2703
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:27,560
Speaker 2: or drop the charge. But we would have been remiss

2704
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:30,960
Speaker 2: if we had made arrest last night. When de Wut's

2705
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,080
Speaker 2: arrived at the home moments after the shooting, Matthews was

2706
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 2: president fairly cooperative. Matthews, a Korean War veteran, is no

2707
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:39,199
Speaker 2: stranger to the Shriff's office, with numerous arrests in his past.

2708
02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:42,920
Speaker 2: He's certainly well known to anybody that has been around

2709
02:26:42,959 --> 02:26:46,000
Speaker 2: Manateee County for a while. Bristol said, we kind of

2710
02:26:46,040 --> 02:26:48,400
Speaker 2: have a long history with Eugene at the damn first

2711
02:26:48,480 --> 02:26:51,480
Speaker 2: name basis at the Shriff's office, dating back to former

2712
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:55,600
Speaker 2: Sheriff Charlie Wells, But we haven't heard much of Eugene

2713
02:26:55,640 --> 02:26:58,520
Speaker 2: for a long time up until last night. In nineteen

2714
02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:01,800
Speaker 2: ninety one, Matthews five a conspiracy and unlawf for arrest

2715
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:04,440
Speaker 2: lawsuit against the Sheriff's office, claiming he had been unjustly

2716
02:27:04,520 --> 02:27:07,400
Speaker 2: arrested in the nineteen eighty nine webins charge. A jury

2717
02:27:07,440 --> 02:27:10,040
Speaker 2: eventually awarded him three hundred thousand dollars, but that verdict

2718
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:12,720
Speaker 2: was later thrown out because several jurors lied on their

2719
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:16,320
Speaker 2: jury question their forms. In April nineteen ninety nine, at

2720
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:18,040
Speaker 2: these in the Sheriff's office settle for one hundred and

2721
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:21,800
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars split between Matthews and his attorneys. Guess

2722
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:26,039
Speaker 2: the race of Eugene Matthews, Karen White? Karen's going with white.

2723
02:27:26,120 --> 02:27:29,039
Speaker 2: Let's check what the Chisey Chisey chat room has to say.

2724
02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 2: Dog lives matter, White shot Rebeccy, the good hair, white

2725
02:27:36,280 --> 02:27:39,680
Speaker 2: dog loving white man, done enough crime to be on

2726
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:42,400
Speaker 2: a first name basis with the cosson not dead wild

2727
02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:47,960
Speaker 2: wild white boy, all right, white white, white and white white.

2728
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:52,880
Speaker 2: He politely answered the question in court white as Trump's America,

2729
02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:58,080
Speaker 2: White dogs come diamond doesn't in the black community were

2730
02:27:58,120 --> 02:28:12,480
Speaker 2: not dying over one correct answer is white. Damn. Nobody

2731
02:28:12,879 --> 02:28:15,960
Speaker 2: guessed anything but white. I tell you it comes to

2732
02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:20,920
Speaker 2: that dog news man. You guys, you guys always err

2733
02:28:20,959 --> 02:28:25,160
Speaker 2: on the side of whiteness, and you're always right. Uh,

2734
02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:27,039
Speaker 2: let me see if I can get his uh, get

2735
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:29,520
Speaker 2: him on screen. It's time without everything shutting down, the

2736
02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 2: freezing mm hmm, Karen, you let me know if it

2737
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:34,960
Speaker 2: comes up.

2738
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:35,840
Speaker 9: M hm.

2739
02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:38,440
Speaker 1: We don't know sometimes.

2740
02:28:39,440 --> 02:28:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yep, Karen got that bevel shaking the bevel table.

2741
02:28:52,360 --> 02:28:53,520
Speaker 2: Y'all we see it.

2742
02:28:53,640 --> 02:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, old white man.

2743
02:28:55,040 --> 02:28:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty three couldn't help itself. You're not gonna take blue.

2744
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:03,920
Speaker 8: Oh he do look like that dude?

2745
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:07,080
Speaker 2: Now march on this. Uh, let's just go to the

2746
02:29:07,120 --> 02:29:09,520
Speaker 2: bonus round. This has been a long show, and obviously

2747
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:13,080
Speaker 2: we need to watch football. No song, let's just get

2748
02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:17,320
Speaker 2: right into it. How about this one? A married woman

2749
02:29:17,400 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 2: and her ex lover staged a home invasion at the

2750
02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 2: home she shared with her husband, then shot a dog

2751
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:28,840
Speaker 2: and planted drugs in his car because she was unhappy

2752
02:29:28,879 --> 02:29:35,199
Speaker 2: in her marriage. All up next on Snap.

2753
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Speaker 8: For You.

2754
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my show been coming back on Centrix. I know

2755
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Speaker 2: I was on for my Man, but my new show

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Speaker 2: is Criminals at Work.

2757
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Speaker 1: Criminals. I never heard this one.

2758
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Speaker 2: Oh it's so good. What no, no, no. The last

2759
02:29:55,280 --> 02:29:58,840
Speaker 2: ones I watched a woman wait, she just had some

2760
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:02,520
Speaker 2: mental issues and she worked in this factory and she

2761
02:30:02,720 --> 02:30:06,000
Speaker 2: just started believing that people was paying putting deer urine

2762
02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:09,640
Speaker 2: on her clothes and shit. She didn't have a reason why,

2763
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:12,160
Speaker 2: but she was like, my, it's a conspiracy against me.

2764
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:15,320
Speaker 2: And so eventually, you know, because the claims are so

2765
02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:18,760
Speaker 2: outlandish and obviously she didn't have deer earing on her

2766
02:30:18,879 --> 02:30:24,800
Speaker 2: like they could prove it, she got fired. So she

2767
02:30:24,920 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 2: got fired. Man, she went to a car, got a

2768
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:30,800
Speaker 2: gun and just start killing people. Like she shot all

2769
02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:33,520
Speaker 2: three of the people she blamed. Then she had like

2770
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:36,280
Speaker 2: a standoff with the police. Then she put the gun

2771
02:30:36,400 --> 02:30:40,119
Speaker 2: down and they arrested her, but she killed at least

2772
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:43,920
Speaker 2: one of them, I think. And then one of them

2773
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:46,320
Speaker 2: was about a dude that was a porn star and

2774
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:50,680
Speaker 2: he killed a dude with a sword. He killed his

2775
02:30:50,760 --> 02:30:54,400
Speaker 2: best friend with a sword because once again I think

2776
02:30:54,440 --> 02:30:59,440
Speaker 2: he had some mental issues and he the nigga would

2777
02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:02,360
Speaker 2: dude like he was. It was like a crew. It

2778
02:31:02,480 --> 02:31:05,080
Speaker 2: was he's a black dude. The other dude was agent.

2779
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:07,120
Speaker 2: So they used to like kick it together and that

2780
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:09,920
Speaker 2: thing was like they would tag team like in their

2781
02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:12,879
Speaker 2: porn They would be in scenes together and they specialized

2782
02:31:12,920 --> 02:31:17,560
Speaker 2: in like a very special brand of like male humiliation porn, right,

2783
02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:21,960
Speaker 2: and so the black dude will be acting too weird,

2784
02:31:22,160 --> 02:31:24,360
Speaker 2: like he would give people five by five pictures of

2785
02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:26,600
Speaker 2: him fucking women and shit, like if you ever need

2786
02:31:26,680 --> 02:31:28,680
Speaker 2: me to do some work, here's some some stuff I've done,

2787
02:31:28,959 --> 02:31:30,320
Speaker 2: and they would think it was kind of funny, but

2788
02:31:30,400 --> 02:31:33,879
Speaker 2: it was also weird, you know, right, so uh and then.

2789
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:37,040
Speaker 1: He huh because unless you were applying for like a

2790
02:31:37,120 --> 02:31:38,600
Speaker 1: pawn job with this person, was the point.

2791
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, it was on set, so he'd be giving it

2792
02:31:41,080 --> 02:31:42,960
Speaker 2: to women like if you need to work women, you know,

2793
02:31:43,120 --> 02:31:46,320
Speaker 2: here's some of my work. And then he also started

2794
02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:48,480
Speaker 2: going too far and scenes, getting too rough with the women,

2795
02:31:48,959 --> 02:31:52,160
Speaker 2: so they fired them. And so when they fired him,

2796
02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:53,920
Speaker 2: he had no job, He had no the state, start

2797
02:31:53,959 --> 02:31:56,160
Speaker 2: living out his car, and then he went to jail

2798
02:31:56,400 --> 02:31:59,120
Speaker 2: for some bullshit. And then like when he got out,

2799
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:01,560
Speaker 2: his home boy who he had winning, you know, they

2800
02:32:01,640 --> 02:32:04,119
Speaker 2: used to do scenes together, was like he had started

2801
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:05,680
Speaker 2: the company and shit, and he was like, hey man,

2802
02:32:05,920 --> 02:32:08,199
Speaker 2: why don't you come with us to get on your feet.

2803
02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:11,119
Speaker 2: Motherfucker ain't pay no rent. He was just playing video games.

2804
02:32:11,160 --> 02:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Our DANMN shit. I don't know if he really was

2805
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:15,400
Speaker 2: playing video games, but that's their thing on that show.

2806
02:32:15,520 --> 02:32:17,480
Speaker 2: They always cut to people playing video games and that.

2807
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:21,400
Speaker 1: They all look like the last durations, like two generations to.

2808
02:32:21,440 --> 02:32:24,920
Speaker 2: Go, right, So they're playing video games and then like

2809
02:32:25,240 --> 02:32:27,720
Speaker 2: the motherfucker, they was like, hey, dog, you need to

2810
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:30,560
Speaker 2: pay some rent. And so he was like, I don't

2811
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:32,560
Speaker 2: need to pay shit, and they was like, well, you

2812
02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:34,560
Speaker 2: gotta here's some money, and you gotta months to fire

2813
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:37,680
Speaker 2: a place to live. I'm past. They was like, you

2814
02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:39,880
Speaker 2: need to go. He was like, y'all wouldn't have no

2815
02:32:39,959 --> 02:32:42,480
Speaker 2: company if it wasn't for me, and just lying about

2816
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:44,480
Speaker 2: how he was the most important parton and they was like, no,

2817
02:32:45,000 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 2: get the fuck out. Then they gave him another month.

2818
02:32:48,120 --> 02:32:50,039
Speaker 2: He ain't get out. They went to confront him again

2819
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:53,560
Speaker 2: and they said he walked around the corner. They heard

2820
02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:56,440
Speaker 2: somebody screaming. They came he had stashed from random dude

2821
02:32:56,480 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 2: with a sword. Then his friend Tom, like everybody else,

2822
02:33:00,520 --> 02:33:02,920
Speaker 2: started running, but Tom thought he could like talk some

2823
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:05,640
Speaker 2: sense to him, and he killed Tom ass so quick.

2824
02:33:06,200 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 2: Then he went on the run. Four days later, they

2825
02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:11,120
Speaker 2: found this motherfucker and they confronted and it's all on

2826
02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:14,400
Speaker 2: the internet, like video of it and like articles in

2827
02:33:14,440 --> 02:33:17,640
Speaker 2: the Daily Mail. Everything. They confronted this motherfucker. He had

2828
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:20,600
Speaker 2: when the police found he drove out to a cliff,

2829
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:22,680
Speaker 2: got out of his car. He had a sword. He

2830
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:25,280
Speaker 2: had an eight hour stand off, holding the sword and

2831
02:33:25,840 --> 02:33:28,039
Speaker 2: standing at the cliffs edge like I'm gonna kill myself,

2832
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:30,680
Speaker 2: y'all come closer and shit. And he was so tired

2833
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:32,280
Speaker 2: by the end he couldn't even stand. He was just

2834
02:33:32,360 --> 02:33:36,160
Speaker 2: like leaning on the sword. And then they tried. They

2835
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:38,920
Speaker 2: eventually just tried to taze him and shoot him with

2836
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:42,600
Speaker 2: non litho guns and he jumped out the thing and

2837
02:33:42,760 --> 02:33:47,879
Speaker 2: killed herself. Fell fell forty feet. Yep, yep.

2838
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:48,960
Speaker 1: It was wow.

2839
02:33:49,280 --> 02:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Criminals like, man, it's good. It's so good. One woman

2840
02:33:52,959 --> 02:33:56,879
Speaker 2: killed her coworker. She killed her coworker, y'all over fucking

2841
02:33:56,959 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 2: yoga pants. She shoplifted some yoga pants, and she had

2842
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:02,680
Speaker 2: got kicked out of another store. This one happened in DC.

2843
02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:05,200
Speaker 2: She had got kicked out of another store for stealing,

2844
02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:08,000
Speaker 2: so then they moved her to that store and she

2845
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:10,600
Speaker 2: was stealing again. But she I guess she knew the

2846
02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:15,080
Speaker 2: woman was gonna gonna catch her so she staged not

2847
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:19,000
Speaker 2: just a robbery, she stuff she hit this woman with

2848
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:21,840
Speaker 2: three hundred times with different things, like she had three

2849
02:34:21,959 --> 02:34:24,960
Speaker 2: hundred injuries, and then she hit did she hit herself?

2850
02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:28,800
Speaker 2: And she laid there morning until the manager came in

2851
02:34:28,959 --> 02:34:33,800
Speaker 2: and the magic called the police obviously, and she was like,

2852
02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:36,200
Speaker 2: I got my head is heard. I you know, I

2853
02:34:36,280 --> 02:34:39,160
Speaker 2: can't remember nothing. I can't remember what race the people

2854
02:34:39,240 --> 02:34:43,600
Speaker 2: were that two dudes came in. She claimed she was

2855
02:34:43,640 --> 02:34:46,320
Speaker 2: sexually assaulted. She made it look like the other woman

2856
02:34:46,400 --> 02:34:50,160
Speaker 2: might have been sexually assaulted. Nobody was sexually assaulted. They

2857
02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:52,120
Speaker 2: found the only reason they caught her because she was

2858
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:55,760
Speaker 2: lying and she had They found her DNA and the

2859
02:34:55,840 --> 02:35:00,320
Speaker 2: woman's car because basically, she killed the woman, got in

2860
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:02,280
Speaker 2: a woman's car and drove it up the block so

2861
02:35:02,480 --> 02:35:05,199
Speaker 2: no one would be suspicious, so that she could basically

2862
02:35:05,320 --> 02:35:07,080
Speaker 2: go in there and stage the crime scene. She took

2863
02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:10,200
Speaker 2: some shoes that was on display, some male shoes, and

2864
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:12,360
Speaker 2: trudged them warm through the crime scene to make it

2865
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:15,000
Speaker 2: like some men had been in there, and then faked

2866
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:19,800
Speaker 2: the sexual assaults and uh laid down and acted like

2867
02:35:19,879 --> 02:35:22,119
Speaker 2: she was hurt too, and she claimed she raked as well.

2868
02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:23,280
Speaker 2: But it was all made up.

2869
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:26,680
Speaker 4: She and people wonder why if they come to my door,

2870
02:35:26,959 --> 02:35:28,520
Speaker 4: cause you can I guess a little glass.

2871
02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you can't badge in. I'd be like

2872
02:35:32,200 --> 02:35:33,000
Speaker 1: mm mmmm.

2873
02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:37,760
Speaker 2: They you know it? Wow? They did. They deliberated twenty

2874
02:35:37,800 --> 02:35:41,240
Speaker 2: minutes on her case. That's how cool that was, like, nigga,

2875
02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:41,640
Speaker 2: you did this?

2876
02:35:42,280 --> 02:35:46,119
Speaker 1: It was like what how about that? And I don't

2877
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:47,840
Speaker 1: know guilty.

2878
02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:49,880
Speaker 2: And the thing with criminals at work, man, I don't

2879
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:51,480
Speaker 2: know if you got to be black, but all the

2880
02:35:51,520 --> 02:35:54,080
Speaker 2: criminals being black so far so and cause it's on

2881
02:35:54,200 --> 02:35:56,760
Speaker 2: centries and it. Man, one dude was a One dude

2882
02:35:56,840 --> 02:35:59,120
Speaker 2: lied to say he was a doctor and he was

2883
02:35:59,240 --> 02:36:01,640
Speaker 2: out here. He was broke. He was lying like like

2884
02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:04,200
Speaker 2: he just was lying, like I got this house. He

2885
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:06,280
Speaker 2: take pictures of the house and bring it in and

2886
02:36:06,400 --> 02:36:08,520
Speaker 2: so all the sisters at work was feeling them. But

2887
02:36:08,640 --> 02:36:11,240
Speaker 2: then he would do shit like go out to eat

2888
02:36:11,720 --> 02:36:13,560
Speaker 2: and he told everybody his family was dead and shit.

2889
02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:16,520
Speaker 2: So he went out to eat with these with like

2890
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:18,680
Speaker 2: like on dates with some of these women. But he

2891
02:36:18,840 --> 02:36:23,760
Speaker 2: always forget his wallet. He had a badge. And he's

2892
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:25,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be a doctor, so he's supposed to have

2893
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:28,400
Speaker 2: certain level of security clearance. He always had a women

2894
02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:32,200
Speaker 2: like badger men and shit, and then when they eventually

2895
02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:35,200
Speaker 2: caught him, it was funny. The reason he got caught

2896
02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 2: is becuz patriarchy. This nigga went out on a date

2897
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:42,080
Speaker 2: and he was like, I got, I left my wallet home, sorry,

2898
02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:43,879
Speaker 2: and she was like and he was like, and I'm

2899
02:36:43,920 --> 02:36:47,560
Speaker 2: out of gas to get here. So it was a

2900
02:36:47,680 --> 02:36:51,320
Speaker 2: sister that was basically like her eyebrows got raised cause

2901
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:54,120
Speaker 2: women aren't like paying for no motherfucking dates. I don't

2902
02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:57,400
Speaker 2: give a goddamn how long we live as a society.

2903
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:00,840
Speaker 2: You don't clear that shit up front. Ninety nine per

2904
02:37:00,879 --> 02:37:03,560
Speaker 2: cent of women are assuming that your ass is paying.

2905
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:07,240
Speaker 2: If you asked him about yeah, like you need to

2906
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:10,360
Speaker 2: clear that clearing. We ain't gone that far. Okay, we

2907
02:37:10,480 --> 02:37:13,560
Speaker 2: still having women's margins cusin patriarchy, and we still paying

2908
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:16,720
Speaker 2: for dates because of patriarchy. So uh, this niggas was like,

2909
02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:18,800
Speaker 2: I hung out in my wallet, you know, And she

2910
02:37:18,920 --> 02:37:20,800
Speaker 2: was like, it's cool, I'll pay for it. And he

2911
02:37:20,959 --> 02:37:22,320
Speaker 2: was like, I got, I'm gonna get you back, don't

2912
02:37:22,320 --> 02:37:24,640
Speaker 2: worry about it. And also I'm out of gas. She

2913
02:37:24,760 --> 02:37:26,280
Speaker 2: was like, well, just take my car and you can

2914
02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:29,000
Speaker 2: get some gas, and so he did. But that was

2915
02:37:29,080 --> 02:37:31,000
Speaker 2: when she started being like, well, this niggas poe to

2916
02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:33,200
Speaker 2: be rich. She got this house, you got this car.

2917
02:37:33,400 --> 02:37:38,440
Speaker 2: Like so then she so she went to badger men

2918
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:41,000
Speaker 2: and this after he ain't paid her back, and she

2919
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:43,120
Speaker 2: seeing that he wouldn't badge up for himself in so

2920
02:37:43,640 --> 02:37:46,240
Speaker 2: she like snuck off and called the police security, like, hey,

2921
02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:49,000
Speaker 2: I think we true up here, and he's not who

2922
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:52,920
Speaker 2: he says he is, And so they they came up

2923
02:37:52,959 --> 02:37:55,840
Speaker 2: and found him and arrested him. His car was a

2924
02:37:55,920 --> 02:37:58,120
Speaker 2: car he stole from some white dude. Ain't even have

2925
02:37:58,200 --> 02:38:00,640
Speaker 2: his picture on it, like he had take this picture

2926
02:38:00,680 --> 02:38:02,680
Speaker 2: on top of it. They peeled it off his white dude.

2927
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:08,480
Speaker 2: So then so then after that they found out this

2928
02:38:08,600 --> 02:38:11,320
Speaker 2: nig appearance was alive. He had lied about them dying,

2929
02:38:11,959 --> 02:38:16,880
Speaker 2: and he was married. He had a wife, and his

2930
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:20,040
Speaker 2: wife thought he was a doctor too, and she thought

2931
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:22,080
Speaker 2: he had got his job back because she thought he

2932
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:25,520
Speaker 2: was just unemployed. So she he had been leaving the

2933
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:28,040
Speaker 2: house to go to work and his doctor clothes, but

2934
02:38:28,160 --> 02:38:30,200
Speaker 2: he ain't had no job. He was just going there

2935
02:38:30,879 --> 02:38:35,880
Speaker 2: and and then was no and in his car he was.

2936
02:38:36,200 --> 02:38:37,920
Speaker 2: He made all this shit up in his car. He

2937
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:41,000
Speaker 2: had weed in his car, and once they caught the weed,

2938
02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:43,280
Speaker 2: that's what he told the truth and about how he

2939
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:45,320
Speaker 2: lied about everything and ship because I guess he ain't

2940
02:38:45,360 --> 02:38:46,000
Speaker 2: want to get in trouble.

2941
02:38:46,480 --> 02:38:49,600
Speaker 1: But she gonna get divorced. I hope she does.

2942
02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:51,760
Speaker 2: Oh you know she got a divorce. Come on, man,

2943
02:38:52,200 --> 02:38:53,560
Speaker 2: that man criminals at work.

2944
02:38:53,600 --> 02:38:54,280
Speaker 1: It's so good.

2945
02:38:54,440 --> 02:38:57,720
Speaker 2: Man, I watched that ship. I just I can't believe

2946
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:01,119
Speaker 2: the audacity of people. Soon the shit they do. Man,

2947
02:39:01,400 --> 02:39:04,400
Speaker 2: just like good agreed. So yeah, it's back on city man.

2948
02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:06,680
Speaker 2: If y'all watching it. Man, if y'all got centric, it

2949
02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:07,360
Speaker 2: ain't an h D.

2950
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what is.

2951
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:11,760
Speaker 2: It ain't an HD anyway, So y'all find it on

2952
02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:14,120
Speaker 2: your local God. A woman in her ex love of

2953
02:39:14,160 --> 02:39:16,680
Speaker 2: stage burglary at home down there's a big ass tangent. Sorry.

2954
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:19,280
Speaker 2: A woman our ex love a lover have been charging

2955
02:39:19,360 --> 02:39:22,000
Speaker 2: multiple felonies at the day allegedly staged a break in

2956
02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:23,840
Speaker 2: at a home she shared with her husband because she

2957
02:39:23,959 --> 02:39:27,600
Speaker 2: was unhappy in her marriage. They say man wish memon

2958
02:39:27,840 --> 02:39:31,200
Speaker 2: thirty and sayed Hassan thirty eight. Our accused of trying

2959
02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:33,960
Speaker 2: tying Mamma's husband to a chair beating him with a

2960
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:37,120
Speaker 2: stick at the married couples home in suburban Chicago neighborhood.

2961
02:39:37,480 --> 02:39:39,480
Speaker 2: They also reportedly shot dead a dog and then they

2962
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:43,840
Speaker 2: put it in maman's husband's car. Cops say they also

2963
02:39:43,959 --> 02:39:46,320
Speaker 2: playing at marijuana and drugs in the vehicle to make

2964
02:39:46,400 --> 02:39:50,400
Speaker 2: him look guilty. How was they gonna explain the beating

2965
02:39:50,480 --> 02:39:52,840
Speaker 2: him with a stick? What they playing on?

2966
02:39:52,959 --> 02:39:53,279
Speaker 8: Kiln?

2967
02:39:53,720 --> 02:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Cook County. Cook County Police responded to a report of

2968
02:39:57,440 --> 02:40:00,760
Speaker 2: a home of agion around eleven thirty pm December thirtieth,

2969
02:40:01,560 --> 02:40:04,320
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Investigators were told that a man in

2970
02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:06,360
Speaker 2: a black ski mask had entered the home, punched my

2971
02:40:06,440 --> 02:40:08,120
Speaker 2: mind in the face, tied her husband to a chair,

2972
02:40:08,560 --> 02:40:10,840
Speaker 2: bound him with packing tape, and beat him with a stick.

2973
02:40:11,959 --> 02:40:15,640
Speaker 2: It's always amazing when they do the uh that punched

2974
02:40:15,680 --> 02:40:18,640
Speaker 2: me in the face too moment. You know, we gotta

2975
02:40:18,640 --> 02:40:21,560
Speaker 2: make it look we gotta make it look real, Okay,

2976
02:40:22,760 --> 02:40:24,360
Speaker 2: investigators told yes.

2977
02:40:24,440 --> 02:40:24,480
Speaker 10: So.

2978
02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:28,240
Speaker 2: They later determined that Hassan was the master sailor and

2979
02:40:28,320 --> 02:40:31,400
Speaker 2: that Mama had planning the attack with him. Cook County

2980
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:33,880
Speaker 2: shared a spokeswoman, Sophia and Saw, said she was not

2981
02:40:33,959 --> 02:40:35,480
Speaker 2: happy in a marriage that appears to be the mode

2982
02:40:35,480 --> 02:40:38,040
Speaker 2: of an investigation. The two have been arrested in charge

2983
02:40:38,080 --> 02:40:41,640
Speaker 2: on Tuesday were home invasion aggravated and unlawful restraint, fouling

2984
02:40:41,680 --> 02:40:44,960
Speaker 2: a false police report as well. They also are charging

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Speaker 2: connection to an earlier incident in Skokie, Illinois, in which

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Speaker 2: his son shot dead a dog and placed it in

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Speaker 2: the husband's car along with a gun and marijuana. Mama

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Speaker 2: gave her an ex lover a key to the vehicle

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Speaker 2: so he could carry out the crime. So basically they

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Speaker 2: wanted to make it aim him for killing the dog

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Speaker 2: and selling drugs. Like who what they think they think

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Speaker 2: it was Mike Vick?

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Speaker 3: Like what what?

2994
02:41:06,640 --> 02:41:06,680
Speaker 4: What?

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02:41:07,120 --> 02:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Whose crime set? What criminal crime set? Does that overlap?

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Speaker 2: How much time do you even get for that? Earlier

2997
02:41:14,440 --> 02:41:16,879
Speaker 2: records show the two conspired to foul fose domestic battery

2998
02:41:16,959 --> 02:41:21,120
Speaker 2: claim claims against her husband December sixteen, but she dropped

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Speaker 2: the charge. However, well then that's when the plans off.

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Speaker 2: Y'all already, y'all already headship. Oh no, I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's like snapped. You accuse him of domestic violence, then

3002
02:41:34,520 --> 02:41:37,560
Speaker 2: you drop it, and then you and then when you

3003
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Speaker 2: go to court. You maybe unsealed like oh, and I

3004
02:41:40,760 --> 02:41:42,760
Speaker 2: one time I accused him before, but I dropped it

3005
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Speaker 2: because I was so scared of him or whatever. We

3006
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Speaker 2: tried to work it out so for that, they were

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Speaker 2: initially eventually additionally charged with agravatory to an animal possession

3008
02:41:52,040 --> 02:41:55,440
Speaker 2: of marijuana. However, her song still stashed to slashed the

3009
02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:58,520
Speaker 2: tires of her husband's car before she did so at

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Speaker 2: a hearing. Third, say, my mom said, Bella two hundred

3011
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Speaker 2: thousand and Hassans is at five four hundred thousand. Guess

3012
02:42:04,760 --> 02:42:05,119
Speaker 2: the race?

3013
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Speaker 1: MM set the names again.

3014
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Speaker 2: Her name is Mehwish Maman and his is Sayed Hassan.

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Speaker 1: Muslim.

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Speaker 2: That's not a race, Oh, I guess. I mean, I

3017
02:42:21,480 --> 02:42:24,920
Speaker 2: guess you could say like man, Eastern Arab, something like that. Okay,

3018
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Speaker 2: let's see what the chat room believes. Uh before I

3019
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Speaker 2: did it? Okay, all right, cool Arab? East Indian? Wait white?

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Speaker 2: A black one would pack of shit but and put

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Speaker 2: some hot grits on the back of the stove and

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Speaker 2: be done with it. Uh, East Indian or black? We

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Speaker 2: can't have both black and Muslim.

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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02:42:52,959 --> 02:42:54,840
Speaker 2: Well, black is the race on that dogs again? The

3026
02:42:54,920 --> 02:43:00,240
Speaker 2: evil dregs or white race, Ali Baba, Arab, Arab, Middle Eastern,

3027
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:03,840
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern Arab, been watching killers at word black Osama

3028
02:43:03,920 --> 02:43:05,920
Speaker 2: been abusing Arab and black.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The correct answer is and Karen, you got it right.

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Speaker 2: They're Arabian or Middle Eastern or some kind of brown. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 2: we are eating an Americans. Some of y'all did miss it,

3033
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Speaker 2: but you did try, and that's what matters. Guys, you

3034
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Speaker 2: gave it the old racism try and I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: get there. It's moving slow, but I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 2: get them on screen too before we go to the sword. Ratchetness, sore,

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Speaker 2: ratchiness music. Let me know if and when it shows up.

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Speaker 2: Care because my computer is moving slow as always. All right, cool,

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Speaker 2: We'll give it a few more minutes. But I'm frozen now.

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Speaker 2: Every time I go to screen share lately, I've been

3041
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Speaker 2: getting frozen and I don't even like that movie.

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Speaker 1: Kids love it, though they put it the hell out of.

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Speaker 2: Let it go. Mm hmmm, uh all right, well, let

3044
02:44:50,160 --> 02:44:53,320
Speaker 2: me see what I can do here. I'll try refreshing. Okay,

3045
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, probably is having trouble talking to your devices.

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Speaker 2: Restart my browser. Mm hmmm, all right, let's do it.

3047
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Speaker 2: Let's restart it. It's like, hey, let's just redo its

3048
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Speaker 2: free cat. I mean, come on, crowdcast, I was.

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Speaker 1: Rooting for you, all, rooting for you outdamn you mm

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Speaker 1: mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Nigga almost.

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02:45:35,440 --> 02:45:38,040
Speaker 12: But what you're gonna do about this right now? What

3053
02:45:38,160 --> 02:45:40,880
Speaker 12: you gonna do about what you're gonna do about the Bible?

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02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh boy?

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Speaker 12: What are you gonna call this a bigot? Are you

3056
02:45:45,400 --> 02:45:48,600
Speaker 12: gonna call this dangerous? Well, if you do call this

3057
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Speaker 12: and me dangerous, yes, sir, we are dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Ellen James White, all right, I should be

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02:45:59,440 --> 02:46:01,760
Speaker 2: back on screen a second, all right, and then I

3060
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Speaker 2: should be able to share my screen now, all right,

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Speaker 2: and then they should pop up. And after they pop up,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about soord Racchess just showing up at all

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Speaker 2: yet not yet, but you are moving.

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Speaker 1: That's a positive. Okay, it just popped up. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they got chilling it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look when you're chopping down the cakes, so

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Speaker 2: yo of a woman eight years younger than you just married,

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Speaker 2: I mean she must got that that snap vagina doll.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Man, I don't ever want to experience

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Speaker 2: kill somebody husband. Vagina, you can keep.

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Speaker 14: That you.

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Speaker 2: Need to know what that's like. All right. A man

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Speaker 2: with a samurai sword has been arrested in crick Laid

3074
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Speaker 2: following a disorder. This was to happen somewhere else because

3075
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Speaker 2: those words don't sound like anything from here. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: police are called. At one am. A thirty five year

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Speaker 2: old man was arrested on sufficient suspicion of a fray,

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Speaker 2: common assault and possession of a bladed article in the

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Speaker 2: public space. So at least on bail pending further inquiries.

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Speaker 2: So I guess he was just just making a lot

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Speaker 2: of noise and got arrested. But that was a quick one.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow. This episode has

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Speaker 2: been long enough, uh and I got the White Woman

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02:47:37,840 --> 02:47:42,600
Speaker 2: March to get to so I got to go. All

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Speaker 2: right now, we'll be back tomorrow though. Thank you. I

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed this long episode. Until then, Love you.