1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: to another episode of Call It What It Is. Jessica kpsha, how. 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Are you feeling today? Well, it's raining in New York 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: City and so I'm feeling a bit damp. Other than that, 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Other than that, we have Jenna Johnson on today. No, 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: you know that I'm a huge Dancing with the Stars fan, 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: so I've been really looking forward to this day. We've 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: been trying to get her on since the season was 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: actually still active, and our schedules have just not aligned. 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: But now they have, and I could not be more 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: excited to have this gorgeous, talented guest. 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Be honest, are you wearing because we can't see you 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: wearing jazz shoes just in case, just. 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: So we're clear, I look down at my feet preemptively 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: when you said are. 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 3: You yeah, because you don't know, because maybe you'd throw 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: in the morn in case you need to show her 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: some moves. 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: We all know that I'm not showing anyone. It's a 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: quick audition. Can you imagine if I just decided to 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: lay it down she would love it off. She would 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: this would end. Or just one more thing, Jen, just 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: one more, just one more thing, one more move? What 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 2: about this one more thing? Miss Johnson? Oh my god. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: Okay, just just do me a favor and just take 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: a deep breath before she comes in and just like, 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: you know, be a little bit cool. 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Okay, you want me to play this cool? When have 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I ever played anything cool? 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: No? 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: But this time I'm it's a special request, and yes, 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: bring her in? 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: All right? 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Fine, Hi, We've been trying to get you on for 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: so long because I am tried and true dancing with 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: the stores fan. 39 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: She's die hard, Jenna, she's dying. 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: And you're the second. You're the You're our second guest. 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: We had Julianne first. I adore her and and and 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: we were trying to get you on when the show 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: was still actually you know, happening. 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: So thank you for being here with us. 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: We're so excited here, thanks for having How do you feel? 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: How has the wind sunk in? How do you do 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: you have? Are you feeling still like a winner? Are 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: you riding just as high? What have you done with 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: all that winningness? 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: And where is the trophy? 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? You guys do you want to see something? 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. 53 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is so embarrassing. 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: It's not but so oh my god, this is look 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: at all those mirror of. 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: Blights and this is a racket that was in my freestyle. 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: So it's just like a little. 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: Corner of am I counting five? 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: There? 60 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: No? 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Yes, oh it's five? 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: Three? Are vowels two or mine? 63 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: Well we need to add some more to yours. 64 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: I wouldn't love that. 65 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: And also, look how gorgeous you are. Guys. 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm such a nerd because I just love the show 67 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: so much, and like the rest of America when I 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: when you watch the show, you're like, oh, I'm sure 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: it's like what everyone gets like, they can't possibly be 70 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: that cute in real life, and then you see them 71 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: in real life and you're like, yeah, they are. 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, really, you're that good. 73 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: Thank you. 74 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: You went from being just you to wow, wow. 75 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Welcome to my home, Welcome to MTV Cribs. No, 76 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 4: it's been amazing. Obviously, I just you ride this cloud 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: of just happiness, exhaustion, relief. But I just felt like 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: I had such an incredible partner. So I was just 79 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: so grateful but then it's so wild because you have 80 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: all of that high and then inevitably you're like in 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: this deep depression because it's all over. You've just created 82 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: this insane bond with somebody for three months, you spend 83 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: every day together, you're like each other's teammates, you go 84 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: through very high stress situations together, and then it's just done, 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: and you're like that experience is over, that that purpose 86 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: is over. It's just it's a wild and it happens 87 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: every year, so you would think that we would know 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: how to deal with it or expect it, but every 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: year is so hard because the person that you meet 90 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: or your partner is somebody new, and so yeah, it's wild. 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: I just again, but I'm trying to stay with the 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: positives of I'm just so grateful I was able to 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: first of all, meet Joey, go through that wild ride together, 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: have incredible win in that moment. It was just a 95 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: dream come true. So I'm so beyond grateful. Obviously, you know, 96 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: there's like rumblings of the new season coming up and 97 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: all of this stuff, and so that anxiety sets in 98 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: of like, oh my goodness, I want to be competitive, 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: I want to have another incredible season, But you know, 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: I'm grateful at this time. 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: Now, I have a question before it gets announced to 102 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: us and the world, who is on Dancing with the 103 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: Stars right, Like, who's gonna be on the next season? 104 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: When do you guys find out? 105 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Because often for us, on like Grey's Anatomy, something will 106 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: be announced and we won't have even heard about it. 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: It'll be like this person's joining the cast. I'm like, 108 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: they are, Oh my god, I haven't read that up. 109 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: So how much do you know? And how long before 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: it gets announced? 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: We don't know any of that stuff. 112 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: You don't know you're fighting out with the world. 113 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: Yes, So they really try to keep it very hush hush, 114 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: and I totally get that they don't want leaks. But 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: then from like when we meet our partners to when 116 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: the whole cast is announced, we probably know for like 117 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: maybe a week before you guys know, because we always 118 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: do a reveal on Good Morning America. They really keep 119 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: everything so secretive. They want our reactions to be genuine. 120 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: They don't want things getting announced or revealed beforehand. They 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: want that Good Morning America revealed to be like here. 122 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: Is do you feel like? 123 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Because I mean again, I'm sort of a I guess 124 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm a Dancing with the Stars late bloomer like I didn't. 125 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: I didn't come to the show early seasons. I knew it, 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: and I every time I would see it, I would 127 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: really be I would be just so, I honestly, I 128 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: would be very impressed by just where you start with 129 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: people and where those people end, like the. 130 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: In terms of frust jazz, that's hope. There's none for me. 131 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: There's there might be for you, there's none for me. 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: Let's I just want to call it what it is. Okay, okay, 133 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: let's do that. These feet will not be on that phew. 134 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: You don't think you could do a foxtrot? In no 135 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: world I could be Foxy and trot. I think Jenna 136 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: could teach you to fox trot. 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 4: You'll understand what my job description is. Well, I know, 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: I know who doesn't know how to dance? How to dance? 139 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, and really you don't 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: know me. But I'm the I'm the farthest thing from negative. 141 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: So I promise you I'm not just like faux There's no. 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: Faux humility here. 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: There's real experience, uh of feeling like I can see 144 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: a dance step shown to me, I can I can see, 145 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: someone can draw it out, they. 146 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Can video it. It just doesn't translate into your body. 147 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: It's that part of my brain. It doesn't stick. Well, 148 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: that's why they're Anyways, we digress. 149 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, I was sort of a you know, I 150 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: would watch it from Afar, But then it was my 151 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: daughters that really were like they became megafans. And then 152 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I sat down long enough between doing all the things 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: that you do with when you have four kids, and 154 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I sat down long enough to watch a little bit more. 155 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: And then there was a moment, was a tipping point, 156 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: and I was in. And then I was in for 157 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: the dancing as much as I was the storytelling because 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: it's so human and so you all do such an 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: incredible job, and those editors who are there awards for that. 160 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: So those editors get awards because the way that you. 161 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: That they slice and dice and give you all that 162 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: what must be hours of footage, hours and hours, and 163 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: they can. 164 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: Is some of this live when we perform, it's all live. 165 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like they're editing on the job, which is yeah, 166 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: but they're also editing all the rehearsals. And then someone's 167 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: got an injury, and I'm telling you, I know editing, 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: they're definitely like making a lot out of it, Like 169 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the injury could be like me, it's fine, but like 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: they're going to make it seem like an emergency room 171 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: visit is imminent. 172 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: A love, That's what. 173 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: Makes me in I think that's why Dancing with the 174 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: Stars is so special is because you really get these 175 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: two worlds of where it feels sport, where they are 176 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: athletes showing up, but then it's also mixed with artistry. 177 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: So I think that's why there's like so much risk 178 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: of there could be injuries or going into this lift, 179 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: how is that going to go? You know, so there's 180 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: always this like high risk, but then you paint it 181 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: with this artistry and the intimacy and sensuality of it 182 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: all and partners all of that, and it just it's 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: so unique, like there is nothing else like that. 184 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the sensuality for just a second, shall we. 185 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna jump on a Jess. 186 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 4: Let's get into it. 187 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: She said the magic word for Jess's next question. Okay, 188 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: go on, Jess. 189 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: You all really make it seem intimate and very sensual, 190 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: and you're obvious, and you are married to a dancer, 191 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and so he's creating his chemistry with his partner. You're 192 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: creating your chemistry with your partner. Y'all are definitely selling it. 193 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm like, how are they even do they 194 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: have do they have bedrooms? Are they sleeping in the 195 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: same house? 196 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: Like? How do you go home after your husband just 197 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: watched you do that dance? 198 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: Right? 199 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. 200 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: I you know, this is one of my favorite questions 201 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: because everybody always has it, and it's I understand. I 202 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: think the best way for me to explain this is 203 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: if you were to watch a movie, would you want 204 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: to watch a scene and do you want to cry 205 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: or do you want to feel real, raw emotion? And 206 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: the answer for me is always yes. So they're doing 207 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: their job. If they came, they delivered the lines, there 208 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 4: was no emotion behind it. There wasn't any commitment to 209 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 4: the character. You wouldn't believe it. And that's why people 210 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: walk away with Oscar nominations and Oscar trophies. 211 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, but hold on, I'm interrupting. I'm only interrupting 212 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: because again I watched the show. It's not just the dancing. 213 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: That makes me feel like you guys are all in. 214 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: It's when you're listening to your feedback. It's when I 215 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: think that's the part where as a partner, I'd be like, 216 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: did you need to hold her hand? Like the whole 217 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: time that you were listening to how you guys did today. 218 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: It's so funny because those things for us don't bobster 219 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: because of course not. Since I was eight years old, 220 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: I've been partnered with a boy and he's been my 221 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: teammate and deepen on the same goal of we're going 222 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: to go out on the dance floor. We're gonna smash 223 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: and sell these routines, and we're partners. So when we 224 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: walk around the dance floor or walk around, we're holding 225 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: hands because we are a team. So and we forget 226 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: his dancers like that is such an intimate visual, that's 227 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: part of it. Yes, yeah, yeah, we're like bragging our 228 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: partner around the floor, like over it. 229 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: Must be easier to be married to someone who gets it, yeah, 230 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: because they're not in the audience. 231 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: I think they're probably not in the audience. 232 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: Right, But Joey's fiance showed up week after week after week, 233 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: and I remember being like he's not a professional, I. 234 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: Know, but but I'm imagining and you can speak to 235 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: this Jedda that this experience, because it's only three months, 236 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 3: is like in your experience is a dancer in overdrive, 237 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: and that intimacy that doesn't have to be romantic is 238 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: teammate is just like insane. It's an insane boot camp 239 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: experience that bonds you. 240 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: You're in a bubble. You are yeah, and it is 241 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: a weird social experiment and you have no time to 242 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: really like lightly get into things because like you said, 243 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: there are only three months of this, but somebody also 244 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: gets eliminated week after week after week. So honestly, like 245 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: day one, week one, I am breaking the ice and 246 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: all of the barriers with a partner of like, this 247 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: is gonna be super weird and really intense. We're gonna 248 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: be in each other's space. But as soon as we 249 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: break that like that wall, that's when we're gonna create 250 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: magic of like there's gonna be trust, there's gonna be friendship, 251 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: there's gonna be bond Like We're probably not gonna like 252 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: each other all of the time because I'm gonna be 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: yelling at you, I'm gonna be in your face, I'm 254 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: gonna like, I expect so much from you. So yeah, 255 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: there's a vulnerability. There is, I guess you could say 256 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: an intimacy in that experience because it is a very 257 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: tight knit relationship. But that's all about just having chemistry 258 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: with your partner, and I think all of us as 259 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: pros understand that that is a necessity to do well 260 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: on the show, not just because of how it looks, 261 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: but because of that trust. And yeah, in case with 262 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: your partner, you. 263 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 2: Know, no, I get I get that no one people vibe. 264 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: And when they don't, it translates whether you're in the skybox, 265 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: whether you're getting wars in the rehearsal packages. So again, 266 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: it is a very It is hard I think for 267 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: people's significant others that aren't in the industry or aren't 268 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: answers to like see duel. But for me, I always 269 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: try to make them part of it, to make them 270 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: feel like nothing's hidden. If that makes sense. Yes, yes, 271 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: I would always be like with Joey, like go show 272 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: Kelsey or videos, like we'll do rehearsal, go show her 273 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: what we learned today, show her this new trick that 274 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: we did, so it doesn't feel like something. 275 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: That's very smart of you as a partner. I have 276 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: a question that's a little spicy. 277 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: Yes, you don't have to name names, okay at all 278 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: because you can't. But have you ever had a partner 279 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: and the significant other there are some some vibe but 280 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: like you're feeling like, I'm not sure they're understanding that 281 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: this intimacy is just for the show. 282 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: Oh. I have had situations where it's been sad watching 283 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: as a partner my partner's significant other put extra stress 284 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: on them. 285 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know that causes because that gets in 286 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: your head. I'm sure that's like a lot of the 287 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: times of because yeah, it it helps them not be 288 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: so committed and they're born and they want to be 289 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: respectful to like you know, all sides. For me, I 290 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: always try to be like, listen, this is three months 291 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: and then you will never have this ever again. You'll 292 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: never have this opportunity. So for me, I'm always just like, 293 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: don't leave with any regrets of like looking back and. 294 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: Being like that was such a short amount of time 295 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: that I could have like fully committed to. And again, 296 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: I think you have to respect your spouse or your 297 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: significant other first, but you need to also explain to them, 298 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: like I will never have this opportunity again. So if 299 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: I don't commit in my Argentine Tango or if I 300 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: don't commit in my it might affect this experience getting eliminated. 301 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: But also it's just a dance. 302 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just I mean, like it's not it 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: is just a dance. It's like us going to work 304 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: and performing. 305 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: Like a love scene. At the end of the day, 306 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: we come home like that's our job for like that day. 307 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: Yes, and I think it is really really helpful that 308 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 4: my husband is on the show as well. Yeah. Yeah, 309 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: it helps even see what he's doing with his partner 310 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: and they are like so safe and sure of our 311 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: relationships that we wanted to thrive. So I think that's 312 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: also helpful. And like Valve comes in into my rehearsal 313 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: a ton and helps my partner out and feel good, 314 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: gives some pointers. 315 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: It's helpful. He's the best Jess because you feel like 316 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: val could help you with your No, no one can 317 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: help me. 318 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: Anyone can help you. It would be Valentine. 319 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: If when you guys get people announced, right, so they 320 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: announce somebody tomorrow, right, Yeah, are you or is it not? Okay? 321 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: Are you ever texting producers and be like mine or 322 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: is that just like not something you can do? 323 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: Can you never be like, here's lying? I really want 324 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: this person. 325 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: No, that would be really fun. I'm sure we could 326 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: do it, but I don't think it would have it. 327 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Do you have a dream partner? Is there someone who 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: you've been like watching something, listening to something, or thinking like, 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, it would be so amazing to be 330 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: partners with that person. 331 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: I am shocked every year with who I get and 332 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: I always just like end up having the best time. 333 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: So I really trust like our casting director. So far, 334 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: I would say I have not had a football player. 335 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's fun. 336 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: So and I think that they're just so incredible on 337 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: the show. They understand like that work ethic and the 338 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: time and effort that goes into being great. So I 339 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: think they always really do well on the show I 340 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: have so I haven't had one of those yet. Jason Kelce, 341 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: I just keep throwing his name out because I think 342 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: this would be so fun. 343 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: I saw him from across the room at upfronts the 344 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: other day. 345 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: I just think he liked the vibe where he doesn't 346 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: take things too see. 347 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: He seems very relaxed. 348 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: Yes, where I think he would be down to like 349 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: rip off his shirt. 350 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think such to God, John at you and 351 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: Jason Kelsey, Yes, this needs to happen. 352 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: I would just be down for like a really fun 353 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: person who's just down for the experience, like ye or 354 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: I'm dancing. It's not that serious at the end of 355 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: the day. Yes, Oh so I think he would have 356 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: such great energy. 357 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: Do you SIDEI because I do. 358 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: N You guys have professional dancers come and be contestants 359 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: on the show. I'm like, why, and if you're in 360 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: competition with those people, is it frustrating when you're like, 361 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: I got a football player and I'm so excited, but like, 362 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: why do you have this incredible professional answer that I'm 363 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: not competing against. I don't understand. 364 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: I've had both. I've had both. I've had somebody with 365 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: no experience and I've won with them last season with Joey, 366 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: and then I've had somebody like Jojo Siwaw, who is 367 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: a Yeah. Of course, you know, people felt some type 368 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 4: of way about that, but it's a completely different battle 369 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: With somebody like Joey. You're invested in the journey and 370 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 4: his like of all becoming a dancer with Jojo. We 371 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: had to really bring it every week of like do 372 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: the best routine possible and make magic and have moments 373 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: and all of that stuff. So there's a lot of 374 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: pressure when you have a dancer or somebody who already 375 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: has dance experience. I wouldn't say that that's the easier route. 376 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's harder because you're having to like overly prove 377 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: that they deserve to be there. I've had both. Each 378 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: journey is very very different. 379 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: But like, are you really if you're a great dancer 380 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: and your technically fantastic, you're not getting marked down in 381 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: the same way that like Joey would, right, And that's 382 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: what at the end of the day sort of that 383 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: ends up being a huge part of the competition. 384 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: But that's where the expectations really get to you, and 385 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 4: it it kind of feels unfair, like, well, I'm for them. 386 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: They've never done ballroom before. Yes, they may have like danced, 387 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 4: but ballroom and partnering is very different than just like 388 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: jazzing by yourself, So in a sense, they are learning 389 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 4: something new, so they should have that same sort of 390 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: grace when it comes to being a beginner in ballroom dance. 391 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: I don't know, because I don't know if I agree 392 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: with that, just because I feel like you can make 393 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: when dancers just carry themselves in a certain way. You 394 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: put Jess against like Nicole from the Pussy gat Adolls, 395 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 3: like whether baller is the first time she's ever got 396 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: she's going to make it look beautiful. There are certain 397 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: ways you carry yourself. There's like flexibility that you have. 398 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 4: It might be a leg up when it comes to 399 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: the dancing, but people also fall in love with the story. 400 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. 401 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: You know. 402 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I have a question from a fan perspective. Yes, when 403 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: you guys are all up there rooting, you know, cheering 404 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: each other on, I really do completely buy the camaraderie 405 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: and that everybody really is rooting for everybody else. 406 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: But I'm just going to call it what it is. 407 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: Some people are annoying up there when they're standing there 408 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: waiting and they're like trying to get in front of 409 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: each other, and like they're like me, and they're like 410 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: looking at the camera and they're like trying to like 411 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: grab that moment. 412 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: Are you saying that another couple are trying to sort 413 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: of steal the moment from somebody else or like grab 414 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: the attention. 415 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: They're true. 416 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Yes, they're definitely trying to grab the attention because they're 417 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: all on like the balcony. That's I've never been to 418 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: the ballroom, so I'm imagining it's a balcony. 419 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: All at the skybox. 420 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the box. 421 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So the question is are people as annoying as 422 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: they look? 423 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm gonna say that I am not that person, so. 424 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: I know you're not. 425 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking you where She's wondering if you 426 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: were annoyed by other people who. 427 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: I would like to know if you find them annoying. 428 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: Personalities are fun, So if people that's a great answer 429 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: to oh. 430 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: For it, I know, but your face kind of said 431 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: it looked annoying. 432 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: You know, as long as all of us are having 433 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: a good time and you know we're staying on the air, 434 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 4: do whatever. 435 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: You got to do exactly exactly. 436 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: You know what it adds to the spices dress because 437 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: those people like you watching being like they're so annoying 438 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 3: and it's getting you to talk about it, right, Like 439 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: maybe you have a love hate relationship with the skybox where. 440 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 4: They're being seen and they're getting more votes. 441 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: See, that's another reason why I shouldn't go on the 442 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: show because I would be terrible at that. 443 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: I would literally do no uh attention stealing promotion? Are 444 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: you kidding? You're a Leo. 445 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 3: Leo. She would be up there hamming away. God, I 446 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: I don't think. 447 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 4: I would, honestly though. It's also sometimes on you're so 448 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: exhausted from the week that sometimes I'm just like too tired, 449 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: and I'm like, if I'm praying in my heart that 450 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: we get through our dance, or if I've already danced, 451 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, thank goodness, and I'm just exhausted. So maybe 452 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: that's why I'm not eager to get extra screen time. 453 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and 454 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: say I think you're a class act, and that's why 455 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: you don't do it. 456 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 4: Thank you. 457 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: You don't need to do it. You got those mirror bars, 458 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 459 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Like, it's really only the people that need to do 460 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: it that I see doing it, which makes me annoyed 461 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: with them. 462 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: Who would you like for a Val as a partner? 463 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: I love when Val is inspired and excited, so I 464 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: just want him to have somebody that that gives him 465 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: good energy. For women, we are a lot more intimidated 466 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 4: when it comes to this space. Guys tend to be like, yeah, whatever, 467 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: I'll put my arm out, you know if they don't 468 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: take it patly. Yeah, But if you are a female contestant, 469 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 4: I think it's hard. It's like you're putting yourself very 470 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 4: uncomfortable situation. So always those people that have come in 471 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 4: and just been like open and excited and fall in 472 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: love with dance. He is so inspired by, I would say, 473 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: somebody like Gingersey. They were partners, and I have just 474 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: never seen him be so in love with dance. Oh yeah, 475 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: going up with her. She was just invested in the show, 476 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: in doing an amazing job, and it was just so 477 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: fun to see their relationship grow. And she's like near 478 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: and dear to our family now. 479 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 2: Oh I love that. 480 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: She was incredible. Somebody like Tamar Braxton was really fun 481 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: for him. He was partnered with Normani Cordat and they 482 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: danced superstars together. 483 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's hard to compete against. 484 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: You know. It's crazy though. For Nomani. That's when she 485 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: was still with Fifth Harmony and they had just announced 486 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 4: that they were going on their Asian leg of their tour. 487 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 4: So he was flying back and forth from Asia the 488 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: whole season with her. Sometimes they would have like two 489 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: days to rehearse. One time they rehearsed in a hotel 490 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: lobby like in Yes, but she was just incredible and 491 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: then somebody likes sochy. They just had such an epic relationship. 492 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: He loved the show, she loved the experience. They had 493 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 4: such a great bond. So yeah, anytime that he just 494 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 4: like vibes with somebody, and yeah. 495 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: It really showed. That season was incredible and it really showed. 496 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: And he does have a smile. You both do, but 497 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: he has a smile that could just light up a room. 498 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know when you see his happiness, it's like. 499 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: Ah, I would love to see you with Jason and 500 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: him with Kylie Kelsey. And so you're married couple with 501 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: married couple. 502 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: That would be interesting. Yeah, that could be cute. So 503 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: doubt all right, ABC threw that out there for you. 504 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and your hosts are also so incredible. 505 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, love them, love them. 506 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: So we did an episode last week about well it 507 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: was technically about mom guilt. 508 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: We're trying to find a new name for a Jonah 509 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: because we're. 510 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: Guilt. But you know what, it is what it is, 511 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: like that that is what we feel. 512 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to We're talking about whether or not 513 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: that is what we feel or that's what people tell 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: us to feel, right, like we should feel guilty, whereas 515 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: like what is the value exchange of being a working person? 516 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: And like how do you explain it to your kids? 517 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: Because you're not going to You're not going to do 518 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: something you know for your own benefit solely, right, it 519 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: might include your own benefit, but it's not. There's like 520 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: guilty seems like something that you would, you know, feel 521 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: after you did something that was just for yourself and 522 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: working as for your whole family. But when you are 523 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: in like a three month stint that is that sounds 524 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: as intense as the one you're describing. 525 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: Do you do you favor that Rome comes to work sometimes? 526 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Do you favor that he stays where he is and 527 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: keeps his Like I'm someone who keeps I keep my kids' 528 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: schedule constant, and then I'm the variable that comes in 529 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: and out. Yeah, I mean obviously there's times when they 530 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: come to me. But how do you work that? 531 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, it is really difficult and hard and being 532 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: a new mom and a new working mom and also 533 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: his schedules are changing in things, So I think this 534 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: last season was was interesting to navigate. I don't think 535 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: the word guilt necessarily has to have a negative connotation 536 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: to it, because I think I think that means that 537 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 4: you care. If you are feeling these things, that means 538 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: that you do care and your heart is torn into 539 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: different places. And that's definitely what I did feel this 540 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: this last season. Days that he would come to set 541 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 4: were so fun and would give me like this reset 542 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: ative and be like, oh my goodness, Okay, I'm stressed 543 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: about these two eights in my fox drop, but I 544 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: have this bubbly little boy just looking at me for everything, 545 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: and that gave me so much purpose. But at the 546 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: end of the day too, I know that I'm also 547 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: in a very stressed environment and I don't want to 548 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: put that on him. So I would like do maybe 549 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 4: every two weeks he would come to set on a 550 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: show day, you know, or if I was knew though 551 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: I was going to be having a more lighthearted day, 552 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: i'd have him come. But he's just always a breath 553 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: of fresh air. He always gives me that sense of 554 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: like grounding and purpose. And even if I would have 555 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: the longest worst rehearsal, so stressed out, I'd come home 556 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: and just nothing else mattered. And that's something that I've 557 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: loved about being a mom, Where before I would take 558 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: that stress from work and bring it home and just 559 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: like fester on it and just sit on it and 560 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: let it ruin the rest of my evening. But as 561 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: a mom, you don't have time for that, Like you 562 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: don't have opportunity to know, you need to do dinner, bedtime, bathtime, 563 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: bottle clean the house, you know. So I've loved that, 564 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 4: even though it's chaotic and sometimes I feel like I 565 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 4: don't have a second to like breathe myself, it really 566 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 4: it's really what I need. And he just, yeah, he 567 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 4: is the best I've loved being a mother. Obviously, it 568 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: has his days where I'm like, man, I missed out 569 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: on this, or I could have showed up so much 570 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: better in that regard, I was just exhausted. But I 571 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: love a challenge, and I think you always have to 572 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 4: like challenge yourself and evolve, and it's okay if you 573 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: have a rough day, like you'll show up better tomorrow. 574 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: But I think also Valas is really great about He 575 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: is just so such an incredible dad, and so I 576 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: think I'm constantly inspired by the way that he shows 577 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: up for our son and for our relationship and our marriage. 578 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: So I'm just constantly inspired by him, I think. And 579 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: that also helps navigating parenthood. 580 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that so much. 581 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: If you had this is a trippy question, but if 582 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: you had a time machine and your son was twenty 583 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: one tomorrow and he wanted to be on the next 584 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: season of Dancing with the Stars, who would you partner 585 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: him with? 586 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: We can't be you. 587 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: Oh, she comes up with such good questions. 588 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: I would say Daniella. She is an absolute force to 589 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: be reckoned with. She is just a powerhouse, and I 590 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: think she is super creative. I know that she is 591 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: a good teacher, and I think that sometimes the biggest 592 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: battle on our show is being a good teacher. You 593 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: can be an incredible dancer. Oh yeah, yeah, but you 594 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: need to know how to gameplay when ABC doesn't work. 595 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: You need to know how to come up with a 596 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: new option, and you don't need to know how to 597 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: dissect dance and teach it to somebody that has no 598 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: idea what they're doing. And she is that, So I 599 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: would I would say Daniella Oh. 600 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: I love that. I love it. Who would you partner 601 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: me with if I ever did it? Vow val Oh, 602 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: I can't. There we go I get helping me. 603 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: He is the best teach, teacher, teammate, coach. He's amazing. 604 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: I never say never, never say never, you know, I mean, 605 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, come up, we're ABC family. Like, I love that. 606 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna if I can, and this is this is 607 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: a hope, if I can. With schedules and everything else, 608 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: I am dying to get there for one of the 609 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: last She wants. 610 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: To see it. 611 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: I know I really wanted to, and it didn't work 612 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: out timing wise because I'd just been in LA and 613 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't like turn it around and bring them back 614 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: again this last time, this last season. But I'm I 615 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: and I told Julianne, I'm like, I'm gonna make it. 616 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it there. I'm going to be in 617 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: that ballroom. I really am. 618 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: It's it's a different it's so so magical seeing the sets. 619 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh, it's gorgeous, and you all do an incredible job 620 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: also on your socials, Like I love getting the peak 621 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: behind the you know, behind the curtain. Do you have 622 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: any like pre show things that you do, like charity superstitions. 623 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: Do you have like any of that kind of question? 624 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I do. I this is so weird, but I 625 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: always have to put my right shoe, my right ballroom 626 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: shoe on before my left. It's just like the thing 627 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: that I've heard the show and like even when the 628 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: dressers are doing a quick change with me, I'm like, no, 629 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: it has to be the right shoe first. So that's 630 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 4: something that's just a weird one. But for me, I 631 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: love to stay in my zone. So as much as 632 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: I love to cheer on other people and like watch, 633 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: I know that it's not going to be good for 634 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: my focus. So I kind of venture off with my 635 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: partner and I want us to like stay in the zone. 636 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: So we always do a warm up together. I'm really 637 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: big about planks. I think that they're so good to do. 638 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh's my worst nightmare. My mother can do 639 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: a five minute plank. Wow, hurt me? 640 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: That's amazing. Well, yeah, I usually try to do like 641 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: a two to three minute plank with my partner. So 642 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: we'll do that, we'll go through the dance a little bit, 643 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 4: and then as soon as we're going like back backstage, 644 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: say we're next up. I always take a second by 645 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: myself to like call my breathing, I say a prayer 646 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 4: and then positive affirmations. I read this thing that nerves 647 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: either can be negative or positive, just in whatever you 648 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: tell yourself. So instead of being like, I'm so scared, 649 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 4: I'm so nervous that we're not going to do like 650 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: you know, putting it in that, I always am like, 651 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: I am so excited. I have the excited I'm so 652 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: I know that I'm prepared, I know that I've done 653 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 4: all of that I can and I'm just going to 654 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: go dance now. So I think like the mindset that 655 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: you have yourself in also helps. 656 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: I think that what you just said is so powerful, for. 657 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same way your little guy is 658 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: too little to do this with. 659 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: But I have people that don't feel so. 660 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Little anymore, and they have started entering into worlds that 661 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: can feel like scary, like I have to do something, 662 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: I have to be something that's maybe bigger or I 663 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: haven't developed the courage for yet, And I say exactly 664 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. 665 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: Because it is it feels so true. Is that is. 666 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: That that feeling you really can choose how you program 667 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: it is you're going to program as it? Are you 668 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: going to program it as excitement or will you categorize 669 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: it as fear? And and the fear kind of makes 670 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: you go back on your heels, and the and the 671 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: and the excitement gets you on your toes. And it's like, 672 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: are you more nimble? Where are you more ready for flexibility? 673 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: Where you more ready to receive? It's in being excited, 674 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: it's not in being scared. And I think that's incredible, 675 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: incredible nerves. 676 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: I mean we should all have them. That's great. I 677 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 4: mean again, that means that you care, But it's just 678 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 4: really how you decipher, like am I going to take 679 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: this in the nervous route and doubt myself and question things? 680 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 4: And that's when you start making mistakes. I feel whenever 681 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: I'm on thinks for that always is what happens. So 682 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: I always try to put be like, oh, I'm so excited, 683 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: so scared, but very excited to go show up and 684 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 4: go do what we've been practicing. Like it's it's awesome. 685 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's kind of my little ritual. 686 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: I love that and hope for the best. 687 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, go out there. 688 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: Would you like to be a judge? One season? Instead 689 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: of an answer, Oh. 690 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 4: You know, for me, I still I would love that. 691 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 4: But I always have wanted to be a performer. So 692 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to try to drag out this day as 693 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 4: long as as long as my body can ye and 694 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 4: then then I can see myself as like a judge. 695 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 4: But for me, I just I have so many goals 696 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 4: and dreams that I would love to do still in 697 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 4: this space, I would really love to do Broadway one day. 698 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: So you're like, well, I love to like You're an 699 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: incredible actress too. 700 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: You're the whole package, so like I can see that 701 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 3: for you, like I would cast you in two seconds 702 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 3: and all of the things. 703 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 4: Thank you. But yeah, I still just feel like such 704 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 4: a performer that I don't feel that like authority of sitting. 705 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: I feel like I would have a hard time sitting. Honestly, 706 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 4: I would be like, oh, out there, I want to 707 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 4: do this. 708 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have fomo for the dance floor. 709 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: Yes, but I love giving feedback again that like teacher 710 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: inside of me. Yea, I love that. But for right now, 711 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 4: I just I would love to be a performer. 712 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 2: Well, we we all love watching you perform. 713 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: Thank you. 714 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: When do you start the new season? 715 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 4: Well, the season starts September. Usually I technically haven't been 716 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 4: picked up yet, none of us have. We usually don't 717 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 4: find out if we're back on the season until until 718 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: like end of August September. So fingers crossed. 719 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 3: That's happens with Yeah, that's the way we're all. Yeah, 720 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: yeah with teep shows. Got a wait for that pickup too, personally. 721 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's when it starts. Is it will be 722 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 4: back this fall. They just announced season thirty four, So exciting, 723 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: so crazy, thirty four seasons. 724 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: That's more than Gray's Anatomy. 725 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: Well is also special because they're celebrating twenty years on air. 726 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 4: Oh what twenty year anniversary this year? So wild? 727 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: I see you adding your third Mira ball to that ledge. 728 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: I love a little manifestation. 729 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it for you. It's already done. That's 730 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: our manifesting trick. It's already been done. It's thirty yours. 731 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 2: You already have a third one. 732 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: So we're excited to watch you win next season exactly, 733 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: and I will be there, Camilla, will you come with me? 734 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: Will be my day o? God you kidding? 735 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: Yes? 736 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: Me and the girls, so we'll bring our daughters. Yeah, 737 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: let's bring the girls. Okay, we'll be in there. 738 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 4: You should come on like a Disney night or something too. 739 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: That's also, Oh, don't say Disney. Don't say Disney twice 740 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: to this one. 741 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 2: You don't understand. Jenna, you said the imagine and Neil 742 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: Patrick Harris. 743 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen two people more excited to be at Disneyland. 744 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: I love it. 745 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: I love it. Jenna, thank you so much for joining us. 746 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: Will you come back on when the season starts and 747 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: you're deep in it and we can pick your brain 748 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: on how it's going. 749 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: Yes, it'll be so. It'll be so fun to see 750 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: who I'm partnered with and we can chat all the way. Yes. 751 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Wait, I have one more question, because I think you're 752 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: very wide. I don't ask everybody this, but I think 753 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: you have some real wisdom in there. Here's my question 754 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: for you. What would you if you could talk about 755 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: time machine, go back in time? What would you tell 756 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: your seventeen year old self? What had you not learned 757 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: yet that you that you value so breaking now? 758 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: I think my worth and not having this having this 759 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 4: anxiety of having to be somebody else, to be somewhere 760 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 4: or to make it somewhere. And I actually shortly after 761 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 4: I was seventeen joined the show, and when I did, 762 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 4: I was just constantly trying to be somebody else because 763 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: I looked up to them. They were all pros. I 764 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: was on troop. So yeah, I think that until I 765 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 4: learned to really value all that I had to give, 766 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: that's when I started to really make a difference and 767 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 4: make an impact, and that's when I really started to shine. 768 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 4: So I think that if I were to go back 769 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 4: to my seventeen year old self, I would just tell 770 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: her to trust herself and to not forget why she's special. 771 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that you just said, like, not forget 772 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: that she's special, because I think that as women, we 773 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: do this thing where we sort of like we can 774 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: say that we're great, but like then we'd sort of, like, 775 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: you know, want to underplay it. 776 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure that we have, I think 777 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: as women obviously and in the society right now. Like 778 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 4: for me, comparison is the thief of joy. 779 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: It just is are you in my head? 780 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: I've always that's been one of my favorite quotes, and 781 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 4: I just I really think it's so true. And when 782 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 4: we live in a world where we're just constantly scrolling 783 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 4: and seeing how gorgeous and how amazing and how yeah 784 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 4: you neque these other women are instead of being like oh, 785 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 4: tearing ourselves down because of it, we can celebrate that 786 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: first of all, others accomplishments, others beauty, but we cannot 787 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 4: forget in the gate why we are so magnificent and 788 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: special and beautiful that we have to offer so. 789 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a way to end. I love that. Oh, 790 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: I love it so much. 791 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: I know and I think that it's also it's like 792 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: it's the acknowledging of the human feeling, like the neurobiological 793 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: need to envy or cove it or be jealous or 794 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: think like I want that other thing. Like that's normal. 795 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: You're not doing anything wrong. You're not a bad person 796 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: for that while you're scrolling. It's then what you do 797 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: with the thought, like do you then make it a 798 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: negative have it? Let it have a negative impact on yourself, 799 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: like I'm not enough. Do you let it make a 800 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: negative impact on someone else by tearing them down? Or 801 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: do you just see the thought, see the judgment, see 802 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: the whatever it is that monkey mind's in your head 803 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 1: and then go like yeah, okay, thank you for your service, 804 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: and like no, thank you I think that person's gorgeous 805 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: or right, that she so hard or she has that 806 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: natural shine. I don't know, but it's like it's it's 807 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: really human to have all those feelings. And I think 808 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: that you know what you just said is true. 809 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: It's what you do with. 810 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 4: Them, completely agree. 811 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on, so much for 812 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: coming and call it what. 813 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 4: It is. So nice to meet you. 814 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 2: It will be the first of many, hopefully. 815 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so come back and talk to us when 816 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: the season starts and when you're on your journey to 817 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: winning again. 818 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I love it. 819 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: We'll see you in the audience to go all right, 820 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: thank you bye. I feel like I just want to 821 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: be friends with her. 822 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 3: I know I need you guys to never meet because 823 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: I think you could be best friends. 824 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: And that's not going to work for me. I'm not 825 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: down with a third. But I will sit in the 826 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: audience with you. 827 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: You said Disney Night, and I'm like, already there, my 828 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: Mickey mouse or are you kidding? 829 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 830 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you make you where the ears all wear the hands. 831 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: We'll sit in the front row. I'm going to be there. 832 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: You're going to be there, and it's going to be 833 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: magical and special. I can't wait until they announced the contestants. 834 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: And we will be sitting front row for ABC's thirty 835 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: fourth season of Dancing with the Stars and they will 836 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: be celebrating their twentieth year on air. 837 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: God, I hope it's Jason Kelce. When she's said that name, 838 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my, she said football star. 839 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: Well she's a football star, but could have been anyone. 840 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 3: But when she said Jason Kelce, I was like beyond yeah. 841 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: And I was I tried to say, but I didn't 842 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: get it out. I was at the ABC upfronts and 843 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: I actually saw Bruno in person and Alfonso and I 844 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: had to like not nerd out. 845 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: And go up to them. 846 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: And then I saw Jason Kelce from across the room 847 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: because it was also ESPN we were doing their upfronts 848 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: and he was there. 849 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: There were so many athletes. How tall is he? 850 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, because he was he was far across 851 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: the room. I couldn't tell from that perspective. 852 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 2: But make a bee line else b line. 853 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: No, it was wonderful to be with her, and I'm 854 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: super excited for the new the new season. 855 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's super talented. 856 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: I I really did love her being like I'm special 857 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: because I think that as women, we learned to like 858 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 3: not say those adjectives about ourselves and describe ourselves that way. 859 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes you are, Yeah, you should be 860 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: saying that about yourself. 861 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: I know the whole thing. They're just like family over yea. 862 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, well let's call it the end of 863 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: the episode.