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Speaker 3: I told you I was trying in the beginning a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since you're Miami.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever eveen. Well, of course

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Speaker 4: I'm not a yeller.

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Speaker 1: No, I get like really calm, like a witch. People

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Speaker 4: it's so dumb. I'm just like, I better not say

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do a lot of stopping and you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want rich, you don't want dinner, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: I made your favorite spaghetti. I don't like spaghetti.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't like spaghetti anymore?

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Speaker 2: No more for us, give me the spaghetti.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, spaghetti right, that's mine. Hello the Internet, and welcome

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Speaker 4: to Season four, twenty three, Episode two of Dirt Thy Guys,

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Speaker 4: the production by Heart Rady. We told our guests we

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Speaker 4: don't yell on this show, and that's true. Realizing incorrect

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Speaker 2: The best screams from the beginning, Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 4: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 4: into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also

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Speaker 4: the history of a different icon. We just dropped Marilyn

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Speaker 4: Monroe Yesterday Yesterday Morning with Blair Sak.

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Speaker 2: Very very fun episode. Go check that out. The episodes

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Speaker 4: It is Tuesday, January twenty seventh, twenty twenty sixth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the twenty seventh real all kinds of things

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Speaker 2: to commemorate this day. Very apt considering everything that's happening

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Speaker 2: in the world. It's in Vietnam Peace Day, remember that

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Speaker 2: war of global and American imperialism. Also National Chocolate Cake Day. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you all. Praise be to the chocolate cake and

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Speaker 2: also National Holocaust Rememberance Day. So there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: remember today as we as we moved through an unprecedented

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Speaker 4: Unprecedented as America.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Like I said in yesterday's show, it's more

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Speaker 2: that this date has determined that eligibility requirements for for

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Speaker 4: This is for rememorates the release of two. Yeah, do

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Speaker 4: we get to win this time?

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Speaker 4: That it's commemorating that day. Yeah, yeah, one, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 4: My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm

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Speaker 4: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host cool,

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Speaker 2: Wow you did a you did like a little pump

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Speaker 2: Up to this guy outside I'm looking at Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: Miles Great, the Lord of Lake. The show going with

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Speaker 4: Great to be here with a few Miles. We're thrilled

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Speaker 4: of Black People. Last year, she launched a show called

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Speaker 4: Our Ancestors Were Messy, about the gossip, scandals, and pop

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. It's Nicole.

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Speaker 4: In Washington where like half the crowd is on his payroll.

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Speaker 2: Fuck you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. I used to live in d C.

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Speaker 3: And it was I mean, it's just everywhere you go.

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Speaker 2: I just fuck it. It's the catalog. I don't need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you hate, you hate to see it? What is

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Speaker 2: That's your kids watch how it's made, how it's made.

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Speaker 4: and following the murder of Alex pretty over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: shit like this rather than like, because you know, Steven

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Speaker 4: Miller is already like obviously lying like that. I mean,

442
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Speaker 4: that's fine, but like I want to see that same

443
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Speaker 4: shit from you know, mainstream Democrats point out that the

444
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 4: people who like a lot of people were talking this

445
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: weekend about the rotating villain theory where they like have

446
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Speaker 4: people whose turn it is to go ahead and vote

447
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: for the evil thing, and like it's a way to

448
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Speaker 4: I guess, spread it out so that nobody gets like

449
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: all the tainting like coming to them. But like, at

450
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Speaker 4: the same time, that also just feels like when you

451
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Speaker 4: enter a criminal organization and they're like, you're gonna have

452
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Speaker 4: to kill someone to like prove that you're cool, do

453
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Speaker 4: this line in front of us, you know, like they're

454
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Speaker 4: just making sure that everybody's like in line and willing

455
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Speaker 4: to vote for the bad thing to prove that they're

456
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Speaker 4: a Democrat, which I just I don't know. It feels

457
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: like getting organized around spinelessness is not what we need

458
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Speaker 4: from them.

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Speaker 2: No, No, especially when you've seen a group like capitulate

460
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Speaker 2: the way they have just over the last year. Many

461
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Speaker 2: times when they had or working towards having some kind

462
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: of meaningful leverage to get the administration to do something different,

463
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, I don't even know I fucking shut down.

464
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Speaker 2: It's fucking ended. I don't know who cares.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the shutdown was so hard.

466
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Speaker 3: It was like they had everybody, the momentum behind them,

467
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Speaker 3: everybody backing them. It just feels a lot of times

468
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Speaker 3: like they have not fully come to terms with the

469
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Speaker 3: fact that we are in something very dark and very

470
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Speaker 3: dangerous and very different than whatever they experienced in the sixties, seventies, eighties,

471
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Speaker 3: ninety I mean, this is totally different.

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Speaker 2: But suffunch with those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah actually right, like he doesn't mean it, He's not

474
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Speaker 3: gonna they would never, you know, do it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they mean it, Yeah they do it.

476
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Speaker 2: They're doing to stop yeahah yeah.

477
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Speaker 4: So that's all context for Chuck Schumer coming through taking

478
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Speaker 4: to social media to call for Ice to leave Minnesota.

479
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Speaker 4: He did use some capital letters. Yeah, Ice out of Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Now, so okay, man waves fist at cloud. How do

481
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Speaker 2: you but you actually you might? So what are you

482
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Speaker 2: going to do? What's everybody going to do? Because that's

483
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Speaker 2: what started I used the all caps on now okay. No,

484
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Speaker 2: I meant like legislatively, like using the powers that are

485
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Speaker 2: available to you as like a sitting senator of the

486
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Speaker 2: United States, is.

487
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Speaker 4: That it's actually not my turn to do the difficult thing.

488
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Speaker 4: We actually have a rotating group of people who do

489
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Speaker 4: difficult things. So we're we're going to talk about it. Well,

490
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Speaker 4: we're taking it under advisement.

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Speaker 2: There's another there's actually another congress person who is doing

492
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Speaker 2: like a light maya culpa because they're like, why would

493
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Speaker 2: you vote for this bill? Why? Why?

494
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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

496
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Speaker 2: This is a representative Gonzales from Texas, he said, this

497
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Speaker 2: is Vicenta Gonzalez. He said, well, let me make it clear.

498
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Speaker 2: My vote was not to fund ICE. But what I

499
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Speaker 2: was voting for was to ensure that our agencies here

500
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Speaker 2: in South Texas were funded that Like, but but I

501
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Speaker 2: but I guess ICE too. I got to get you man. Yeah, yeah,

502
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: it was a.

503
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Speaker 1: Time front with the tie in whatever. You gotta fund.

504
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Speaker 2: That, right, and like this bill again that they're even like, well,

505
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: you know what, we got to like, we got to

506
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Speaker 2: really make sure we're getting concessions out of the out

507
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Speaker 2: of the Trump administration if we're going to vote for

508
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: this malarkey. And it's all incrementalism. It's not the kind

509
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Speaker 2: of things that puts slams the brakes on the killings.

510
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: It's just it's like with more sparkle emojis. They want

511
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Speaker 2: to quote an independent federal state investigation, which includes Minnesota

512
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Speaker 2: officials of ice murders and tactics. A ban on ice

513
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Speaker 2: use of face masks, face masks, body cameras, a ban

514
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Speaker 2: on Rodney. Where have I heard that before?

515
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Speaker 4: I feel like that before, and I'm surprised.

516
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Speaker 1: Well, even wearing body cameras.

517
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Speaker 2: Doesn't seem I think some might be.

518
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Speaker 4: But overall, but by the way, there is twenty million

519
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Speaker 4: dollars in funding for body cameras in the current appropriations bill.

520
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Speaker 4: They're not mandatory though, all right, We're not trying to

521
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Speaker 4: be hard asses here, right right.

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Speaker 1: My god.

523
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Speaker 3: And it's like body and at least the body cams,

524
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: which you can't like when when they set them up

525
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: so that you can't turn them off. That's like a

526
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: small but huge thing that came out of the Ferguson protests.

527
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Speaker 3: Rat have been able to like bring additional accountability and justice.

528
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: It's not everything, but it's something so to know that

529
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Speaker 3: they're not even doing that, right.

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Speaker 4: And it also is used as a surveillance tooled by

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Speaker 4: the police. The unfortunate side effects of cameras. They're like, yeah, actually,

532
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 4: we were trying to get funding for this already, so thanks, Yeah,

533
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Speaker 4: just what else you got in here, Miles.

534
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Speaker 2: Oh man, uh, just ban on inventing the invented administrative

535
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 2: warrants that are basically they're like, oh, we don't need

536
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: a judicial warrant to like enter a house. They're just

537
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: going off the vibes of that, there's no laws.

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Speaker 4: The same in the constitution.

539
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, whatever, I don't know, whatever whatever that the

540
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: thing from fucking National Treasure. I guess they're adding they're

541
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: doing they're doing that's from a movie, bro, what the

542
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: fuck they're.

543
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: Doing the thing where they're like and could you like

544
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 4: please stop, Like this is now a negota tactic. We're

545
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: like negotiating is something that's like illegal under the constitution

546
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: that like they should be busy taking to the fucking

547
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Speaker 4: Supreme Court right now.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, like to even say, use the

549
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Speaker 2: term law enforcement with these people who do not abide

550
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: by the law is beyond laughable. But again that's still

551
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Speaker 2: if we're looking at this in the context of we

552
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: believe what their stated mission is as an organization, which

553
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: is to enforce immigration, that's not what this is. This

554
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: is meant to create. This is this is they're trying

555
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Speaker 2: to terrify people.

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Speaker 4: They're doing what they intend to do right, Yeah, exactly.

557
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: And and show people if you want to quote unquote

558
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: interfear or hold us to account, then we are actually

559
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: we've been ordained by this state to end your life

560
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Speaker 2: and we will not see consequences. As Greg Bovino just said,

561
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: they whisked the shooters out of Minnesota already, and they're

562
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Speaker 2: like are they are they still on the streets. He's like, well,

563
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: you know, they're not on the streets in Minnesota. They're

564
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Speaker 2: on like just being really fucking I don't know if

565
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: you saw. He had an interview with Dana Vash on

566
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Speaker 2: CNN on Sunday, and he just kept saying the same

567
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: bullshit over and over again, even though on CNN they're like, oh,

568
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: let's look at the tape right now. Can you show

569
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: me right where you're saying this happened because it doesn't

570
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: show that. He's like, well, we got we're doing our

571
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: own investigations, like can you can we'd love we would

572
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: love to fucking see what you're going off. Where is that?

573
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: Because we have we have like five angles and it's

574
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Speaker 2: all showing the same thing. And he still could not,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was just like mmmm, which probably is

576
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Speaker 2: why there's a lot of damn it's control happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that that is something like we I think

578
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Speaker 4: we talked yesterday that there's some Republicans who are being like,

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Speaker 4: like Susan Collins being like, I want to transparent investigation, right,

580
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Speaker 4: people who are you know Susan Collins is out right, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean she's she's always gonna do She's always gonna play

582
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Speaker 2: the part of concerned senator who does fuck all when

583
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Speaker 2: it when when you know when it's time to do it,

584
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: when it's trying to get busy. But then you have

585
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Speaker 2: like Lisa Murkowski or Tom Tillis, like some of them

586
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: are retiring, so they're doing the oh, I'm going to

587
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: turn up because I'm not running for reelection anymore, so

588
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: watch me say things outside like breaking the lines with

589
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Speaker 2: the regime. Like James Comer, again, there's like a lot

590
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Speaker 2: of headlineser are like there are fractures on the right.

591
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Speaker 2: But I think people need to dial that back a

592
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Speaker 2: little bit. I would describe these as shook ones are

593
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: speaking out of turn, but with not much conviction. Because

594
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: James Comer said, quote, if I were President Trump, I

595
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: would almost think about if the mayor and the governor

596
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: are going to put our ICE officials in harm's way

597
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: and there's a chance of losing more what we're seeing,

598
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 2: great description of what exactly exactly. Then then maybe go

599
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Speaker 2: to another city. So that was him kind of like, maybe,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, if not, I've tried to tow the line.

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Speaker 2: I think we're winning them over. Guys. Yeah, yeah, go

602
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Speaker 2: to another city.

603
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Speaker 1: Go to another city, try just do this again.

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Speaker 2: Well, and they keep saying like that they think Philadelphia

605
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: is going to be next, and every Philadelphia is like,

606
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: have you been to Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And also just.

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, you don't like to please don't. That's exactly

609
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: what Blake said when we're talking about this, because but

610
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: that's also terrifying, right because if they're built a little

611
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: bit differently, you can see the escalation happening there that

612
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: they're they're so desperate, the administration so desperately wants. Senator

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Speaker 2: Pete Rickots from Nebraska called the situation quote horrifying and

614
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: said that there should be a prioritize they should prioritize

615
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: a transparent investigation. But then he came back and said,

616
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: but my support for funding ICE has not changed. Yeah,

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00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, so it's like the Republicans again, don't don't

618
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: worry about them. Even the ones you think are trying

619
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: to do something, they're not doing shit.

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00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: They're yeah, they're just asking questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think again, when you look

622
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Speaker 2: at just even the pundits and the words of the

623
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: administration right now, there's it feels like the right wing

624
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: propaganda machine doesn't know which direction to pedal because there's

625
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: there's back pedaling on the on the subject, there's regular

626
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: pedaling just like it's maybe fine, we have to look

627
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: at the investigation first before we come to conclusion, and

628
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: then there's people straight pedaling more bullshit. So you're like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there's clearly not a unified mession messae

630
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Speaker 2: on how to do this. Like, for example, Benny Johnson,

631
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Speaker 2: a famous bullshit mouthpiece for the regime, was saying that

632
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Speaker 2: pretty was a paid agitator and terrorist who pulled the

633
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Speaker 2: gun on agents, so he was killed in self defense.

634
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: A lot of other right wing social media pundits whatever

635
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: Nazi freaks on Twitter or just saying like Preddi was

636
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Speaker 2: a terrorist, and they all tried to justify it by

637
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: claiming something happened that absolutely did not, which was that

638
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: he drew his weapon right, And everyone's like, bro, there's

639
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Speaker 2: none of nothing shows that at all. He didn't even

640
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Speaker 2: they disarmed him and then he was killed, so okay. Sure.

641
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Speaker 2: The administration seemingly has tried to cool the rhetoric, probably

642
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: because no one believes the fed's version of events, and

643
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 2: Trump's approval rating has him just firmly in the we

644
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: need to rig the midterms territory, which they were.

645
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Speaker 4: Trying to do, as we talked about on yesterday's episode.

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Speaker 4: They were like, we'll leave a nice city. You have

647
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Speaker 4: here be a sham off.

648
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Something happened to it.

649
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: Well, we'll leave Minneapolis if you just give us all that,

650
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Speaker 4: give us the.

651
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Data, give us the voter data now. And you're like,

652
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: what the fuck are y'all talking about, because again it's

653
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: not about immigration enforcement, even like it never was. Okay,

654
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Speaker 2: And so there's also the like spokespeople are backpedding. Caroline

655
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Levitt broke ranks with Christy nom and Greg Bovino, and

656
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Speaker 2: she was like, look, the president hasn't has it. President

657
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: hasn't used the words domestic terrorists to describe this person

658
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: like these other two cabinet officials have and then she

659
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: said that Tom Holman would be the point person on

660
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota operations, being both meaning Bovino and Nome are sidelined

661
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: in that sense, like if you want to. But Tom

662
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: Holman is the least articulate fucking person. He's like a

663
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: walking brain injury, and he's like, yeah, I think I

664
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: understand about He's like whoa, He's gonna get out there

665
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: and say who knows what. But that's where they're at

666
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: in terms of trying to reorient a bus for people

667
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: to be thrown under. Because I think Trump's also said

668
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: he posted on truth socials like I'm talking to Governor

669
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Wills and we want this to be worked out. So

670
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: he's even taking the position of like, okay, let me

671
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: solve a problem, which again is very different than when uh,

672
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, Renee Good was killed and was very much

673
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: like no, I don't know a time about No, that

674
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: was bad, and that's we're going to keep We're going

675
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: to keep moving forward. I think they've just lost steam

676
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: narratively to keep doing that without it becoming just even

677
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: more laughable. The Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche was on

678
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Fox and he was pressed about the hasty conclusion the

679
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: dj put out that pretty was a domestic terrorist, and

680
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: he even tried to pretend that this was a tragedy,

681
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: which was a little bit I was like, Oh, I

682
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: thought you're you're just gonna go all in on being

683
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, that everything was done by the

684
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: letter of the law. But here's the Deputy ag talking

685
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: about it and trying to describe the killing as a

686
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: quote tragedy with all the respects are.

687
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Speaker 6: My question is more pointed, do you believe your colleagues

688
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 6: may have gone farther? You are an attorney at DOJ

689
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 6: eighteen US Code twenty three thirty one. It has a

690
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 6: legal definition of domestic terrorism, and it doesn't appear to

691
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 6: most of the country that have watched the available video.

692
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 6: And we'll see if there's bodycam video. I'd love to

693
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 6: know if that's going to come out, if there was

694
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 6: such a thing, But it does not appear to have

695
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 6: met that definition of domestic terrorism. So I'm just sort

696
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 6: of wondering how you in the DOJ are viewing whether

697
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 6: your colleagues may have gone too far.

698
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 7: Look, I don't I don't think anybody thinks that they

699
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 7: were comparing what happened on Saturday to the legal definition

700
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 7: of domestic terrorism, first of all.

701
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: But they just use the phrase, the legal phrase. They

702
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: just use the legal definition of domestic terrorism to describe

703
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: him as like christin anyone thinks.

704
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: That again, we said it, but we don't mean so.

705
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: Look, he tried it. He tried it, and now he's

706
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: going to try and pivot to be like, now you

707
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Speaker 2: are in.

708
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Speaker 4: This, Joe, literally like, oh my god, you thought we

709
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: were being serious about.

710
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: This because just because the head of Homeland Securities designated

711
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Speaker 2: someone as a domestic terrorist, do you think she's being

712
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: serious and using legal definitions?

713
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Guys, at a time when like the

714
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: whole world's eyes was on this event and she came

715
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 4: through with that, you think we were being literal? Right? No, no, no, no,

716
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: It's called poetic license.

717
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: This is how this is how he describes it. So

718
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't domestic terrorism, So what is it?

719
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 7: What we saw was a very violent altercation, and I

720
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 7: am not going to prejudge the facts. You're right, there's

721
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 7: a bunch of video that's out there. There's a bunch

722
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 7: of video that we haven't seen yet in the in

723
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Speaker 7: the minutes leading up to what happened, and in what

724
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 7: happened afterwards, and you're right to the extent there's bodycam

725
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 7: or other videos that that that witnesses are still providing

726
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 7: to us. So so I'm not describing it as anything

727
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 7: except for a tragedy.

728
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 2: The video that I've seen like starts pretty early.

729
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see them getting out of their cars, attacking

730
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: a woman and him coming up to try to protect.

731
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: That woman, like I don't know what, I don't even

732
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: like protect, not even like yo, like stop sucking, where

733
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, are you okay? Let me help you

734
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: up these fuckers?

735
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: You yeah, and then like how much early are we

736
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 4: gonna go? We're gonna see what do you have for breakfast?

737
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: Like well, no, go back about fourteen years to this

738
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 2: tweet I found or some ship or whatever they're.

739
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: Gonna that's exactly it, or his brother or his cousin

740
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: who is attached to the thing.

741
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: And again this is this is the same playbook they

742
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: run on black people, people other people of colored that

743
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: are killed by police, where it's like we already know

744
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: you killed an innocent person, and then you're gonna start

745
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: smearing them and you might find you might you might

746
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 2: find some out of context photo and be like well, look,

747
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: did you see that the guy had a mean look

748
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: in this picture. It's like, I don't know what the fuck.

749
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: It looks like a high school football photo. Have you

750
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: seen anybody in high school? They all try to look tough.

751
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: So another one is Judge Andrew Napolitano. He was on

752
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: Newsmax and he was straight up like, na, this is

753
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: a fucking murder. Which Napolitano he's he's like he does

754
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: the broken clock thing every now and then, like he's

755
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: not He'll he'll like be like, man, Trump's a fucking mess.

756
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Other times will be caping for the cop like but

757
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: here's Andrew Napolitano on Newsmax though. This is his take

758
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: when the anchor's like, I don't know, what do you

759
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: think is going on here?

760
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: In this particular case, they did remove his gun. I

761
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: understand them removing his gun if they're going to restrain him.

762
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 5: Then they shot him in the back while he was

763
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: on his belly on the ground. That's quote murder, and

764
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 5: that's an issue that the fans are going to have

765
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: to work with, and the state, once it gets the

766
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: the evidence in the case, is going to have.

767
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: To work with. So to that, MAGA judge. He was like, uh,

768
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm like, it looks bad, guys. I

769
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: don't know. It's usually easier for me to defend law

770
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: enforcement for this kind of thing. But that's that' that's

771
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: kind of where things are. And I think it definitely

772
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: like it's weird for all of the bluster you see

773
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: out of the administration, they occasionally do the thing where

774
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: they act like the fucking puppy that shit all over

775
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: the carpet and it's like, oh, yes, and try and

776
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: sort of like be like, oh, we're trying to remedy

777
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: this or whatever. But I mean, at this point, I

778
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: don't know, no one should take any of the words

779
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: out of the administration seriously in terms of them acting

780
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: as if there's any regret or anything like that. It's

781
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: they're all just trying to manage the optics because they

782
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: don't want to come off as what they are, which

783
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: is a bloodthirsty regime that has what could care less

784
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: about anyone being killed if they're standing in the way and.

785
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: They're trying to overthrow democracy. As we saw an hour

786
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 4: after the shooting, they were like, we'll leave if you

787
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: give us the vote, directors, and that probably feels like

788
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: a dead end to them at this point because there's

789
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: so much attention on that email like that they kind

790
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: of fucked that one up. So now they're maybe backpedaling

791
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: away from this particular battle to go do it somewhere else.

792
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, yeah, but again, I think, in the

793
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: wise words of Marjorie Taylor Green, we are being incited

794
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: into a civil war, you know what I mean. They

795
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: are trying every moment, every provocation from Ice is again

796
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: they want the pot to boil over and have mass

797
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: civil unrest so they can say, guys, look at what's happened.

798
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have an election if this hit. Guys

799
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: are gonna act, yeah and straight up that is what

800
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: they're going to do, and then hope that people are

801
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: so worn down at that point that we don't press

802
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: back when they try and fully abscond with the entire thing.

803
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably about sixty percent complete here. Yeah,

804
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: but I think that's why, like I was saying on

805
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: Monday's episode, seeing the general strike in Minnesota should be

806
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: the beginnings of a pattern for how more cities are

807
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: going to respond collectively, because you know, obviously, like the

808
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: person to person confrontations help to delay things, but there's

809
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: something about the collective action too that will help. And

810
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: I think also kind of like really accepting the fact

811
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: that we can't really count on these legislators to help

812
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: us at the person level, and we all need to

813
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: begin using the skills that we have to community build

814
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: and to communicate and find like like minded people to

815
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: really begin to create those sort of structures that keep

816
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: us protected and looking out for each other, because, like,

817
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, I see it all like in LA especially

818
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: after the fires, so many like so many different kinds

819
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: of mutual aid networks have propped up, and they're just

820
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: shifting gears. So like if you follow this one account,

821
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: they're now fully on like help this vendor who was

822
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: just kidnapped, help this family who like had someone taken away,

823
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: they need this, or that. Those things are existing and

824
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: you just got to find them and get involved. And

825
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: it's it's at least that it's the easiest way to

826
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: not feel fully fucking overwhelmed by everything that's happening, because

827
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I completely understand what people are like, I don't even

828
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do. It's like that's

829
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: the fucking point that's they want everybody. I don't even

830
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: know what to do because everyone goes, okay, you want

831
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: to fuck with me, ben, Let me get together with

832
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: all my people and let me make sure everybody's good

833
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: on my side, because if if this is really about

834
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: protecting each other, then at least you know, you don't

835
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 2: have to get ready if you stay ready. Yeah. Hey,

836
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: there is more of us than there are of them.

837
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again the doing is wildly unpopular.

838
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: And their god is money, and their god is money.

839
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: Their god is money, their god is money. If you

840
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: fuck with their god, they start killing. Oh god, maybe

841
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: Greenland isn't a thing. Do you see what happened to

842
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: the bond market? Oh go, Because at the end of

843
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: the day, that's the one thing that these people think

844
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: will keep them from justice is wealth. I feel like

845
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: if I get rich enough, if I can, if I

846
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: can keep people three socioeconomic classes away from me, then

847
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: that I probably won't get touched. And that's and you

848
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: see that with all the greed that's happening these people.

849
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: But those people aren't real, you know, the people who

850
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: are three economics socioeconomic classes below me, they're not Is

851
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 4: that real?

852
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: They're just an.

853
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 4: Idea that I can easily dismiss in my head.

854
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: It's the cast of the musical Oliver.

855
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: I think, all right, let's take a quick break and

856
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: then we'll be back to talk about another thing that

857
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: is giving people hope, which is the upcoming documentary about

858
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: our Queen, Milania.

859
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Trump will be right back.

860
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: And we're back, and just real quick. The same day,

861
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: on Saturday, the same day that Ice murdered another protester,

862
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: the White House hosted a fancy film screening the world

863
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: premiere of Amazon's Milania the documentary slash Obvious Bribe, directed

864
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: by Brett Ratner. When we say obvious bribe, referring to

865
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: the fact that Amazon paid forty million dollars YEP for

866
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: the rights for the right to put it on Amazon Prime,

867
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 4: yeah documentary, Yeah, forty million dollars.

868
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: You know what the total price tag of this fucking

869
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: thing you now is is seventy five million. Because Amazon

870
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Speaker 2: put thirty five million into marketing and distribution. They're trying

871
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Speaker 2: to put this thing everywhere. That's more than even the

872
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift Eras documentary put into their Although I feel

873
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: like they don't have to spend shit to get them.

874
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's good. That is that is

875
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: not how film film studios work. They don't know this

876
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: is already popular, so we're not gonna put money.

877
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, this is already popular, We're gonna put five.

878
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: Times the money into this.

879
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: Uh. They use like tracking data to see if like

880
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: people are interested in and then they just like triple

881
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: down until you know, the only thing you know is

882
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 4: that there's a third Avatar movie coming out.

883
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this we can always be Yeah.

884
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: That's right.

885
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 4: We all know, we all know they're they're not stopping

886
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: during our life lifetime. But yeah, So they did this

887
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: at the White House because obviously they couldn't do it

888
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: anywhere else. They turned the White House into a red carpet,

889
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: brought in some top notch, washed up dirt bags such

890
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 4: as Tony Robbins, and then Mike Tyson was there, which

891
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: hurts my heart.

892
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean he's always been on yeah like.

893
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: This, you know what, like Zoom CEO Eric Yanu and

894
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: Apple CEO Tim Cook also came like that, what the

895
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: fuck are people doing?

896
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we know what they're doing, right,

897
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: They're just ensuring that their exit position is strong. Everyone

898
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: has everyone has an exit position. They're saying, well, how

899
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: do I survive right now? And how do I look

900
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Speaker 2: out the other end of this because if you're if

901
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: you're running a gigantic company Apple, He's like, well, the

902
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: line shuts fuck isn't going down, so I'm not going

903
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: to invite the ire of this administration. And that will

904
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Speaker 2: also help me build a bunker that is even deeper

905
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Speaker 2: in the Earth's surface to hide myself from the automated

906
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: guillotines that are developed for the world.

907
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Speaker 1: And they are so like motivate by bunkers. They do

908
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Speaker 1: of a bunker.

909
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: They love a bunker.

910
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: They love a islands, their house.

911
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: On the island.

912
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: They love, as we've discussed before, having conversations amongst each

913
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 4: other about whether you have to plan to shoot the

914
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: pilot who flies you in your family to the island

915
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: because otherwise he's going to go back at his family

916
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: and want some of your food, so you gotta you

917
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: gotta take him out.

918
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: That's a real. That's a real.

919
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: That's well from somebody who's like I am a VC

920
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: like multimillionaire in Silicon Valley. I'll tell you a conversation

921
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Speaker 4: I've heard not once many times. Yeah, among the people

922
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 4: up there is, so.

923
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: They always they're always trying to figure that part out.

924
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: What do I do with the workers?

925
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is very classic.

926
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what I once I get, Once I get

927
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Speaker 2: what I need from them, I don't want to feed

928
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: them or protect them, So how do I do it?

929
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: And then like they'll just run all these fucking weird

930
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: thought experiments. But yeah, the like apparently, like Jeff Bezos

931
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: has himself was being like, you gotta make this fucking movie.

932
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: Do something. You gotta because again, like look, Tim Cook's there,

933
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 2: and obviously Jeff Bezos secured his position by being like, yeah,

934
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: I will pay, I don't care, just say a number,

935
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: how much money do you want me to give you,

936
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: and let's just exchange some kind of products. So it

937
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: seems like not a total grease payment, but it.

938
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Speaker 4: We're gonna need some citizen journalists because they're gonna buy

939
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: a bunch of tickets. We're gonna need some citizen journalists

940
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: to go to these theaters and film the empty theaters

941
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Speaker 4: that are supposedly sold out.

942
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean you think that's the thing is

943
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: like even the early ticket sales are low. I wonder

944
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: if they're gonna do that thing where they're like, well,

945
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: let's see what the people do before we fully fully

946
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: put our thumbs on this scale. I think that's what

947
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna do.

948
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: But they're not going to let this be a total flop.

949
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah at least, like.

950
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: They're dumb, but they're dumb and it will be and

951
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: they're not they're not going. They're not Like, if you're

952
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: really worried about it, you would have bought out all

953
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: the fucking at the beginning, Like it was one of

954
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: those human trafficking movies that there's qing on free stale

955
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: and they're just show up, bro, it's free tickets. It's

956
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: free tickets. But I just don't with this. It feels

957
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: like maybe they're trying to just see, like could off

958
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: the strength of the Nope, Nope, because all the projections

959
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: are like, dude, they're gonna be death fucking worth. Yeah,

960
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: you're gonna have gonna have fucking tumble weeds blowing down

961
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: the fucking aisles because it's gonna be so empty. But sure, sure,

962
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: there's like two documentaries ever that did well at the

963
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: box office. You know, there's been like Supersize Me and

964
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: Fahrenheit nine one one, Like those are holding for Columbine.

965
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like and those movies make like, I

966
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 4: don't know, ten million dollars or something.

967
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not however much they put how much you

968
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: said they put into this thing.

969
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: Seventy five million. That's the bill they have. This needs

970
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: to make seventy five million plus a dollar for a

971
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: great considered a profit. It's just all it's all nonsense.

972
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Speaker 4: So we'll wait and see.

973
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will be. I'll be a waiting reviews of that.

974
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Doesn't sound Does it sound like it's

975
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: gonna be that great that people have seen it? They're like,

976
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, but sure, I guess it's a documentary.

977
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you want to talk about Brett Ratner?

978
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: No, okay, fine, But anyways, in the same way that

979
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 4: the gestapo ice agents are keeping a data base of

980
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 4: names of people who take video of them, I feel

981
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: like we got to keep an eye on all the

982
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: people who like go to these sorts of things.

983
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: Just be like, hey, we're and be like I want

984
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: to forget that. Yeah, you know, say, what the fuck

985
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: is wrong with you? Exactly? Did you think you? Yeah?

986
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, Nicole, It's been such a pleasure having

987
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: you on the show Where Can People Find You? Follow

988
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: you all that good stuff.

989
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: All my business is on the internet.

990
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: You can follow me on social at either our ancestors

991
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: were messy, Uh, well you follow me there and at

992
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: Nicole with an H. So it's n I C H

993
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: O L E W T H and H. I've never

994
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: had to really like say that out loud.

995
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: It's not smooth.

996
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough. You do it enough though, you'll

997
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: find a kid.

998
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: But it's literally, like you know, when you have one

999
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: of those names.

1000
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: I never thought about it until I talked to Nicole's

1001
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 3: without Nature. They're like, I just say my name is Nicole.

1002
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I always have to say it's Nicole

1003
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: with a name. It's like, literally my name.

1004
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: It's a classy the classy spelling.

1005
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Ooh thank you.

1006
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: I knew somebody named that. In high school we always

1007
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: heard nicholl. Yes that yeah.

1008
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1009
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 4: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying

1010
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: and I am going to say it can't be the

1011
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 4: New Malania documentary.

1012
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was my thing though.

1013
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 3: No, you know, there's a Chilean protest song. I don't

1014
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: know how to say it in Spanish. But in English

1015
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: it's the people United will Never be defeated. And this

1016
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 3: American composer, Frederick something did a performs this song in

1017
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: thirty six variations and takes you through like the history

1018
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: of the piano by just performing the song over and

1019
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: over and over again. And I think I am one

1020
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: variations eight. I'm like making my way through. I want

1021
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: to listen to all of them. He put on a

1022
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: concert and it was this huge cell laboratory, like like

1023
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: protest moment. I think it was an early two thousands,

1024
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: and I just love it. And I think at this moment,

1025
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: it's just giving me some peace and some hope.

1026
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we're gonna fight.

1027
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Miles, where can people find you? And is

1028
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: there a workimedia you've been enjoying?

1029
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me

1030
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: chatting sheet about the Premier League. Holy fuck Arsenals. That's

1031
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: a real weird, weird result. And now the inner dude,

1032
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: everyone hates that we're doing well. So the second it's

1033
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: like the Celtics, right, like when the second the Celtics,

1034
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: like when they were prime Celtics, and they Wow, I'm like,

1035
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: that's kind of what's happening, and it's it's it's hard,

1036
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: but you know what, I still believe. So check out

1037
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: Ain't It Footy? That's the soccer show. And then also

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Speaker 2: ninety dight Fiance Talk is happening on four to twenty

1039
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Speaker 2: day Fiance A work a media that I like. Yes,

1040
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Speaker 2: it's pretty straightforward. This one is from at d l

1041
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Speaker 2: y Be Scott at Social said, Bovino's haircut looks like

1042
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: if A Karen designed a Mrken. Yeah, I'm having that.

1043
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Speaker 4: Uh. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore

1044
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Speaker 4: O Brian, Blue Sky Jack ob the number one Instagram

1045
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore Brian. I like to tweet from

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Speaker 4: somebody Hustelani Hustla Nanni h u s t l A

1047
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Speaker 4: n A n I tweeted, sorry, I can't come. My

1048
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Speaker 4: clothes looks stupid on me.

1049
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Speaker 2: Oh oh arrive. I thought he meant sexual gratification.

1050
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 4: No, no, I just I can't come to your party

1051
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: because my clothes looks stupid on me. You can find

1052
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

1053
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 4: at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to

1054
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,

1055
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes

1056
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: is where we link off to the information that we

1057
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: talked about in today's episode. We also link off to

1058
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is

1059
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: there a song that you think that people might enjoy.

1060
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: Let's go out on something nice and easy, just something

1061
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: that feels soothing to hear. It's El Michael's Affair, which

1062
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: is a great band, but with claro on the vocals.

1063
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: The song is called Anticipate, and it just feels like,

1064
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, you can just kind of feel good listening

1065
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: to some music right now, which I'm sure we all need.

1066
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, anticipate El Michael's Affair.

1067
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: Hey, speaking of something that you can feel good about.

1068
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: We do have our two thousandth episode two thousandth coming

1069
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: up a week from today today. Yeah yeah, and we

1070
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: are asking you for your favorite memories, your predictions for

1071
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 4: the next two thousand. We will link off to that

1072
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: in the footnote or you can contribute, Yes, give us

1073
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 4: your name.

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00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: I now sit in the discord server, a lot of

1075
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: people already replying directly to me and the discord over

1076
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: which I love, which I love, But please use a

1077
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: Google form that way we can put everything together because

1078
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: we'd love to read off some of your favorite memories,

1079
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: because honestly, Jack and I are like, we're like, what

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00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: if if we counted down our favorite memories and we

1081
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: were like looking down, like.

1082
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Speaker 4: I don't remember what memories? I don't know any bus

1083
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: jog memories. Yeah, so our listeners are so funny.

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Speaker 2: So there are some fucking really good ones. Just people

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Speaker 2: reflexively fired off like as their favorite and I was

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Speaker 2: in an instant time machine. Oh my god. So I'm

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Speaker 2: again everybody who's participated. Thank you. If you're thinking about it,

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Speaker 2: please send us your favorite memory and predict your favorite

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Speaker 2: memory for the next two thousand episodes, because it'll help

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Speaker 2: your old grandpa's feel good. I hope your old grandpa

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Speaker 2: feel good.

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Speaker 4: Superprius are on a jsany I shared a picture from

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Speaker 4: the early days where we were recording with tinfoil hats on,

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Speaker 4: and I still don't That did not jog my memory

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Speaker 4: that I think it was with jackies.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've done tinfoil hats a few times,

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Speaker 2: have we? Yeah? Yeah, this is one that was really nice.

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Speaker 2: I just want to call this one. This from Cascady

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Speaker 2: in eighty three course sort of said, not a single

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Speaker 2: moment for me. But I seem to recall early on

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Speaker 2: the podcast someone commenting about how Jack and Miles seemingly

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Speaker 2: like we're good friends, and they said, yeah, we don't

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Speaker 2: really talk much outside of the podcast, and seeing them

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Speaker 2: been really sweet.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, close my heart. Yeah, we saw

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Speaker 4: them talk before or after we hit record.

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Speaker 2: No, that's it. We keep it. Look, that's how you

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Speaker 2: keep a marriage, and I keep it. Separate beds, separate.

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