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Speaker 1: predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are the

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Speaker 1: you stand with on X. Okay, welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Dan a duke. Yes you uh a.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna jump right to the punchline, get in there,

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Speaker 1: and then we gotta cover smart stuff. Okay, a man,

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Speaker 1: a Jewish man who's who has a Muslim hunting partner. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that is uh, that is correct. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: and the show, but we'll return to that. Because you're

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Speaker 1: you're super familiar. You're a comedian, you do stand up

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Speaker 1: and do television, you do podcasts, so you're like, really,

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Speaker 1: you're like very good at entertainment. I guess, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I do. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: A a lot of famous people all over the place.

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Speaker 1: I've never been a star struck as I am in Bozeman,

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Speaker 1: wild Man telling shows you how good of an entertaining

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Speaker 1: you are because you know how to play the No, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, yeah, over you honest are like you

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Speaker 1: guys are like the j Lo and Shakira of the

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Speaker 1: hunting world. Dude, I've been exercising so much I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: wind up looking like about look like j Lo. Manum

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Speaker 1: telling you. I've been since since your show was on

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Speaker 1: I've been I've been watching man. Huge fan, huge fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to be here. What I want to

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Speaker 1: do is we're gonna talk about a couple of things

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Speaker 1: and just so you can help us, because being such

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Speaker 1: us if what we're talking about entertaining or not. Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: first thing, Yanna, it's like you're back, but I can't

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Speaker 1: really you're not like the co host anymore, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, that didn't take long because well,

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Speaker 1: how many did you miss eat out? To ask Karan,

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Speaker 1: he's out like a sign. He's out an assignment, I

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Speaker 1: Now you're all you're all also in Nashville for a one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of like a you're like a regular, like

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Speaker 1: big insult that he gave me. Yanna saw me make

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Speaker 1: a note about him insulting me. We're at a wedding

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Speaker 1: about eight. Uh. She thought I was kidding, so that

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Speaker 1: By nine pm. Yeah, she told me. She told me.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a movie, it was a documentary about No, No,

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Speaker 1: watched um the Lighthouse? No, I haven't. That's a back

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Speaker 1: my new favorite word is in it um mirror folk

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Speaker 1: a Mermaid's purse. Yeah, because we're talking about whether Mermaid

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Speaker 1: Guys like to try it. The final thing on a

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Speaker 1: What are his have been his findings about rehabilitating a

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Speaker 1: And she makes a little concoction of um, what she

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Speaker 1: It takes her about three weeks to get a Transla

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Speaker 1: something missing here, though, whisper How does she rid the

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Speaker 1: was for people for for Jews from Iran? Would it

420
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: have been like should we go to Israel or the US? Well,

421
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: was that like a toss up? That was absolutely the

422
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: toss up. And they actually went to Israel first, and

423
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: then they decided. I think my mom told me they

424
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: went to like uh, it was like a circumcision of

425
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: like one of their friends kids and like and like

426
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: someone like raised the baby and was like this will

427
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: be the next great general of our country. And my

428
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: mom was like this ship for my kids. I'm going

429
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: along island she wanted to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know,

430
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: we were in Sparta and we were all like Hellenic.

431
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: She was like, get that, let's go back to the arts,

432
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: which is fun. And it's another thing. It's interesting though

433
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: because in America, Jews in general, I feel like, are

434
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: very uh anti gun Karen, would you jump on this

435
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: with me, even though you told me your dad was

436
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: like a closet gun guy. Yeah, um, yeah, but you

437
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: don't see, you know, I feel like it's not very

438
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: just living amongst my friends in New York or l A.

439
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: And like the ones that find out that I have

440
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: a gun, they lose their fucking minds. Um. Which is

441
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: interesting because in Israel, I think there's more gun ownership

442
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: than like any other country. Yeah, I would think that.

443
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't. I shouldn't

444
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: even speculate, but I could imagine there's more of a

445
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: in Israel. There's more of a you know, more of

446
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: a culture of self defense. Absolutely absolutely, um, but yeah,

447
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean we I feel like the Jews lost that

448
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: when they came to America. So anyway, I grew up

449
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: in that this. I've never seen a gun before, never

450
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: thought about having a gun before. And then I basically

451
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: I went to college and I became friends with this

452
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: guy Mohanned al Humadi. Hey mo um, who is the

453
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: rocky Muslim guy? Where'd you go to college? Johns Hopkins? Okay,

454
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 1: where's that? It's in Baltimore, Baltimore. Um, oh dude, it's

455
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: a big medical school, it is. I was pre mad doctor. Yeah.

456
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, so me and me, and I was

457
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: just gonna say by it, he was a hunter. He

458
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: was a hunter. He grew up and he grew up

459
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: in upstate New York and only his parents immigrated from

460
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: Iraq after like the Irani Rock War, so literally a

461
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: war between my country and his country. He and his

462
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: family emigrated. She was just primed. Seriously, you couldn't have

463
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: designed two greater enemies like Shakespearean and uh so we

464
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: uh we became buds and uh it's funny we had

465
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of common, but I think

466
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: it's college. So like it was like, yeah, yeah, do

467
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you smoke weed? I spoke let's be friends. So differences

468
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: behind um. But he told me he was a hunter

469
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's fucking crazy. Why do you

470
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: do that? There's supermarkets and uh. He was just telling

471
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: me that he did, and I still was not There

472
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: was no bone in my body that was like, I

473
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: want to try this, but I want to talk about

474
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: your body for a second. What was his disposure was

475
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: it was his parents. So his dad was a surgeon

476
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: and he got a residency. You know, when you came

477
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: from overseas to to become a doctor in America, you

478
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: go to whatever city takes you. And he got a

479
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: residency in Olean, New York. Do you guys are familiar

480
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: with Olean, New York. It's about an hour and a

481
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: half south of Buffalo, and it's it's like it's a

482
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: it's hunting country. That's not far from where I grew up,

483
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: that's right near the Pennsylvania Absolutely. Absolutely. The first thing

484
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: you said today, Brodie Brodi, thanks for joining us. Yeah, well,

485
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to getting that word. I haven't

486
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: found that to be true. I don't think it's going

487
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: to experience. I'll ask you once in a while what

488
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: you think about about what we just said, Brodie's overwhelmed

489
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: right now because we're working on a on a book

490
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: project and Brodie's uh yeah, just moved in Montana and

491
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: he decided to move a couple of states and Brody's

492
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: moving right, No, So carry on. Oh, by the way,

493
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: I just finished your book in the plane over Yeah,

494
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: which one, the Mediator book? Fantastic, fantastic. Anyone who's listening.

495
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: You gotta get your hands on that book anyway, your

496
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: body Dr moh old Man lands and Olan, and you know,

497
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: it's very hard to live there and not pick up

498
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: hunting um that. But man, they must have thought that,

499
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: like they must have been to him, the local hunting guys. Yeah,

500
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm super must have been, dude, come again now, Yeah,

501
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: making some assumptions about their character. He is, and he's

502
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: correct about absolutely correct. I'm not saying they wouldn't welcome him.

503
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: I just think there would have been pause. But from

504
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: where Okay. Yeah, here's the interesting thing though. As much

505
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: as they probably were like what the funk is this

506
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: Iraqi Muslim guy doing in our town, that Iraqi Muslim

507
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: guy was one of a few urgins in the town,

508
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: so they had no choice, Like he was helping all

509
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: their grandmothers and grandfathers and this and that he was

510
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: so as a result, I mean his family, which is

511
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: like I think he mostly lives there. We'll get to

512
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: that in a minute. But they became these kind of

513
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: ambassadors for Islam in this in this little town, which

514
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: is probably effective. Absolutely. I mean they you know, they

515
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: they I think they built or they donated to the

516
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: to the what's it called the y m c A.

517
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: They're like they it's like the doctor Adel al Humadi

518
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: m C. It's like a real mind fuck. But um,

519
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: they became they became hunters, and they got really and

520
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: he got really into it. So Moe grew up and

521
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: was a hunter and played ice hockey and all the

522
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, all the things that you do over there.

523
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Was he I don't mean to turn this into you

524
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: know what do they have mo out? Sometimes? Was was

525
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: he into um sort of like the history and the

526
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: culture of American hunting where he just he just liked

527
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: to go out. I mean, was he sort of like

528
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: a student of it. I think, well he's become one,

529
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: for sure, He's become one for sure. He did he

530
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: fish too, I mean green Lakes right there, Like I

531
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: don't think you know, he wasn't he wasn't a fisherman.

532
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: It was it was dear all deer all. Yeah. Yeah,

533
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: they had they had a little his dad bought land

534
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: in Cuba Lake, which is like right around there. And

535
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: it's like, so he's they've got like a little a

536
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: little mountain, a little hill that we go to every

537
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: year there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Okay, so you

538
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: meet him. So I meet him, and I find it

539
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: and he's a hunter. We become we become close friends.

540
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: But again, keep the hunting away from me. He's like

541
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: showing me these pictures. I want to vomit, and then

542
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: you know that that's naught, that is naughty staff and

543
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: then we uh, you know. I moved to New York

544
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: to do comedy and I get into food. I become

545
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: the I just really started loving the the food world

546
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: in New York City, and I became a big food nerd.

547
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: And and and I read this book The Omnivore's Dilemma,

548
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, this book, Michael Polo, And he had a

549
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: whole chapter about like I think he was the first

550
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: person who brought up he or you was the first

551
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: person who brought up like, hey, you got to start

552
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: thinking about this animal's life if you're gonna eat it.

553
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I never because he goes

554
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: on hunts pigs in California the exactly and he gets

555
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: disgusted by it and all that. But he's like, I

556
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: had to do it. And so I had this real

557
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: ethical dilemma of like, shit, I think I need to

558
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: kill an animal. So I called Moe and I was like,

559
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: I think I want to kill an animal. And he

560
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: was like, I've been waiting for this phone call, an

561
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: excuse to be alone with the jew and a gun.

562
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm just kidding. So at this point, he was

563
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: in med school in Long Island and he was following

564
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: in his father's book following his becoming a surgeon. And

565
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: he was like, let's go goose hunting. You'll kill a goose.

566
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, cool, Yeah, I don't

567
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: want to kill a deer, and you know, go for

568
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: a smaller animal. So he's got the fucking you know,

569
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: he's got the canoe and he's got all the gear

570
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: and everything, and we're on Long Island and I know,

571
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever done an episode in Long Island.

572
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Long Island Hunting I'll tell you why not because not

573
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: because we like haven't. Yeah, but I just haven't. I've

574
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: looked into a couple of It's a weird thing. I

575
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: should I should say not because we have it, not

576
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: because we you know, decided not to. Well, it's just

577
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: we just have it. I'll tell you. It's a weird

578
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: thing that I understand. I understand. It is a strange

579
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: thing though, because you so we go out in this

580
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: canoe to get to the sandbar where you're allowed to hunt. Okay,

581
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: I need a little more. Okay, you're we are in uh,

582
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: we're in the north shore of Long Island, Okay, Port Jefferson,

583
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: because like a waterfowl refuge or just just normal I don't.

584
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I knew that we were allowed

585
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: to hunt there, and that's where we needed to get out,

586
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know all the all the I'm not

587
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: in all the right hunting terms and stuff. You can

588
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: now it's not like some dudes. You're not You're you're out.

589
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying you're out, or anybody could go hunting. Yes, yes, yes,

590
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, but you've gotta like take your boat and

591
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: go past all these homes to get to this area,

592
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: like there's you know, you're you're you're going past these

593
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: homes and this is where they're not friendly to hunters, okay,

594
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: And they suddenly see like a canoe going by and

595
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, a Jew and a Muslim and Camma with

596
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: sucking guns and they're like, so we got we got

597
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: the fish. And wildlife was called on us all the

598
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: time constantly, and we'd have to show them and it

599
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: was always weird because you know, we're showing them our

600
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: I d s and his is like and mine is

601
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: like Dan like these weird names. They're like, what are

602
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: you boys doing? Not here? So anyway we go, we

603
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: set up these blinds and everybody starts quizzing you. He's like, oh,

604
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: so you're hunting. We'll tell me a little bit about that.

605
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: You just like fail the test absolutely, dude. I don't

606
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: even know. By the way, I had never shot. I

607
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: don't know. I know it's the one that's the one

608
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: that flies. I hadn't shot a gun, like, which was

609
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: dumb on his part. I think to make my first

610
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: shot be an animal, right, I don't know. So we

611
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: get out there and uh, he sets everything up and

612
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, just relax, it's gonna be fine.

613
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: This and that and these geese, you know, a couple

614
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: couple of geese come in, which, by the way, this

615
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: is my decoy. Yeah, we had decoys out. I have

616
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: a bone to pick with duck hunting and goose hunting. Oh,

617
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hurt my feelings. Go ahead. I mean,

618
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I love it, but I'm not gonna be Okay, here's

619
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: my thing. Okay, turkey hunting, I understand. Here's I ethically

620
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: and more into that, because it's like you're luring in

621
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: like a horny dude, some horny dude who's like yeah,

622
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: it's like some alpha horny guy, and you're doing the

623
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: turkey call thing, which like translated would be like oh,

624
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Mr Terry. And then you know, Taylor, the frat boy

625
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: Turkey is like sauntering in like boom happy Thanksgiving, right

626
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: he deserves like he's like he's shallow. Yeah, alpha shall

627
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: like to bravado for his own good. I'm feeling it.

628
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: But then I never knew why I liked hunting turkey

629
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: so much. But I think it's just this like form

630
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: of justice that I that I exact upon cocky mail

631
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: turkeys exactly it's like all the bullies that used to

632
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: get the girls in front of me, Like yeah, kind

633
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: of people who would come and try to take my

634
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: daughter out school exactly. Um. But then like I feel

635
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: like duck hunting is like the opposite because like they're

636
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: just hungry and you're you're going for the wayward like

637
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: loser ducks who don't have a crew, and they see

638
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: these ducks down there and the call the turn of

639
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: the duck call or whatever is translated. It's like, hey,

640
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: come here, dude, We've got PlayStation. It's funny. Here, come

641
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: hang out. And then you're killing like this nerdy like

642
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: you're killing the middle school version of me basically. So anyway,

643
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: the goose comes and that that's the bone to make.

644
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: Anyway goose comes and I get up, I shoot and

645
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: and there was like three of them in a row

646
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: and one of them goes down and can I please Yeah?

647
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: During like during all the set up, Yeah, are you

648
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: getting the feeling from your body? Are you? Like, Man,

649
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: this guy has this dialed and he's like it's going

650
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: to be good. Here's the thing. Were you guys just

651
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: like Wow, here comes the goose. You know, I'm trying

652
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: to get like said, you know what, I mean, you

653
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: know what the expectations. I'm gonna tell you it's a

654
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: little bit of both, because I don't think he'd ever

655
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: done it either. But he had all he's one of

656
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: those gear guys, like he's got all the gear. He's

657
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: very organized, and he's also very like annoyingly like gun

658
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: safety guy, which is good. I don't know that that's no.

659
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: I realized it was good, but I hate it in

660
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: the beginning. Now I'm like that with people that I

661
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: go hunting with. But like, he was very like, dude,

662
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: don't make sure, just do not, like he doesn't want

663
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: to be shot, I know, what a weirdo. And but

664
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: he's like very like, you know, he's very by the

665
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: book and like that, and we have it all out.

666
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think he expected them to actually come in,

667
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, and they come in and we get pretty

668
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: freaking excited. I mean, I you know, my I get

669
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: pretty excited. You're not thinking death at this point. You're

670
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: thinking you know, it's like your little reptile brain kicks

671
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: in and you're like, oh, this is gonna be awesome.

672
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: So you take your three shots. I take my three

673
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: shots and the guy goes down. Uh, And I for

674
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: some reason thought you shoot them and they die in

675
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: the air, and that's it. Like I didn't expect. You know,

676
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you watch the you know you watch Steve Ronnella, and

677
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: that's how he does it. But I know, I think

678
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: there's the thing people expect a binary dude. I expected that,

679
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: just like there's like a miss or death. The first

680
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: time I took my wife scroll hunting, she wasn't. She

681
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: had thought, I'll miss or it will die instantaneously, and

682
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: didn't think about the middle ground. There was a male ground.

683
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: So I knew that I had shot him in in

684
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: the wing and in the foot. I think, okay, because

685
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: his the wing looked like a fucking open door of

686
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: a DeLorean. And and then he couldn't swim in a

687
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: straight line, so I figured one of his feet was

688
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: and I like almost vomited, it was so viscerally it was.

689
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: It was awful. So then I shot him again and

690
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: his you know, his neck went down, his head went down.

691
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: And then we take the canoe out to it. We

692
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: didn't have a dog or anything, and I pick up

693
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: this the goose neck, and the goose neck is like

694
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: pulsating in my hand. Didn't then have you grabbed him

695
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: by the neck. When he grabbed him by the neck,

696
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: they did then have I couldn't do it, man. I

697
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, dude, it's still live. It's

698
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: still alive. And then he took it and like pretty

699
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: ma internet, like he swung it like there was nothing.

700
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it was so awful. And you know,

701
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: then I was like, you know, okay, I get to

702
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: do this thing where you felt guilt. I felt disgusted.

703
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: I felt discussed with yourself. I felt discussed with myself.

704
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: I also was like, you know, it was one of

705
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: those things where you ever when you go hunting with

706
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: a hunter and to them, like he started like he

707
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: was so excited. He was like you did it, man,

708
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: good for you. And I'm just like I was not

709
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: in that headstand, man. I was not in that head

710
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: space at all. I was like, I want to like

711
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: cry in the corner of the were maybe four hours

712
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: away from that. Yeah, honestly, not even dude. I this

713
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: day I went, I I so we we brought it

714
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: in and I butchered it. First of all, I wanted

715
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: to try the liver because I was like, fog raw,

716
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like far gray. It was not like

717
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: because I guess they're you know, they're not force fed.

718
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: And then I couldn't this is this is gonna sound awful,

719
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: but you know, the smell of the meat was so

720
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: like I I couldn't eat it. It was the smell

721
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: the guts are the smell of the meat. The meat. Man.

722
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I think it was just I had this whole visceral

723
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: thing going on where everything was just associated. Yeah, it

724
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: was this. Everything reminded me of the experience and it

725
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: just like made me so disgusted that I just couldn't

726
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: do it. And then I felt guilty about how I

727
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: couldn't eat the food. I mean, it was a real awful,

728
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: awful experience. What happened to it? Honestly, I put, well,

729
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: I like when you try to cook at how I

730
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: tried to Well. I brought it to New York City.

731
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: I was living in the city, and I had it

732
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: in the freezer for a long time, and I just

733
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: had that I had the breast. He just breasted them

734
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: out um, and I just I eventually I was like,

735
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: I don't think I can do this. And I even

736
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: just smell, I'm not like cooking it just man, I

737
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: couldn't even. I know, I know it sounds like I

738
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: sound like a little wiss And don't worry, I've eaten.

739
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: I've eaten the food since then. But I like, I

740
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: felt guilty, I felt gross, and I just like I

741
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: put I threw them into the I threw them into

742
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: the Hudson. Yeah. I was like, I can't do it.

743
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully someone some fish will or something. I I it was,

744
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. It was up, well, how

745
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: did you not? Why would that have not been the

746
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: last time you went out? Like? How did you recover

747
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: from that enough to go try again? It was mine

748
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: over Matt. I think that Philosophically, I still was like,

749
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: this is it has to be done. I have to

750
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: be able to do this honestly, and I and uh.

751
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: And then the next time we went out, it was

752
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: we went hunting for pheasants and I got a pheasant

753
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: and where'd you guys go? Then we went in Long

754
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: Island again and got the fucking thing? We got called

755
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: on seriously, did you can make friends with the game wardens?

756
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: They hated like you guys again? Um, But at that

757
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: point I was like, so this, so I get a pheasant,

758
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: I killed a pheasant and then Mo takes it again.

759
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: It all excited and broly, I'm a little less on

760
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: the wing. Yeah, this time I got to get shot. Yeah,

761
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: thank god. I was like, please, I can't deal with

762
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: do Lorian wing again. Knocked out of the sky. Um.

763
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: And then Mos like, good job. He takes it and

764
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: like just puts it in my in my vest the

765
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: game pouch, and you know, the thing is still in

766
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: the throes of in his death throes. It's still like

767
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: twitching a little bit and having that little twitch on

768
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: my back. Oh man, it was. It was intense. Oh

769
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: I hated it so much. But anyway, does everything seemed

770
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: to twitch pulic? I can't Anyway. I was like, okay,

771
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna eat this guy and give him

772
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: a good life. And I made a I made a

773
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: pheasant ragou um. I took a recipe from the Babbo Cookbook,

774
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: which is a great cookbook. I made a peasant ragout.

775
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: I made yoki from scratch, and dude, it was unbelievable.

776
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, now we're talking. So you

777
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: didn't have the same reaction to the meat, Like it

778
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: just didn't happen. It didn't happen. Do you think it

779
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: was because it's more like a chicken. I think it's

780
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: because it died quick. No, I think I think it

781
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: was because it died quick. I think it was because

782
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't my first time. You know, it's like,

783
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: bat let's bring it back to sex. Your first time,

784
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: it's like not, it's not the most memorable experience, and

785
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: then it gets better and better. Babo. That's Battali, that

786
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: is battality. You know. I was surprised to see that

787
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: you you worked for a time, You did something or

788
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: another at the Spot of Pig. Yeah, just close. I

789
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: was an intern at the Spot of Pig. Yeah, for

790
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: for the for a whole summer. Um, yeah, I did it.

791
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Just closed, Babo. And I mean, do you know battalic

792
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: because he lives in Michigan now, doesn't he He has

793
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: a place of traver. He's like he's quarantined himself to Michigan.

794
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Never met him, but we used to. You know, I've

795
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: been in Spotted Pig for a while and I used

796
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: to hang out with April Bloomfield. I love her. She's great. Yeah,

797
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: it's a bummer, man. It was such it was so depressing,

798
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean they had a it's tough

799
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: to bounce back from from that stuff. Um, but yeah,

800
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: may y goo. I made a ragou, a pheasant ragu

801
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: and it was awesome. And then eventually I thought, I was,

802
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, ready for deer and that is a different

803
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: experience too. Man Long Island now Long Island, No, yeah, long,

804
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: But we had a photographer that hunted deer on Long Island. Yeah. Yeah,

805
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: there's deer in Suffolk County. Um, but no, this was

806
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: up in Mohan Ed's land in Cuba Lake. So Mo

807
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: ended up becoming a surgeon in the same hospital as

808
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: Dad was, and he lives up there now in that

809
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: same in only in New York. So uh. I went

810
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: up to him and you know, first time, I remember

811
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: in your book you talked about the first time you

812
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: missed a deer, which my story was like it was,

813
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: I was, you know, in the tree stand and I

814
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: finally see this. I'm so excited and you know, I

815
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: finally see this buck. And I'm excited to like prove

816
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: myself to like my buddy and his buddies. His buddies

817
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: are like it's like me Mo, and like his state

818
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: Trooper buddy and the State Trooper buddies buddy. It's like

819
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: this the ragtag group. And I see this big buck

820
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: and he was priming me for just take a doe

821
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: to day and I'm like, oh my god, I can

822
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: do this, and I like aim and I can't see

823
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: the guy. I'm like, what the fun was your hand

824
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: when your hand open like that? Why is my hand open?

825
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: At least do like a little trigger thing. No, I

826
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: have it off the trigger until until I'm ready to

827
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: go hunter safety man. I was just not a convincing

828
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: you know. I got the gun ready to go and uh,

829
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I like three times the guys like just kind of

830
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: sauntering off, and eventually I realized that I could find

831
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: the scope. I forgot to take the fucking cover off

832
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: of the scope and he just got away. Um. But

833
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: then the second time I went out, which is the

834
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: year after I that was my season. That was that opportunity. Yeah.

835
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: And then I went back the next year and went

836
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: out with with shotgun, you know, the slug, and I

837
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: saw a little guy come through and my I mean,

838
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: your heart just beats like insand it still does. I

839
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: mean I've killed like probably sixty or not still yeah. Um,

840
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, and then I shot him. He jumped and

841
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: then you know, ran a little ways and then we

842
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: went and got him, and dude, that was a fucking

843
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I like started crying and ship and and again MO

844
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: was like smile, I'm like, give me a moment. Um. Yeah,

845
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: but then I went to town. Man I started making

846
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: so much food, like amazing, de Yeah, so how how

847
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: are you handling the um? You're getting your process up

848
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: where you are just bring a package meat back to

849
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: your an apartment. Yeah. I got a quick question before

850
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: we get to um cooking dear meat. But did you

851
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: find it odd because you started hunting as an adult,

852
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: So did you find it odd that there was such

853
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: emotion and like the excitement like the buck fever you know,

854
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: as you probably know what you know I did because

855
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: he he was explaining buck fever to me and I'm like, okay, yeah,

856
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good in high stress situations. I'll be okay,

857
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: but my hands were shaking, Dude. I it was very

858
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: very hard to concentrate. It's really weird. Um, and you

859
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: so you're good in high stress situations? Me like performing, Yeah,

860
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm good at performing, or like I think it'd be

861
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: good at like like if I get into a car

862
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: accident or something like, I'm pretty relaxed. I'm not like,

863
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't get frantic, you know what I mean. But

864
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: I got pretty fucking frantic when I saw this guy. Um,

865
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of things. My biggest fear was like, again,

866
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to enter this guy and then I

867
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: have to like watch him, you know, you know, or

868
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: like I can't I don't find it. There was one

869
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: time when I shot a deer and he and he

870
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: went off into the woods and we couldn't find him

871
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes, and it was it was twenty

872
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: minutes after we started coming down. No, I don't, well,

873
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: the thing is this twenty minutes And I freaked the

874
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: funk out because the other ones that I had gotten

875
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: were like, you know, they didn't go very far. Pretty

876
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: good shot, Steve, Yeah, I say, there's it can get

877
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: a lot worse than twenty minutes. I know, I know. No,

878
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty good shot, but it was and it

879
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: was close, he was close, but he just went into

880
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of thick brush. And that's long enough for

881
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: you to think the worst dude, I was fucking I

882
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: was not in a good place. And again it's like

883
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: that wasn't It's that's an It's an interesting thing because

884
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's like if it's a little bit

885
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: of it is, Yes, obviously you don't want this this

886
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: guy to be in pain, but also I wonder if

887
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit of your cave madness of like,

888
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just lost that on all this food. Um.

889
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't know that it Yeah,

890
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: the cave madness. I think there's a definite thing is

891
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: that you wanted it, like you wanted it bad enough

892
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: to try to kill it and then it gets away.

893
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: Besides the oh, man, I'm causing suffering to something, there's

894
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: definitely the but I want it, Yeah, there is. It

895
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: was mine, Yeah, I supposed to be mine. I want

896
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: in my hand now the thing I thought I had

897
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: and I don't have it. And that's a part of it.

898
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: But the suffering part, man, that that's why I'm actually

899
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: it's again in your book. I think it was one

900
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: of your dad's buddies who was like anti uh um,

901
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: like using a bow. Eugene. Yeah, I I I sort

902
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: of feel I feel the same way, like either with

903
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: a bow or like a muzzleloader, like anything that makes

904
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: it a little harder for us, unless you you should,

905
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: you should have to take a test that shows that

906
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: you're extremely proficient in those instruments. In some states you do,

907
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: do you. I can't think of any state that has

908
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: a firearm proficiency test archery archery proficiency tests in the Mania.

909
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, you get people all riled up the many

910
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: you say that I know you that you should regulate something. No, no,

911
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: not that, And I was just say the minute you

912
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: get into like well the animals, most software more with archery,

913
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, there's it's kind of thing where anyone sort

914
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: of driving a point is going to find some study

915
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: that reinforces their perspective about what's painful, what's not painful,

916
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: what's fast, what's not fast? You mean, I also just

917
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: think that, well, look, just accuracy wise, a Leopold's scope

918
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: is gonna probably get you to the point you want

919
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: to get, you know, at at the same distance then

920
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, just looking through your bow. Is that a

921
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: simple way to Is that an awful way? Well? Obviously, um, yeah, man,

922
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: if you randomly selected ten Americans, yeah, and they had

923
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: to kill deer and your goal was to have these

924
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: randomly selected individuals kill these deer quickly. The thing to

925
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: do would be to give them a scoped rifle, right,

926
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: But just there's it's there's a lot less you need

927
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: to know. Yeah, to perform at like a proficient level

928
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: at short distance. Yeah. Absolutely. I've seen people shoot a

929
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: firearm only five or six times in their life and

930
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: then successfully kill a deer at close distance. You're not

931
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: going to get that, Yeah, absolutely. You can get it

932
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: with a cross bowl with a little bit harder, but yeah,

933
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: you're just not gonna get it with the bowl. Yeah.

934
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: There's so much more to learn and so many more

935
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: things that can go wrong if you can. More power

936
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: to you, But I just think that the you should

937
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: respect that you know, the skill level that you need

938
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: to have for that thing, because man, it must suck

939
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: to be a deer that just gets winged by a

940
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, in the leg and then he's fucked for

941
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: the whole. Yeah, it would seem so um Yeah. But

942
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: then so it's funny because then I started really getting

943
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: into hunting, and uh started looking for content on hunting,

944
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: which is kind of when I discovered you, because all

945
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: the content that search look like for you, I'll tell

946
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: you would It looked like I would go on YouTube

947
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: and I would type in hunting videos or whatever, and

948
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: it was all really had it narrowed down, Look, dude,

949
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: it was it was all just like these guys would

950
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: just put up videos with like death metal in the background,

951
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: like shooting a deer, and then they'd show it again

952
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: and like slow motion like the head exploding, and I'm like, funk, man,

953
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: this is why isn't there? And then and then and

954
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: then here will come along dude, you'r And then I

955
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: started I was like, oh, this is like a thoughtful

956
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: dude who's smart, who was talking about hunting in the

957
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: in the way that that this is. This is the

958
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: blue collar bourdain right here. And I was so into it. Man.

959
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's still is so into it, but it

960
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of it gave me. It was it was this

961
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: moment of like, Okay, cool, I I there's a team

962
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: out there that I'm that I'm part of. It's not

963
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: just mo yelling yelling over dead carcasses, being like small

964
00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: for the camera. Um, but yeah, man, I just in

965
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: general that I I don't think that I would ever

966
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: have met more people that I would never more people

967
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: from different backgrounds, from different political leanings. I probably it's

968
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: probably affected the way that I think about a lot

969
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: of politics. Uh, you know, than I ever did. It's

970
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: it's affective the way you think about politics. Absolutely, absolutely, Um,

971
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: beyond the obvious. Uh yeah, yeah, I think so. I

972
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: mean exposure to other people. I mean, look, dude, we go.

973
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: When I say the obvious, I mean, like the obviously

974
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: are like political subjects or political issues that are directly

975
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: related to hunting. Um, yes, more than that, but but yes,

976
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's start there. Though. I mean, I

977
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people that see, you know,

978
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: a school shooting, and they're like, no one should have guns.

979
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, guys, it's it's it's it's different, it's

980
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: a little more complicated. That's no, there's no fucking reason

981
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: any you know, I live in Hollywood. Yeah yeah, so

982
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: it's like there's no reason for you lived in Brooklyn.

983
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: So it's like the same ship. I mean, it's just

984
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: it's it's weird how how you just realize how ignorant

985
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: people are to the other side in general, and both ways,

986
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: absolutely both ways. And I think that it's funny because

987
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: I end up getting into a lot of these conversations

988
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: because people assume, oh, Jew from New York, he's gonna,

989
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's going to have a certain way of thinking,

990
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: and uh, in a way I have to. There's a

991
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: lot of educating that needs to be done, especially in

992
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: l A like with environmentalists and stuff. When they're like,

993
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: how dare how could you kill? I'm like, more money

994
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: goes to you know, my my hunting license pays for

995
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: more you know, environmental preservation than then your little fucking

996
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: clipboard that you're collecting names outside the whole foods? Does

997
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: uh have you found have you found that that's effectively? No? Absolutely,

998
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: I think I think I like to see what you mean. Bro,

999
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: you're totally right. Uh, does being um your vocal about

1000
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: hunting here? You know, I haven't been. I haven't been

1001
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: very I've never like posted any pictures any hunting pictures.

1002
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: You're talking about it right now, this is this is

1003
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: me coming out at the closet right now. That's my

1004
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: big coming out party. So you're active on social media? Yeah,

1005
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: if you don't put anything about hunting or deer or

1006
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: anything on social media? Rarely I I did some It's

1007
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: funny we. Uh. I got a deer this year and

1008
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to do I wanted to cook up a

1009
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: bunch of the organs. So I did a video of that.

1010
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: But it was just like from the kitchen, like cooking,

1011
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: cooking up the organs. It's funny. I fucking I messed

1012
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: up one of your recipes. I most have read it wrong.

1013
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: I was no, because I I took the balls off.

1014
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: So here's the funny thing. I killed this deer this year.

1015
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: And it's me Mo and Dean with anyone besides no,

1016
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: absolutely not. It's me Mo and Dean the state trooper.

1017
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: It's the three of us, okay, and which is it's

1018
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: like the holy trendy. It's like a Muslim of jew

1019
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: and a Christian walk into you know, public lands and uh,

1020
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: you know they're both very like, yeah we did. And

1021
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, guys, I need the balls off

1022
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: of this off of this deer. And they're like what what.

1023
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're gonna eat the balls. And I've already

1024
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: introduced Dean and a bunch of his like red nicky

1025
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: friends to parts of the deer that they would never eat,

1026
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: like heart, and you know which, they fucking love heart.

1027
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: How heart is so easy to love by the way,

1028
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: I think it's the most unsung hero of the you know,

1029
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: of the or of the deer organs. It's delicious and

1030
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: they know, I mean they you know, they don't like

1031
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: it's delicious, And I think I the organs for me

1032
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: are like my favorite part. I want, you know, the

1033
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: organ's gotta eat him quickly. But once I was leaving

1034
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: mos and going to New York City and I took

1035
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: the heart and the liver and put them in you know,

1036
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: like a little styrofoamp thing, and brought them to the

1037
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: t S say, went through security, and like did they

1038
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: take a look? Yeah, they take a look heart and

1039
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: or it looks like a human heart. Like it's not

1040
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: hurry out, man, I gotta go. I gotta get this

1041
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: to exactly. This is not long after nine eleven and

1042
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: there's an Iranian guy coming in with like human organs

1043
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: and like, ammo on him. Oh man oh. And I

1044
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: got busted once at JFK with my shotgun because I

1045
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: didn't know they're not allowed to have to bring long

1046
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: guns to I thought, I you license. I didn't know

1047
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: you had a license to bring a long gun to. Yeah.

1048
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: Through JFK. Whe Where were you storing the gun? I

1049
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: was gonna so Mo where I've got some questions from Moe.

1050
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: Was gonna listen. He's gonna be like, No, Mo, Mo

1051
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: God bless mo birthday present, buys me a shotgun, a

1052
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: beautiful but Nelly Monta feltro, and uh, I'm taking this

1053
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: thing to Long I was like, I'll bring it to

1054
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: my parents house in Long Island and then I'll go

1055
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: in the city. But I land in JFK and they're like,

1056
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: what is this. I'm like, it's my shotgun. Like you

1057
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: can't have schocolate, I'm like and I'm like on high

1058
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: and money. I'm like, actually, you're allowed to have long guns.

1059
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: You don't need a license for a long gun. And

1060
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: they're like, uh, in fucking New York City, you do.

1061
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh no. And they bring these two

1062
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: cops over and they're like, what the fun is going

1063
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: on here? I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't know that

1064
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: you need a license. And you know, I look the

1065
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: way I look. I look, you know, like a fucking

1066
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: Woody Allen character, Like what are you doing with the

1067
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: fucking shotgun? I'm like I'm a hunter, Like what are

1068
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: you like the latest, like an old Jewish lady working

1069
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: a delta. She's like, what are you doing this for?

1070
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: What's the point? So now I have to like go

1071
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: through the ethics of hunting with the fucking two Italian

1072
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: cops and the old Jewish lady at delta. Oh, it's hilarious,

1073
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing they remember hearing about. Um. They're being

1074
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: like legal challenges to that because a lot of people

1075
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: it's very common for people to accidentally. You have some

1076
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: guy lives in Pennsylvania, right, yeah, and he buys a

1077
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: plane ticket out of JFK, connecting his whole damn life.

1078
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: He's like drove to the airport and went off to

1079
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: hunt deer at his uncle's house. And he shows up

1080
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: the JFK just like another day at the office, and

1081
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Yeah, they send it to a

1082
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: very very common problem. Is it really? It's wild, man,

1083
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: like I said, because it just would never a lot

1084
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: of people would like never occurred to him that that

1085
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: would be the case. And then it's not standardized. It's

1086
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: like there's three airports it's like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Newark,

1087
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: JFK and LaGuardia. It's tough traveling with a gun in

1088
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: New York City. Um, are you worried about hunting screwing

1089
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: you over? Man? Like being in you know, in the

1090
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: in show business and everything, like the people will find

1091
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: out that you're a hunter and in the work will

1092
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: dry up. I don't, I don't know, man, I think

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: that I don't think so. I think that, you know,

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01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: God bless Joe Rogan in some ways, because I think

1095
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: he opened it up a little and made it a

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01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: little more acceptable. And I think that also since I've

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: kind of had this like uh, this food career come

1098
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: out of you know, come out of nowhere, I think

1099
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: I get a little bit more of a pass. But

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I definitely have some people who don't want

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01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: to come to my house anymore because they know that

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: I have guns there, you know. And then I have

1103
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: to bring out the stats like well the house with

1104
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: the swimming pools actually more data, and I'm like a

1105
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: fucking you know, spinning off like NR A talking points um.

1106
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: But it's uh, it's weird, man. I get it though,

1107
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: because I used to be that. I used to be

1108
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: these guys like anytime I hear someone had a gun,

1109
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a different human being

1110
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: from the type that I would like to interact with.

1111
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: What did your parents think about your whole transformation? Uh?

1112
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: Not thrilled? Not thrilled. Um. Have they eaten any of anything? No? No, no, no, no,

1113
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They're also like they're still kosher, so they

1114
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: would know, but they just think it's they just can't understand,

1115
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Like they just can't believe it. A little boy, we

1116
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: didn't escape. How many for this to happen to him?

1117
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: Do they are? They like like IROLLI half joke and irolly,

1118
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: or they like legitimately pissed. They're not legitimately pissed, but

1119
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: they're like, we don't want to hear about this. Just

1120
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: leave that part of your life to yourself. What's their association?

1121
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean in their mind? What's what's they're like? I

1122
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: think they freak out every time that they can imagine

1123
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: me going out with a gun. What do they think about? Mo? Mo?

1124
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: It's funny, mo? And is The funny part is that

1125
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: most probably is the first Muslim friend that has ever entered,

1126
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, our family. I'm the first Jewish friend. Yeah,

1127
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: And I'm the first Jewish guy who's entered his family.

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01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: His parents are my parents and my parents are like

1129
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: his parents, Like there's such a love between our families.

1130
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: And oh, you mean so they like each other. Oh,

1131
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: my parents are like friends with most parents. Like I

1132
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: tell you mean that they're I think they're very similar. Um, no,

1133
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: they're they're very Uh well they're both. There are similar

1134
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: in that they're they're all Middle Eastern. But you know,

1135
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: there's the Jewish Muslim divide, which you don't find old school,

1136
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, Iranian Jews friends with any Muslims, any any

1137
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: Arab Muslims. You just don't. And you don't find many

1138
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Arab Mulis Muslims who are friends with Iranian Jews. Uh.

1139
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: And it's uh, you know, from the old school. I

1140
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: think second generation it does so. But I'm you know,

1141
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: I hate to get all like you know, uh, you know,

1142
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: kumbaya about it, but I seriously think that in a

1143
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: in a big way, hunting kind of brought us us together,

1144
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: was like such a common ground that that made us

1145
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: into best friends. That there's something about a hunting buddy. Man.

1146
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: It's like you've you know, I'm not going to exaggerate

1147
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: and say you've been to war together, but man, we've

1148
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: done some fucked up ship that I've never done with

1149
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, other people like gutting a deer in the

1150
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: dark and while you're freezing, and it's an accelerated courtship. Absolutely.

1151
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple of questions about um,

1152
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: show business and career in sort of the way. Yeah,

1153
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: personal life comes into it. You look at someone you mentioned,

1154
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. Yeah, but uh, he's I don't want to

1155
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: say he's untouchable, but everything he's done is organically built.

1156
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: But he doesn't he doesn't need um. The normal gatekeepers

1157
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: don't apply absolutely right, Like you look and be like who,

1158
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: Like if someone's mad at him or someone's displeased with

1159
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: something he's done, what do They can't stop him from

1160
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: publishing his podcast. The UFC isn't gonna mess with him.

1161
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: He's still gonna be a great stand up like he's

1162
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: and it's not accidental. He just got himself. He's like

1163
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: created a position for himself where it's like, come on,

1164
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: come on, I don't give a ship like I'm doing

1165
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: my thing. Um. People you know, like like like Chris Pratt,

1166
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: like pretty outspoken hunter. Yeah, someone outspoken Hunter, but he

1167
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: is like he depends on studios wanting to engage with him. Um,

1168
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: So when I asked you like about that, do you

1169
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: are you fearful, like, like in a serious way. Do

1170
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: you ever think like or is it just sort of

1171
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: a very uh Middle America perspective that Hollywood would blacklist

1172
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: the hunting guy or is that is that ridiculous? I

1173
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: don't think that. Look, if I walked into work with

1174
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: a MAGA hat, that would probably happen. Fact, you know

1175
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. Hunt Absolutely, I think you can get

1176
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: away with you can get away with hunting. Um, if

1177
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: you're cooking, if you're a chef, think I think, but

1178
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's as it is stigmatized. But

1179
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think it's enough of a to

1180
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: be a deal breaker. And also, to tell you the truth,

1181
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: now that I'm on this new show that's a NASCAR

1182
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: show that has a Nascar audience, I have a feeling

1183
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: That's why I think I'm a little uh, you know,

1184
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: more willing to come out of the closet about it.

1185
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, not a judgment, No, not at all.

1186
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure it's gonna be a big hunting

1187
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: crowd that watches that show. Um, what's your role in

1188
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: the show. So it's about a NASCAR pit crew, Like,

1189
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: who who are you? And I'm gonna I'm getting to it.

1190
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: I am the chief engineer of the pit crew. Are

1191
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: like a nerd? Yeah, it's my favorite. I get to

1192
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: play a nerdy, a nerdy like socially awkward chief engineer.

1193
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: It's like, it's the best. Did you have to learn

1194
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: a lot of terminology? You know? Look, I went to Hopkins,

1195
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: I was premd. I you know, I it's not it's

1196
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: not that out of my wheelhouse. You can do a

1197
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: little tech talk when you can do a little tech talk.

1198
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: If I need to do some tech talk, I could

1199
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: do some titilating tech tech talks. See that. I listened

1200
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: to your podcast, Bro, I knew that was one of

1201
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: the words. You're you know a word we don't use.

1202
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: What's that alliteration? Really? Which is titilating? Alliteration is a

1203
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: good one. You're here has use that word? Un No,

1204
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: I like it. Um, So, how did you become so

1205
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: so well read and all that stuff is it's just

1206
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: just yourself just being like I feel like I'm just

1207
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: going to fucking learn everything I can learn. Well, I

1208
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: did a lot of I got to do a lot

1209
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: of reading. UM. I appreciate you just asked me a question.

1210
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm not too crazy about it. I'll tell

1211
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: you the answer. No, because I went to when I

1212
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: went to graduate school, it's supposed to be two year program,

1213
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: but took me three years to get through. And you

1214
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: already even if you do it two years, it's like

1215
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: basically just go there and read. It's like writing. It's

1216
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: a writing program, but you just read, um, and you

1217
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: get to read a lot, and you're around people who

1218
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: are exciting about reading. And I had always read a

1219
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: lot and and had good, you know, like like somewhat

1220
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: good retention about it. But um, it was in that

1221
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: culture of uh you know, just like several years of

1222
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: like very intensive reading. Um. And I think I learned

1223
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: things from that because I remember, like leaving to go

1224
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: to graduate school, I realized I had never read, I

1225
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: never read anything approaching literature. And I remember dedicating a

1226
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: summer to trying to get through James Joyce's Doublin Nurse

1227
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: because I sure as hell was going to read, Uh

1228
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: what's this? Yeah? Yeah, I was like, oh, so he's

1229
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: got a little short book. He couldn't get through it

1230
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: because I was like, all I've ever read was like

1231
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: just stuff about nature, like nature stuff, history, mountain man

1232
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: history stuff, Davy Crockett stuff. I just read all that

1233
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: books about how to trap um and I remember thinking, like, man,

1234
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: I got a bone up, and so I really like

1235
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: tried very hard to get my way through Dubliners to

1236
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: prepare for like a life of literature. Okay, yeah, but

1237
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. I've friends who have gone

1238
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: to grad school and they don't become like what like

1239
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: how you've become. And it's interesting. Reading your book was

1240
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: very interesting to me because I was like, Okay, I'm

1241
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: gonna read that his dad was a professor or something,

1242
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: and like this was just something that like, you know,

1243
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: even though they grew up around the woods, like you know,

1244
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: he was always and that wasn't the case. I mean,

1245
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you were like trying to be

1246
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: like a professional trapper. I was like, holy fuck man,

1247
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: this guy, he he you can most people can't just

1248
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: reinvent themselves as a fucking good writer. Well yeah, but

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, think about too. Um is in some

1250
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: ways this is true of me, And you're honest ambroty

1251
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: here in some ways right now. I mean it's like

1252
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: we effectively think about and talk about this stuff for

1253
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: a living, right, So that's you know, you're devoting a

1254
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 1: lot of time to it, like the subjects, you know,

1255
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: not so much for writing them down. But it's just

1256
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: you wind up kind of getting where I think you

1257
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: wind up getting where you You just you have the

1258
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: luxury of getting to immerse into something, um and really

1259
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: surround yourself, surround yourself with people who are equally immersed.

1260
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: And I did that and I got and I was

1261
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: able to do that for a while with when I

1262
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: went to school for writing, and then coming out of that,

1263
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: all my friends are writers and you're just like immersed

1264
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: and that kind of like gradually segued into you know,

1265
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: I always had that focus in the outdoors, but then

1266
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: why not becoming very immersed with people who think about

1267
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: hunting all the time and think about fishing and write

1268
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: about it and make their careers about it. And then

1269
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: it winds up just has this snow I feel it

1270
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: has this like snowballing effect. Right, You're just able to

1271
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: devote an enormous amount of time and attention to something yeah, absolutely, um,

1272
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 1: which I'm sure it is true, and many many other disciplines.

1273
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: We had the other day, we had the insect guy

1274
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: on right spend his whole career mess around insects, and

1275
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: you can get you can stray pretty far from his

1276
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: focus and ask some questions about bugs and he knows

1277
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And you're like, how in the

1278
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: world do you know? And they're like, oh, yeah, because

1279
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: he liked me, spent twenty years dealing with these sort

1280
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: of same sets of ideas. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I

1281
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: mean it's I have a buddy, um, Josh Healed. He's uh.

1282
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: He wrote the movie Hot Tup Time Machine, and he's

1283
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: one of the writers of Cobra Kai this show, and

1284
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: he he always says, I hate writing, but I love

1285
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: being done with writing. Yeah, that's a there's a that's

1286
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: a that's a there's many versions of that. Yeah, he

1287
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: didn't come up with that, didn't. You're on bad Um

1288
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: do you feel the same way? Oh? Absolutely. I think

1289
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: it's just like like, I hate I hate writing words,

1290
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: I hate writing. If there's nothing like being done with

1291
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: Do you know the writer Ian Fraser, I don't think

1292
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: he's a New Yorker writer. He wrote a book called

1293
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: Great Planes, History of the American Great Plane, phenomenal book.

1294
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: He was saying when he was young and he wanted

1295
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: to be a writer, like he always grew up reading

1296
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: The New Yorker, and he said, like when normal kids

1297
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 1: draw like monster trucks and whatever, he would draw like

1298
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: a person with a Martini glass. But he said, like

1299
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: he always imagined, Oh, current, I have my look at

1300
01:12:54,040 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: my shirt, shout out to check. He sie, you ever

1301
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: go to Austin? This is where you ought to eat?

1302
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you should hang out with Jesse Griffith's actually,

1303
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: who's Jesse? He's no Mo, He's no. He's a hunter

1304
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. He has a restaurant. He teaches a

1305
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: lot of people. You guys would actually, you guys would

1306
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: be like nuts on a dog. I bet you. I

1307
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: think you guys just love each other. Man, Um, yeah,

1308
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: I think I remember was he on here? Or yeah? Yeah,

1309
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: he's been on the show. You'd love that guy. Yeah,

1310
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: he seems interesting. You guys hit it off. He's got

1311
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: a good cook. But you know, for sure, what was

1312
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: that getting at though? Um? We were talking about writing,

1313
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: and then we were talking, Oh, girls can tell you

1314
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: a good writing quote. Yeah, Um, how's it go? It's

1315
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna paraphrase the writing quote, but it's uh

1316
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: some about like working on a book. It's like driving

1317
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: somewhere at night where you can only see as far

1318
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: as your headlights, but you just keep going and going

1319
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: and going and going, and eventually you get there. Yeah,

1320
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: and that's miserable. There's yeah and yeah without a GPS.

1321
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: Because I think it's like there's so much potential for

1322
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 1: wasting fucking hours and hours of hours, and the amount

1323
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: of stuff that you write and you just throw out

1324
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: is just like it's just wasted neurons. Well, I mean

1325
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: it's not wasted because you you have to get through

1326
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: that stuff to get to the good stuff. I work,

1327
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: um lately on a couple of projects. I've worked with

1328
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: Brody here as a writing partner, and Brodie's I mean

1329
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: it's fair to say you're aself taught writer. I mean yeah,

1330
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean I studied writing it an undergrad state. Yeah,

1331
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: not like it's near, nowhere near approaching what you did,

1332
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, a little bit enough. Um, he writes very

1333
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: like there's a there's not a writing quote. R J. Apple.

1334
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: I think no one or I can write better than

1335
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: anyone that can write faster than me, And I can

1336
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: write faster than anyone that can write better than me.

1337
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: That's good. That's Brody a little bit. Yeah, Brody's like

1338
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: just fast. Yeah, it doesn't have a lot of weight.

1339
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't like write whole pages and then be like yeah, wow,

1340
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: hey he plays right writing for keeps. Yeah, I don't

1341
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: like rewriting ship. Here's there's another quote that is actually

1342
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: not attributed to writing. It's attributed to Napoleon on you

1343
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: know how he won so many wars. But it's basically

1344
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: I think it was quantity as a quality unto itself.

1345
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: I gotta think about it. Oh yeah yeah, And I

1346
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 1: think with writing that is so important. You just have

1347
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: to fucking keep cranking stuff out right. Here's a writing

1348
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: quote from a teacher. Hey, spin off podcast writing quote

1349
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: from my tenth grade mentor. Yeah, um, if you're counting

1350
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: the words, you're right. We'd be like, how long does

1351
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: it need to be for the assignments? Yeah, if you're

1352
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: counting the words, you're right. You're not writing words you

1353
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: count I've later found out that's not necessarily true because

1354
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: being a magazine better they never really like hold you

1355
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: two word counts. Yeah, and then you are like, yeah,

1356
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: we should tell that teacher for those who can't teach.

1357
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 1: That's his quote on Sorry, Mr Eden, you're better just

1358
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 1: turn turned everything off, shut it down. My career is

1359
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: over after this podcast comes out. In my notes and things,

1360
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about why do I have down? Yeah,

1361
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: giving gourmet game to hardcore hunters who can't cook. I

1362
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: like that a sentence. That's not even a sentence, but said, no,

1363
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: that was you know, Dean. Dean is the state trooper.

1364
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: Him and his buddies, um can't cook. They can't cook

1365
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: at all. And they think that tell me the same.

1366
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: They're always like, dear, tastes horrible. I'm like, guys, it doesn't.

1367
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And I made them the last time.

1368
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: I took a bunch of ground deer and I made

1369
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: like um. I made like Persian sausages, Persian kebab out

1370
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: of them um, which is basically, you ground up the meat,

1371
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: you have to mix it like you grind, you grind,

1372
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: you grind, you grind the meat. You want a seventy

1373
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: thirty fat to lean right. So I got a bunch

1374
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: of beef tallow mix that in and then you want

1375
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: to put a bunch of onions, ground grounded up onions

1376
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: in there, and then some spices, and then you cook

1377
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: it really low, so the onions caramelized within the kebab,

1378
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: and you skewer these meat balls. I just made them

1379
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: look you kind of make them look like little like

1380
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: long fingers, like a sausage on a stick. It's yeah.

1381
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: And then you put no casing and then you know,

1382
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: you put some tumeric in it, you put some sumac

1383
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: on it, you know. Uh, And these guys never had

1384
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: to bush. I've had more of that than you can

1385
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: you will ever have your horrile life. But I don't

1386
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: know what that is. I know, like sumac, you know,

1387
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: poison suma? Actually, yeah, so there's a berry and you

1388
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: dry it out and then you turn into a powder. Yeah,

1389
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 1: and it's used as um. It's used aes like if

1390
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: you go to like Persian households, it's like salt pepper sumac.

1391
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: I got some at home. I'll bring it for you tomorrow. Yeah,

1392
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: I would appreciate that. But now, are you sure that

1393
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: it's the same poison sumac that litters American roadways in

1394
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: the Midwest. I don't know. Actually, I don't think it's

1395
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: poison sumac. I think it's I think it's just as

1396
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: it's just sumac. Is that is that? Am I? I

1397
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: think so many I'm guilty not, I mean, I know, like, yeah, yeah,

1398
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with our sumac. I've never heard of someone

1399
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: eating Have you ever collected and dried your own? No?

1400
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: I haven't. I do fennel pollen though, every spring. Yeah

1401
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: that's awesome. So it's expensive. Yeah, do you do any

1402
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: of that? Do you do any of the foraging? The

1403
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: foraging for I'd forage for the real standards like like

1404
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 1: what like I like Morrel's oyster, mushrooms, bleats, ramps, ramps,

1405
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, I like you know, blackberries, you know, like

1406
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: the Yeah. I tend to focus on the stuff that's

1407
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: just good, like really good. Um, you're excited to have it.

1408
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: Not laborious now that I have a problem with it.

1409
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: If I didn't, if I wasn't into hunting and fishing,

1410
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: I'd probably be a whole hog into that and I

1411
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: would be making acorn flour and but um. I tend

1412
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: to focus on the bountius exceptionally good things that if

1413
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: you were in a story, you'd be almost tempted to

1414
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: buy them kind of items and easy to spot with mushrooms.

1415
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: I think anytime you're like is this poisonous or not,

1416
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: you should just not. Yeah, my brother is fairly good.

1417
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: He's pretty good mushroom guy. Um so I've kind of,

1418
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, leeched off him a little bit. I went

1419
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: last year for the first time, I joined the l

1420
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: A Mycological Systems and be married. Now I have a girlfriend.

1421
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: Did you meet here that after you heard that I

1422
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: do the LAEL Are you gonna die alone? Bro? No?

1423
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: Not at the l A picture a shrewd. I could

1424
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: picture a shrewd single person joining that society with motives

1425
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: other than mushrooms, just to be like, I wonder if no,

1426
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: my girlfriend is a she's an actress in l A.

1427
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: She's an l A actress. Well she eat, dear me,

1428
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: she will. I mean, she grew up in Kentucky, so

1429
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: she's a hillbilly. She's a little hillbilly. She's got some

1430
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 1: of that in her. Um So she's like, she's totally

1431
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: fine with the hunting. She's fine with yeah, which is cool, man,

1432
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: because that's hard to find in in a lady in

1433
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: l A's thing. About her. Mo loves her Man Mo

1434
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: is a surgeon now in Upstate, New York, and he

1435
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 1: takes all of his fucking money and just goes on

1436
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: these sheep hunts that are like fifteen thousand bucks. He's

1437
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: an international sheep. Yeah, he's trying to get that thing.

1438
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: What's it called the Grand Slam. I mean, I'm a turkey,

1439
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: your turkey Grand Slam Slam, Super Slam, Super Slam. It's

1440
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: better than Grand whoa dude, if you were single, that

1441
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: would that that fun factor get you laid so hard.

1442
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: We had a guy sending a picture of a tattoo

1443
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: or he had the country like he had like America

1444
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 1: tattooed on his arm, and he had little Turkey tracks

1445
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: tattooed where he fulfilled his super Slam okay, and then

1446
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: he had the different feathers tattooed on his arm, and um,

1447
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 1: I like, you know you, as Julian, appreciate this. I'm untattooed, okay.

1448
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: And I thought about and I thought about, I half

1449
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: jokingly half seriously thought about getting something similar. Didn't do it.

1450
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: The sheep Grand Slam thing. One of the sheep he said,

1451
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: there's like a world Yanna used it he's used you

1452
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: pretty good about this. Tell everybody, Johnie what Yeah, well

1453
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: there's a North American yeah, which is just four, which

1454
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: is the fourth sheep that you can kill here. But

1455
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: he might be going all over there, he's going all

1456
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: over He was just in like, uh of, what's it called,

1457
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: right next to Italy, northeast of Italy the Mediterranean. Yeah, Spain, No, Croatia, Croatia.

1458
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 1: He was in Croatia to do this. He went to

1459
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: the Alps and then he went to Alaska. I think

1460
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: he's doing one in Texas. I don't know what your

1461
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: body's off to you, but it doesn't have anything to

1462
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: do with Texas. Hold on, here's the Texas one. And

1463
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 1: this is one not to ask you about because this

1464
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: seems ill not legit to me. Texas. One of these

1465
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: sheep is like a like it's like an Armenian sheep

1466
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: or some ship, and it's like in Iran. And because

1467
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: it's hard, you can't go to Iran to hunt or

1468
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: it'll it'll, you know, it's hard. Some dude in Texas

1469
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: apparently has these sheep and it's still counts with the

1470
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: for the Grand Slam, Like apparently it still counts for

1471
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: the grants, probably through Safari Club. It does. Yeah, Oh

1472
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: your sellout bro doesn't count. No, I'm not down on mo.

1473
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: I like mo better not like you. Mo is Mo

1474
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: is so jealous that I'm here right now. He's like,

1475
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: you don't even know anything about hunting. You don't even

1476
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: know what it's three six is man. Well, it's not

1477
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: like we're like, give us your tin hunting tips. Dude.

1478
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: That by the way, you know what, since Steve asked,

1479
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: come on, give us your top three hunt top three

1480
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: hunting tips. Oh please, I'm not even joking. Are you serious?

1481
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: I would love to hear it. It's a good idea.

1482
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: Top three hunting tips. Okay, here's a fun one. Clear

1483
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: the leaves out of the tree stand before you get

1484
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: in there, because they'll just rustle the russell the whole time. Um,

1485
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: that's not that's Dan's hot. To take your scope cover off.

1486
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: The scope cover off is number one. Um, and I

1487
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: would say this isn't really a hot hot tip, but

1488
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: use those organs. I made a pete once out of

1489
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: the Heart and the liver bro. It was so delicious,

1490
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: it was crazy delicious. The technical chef, I mean pretty

1491
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: dabble dabble. Yeah, um. And also I would say this

1492
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: don't be so this is five insertion, here's going there's

1493
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: no limit. Here's my pet peeves, here's my pet peeve.

1494
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: Were moving on from tips and the pet peeves. Yeah,

1495
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna turn into a tip because Okay, whenever, whenever,

1496
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,959
Speaker 1: there's no point in life that I get more anxiety

1497
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: than and I have to walk into like a gun store,

1498
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: like a hunting store, or like a shooting just because

1499
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't have any idea what's in here.

1500
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 1: I just feel like they love to make you feel stupid,

1501
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 1: Like if you say the wrong if you referred to

1502
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: the to the shell as a bullet or a bullet

1503
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: as a shell, They're like, you don't even know what

1504
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: the terminology is. I'm like, there's like a all like

1505
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Napoleon dynamite kinda, And I fucking hate it. And I'm like, yo,

1506
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get people to, you know, be

1507
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: on your side about hunting or guns or whatever, be nicer,

1508
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Be nicer to people who don't know about them, and

1509
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 1: don't assume that everyone knows what the thirty odd six is.

1510
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's I hate it. Walking into the

1511
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: Apple store. Yeah. Well, but they're nice to you there.

1512
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: They're nice. They're wearing their shirts like yeah. But listen next,

1513
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: when when I go into these gun stores and they

1514
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: give me I'm not like rubbing into their face that

1515
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: I know organic chemistry and they don't. I'm not like,

1516
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: what h four messing you idiot? You don't know anything.

1517
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: But that's the vibe I get at those places. Man,

1518
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: so hot tip, be nicer to non gun people. Can

1519
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: I give you a hot too? Oh God, it's about

1520
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: walking into gun store please. Okay, I have found I've

1521
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: talked about this before. I've found a strategy in life

1522
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: of dealing. Um, it's a start conversations like that with

1523
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm just a total dumbass, right. Yeah. And I think

1524
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: when I used when I talked about this before, the

1525
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: context was having a plumber come over having a problem

1526
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: with I couldn't figure something out, and the plumber comes over,

1527
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: and instead of being in a swinging dick contest okay,

1528
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: instead of being like, well I almost got it licked,

1529
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: you know, but whoever plumb this thing? Right? Instead of

1530
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: doing that, I think the solderings off. Yeah, I'm like,

1531
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I'm just a total dumbass. I

1532
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: try to take it apart. I don't know what I'm

1533
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: looking at you. Oh buddy, let's take a look. It's

1534
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: just everything. And if you come in, if you go

1535
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: into your local gun store and you say, just starting out,

1536
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: total dumbass. Um. I've been out a few times. I

1537
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: left my concealed carry at home. But you know, what

1538
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: can you tell me? Now? Man? I walk into see

1539
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: how walking, dick swinging? I call everyone, chief, where you

1540
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: keep the good stuff? Chief? Hey? Doing? No? I think

1541
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: you should try that in your local guns. Yeah, yeah,

1542
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: I think then they will take more of a paternal view.

1543
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: I do find that gun stores in UH cities are

1544
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: usually I don't know, they're even meaner than like gun

1545
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: stories like the one in Olan that we have You

1546
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: ever been in John Javino's gun shop. That's the meanest

1547
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: gun store in the world. It's like, there's a gun

1548
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: store in Manhattan. It's in Manhattan. No, but the one

1549
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: in at least the police use it to buy, like

1550
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: buy their weapons. You can do ffl ffl transfers. You

1551
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: want to talk about players who are very mean? Do

1552
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: you like very annoyed that you're in there? I hate it.

1553
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: Like that's different because that's like I feel like it's

1554
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: like it's like law enforcement v. Civilian. Yeah, it's not

1555
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: like you know, but even then the law enforcement in

1556
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, Olean or you know Upstate New York is

1557
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: totally for their civilians having guns, like they're fine. Well,

1558
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't mean in that way. I just mean that

1559
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: like pross like professionally trained, you know, and these are services,

1560
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, they're dealing mostly in service weapons. And then

1561
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: you come in and you're like your elm or fund

1562
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: right right right right. It's just it's just it's not cute.

1563
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: They don't think it's cute. Yeah, oh man, it's yeah.

1564
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: It's not like you shouldn't be allowed to if anything is.

1565
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,520
Speaker 1: It's the opposite of that. But it's just it's condescending.

1566
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. But try that approach

1567
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: and going stories and also, um, do you don't do

1568
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: you live in a place where you can sort of

1569
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: develop a relationship with some people at your going you know,

1570
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't. Here's the thing. I don't go shooting that

1571
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: much that I need that. I don't think like I

1572
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: have a I do have a I have a handgun

1573
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: at home for personal for you know, But I got

1574
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: a revolver just because I didn't want to have to

1575
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: keep going to the range to exercise the spring on

1576
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: a on a semi automatic. Wow, you know your stuff

1577
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: of man, this is why he winds up in the showdown.

1578
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: When I lived in Seattle, there was there was I

1579
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: did most of my sport, like most of my sporting

1580
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: goods purchases and my firearms transactions from a place called

1581
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Outdoor Emporium. And there was a guy there, Brian, that

1582
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: I liked a lot, and I would come in and

1583
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: like be like, where's Brian? And I would text Brian

1584
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: to be like are you at work? Brian's looking at

1585
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: his phone, rolling his eyes like like are you down there?

1586
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: He's like I'm here, Like I gotta come down, and

1587
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: I'll come down. I was like, deal with a guy,

1588
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Deal with Brian. I liked. I liked, get it, I

1589
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: get it. They're very actually they're very nice to me.

1590
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: At Whitetail, which is the store in Oleen, which is

1591
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: the one that mogoes to because he's the mayor of Oleen.

1592
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: So I'd walk in there even without him because he'd

1593
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, I'm friends with Dr Alhumi And it's

1594
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: hilarious because it's like it's this like super red necky

1595
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: guns though, and they're like, oh, you know Dr l

1596
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: Maddie Carpet exactly. You mentioned the Arab guy's name, and

1597
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: they're like, Dr Who Maddie did my nee scope? Like

1598
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: they all know, and then they're probably like I thought

1599
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: there was something about you and him, but yeah, never mind. Yeah, man, hey,

1600
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: you never know. I'd be open minded. I want to

1601
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: ask you the last question. It was something that that

1602
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 1: you had mentioned to talk about maybe didn't um gun safety?

1603
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Gun safety? Yeah, so this was are you paranoid? You know,

1604
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm very paranoid now any accidental discharges? It was a

1605
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: part of one UM and it was you're not gonna

1606
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: believe it was with I was with Mo and uh,

1607
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, I always would give him ship for like

1608
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's always like make sure that everything is

1609
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: out of the chamber and like me all you know,

1610
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: he does he really sound like that? No, not at all.

1611
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: He's very educated guy, and he's you know, just like

1612
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: always pointing in the right direction and it's not which

1613
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: is obviously totally normal. But then when I'm like trying

1614
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 1: to load load my gun. He like he didn't have

1615
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: faith in me, you know, so he was trying. He's

1616
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: he micromanaged the situation. So he had We were going

1617
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: turkey hunting, which I've never I've never gotten a turkey.

1618
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: I've gone a couple of times that in his same

1619
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: little yeah yeah um. But honestly, when we go, it's

1620
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: like ramp season. So the first light comes out and like,

1621
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: I see the ramps and I lose my sh um.

1622
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think his hands were on on

1623
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: the shotgun. My hands were on it, and boom it

1624
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: went off. I don't understand you're both handling the same yep,

1625
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: because he's instructing uns on something. Yeah, and I think

1626
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I got it. And it was

1627
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of pulling and pushing and boom it

1628
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: went off. And he's like, here's how to do this

1629
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: safely and you're like, no, it's not it, No you don't.

1630
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: So it's like a combination of me, uh not my

1631
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 1: ego and then his distrust of me, you know, together

1632
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: and it was it went off. I mean we were

1633
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: in between. You know, it's shot in front of us.

1634
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: But scary, very scary. Oh, I've been witness too. I mean,

1635
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: in all honesty, I've probably been witnessed in a lifetime

1636
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:19,879
Speaker 1: of of gunplay. I've probably been witnessed to in excess

1637
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: of a dozen counting being kids. Dude, we're kids. That's

1638
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 1: why I like muzzle control. It's like, if you know,

1639
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: we're remember walking up my mom like the steps from

1640
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: my mom and dad's house to the garage and my

1641
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: buddy Brian burrowing in a twenty two shells next to

1642
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: my knee into the grass when we're high schoolers. But

1643
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: I mean, thankfully that even though people didn't have good

1644
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: trigger control, they had good muscle control. And I've never

1645
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: I've never been I've never seen I know, you've seen

1646
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: any seen anything that I would even call a holes call. Yeah,

1647
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: which is it's like a two tiered thing. It's like

1648
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: it shouldn't go off, but then there's sort of if

1649
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: it does, what are you doing? When I review the

1650
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: times I've seen accidental discharge, I look and I'm like,

1651
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the system, you know, I'm

1652
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: reluctant to say the system worked, but the system worked,

1653
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: and that people were conscious of what they were where

1654
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: the muzzle was. Yeah, I mean what they're doing. All

1655
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: you need to do is combine those two slip ups.

1656
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: So you combine the muzzle control, you make that mistake

1657
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: and then the handling mistake. And it's when those two things,

1658
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: like in those split seconds and those two things line up,

1659
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: is when you have trouble. But I can spend days.

1660
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: I might spend days out hunting with a couple of

1661
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: friends and reviewing it my mind, if they're seasoned people

1662
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: reviewing my mind. There was never a moment when had

1663
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: a gun had sort of like God made a gun

1664
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 1: go off. There's never a moment when it would have

1665
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: struck somebody because people are being very conscious about what

1666
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: they're doing and where they're pointing. Yeah, so it's like like,

1667
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, negligent discharge, accidental just you know in the

1668
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Marines are it's like this thing like there's no such

1669
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: thing as a negligent discharge or how's it going. No,

1670
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as an accidental discharge. It's always

1671
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: a negligent negligent discharge. So it's scary as hell. But

1672
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I do all think like you're like, that was close,

1673
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, but thankfully it wasn't closed because the

1674
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: other components of safety thankfully were in place. I'm in

1675
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: no way excusing that happening, but I've just seen it happen. Now,

1676
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: how many times have you seen to happen? Not that many,

1677
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: but not a dozen. No, I don't know handful. Yeah,

1678
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: I've seen you see it happen. That's right. Yeah, does

1679
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: that mean you did it? I think in the beginning,

1680
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: I think it was very hard for me to understand

1681
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: when there was a um a shell in the chain,

1682
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: like if you if you've cycled everything out and once

1683
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 1: like an idiot, I was like, I think I got

1684
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: them all and I pointed up to shoot the shotgun

1685
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: and boom, and I was like, oh no, I didn't.

1686
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: There was one in there. You know. MO lost his

1687
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: ship again, which he should have. But then after that

1688
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 1: I took a hunter safety. Of course, I was like,

1689
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: I need to learn to rain this ship in. I'll

1690
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 1: tell you hot to um what if this is for Mo?

1691
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: The next time you start out a person, MO, give

1692
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: him a break open gun. Oh like a yeah, my

1693
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: little boy he now has his own four ten. Yeah

1694
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: he's nine. I'm gonna pretend like I know what a

1695
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: four ten is. But yeah, so it's like the smallest shotgun. Okay,

1696
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: got it. So I'll let me tell you a couple

1697
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: of little tips tips here. You know gauge is right, yes, okay, yes, okay,

1698
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: twelve gauge. Yes, we've covered this extensively. I do, yes, yes,

1699
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I I keep learning and then I sort of forget.

1700
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: But I kind of know, Phil, you're asking for my

1701
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: if I know what a toll gauges. I just want

1702
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: someone to say no so I can tell, because I

1703
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 1: like telling you. Okay, tell it. No, no, No, I

1704
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: don't twelve gauge. You take that diameter, the barrel diameter,

1705
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: twelve lead spheres that size make up a pound. Twelve

1706
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: leads spheres that there is a twelve gage, twenty gauge.

1707
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: It takes ten lead spheres that size to make a pound.

1708
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: Four ten sorry, yeah, four ten is the only is

1709
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: a four ten is an exception to this to the

1710
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: gauge system. So it would be like, you know, just

1711
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: twenty eight not common, but there are twenty eight gauge,

1712
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: sixteen gauge, twelve gauge. When you buy shrimp from a

1713
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: grocery store, they measure it the same way too. Engages. Well,

1714
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: it's how many how many shrimp. Yeah, shrimp count so

1715
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: you know. Um yeah, great, smaller the number, the bigger

1716
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 1: the shrimp. There you go. Uh, A four ten is

1717
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: like point four one oh of an inch diameter shotgun.

1718
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Got it. Uh. If someone were to say to you,

1719
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a fifty gage shotgun and shoot you,

1720
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: that's a very small shotgun, right, that would be a

1721
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: baby gun. Um. We should get MO on the phone

1722
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 1: and ask him why he didn't give me that guy.

1723
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just just just a hot safety tip for listeners.

1724
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: I bought my nine year old a four ten that

1725
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: just breaks open. There's no like wondering what's going on.

1726
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: It's perfect. When he approaches people, I'm like, open that

1727
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: thing up. Click, it's open, Like anyone can see what's

1728
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: happening when you open it and look, there's no way

1729
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: to be confused about whether this thing's loaded not loaded?

1730
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: Is there still one in there? It just is a

1731
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: great way to start people out. Yeah, there's a button

1732
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: you hit and it hinges open and it's for the

1733
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: whole world to see what is happening inside that shotgun. Perfect. Yeah,

1734
01:37:55,560 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot. Even when I've get him like

1735
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: a little bolt action twenty two of the magazine. In it,

1736
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: I'm very paranoid about like what he's doing, and he,

1737
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:10,799
Speaker 1: you know, like he opens it clos I'm like, whoa, stop,

1738
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I need to look? Did

1739
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: he like inadvertently rack one. You know, it's funny. As

1740
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: someone who didn't grow up hunting, I'm a little like

1741
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: like kids and guns. It's still I think gives me

1742
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of it. Should Yeah, you know, I

1743
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: was just shooting with my oldest this weekend and it's

1744
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: nerve racking. Yeah, how does he she's nine? Sorry eighty? Yeah,

1745
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: I tell my kid, I say, like, very like explicitly,

1746
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell him like you can mess up with that

1747
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: and kill your brother. Yeah. Wow, you break it down

1748
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. I try to make it like like

1749
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: the gravity of what we're I don't want them to

1750
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: be any confusion about what we're talking about. Yeah, I

1751
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: mean that's you should good. It's like we don't how

1752
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: someone could get hurt five seven and nine, five seven

1753
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: and nine. Yeah, you just paint a picture high. You're

1754
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: just like you're gonna It's like it's not like as

1755
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: impactful as you might imagine. When I do say this

1756
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: but I do like to. He's just like, is that

1757
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 1: a bad thing? He's pretty annoying. Yeah, but now I've

1758
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 1: become a hunter safety Nazi. I'm like crazy about it.

1759
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, which is the way you should be.

1760
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have I'm glad to have you in

1761
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: the um brotherhood and sisterhood. Yeah, it's a good way

1762
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 1: to put that family. It's good to be in the family.

1763
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: And it's good to be in the family. Uh, and

1764
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: have a conversation with the with the guy that that

1765
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 1: you had had a big deal with me staying in.

1766
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: It's really great to have Mo in the family. Mo Is.

1767
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, fun Mo man, this is about most killing

1768
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: a fake sheep so he could get a fake title

1769
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 1: and you're just a hard Yeah. He's living it only

1770
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: and it's easy for him. I'm in West Hollywood, man,

1771
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm in the trenches. So run down, run down for folks, Like,

1772
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: what's what's the best way how do people go take

1773
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: you in? Yes, your Instagram is stand Up Dan, Stand

1774
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: Up Dan. Yeah, it's like no one can spell Dana dude.

1775
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: So I was like, I need to need to shore

1776
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: this up. So Instagram at stand up Dan twitters stand

1777
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: up Dan as well. Are you active on Twitter? Pretty active?

1778
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: You do you engage in like Twitter outrage about someone's tweet? No, dude,

1779
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: I stay out of that. That to me is more

1780
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: as a comedian. I'm like seeing like like comedians you know,

1781
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: don't host shows now because they wrote a tweet twenty

1782
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 1: years ago and they bring it back. I'm like, my

1783
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: Twitter is pretty anemic. Um, which again is a bummer

1784
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: that has to yeah, because you gotta control your impulse

1785
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: to make like it. You're like, how's that funny? I'll

1786
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: just put it up decades from now, I'll lose a job.

1787
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 1: Remember when Dance said that? Well again testament to why

1788
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Rogan has paved such a great, you know, path for

1789
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 1: himself because he doesn't it doesn't matter to him because

1790
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: he's self generated, so he doesn't Yeah, and he um,

1791
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: he gives all sides of everything a voice are also

1792
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: articulates all sides of everything in a way that makes

1793
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: everyone look like a jackass. And so it's just I

1794
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: love him because he's just like he's like so curious,

1795
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: He's so curious, But I think sometimes he can just

1796
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: be convinced of anything, Like I feel like a flat

1797
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: Arthur can come on there and he's like really, yeah, okay,

1798
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: I'll look into that to open mind a little bit.

1799
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: But but I think it's more it's probably just his

1800
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: style of interview, which it gets people comfortable to open up. Um.

1801
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: But yeah. And then my food podcast, my new it's

1802
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: the number one food podcast in America right now. It's

1803
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:03,440
Speaker 1: called Green Eggs and Dance and you can get anywhere

1804
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: you get podcasts. It's an hour long. Um. So if

1805
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: people like exhausted the library of this show, yeah, I

1806
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: had to head to Green Eggs and Dan check it out.

1807
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: I really like, had just listened, like honest to god,

1808
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: listen to every episode, they might go find Green Eggs

1809
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: and Dance. Yeah, and they find it anywhere all the

1810
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: you knows, all the place stuff and in your brand

1811
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: new spik any TV show. Oh yeah on Netflix parent network.

1812
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Netflix party Steve Um, when when

1813
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: will the air It's gonna be airing, Uh sometime in

1814
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: the fall. They wanted to like, uh correspond with NASCAR dates.

1815
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I saw that I saw my first NASCAR race ever

1816
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 1: last week and it was intense. There was like a

1817
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: crazy car cry, someone almost died. Yeah, but are you

1818
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: still filming. Yeah, we are. This is our hiatus week

1819
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, what are you doing in Heitus You're relaxing.

1820
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm going to Bozeman, Montana, baby, getting

1821
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: my Bozeman on um and uh yeah, but green Eggs.

1822
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: And but it's called the Crew, It's it's Kevin James

1823
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 1: is h is the lead of that one. So it's

1824
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a great show. It's very funny, and I

1825
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: think I think your listeners will love it. I'm gonna

1826
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: watch yeah, Uh are they? Just would they be happy

1827
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: that you're plugging the show? I think so. I'm telling you, man,

1828
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: it's Nascar. It's a NASCAR show. No, No, not our listeners,

1829
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean the people, you know whatever, the Netflix people. Yeah,

1830
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 1: is it good that you're out doing this. I think

1831
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: that you think that Hunters probably are more of a

1832
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: scarlet letter than they are. Oh no, I do not.

1833
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 1: What are you talking about entertain I don't mean that.

1834
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: What did you mean? Sorry that? Like, um, you know,

1835
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: there's always like bargoes and you can't talk about shows,

1836
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Oh, I don't know. You

1837
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: there's like a certain level of thing where it just

1838
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: gets all secret e we are said, people coming out

1839
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: here being all secret about stuff, and I'm like, why

1840
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 1: are the world's being secret about? No, I'm not, but

1841
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: I think I should probably be more secrety. Like I'm

1842
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: going skiing tomorrow, big guy, I probably shouldn't be doing

1843
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: that since we're filming. But you know how often am

1844
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: I going to be in Bozeman? Um? Do you got

1845
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: a friend up there? Now? I'm just going myself? Really yeah?

1846
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's great man out in the open. You're

1847
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna drive on up and go skiing? Hell yeah, true outdoors.

1848
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: I love you. You spend like weeks alone out in

1849
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:36,679
Speaker 1: the wood, the whole crew of No, I'm just surprised

1850
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: you don't have like O, I don't know, like acting

1851
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: body or something. Who's up there? No, most back in

1852
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: New York. Most back in New York couldn't make it.

1853
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 1: MO wanted to come so badly. Uh no more gonna

1854
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: make it now. I'm just gonna go by myself and

1855
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: then I have to go back. I'm I'm pitching a

1856
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: show to HBO on Friday and then back to New

1857
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: York on Saturday. That's great. Yeah, man, trying to try

1858
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: and get this how do people watch some of your

1859
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Speaker 1: stand up? Just google my name Danny Dude. You can

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Speaker 1: a H D O O T and weird. Fun fact,

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Speaker 1: if you have a kid who's somewhere between the ages

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Speaker 1: of ten and I'd say nineteen, I was on a

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Speaker 1: Disney show that they are obsessed with kicking it and

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Speaker 1: I played you were a child actor? No, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: a child, bro. This was like eight years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if any kids are listening, I'm the guy. No, it

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Speaker 1: was I played. It was a super racist role. I

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Speaker 1: played a character named Falafel Phil Oh is that right? Yeah? Yeah, yikes,

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Speaker 1: this is pretty because you're like, you're like an ethnic

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Speaker 1: looking dude. Yeah. I was like, hell, who wants school?

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Speaker 1: Have some fun? Off, let's go. It's sucked up, but

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Speaker 1: kids loved it, so people will find your act on

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Speaker 1: YouTube or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The Last Factory post a

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Speaker 1: lot of great stand up. What's the best thing? Um,

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Speaker 1: what's the best bit? Yeah? Like the factor in like

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Speaker 1: you know, tell us a joke, Okay, just tell us

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Speaker 1: the main tell us your best joke doing this? Bro?

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Speaker 1: What's up? But know, if someone wants to go look

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Speaker 1: at if they're like the one thing they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, I'm gonna check out something this guy did.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd probably enjoy my material about spin class

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Speaker 1: going to the gym. So if they type in Dan

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Speaker 1: spin class, yeah, they'll get a good taste. You'll get

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Speaker 1: a hoot from Danna. Dude, Hey, when people were dogging

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Speaker 1: the last question, when you were kidding, people were dogging

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Speaker 1: on you, what do they do with your last name,

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Speaker 1: Danna Douche there was I'm impervious. There's nothing you do, Ranella.

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Speaker 1: You can do like, hey, Ranella, he's our fella. There's

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Speaker 1: only nothing you can do. Oh Ranella, uh Smella, samon Ella.

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Speaker 1: Your gross like salmonella. That's good. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: I hung out with people that really knew about this.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to throw in a plug for

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Speaker 1: bajillion dollar properties again. Oh yeah, I think you can

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Speaker 1: watch the whole, the whole show on Pluto. I forgot

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Speaker 1: to plug Bajilan all the problem. Yeah, you can watch

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Speaker 1: the whole thing on Pluto or on Amazon. I was

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Speaker 1: I shaved my head. I shaved my head. I did

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Speaker 1: not get hair plugs. Everyone thinks I got plugs. I

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Speaker 1: just let this ship grow, man. So I could have

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Speaker 1: had here the whole time. But whole time, I swear

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Speaker 1: I graduated college, I thought I was going bald. I

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Speaker 1: started taking propitia and I was like, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: shave my head because I don't want to deal with

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, being the guy going bald. And

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Speaker 1: then I went through a breakup and I just like

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Speaker 1: turned into this is like four years ago. I went

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Speaker 1: through a breakup and I turned to like this mess.

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Speaker 1: Just didn't get my hair cut and started growing out,

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Speaker 1: and I came back thick, looks kind of good. Show

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Speaker 1: what you got going on, Brody? I got nothing going on.

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Speaker 1: Check this out, this one I'm looking forward to having. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, and I love it. Just get just

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Speaker 1: just you've got a firm head of hair. I feel like, no,

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Speaker 1: it gets thinner up top. Forty six. Just turn forty six.

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Speaker 1: If you're forty six, you got that hair, You're good

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Speaker 1: because it gets thinner up top. And when it happens,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look just like Brody. Yeah, Brodi looks good.

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Speaker 1: People look like apocalypse now. Yeah, some people don't look

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Speaker 1: good with a shaved head. Bro looks good. Yanni, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you only YI would look good with a

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Speaker 1: shaved head, because you have like his old man has

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Speaker 1: a bunch of hair. Yeah, you've got like a rectangular

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Speaker 1: you need like a round face for it. It shaved

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Speaker 1: all summer really yeah yeah, but like, but it alludes

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Speaker 1: to hair because it's not it's not like shiny. You've

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Speaker 1: got so much hair, I gotta cut it off, like

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Speaker 1: tell Yeah, no one knows the hell I got. That's

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Speaker 1: a horrible reference. Tell Us is a good bald references.

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Speaker 1: I think that's still works. Okay, I'll give that to

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Speaker 1: your Dana. Dude, spin class has to take away from

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Speaker 1: the whole episode. And if you're in Upstate New York

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Speaker 1: and you need to have your knee scope, you can

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Speaker 1: go to mow. Gotta go to Moth. Yeah. Dr Mohanned

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Speaker 1: al Humadi, you can look mom. Yeah. No need to

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Speaker 1: tell peopleut how to spell that. Just google Arab doctor

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Speaker 1: Upstate New York. Alright, man, thanks, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: having me. This has really been an honor.